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Would it not be sufficient with a shot in the leg?
Videoclip at the bottom.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/ (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/)
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The way I see it is if you are robbing a store with a gun there is pretty much not much you won't do.Therefore you are an animal and useless to society so I say shoot away.
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Would it not be sufficient with a shot in the leg?
Videoclip at the bottom.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/ (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/)
You swing at an officer and physically attack him then you earned that bullet sandwich hold the mayo
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You swing at an officer and physically attack him then you earned that bullet sandwich hold the mayo
Vince, what about the mustard?
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Vince, what about the mustard?
No mustard....a lot of ketchup though...
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You swing at an officer and physically attack him then you earned that bullet sandwich hold the mayo
Being a former CO & Security Guard, there Vince, I would have thought you would be familiar with the term "disparity of force"
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That little dance he did as he was getting shot was kinda sweet. It sorta reminded me of the old Thriller video zombies.
Don't be an asshole in public, and don't fight with cops. That was the moral to this shooting.
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Being a former CO & Security Guard, there Vince, I would have thought you would be familiar with the term "disparity of force"
is that the same as Plausible deniability?
Another term you have no idea the meaning of?
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is that the same as Plausible deniability?
Another term you have no idea the meaning of?
BE THERE, can you please explain how ESFITNESS used the term "plausible deniability" in an incorrect manner?
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Being a former CO & Security Guard, there Vince, I would have thought you would be familiar with the term "disparity of force"
If you're attacked by an unknown person, you have no clue as to what he has. He could have popped up with a knife or even a gun. The officer had the option to tase him but he also had the option to use deadly force.
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BE THERE, can you please explain how ESFITNESS used the term "plausible deniability" in an incorrect manner?
he seems to believe that he can use the term "plausible Deniability" in reference to him posting comments about selling steroids online.
The fact is , the cops are not going to arrest him for comments made online, they will just investigate the claims he's making and gather evidence before they arrest him, at that point the term PD is useless to him as they will have a large file of photo , video, undercover cops buying his shite and multiple witness statements..
If someone confesses to a crime the prosecution services just don't go to trail with that, they still get evidence of motive and place the perp at the scene.
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he seems to believe that he can use the term "plausible Deniability" in reference to him posting comments about selling steroids online.
The fact is , the cops are not going to arrest him for comments made online, they will just investigate the claims he's making and gather evidence before they arrest him, at that point the term PD is useless to him as they will have a large file of photo , video, undercover cops buying his shite and multiple witness statements..
If someone confesses to a crime the prosecution services just don't go to trail with that, they still get evidence of motive and place the perp at the scene.
What kind of evidence you fucking moron? You really really should stop talking about things you know nothing about. You two look more like Dumber & Dumber'er every day
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What kind of evidence you fucking moron? You really really should stop talking about things you know nothing about. You two look more like Dumber & Dumber'er every day
haha, yes, I am sure you are the posterboy for intelligence. :D :D :D
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If you're causing harm, in any way, to societal order and civility, you deserve to be shot.
Dead.
Period.
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You swing at an officer and physically attack him then you earned that bullet sandwich hold the mayo
but what if it is a playing punch...like joking around?
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If you're causing harm, in any way, to societal order and civility, you deserve to be shot.
Dead.
Period.
qft
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If he did have a gun and was pointing it or not making any attempt to throw it down
he probably deserved to be shot - 7 times may have been OTT.
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Huntington Beach. Probably just a couple surfers arguing over a surf spot. Hang ten moondoggie.
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What kind of evidence you fucking moron? You really really should stop talking about things you know nothing about. You two look more like Dumber & Dumber'er every day
Oh brother...
If you are selling UGL gear there will be evidence, if not, then you are not selling them.
As I said, the cops may investigate you based on your claims, then again, they may not.
You claiming that you have cops as clients may push them to investigate a bit more, then again, they may leave you alone as they don't want to lose their source.
The el chappo of the UGL labs may get left alone.
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If he did have a gun and was pointing it or not making any attempt to throw it down
he probably deserved to be shot - 7 times may have been OTT.
"May"?
