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Title: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Mad-scientist on April 29, 2017, 11:41:45 AM
So im on TRT and I usually am around 1000ng/dl but im thinking about bumping it up to 2000ng/dl for the summer. Since everyone responds differently dosages are irelevent in this conversation. What is your idea testosterone level while on trt or cruising? Lol and by the way just since people bitch about random threads being writen I hope you all can understand that is what keeps a forum going. Lol I just wanted to say that because this forum would be alot more popular if we did have stupid ass threads like how to inject for your first time and didnt destroy the op.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: nasht5 on April 29, 2017, 12:52:54 PM
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Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Shawnwhite on April 29, 2017, 02:56:02 PM
What ru taking weekly to get those levels ?200 mg a week?
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Mad-scientist on April 29, 2017, 06:17:09 PM
I am at 1172ng/dl when I take 80mgs a week of regular watson test e
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Mad-scientist on April 29, 2017, 06:21:11 PM
I find that I feel pretty good at around 800 to 1000 once i get up to around 1300 it starts to mess with my head if im like that for 6 months straight.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: ESFitness on April 29, 2017, 11:19:28 PM
Ideally id cruise at either a full syringe of 300mg/cc enanthate or 2cc of 250mg/cc cypionate once a week with 25-50mg/day proviron and 5-10mg/day aromasin... Maybe 1mg/day dutasteride if i notice hair in the sink.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Shawnwhite on April 30, 2017, 06:02:21 AM
I've been on a constant blast for a year and a bit....now I'm on just test e at a gram a week....gonna start a cruise at 1 cc aweek in a month so was just curious  thnx....yeah I don't feel right in the head so it's time for a long break....thnx
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Mad-scientist on April 30, 2017, 10:14:56 AM
Ideally id cruise at either a full syringe of 300mg/cc enanthate or 2cc of 250mg/cc cypionate once a week with 25-50mg/day proviron and 5-10mg/day aromasin... Maybe 1mg/day dutasteride if i notice hair in the sink.

What testosterone levels would you expect from 300mg a week I imagine it would be around 2000ng/dl. Thats kind of what im thinking for the summer.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Mad-scientist on April 30, 2017, 10:23:11 AM
I've been on a constant blast for a year and a bit....now I'm on just test e at a gram a week....gonna start a cruise at 1 cc aweek in a month so was just curious  thnx....yeah I don't feel right in the head so it's time for a long break....thnx

I think when any of us first start a cycle its easy to remember what mental side effects come from steroids and what is just our normal mental mind set. Once you get past about 4 months I find that its hard to seperate mental side effects caused by steroids from what your normal personality is like. Lol I look at it like a long shroom trip sometimes you have to realize it's all in your head but if your on shrooms for to long you forget your even on them. Being on a lot of gear or a high dosage cruise is fun but I think it can be very relaxing to go back to the 800 to 1000 range for a while.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: TheFranchise on May 01, 2017, 01:33:53 AM
600mg test enanthate per week
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: ESFitness on May 01, 2017, 04:23:50 AM
What testosterone levels would you expect from 300mg a week I imagine it would be around 2000ng/dl. Thats kind of what im thinking for the summer.

At least 2000. Id have to check back through my files. A 200 shot woyld have me above 1200-1400 a couple days post injection.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: AbrahamG on May 02, 2017, 06:45:55 PM
I am at 1172ng/dl when I take 80mgs a week of regular watson test e

I find this hard to believe. 
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: ESFitness on May 02, 2017, 10:26:18 PM
I find this hard to believe. 

That seems maybe a couple hundred high, but labs could be been drawn 2 days post injection. I'm 1200-1400 2 days post 200mg cyp injection, and enanthat has a quicker release into the bloodstream
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on May 03, 2017, 04:58:24 AM
I am at 1172ng/dl when I take 80mgs a week of regular watson test e
WTF are you talking about. There is no way 80mg a week would give you that much test levels, and if it does, that just means your test levels are through the roof to begin with that you shouldnt even need a measly 80mg a week.

Doctors try to have their patients be in the 300-700 range, and thats why they offer 100-200mg weekly at MAX for those levels.

Based on your info, if you take 200mg of test, your levels will be 2500 ng/dl, which is absolutely absurd
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Mad-scientist on May 03, 2017, 09:34:24 AM
I honestly have no reason to lie to you guys and responding to testosterone the way my body has caused me problems in the past because 850mgs of ugl test got me to over 10,000ng/dl total testosterone with free testosterone around 3500 which gave me a shit load of acne. Actual watson test I get from the pharmacy does get me to 1172ng/dl at 80mgs a week. My hemetocrit levels also rise at an abnormal rate to, and even at 1172 and giving blood every two months ill be around 52%. Also I dont plan on running any cycles any time soon because I have high blood pressure and high cholesterol so im not really getting the chance to take advantage of having high testosterone levels. Another weird thing is I am really sensetive to esteogen at 1172ng/dl I have to take about 0.10 mgs of arimidex twice a week to stay at normal levels or else I get acne and the gyno I already have flares up pretty bad and hurts lol.

