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Title: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 02, 2017, 01:02:33 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/active-shooter-situation-las-vegas-police-060406234--abc-news-topstories.html


Release says 2 dead more than 20 wounded right now. Musical festival...this is getting old.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: gib on October 02, 2017, 01:07:14 AM
I'm amazed someone still uses yahoo! Seriously!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: B R on October 02, 2017, 01:09:28 AM
Religion of peace?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 02, 2017, 01:17:33 AM
I'm amazed someone still uses yahoo! Seriously!



The 6th most popular website in the world - so about as popular as your momma at the truck stop. Seriously!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: BB on October 02, 2017, 01:17:48 AM
Odd one. The music festival was a country music one. The shooter took up position on one of the upper floors that face the outdoor staging area. You can see him shooting it out with police here -

http://www.facebook.com/groups/las.vegas.shooting.master.thread/permalink/1848913348755680/ .

He's dead now, scanner chatter that some folks picked up gives an address and white sounding name for him, but too early to tell.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: jr on October 02, 2017, 01:35:29 AM
20+ dead, 100+ injured


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: phreak on October 02, 2017, 01:43:02 AM
Hope everyone is praying it's not a white guy.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Super Natural on October 02, 2017, 01:57:05 AM
 :o

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4939872/Active-shooter-reported-Las-Vegas-Mandalay-Bay-Resort.html


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: herne on October 02, 2017, 02:20:24 AM
Wanted by Las Vegas Police
She is alleged to have been companion to the shooter
in Las Vegas

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLHw8NaVYAEuqi3.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 02:32:30 AM
Wanted by Las Vegas Police
She is alleged to have been companion to the shooter
in Las Vegas

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLHw8NaVYAEuqi3.jpg)

Marilou Danley

https://www.google.com/amp/heavy.com/news/2017/10/marilou-danley-photos-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-girlfriend-person-of-interest-shooter-route-91/amp/


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 02, 2017, 02:34:41 AM
Quote
Professional poker player Dan Bilzerian, who was at the event, streamed footage of himself running. 'Holy f**k this girl just got shot in the f**king head,' he said, 'This is so f**king crazy.'


Yep, so crazy that in my attempts to run for my life I think I will get my phone out and film myself running away.

Prick deserves to have been shot for being so fucking stupid.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 02, 2017, 02:34:50 AM
I'm no expert but this wasn't any ordinary automatic weapon that was used.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Matt on October 02, 2017, 02:39:45 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/active-shooter-situation-las-vegas-police-060406234--abc-news-topstories.html


Release says 2 dead more than 20 wounded right now. Musical festival...this is getting old.

What race is the perp?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Super Natural on October 02, 2017, 03:01:02 AM
What race is the perp?

White ...targeting a country music concert....my guess is some crazy anti American leftists? or Antifa terrorists?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The_Punisher on October 02, 2017, 03:02:49 AM
Oh no, not another Mass shooting in the US of A.....anything else in the news?. ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 03:03:32 AM
White ...targeting a country music concert....my guess is some crazy anti American leftists? or Antifa terrorists?

If he's white and targets a country music concert, he must've been one of those Liberal Social Justice Warriors (standing up for the coloreds, since country music represents KKK!), or just really really hated country music...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: gym**rat on October 02, 2017, 03:04:23 AM
Shooter identified as 64 yr old Stephen Paddock.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 02, 2017, 03:06:52 AM
Shooter identified as Steven Paddock.
was in rehab with his cousin, said Steven wasnt a big music fan, especially Country music...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 03:08:26 AM
Shooter identified as 64 yr old Steven Paddock.

What? Was it Steven that did it???

Was always thinking he'd do something crazy , being such a bully to his family as he was...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Matt on October 02, 2017, 03:08:41 AM
White ...targeting a country music concert....my guess is some crazy anti American leftists? or Antifa terrorists?

It would be interesting to do a tally of property damage and crime of leftists at music festivals vs. conservatives at country music festivals.  Somehow, I have a feeling I know how that would look.

was in rehab with his cousin, said Steven wasnt a big music fan, especially Country music...

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 03:11:55 AM
Steven Paddock (who ran away with the Padlock)
(http://azjails.info/images2/STEVEN-PADDOCK-P696111.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Matt on October 02, 2017, 03:13:36 AM
Shooter identified as 64 yr old Steven Stephen Paddock.

Fixed.  :D

It this his information?:

Quote
PADDOCK STEPHEN C
1372 BABBLING BROOK CT
MESQUITE
NV 89034


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 03:16:15 AM
whos Jeff and Eric?

Jeff = Be There. Eric = ESFitness.

Apparently they were caught arguing who would stop the perp and who would post first on Getbig about it.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 03:21:47 AM
What's sad is that Trump-Haters go for innocent Country Music-Lovers.

It's sad that it's innocent Country Music-Lovers that have to be killed just because the Trump-Hater is trying to make a point.

Talk about correlation of peace.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Super Natural on October 02, 2017, 03:24:02 AM
It does not surprise me that it was a low IQ, brain washed, butt hurt Hilary supporter/leftist/SJW. Sadly this type of "revenge" mass shooting was bound to happen sooner or later  :'(

The main stream media, Hollywood  has been ginning up so much hatred towards conservatives.

Constant non stop de-humanization of Trump voters or anyone with a conservative view point...pretty much insinuating they are "Nazis" "KKK" etc.

"de-humanization" -- the 3rd stage of genocide...

Mission accomplished democrat controlled MAIN STREAM MEDIA!  >:(


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Henda on October 02, 2017, 03:26:11 AM
This still counts as black man as the shooter


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 03:27:05 AM
This still counts as black man as the shooter

Goes without saying.


Any Trump-Hater is blacklisted in my book.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Henda on October 02, 2017, 03:30:42 AM
Goes without saying.


Any Trump-Hater is blacklisted in my book.

Agree, was Obama lover as well


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 02, 2017, 03:33:30 AM
Quote
Shots fired at mandalay bay. mass casulty event. confirmed 20+ dead including 2 off duty officers.

can someone please explain the relevance of mentioning that there were two off duty officers?

They were off duty and for all intents and purposes civilians, why don't we mention there were two off duty plumbers killed?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 03:33:56 AM


They identified the shooter as Stephen Paddock.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 03:35:31 AM


LATEST: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay gunman has been identified as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock.

Gunman is 64 year old Stephen Paddock - He was shooting from 32nd floor of hotel - Gunman was shot dead - Police searching for gunman's female companion, Marilou Danley.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 02, 2017, 03:38:54 AM
??? ???

LATEST: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay gunman has been identified as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock.

Gunman is 64 year old Stephen Paddock - He was shooting from 32nd floor of hotel - Gunman was shot dead - Police searching for gunman's female companion, Marilou Danley.

Yeah multiple sources are saying he's the shooter


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 03:42:37 AM
Yeah multiple sources are saying he's the shooter

Maybe since people are looking for Marilou Danley, they found a connection to Greary Danley and since he's a Liberal, assumed he was the shooter because the people were listening to country music (more republicans at venue). But accounts are now saying he is not the shooter. I guess it's best to wait for more information.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: BB on October 02, 2017, 03:43:42 AM
Paddock was the name coming over the scanners a few hours ago. This Geary Danley fellow is the girl's ex-husband. Paddock is the new boyfriend or roommate of some type.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 03:49:31 AM
Paddock was the name coming over the scanners a few hours ago. This Geary Danley fellow is the girl's ex-husband. Paddock is the new boyfriend or roommate of some type.

Yeah, they are saying Geary Danley is an estranged husband. I'm assuming he was not even with this Marilou Danley person.

"Police were actively searching for a woman described as a roommate and traveling companion of Paddock. She was identified as Marilou Danley. She is an Asian woman, about 4 feet, 11 inches tall, weighing about 111 pounds."


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Super Natural on October 02, 2017, 03:49:39 AM
50+ dead 200 injured  :'(


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 03:51:15 AM
Still, one can gather that neither Danley nor Paddock are cat-lovers...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 03:52:57 AM
8 minutes ago

The lone suspect, identified as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, was killed in an engagement with Las Vegas officers, police confirmed in a briefing.

They described the suspect as a "lone wolf" and do not believe there are other suspects involved. Paddock was described as a local of the Las Vegas area and officials do not believe he is connected with terrorism groups.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Spike on October 02, 2017, 03:53:47 AM
Here’s come all the


‘Prayers, praying , prayers sent , “


To start flooding in



Gods there for the good bit ghost when the shit from the fan is spraying ur face


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 03:54:11 AM
Still, one can gather that neither Danley nor Paddock are cat-lovers...

It's tough being wrong. It's okay. Just admit your error and move on. It's best for everyone.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: 2ND COMING on October 02, 2017, 04:05:10 AM
The mass of poor souls huddling together under gun fire = a mix of casualties + family not leaving them to die?

Thats the only explanation I can give, why sit there? RUN


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 04:08:38 AM
Update:

More than 50 dead, 200+ injured!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: herne on October 02, 2017, 04:09:53 AM
Stephen Paddock.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Mitch on October 02, 2017, 04:10:22 AM
doesn't Wiggs live in Vegas? Where are you at, dear flat earther?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: seCrawler on October 02, 2017, 04:12:53 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLIEPOMVYAA7nvH.jpg):large


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 02, 2017, 04:24:05 AM
A couple of GetBiggers on their phones out in the open, while cops are taking position.

(http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/171002095704-22-las-vegas-incident-1002-super-169.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: MAXX on October 02, 2017, 04:25:48 AM
damn..

Jay Cutler alive?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 02, 2017, 04:34:12 AM
http://www.city-data.com/forum/49695435-post24.html


"As you know I am employed there. Just an FYI--One of our officers was shot in the leg.

I have something that needs to be said because it WONT be said by anybody else because it's an "in house" event. In 2016--early in the year, the EXACT same scenario almost played out.

A young man in his early 30's was arrested by police for having a "long range rifle" on a tripod in his room. He had a etched a small hole in the window and was in the process of making his way thru the glass. He was a convicted felon out of California. There were over 4000 rounds of ammo and numerous handguns found in the room as well. He was caught because when he left his room, he neglected to hang the do not disturb sign on his doorknob. Housekeeping came to clean the room and obviously freaked out when they saw the guns. Police were waiting for him when he returned.
Our local news NEEDS to the world what really happens in these casinos.

But then again, if that happens we'd ALL be out of work. Sad sad sad... What a horrible day to live and work in this town."


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 02, 2017, 04:34:53 AM
Sad sad sad day to live in Vegas.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 02, 2017, 04:50:11 AM
To a cultural marxist - the death of 50 conservative americans is a good thing.  Look at what they did to the ethnic europeans in russia - murdered almost every orthodox priest - raped most of the nuns - starved the ukranians to death on purpose..

and they are coming to America now.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: _bruce_ on October 02, 2017, 05:02:57 AM
I assume the shooter was white - which in itself is a crime against enriched humanity according to "our" benevolent overlords.
Enjoy it while it lasts.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 02, 2017, 05:07:48 AM
I assume the shooter was white - which in itself is a crime against enriched humanity according to "our" benevolent overlords.
Enjoy it while it lasts.

The shooter was a cultural marxist.   Someone who either consciously or unconsciously hates whites.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 02, 2017, 05:20:30 AM
RIP to the victims.  I'm going to wait until the facts come out rather than speculating about the motive of the killer.

Horrible shit like this is becoming commonplace now.  Unbelievable.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: 2ND COMING on October 02, 2017, 05:22:55 AM
Typically we know more about the suspect by now. Political leanings, past movements - cock size even. Details are lacking right now.  ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 02, 2017, 05:30:18 AM


Graphic - shooting as it occured

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTs0aZKlYZY


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 02, 2017, 05:33:23 AM
Religion of peace?



Not this time


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 02, 2017, 05:38:45 AM
Witness reports there was an hispanic couple, and the woman was telling concert goers they were all going to die.  The couple were thrown out of the concert because of this...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2017, 05:45:23 AM
A truly fucked up situation. I was in an area where a Jason Aldean concert took place. Really nice crowd. RIP


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 02, 2017, 05:57:56 AM
Well...looks like gun control will be on the table again


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 02, 2017, 06:08:09 AM
The shooter was a cultural marxist.   Someone who either consciously or unconsciously hates whites.

Nah.

10pm for a blue hair is like 2am, sounds more like an extreme "Turn that shit down!"