I've no sympathy when someone gets aggressive with cops in the US, I don't blame for being comparatively trigger happy to other western nation's police because of the gun problem here, but he didn't need to shoot the poor bastard 7 times.
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in regards to the thread, you go in a store armed then you deserve to die.
Most of the "off duty cop" vides you see in Brazil are executions by cop.
Fair enough in my book.
www.bestgore.com/robbery/arm-shop-owner-react-robbery-…
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there was no cause to shoot him. officer should be prosecuted.
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What happened before this? Did the guy have a gun, or was he just fighting with the officer. Yes, it does matter.
If the guy had no gun, and was just fighting or drunk or on drugs - one shot would have more than been suffice to bring him down.
But 7 shots - this officer might be prosecuted as no jury will see this as 'justified' - unless he had a gun or a knife?
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Victim wasnt black so it wont make national media.. being pushed over and over and over and over... anyways.. fuck it he attacked police officer... night night dummy....yes, i believe police officers need to be taught more restraint on certain situations...but its your life or theirs when someone attacks you(what if he overpowered the officer and took his gun and shot the cop?).. and 7 shots is due to adrenaline not anger (my opinion). majority of people i know, know not to attack police officers... when someone does, cops know its a life and death situation....just my opinion. would you attack a police officer?
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Would it not be sufficient with a shot in the leg?
Videoclip at the bottom.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/ (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/)
Happened right across the street from the school where I coach. We have been talking about this on the HB community boards since yesterday. This was an absolute justified shooting. A new video just was just posted to those boards showing the suspect attacking the cop with the cop fighting back before the suspect grabbed his belt.
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What happened before this? Did the guy have a gun, or was he just fighting with the officer. Yes, it does matter.
If the guy had no gun, and was just fighting or drunk or on drugs - one shot would have more than been suffice to bring him down.
But 7 shots - this officer will be prosecuted as no jury will see this as 'justified'
Not sure if you have access to this or not...
http://ktla.com/2017/09/25/new-graphic-video-shows-man-throwing-punch-at-officer-before-fatal-huntington-beach-shooting/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/HBcommunityforum/permalink/1977771685769674/
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Guy took something from cop's belt while they were down. Another video shows it more clearly. Comes up with it in his right hand. Pretty sure this is what made cop draw his gun.
Dude went out like Scarface, though, still standing after 6-7 shots. Unreal. First time I've seen a cop order someone to the ground after he unloads.
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if he got the cops taser then yeah he had to. if it was something else then one or two rounds were enough.
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Best friend is a Sergeant in another City in So. Cal.
"OK I just looked it up... They call those state of mind shootings.... Cop was in a fight with suspect that was crazy or on drugs (or both). The suspect tried to get the cops gun, (ended up with something off the cops belt, looked like a flashlight to me. could have been a knife or baton). So its a fight for his life...cop didn’t know what the guy had in his hand, (or that it came off his own belt) just saw a dark object and knows the suspect is trying to kill him (based on the attempted gun take-away)... Taser didn’t work. The suspect gets up and starts to reengage the cop a second time (move towards him)... The cop, fearing for his life, fires....The cop doesn’t have to re-engage giving the suspect a second chance to get his gun and kill him. He doesn’t have to wait to find out what the suspect has in his hand... He can’t run away or leave because that gives a dangerous suspect the opertunity to assault or kill a civilian ... "
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Guy took something from cop's belt while they were down. Another video shows it more clearly. Comes up with it in his right hand. Pretty sure this is what made cop draw his gun.
Dude went out like Scarface, though, still standing after 6-7 shots. Unreal. First time I've seen a cop order someone to the ground after he unloads.
really doesnt matter that it came to that point.. someone attacks you and you own a firearm(CHL), what would you do? now think about this.... nobody i know would attack a police officer... so if someone is crazy enough to attack a police officer....that means they(the civilian) has every intention to kill or hurt that officer.... what do you think is going on in the cops head?
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Happened right across the street from the school where I coach. We have been talking about this on the HB community boards since yesterday. This was an absolute justified shooting. A new video just was just posted to those boards showing the suspect attacking the cop with the cop fighting back before the suspect grabbed his belt.