 My natural test levels usually were between 413ng/dl to 600ng/dl when I was natural at about 24 to 25. My testosterone levels plummited though around 25 to 277ng/dl after I had bronchitus for about 2 months that wouldnt go away. I made the mistake of just getting on TRT instead of waiting for my levels to naturally come back to normal though. At first my doctor gave me 150mgs a week and that had me over 1500ng/dl at the time and I didnt want to stay that high because of possible long term health problems and my fsh/lh was 0.2 and 0.3.

 I wish I did have nautrally high test levels but it seems if I averaged it all out for most my 20's it would have been an average of about 500ng/dl. Sadly I never got free testosterone checked when I was natural so that could have told me more about what was going on. I do plan to try to come off of trt in the future just to see if my body rebounds back to normal because I think my testosterone was only low because I was sick for so long.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Mad-scientist on May 03, 2017, 09:53:59 AM
If it makes any difference I usually get my testosterone checked about 12 to 15 hours after a 40mg shot of test e.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on May 08, 2017, 04:27:10 PM
If it makes any difference I usually get my testosterone checked about 12 to 15 hours after a 40mg shot of test e.
Could you give more detail on the long term mental effects. Just find yourself emotionless?
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Mad-scientist on May 09, 2017, 10:50:17 AM
Well to answer your question I have to say first im just talking about myself and not trying to say everyone feels this way when they go over natural limits of testosterone. If I stay between lets say 600ng/dl to 1000ng/dl I feel normal and level headed but once I get to around 1300ng/dl or more I find that emotions are amplified. For example I start to get pissed off alot more than normal and start to feel kind of euphoric and invinsible. Lol I guess you can call it the superman syndrome when you take to much test or at least I do hahaha.

 Having to high of test for to long just gets menatally tiring for me after a while because it kind of puts me in this hyper alert mode that feels good but I can tell it's not 100% who I am if that makes sense. I tend to get alot more passionate about things which is good, but it can start to wear me out. When I go back to normal test levels I feel a little more relaxed and get more of a fuck it feeling about anything that go's wrong in life compared to a feeling where I get to amped up and want to make rasher decisions. With really high dosages though I will start to loose emotions towards people I care about and find myself thinking I don't need them in my life and wouldnt miss them if they were gone.

 The way I look at it is high testosterone levels are responsible for animals breaking off from the the group or challenging the leader of the group to take over. So I figure with humans its not to different when our testosterone spikes we want to leave home and start our own new life and challenge our parents. Lol but when your all grown up and have testosterone levels way above normal levels it can just start to get stressfull because your not really meant to feel that way at 30 for example. Lol that is just why I reccomend going back down to normal refrence range levels at least once a year for 3 months to give your self some time to mentally relax. Again though this is just how testosterone effects me not everyone and if you feel fine blasting 500mgs year round lol im jelous of you. Lol one trippy thing though is that if you have been on cycle for long enough you might genuinely have no idea about how you have mentally changed after a year straight or years of being on until you get back to normal levels.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: heenok on May 10, 2017, 07:10:54 AM
Well to answer your question I have to say first im just talking about myself and not trying to say everyone feels this way when they go over natural limits of testosterone. If I stay between lets say 600ng/dl to 1000ng/dl I feel normal and level headed but once I get to around 1300ng/dl or more I find that emotions are amplified. For example I start to get pissed off alot more than normal and start to feel kind of euphoric and invinsible. Lol I guess you can call it the superman syndrome when you take to much test or at least I do hahaha.

 Having to high of test for to long just gets menatally tiring for me after a while because it kind of puts me in this hyper alert mode that feels good but I can tell it's not 100% who I am if that makes sense. I tend to get alot more passionate about things which is good, but it can start to wear me out. When I go back to normal test levels I feel a little more relaxed and get more of a fuck it feeling about anything that go's wrong in life compared to a feeling where I get to amped up and want to make rasher decisions. With really high dosages though I will start to loose emotions towards people I care about and find myself thinking I don't need them in my life and wouldnt miss them if they were gone.

 The way I look at it is high testosterone levels are responsible for animals breaking off from the the group or challenging the leader of the group to take over. So I figure with humans its not to different when our testosterone spikes we want to leave home and start our own new life and challenge our parents. Lol but when your all grown up and have testosterone levels way above normal levels it can just start to get stressfull because your not really meant to feel that way at 30 for example. Lol that is just why I reccomend going back down to normal refrence range levels at least once a year for 3 months to give your self some time to mentally relax. Again though this is just how testosterone effects me not everyone and if you feel fine blasting 500mgs year round lol im jelous of you. Lol one trippy thing though is that if you have been on cycle for long enough you might genuinely have no idea about how you have mentally changed after a year straight or years of being on until you get back to normal levels.