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: titusisback on October 02, 2017, 06:12:53 AM
Well...looks like gun control will be on the table again

It's really great that everyone has a right to carry a gun to protect themselves against bad guys. Maybe they should make carrying a rifle mandatory for everyone for a situation like this. Like that, no one would ever get shot.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 02, 2017, 06:13:30 AM
Well...looks like gun control will be on the table again
Automatic firearms are already heavily regulated.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 02, 2017, 06:19:18 AM
At least it wasn't a terrorist attack ::)

I fucking hate the term 'Lone Wolf".  Wolves are awesome creatures.

(https://img-aws.ehowcdn.com/877x500p/cache.gettyimages.com/xc/89685915.jpg?v=1&c=EWSAsset&k=2&d=910C62E22B9F47AA16D6D944B04B34156E3920FD8799F10BB8D146D9F09206B0)

Call these fuckers 'Lone Naked Mole Rats"

(https://am24.akamaized.net/tms/cnt/uploads/2012/09/mole-rat.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 02, 2017, 06:21:44 AM
damn..

Jay Cutler alive?

He's fine.  I heard he was first on the scene

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iBQo77PwEww/TTwn9OS_P0I/AAAAAAAAJnY/ZKWzSbXChzw/s1600/jay_cutler_mrOlympia_ifbb_bodybuilder_photoshoot_army_2011_2.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2017, 06:22:15 AM
Nah.

10pm for a blue hair is like 2am, sounds more like an extreme "Turn that shit down!"

And he just happened to have assault rifles handy?

It’s also Las Vegas, not a place where you expect to get to bed early.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 02, 2017, 06:26:54 AM
And he just happened to have assault rifles handy?

It’s also Las Vegas, not a place where you expect to get to bed early.

How did he get a room with the vantage point?  He must have requested a certain floor and view to get it.

I always thought it was weird how Vegas is so opened up with all that money everywhere.  I hope they don't overreact and start throwing in metal detectors.  It already takes a lifetime to check in these days.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SuperTed on October 02, 2017, 06:27:51 AM
Quite rare to see a elderly man do something like this. I tend to associate mass shooters as being relativity young.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 02, 2017, 06:30:38 AM
And he just happened to have assault rifles handy?

It’s also Las Vegas, not a place where you expect to get to bed early.

Ahh, well done.

So it wasn't just the noise, you're saying?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 02, 2017, 06:30:50 AM
Queue the interview with his Neighbors

"He was always quiet, kept to himself"


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: loco on October 02, 2017, 06:31:04 AM
Witness reports there was an hispanic couple, and the woman was telling concert goers they were all going to die.  The couple were thrown out of the concert because of this...

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/CheHigh.jpg/225px-CheHigh.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Ronnie Rep on October 02, 2017, 06:37:12 AM
RIP to the victims.  I'm going to wait until the facts come out rather than speculating about the motive of the killer.

Horrible shit like this is becoming commonplace now.  Unbelievable.
Why start now. The facts never stood in the way of wreckless speculation.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 02, 2017, 06:39:27 AM
Automatic firearms are already heavily regulated.


Not in Nevada...no regulation whatsoever


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2017, 06:41:24 AM
Ahh, well done.

So it wasn't just the noise, you're saying?

It actually sounds a little like the Al Pacino movie Scent of a Woman, but instead of just taking himself out he wanted to take as many as possible with him.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 02, 2017, 06:41:29 AM
People speculating it could've been a bump-fire stock.  No fucking way.  That was an auto AK with large capacity (100 rd) mag.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: BB on October 02, 2017, 06:41:48 AM
Quite rare to see a elderly man do something like this. I tend to associate mass shooters as being relativity young.

We used to get a fair number of older ones here in the States, but they'd usually make it clear as to motive. Most of the older ones were tied to older people that got laid off from work, or they were tied to religious / odd ball government leanings. It certainly has been a young man's game for the last few decades.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: polychronopolous on October 02, 2017, 06:43:22 AM
People speculating it could've been a bump-fire stock.  No fucking way.  That was an auto AK with large capacity (100 rd) mag.

Or in the words of our very own Straw Man a "100 'clip' magazine"


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 02, 2017, 06:44:43 AM
It actually sounds a little like the Al Pacino movie Scent of a Woman, but instead of just taking himself out he wanted to take as many as possible with him.

Maybe it was the type of noise? God knows country ain't for everyone.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 02, 2017, 06:45:30 AM

Not in Nevada...no regulation whatsoever

Wrong.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 02, 2017, 06:47:05 AM
Wrong.

Calling Vince wrong is like calling Wiggs crazy.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: BB on October 02, 2017, 06:52:56 AM

Not in Nevada...no regulation whatsoever

Of course there is, automatic firearms fall under the NFA ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act ). It's Federal, and tied to both the ATF and IRS. There is no way you can legally own a full auto without there being a easily traceable link between the gun and someone.

This is either an illegal conversion or a rifle with a drum or belt attachment and crank attachment most likely -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jif4Wo0LDX8.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Super Natural on October 02, 2017, 06:56:29 AM
Well...looks like gun control will be on the table again

All liberals shouldn’t be allowed to own firearms... that would be a good start.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 07:08:30 AM
Damn, 400 injured!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 07:13:48 AM
Damn, 400 injured!

What weapon was he using again?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 07:18:21 AM
What weapon was he using again?

 ???

And just read that he was not killed by police: took his own life.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: BB on October 02, 2017, 07:23:09 AM
???

And just read that he was not killed by police: took his own life.

One of the things that helped catch him was that all the shooting tripped the fire alarms in the area. Thank goodness for small favors.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 02, 2017, 07:28:35 AM
Damn, 400 injured!


The number will decrease because a lot of them are going to die


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 02, 2017, 07:28:49 AM
At least it wasn't a terrorist attack ::)


Call these fuckers 'Lone Naked Mole Rats"

(https://am24.akamaized.net/tms/cnt/uploads/2012/09/mole-rat.jpg)
Primemuscle needs to put some clothes on.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 02, 2017, 07:30:09 AM
What weapon was he using again?


If I had to guess, an AK-47 with 100 round drums


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2017, 07:31:05 AM
The same guys crying about nfl players kneeling peacefully bitching that the first amendment don't mean shit.

Will now proudly tell everyone this guy is within his 2nd amendment right


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 02, 2017, 07:34:13 AM
Isis is claiming responsibility


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Super Natural on October 02, 2017, 07:45:37 AM
Isis is claiming responsibility

Would not be surprised, Companion of shooter of Indonesian heritage. Indonesia - 87% Muslim. She has relatives in Dubai...

Muslims and Marxist BOTH use deception and violence to further their cause (Destruction of the West).

They are allies


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2017, 07:47:25 AM
The same guys crying about nfl players kneeling peacefully bitching that the first amendment don't mean shit.

Will now proudly tell everyone this guy is within his 2nd amendment right

Chicago has very strict gun laws and out of control gun crime. So, how do you expect to get guns off the street there without resorting to very aggressive policing on a demographic that already believes that it’s being treated unfairly by police?

The reality is that if somebody wants to do something fucked up badly enough they’re going to do it. Let’s not pretend that this guy couldn’t have just as easily rented a truck.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 02, 2017, 07:48:26 AM
Isis is claiming responsibility

Lol.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 02, 2017, 07:49:00 AM
Damn, 400 injured!

Most likely from the stampede trying to exit the venue


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 02, 2017, 08:10:13 AM
why do you care, they cull their own herds.

I regularly disseminate gun vouchers to southside Chicago.  



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 08:22:23 AM
White, with indo muslim scum. Must have converted. Enjoy your beautiful melting pot america.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: HTexan on October 02, 2017, 08:25:49 AM
Hope everyone is praying it's not a white guy.
it is,


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Conker on October 02, 2017, 08:25:57 AM
You're an ignorant son of a bitch.

your anger is aimed in wrong direction. how am i ignorant ? i have been saying on this board for years that unless you do something about your ludicrous gun control laws this kind of thing will just keep on happening, year in, year out.

unfortunately still too many people in america love playing with guns more than they value human life. i said after sandy hook, if that wasn't enough to bring about change, then nothing likely will.

every single person that supports current gun control legislation and helps hinder laws being changed takes a proportion of responsibility every time one of these random massacres occurs. they are the ones of ignorance.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 02, 2017, 08:29:46 AM

Not in Nevada...no regulation whatsoever
that's bullshit. No full auto has been imported to the usa or manufactured since 1986. What ever was produced by that time and in country are called transferable arms and can be purchased after fbi background check, transfer fees etc. There are a very limited number of these and they cost 20k minimum for an m16 (and typically a lot more). On a side note an 07/02 mfr can own and possess full auto but these can not be sold or transfered.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 02, 2017, 08:35:30 AM
White, with indo muslim scum. Must have converted. Enjoy your beautiful melting pot america.

lol. 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Ron on October 02, 2017, 08:36:59 AM
Wow.  First, I am hoping that to my friends, competitors, family and best friends who live in Las Vegas, they are ok.  50+ innocent people is just fucked up, and this gunman and his beliefs scares all of us.  My wife's best friend and family lives in Vegas, and she talked to them this morning, they are fine.
To others that live in that area, and to our friends that work these events, please facebook, or tweet something so many of us will feel better.

Lets concentrate what we know, which is not a lot.

*** Marilou Danley is not believed to be involved with the shooting. She is, "no longer being sought out as a person of interest. Detectives have made contact with her and do not believe she is involved with the shooting on the strip," the police department said in a statement. I am assuming her estranged husband is not involved at all, so no more talk on that guy, it isnt fair on him, regardless on his political views. Also, reports of her not even being in the country.

*** This was planned for a while -->  The shooter had been at the Mandalay Bay hotel since September 28, 2017, the sheriff said. And "there was an excess of 10 rifles in the room."

Anything more factual?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: kevin25 on October 02, 2017, 08:53:36 AM
Maybe it was OJ, and he shot stephen in the room 😬


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 02, 2017, 08:54:06 AM
There were no legal full auto arms used.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 09:00:35 AM
Wow.  First, I am hoping that to my friends, competitors, family and best friends who live in Las Vegas, they are ok.  50+ innocent people is just fucked up, and this gunman and his beliefs scares all of us.  My wife's best friend and family lives in Vegas, and she talked to them this morning, they are fine.
To others that live in that area, and to our friends that work these events, please facebook, or tweet something so many of us will feel better.

Lets concentrate what we know, which is not a lot.

*** Marilou Danley is not believed to be involved with the shooting. She is, "no longer being sought out as a person of interest. Detectives have made contact with her and do not believe she is involved with the shooting on the strip," the police department said in a statement. I am assuming her estranged husband is not involved at all, so no more talk on that guy, it isnt fair on him, regardless on his political views. Also, reports of her not even being in the country.

*** This was planned for a while -->  The shooter had been at the Mandalay Bay hotel since September 28, 2017, the sheriff said. And "there was an excess of 10 rifles in the room."

Anything more factual?

That seems like a very far distance. I assume he would have to have been a pretty good shot. I assume he had formal training.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: phreak on October 02, 2017, 09:02:15 AM
That seems like a very far distance. I assume he would have to have been a pretty good shot. I assume he had formal training.

For sniping it would not be easy, but spray&pray into a large crowd is easy.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 02, 2017, 09:02:41 AM
That seems like a very far distance. I assume he would have to have been a pretty good shot. I assume he had formal training.



It's not that far for a rifle.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 02, 2017, 09:08:58 AM
So dude's girlfriend/ex girl friend/friend/person of interest was out of the country?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 09:18:09 AM
your anger is aimed in wrong direction. how am i ignorant ? i have been saying on this board for years that unless you do something about your ludicrous gun control laws this kind of thing will just keep on happening, year in, year out.

unfortunately still too many people in america love playing with guns more than they value human life. i said after sandy hook, if that wasn't enough to bring about change, then nothing likely will.

every single person that supports current gun control legislation and helps hinder laws being changed takes a proportion of responsibility every time one of these random massacres occurs. they are the ones of ignorance.

Guns aren't the problem, it's the mentally ill and bullshit ideologies that are brought in by mudslimes that get people killed. The gun laws in your country haven't stopped people from dying.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 02, 2017, 09:20:27 AM
How long until the Mandaly charges $3000 a night to stay in the same room?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 02, 2017, 09:22:22 AM
your anger is aimed in wrong direction. how am i ignorant ? i have been saying on this board for years that unless you do something about your ludicrous gun control laws this kind of thing will just keep on happening, year in, year out.

unfortunately still too many people in america love playing with guns more than they value human life. i said after sandy hook, if that wasn't enough to bring about change, then nothing likely will.

every single person that supports current gun control legislation and helps hinder laws being changed takes a proportion of responsibility every time one of these random massacres occurs. they are the ones of ignorance.

There are enough gun laws, enforce those. The second this guy did any conversion of a weapon he became a criminal.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Ron on October 02, 2017, 09:22:56 AM
Guns aren't the problem, it's the mentally ill and bullshit ideoligies that are brought in that get people killed. The gun laws in your country haven't stopped people from dying.

