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Title: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2017, 08:17:07 AM
Youtube cut the brakes slightly on revenue but in reality, due to Vegan Gains published anti-Muslim and criminal conduct, he's been stripped of what little money he was bringing in.  Even worse, his court cases and lawsuits against him, its making his situation even worse.   Now he's online begging for money and everyone he's ever attacked is going hard on him

Considering how crazy he is....when he's finally at the end of his rope, he'll likely assault and/or possibly murder his wife and go on an actual killing spree






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Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Zillotch on April 25, 2017, 08:23:37 AM
when he's finally at the end of his rope, he'll likely assault and/or possibly murder his wife and go on an actual killing spree

theres something to look forward to
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Tapeworm on April 25, 2017, 08:25:38 AM
I hope you get motivated to go fishing in Florida soon.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Twaddle on April 25, 2017, 08:26:15 AM
My guess is, he'll commit suicide soon.  Most likely he'll video it and/or live stream it.   :-\
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Mitch on April 25, 2017, 08:26:20 AM
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Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Twaddle on April 25, 2017, 08:29:27 AM
1:20

"Soooo, I'm going to have tooooo, find other streams of revenuuuuuuue."


I wonder if he's ever considered getting a fucking job.   ???
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Zillotch on April 25, 2017, 08:32:40 AM
My guess is, he'll commit suicide soon.  Most likely he'll video it and/or live stream it.   :-

shia labeouf or vegan gains... who will be first to cross the finish line in this race against reason?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2017, 08:34:07 AM
1:20

"Soooo, I'm going to have tooooo, find other streams of revenuuuuuuue."


I wonder if he's ever considered getting a fucking job.   ???


How...he dropped out of high school..
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Don_Dada on April 25, 2017, 08:38:12 AM
Vegan Gains video on the evils of Islam was legendary
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Twaddle on April 25, 2017, 08:40:21 AM

How...he dropped out of high school..

How many Mexicans work in this country without a high school education?    ???
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 25, 2017, 08:40:46 AM
Fuck this loser.

However people should be aware and concerned about the rampant censorship YT has been implementing recently.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: BB on April 25, 2017, 08:45:07 AM
Kid's still doing better than many of them. He's got close to $800 a month from Patreon, and I'm sure he'll be able to reformat his channel into something salvageable.

The big thing that I've heard from people that follow him is that he went high off the hog buying better podcasting equipment, and he's also covering all his wife's expenses.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Nails on April 25, 2017, 08:45:12 AM
Every channel i subscribe to has posted a boohooo video about the new youtube terms , something like before you would get a $1 for ever 1,000 view, now you get $1 for ever 100,000 views.

they are all crying saying now they cant live off that, and might have to shut down video production
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Zillotch on April 25, 2017, 08:45:29 AM
btw... this shitbag is one of the ugliest humans ever, and he may have the most annoying fucking voice on earth to go along with his fuked up face. how does anyone watch him?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Megalodon on April 25, 2017, 08:54:51 AM
VG was taking in about $65,000 a year and he's down to about $30 a day. Every channel has been affected by the boycott. Some more than others. His videos were on the restricted list WAY before the Muslim one. He can likely get back to his previous money level through Patreon or selling things but in a way he kind of shot himself in the foot by breaking into YT by criticizing everyone that was marketing anything with "Worst of the Fitness Industry" and so forth. He can survive this and make even more than what he was making but he'll have to market something. He has a big platform and relying on ad revenue alone was foolish.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: NelsonMuntz on April 25, 2017, 09:00:56 AM


Vince,

You titled this thread  Vegan Gains Is Broke -  basically saying t5hat you did not start a youtube channel because now these people are not making money, yet the previous five years some of these people you are claiming to be now broke because of the changes were making $1000's to hundreds of thousands $$ per month.

I like you Vince, but please stfu on this excuse why you did not start a channel, you just missed the boat period when people like myself have been saying to you forever to start a fucking channel. You were just too lazy or thought your other schemes were going to pay off instead and could not be bothered, so don't try to jump on this bandwagon now
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: a_pupil on April 25, 2017, 09:07:43 AM
even if vvv (fitness industry insider and getbig superstar) started a youtube channel now he'd still make more in a month than calibre fitness tm made in a year.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: polychronopolous on April 25, 2017, 09:12:39 AM
Goodrum had the foresight to know it would not last.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: muscleman-2017 on April 25, 2017, 09:23:15 AM
Youtube is trying to stop conservative or right wing political speech by starving the creators of revenue.  But the side effect is even left wingers are getting hit.

I hope youtube dies and a new avenue opens up.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Megalodon on April 25, 2017, 09:32:10 AM
Youtube is trying to stop conservative or right wing political speech by starving the creators of revenue.  But the side effect is even left wingers are getting hit.

I hope youtube dies and a new avenue opens up.

There already is GAB.AI (http://GAB.AI) , like Twitter, which has already has over 250,000 still on it's waiting list.  Sign up for that if you haven't.

There has to be competition for Google, FB and YT too. There are people that can make and fund it, they just have to do it. There has to be a push or desperation.

And people have to market things themselves, not just coffee mugs, because they'll always be slaves to advertisers otherwise.

The YT boycott is actually a great thing because it shows how advertisers can shut you down if that's your sole source of revenue.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Chacka on April 25, 2017, 09:32:32 AM
Vince, do you recommend I purchase the upcoming Galaxy Note?  ???
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: el numero uno on April 25, 2017, 09:33:44 AM
He's a degenerate piece of $hit.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Dreadlifter on April 25, 2017, 09:35:32 AM
What a whiny pussy. I've never seen any of his vids before. How cany anyone listen to that voice for longer than a few seconds?!

He'll survive. It's not like he has the expense of meat to deal with. He can go forage in the woods while he works it out.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on April 25, 2017, 09:35:54 AM
maybe this little shit stain should get a job like the rest of us.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: muscleman-2017 on April 25, 2017, 09:36:44 AM
There already is GAB.AI (http://GAB.AI) , like Twitter, which has already has over 250,000 still on it's waiting list.  Sign up for that if you haven't.

Yeah I heard of this on the alex jones show.

I just put in my application  :)
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Megalodon on April 25, 2017, 09:49:44 AM
Yeah I heard of this on the alex jones show.

I just put in my application  :)

Great. Yeah, Anthony Torba, the founder, was on AJ. They're raising money for GAB fast.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: MAXX on April 25, 2017, 09:52:36 AM
this clown is still fighting to be relevant on jewtube huh.

Jason Blaha is still at it too putting up 10x videos a day  trying to bring in lika a dollar a vid

clowns all the lot of them...
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: The Keto Kid on April 25, 2017, 10:01:42 AM
Relying on Youtube as your only income lol, what the fuck is this world coming to. On top of it asking for $4,000 a month in donations so he could live "comfortably".....saying if he can't raise the funds he will have to do online coaching?? Again how is this guy qualified to coach or provide dietary advice for money?? Whatever happened to starting a channel just to put out content for the sake of just helping people or just for entertainment purposes, or help market yourself.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Henda on April 25, 2017, 10:04:40 AM
Haha at vince citing vegan gains going broke as the reason he didn't start a youtube channel, vince is fucking broke before even starting the YouTube channel so does it really matter if it fail?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2017, 10:27:09 AM

Vince,

You titled this thread  Vegan Gains Is Broke -  basically saying t5hat you did not start a youtube channel because now these people are not making money, yet the previous five years some of these people you are claiming to be now broke because of the changes were making $1000's to hundreds of thousands $$ per month.