The superman feeling dissipate after a while on high test. Your brain just get used to higher level of androgens over time.
There are subtle effects that appear over time like being more proud, more assertive, thinking you are always right.. My political views are much more right winged and conservative since ive started using too.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on May 10, 2017, 05:14:00 PM
Well to answer your question I have to say first im just talking about myself and not trying to say everyone feels this way when they go over natural limits of testosterone. If I stay between lets say 600ng/dl to 1000ng/dl I feel normal and level headed but once I get to around 1300ng/dl or more I find that emotions are amplified. For example I start to get pissed off alot more than normal and start to feel kind of euphoric and invinsible. Lol I guess you can call it the superman syndrome when you take to much test or at least I do hahaha.

 Having to high of test for to long just gets menatally tiring for me after a while because it kind of puts me in this hyper alert mode that feels good but I can tell it's not 100% who I am if that makes sense. I tend to get alot more passionate about things which is good, but it can start to wear me out. When I go back to normal test levels I feel a little more relaxed and get more of a fuck it feeling about anything that go's wrong in life compared to a feeling where I get to amped up and want to make rasher decisions. With really high dosages though I will start to loose emotions towards people I care about and find myself thinking I don't need them in my life and wouldnt miss them if they were gone.

 The way I look at it is high testosterone levels are responsible for animals breaking off from the the group or challenging the leader of the group to take over. So I figure with humans its not to different when our testosterone spikes we want to leave home and start our own new life and challenge our parents. Lol but when your all grown up and have testosterone levels way above normal levels it can just start to get stressfull because your not really meant to feel that way at 30 for example. Lol that is just why I reccomend going back down to normal refrence range levels at least once a year for 3 months to give your self some time to mentally relax. Again though this is just how testosterone effects me not everyone and if you feel fine blasting 500mgs year round lol im jelous of you. Lol one trippy thing though is that if you have been on cycle for long enough you might genuinely have no idea about how you have mentally changed after a year straight or years of being on until you get back to normal levels.
Thanks for taking the time to give a detailed explanation. Makes sense biologically.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on June 04, 2017, 09:21:52 AM
WTF are you talking about. There is no way 80mg a week would give you that much test levels, and if it does, that just means your test levels are through the roof to begin with that you shouldnt even need a measly 80mg a week.

Doctors try to have their patients be in the 300-700 range, and thats why they offer 100-200mg weekly at MAX for those levels.

Based on your info, if you take 200mg of test, your levels will be 2500 ng/dl, which is absolutely absurd

Moron.

Test levels are different with 200mg per week for different people. Some get 1200ng and some get 2000+.
Do a little reading.

And no,his level is not 1172 because he has a high natural level.
With those 85mg injected his natural testosterone is ZERO.
So what he has in bloodstream is all from exogenous test.
You fucking moron
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Genetic Freak on July 17, 2017, 12:14:32 AM

Test levels are different with 200mg per week for different people. Some get 1200ng and some get 2000+.
Do a little reading.



Blood testosterone levels can be a highly individual thing dependant upon a plethora of pharmacokinetic factors: Injection site, frequency of injection, dose, concentration, bolus size, vasculature of injection site, adipose concentrations, 5-alpha reductase, CYP 19A1, metabolic breakdown via enzymatic cleavage etc...
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: mazrim on July 17, 2017, 09:22:25 AM
Moron.

Test levels are different with 200mg per week for different people. Some get 1200ng and some get 2000+.
Do a little reading.

And no,his level is not 1172 because he has a high natural level.
With those 85mg injected his natural testosterone is ZERO.
So what he has in bloodstream is all from exogenous test.
You fucking moron
Weird how so many guys thought that that number was impossible.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Genetic Freak on July 17, 2017, 03:05:39 PM
Weird how so many guys thought that that number was impossible.

Don't forget there would be some endogenous testosterone from the adrenal gland..
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: subunit on August 14, 2017, 04:18:08 PM
cruised at half g for 4 yrs. best decision I ever made for my health.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Mad-scientist on August 17, 2017, 01:35:35 PM
Only negative side effects ive had would be increased cholesterol levels but that could be from taking arimidex at 0.12 twice a week. Lol its a weird arimidex dosage but its all I need to stay in the perfect range. I got my testosterone tested again and my free testosterone was basically at the max to for what im taking.

 I think im gonna bump my test dosage down to 30mgs twice a week and stop taking Ai's. That should put me around 800ng/dl if 40mgs twice a week puts me at 1200. I figure I wont notice any difference at all. Or I could just do a 70 mg shot once a week im really sick of injecting twice a week. I might switch to insulin needles if I stay with twice a week.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: Mad-scientist on August 17, 2017, 01:40:37 PM
High cholesterol runs in my family, right now im at 270 total cholesterol so I need to cut out ai's and start pre making healthy meals for the week. I havent even blasted for 4 years so its just a shitty diet and bad genetics for cholesterol, i doubt 0.12mgs of arimidex could effect my cholesterol that much.
Title: Re: When cruising whats your idea testosterone level?
Post by: 2whitelights on August 22, 2017, 11:44:49 AM
My ideal range is between 700-800 trough - 1100-1200 peak. on a weekly 200mg cyp shot. I may start splitting into two injections though just to see how it effects my range.