Yes, this will start the gun control and the 2nd amendment rights argument again, not even with any of the facts yet down.  If these are illegal guns, does it matter on gun control? There is another thread for this. Right now, keep this focused.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 09:23:42 AM
Ron is working overtime censoring in this thread.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 02, 2017, 09:27:15 AM
Wow.  First, I am hoping that to my friends, competitors, family and best friends who live in Las Vegas, they are ok.  50+ innocent people is just fucked up, and this gunman and his beliefs scares all of us.  My wife's best friend and family lives in Vegas, and she talked to them this morning, they are fine.
To others that live in that area, and to our friends that work these events, please facebook, or tweet something so many of us will feel better.


What beliefs?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 09:29:51 AM
What beliefs?

Islam.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 02, 2017, 09:30:00 AM
FBI now says shooter has no international terror connections. Does that seem really, really fast for a conclusion or am I crazy here?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 09:31:40 AM
FBI now says shooter has no international terror connections. Does that seem really, really fast for a conclusion or am I crazy here?

Well, he sure didn't do it due to his hatred for Country Music, that's for sure!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 02, 2017, 09:32:58 AM
FBI now says shooter has no international terror connections. Does that seem really, really fast for a conclusion or am I crazy here?
ISIL trying to claim responsibility with no evidence to back it up.
Now let's not think that we have more info than what the FBI is working with and gathering as we speak.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 09:33:59 AM
FBI now says shooter has no international terror connections. Does that seem really, really fast for a conclusion or am I crazy here?

Isis has already released a statement.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Griffith on October 02, 2017, 09:35:25 AM
Isis has already released a statement.

I just read that too.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 02, 2017, 09:35:33 AM
This is terrorism! I'm glad this violent thug is dead. Fucking animal


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 09:37:40 AM
ISIL trying to claim responsibility with no evidence to back it up.
Now let's not think that we have more info than what the FBI is working with and gathering as we speak.

Really...do you think it's just a coincidence that his wife is from a muslim dominated country? You wouldn't be saying that if he wasn't white.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Conker on October 02, 2017, 09:38:01 AM
There are enough gun laws, enforce those. The second this guy did any conversion of a weapon he became a criminal.

you have too many guns in circulation, period. until something is done to drastically reduce that number, these massacres will continue to happen routinely, along with ludicrously high gun crime rates in general.

problem is too many people in your country (for various reasons) will continue to muddy the waters and swear black is white. so once again nothing will be done and it will be business as usual.




Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: musclecenter on October 02, 2017, 09:38:35 AM
according to former IFBB pro Troy Zuccolotto's fb, he and his family were in the concert and staying at Mandalay Bay  , but they ended up leaving Sunday afternoon. God bless, Troy & his family are all safe.  


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 02, 2017, 09:39:54 AM
Islam.

Eh, doesn't fit.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 02, 2017, 09:40:15 AM
Really...do you think it's just a coincidence that his wife is from a muslim dominated country? You wouldn't be saying that if he wasn't white.
Where is the woman from?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Conker on October 02, 2017, 09:41:20 AM
FBI now says shooter has no international terror connections. Does that seem really, really fast for a conclusion or am I crazy here?

i would guess they've already checked out his log of digital communications which would throw up anything that would suggest whether or not it's likely that he has any terrorist links.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 09:42:09 AM
This is terrorism! I'm glad this violent thug is dead. Fucking animal

Go help your "community". Btw, black people cracking jokes better look at islam's history and how they currently treat blacks even when they are muslims. Look up the word for black in arabic.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 09:45:20 AM
you have too many guns in circulation, period. until something is done to drastically reduce that number, these massacres will continue to happen routinely, along with ludicrously high gun crime rates in general.

problem is too many people in your country (for various reasons) will continue to muddy the waters and swear black is white. so once again nothing will be done and it will be business as usual.




And tell me conker, who is responsible for that high gun murder rate?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: gym**rat on October 02, 2017, 09:51:17 AM
This end section of the building has one large room call Vista Suites per floor. I actually rented it about 9 years ago for my daughter's wedding reception. It has a 180 degree panaoramic view. It cost me about $750 a night to rent but was cheaper than renting a hall or something like that. We were on the 30-something floor but I don't know exactly which. I found some pics from the party but none that shows what floor. These rooms are over 1,700 square foot. He went out in style, thats for sure.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637298.0;attach=745984;image)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 02, 2017, 10:02:30 AM
Do we need to post more numbers and graphs from the fbi again? Half of you are in jail, the other half is reponsible for 50% of the murders in this country. Now take the fact that only half of the black population is female then look at how many black men are incarcerated. Basically those numbers of murders are being commited by a population who are in the single digits. Pretty scary huh?

It's easily explainable.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 10:03:38 AM
i would guess they've already checked out his log of digital communications which would throw up anything that would suggest whether or not it's likely that he has any terrorist links.

They don't release info like that very soon after stuff like this happens anymore.  Isis doesn't take credit for killings it had no involvement in. If so, give an example.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Conker on October 02, 2017, 10:06:43 AM
And tell me conker, who is responsible for that high gun murder rate?

it's irrelevant. the reason the US has these problems with gun crime is solely due to the amount of guns in circulations. it is no coincidence that the majority of the rest of the developed has hardly any guns in circulation (in comparison) and has very little problem with gun crime
it's so obvious a 4 year could work it out.

but yeh you will get the usual old BS arguments why reducing gun ownership won't help. hey ho , stupid people don't learn from their mistakes.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 02, 2017, 10:06:55 AM
Not legal full auto and again modifications are criminal. Criminals dont care. He could have run a semi into the crowd, then what? Ban big trucks?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 02, 2017, 10:09:07 AM
Take arms away from citizens and only criminals have them


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 10:09:42 AM
Apparently there was also a woman, killers "roommate", who warned that people were going to die about 40 mins before the attack, and the beginning of the concert.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 02, 2017, 10:10:30 AM
it's irrelevant. the reason the US has these problems with gun crime is solely due to the amount of guns in circulations. it is no coincidence that the majority of the rest of the developed has hardly any guns in circulation (in comparison) and has very little problem with gun crime
it's so obvious a 4 year could work it out.

but yeh you will get the usual old BS arguments why reducing gun ownership won't help. hey ho , stupid people don't learn from their mistakes.


Lol.

Lack of guns has really prevented the U.K. from experiencing any terror.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 02, 2017, 10:11:04 AM
They don't release info like that very soon after stuff like this happens anymore.  Isis doesn't take credit for killings it had no involvement in. If so, give an example.
As far as we know, he has no involvement. ISIS has provided no proof. And the FBI as well as other agencies have said that there is no proof, no "leakage" as of right now.

Of course they have:
Quote
IS claimed responsibility for an attack on a casino in the Philippines that killed dozens of people earlier this year, but police later identified the attacker as a heavily indebted Filipino gambling addict, saying it was a botched robbery that was not terrorism-related.

 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 02, 2017, 10:11:43 AM

Lol.

Lack of guns has really prevented the U.K. from experiencing any terror.

Owned


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2017, 10:12:03 AM
The brother said their father was a bank robber and at one pointed made it to the FBI's top 10 most wanted list


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 02, 2017, 10:14:06 AM
Take arms away from citizens and only criminals have them

This is clever, you should totally own the trademark.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on October 02, 2017, 10:16:02 AM
how could he injure so many people ?

Did he use a rifle?

fucked up :-/


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 02, 2017, 10:17:05 AM
This is clever, you should totally own the trademark.
ok I'll do that thanks.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 02, 2017, 10:17:17 AM
Apparently there was also a woman, killers "roommate", who warned that people were going to die about 40 mins before the attack, and the beginning of the concert.


Pretty hard for it to be her when his companion was actually out of the country.... ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 10:20:36 AM

Pretty hard for it to be her when his companion was actually out of the country.... ::)

Vince, you're on top of this story.

Wonder who this person was!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 10:21:46 AM
As far as we know, he has no involvement. ISIS has provided no proof. And the FBI as well as other agencies have said that there is no proof, no "leakage" as of right now.

Of course they have:

Give an example.

As far as any links to terrorism, we'll just have to wait.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 02, 2017, 10:26:53 AM
Give an example.

As far as any links to terrorism, we'll just have to wait. Muslim terrorist or Trump hater it's still a win.
I just did
 http://www.theadvocate.com/nation_world/article_8aa993e2-a77e-11e7-ad88-2f79cc18f1aa.html (http://www.theadvocate.com/nation_world/article_8aa993e2-a77e-11e7-ad88-2f79cc18f1aa.html)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html  (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html)
https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/philippines-manila-casino-resort-attack-shooting-isis-claims-responsibility-terrorism-robbery-a7769511.html%3Famp  (https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/philippines-manila-casino-resort-attack-shooting-isis-claims-responsibility-terrorism-robbery-a7769511.html%3Famp)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 02, 2017, 10:27:22 AM
how could he injure so many people ?

Did he use a rifle?

fucked up :-/

Used an auto and sprayed the crowd.  There were 22k at the concert so could have been worse.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: residue on October 02, 2017, 10:30:29 AM
Give an example.

As far as any links to terrorism, we'll just have to wait.
2 examples

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/philippine-police-casino-attacker-indebted-gambler-170604042720000.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-claim-charles-de-gaulle-11221466


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: loco on October 02, 2017, 10:34:29 AM
how could he injure so many people ?

Did he use a rifle?

fucked up :-/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IIYjhtDl9U


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 02, 2017, 10:38:18 AM
Used an auto and sprayed the crowd.  There were 22k at the concert so could have been worse.
illegally converted not legally purchased (cost alone would have prohibited this)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: MAXX on October 02, 2017, 10:41:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IIYjhtDl9U
something like that  :-\ Except he probably didn't use 20mm bullets


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 02, 2017, 10:45:40 AM
something like that  :-\ Except he probably didn't use 20mm bullets

That's a browning m2 .50 cal bmg, not 20mm.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 10:45:46 AM
I just did
 http://www.theadvocate.com/nation_world/article_8aa993e2-a77e-11e7-ad88-2f79cc18f1aa.html (http://www.theadvocate.com/nation_world/article_8aa993e2-a77e-11e7-ad88-2f79cc18f1aa.html)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.CNN.com/CNN/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html  (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html)
https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.UK/news/world/asia/philippines-manila-casino-resort-attack-shooting-isis-claims-responsibility-terrorism-robbery-a7769511.html%3Famp  (https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/philippines-manila-casino-resort-attack-shooting-isis-claims-responsibility-terrorism-robbery-a7769511.html%3Famp)

Well, you have one example, but after all the attacks they've carried out that isn't too convincing. I'm to lazy to search to see if that statement was official or from the small number in the Philippines. Mateen pledged allegiance to isis before the killings in Florida but that doesn't mean he had contact with actual members.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 02, 2017, 10:50:01 AM
Do we know yet how this guy felt about cats? Certainly could help explain motive.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 02, 2017, 10:54:44 AM
That's a browning m2 .50 cal bmg, not 20mm.

Sounds like it but rather large to sneak into a hotel.

Maybe this judging by sound.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXUlLIeNT6A


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 02, 2017, 10:57:17 AM
Well, you have one example, but after all the attacks they've carried out that isn't too convincing. I'm to lazy to search to see if that statement was official or from the small number in the Philippines. Mateen pledged allegiance to isis before the killings in Florida but that doesn't mean he had contact with actual members.
Its a tactic that ISIS is using. Claim every tragic shooting as theirs. It serves several purposes. It gives them notoriety, makes them seem more important than they are. It causes confusion, and allows people like you to go, "Oh ISIS claimed responsibility, so it's a Muslim", thus creating more edginess amongst the populace. They know that creating tension within the West is a good tool, because the left will claim Islamophobia, and the right will go off with their rhetoric. And no one will realize that they are being played for fools.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 11:19:54 AM
Maybe he does not have allegiance to ISIS, but instead is linked to the Flat Earthers, or maybe the Cat-lovers.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 02, 2017, 11:28:00 AM
You know 58 people are dead and a few hundred wounded, some of you assholes need to put the sarcasm and trolling to the side for a bit and fuck off


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2017, 11:44:41 AM
Sounds like it but rather large to sneak into a hotel.

Maybe this judging by sound.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXUlLIeNT6A

Why?

People are constantly coming into hotels with large suitcases.