I like you Vince, but please stfu on this excuse why you did not start a channel, you just missed the boat period when people like myself have been saying to you forever to start a fucking channel. You were just too lazy or thought your other schemes were going to pay off instead and could not be bothered, so don't try to jump on this bandwagon now


Vegan Gains was making thousands of dollars a week....however the money went out just as fast from traveling to computer hardware to other stupid shit. 

I didn't start a channel because the income can be yanked away at anytime leaving no recourse....unlike my ecommerce sites that I run solely.  I control them and the revenue.  Not only that, I can say what I want to say on my site Anabolic Mayhem and don't have to worry about the Youtube police taking it down. 


Truthfully, his downfall was that he didn't have an education....otherwise, he would have managed his money better
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Nails on April 25, 2017, 10:33:58 AM
does this new policy have anything to do with youtube now wanting people to pay membership fees to stream/watch live local television channels of all the major networks?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 25, 2017, 10:39:48 AM
does this affect all the youtube assholes, say like rich piana, kali muscle,  bradley martyn?  will they be taking a youtube hit in income
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Nails on April 25, 2017, 10:46:04 AM
i remember Youtube once pulled Rich Piana's channel for his steroid talk? and he got so butt hurt and mad he went down to the Youtube offices to complain



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Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Slik on April 25, 2017, 10:52:32 AM
Frankenstein forehead of peace!
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: kh300 on April 25, 2017, 11:09:15 AM
YT is also cutting advertising on anything gun or knife relates. RIP hickok45
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Taffin on April 25, 2017, 11:59:46 AM
What a whiny pussy. I've never seen any of his vids before. How cany anyone listen to that voice for longer than a few seconds?!

He'll survive. It's not like he has the expense of meat to deal with. He can go forage in the woods while he works it out.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: WalterWhite on April 25, 2017, 12:07:24 PM
That annoying Christian Guzman dude has been spending like a drunken sailor so I really hope they don't cut his pay.

He might have to give up his range rover lease! :D
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: robcguns on April 25, 2017, 12:12:19 PM

How...he dropped out of high school..

The most well off guys I know didn't finish high school.The ones that did live their parents.finishing school has no bearing on making good money from my experiences.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Earl1972 on April 25, 2017, 12:18:22 PM
he's in financial trouble because of his freeloading foreign wife that just plays video games all day

E
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Simple Simon on April 25, 2017, 12:35:55 PM
he could become a PT, Esfitness does well at it.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 25, 2017, 12:57:55 PM

Why is this important?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Rudee on April 25, 2017, 01:07:11 PM
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What would you do if there was a child sitting in front of you, sitting all alone crying in pain from hunger, near death from sickness, and lack of YouTube revenue? Your generous gift of just 0.25 cents a day will provide lifesaving emergency care, nutrition and vaccines. As a new monthly donor you will receive regular updates on how your gifts are helping to save Vegan Gains life.  Please donate generously.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 25, 2017, 01:09:23 PM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XozrqJHA-yI/hqdefault.jpg)
What would you do if there was a child sitting in front of you, sitting all alone crying in pain from hunger, near death from sickness?
Your generous gift of just 0.25 cents a day will provide lifesaving emergency care, nutrition and vaccines. As a new monthly donor you will receive regular updates on how your gifts are helping to save Vegan Gains life.  Please donate generously.



Can I fuck her when I donate more than 0.25 cents?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 25, 2017, 01:13:18 PM
That annoying Christian Guzman dude has been spending like a drunken sailor so I really hope they don't cut his pay.

He might have to give up his range rover lease! :D

mr white if guzman goes broke do you think he will go back to taking big white and black cocks up his taco shoot  for some fast easy cash
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: cephissus on April 25, 2017, 01:20:10 PM
Fuck anyone saying "get a real job", bunch of vindictive morons.

You idiots deserve a world where everyone is just as stupid and miserable as you.  Good luck entertaining yourselves.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Megalodon on April 25, 2017, 01:25:17 PM
Fuck anyone saying "get a real job", bunch of vindictive morons.

You idiots deserve every a world where everyone is just as stupid and miserable as you.  Good luck entertaining yourselves.

Exactly. Many here complain about "who controls the media" then when the people have a chance to earn money, produce media content, and gain a following they become furious, jealous, and view them illegitimate.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Dave D on April 25, 2017, 01:32:47 PM
Vegan gains is broke implies he was not broke at one time.  This is a guy who lived at home correct?

If he made a living from videos I'm sure has bright enough to figure something out.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: TheShape. on April 25, 2017, 01:34:11 PM

Can I fuck her when I donate more than 0.25 cents?
"Jennahyyy!!! Arieghhh!"
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: SF1900 on April 25, 2017, 01:52:13 PM
Vince, why are there lawsuits against him?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Earl1972 on April 25, 2017, 01:57:45 PM
Vince, why are there lawsuits against him?

maybe slander?

he has a series called "worst of the fitness industry" where he picks out famous people in the industry like layne norton where he points out all their BS

E
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Simple Simon on April 25, 2017, 01:59:58 PM
maybe slander?

he has a series called "worst of the fitness industry" where he picks out famous people in the industry like layne norton where he points out all their BS

E
if its true it isnt slander...
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: wes on April 25, 2017, 02:01:09 PM
Vegan Gains
::)
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Earl1972 on April 25, 2017, 02:02:37 PM
if its true it isnt slander...

well layne sued jason blaha for accusing him of steroids, does that make him natural?

lance armstrong did the same thing and we know how that turned out

E
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: NelsonMuntz on April 25, 2017, 02:57:10 PM
Kid will make home alright, he will just move back home with Mommy.

With his mental problems he alluded to having a few years back(schizophrenia or something) would not be surprised if he was collecting Ontario Disability or something in the past
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2017, 03:24:12 PM
Vince, why are there lawsuits against him?

Slander.  He's  also been arrested for communicating death threats, stalking, and trespassing along with damaging property during a few vegan protests against fur
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Nails on April 25, 2017, 03:30:31 PM
Slander.  He's  also been arrested for communicating death threats, stalking, and trespassing along with damaging property during a few vegan protests against fur

is that why he fled canada?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Rudee on April 25, 2017, 03:37:17 PM
Vegan Gains
::)


Due to unforeseen financial circumstances, Vegan Gains is now known as Vegan Losses.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2017, 03:44:18 PM
is that why he fled canada?

Nah, he left to pursue that hairy Belgium mudshark who is now doing nothing but playing video games.  Once the money  is gone, she'll fly back to Belgium to visit family and never return ;D
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: epic2 on April 25, 2017, 03:52:56 PM

Vegan Gains was making thousands of dollars a week....however the money went out just as fast from traveling to computer hardware to other stupid shit.  