Ok, thanks Coach marino!
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really doesnt matter that it came to that point.. someone attacks you and you own a firearm(CHL), what would you do? now think about this.... nobody i know would attack a police officer... so if someone is crazy enough to attack a police officer....that means they(the civilian) has every intention to kill or hurt that officer.... what do you think is going on in the cops head?
Ahh, new policy then. Appreciate the update, Sheriff Joe.
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Ahh, new policy then. Appreciate the update, Sheriff Joe.
no problem... we shall teach police officers just to say "Stop it!!"" "Please Stop"...."Oh cmon, please"
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Looking at the HB Community Forums and HB Police FB forums the asshole activists (Antifa) are chiming in and of course lying about what happened. Fuck heads
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Context:
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=999_1506200618
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Context:
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=999_1506200618
Facebook have the original poster of this video on our HB Community page a 7 day ban for graphic content. I guess it didn't fit FB's agenda because the video Clearly showed the cop had no choice.
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"May"?
I've no sympathy when someone gets aggressive with cops in the US, I don't blame for being comparatively trigger happy to other western nation's police because of the gun problem here, but he didn't need to shoot the poor bastard 7 times.
Cop only had six in the clip, one in the hole??? If I am the cop, I am emptying the clip and going home to my family.
Real brave of you to tell the cop what he should and shouldn't do from the comfort of your keyboard.
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I looked up his facebook profile.
He served in the navy. I think he had a drug problem.
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/21765793_10208052735396014_7964958789709321261_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoibCJ9&oh=e4a376ed2ea4177df71c7fd92602c0e4&oe=5A52EFFF)
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"When you engage in a fight against any person who advertises the fact that they wield a firearm, in particular a police officer, it can only be assumed by the person equipped with the gun defending themselves, that their opponent wouldn't start a fight unless they had a reasonable chance at success, which means being killed by the person attacking you. Put simply, if you know your opponent is aware you have a firearm, and they are willing to attack you anyways, you must assume it is now a fight to save your life. Had that kid been armed, he could have drawn a gun and shot that officer as soon as he was given space, and it only takes a second, maybe two. He could have dipped a hand in his hoodie and shot through his pocket. Life isn't a game. Don't fight people you shouldn't, and you won't die. Defend yourself against people who shouldn't be fighting, as this officer did, and you won't die. It's not fair to ask any officer to put their life on the line for the safety of a person who is attacking them. That isn't part of the job description"
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/71uoph/video_shows_huntington_beach_police_officer/
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Context:
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=999_1506200618
Thanks for showing the whole picture.
Justified!
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You swing at an officer and physically attack him then you earned that bullet sandwich hold the mayo
If he was black you might have had a different opinion.
But I agree this shooting was justified.
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Would it not be sufficient with a shot in the leg?
Videoclip at the bottom.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/ (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/)
If you are going to shoot someone you gotta aim for the center of mass. Intentionally shooting people in the leg only happens in the movies.
Also, shooting someone in the leg wouldn't help even if you were able to be that precise with your aim because of the femoral artery. Get shot there and it's time to die.
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If he was black you might have had a different opinion.
But I agree this shooting was justified.
Nope. A police officer has the right to come home safe to his family. This has nothing to do with race. He attacked a police officer and tried to get his gun....period.
I am glad however that you can no longer post to Stormfront.... ;D
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Nope. A police officer has the right to come home safe to his family. This has nothing to do with race. He attacked a police officer and tried to get his gun....period.
I am glad however that you can no longer post to Stormfront.... ;D
I can still post on Stormfront if I wanted to - just update your host file dummy - see attached screenshot. I might register there now just to give a finger to the left.
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Nope. A police officer has the right to come home safe to his family. This has nothing to do with race. He attacked a police officer and tried to get his gun....period.
I am glad however that you can no longer post to Stormfront.... ;D
Great topic for another video Vince. In fact I think it would do quite well based on your position.
Why just post on bodybuilding related topics.