(http://www.suitcase.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/A-Saks-31-Expandable-Rolling-Trolley-Duffel-0.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The_Punisher on October 02, 2017, 11:46:03 AM
You know 58 people are dead and a few hundred wounded, some of you assholes need to put the sarcasm and trolling to the side for a bit and fuck off

 :(


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 02, 2017, 11:48:32 AM
Maybe he does not have allegiance to ISIS, but instead is linked to the Flat Earthers, or maybe the Cat-lovers.

or maybe "Team Upright Row"


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: macgyver on October 02, 2017, 11:50:51 AM
Another anti peaceful loving Trump hater.

My guess, and I bet I'm right.  :-\


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 02, 2017, 11:51:28 AM
Why?

People are constantly coming into hotels with large suitcases.


(http://www.suitcase.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/A-Saks-31-Expandable-Rolling-Trolley-Duffel-0.jpg)

I fired one often in the military and just seems awkward but that's a possibility. Either way the coward pos had something high powered to mow people down. :-\


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: chaos on October 02, 2017, 11:52:21 AM
You know 58 people are dead and a few hundred wounded, some of you assholes need to put the sarcasm and trolling to the side for a bit and fuck off
It's insane. Already politicians are in the media screaming about gun control. Nobody is mourning, only using events like this to further their political agendas.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 02, 2017, 11:52:34 AM
or maybe "Team Upright Row"

If his lats were shredded then that is highly possible.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 02, 2017, 11:58:29 AM
It's insane. Already politicians are in the media screaming about gun control. Nobody is mourning, only using events like this to further their political agendas.
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never mind all the cover ups that will happen here to feed both agendas.

the feds will set the narrative for this guy and the politicians and sheep will run with it.

the only thing that matters is that 58 people are dead and a few hundred injured...their crime...wanting to enjoy a nice evening out listening to their favourite musicians


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Spike on October 02, 2017, 11:58:44 AM
maybe if Jason Aldean was more of a badass this could of been avoided



fat boy just took off, then released a statement saying his fat ass was ok


should of been been more informative with a live PA system , but Im sure he's sending 'prayers' every min


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 02, 2017, 11:58:57 AM
My guess?  It was an AR-15, with a completely legal Slide Fire Stock.  What now?   ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvLt8-Wf7r0


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2017, 12:03:45 PM
maybe if Jason Aldean was more of a badass this could of been avoided



fat boy just took off, then released a statement saying his fat ass was ok


should of been been more informative with a live PA system , but Im sure he's sending 'prayers' every min

To be fair, it’s impossible to be prepared for such a thing. That said, the tone of the statement really was wrong. It came across as though he was more concerned about himself and his crew than with the people who actually died. He should’ve mentioned them first.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: residue on October 02, 2017, 12:19:56 PM
You know 58 people are dead and a few hundred wounded, some of you assholes need to put the sarcasm and trolling to the side for a bit and fuck off

why? would serious posting bring that back to life?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 02, 2017, 12:26:47 PM
why? would serious posting bring that back to life?

We won't know until we try.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Spike on October 02, 2017, 12:34:54 PM
To be fair, it’s impossible to be prepared for such a thing. That said, the tone of the statement really was wrong. It came across as though he was more concerned about himself and his crew than with the people who actually died. He should’ve mentioned them first.


exactly



but I kind of expect all those country folk to act that way in a sense.



its like 'center of attention' all the time deal - same premise driving a huge ass loud truck to work on the highway and you sell car parts and never haul shit in your truck, or gettting drunk and having to be loud and announce to others you're  inebriated, like its a celebration for everyone you want to get fcked up


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 02, 2017, 01:04:13 PM
Surprising there is not a #32 OJ Simpson conspiracy tied-in to his Oct 1st release date from a Nevada prison and the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay in Nevada on Oct 1.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 01:08:21 PM
People are assuming it's automatic gun fire but he was probably using a crank if it indeed was fully auto than he either has a class 3 license which is doubtful or somehow had it converted. 100 round drum and a crank is what I'm guessing.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 02, 2017, 01:10:03 PM
illegally converted not legally purchased (cost alone would have prohibited this)

People are saying he was playing hi limits slots for two days spending thousands.
So clearly he wasn't poor.

My beautiful Vegas...my home.
This is going to impact our economy worse than the housing crash a few years ago.
I can't watch those videos anymore hearing the shots. People were just sitting there waiting to die. They never saw it coming.

I can't believe this happened. I saw about 5 or 6 people crying their eyes out in the gym this morning.
It got to me too---I just got in my car and left.
Mandalay is one of the casino's you CAN'T miss when u see the strip. Your eyes go right to it because it's sooo huge.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 01:10:34 PM
My guess?  It was an AR-15, with a completely legal Slide Fire Stock.  What now?   ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvLt8-Wf7r0

Shit, I didn't even know about those.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Spike on October 02, 2017, 01:11:17 PM
People are assuming it's automatic gun fire but he was probably using a crank if it indeed was fully auto than he either has a class 3 license which is doubtful or somehow had it converted. 100 round drum and a crank is what I'm guessing.


ive meet a handful of people with class 3 paperwork , mainly for silencers and whatnot but have seen it


extensive and expensive - head of ATF in your countys/ states signature, background checks, etc




Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 02, 2017, 01:13:59 PM
Also...he  sued the Cosmo for a slip and fall...didn't win in court.
So he might have sour grapes against the casino industry???

ALso--the news JUST said he lost THOUSANDS on Friday night playing video poker.
300$ a hand---playing multiple machines at once.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2017, 01:20:51 PM
It's no wonder he was in that large expensive suite , wonder if Mandalay Bay comped him the room from all the gambling he was doing.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2017, 01:27:51 PM
It's no wonder he was in that large expensive suite , wonder if Mandalay Bay comped him the room from all the gambling he was doing.

This seems more preplanned. Unless the guy was completely insane he had to know that he was either going to spend the rest of his life in jail or be taken out. So; maxing out his credit card wasn’t an issue.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Board_SHERIF on October 02, 2017, 01:43:28 PM
could care less...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 02, 2017, 01:46:31 PM
could care less...

Two trannies were gunned down.


Change your stance?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Board_SHERIF on October 02, 2017, 01:50:00 PM
Two trannies were gunned down.


Change your stance?

Its only skin, so no.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 02, 2017, 01:53:46 PM
People are assuming it's automatic gun fire but he was probably using a crank if it indeed was fully auto than he either has a class 3 license which is doubtful or somehow had it converted. 100 round drum and a crank is what I'm guessing.

Slide Fire! 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: gym**rat on October 02, 2017, 01:54:46 PM
I spent the day in that same room type as mentioned prior. It was between floors 31-34, cannot remember. I do not remember the windows being able to open. The windows went from the floor to the ceiling and around 10' high ceilings. You can see downtown Las Vegas from that view. It was beautiful. Perplexed how he was able to fire from there. I have not read every post either though.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 01:57:13 PM
Slide Fire! 

I think you're right.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: loco on October 02, 2017, 01:58:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY3BBMYJqEo


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Conker on October 02, 2017, 02:02:27 PM
I spent the day in that same room type as mentioned prior. It was between floors 31-34, cannot remember. I do not remember the windows being able to open. The windows went from the floor to the ceiling and around 10' high ceilings. You can see downtown Las Vegas from that view. It was beautiful. Perplexed how he was able to fire from there. I have not read every post either though.

i heard something on news from witness staying in same hotel that they heard and saw glass breaking and falling, he must have shot the glass out.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Redux on October 02, 2017, 02:07:08 PM
Modified AR-15
Will be interesting to hear what the people in the hotel rooms next to his heard.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 02, 2017, 02:16:09 PM
just throwing it out there but could this be another false flag with the lone gunman theory

something smells rotten about the firing from the 32nd floor


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 02:34:00 PM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/a28be1bc4cb348d7c285de102acbb1a0/tumblr_ox7suw5GLp1wd3uyro1_500.png)

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/7d340767d8bcd65315f21b7ca79c71ca/tumblr_ox7sudxSs81wd3uyro1_540.png)

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/bf71e2e1b113247c45ebe00653274d1b/tumblr_ox7ssyTdpb1wd3uyro1_500.jpg)

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/e5412c37f3e50341d52b41753875a6f0/tumblr_ox7ssegiT01wd3uyro1_540.jpg)
 ;D

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/aa196e60655d1166ed4c2093bb74ac2f/tumblr_ox7stnabDc1wd3uyro1_500.jpg)

Liberals....


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 02:39:36 PM
Brother of shooter:

The brother of the man who police say killed at least 58 people and injured about 515 said his family is "dumbfounded" by details of the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

"We can’t understand what happened," said Eric Paddock, brother of Stephen Paddock, identified by authorities in Las Vegas as the gunman who opened fire from a hotel room during a nearby outdoor concert.

Eric Paddock said his brother was never an "avid gun guy" and didn't have any background in the military.

Eric Paddock also said there is "no reason" the family could imagine his brother carrying out this massacre, reports the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "It's like an asteroid just fell on top of our family."

A motive for this shooting has not been determined at this point.

The last time Eric Paddock spoke to his brother was after Hurricane Irma, when his brother texted to check on their mom. Eric believes their mother was the last one to speak with Stephen Paddock.

"There's absolutely no way I can even conceive that my brother would shoot a bunch of people he didn't even know," Eric Paddock said. "There's no rationale. There's nothing anywhere that said why he did this."


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 02, 2017, 02:46:32 PM
Brother of shooter:

The brother of the man who police say killed at least 58 people and injured about 515 said his family is "dumbfounded" by details of the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

"We can’t understand what happened," said Eric Paddock, brother of Stephen Paddock, identified by authorities in Las Vegas as the gunman who opened fire from a hotel room during a nearby outdoor concert.

Eric Paddock said his brother was never an "avid gun guy" and didn't have any background in the military.

Eric Paddock also said there is "no reason" the family could imagine his brother carrying out this massacre, reports the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "It's like an asteroid just fell on top of our family."

A motive for this shooting has not been determined at this point.

The last time Eric Paddock spoke to his brother was after Hurricane Irma, when his brother texted to check on their mom. Eric believes their mother was the last one to speak with Stephen Paddock.

"There's absolutely no way I can even conceive that my brother would shoot a bunch of people he didn't even know," Eric Paddock said. "There's no rationale. There's nothing anywhere that said why he did this."


I think most people would say the same thing if their brother did it...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 02, 2017, 02:50:15 PM
Hopefully some good comes out of this tragedy. Ritzy hotels need to pony up for airline-type security now. Armed guards and xray machines.

It sucks......but that is the way it has to be now. You shouldn't be able to sneak an automatic rifle into a prominent hotel.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Conker on October 02, 2017, 02:52:17 PM
Modified AR-15
Will be interesting to hear what the people in the hotel rooms next to his heard.

gunfire?  ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eric2 on October 02, 2017, 02:53:26 PM
Brother of shooter:

The brother of the man who police say killed at least 58 people and injured about 515 said his family is "dumbfounded" by details of the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

"We can’t understand what happened," said Eric Paddock, brother of Stephen Paddock, identified by authorities in Las Vegas as the gunman who opened fire from a hotel room during a nearby outdoor concert.

Eric Paddock said his brother was never an "avid gun guy" and didn't have any background in the military.

Eric Paddock also said there is "no reason" the family could imagine his brother carrying out this massacre, reports the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "It's like an asteroid just fell on top of our family."

A motive for this shooting has not been determined at this point.

The last time Eric Paddock spoke to his brother was after Hurricane Irma, when his brother texted to check on their mom. Eric believes their mother was the last one to speak with Stephen Paddock.

"There's absolutely no way I can even conceive that my brother would shoot a bunch of people he didn't even know," Eric Paddock said. "There's no rationale. There's nothing anywhere that said why he did this."


What the fucks up with all the red?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 02, 2017, 02:54:15 PM
Hopefully some good comes out of this tragedy. Ritzy hotels need to pony up for airline-type security now. Armed guards and xray machines.

It sucks......but that is the way it has to be now. You shouldn't be able to sneak an automatic rifle into a prominent hotel.
wasnt it 10 guns?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 02, 2017, 02:54:47 PM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/a28be1bc4cb348d7c285de102acbb1a0/tumblr_ox7suw5GLp1wd3uyro1_500.png)


Is that real?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 02, 2017, 02:55:11 PM
wasnt it 10 guns?
Agreed. Even worse.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 02, 2017, 02:55:35 PM
wasnt it 10 guns?
17 guns


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 02:56:23 PM
What the fucks up with all the red?

Because I felt like it.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 02, 2017, 02:56:42 PM
17 guns

could you have got all those in up your ass...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 02:58:56 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-02/chilling-warning-shooting-attack-you-are-all-going-die


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 02:59:13 PM
I think most people would say the same thing if their brother did it...