I didn't start a channel because the income can be yanked away at anytime leaving no recourse....unlike my ecommerce sites that I run solely.  I control them and the revenue.  Not only that, I can say what I want to say on my site Anabolic Mayhem and don't have to worry about the Youtube police taking it down.  


Truthfully, his downfall was that he didn't have an education....otherwise, he would have managed his money better
Quote from: Costanza on November 24, 2015, 06:21:16 PM
You should start a YouTube channel Vinc

Quote from: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 24, 2015, 06:27:29 PM

Been working on it.  I redid my office and added an executive desk along with buying a ton of media equipment this month.  Bank account is a little low now.....lol.  Hopefully, I can get it up by the end of the year.  Youtube is the way to go.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Don_Dada on April 25, 2017, 04:03:53 PM
Quote from: Costanza on November 24, 2015, 06:21:16 PM
You should start a YouTube channel Vinc

Quote from: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 24, 2015, 06:27:29 PM

Been working on it.  I redid my office and added an executive desk along with buying a ton of media equipment this month.  Bank account is a little low now.....lol.  Hopefully, I can get it up by the end of the year.  Youtube is the way to go.


Goodrum caught contradicting himself again? No way
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: WalterWhite on April 25, 2017, 04:09:00 PM
mr white if guzman goes broke do you think he will go back to taking big white and black cocks up his taco shoot  for some fast easy cash

He and his friends can host pool parties at his latest digs.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 25, 2017, 04:20:52 PM
Kid will make home alright, he will just move back home with Mommy.

With his mental problems he alluded to having a few years back(schizophrenia or something) would not be surprised if he was collecting Ontario Disability or something in the past

nelson do you think a career in gay porn would be more up vegan gains avenue, i mean its not a full time job and he can make some fast easy cash !
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 25, 2017, 04:22:08 PM
He and his friends can host pool parties at his latest digs.


i bet there will be lots of condoms and lube and those pool parties
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: SF1900 on April 25, 2017, 08:21:16 PM
Slander.  He's  also been arrested for communicating death threats, stalking, and trespassing along with damaging property during a few vegan protests against fur

Vince, why slander? It's not covered under the first amendment?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: illuminati on April 25, 2017, 08:48:39 PM
well layne sued jason blaha for accusing him of steroids, does that make him natural?

lance armstrong did the same thing and we know how that turned out

E



Can't understand why Lance Armstrong gets so much grief
When I took so many Drugs I couldn't even Find my Freaking Bike
Let alone Win a 3wk Race on it.!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: tres_taco_combo on April 25, 2017, 08:59:34 PM
he seems like a smart dude, get a solid job at some firm in Toronto where he lives? tech, finance, medical, etc etc i assume he is educated formally?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Simple Simon on April 25, 2017, 09:54:17 PM
well layne sued jason blaha for accusing him of steroids, does that make him natural?

lance armstrong did the same thing and we know how that turned out

E
zero evidence of steroid use makes him natural in the eyes of the law, and that equals slander...
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2017, 10:12:59 PM
Quote from: Costanza on November 24, 2015, 06:21:16 PM
You should start a YouTube channel Vinc

Quote from: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 24, 2015, 06:27:29 PM

Been working on it.  I redid my office and added an executive desk along with buying a ton of media equipment this month.  Bank account is a little low now.....lol.  Hopefully, I can get it up by the end of the year.  Youtube is the way to go.



Do you see the fucking date I posted that shit???  Youtube was the way to go at the time and I was working on it until I got the job offer in Greenville. 
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: epic2 on April 25, 2017, 10:32:41 PM
Yes I see the date . So you were all in in late November but in January when you moved YouTube went to shit you got a job. A two month span changed your direction in life.  Let me ask you a serious question. When you make posts do you not remember that all this is written down and can be recited? Or do you just shoot from the hip and dont remember? And what's to gain by telling a bunch of strangers lies? Also do you really believe your going to compete this year? Or is that just to keep people interested in seeing if you follow through ?


Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Griffith on April 25, 2017, 10:56:50 PM
Maybe all these YouTube people should look for real jobs.

Too many parasites and people skimming off others money these days.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2017, 11:14:49 PM
Yes I see the date . So you were all in in late November but in January when you moved YouTube went to shit you got a job. A two month span changed your direction in life.  Let me ask you a serious question. When you make posts do you not remember that all this is written down and can be recited? Or do you just shoot from the hip and dont remember? And what's to gain by telling a bunch of strangers lies? Also do you really believe your going to compete this year? Or is that just to keep people interested in seeing if you follow through ?






It makes a huge difference.  I was only making 11.19 an hour working at Lowes so I definitely was doing a number of projects to bring in extra income.  However, I honestly don't owe you or anyone else an explanation as to my decisions just to be clear.  You should be lucky that I even took the time to address it.  People make plans but plan change.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: HockeyFightFan on April 25, 2017, 11:31:53 PM


It makes a huge difference.  I was only making 11.19 an hour working at Lowes so I definitely was doing a number of projects to bring in extra income.  However, I honestly don't owe you or anyone else an explanation as to my decisions just to be clear.  You should be lucky that I even took the time to address it.  People make plans but plan change.

Then don't come here with your bullshit thread trying to steer traffic to that piece of shit's YouTube site.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Marty Champions on April 26, 2017, 12:08:07 AM
remember he plagurized heme'iron info from mr falcon
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Don_Dada on April 26, 2017, 12:16:57 AM
maybe slander?

he has a series called "worst of the fitness industry" where he picks out famous people in the industry like layne norton where he points out all their BS

E



earl what was your opinion of what Blaha said about Levrone being suicidal?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Zillotch on April 26, 2017, 12:23:02 AM
Yes I see the date . So you were all in in late November but in January when you moved YouTube went to shit you got a job. A two month span changed your direction in life.  Let me ask you a serious question. When you make posts do you not remember that all this is written down and can be recited? Or do you just shoot from the hip and dont remember? And what's to gain by telling a bunch of strangers lies? Also do you really believe your going to compete this year? Or is that just to keep people interested in seeing if you follow through ?

i f u w e r e t o d o u b l e u r i n t e l l e c t , a n d t h e n c o u n t t h e n u m b e r o f l e t t e r s i n t h e s e n t e n c e t h a t u r r e a d i n g , s u b t r a c t h a l f o f t h a t t o t a l , d i v i d e t h a t n e w t o t a L b y 4 , a n d t h e n s u b t r a c t 2 m o r e... u ' d e n d u p w i t h t r i p l e u r I Q... u s t o o o p i d s l a c k j a w e d p h a g g o t
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: jwb on April 26, 2017, 12:28:14 AM
Isnt calling a person of color "boy" considered a life sentence offense in 2017?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: heenok on April 26, 2017, 12:43:55 AM
So because he critisized Islam they cut his youtube money ?
Freedom of speech of peace...
Notice how all the fucked up stuff he did before like harrassing people on the streets for wearing canada goose jackets went unnoticed.
His whole channel is about pushing his bigoted extreme ideas and bullying people now he cant play the victim.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: d0nny2600 on April 26, 2017, 01:24:35 AM