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Looking at the HB Community Forums and HB Police FB forums the asshole activists (Antifa) are chiming in and of course lying about what happened. Fuck heads
I can't believe the morons posting on the HB forums, Coach. Especially the idiots saying, "Why didn't he shoot him in the knee?". He was mentally ill. Dishonorable discharge, mental illness, drug addict, practicing satanism, posting anti police messages, etc. On his page, you could see the downfall in his mind the last 5 years. Someone has already deleted many messages from his page. This human had no hope and was extremely damaged. It was his time to go and I'm grateful the officer wasn't injured and no other civilians or officers were injured. This could've been very ugly. I watched the police response racing down there.
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Here's just one of Dillan's Facebook posts--note the complete lack of punctuation, commas, periods, colons, or semicolons, to say nothing of paragraphs. But he did make judicious use of parentheses, for some reason.
Dillan Tabares
September 2, 2015 ·
JE JA ( JE and JAA the two destroyer male fairy) ( JA GOD)has fallen and will not return i have ended him and may have seen me there is no ancients of ancients and my twin angel sits upon his throne there are no gods left here I am the mortal dead fairy and I will rise again as jehuty God(JA) first real son of Jehovah Thoath little brother of jehoeave sorrow Lucian (brandon) (wrong name of first body) big sister is the spirit hova Dillan FEC the only seraphin the 7 hero are dead and soon to be made never for I am Aanima ff10 and I am being defiled soon this will be over I have been to all of gods infinite infinites and more of the allies I have quarantined as many as needed and made it to earth. You will be able to rest soon JE
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Here's just one of Dillan's Facebook posts--note the complete lack of punctuation, commas, periods, colons, or semicolons, to say nothing of paragraphs. But he did make judicious use of parentheses, for some reason.
Dillan Tabares
September 2, 2015 ·
JE JA ( JE and JAA the two destroyer male fairy) ( JA GOD)has fallen and will not return i have ended him and may have seen me there is no ancients of ancients and my twin angel sits upon his throne there are no gods left here I am the mortal dead fairy and I will rise again as jehuty God(JA) first real son of Jehovah Thoath little brother of jehoeave sorrow Lucian (brandon) (wrong name of first body) big sister is the spirit hova Dillan FEC the only seraphin the 7 hero are dead and soon to be made never for I am Aanima ff10 and I am being defiled soon this will be over I have been to all of gods infinite infinites and more of the allies I have quarantined as many as needed and made it to earth. You will be able to rest soon JE
But did he believe in a Flat Earth?
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He was paroled from state prison, one week before the shooting. Multiple battery charges, served 18 months.
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He was paroled from state prison, one week before the shooting. Multiple battery charges, served 18 months.
The HB forum just posted another article by MSN. Comments are racking up quick.
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The HB forum just posted another article by MSN. Comments are racking up quick.
At least we have the air show this weekend, to move the focus elsewhere.
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after spending time on the anti police page, it is refreshing to see that most people understand, the cop is not always the one who dictates the outcome of an encounter
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after spending time on the anti police page, it is refreshing to see that most people understand, the cop is not always the one who dictates the outcome of an encounter
Why would you say that -
Do you dislike reading some of the Horrible things police get up to.
Because they do & often times it is filmed thank fully for those on the receiving end
Dont help those that are dead tho.
I have often crossed verbal swords with you - Though i have also agreed & praised you
Something I notice is sadly lacking with yourself
Your quick & happy to call a scumbag a scumbag Just as long as they are not in the police service
Then you come out with a very carefully worded statement about whatever has happened or they
have done ::)
Please try to be consistent A lowlife scumbag is a lowlife scumbag whether they wear a uniform or not
Enough of your pussying around when it comes to Cops behaving like arsewipes - Fact Some do..
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Would it not be sufficient with a shot in the leg?
Videoclip at the bottom.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/ (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/)
Was that a pellet gun?
The guy was shot 7 times and was still standing? Impressive dead fucker.
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Why would you say that -
Do you dislike reading some of the Horrible things police get up to.
Because they do & often times it is filmed thank fully for those on the receiving end
Dont help those that are dead tho.