Not necessarily. After mass shootings, when family members are interviewed, they have often (not always) give some indication about the shooters life--depressed, past suicidal attempts, etc. Something that may give some indication about a motive or not. This guy seemed totally oblivious. I wonder how often he talked with his brother.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 02, 2017, 03:02:32 PM
Not necessarily. After mass shootings, when family members are interviewed, they have often (not always) give some indication about the shooters life--depressed, past suicidal attempts, etc. Something that may give some indication about a motive or not. This guy seemed totally oblivious. I wonder how often he talked with his brother.



there are no indications in someones life that would suggest they were going to open fire on hundreds of people with multiple machine guns unless they had done something similar before.

Lots of people show signs of odd behaviour but that is just beyond the pail.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 02, 2017, 03:09:13 PM
i would guess they've already checked out his log of digital communications which would throw up anything that would suggest whether or not it's likely that he has any terrorist links.



Well, I'll call bullshit on a 12 hour mass murder investigation. They never state anything with great certainty this early. How would they even know they were aware of all his channels of communication in that short period of time? Fishy.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 03:09:40 PM
there are no indications in someones life that would suggest they were going to open fire on hundreds of people with multiple machine guns unless they had done something similar before.

Lots of people show signs of odd behaviour but that is just beyond the pail.

Sure, there are no studies that can exactly pinpoint when someone is going to use multiple machine guns to open fire from a 32nd floor window. However, there is strong evidence to suggest that certain variables (risk factors) may increase the chance of violent behavior. Now, how that violence is manifested GREATLY VARIES depending on the person. You cannot make any definitive conclusions because human behavior is too complex; nonetheless, we have a general idea of what factors increase the chance of extreme violent behavior; but of course, there is no definitive causal mechanisms. Some studies have already been conducted on the risk factors that may increase the chance of a mass shooting.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 02, 2017, 03:15:46 PM
Sure, there are no studies that can exactly pinpoint when someone is going to use multiple machine guns to open fire from a 32nd floor window. However, there is strong evidence to suggest that certain variables may increase the chance of violent behavior. Now, how that violence is manifested GREATLY VARIES depending on the person. You cannot make any definitive conclusions because human behavior is too complex; nonetheless, we have a general idea of what factors increase the chance of extreme violent behavior; but of course, there is no definitive causal mechanisms.
Yeah, and you can find some of them on the politics board.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2017, 03:29:40 PM
 (https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/22236131_1431997516835818_181181316_n.jpg?oh=5cfd666cd6cba373a79e20deda11c6cf&oe=59D5412C)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 03:30:52 PM
Remember the shooting at the republican congressional baseball game? He was also an anti trump liberal and anti gun as well.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2017, 03:31:52 PM
 I'll link this one so that only those that want to see it will


This is extremely graphic

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/22193099_1431997483502488_1439840341_n.jpg?oh=6a8cac874ce26d3e972bc67c014f6a3a&oe=59D52D4C (https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/22193099_1431997483502488_1439840341_n.jpg?oh=6a8cac874ce26d3e972bc67c014f6a3a&oe=59D52D4C)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2017, 03:35:24 PM
Of course the media isn't saying anything.

This morning, I turned on Bloomberg and watched it for quite a while and didn’t hear anything about the shooting and then I turned on Fox and they were covering it wall-to-wall. Mike Bloomberg spoke at the Democratic convention.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Conker on October 02, 2017, 03:35:51 PM


Well, I'll call bullshit on a 12 hour mass murder investigation. They never state anything with great certainty this early. How would they even know they were aware of all his channels of communication in that short period of time? Fishy.

i think you'd be surprised how quickly an organisation like the fbi will work on a crime of this magnitude. no doubt will have a couple dosen or more people simultaneously sifting through his life. going through his computers, phones, speaking to friends, family, neighbours. and terrorists that plan on killing themselves don't generally bother covering their tracks. usually the complete opposite.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2017, 03:38:21 PM
59 dead,  527 injured


http://fortune.com/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting-mandalay-bay-mgm-stock/ (http://fortune.com/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting-mandalay-bay-mgm-stock/)


The Owner of Mandalay Bay Lost Almost a Billion Dollars in Value After the Las Vegas Shooting


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: che on October 02, 2017, 03:41:17 PM
Of course the media isn't saying anything.

STFU ,  you are the biggest retard on this board,

Out before

''Hey, you freedom-hating douchebag, if you're going to burn our flag, wrap yourself in it first.''
''When you stop being an unhinged, terrorist-coddling ecoweenie, that'll be change we can believe in.''
''Did they teach you how to be an insane, flag-hating freak show in the socialist reeducation camp?''


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
Remember the shooting at the republican congressional baseball game? He was also an anti trump liberal and anti gun as well.

You literally can’t overstate the level of derangement the Trump win caused. I started a thread about it a week after the election and it just hasn’t let up. If anything these people have gotten worse.

Read strawman’s posts on the political board. It’s as though his every thought from morning until night every day is about Trump.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2017, 03:44:32 PM
ex-military friend of mine said you can clearly hear 2 guns firing at the same time, and sounds like its coming from different locations in the videos

can any other getbig gun experts notice that ?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 02, 2017, 03:44:49 PM
i think you'd be surprised how quickly an organisation like the fbi will work on a crime of this magnitude. no doubt will have a dosen or more people simultaneously sifting through his life. going through his computers, phones, speaking to friends, family, neighbours. and terrorists that plan on killing themselves don't generally bother covering their tracks. usually the complete opposite.


I would be surprised, yes. I already covered that. Example...anyone can go to the library and use a secret hotmail email addy or facebook and buy a burner phone. That's not a 12 hour discovery.

They are saying 500 people injured now. It will be interesting how the story actually comes out after the appropriate amount of time has passed. A lot of loose ends. Heard he also worked for Lockheed and had Antifa stuff in his room. Is it true, are they going to dispel that or will it just be case closed in a day?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 02, 2017, 03:48:25 PM
ex-military friend of mine said you can clearly hear 2 guns firing at the same time, and sounds like its coming from different locations in the videos

can any other getbig gun experts notice that ?


Even if you spend a lot of time at the range you can hear stuff...there could be a lot of echo and with the amount of rounds going out hard to say. Considering his brother claims he had no gun knowledge or military background at 64 years old that's a lot of fire going on.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 03:51:19 PM
STFU ,  you are the biggest retard on this board,

Out before

''Hey, you freedom-hating douchebag, if you're going to burn our flag, wrap yourself in it first.''
''When you stop being an unhinged, terrorist-coddling ecoweenie, that'll be change we can believe in.''
''Did they teach you how to be an insane, flag-hating freak show in the socialist reeducation camp?''

Triggered.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 03:55:31 PM
STFU ,  you are the biggest retard on this board,

Out before

''Hey, you freedom-hating douchebag, if you're going to burn our flag, wrap yourself in it first.''
''When you stop being an unhinged, terrorist-coddling ecoweenie, that'll be change we can believe in.''
''Did they teach you how to be an insane, flag-hating freak show in the socialist reeducation camp?''

More retarded than dj181 and shizzo?
 :'(


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2017, 03:58:17 PM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLU-oq2A4mw


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Yamcha on October 02, 2017, 03:58:59 PM
O'hearn told the punk he was on his way up 34 flights of stairs, so the guy killed himself



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Conker on October 02, 2017, 03:59:45 PM

I would be surprised, yes. I already covered that. Example...anyone can go to the library and use a secret hotmail email addy or facebook and buy a burner phone. That's not a 12 hour discovery.

They are saying 500 people injured now. It will be interesting how the story actually comes out after the appropriate amount of time has passed. A lot of loose ends. Heard he also worked for Lockheed and had Antifa stuff in his room. Is it true, are they going to dispel that or will it just be case closed in a day?


well i guess the fbi have had quite a bit of experience dealing with crimes such as this, some terror related, most not. i guess they have a feel for it by now(for want of a better way of putting it). and as i said in terror cases where gunman plans to kill themselves they're generally not trying to cover up their motive, it kind of defeats the whole purpose of terrorism if you leave no clues as to your motive.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The_Punisher on October 02, 2017, 04:10:48 PM
O'hearn told the punk he was on his way up 34 flights of stairs, so the guy killed himself



 Mike is looking quite small these days


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 02, 2017, 04:56:58 PM
ex-military friend of mine said you can clearly hear 2 guns firing at the same time, and sounds like its coming from different locations in the videos

can any other getbig gun experts notice that ?

Yes sounds like overlap 5:59

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b97_1506931823


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 02, 2017, 05:20:57 PM
I only hear one rifle, and a lot of echos.   ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 02, 2017, 05:28:01 PM
People are assuming it's automatic gun fire but he was probably using a crank if it indeed was fully auto than he either has a class 3 license which is doubtful or somehow had it converted. 100 round drum and a crank is what I'm guessing.

or he modified  (being a criminal before becoming a murderer).


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 02, 2017, 05:43:02 PM
or he modified  (being a criminal before becoming a murderer).

Agreed.  An AR or AK can be converted to full auto with a dremel tool, in about 2 minutes.  If this guy knew what he was doing, he may have had 10 converted auto rifles.   :-\


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: stuntmovie on October 02, 2017, 05:45:44 PM
This may have already been mentioned  but it seems a bit strange to me that hotels and casinos and large assembly halls are not equipped with some form of detection device to avoid this sort of shit.

I did not attend the Floyd/Conor fight but I am pretty damn sure that everyone had to walk through a device to prevent the admission of weapons of any sort.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 02, 2017, 05:52:51 PM
This may have already been mentioned  but it seems a bit strange to me that hotels and casinos and large assembly halls are not equipped with some form of detection device to avoid this sort of shit.

I did not attend the Floyd/Conor fight but I am pretty damn sure that everyone had to walk through a device to prevent the admission of weapons of any sort.

People travel with rifles all the time.  Why shouldn't they be allowed to take them up to their room?  Avid hunters have 2 to 5 thousand dollar rifles.  Are they supposed to leave them in their vehicles?   ???  I see no problem with taking firearms into hotels. 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pet shop boys on October 02, 2017, 06:01:29 PM
People travel with rifles all the time.  Why shouldn't they be allowed to take them up to their room?  Avid hunters have 2 to 5 thousand dollar rifles.  Are they supposed to leave them in their vehicles?   ???  I see no problem with taking firearms into hotels.  

Until it happens to you



WooSHHHHHH  LE VRO NE EEEEEEEEEEEEEE


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: gib on October 02, 2017, 06:12:35 PM
Shame on every single American coward gun supporter. You idiots, biggots and cowards let this happen with your oh so prescious "right to bare arms".

Shame on all of you. You (once again) have the blood of many innocent and beautiful lives on your hands :(


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2017, 06:21:24 PM
Sounded like full-auto. Could be been bump-firing with a simple stock conversion. No FFL needed.

Also sounded like 2 guns firing at the same time... Maybe from desperate locations. Couldve been the sound bouncing back though as well.. But definitely sounded like overlapping fire iat certain times

Also, sounded like AK fire. Not AR/223

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29evY77S13M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_SWefYWKw0



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2017, 06:23:09 PM
The gun control morons tend to forget there's a very large country just to the south of us called Mexico where all guns are illegal as well as the bullets.

Look how that's been working out.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 02, 2017, 06:26:58 PM
I'm afraid of these types of people. I think I will stay inside. I wont go to any concerts, schools, malls, churches...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 02, 2017, 06:34:53 PM
I'm afraid of these types of people. I think I will stay inside. I wont go to any concerts, schools, malls, churches...

It's also safe for the populace considering you're much more likely to victimize people than most.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: gib on October 02, 2017, 07:05:35 PM
The gun control morons tend to forget there's a very large country just to the south of us called Mexico where all guns are illegal as well as the bullets.

Look how that's been working out.

What an idiot comment. The killings in Mexico also make use of ... you guessed it ... GUNS!

If we collect all the guns, punish more severely for possession, and start imposing more death penalties for crimes, this would obviously help. Being liberal pussies and to weak to enforceme anything will not.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: airosol on October 02, 2017, 07:12:20 PM
Some fat white "accountant" did the recon, got the guns, modified them, and killed 60? Horse shit!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eric2 on October 02, 2017, 07:32:33 PM
People travel with rifles all the time.  Why shouldn't they be allowed to take them up to their room?  Avid hunters have 2 to 5 thousand dollar rifles.  Are they supposed to leave them in their vehicles?   ???  I see no problem with taking firearms into hotels. 