It makes a huge difference.  I was only making 11.19 an hour working at Lowes so I definitely was doing a number of projects to bring in extra income.  However, I honestly don't owe you or anyone else an explanation as to my decisions just to be clear.  You should be lucky that I even took the time to address it.  People make plans but plan change.
Exactly. For the record I would watch your Youtube channel.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Howard on April 26, 2017, 05:37:28 AM
he's in financial trouble because of his freeloading foreign wife that just plays video games all day

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 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

LOL, best post of the thread.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: falco on April 26, 2017, 05:59:32 AM
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Wiggs on April 26, 2017, 06:01:41 AM
He had it coming.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: NelsonMuntz on April 26, 2017, 06:39:06 AM
Quote from: Costanza on November 24, 2015, 06:21:16 PM
You should start a YouTube channel Vinc

Quote from: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 24, 2015, 06:27:29 PM

Been working on it.  I redid my office and added an executive desk along with buying a ton of media equipment this month.  Bank account is a little low now.....lol.  Hopefully, I can get it up by the end of the year.  Youtube is the way to go.


So Vince, what happened to the executive desk and the ton of media equipment you bought that month? Show us a picture of said equipment with your new phone

(http://www.writingwinters.com/wp-content/uploads/Philosoraptor.jpg)
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 26, 2017, 07:11:36 AM
So because he critisized Islam they cut his youtube money ?
Freedom of speech of peace...
Notice how all the fucked up stuff he did before like harrassing people on the streets for wearing canada goose jackets went unnoticed.
His whole channel is about pushing his bigoted extreme ideas and bullying people now he cant play the victim.


Advertisers don't want to pay for hate speech or racism obviously.  Nor do they want to pay for people being personally attacked or death threats. 
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 26, 2017, 07:32:19 AM
so basically anal gains sabatoged himself,  has he ever had a real job ?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 26, 2017, 07:44:52 AM
So Vince, what happened to the executive desk and the ton of media equipment you bought that month? Show us a picture of said equipment with your new phone

(http://www.writingwinters.com/wp-content/uploads/Philosoraptor.jpg)


How about I don't, Milly..... ;)
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: kreator on April 26, 2017, 07:53:53 AM
what's a ''real job''? 90% of people hate their job, these guys at least seem ok and enjoy the attention whoring they display through social media but it's not their fault that they're making money  selling crap or fake dreams, it's the people's fault for clicking on the videos
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: wes on April 26, 2017, 08:07:34 AM
I could give 2 fux about this "celebrity" !
::)
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: epic2 on April 26, 2017, 08:10:19 AM
vince why do you lie so much? what the hell is there to gain? don't you get sick of getting caught in them?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: tres_taco_combo on April 26, 2017, 03:24:54 PM
maybe slander?

he has a series called "worst of the fitness industry" where he picks out famous people in the industry like layne norton where he points out all their BS

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defamation, slander, false light, innuendo, libel per se - are serious civil torts that really fucking hard to win in the court of law.

also if you win a default judgment.. i doubt these youtube "stars" would ever pay it or could pay it.


false light invasion of privacy... ahh that shit and the civil court system - good luck kids -

word to the wise - bringing litigation on someone who cant pay or prolly wont pay isnt worth your time. lawsuits also take years. yes years  :-[
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: tres_taco_combo on April 26, 2017, 03:29:22 PM
Bingo!

Preaching your fitness knowledge on YouTube for $$ is a sweet gig.
The trick is to get a large following and keep them coming back for more.

The reality is most "real jobs" suck balls .
That's because most jobs demand some form of tedious, dull work.

Every successful , internet fitness "celebrity" , requires 1000's of followers to generate a viable income.
You can't have 1,000,000 celeb wannabees, with a 1,000,000 total followers.
Million/ Million = 1 .

99.99% NEED TO BE FANS AND SUPPORT THE CELEBRITIES FOR IT TO MAKE $$$$.

agreed. these dude would be selling gym memeberships or working at GNC etc so they are doing well for themselves.

jerry ward? come on
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: The Keto Kid on April 26, 2017, 03:54:10 PM
Wtf is this guy doing working 60 hrs a week on these videos?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: SF1900 on April 26, 2017, 04:38:42 PM
(http://i63.tinypic.com/oqzuo5.png)
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Nails on April 26, 2017, 04:49:02 PM
Jeezus , and i thought calling 1-900-hot-sluts  was expensive as a kid
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Rudee on April 26, 2017, 06:12:34 PM
Beggin' Gains
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Earl1972 on April 26, 2017, 07:11:24 PM


earl what was your opinion of what Blaha said about Levrone being suicidal?

i don't know about suicidal, but i have said numerous times i am worried about him

there is nothing to gain and everything to lose by competing at this point

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Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Earl1972 on April 26, 2017, 07:13:51 PM
Maybe all these YouTube people should look for real jobs.

Too many parasites and people skimming off others money these days.

if they get hundreds of thousands of views each video like vegan gains why shouldn't they get paid for it?

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Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Megalodon on April 26, 2017, 07:42:52 PM
Ad revenue is slowing going back up but people like Vegan Gains who stand up for an ideology, and VG stands for a lot more than Veganism, are penalized by Youtube.

Youtube's algorithms pick up controversial words and will demonetize certain videos. They did this before the big boycott VG is now complaining about. He was hit big weeks before he put out these videos asking for donations.

Once your video is demonetized, it no longer has ads. That takes away your incentive for creating similar videos because you'd be working for days on a video and not get paid.

Then you don't even want to stand for or say anything controversial because you won't have any ads and won't earn an income.

Bigger, smarter companies like Info Wars sell their own products. Their videos are their own commercials, so it doesn't matter nearly as much if they are monetized or not with Google ads.

This hits both the independent left and the right. If you're snickering and giggling because you think the right is hit more, it hits the little-guy left just as much as the little-guy right.

The big mainstream corporations like Fox, CNN, etc... are not hurt at all...which should make many on here happy because you only want to consume info created by big companies and hate people like yourselves.  


Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: SF1900 on April 26, 2017, 07:52:43 PM
Ad revenue is slowing going back up but people like Vegan Gains who stand up for an ideology, and VG stands for a lot more than Veganism, are penalized by Youtube.

Youtube's algorithms pick up controversial words and will demonetize certain videos. They did this before the big boycott VG is now complaining about. He was hit big weeks before he put out these videos asking for donations.

Once your video is demonetized, it no longer has ads. That takes away your incentive for creating similar videos because you'd be working for days on a video and not get paid.

Then you don't even want to stand for or say anything controversial because you won't have any ads and won't earn an income.

Bigger, smarter companies like Info Wars sell their own products. Their videos are their own commercials, so it doesn't matter nearly as much if they are monetized or not with Google ads.

This hits both the independent left and the right. If you're snickering and giggling because you think the right is hit more, it hits the little-guy left just as much as the little-guy right.

The big mainstream corporations like Fox, CNN, etc... are not hurt at all...which should make many on here happy because you only want to consume info created by big companies and hate people like yourselves.  