I have often crossed verbal swords with you - Though i have also agreed & praised you
Something I notice is sadly lacking with yourself
Your quick & happy to call a scumbag a scumbag Just as long as they are not in the police service
Then you come out with a very carefully worded statement about whatever has happened or they
have done ::)
Please try to be consistent A lowlife scumbag is a lowlife scumbag whether they wear a uniform or not
Enough of your pussying around when it comes to Cops behaving like arsewipes - Fact Some do..
The anti police page certainly points out some atrocious things, but there are many times, and I have pointed them out, when police get slammed for nothing
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The anti police page certainly points out some atrocious things, but there are many times, and I have pointed them out, when police get slammed for nothing
Why do cops protect cops, even when a cop is clearly wrong? This often occurs with new people on the force who are intimidated into a veil of silence.
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Why do cops protect cops, even when a cop is clearly wrong? This often occurs with new people on the force who are intimidated into a veil of silence.
soldiers do the same, family members do it for family members...
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At least we have the air show this weekend, to move the focus elsewhere.
Yep. Was fun last year. I'm home for lunch now on the beach watching them practice and circle over our house. Good stuff.
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soldiers do the same, family members do it for family members...
Doesn't make it right, especially since the difference is that cops take an "oath" to uphold the law. They are held to a higher standard. And I would not protect a family member who committed a crime.
But nice attempt at trolling!
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The anti police page certainly points out some atrocious things, but there are many times, and I have pointed them out, when police get slammed for nothing
Yes & so do many innocent people
Noticed again you only mentioned & sided with cops
That is the ingrained problem - only seeing one side.
Scumbag arsewipes are Scumbag arsewipes = See it's easy - no siding just fact
Try being unbais
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Doesn't make it right, especially since the difference is that cops take an "oath" to uphold the law. They are held to a higher standard. And I would not protect a family member who committed a crime.
But nice attempt at trolling!
Correct they do take an oath to uphold the law
And yes they should be held to a higher standard
Though quite frequently we see they are not.
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Doesn't make it right, especially since the difference is that cops take an "oath" to uphold the law. They are held to a higher standard. And I would not protect a family member who committed a crime.
But nice attempt at trolling!
I never claimed it did, I was just pointing out human nature to protect others...
And would you shop a relative if they committed a crime but what the did was morally right?
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I never claimed it did, I was just pointing out human nature to protect others...
And would you shop a relative if they committed a crime but what the did was morally right?
Does shop a relative mean turn in?
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Does shop a relative mean turn in?
yes, you also need to be very careful replying, you are going to get yourself in a whole world of knots.
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yes, you also need to be very careful replying, you are going to get yourself in a whole world of knots.
Why would I get myself into a whole world of knots by replying?
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Why would I get myself into a whole world of knots by replying?
you are wise to be wary
never mind...
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you are wise to be wary
never mind...
ok
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ok
the law and morals are not always close relatives. ;)
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the law and morals are not always close relatives. ;)
Yup
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Yup
But you said you would not protect a family member who committed a crime, it was quite a blanket catch all statement.
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(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/052011/1306866467_jumping_out_the_window.gif)
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Yep. Was fun last year. I'm home for lunch now on the beach watching them practice and circle over our house. Good stuff.
The Blue Angels appeared to be flying lower than the group last year, over downtown. It's going to be an amazing weekend.
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Would it not be sufficient with a shot in the leg?
Videoclip at the bottom.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/ (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/)
You cannot shoot people in the leg, you cannot shoot unless deadly force is necessary and in that case you have to make it deadly force and go for center mass.
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Being a former CO & Security Guard, there Vince, I would have thought you would be familiar with the term "disparity of force"
and continuum of force.
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What happened before this? Did the guy have a gun, or was he just fighting with the officer. Yes, it does matter.
If the guy had no gun, and was just fighting or drunk or on drugs - one shot would have more than been suffice to bring him down.
But 7 shots - this officer might be prosecuted as no jury will see this as 'justified' - unless he had a gun or a knife?
Mr. Avidan this is not how it works at all and in that case the Jury would be dead wrong.