I sure do, especially in a place like Vegas where drugs and booze are a common factor. At the very least they could check them into a secure lockdown safe somewhere with hotel security.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Marty Champions on October 02, 2017, 07:40:33 PM
love how jared rodrigiz gave not a single fuck about lieing about being natty for all those years


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: TTfit on October 02, 2017, 07:46:03 PM
Unacceptable. No one should ever feel scared to go to Vegas but after seeing how easily that guy was able to smash out that window even I have my reservations. Trump won't even acknowledge this guy is a terrorist ffs.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: jude2 on October 02, 2017, 07:47:00 PM
Some fat white "accountant" did the recon, got the guns, modified them, and killed 60? Horse shit!
Agreed. They are not telling us something.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 02, 2017, 07:54:09 PM
Agreed.  An AR or AK can be converted to full auto with a dremel tool, in about 2 minutes.  If this guy knew what he was doing, he may have had 10 converted auto rifles.   :-\
you ain't milling that trigger pocket w a dremel on an ar. But someone with knowhow and a mill cam do it but again you are a criminal when you do this. And then you need the coorect trigger parts to do the conversion. Not impossible but difficult.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 02, 2017, 07:56:50 PM
What an idiot comment. The killings in Mexico also make use of ... you guessed it ... GUNS!

If we collect all the guns, punish more severely for possession, and start imposing more death penalties for crimes, this would obviously help. Being liberal pussies and to weak to enforceme anything will not.
And how would you collect all the guns?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2017, 08:19:44 PM
 

Some fat white "accountant" did the recon, got the guns, modified them, and killed 60? Horse shit!

(http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/141223081417-kim-jong-un-satire-north-korea-story-top.png)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Mclovin on October 02, 2017, 08:28:22 PM
Shame on every single American coward gun supporter. You idiots, biggots and cowards let this happen with your oh so prescious "right to bare arms".

Shame on all of you. You (once again) have the blood of many innocent and beautiful lives on your hands :(
You obviously don’t understand America. I am personally for some forms of gun control but you will have a literal civil war on your hands if you try to take Americans’ guns away. People’s feelings about guns are as deeply held as religion here in a lot of cases.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 02, 2017, 08:36:42 PM
you ain't milling that trigger pocket w a dremel on an ar. But someone with knowhow and a mill cam do it but again you are a criminal when you do this. And then you need the coorect trigger parts to do the conversion. Not impossible but difficult.

It's not that hard.  Dremel off the disconnector, and you're full auto.  Takes about 30 seconds. 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 02, 2017, 09:01:45 PM
Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock bought more than 30 weapons and had 23 firearms in his hotel room as he carried out the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, Fox News learned Monday.

The deadly cache included converted, fully automatic AR-15 style assault rifles with high capacity magazines, according to a law enforcement source. The weaponry suggests Paddock passed numerous FBI background checks.

Police said late Monday they recovered 23 firearms from Paddock's hotel room. Weapons found were both .308 and .223 caliber, Fox News has learned.

The owner of a gun store in Utah says Paddock visited the store multiple times this year and purchased a shotgun after successfully passing a federal gun background check.

Dixie GunWorx owner Chris Michel recalled that Paddock said that he was new to the area and was visiting local gun shops. Paddock purchased the shotgun in February and last visited the store in St. George in the spring. The store is located approximately 40 minutes from where Paddock lived in Mesquite, Nevada.

Michel says he spoke with Paddock to get to know him and make sure there were no signs that he should not be allowed to buy a gun. "There were no red flags," Michel said he concluded.

Country music star Jason Aldean was on stage Sunday night at the Route 91 Harvest Festival when Paddock opened fire across the street from inside the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino, killing at least 59 people and injuring more than 520.

Paddock killed himself as police stormed his hotel room.

One witness told a local television station that he heard "hundreds of shots." The gunfire was rapid and was reportedly confused with firecrackers.

Criminal defense attorney and frequent Fox News guest describes running for his life after seeing Jason Aldean drop his guitar and sprint off stage.Video
Brian Claypool was eyewitness to Las Vegas attack

"It sounded like a machine gun," one vendor told Fox News. "It sounded like more than one machine gun."

The .223 is known as a typical AR-15 round and is common in small game hunting. The .308 is a heavy, long range bullet, meant for big game like elk and black bears. It is commonly used in an AR-10 rifle.

Fully automatic weapons are illegal, but machinists can convert them.

There is one unlikely exception. A machine gun purchased prior to 1986 is eligible for a license from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which issued a tax stamp. But those stamps are almost impossible to acquire.

A search of Stephen Paddock's home turned up at least 19 additional firearms, explosives and several thousand rounds of ammunition, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Monday night. Several pounds of ammonium nitrate, a material used to make explosives, were found in Paddock's car.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 02, 2017, 09:19:24 PM
Press is totally hush on political affiliation and motive. It's interesting how information is so selectively released. But we already "know" he isn't involved in international terror.  ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 09:41:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpcqS6ZiCuw

Best video I've seen so far.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 02, 2017, 09:48:41 PM
OMG that was fucking BRUTAL.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2017, 09:52:13 PM
What an idiot comment. The killings in Mexico also make use of ... you guessed it ... GUNS!

If we collect all the guns, punish more severely for possession, and start imposing more death penalties for crimes, this would obviously help. Being liberal pussies and to weak to enforceme anything will not.

your reading comprehension sucks.

btw, the 'liberal pussies' are your kind, the ones who want to take the guns away.

you're either dumb as fuck, or youre a lame gimmick  just wasting space.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2017, 10:05:05 PM
Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock bought more than 30 weapons and had 23 firearms in his hotel room as he carried out the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, Fox News learned Monday. Dirty weapons including 23 firearms? What else do they have 7 pocket knives? A baseball bat crowbar?/b]

The deadly cache included converted, fully automatic AR-15 style assault rifles with high capacity magazines, according to a law enforcement source. The weaponry suggests Paddock passed numerous FBI background checks.

Police said late Monday they recovered 23 firearms from Paddock's hotel room. Weapons found were both .308 and .223 caliber, Fox News has learned.

The owner of a gun store in Utah says Paddock visited the store multiple times this year and purchased a shotgun after successfully passing a federal gun background check.

Dixie GunWorx owner Chris Michel recalled that Paddock said that he was new to the area and was visiting local gun shops. Paddock purchased the shotgun in February and last visited the store in St. George in the spring. The store is located approximately 40 minutes from where Paddock lived in Mesquite, Nevada.

Michel says he spoke with Paddock to get to know him and make sure there were no signs that he should not be allowed to buy a gun. "There were no red flags," Michel said he concluded.[/b]
Bullshit.. LOL. Dude just sold the gun and asked "cash or card?"
Country music star Jason Aldean was on stage Sunday night at the Route 91 Harvest Festival when Paddock opened fire across the street from inside the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino, killing at least 59 people and injuring more than 520.

Paddock killed himself as police stormed his hotel room.

One witness told a local television station that he heard "hundreds of shots." The gunfire was rapid and was reportedly confused with firecrackers.

Criminal defense attorney and frequent Fox News guest describes running for his life after seeing Jason Aldean drop his guitar and sprint off stage.Video
Brian Claypool was eyewitness to Las Vegas attack

"It sounded like a machine gun," one vendor told Fox News. "It sounded like more than one machine gun."

The .223 is known as a typical AR-15 round and is common in small game hunting. The .308 is a heavy, long range bullet, meant for big game like elk and black bears. It is commonly used in an AR-10 rifle.

Fully automatic weapons are illegal, but machinists can convert them.

There is one unlikely exception. A machine gun purchased prior to 1986 is eligible for a license from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which issued a tax stamp. But those stamps are almost impossible to acquire.
Iimpossible? Again, bullshit. Takes 8 or 9months. As long as you have no felonies and no restraining orders against you you're fine just got to pay the tax stamp

A search of Stephen Paddock's home turned up at least 19 additional firearms, explosives and several thousand rounds of ammunition, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Monday night. Several pounds of ammonium nitrate, a material used to make explosives, were found in Paddock's car.

Wish people in the press actually had their shit fact-checked. I was listening to Ben Shapiro's podcast thing earlier and even the shit he was saying was incorrect


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Ted SuperSet on October 02, 2017, 10:06:41 PM
Piew piew piew!!!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2017, 10:13:53 PM

One sounds very distant,  and the other sounds like it's coming really close to the uber lady.

Both have rapid fire

Clearly 2 shooter, the cops wouldn't be returning fire that quickly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpcqS6ZiCuw

Best video I've seen so far.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Ted SuperSet on October 02, 2017, 10:17:48 PM
Let me quess you rednecks are stil against gun-control LOL. Only in the USA!!

Lets wait for the the smart comebacks like "ban cars " etc....  ::)

Piew piew piew!!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Ted SuperSet on October 02, 2017, 10:20:26 PM
Is wiggs stil alive?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 02, 2017, 10:22:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpcqS6ZiCuw

Best video I've seen so far.

what the hell is she expecting them to do when she says "you guys there's a shots fired"?? start running and screaming? obviously nobody's shooting at them so wtf do they care?

*edit, actually watched it to the end. that is one dumb bitch.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2017, 10:32:29 PM

That's clearly not the 32nd floor


https://youtu.be/gFFcfglnlW8 (https://youtu.be/gFFcfglnlW8)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 02, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpcqS6ZiCuw

Best video I've seen so far.

At 4:49 you can see what appears muzzle flash which supports the other video. Who knows. :-\

That's clearly not the 32nd floor


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFFcfglnlW8


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 02, 2017, 10:47:11 PM
Is wiggs stil alive?

He's a nurse now. Likely saved hundreds of lives of shooting victims last night.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 10:52:12 PM
Is wiggs stil alive?

Muh cataclysm...

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/b9dddb7901f9b0f5564bd9bb9d9417c3/tumblr_ox8fp0wLm71wd3uyro1_540.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 02, 2017, 11:05:05 PM
I had fun trolling earlier but something stinks about this...there are some nuts who believe the entire thing was staged and question the lack of photographic evidence of the victims. I received some photos, one of them of a woman who looks to be in her twenties who took a round in the face. Hopefully nobody here is that stupid.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 02, 2017, 11:24:29 PM
I had fun trolling earlier but something stinks about this...there are some nuts who believe the entire thing was staged and question the lack of photographic evidence of the victims. I received some photos, one of them of a woman who looks to be in her twenties who took a round in the face. Hopefully nobody here is that stupid.

I know for an fact it wasn't staged.

I personally know two people shot. It's very real unfortunately.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: gib on October 02, 2017, 11:34:54 PM
your reading comprehension sucks.

btw, the 'liberal pussies' are your kind, the ones who want to take the guns away.

you're either dumb as fuck, or youre a lame gimmick  just wasting space.

No. The liberal pussies are the ones who want to uphold the all important constitutional "right to arms".

http://www.smh.com.au/world/heres-why-australia-will-never-understand-the-us-obsession-with-guns-20171003-gyt7ys.html


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: gib on October 02, 2017, 11:42:04 PM
You obviously don’t understand America. I am personally for some forms of gun control but you will have a literal civil war on your hands if you try to take Americans’ guns away. People’s feelings about guns are as deeply held as religion here in a lot of cases.

So what? Bring on the "civil war" and put the military to some good use. Seize the damn guns!

http://www.smh.com.au/world/heres-why-australia-will-never-understand-the-us-obsession-with-guns-20171003-gyt7ys.html (http://www.smh.com.au/world/heres-why-australia-will-never-understand-the-us-obsession-with-guns-20171003-gyt7ys.html)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: jr on October 02, 2017, 11:54:56 PM
One sounds very distant,  and the other sounds like it's coming really close to the uber lady.

Both have rapid fire

Clearly 2 shooter, the cops wouldn't be returning fire that quickly


(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/40a42f052a1f8f541b8e5c1ec6d10868)
(https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/ap_17275498021240.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cfU46iCLk2s/UCYkyTXMcuI/AAAAAAAABT0/OPala-dcCkU/s1600/diffract%2BNoise%2Bsound.jpg)
(http://hydrogen.physik.uni-wuppertal.de/hyperphysics/hyperphysics/hbase/sound/imgsou/difr2.gif)



Gunfire coming from two different windows and angles.

Her car was probably in a spot where the sound coming from one window had to travel around the building which make the sound muffled, as high frequency sounds are highly directional and get attenuated around walls or structures.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 03, 2017, 12:15:15 AM
I think that Wiggs is a nurse in Vegas. Or he is in the process of becoming a nurse. I wonder if he is at one of the major hospitals there?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: gib on October 03, 2017, 12:19:43 AM
I think that Wiggs is a nurse in Vegas. Or he is in the process of becoming a nurse. I wonder if he is at one of the major hospitals there?