How can they demonetize certain videos? Don't they get paid based on views?!?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Megalodon on April 26, 2017, 08:04:33 PM
How can they demonetize certain videos? Don't they get paid based on views?!?

Behind the scenes, on VG's Youtube account, he will see a dollar sign icon that is grayed(demonetized) out or green(monetized). YT just demonetizes videos. You can contest it, then a human will yay or nay it, possibly overruling the algorithm.,,but the employees that "yay or nay" have rules to follow and many times the algorithm is "correct".

Yes, you get paid for views but it's really watch time. However, if there are no ads you don't get paid.  What I mean by watch time is you may get more minutes watched(which means more revenue) on a video that only has 500,000 views if people watch more of it(say 5 minutes of the video is watched on average), that's more $ than a video with 2,000,000 views that people turn off after 5 seconds(5 seconds watch time on average).
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: tres_taco_combo on April 26, 2017, 08:45:48 PM
Behind the scenes, on VG's Youtube account, he will see a dollar sign icon that is grayed(demonetized) out or green(monetized). YT just demonetizes videos. You can contest it, then a human will yay or nay it, possibly overruling the algorithm.,,but the employees that "yay or nay" have rules to follow and many times the algorithm is "correct".

Yes, you get paid for views but it's really watch time. However, if there are no ads you don't get paid.  What I mean by watch time is you may get more minutes watched(which means more revenue) on a video that only has 500,000 views if people watch more of it(say 5 minutes of the video is watched on average), that's more $ than a video with 2,000,000 views that people turn off after 5 seconds(5 seconds watch time on average).

estimated income of youtubers in our world

1. bradley martyn?
2. calum von moger?
3. jerry ward?
4. lobinnner?
5. hodge twins?
6. the thin/ripped mexican kid in texas?

estimated income?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: HockeyFightFan on April 26, 2017, 09:00:43 PM
I had a YouTube channel of the world's best man on man action.

The only views I ever got were from Port Lucie, Florida and Manley Beach, Australia

I made $32,876,982 last year on it.

 ;D
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Megalodon on April 26, 2017, 09:13:32 PM
estimated income of youtubers in our world

1. bradley martyn?
2. calum von moger?
3. jerry ward?
4. lobinnner?
5. hodge twins?
6. the thin/ripped mexican kid in texas?

estimated income?

There's a site that gives a pretty reasonable estimate of the money made from YT ads...i don't remember what it is but the important thing is selling your own stuff and building a brand. Then you can transfer your audience to other social media platforms if necessary. I don't know who the thin ripped kid is or bradley martin but cvm, ward, hodges, lobliner, have other things going on that augment their YT.  If you're selling something and you turn you videos into basically advertisemernts for your product that could be worth 10,000s in advertising and make you 100,000s of dollars...much more than YT Google ad money. People are going to have to think of YT differently and not rely on Google advertisers. It's actually a VERY good thing that this is happening to VG and others. It forces them to do something they wouldn't have done but should have, get their own sponsors ,sell their own stuff,,,"crisis=danger or opportunity" type of thing depending on how you deal with it.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: rocket on April 28, 2017, 03:26:40 AM
Behind the scenes, on VG's Youtube account, he will see a dollar sign icon that is grayed(demonetized) out or green(monetized). YT just demonetizes videos. You can contest it, then a human will yay or nay it, possibly overruling the algorithm.,,but the employees that "yay or nay" have rules to follow and many times the algorithm is "correct".

To add to this - from experience - if you have an unfavourable occurrence with youtube, it is virtually impossible to get it reversed, nor will they ever disclose any specifics as to why it was demonetised / why you were copyright striked / why you have been suspended etc.  The very best you will get is an incredibly generic reason and a face full of closed doors and frustration.  

Even a few years ago, they were deliberately doing some basic filtration on subjects - I know someone who has some videos that have 911 (September 11) in the title.  He lost his monetisation on them.  I guarantee that with this latest incident, it is likely that you will not be able to make videos on many popular, but "taboo" subjects and it is more than likely that any channel with "controversial" content will suffer extreme adversity.  Google will never tell you this, they will never tell you why and they won't really give many tips on how to avoid this in the future.  Many many channels have died because of this.  I will see that guy tomorrow and I know he makes quite a few thousand a year off of one particular video that may court controversy they are no longer willing to bankroll (the video has multiple millions of views).

Anybody who thinks they are enjoying the end of vegan gains can think again, though - he is already up to 1200$ a month on patreon.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: NelsonMuntz on April 28, 2017, 11:03:53 AM
Interesting how a young man on youtube with a following can get 40,000 views for having a PR bench of 240lbs. Fuck I once did 235lbs in a bodyweight for reps contest back in 98 and got 19 strict reps(17 approved) and I get no love lol.

Honestly I really do not understand how so many young men are training today and hardly any can bench 2 plates per side for reps unless on gear. Back in the late 80's it seemed among my peers in the gym, the 18-21 year olds who were drug free would bench 250-275 for 5 ish reps(twice a week) and the gassed up ones were in the 315 range for the same reps, Now they are all geared up just to bench 225 for 1-5 reps lol

Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Megalodon on April 28, 2017, 11:12:23 AM


Even a few years ago, they were deliberately doing some basic filtration on subjects - I know someone who has some videos that have 911 (September 11) in the title.  He lost his monetisation on them.  I guarantee that with this latest incident, it is likely that you will not be able to make videos on many popular, but "taboo" subjects and it is more than likely that any channel with "controversial" content will suffer extreme adversity.  Google will never tell you this, they will never tell you why and they won't really give many tips on how to avoid this in the future.  Many many channels have died because of this.  I will see that guy tomorrow and I know he makes quite a few thousand a year off of one particular video that may court controversy they are no longer willing to bankroll (the video has multiple millions of views).


"The powers that be" want it so that they are the only ones that can even discuss the news. There are key words or phrases like "drone attack", "isis" or "drug dealing" that automatically cause a video to be demonetized if those words are in the title or description........UNLES S its CNN, Fox, etc....and, as you know, or anyone that has made a video knows, demonetizing means de-incentivizing, which means you don't waste your time making the video because the incentive($$$$$) is taken away.  Furthermore, they're working on demonetizing for "offensive" spoken words that the automated transcriber picks up and, once again, this will not affect CNN, Fox, NBC...  We already have official high-priests that report and interpret the news and that's the way it should stay! ;)
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Megalodon on April 28, 2017, 11:20:20 AM


Honestly I really do not understand how so many young men are training today and hardly any can bench 2 plates per side for reps unless on gear. Back in the late 80's it seemed among my peers in the gym, the 18-21 year olds who were drug free would bench 250-275 for 5 ish reps(twice a week) and the gassed up ones were in the 315 range for the same reps, Now they are all geared up just to bench 225 for 1-5 reps lol


Even in the late eighties, primarily the stronger, more "hardcore" people would go to gyms after being inspired by the movie Pumping Iron, Conan films, Rambo, Terminator, etc.... even the mainstream gyms were more hardcore like Golds franchises with the bald meathead logo, etc....now, practically EVERYONE goes to the gym. If practically everyone went to your gym in the 80s you'd see the same thing you see now.

Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Parker on April 28, 2017, 11:31:19 AM
"The powers that be" want it so that they are the only ones that can even discuss the news. There are key words or phrases like "drone attack", "isis" or "drug dealing" that automatically cause a video to be demonetized if those words are in the title or description........UNLES S its CNN, Fox, etc....and, as you know, or anyone that has made a video knows, demonetizing means de-incentivizing, which means you don't waste your time making the video because the incentive($$$$$) is taken away.  Furthermore, they're working on demonetizing for "offensive" spoken words that the automated transcriber picks up and, once again, this will not affect CNN, Fox, NBC...  We already have official high-priests that report and interpret the news and that's the way it should stay! ;)
One wonders if this will be the end of Tommy Sotomayor as well.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Megalodon on April 28, 2017, 11:39:19 AM
One wonders if this will be the end of Tommy Sotomayor as well.

He could probably raise the money pretty easily through patreon(or something else if he's banned from there) and he may have a radio show or other sources of money. He could keep his overhead down if he stopped literally renting mansions to live in and do his show from, but that's his business ;D.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: The Keto Kid on April 28, 2017, 03:27:11 PM
First World Problems! DurianRider keeping it real!

Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: WalterWhite on April 28, 2017, 04:06:14 PM
Interesting how a young man on youtube with a following can get 40,000 views for having a PR bench of 240lbs. Fuck I once did 235lbs in a bodyweight for reps contest back in 98 and got 19 strict reps(17 approved) and I get no love lol.

Honestly I really do not understand how so many young men are training today and hardly any can bench 2 plates per side for reps unless on gear. Back in the late 80's it seemed among my peers in the gym, the 18-21 year olds who were drug free would bench 250-275 for 5 ish reps(twice a week) and the gassed up ones were in the 315 range for the same reps, Now they are all geared up just to bench 225 for 1-5 reps lol



Oh and it's even scarier when a guy tears his pec on 275 (spotted one geared up kid when it happened). We had a good weight program at my HS and I was benching 315 as a fairly light WR/tailback at 17.  I think I got 275 when I was 16.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: TheShape. on April 29, 2017, 11:35:23 AM
Interesting how a young man on youtube with a following can get 40,000 views for having a PR bench of 240lbs. Fuck I once did 235lbs in a bodyweight for reps contest back in 98 and got 19 strict reps(17 approved) and I get no love lol.

Honestly I really do not understand how so many young men are training today and hardly any can bench 2 plates per side for reps unless on gear. Back in the late 80's it seemed among my peers in the gym, the 18-21 year olds who were drug free would bench 250-275 for 5 ish reps(twice a week) and the gassed up ones were in the 315 range for the same reps, Now they are all geared up just to bench 225 for 1-5 reps lol


Sad!
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Matt on April 29, 2017, 11:53:18 AM
Interesting how a young man on youtube with a following can get 40,000 views for having a PR bench of 240lbs. Fuck I once did 235lbs in a bodyweight for reps contest back in 98 and got 19 strict reps(17 approved) and I get no love lol.

Wow!!

That is very strong for any weight.  I was around there myself - 225 for 20 strict reps when I weighed around 170-lb or so.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: NelsonMuntz on April 29, 2017, 01:46:01 PM
Oh and it's even scarier when a guy tears his pec on 275 (spotted one geared up kid when it happened). We had a good weight program at my HS and I was benching 315 as a fairly light WR/tailback at 17.  I think I got 275 when I was 16.

I think the key point possibly here is that you guys had a good weight program at school. The same could be said for the gyms back then too, usually the owner or one of his employees/other gym members would help set you on some kind of path whereas today they get it all advice from the cut and pasters off the internet who are not shown practicing what they preach.

I don't know how many times I rolled my head over the years when some wanna be internet guru cuts and pastes some 60 page abstract on hemoglobin levels and a bunch acolytes on there "claim" to have read it. These are most add fucks who barely finished their homework at night to get into college, gimme a break.

It's not that the info today is bad, it's that there is no real qualified in person constructive criticism, guidance and/or coaching except if you are rich

Wow!!

That is very strong for any weight.  I was around there myself - 225 for 20 strict reps when I weighed around 170-lb or so.

Thanks. I didn't find it very impressive back then because almost everyone else any day of the week in my gym could do that give or take 10-20lbs. What impressed me about that day for myself is I did it without a warmup and had practiced with 225 for a couple weeks leading up not knowing the scale I was using was off by 10 lbs. I was working part time at that gym at that time and got caught up helpinh out with something else on my name got called 2nd lol so I had no time to prepare or be prepared that I in fact weighed 232 instead of 225ish and would have to do 10lbs more than I though, without a warmup
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: rocket on April 29, 2017, 06:26:54 PM
without a warmup

Anything you can do for 20.. IS a warmup :)

Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: WalterWhite on April 29, 2017, 10:16:06 PM
I think the key point possibly here is that you guys had a good weight program at school. The same could be said for the gyms back then too, usually the owner or one of his employees/other gym members would help set you on some kind of path whereas today they get it all advice from the cut and pasters off the internet who are not shown practicing what they preach.

I don't know how many times I rolled my head over the years when some wanna be internet guru cuts and pastes some 60 page abstract on hemoglobin levels and a bunch acolytes on there "claim" to have read it. These are most add fucks who barely finished their homework at night to get into college, gimme a break.

It's not that the info today is bad, it's that there is no real qualified in person constructive criticism, guidance and/or coaching except if you are rich

No doubt I trained at a very well known gym outside of Boston back in the day and won big teenage contests in the 165's because the owner and other serious powerlifters coached/mentored us. They would post top lifts on a board as you entered the gym. I never felt a pec twinge even when I was over 500. I started lifting on the plastic weights at about 13 and my fist contest bench over 400 was at 20. Seven years of steady training gave me a solid foundation.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: TheShape. on April 30, 2017, 05:26:09 AM
No doubt I trained at a very well known gym outside of Boston back in the day and won big teenage contests in the 165's because the owner and other serious powerlifters coached/mentored us. They would post top lifts on a board as you entered the gym. I never felt a pec twinge even when I was over 500. I started lifting on the plastic weights at about 13 and my fist contest bench over 400 was at 20. Seven years of steady training gave me a solid foundation.
You benched 500?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: SuperTed on April 30, 2017, 05:41:12 AM
Interesting how a young man on youtube with a following can get 40,000 views for having a PR bench of 240lbs. Fuck I once did 235lbs in a bodyweight for reps contest back in 98 and got 19 strict reps(17 approved) and I get no love lol.

The views are because of him rather then the weight lifted. Even if a video of someone benching 135 is posted, it would still get thousands of views if that person has a lot of subscribers and followers.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Dave D on April 30, 2017, 05:54:38 AM
Wow!!

That is very strong for any weight.  I was around there myself - 225 for 20 strict reps when I weighed around 170-lb or so.