Damn! And he was a county music fan too. Hope he's ok!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 12:31:21 AM
(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/40a42f052a1f8f541b8e5c1ec6d10868)
(https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/ap_17275498021240.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cfU46iCLk2s/UCYkyTXMcuI/AAAAAAAABT0/OPala-dcCkU/s1600/diffract%2BNoise%2Bsound.jpg)
(http://hydrogen.physik.uni-wuppertal.de/hyperphysics/hyperphysics/hbase/sound/imgsou/difr2.gif)



Gunfire coming from two different windows and angles.

Her car was probably in a spot where the sound coming from one window had to travel around the building which make the sound muffled, as high frequency sounds are highly directional and get attenuated around walls or structures.

What about the muzzle flash though? That didn't appear to be coming from the 32nd floor from the three different videos I've seen taken from different angles.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 03, 2017, 12:32:45 AM
You obviously don’t understand America. I am personally for some forms of gun control but you will have a literal civil war on your hands if you try to take Americans’ guns away. People’s feelings about guns are as deeply held as religion here in a lot of cases.

What they don’t understand or, more likely, don’t want to acknowledge is that these incidents while horrible represent a tiny fraction of all the shootings in the United States. This is who’s really doing the shooting:



http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2016-enforcement-report.pdf


The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (70.7%). Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (26.9%) of all suspects. White suspects (1.9%) and Asian/Pacific Islander suspects (0.6%) accounted for the remaining portion of known Shooting suspects



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 03, 2017, 12:33:14 AM
I noticed that singer just turned and ran when he realized there was shooting - didn't even try to warn the crowd.  What singer was this?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 12:42:26 AM
I noticed that singer just turned and ran when he realized there was shooting - didn't even try to warn the crowd.  What singer was this?

one that's still alive....


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 03, 2017, 12:45:31 AM
one that's still alive....

I hope he gets roasted for the coward he is.  He had access to the microphone and he could have warned them. 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 12:48:00 AM
I hope he gets roasted for the coward he is.  He had access to the microphone and he could have warned them. 

"Hey everyone, run, someone's shooting at us"

Im pretty sure they were all aware of that already...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 12:49:13 AM
I noticed that singer just turned and ran when he realized there was shooting - didn't even try to warn the crowd.  What singer was this?

What could he have said that would make any difference? People are crammed together with no where to move and didn't realize it was gunfire till it was too late. If he had been closer he would of killed a hell of alot more.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 03, 2017, 12:50:30 AM
"Hey everyone, run, someone's shooting at us"

Im pretty sure they were all aware of that already...

No they weren't.  If you watch the videos lots of people didn't know until quite a bit later.  Enough time for the cultural marxist to take out many more victims.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 01:05:21 AM
No they weren't.  If you watch the videos lots of people didn't know until quite a bit later.  Enough time for the cultural marxist to take out many more victims.

Ehh, that was just some shit 4chan put together. I was on /pol/ that night and the threads started around 10:30 or later. Some of the media early on were getting info from google that was posted on  /pol/ and mistakenly ran it.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 01:11:18 AM
 All the liberal shit was taken from his fullofpeeno gf's ex husbands fb page.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 03, 2017, 01:17:39 AM
Alex Jones, who legit has the phone number of the president, and a lot of high level sources including US generals and top CIA operatives (for you idiots that will instantly respond with mockery) says he got a message from a member of the Hostage Rescue Team that stormed the shooters room, saying it is a cover up, and that there was a lot of antifa literature in the room, and also photos of a middle eastern woman.

He got the message while he was live on air.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 01:21:58 AM
Alex Jones, who legit has the phone number of the president, and a lot of high level sources including US generals and top CIA operatives (for you idiots that will instantly respond with mockery) says he got a message from a member of the Hostage Rescue Team that stormed the shooters room, saying it is a cover up, and that there was a lot of antifa literature in the room, and also photos of a middle eastern woman.

He got the message while he was live on air.
be quiet you fucking idiot...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 03, 2017, 01:23:30 AM
be quiet you fucking idiot...

and the king of the retards instantly chimes in as predicted

hey cockhead why don't you jump on the phone to the president and ask him.... oh wait you don't have the number of the president or of generals or cia chiefs

well cheer up at least you got your steroid dealers number  ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 03, 2017, 01:28:29 AM
Sources also told Jones there was Islamic stuff in the room.  And that they killed him (he didn't kill himself).

Also he showed photos of the asian gf in Dubai.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Conker on October 03, 2017, 01:51:45 AM
Sources also told Jones there was Islamic stuff in the room.  And that they killed him (he didn't kill himself).

Also he showed photos of the asian gf in Dubai.

covering all bases !

he had antifa literature and islamic stuff in his room?
 
islamic extremism and a left wing group ....odd bed fellows


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 02:06:21 AM
Alex Jones, who legit has the phone number of the president, and a lot of high level sources including US generals and top CIA operatives (for you idiots that will instantly respond with mockery) says he got a message from a member of the Hostage Rescue Team that stormed the shooters room, saying it is a cover up, and that there was a lot of antifa literature in the room, and also photos of a middle eastern woman.

He got the message while he was live on air.

I'm not buying the antifa stuff. The guy's a millionare in his 60's with real estate and spends most of his time vacationing and gambling. It's been alleged that he was in dubai with the fullofpeeno, I did see a picture of her there that she had on fb before she made it private so maybe that's what he's referring to. If he's antifa, then he's obviously not a jihadist. As far as Alex Jones goes I can't take him seriously, too over the top.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 03, 2017, 02:07:04 AM
covering all bases !

he had antifa literature and islamic stuff in his room?
 
islamic extremism and a left wing group ....odd bed fellows


Well antifa is pro islam so there's no real contradiction there


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 02:39:46 AM
Well antifa is pro islam so there's no real contradiction there

They're pro anything that isn't white heterosexual male until it no longer benefits them. That's why they're no longer aligned with BLM. An example of antifa's hatred of white males. This white male cuck is chastised by mestizo scum after refusing to assault another white man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i6J2fcrKi8


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 03, 2017, 02:43:06 AM
Wow what a fukking cuck.  I think it is time to send those mexican whores back to mexico.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 03, 2017, 02:50:31 AM
They're pro anything that isn't white heterosexual male until it no longer benefits them. That's why they're no longer aligned with BLM. An example of antifa's hatred of white males. This white male cuck is chastised by mestizo scum after refusing to assault another white man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i6J2fcrKi8

Can't believe they're so brainwashed.

And who allowed them to get so uppity?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 03, 2017, 03:06:24 AM
I liked this comment on the youtube page, and so did a lot of other people, as it got 1.7k "likes."  It seems like our people are waking up...

Quote
That guy just realized that when all the "nazis" are gone, he'll be next in line to get the bullet. The definition of a useful idiot.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: jr on October 03, 2017, 03:25:56 AM
What about the muzzle flash though? That didn't appear to be coming from the 32nd floor from the three different videos I've seen taken from different angles.


Flippo4 hours ago (edited)

Muzzle flashes appears at 4:58


Montag00
Montag003 hours ago

Those arent muzzle flashes... those are lights rewatch that clip they continue after he stops shooting.



Why not me 17 3 hours ago

People keep pushing this muzzle flash bullshit, this video easily proves what you said...


Flippo3 hours ago

Then someone is wasting power flashing their light on and off ;)
    


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 03, 2017, 03:27:08 AM
Actually it took 72 MINUTES FROM THE 1st SHOT FIRED TO THE TIME SWAT KNOCKED IN THE DOOR.

Please watch these videos! THERE WAS MORE THAN 1 SHOOTER, POSSIBLY 3 SHOOTERS IN ALL!! They are lying to us!

DEFINITIVE PROOF OF MORE THAN 1 SHOOTER! Filmed by a taxi driver DIRECTLY UNDER THE SHOOTER!
Fast forward to 4:55 to see the shooter. That is NOT the 32nd floor!! It's the 3-4th floor!

https://youtu.be/7O_3RQlKJb0

This is not very good quality but you can still see what i mean. Watch the 4th floor, middle area. Unmistakable muzzle flashes.

https://youtu.be/gywc58Bxxc8


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 03:34:55 AM
Actually it took 72 MINUTES FROM THE 1st SHOT FIRED TO THE TIME SWAT KNOCKED IN THE DOOR.

Please watch these videos! THERE WAS MORE THAN 1 SHOOTER, POSSIBLY 3 SHOOTERS IN ALL!! They are lying to us!

DEFINITIVE PROOF OF MORE THAN 1 SHOOTER! Filmed by a taxi driver DIRECTLY UNDER THE SHOOTER!
Fast forward to 4:55 to see the shooter. That is NOT the 32nd floor!! It's the 3-4th floor!

https://youtu.be/7O_3RQlKJb0

This is not very good quality but you can still see what i mean. Watch the 4th floor, middle area. Unmistakable muzzle flashes.

https://youtu.be/gywc58Bxxc8

AND SO IT BEGINS......

No planes 9/11 either........


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: jr on October 03, 2017, 03:39:55 AM
Actually it took 72 MINUTES FROM THE 1st SHOT FIRED TO THE TIME SWAT KNOCKED IN THE DOOR.

Please watch these videos! THERE WAS MORE THAN 1 SHOOTER, POSSIBLY 3 SHOOTERS IN ALL!! They are lying to us!

DEFINITIVE PROOF OF MORE THAN 1 SHOOTER! Filmed by a taxi driver DIRECTLY UNDER THE SHOOTER!
Fast forward to 4:55 to see the shooter. That is NOT the 32nd floor!! It's the 3-4th floor!

https://youtu.be/7O_3RQlKJb0

This is not very good quality but you can still see what i mean. Watch the 4th floor, middle area. Unmistakable muzzle flashes.

https://youtu.be/gywc58Bxxc8


So some windows on the 4th floor should be broken too right?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 03, 2017, 03:41:04 AM
oh shit forgot to preface that it's not my comment, just a comment i found elsewhere


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 03, 2017, 03:41:58 AM

So some windows on the 4th floor should be broken too right?


idunno i didnt watch any vids, im not keeping up with this at all, why would a window be broken you can shoot through an open one...?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 04:00:13 AM
idunno i didnt watch any vids, im not keeping up with this at all, why would a window be broken you can shoot through an open one...?

No, they're full length from the floor to the ceiling. The problem is it's obviously not the light in the room flashing on and off. I'm not a conspiracy guy, but that's no coincidence.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 04:02:58 AM

So some windows on the 4th floor should be broken too right?


No, because that would contradict the lone wolf storyline. It's either that or it didn't take place on the 32nd foor. Three different videos at different times from different angles show muzzle blast from the lower level.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 03, 2017, 04:06:11 AM
jonesy just said his fbi/cia friend or something was a first responder or something like that and they found a room full of jihadi/islam stuff along with a big picture of a woman, this whiteboy fairytale is just a coverup


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: sceagacros on October 03, 2017, 04:10:59 AM
They've taken down the shooter's facebook account for "investigation" but some people managed to view it before it was scrubbed and claim he was a vehemently anti-trump , pro leftist, Soros/ Hillary sympathizer - quite vocal in his libtard views.

From what can be seen in the few pictures released of the shooter by the press one can only tell that he was in fact wider than Heath.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 04:11:55 AM
jonesy just said his fbi/cia friend or something was a first responder or something like that and they found a room full of jihadi/islam stuff along with a big picture of a woman, this whiteboy fairytale is just a coverup

What's jihadi stuff? A quran, prayer rug and enough guns and ammo to take on the entire LVPD? They keep beating us over the head with how many guns he had, you can only fire one at a time realistically so what does it matter?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 04:14:23 AM
jonesy just said his fbi/cia friend or something was a first responder or something like that and they found a room full of jihadi/islam stuff along with a big picture of a woman, this whiteboy fairytale is just a coverup
and that is the comic relief to a sad event. That Alex Jones has connections to the CIA/FBI and they would leak info to him, at a time when these agencies have been embroiled in controversy. And that a first responder would call Alex Jones, instead of doing their job in a very chaotic incident, just to let Alex Jones know of what was in the room.
All this is Alex Jones trying to insert himself into a tragedy to garner some attention.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 04:21:22 AM
They've taken down the shooter's facebook account for "investigation" but some people managed to view it before it was scrubbed and claim he was a vehemently anti-trump , pro leftist, Soros/ Hillary sympathizer - quite vocal in his libtard views.

From what can be seen in the few pictures released of the shooter by the press one can only tell that he was in fact wider than Heath.

I'd love for that to be true.

But

If that were the case, you'd assume Trump and the republicans would want to make it known somehow.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 04:22:53 AM
What's jihadi stuff? A quran, prayer rug and enough guns and ammo to take on the entire LVPD? They keep beating us over the head with how many guns he had, you can only fire one at a time realistically so what does it matter?
Where is it mentioned that he had a Quran and a prayer rug?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 04:26:17 AM
They've taken down the shooter's facebook account for "investigation" but some people managed to view it before it was scrubbed and claim he was a vehemently anti-trump , pro leftist, Soros/ Hillary sympathizer - quite vocal in his libtard views.