Matt you should post the video of this.  I'm sure you would have recorded this remarkable feat of strength as you do for everything else you attempt.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on May 01, 2017, 05:32:08 AM
No doubt I trained at a very well known gym outside of Boston back in the day and won big teenage contests in the 165's because the owner and other serious powerlifters coached/mentored us. They would post top lifts on a board as you entered the gym. I never felt a pec twinge even when I was over 500. I started lifting on the plastic weights at about 13 and my fist contest bench over 400 was at 20. Seven years of steady training gave me a solid foundation.

Right. In my high school class, we had plenty of kids repping 315 on incline and 495 on squats. I had the high school record in the deadlift at 700.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 01, 2017, 08:39:19 AM
Well it appears that his Patreon account is going to keep him going for a little longer.  He has enough supporters to pay him almost 1800 bucks a month to continue his content.  However, this is like nailing a few planks under a heavily leaking ship because he'll have to pay taxes on all of those donations.  Either the lawsuits or the criminal charges will shut him down
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on May 01, 2017, 08:58:55 AM
Well it appears that his Patreon account is going to keep him going for a little longer.  He has enough supporters to pay him almost 1800 bucks a month to continue his content.  However, this is like nailing a few planks under a heavily leaking ship because he'll have to pay taxes on all of those donations.  Either the lawsuits or the criminal charges will shut him down

again with your wildly unfounded speculations.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Twaddle on May 01, 2017, 09:22:24 AM
Well it appears that his Patreon account is going to keep him going for a little longer.  He has enough supporters to pay him almost 1800 bucks a month to continue his content.  However, this is like nailing a few planks under a heavily leaking ship because he'll have to pay taxes on all of those donations.  Either the lawsuits or the criminal charges will shut him down

Is 1800 a month enough to survive on?   ???
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: SF1900 on May 01, 2017, 09:26:22 AM
Is 1800 a month enough to survive on?   ???

Not in any major American city.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on May 01, 2017, 09:29:23 AM
Goodrum, can't you donate a few bitcoins to this half-hebrew?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 01, 2017, 09:31:53 AM
Is 1800 a month enough to survive on?   ???


Maybe for one person but he has a wife so no..
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 01, 2017, 09:54:47 AM
Question about YouTube. Between all of my social media platforms I have something like 40k followers and although I do have a YouTube channel I've never really put much effort into it. Everyday I do take video of training exercises or clients doing the exercise. The video are uploaded to an app I have called YouTube capture. I literally have hundreds of video content. So here's the question.

1. When you edit the videos, do these guys use some elaborate editing program or just Movie Maker? Where I'm at (facility) we have two offices and I'm thinking about taking a third for just video production. Over the last couple of weeks we've shot probably over 100 videos (using a real camera) for a corporate account and have been just editing on Movie Maker.

2. After uploading the video, what are they doing on the back end? (no, no homo) meaning as far as tags, etc to reach their audience or gain subscribers?

Honest questions. I'm not looking for smartass answers  
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Megalodon on May 01, 2017, 10:04:11 AM
People have been "donating" to HBO, Showtime, PPV, Netflix, movie theaters, etc... for years but those same people are conditioned to become upset/jealous and delegitimize media content when the "real" media isn't producing the content...YET, many of those people hate those they perceive are running the "real" media.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Megalodon on May 01, 2017, 10:14:20 AM
Question about YouTube. Between all of my social media platforms I have something like 40k followers and although I do have a YouTube channel I've never really put much effort into it. Everyday I do take video of training exercises or clients doing the exercise. The video are uploaded to an app I have called YouTube capture. I literally have hundreds of video content. So here's the question.

1. When you edit the videos, do these guys use some elaborate editing program or just Movie Maker? Where I'm at (facility) we have two offices and I'm thinking about taking a third for just video production. Over the last couple of weeks we've shot probably over 100 videos (using a real camera) for a corporate account and have been just editing on Movie Maker.

2. After uploading the video, what are they doing on the back end? (no, no homo) meaning as far as tags, etc to reach their audience or gain subscribers?

Honest questions. I'm not looking for smartass answers  

1. Never used movie maker, just Premiere for editing, but any program where you can arrange clips in order and make cuts will work.
2. The title, description,tags, even annotations you create will be searchable. You can embed your videos on your own website with further searchable titles/words to get noticed by search engines.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Twaddle on May 01, 2017, 12:57:25 PM
WTF is Patreon?   ???
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on May 01, 2017, 01:15:21 PM
It's a good thing you stayed off YouTube; otherwise you would have never landed such a sweet gig as the Verizon call center.  ::)
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: SF1900 on May 01, 2017, 01:25:30 PM
It's a good thing you stayed off YouTube; otherwise you would have never landed such a sweet gig as the Verizon call center.  ::)

Vince stated that he makes close to 60K a year now. I believe he pulls in revenue from Verizon Call Center and other business ventures.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Twaddle on May 01, 2017, 01:30:45 PM
Vince stated that he makes close to 60K a year now. I believe he pulls in revenue from Verizon Call Center and other business ventures.

That's not bad for a single income.  He should be living high on the hog in Greenville. 
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on May 01, 2017, 01:31:18 PM
Vince stated that he makes close to 60K a year now. I believe he pulls in revenue from Verizon Call Center and other business ventures.

Vince's word is worth about as much as his posing thongs in the open market.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: SF1900 on May 01, 2017, 01:37:22 PM
That's not bad for a single income.  He should be living high on the hog in Greenville. 

Vince is probably living a good lifestyle in NC.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: SF1900 on May 01, 2017, 01:38:10 PM
Vince's word is worth about as much as his posing thongs in the open market.

Remember, Vince did successfully run Caliber Fitness Solutions and it's still going strong.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Ken Fresno on May 02, 2017, 09:26:49 PM
Goodrum, can't you donate a few bitcoins to this half-hebrew?

Vince only has time for the sodomite, not the half-edomite.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 02, 2017, 09:52:26 PM
Vince is probably living a good lifestyle in NC.


Greenville, South Carolina....I left Sylva last year and moved back where I can make a decent living
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on May 03, 2017, 05:15:38 AM
How is the traffic there?  Every time I'm up in Bryson, all they talk about on the morning news is how Pelham Rd is so fucked up.  Usually multiple accidents every morning.  Is Greenville that populated?   ???

Accidents caused by Vince turning heads as he cruises in his Jag
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on May 03, 2017, 05:19:09 AM

Maybe for one person but he has a wife so no..

As we know, that's 450 a week, little more than the max UE benefit when one is laid off or fired. In a major city, in which renting a small apartment costs 1000 ore more per month, unless one has decent savings, he'll be up shit's creek!
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Kwon on May 03, 2017, 05:26:18 AM
Vince is probably living a good lifestyle in NC.

Flatters to deceive, whats his ground game like and hes been DQd twice for kneeing a grounded opponent in the head.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: el numero uno on May 03, 2017, 10:00:40 AM
Is 1800 a month enough to survive on?   ???

Does he have any family? With 1800 you could live a very comfortable life in some countries with a low cost of living (for American standards) and good quality of life, like major cities in Argentina or Chile. Some Europeans countries will do the trick too; I read that Portugal is amazing and the minimum wage is like 800 a month, so 1800 definitely will be enough.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 03, 2017, 10:11:52 AM
1. Never used movie maker, just Premiere for editing, but any program where you can arrange clips in order and make cuts will work.
2. The title, description,tags, even annotations you create will be searchable. You can embed your videos on your own website with further searchable titles/words to get noticed by search engines.

Awesome!! Thank you for this 8)
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: TuHolmes on May 03, 2017, 11:04:11 AM
Is 1800 a month enough to survive on?   ???

It depends on where you live, what you want to do for recreation, and a few other things.

Although, it's unfair for me to claim that, as I haven't made money in that tax range since I was maybe 20 or something.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: OLKE_TEXAS on May 03, 2017, 11:15:05 AM
Is 1800 a month enough to survive on?   ???
In belgium ( he lives there right?) you can live on that even after taxes but you wil have to pinch your pennies like Ahalo.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: HTexan on May 10, 2017, 06:40:02 AM
1:20

"Soooo, I'm going to have tooooo, find other streams of revenuuuuuuue."


I wonder if he's ever considered getting a fucking job.   ???
This. I could be wrong, but he seems perfectly able to work.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: residue on May 10, 2017, 07:46:31 AM
Vince stated that he makes close to 60K a year now. I believe he pulls in revenue from Verizon Call Center and other business ventures.

so he as a 40? mid 40 year old? is making entry level analyst salary... and is content?
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Powerlift66 on May 10, 2017, 10:12:07 AM
At least Vince works. Lots of basement dwellers (their Mom's) dont even try.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Parker on May 10, 2017, 10:18:49 AM
so he as a 40? mid 40 year old? is making entry level analyst salary... and is content?
Depends on where you live. I think he lives in a rural part of North Carolina, so that can take him far. Plus, possibly having more land and peace of mind than someone living in a shoebox apt in a metropolitan city in the North.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Twaddle on May 10, 2017, 10:19:09 AM
so he as a 40? mid 40 year old? is making entry level analyst salary... and is content?

60K is pretty much baller status in SC.  
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Doug_Steele on May 10, 2017, 02:26:22 PM
I think 40k a year is the average salary in Greenville, South Carolina.  :-\ :-\ I have some guys who make maybe 40k a year and raise two or three kids on that shit.  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Tapeworm on May 10, 2017, 03:46:06 PM
The broader lesson here is that rivers of money don't flow forever.  When times is good, do the squirrel thing. 

Lots of guys in Aus made killer money in the early days of the mining boom.  They took on mega mortgages, bought twin his/hers $150k vehicles, big ticket shit.  So the joke went "What are they gonna call Cashed Up Bogans in 10 years?"

"Bogans"
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: polychronopolous on May 10, 2017, 04:03:34 PM
When I have a question about anything I revert back to the Bible which I've read from cover to cover and there is nothing good in there said about debt.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Doug_Steele on May 10, 2017, 05:16:34 PM
The broader lesson here is that rivers of money don't flow forever.  When times is good, do the squirrel thing. 

Lots of guys in Aus made killer money in the early days of the mining boom.  They took on mega mortgages, bought twin his/hers $150k vehicles, big ticket shit.  So the joke went "What are they gonna call Cashed Up Bogans in 10 years?"

"Bogans"

Exactly! I know we have guys who live on overtime and when the overtime is not turned on, well, they are pissed and will go to HR to beg/demand for overtime to get turned back on. I mean, I have some men and women who have been working here for 30 years and still demand overtime.  :-\ it's sad.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Tapeworm on May 10, 2017, 05:26:21 PM
Exactly! I know we have guys who live on overtime and when the overtime is not turned on, well, they are pissed and will go to HR to beg/demand for overtime to get turned back on. I mean, I have some men and women who have been working here for 30 years and still demand overtime.  :-\ it's sad.

Dude who helps me won't save a penny.  Aus$35/hr and I frequently have to pay him in advance so he can afford gas money.  ::)  That's not crazy money here but it's plenty to keep getting to work.

Whatever.  He'll never be able to afford to start his own business so he'll always be there when I call.  Suits me.  I feel no sadness at all.
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: HTexan on May 10, 2017, 07:44:15 PM
so he as a 40? mid 40 year old? is making entry level analyst salary... and is content?
Are you saying he turn tricks as a side hustle? ???
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Doug_Steele on May 10, 2017, 08:00:23 PM
Dude who helps me won't save a penny.  Aus$35/hr and I frequently have to pay him in advance so he can afford gas money.  ::)  That's not crazy money here but it's plenty to keep getting to work.

Whatever.  He'll never be able to afford to start his own business so he'll always be there when I call.  Suits me.  I feel no sadness at all.

The funny thing is that these guys are in their mid 50's and 60's and wanna finance a house or car. I just don't get it.  :-X
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: tres_taco_combo on May 10, 2017, 09:40:38 PM
i think Vegan gains should go out on top, close up youtube and do something differently. he seems smart, why not work for a non profit that fights for animal rights etc etc

why not buy into his own cause and do that full time?

I have a theory in life. go out on top. like the QBs who retire after a super bowl win
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 10, 2017, 10:52:23 PM
I think 40k a year is the average salary in Greenville, South Carolina.  :-\ :-\ I have some guys who make maybe 40k a year and raise two or three kids on that shit.  :-\ :-\


True but its a bit different for me because I don't have the usual expenses that go with it.


No car payments
No kids
No mortgage


I also hardly ever eat out...maybe one a week if even that.  However, I do spend more money on food and eat much better.  In Sylva, while there was a Food Lion, Ingles, and Walmart...they hardly stocked any quality products and there was no Sam's Club or Costco.  Its good to be back in Greenville
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 10, 2017, 11:06:01 PM
why dont you have the ability to leave a message on your cell phone?


????
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 10, 2017, 11:10:51 PM
I just called you


I don't answer any calls on my business line after 6pm
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 10, 2017, 11:21:45 PM
I called your cell

your old number has some southern chick with a big time accent --


Not sure how you got that number but I've not had had that for over a year.  That was my number in Sylva at the time
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: Kwon on March 14, 2021, 08:24:07 AM
Youtube cut the brakes slightly on revenue but in reality, due to Vegan Gains published anti-Muslim and criminal conduct, he's been stripped of what little money he was bringing in.  Even worse, his court cases and lawsuits against him, its making his situation even worse.   Now he's online begging for money and everyone he's ever attacked is going hard on him

Considering how crazy he is....when he's finally at the end of his rope, he'll likely assault and/or possibly murder his wife and go on an actual killing spree



(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17992041_10107891425576700_3985841469982365147_n.jpg?oh=100be7d94e083fe3f47ec900fdf32872&oe=59868C03)

What's funny with Vegan Gains is, he looks black, but acts white (he is half n half).
Title: Re: Vegan Gains Is Broke - This Is Why I Never Focused On Youtube
Post by: King Shizzo on March 14, 2021, 09:25:36 AM
Vegan Gains is what Vince Goodrum wishes he could become. Most liars don't eat meat.