From what can be seen in the few pictures released of the shooter by the press one can only tell that he was in fact wider than Heath.

Look, I'm not claiming he wasn't liberal, I don't know. I know that 4chan took screen shots of his fullofpeeno whore's ex husband's facebook groups and claimed they were paddocks. There's a video of an anti trump protest that took place in August I believe that they're claiming he was at. It does kind of look like him but it's not clear enough for a positive id. There's a photo of him at a bar with a couple other fat white guys with money and their gook whores but he looked alot fatter than the guy in the video. The same picture of him holding the shot glass was taken that night. I've only seen three images of the guy. They're even claiming he's ex CIA and that's why he has his eyes closed in the photo with the shot glass. His dad was a jew, at least that's what they're claiming so now he's the jew killer who did it to get all our guns taken away. Haven't heard a solid theory yet...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: sceagacros on October 03, 2017, 04:27:26 AM
I'd love for that to be true.

But

If that were the case, you'd assume Trump and the republicans would want to make it known somehow.



I made sure to specify that they "claimed" as I also thought it too good to be true - I've seen a few memes on facebook with supposed evidence of his leanings and a video of (supposedly) him at a pro antifa rally,  but one must question EVERYTHING in this digital age.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 04:30:40 AM
Where is it mentioned that he had a Quran and a prayer rug?

Poodle said alex jones claimed he had "jihadi stuff".


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 03, 2017, 04:31:30 AM
Poodle said alex jones claimed he had "jihadi stuff".

das it mang


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: sceagacros on October 03, 2017, 04:33:53 AM
Looking to Alex Jones for factual information seems akin to asking Woody Allen for muscle building advices.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 03, 2017, 04:41:18 AM
and that is the comic relief to a sad event. That Alex Jones has connections to the CIA/FBI and they would leak info to him, at a time when these agencies have been embroiled in controversy. And that a first responder would call Alex Jones, instead of doing their job in a very chaotic incident, just to let Alex Jones know of what was in the room.
All this is Alex Jones trying to insert himself into a tragedy to garner some attention.

How dense are you?  Jones has ex high ranking cia and special forces people on his show regularly.

and the info was passed to Jones after the event was well over


Title: hayley Geftman, Erin Fagan
Post by: beakdoctor on October 03, 2017, 04:48:39 AM
fuck these 2 ignorant pieces of filthy steaming hot piles of shit.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 03, 2017, 04:50:41 AM
yeah i don't see at all why somebody having contacts in the cia/fbi etc is such a stretch.

esp somebody known, a journalist, and public for a long time

fuck the alphabet agencies staff PEOPLE, not fucking demi gods


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 04:53:35 AM
How dense are you?  Jones has ex high ranking cia and special forces people on his show regularly.

and the info was passed to Jones after the event was well over
there is a diff between a show guest and knowing them.
And people just don't pass info like that along. Especially to a nut like Alex.


Title: Re: hayley Geftman, Erin Fagan
Post by: dj181 on October 03, 2017, 04:53:46 AM
any relation to Donald ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 03, 2017, 04:57:04 AM
The responses I’m seeing from liberals is that on one hand they want the guy labeled a terrorist because he’s white, on the other, they don’t want his political views analyzed for fear that he might be liberal.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 05:01:15 AM
yeah i don't see at all why somebody having contacts in the cia/fbi etc is such a stretch.

esp somebody known, a journalist, and public for a long time

fuck the alphabet agencies staff PEOPLE, not fucking demi gods
Thing is, they tend to hire rational people. And there is procedural aspects and protocol. Sure there are disgruntled people, but you don't go giving info to people like Alex Jones, who is like the kid who can't swim, but always goes to the pool. There is bound to be trouble with him. Plus, he offers no credibility. The only reason one would leak info to him would be to throw people off with misinformation, or to a far lesser extent, give credible info, knowing that no one would believe him. Alex Jones and people like him (Blaha) like using FBI or CIA because  their "sexy" and shrouded in mystery and mystique. When for the most part, there is none.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 03, 2017, 05:04:56 AM
Thing is, they tend to hire rational people. And there is procedural aspects and protocol. Sure there are disgruntled people, but you don't go giving info to people like Alex Jones, who is like the kid who can't swim, but always goes to the pool. There is bound to be trouble with him. Plus, he offers no credibility. The only reason one would leak info to him would be to throw people off with misinformation, or to a far lesser extent, give credible info, knowing that no one would believe him. Alex Jones and people like him (Blaha) like using FBI or CIA because  their "sexy" and shrouded in mystery and mystique. When for the most part, there is none.

why not, i've been in a high level place and i'd readily tell somebody on the outside about goings on

esp given how much bullshit the mainstream media spews

if anything this makes him MORE believable


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 03, 2017, 05:07:44 AM
why not, i've been in a high level place and i'd readily tell somebody on the outside about goings on

esp given how much bullshit the mainstream media spews

if anything this makes him MORE believable

Jones has had stuff leaked to him in the past which turned out to be true.  On quite a few occasions.



Title: Re: hayley Geftman, Erin Fagan
Post by: dan18 on October 03, 2017, 05:15:09 AM
fuck these 2 ignorant pieces of filthy steaming hot piles of shit.
ooooooooooooook so pics do they lift whats your beef...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 05:19:19 AM
why not, i've been in a high level place and i'd readily tell somebody on the outside about goings on

esp given how much bullshit the mainstream media spews

if anything this makes him MORE believable
Because with situations like this, giving a loudmouth like Jones any info would be detrimental to getting a handle on the "what's next" part. And Alex Jones spews more than the regular strength media.

Remember there is reason why the government hasn't really come all out on the alien thing. Because guys like Alex Jones, David Icke, and others would go full reptilian with their imaginations, which leaves rational thought behind.


Also, do you think that the alphabet boys that monitor this and other bodybuilding boards from time to time make it known to people like Jones that they monitor the boards? They do not.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 03, 2017, 05:21:23 AM
Because with situations like this, giving a loudmouth like Jones any info would be detrimental to getting a handle on the "what's next" part. And Alex Jones spews more than the regular strength media.

Remember there is reason why the government hasn't really come all out on the alien thing. Because guys like Alex Jones, David Icke, and others would go full reptilian with their imaginations, which leaves rational thought behind.


Also, do you think that the alphabet boys that monitor this and other bodybuilding boards from time to time make it known to people like Jones that they monitor the boards? They do not.

ahahahahaha lololololol

call Jones, a guy with multiple high level cia fbi special forces military connections a fruitloop

then proceeds to tell us about the aliens  ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 05:26:44 AM
ahahahahaha lololololol

call Jones, a guy with multiple high level cia fbi special forces military connections a fruitloop

then proceeds to tell us about the aliens  ;D
Yep, because that is another thing on Alex Jones agenda. Him and David Icke are on that wacky page, that your folk love.

Alex has far less "connections" than you think.
His ego leads you to believe he does.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 03, 2017, 05:40:41 AM
Yep, because that is another thing on Alex Jones agenda. Him and David Icke are on that wacky page, that your folk love.

Alex has far less "connections" than you think.
His ego leads you to believe he does.

i think your blind disregard and staunch POV leads you astray


Title: Re: hayley Geftman, Erin Fagan
Post by: Kwon on October 03, 2017, 05:40:45 AM
DO THEY LIFT WHAT'S YOUR BEEF



WHAT'S YOUR BEEF DO THEY LIFT


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SuperTed on October 03, 2017, 05:54:49 AM
Look, I'm not claiming he wasn't liberal, I don't know. I know that 4chan took screen shots of his fullofpeeno whore's ex husband's facebook groups and claimed they were paddocks. There's a video of an anti trump protest that took place in August I believe that they're claiming he was at. It does kind of look like him but it's not clear enough for a positive id. There's a photo of him at a bar with a couple other fat white guys with money and their gook whores but he looked alot fatter than the guy in the video. The same picture of him holding the shot glass was taken that night. I've only seen three images of the guy. They're even claiming he's ex CIA and that's why he has his eyes closed in the photo with the shot glass. His dad was a jew, at least that's what they're claiming so now he's the jew killer who did it to get all our guns taken away. Haven't heard a solid theory yet...

I doubt there is any political motive behind the attack. Dude was just a loon who hated life and wanted to go out in a way that have him remembered. There is no shortage of people like him around.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Tennisballz on October 03, 2017, 06:27:19 AM
We will probably never really know all the details behind this terrible attack.  There will be so many conspiracy theories, it really doesn't matter.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 03, 2017, 06:57:33 AM
it really doesn't matter.

that is very problematic thinking

it is the type of thinking that made transgender a thing

transgender is pure evil, there is nothing worse


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Griffith on October 03, 2017, 07:04:42 AM
that is very problematic thinking

it is the type of thinking that made transgender a thing

transgender is pure evil, there is nothing worse

 ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 07:11:19 AM
We will probably never really know all the details behind this terrible attack.  There will be so many conspiracy theories, it really doesn't matter.

You have to leave a manifesto, everybody knows that!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 03, 2017, 07:12:16 AM
::)

WHAT DO U DISAGREE WITH


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 03, 2017, 07:17:27 AM
WHAT DO U DISAGREE WITH

"Griffith" is a Tranny, that's why.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 03, 2017, 07:19:06 AM
"Griffith" is a Tranny, that's why.

HAHA HE IS EVIL!! MAYBE NOT HIM BUT THE TRANSGENDERISM, SO HE IS *PARTAKING* IN EVIL, HAHAHAHAH HOW CORRUPT SOCIETY HAS BECOME THIS IS SAD!!!!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 03, 2017, 07:26:49 AM
The responses I’m seeing from liberals is that on one hand they want the guy labeled a terrorist because he’s white, on the other, they don’t want his political views analyzed for fear that he might be liberal.

Liberal faggets who hate the cops now want extreme gun control - enforced by who?  THE COPS!!!

they are mentally insane, 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 03, 2017, 07:35:34 AM
Liberal faggets who hate the cops now want extreme gun control - enforced by who?  THE COPS!!!

they are mentally insane, 

The calls for gun control are a complete sham. If you’ve read the memo from the NFL players union their primary issue was with the way cops treat blacks.

Getting guns off the street would involve aggressive policing of the demographic that does most of the shooting. Guess who that is?

What liberals want is politically correct gun control.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 08:11:44 AM
Paddock.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/95f7bb2102bd707cc1f1277a751297cd/tumblr_ox96619doa1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: gym**rat on October 03, 2017, 08:13:48 AM
I hear if you stay in the upper floors it will give you nose bleeds.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 08:24:35 AM
Looks like he spent his last moments fellating a gun. So much for Alex Jones story ehh?


Title: Re: hayley Geftman, Erin Fagan
Post by: beakdoctor on October 03, 2017, 08:31:30 AM
ooooooooooooook so pics do they lift whats your beef...

well sir, they most definitely do not lift. and if that isnt reason enough to want to annihilate them i dont know what its....

for me, personally, i would like to take a shit in Hayleys mouth. id also like to kick the other whore in the pudendal nerve.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 08:42:44 AM
Paddock.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/95f7bb2102bd707cc1f1277a751297cd/tumblr_ox96619doa1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)
Some odd carpeting for that room.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 08:48:56 AM
It's hideous.


Title: Re: hayley Geftman, Erin Fagan
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 03, 2017, 08:52:38 AM
Glad CBS shit-canned the bitch. ESPN should have canned Jemele Hill as well, like they did when Schilling said "Mens rooms are for the penis and nothing else", when he put down Tranny bathrooms.

Conveniently selective libtardism.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: stuntmovie on October 03, 2017, 09:30:10 AM
A lot of interesting theories here!

I wonder if the pro investigators ever read these boards or this board to enhance their investigation in an effort to find the truth?





Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LanceD on October 03, 2017, 09:55:52 AM
another steroid related death ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 03, 2017, 10:03:04 AM
A lot of interesting theories here!

I wonder if the pro investigators ever read these boards or this board to enhance their investigation in an effort to find the truth?





I know there were times in my career where I would use this board to support my theories in many investigations. Blew the prosecutors minds...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 10:10:26 AM
Well, if Alex Jones said, then it must be true! Stop the press!! Stop the investigation! Case is solved!!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 03, 2017, 10:13:06 AM
Some good points here.  I won't list them all.

Even highly trained Navy Seals would have a difficult time running a full auto weapon for 10 minutes straight. Such weapon systems are brutal on the operator. They require tremendous strength, stamina and expert troubleshooting to keep running. Full-auto weapons overheat and jam. They demand incredible strength to keep aimed on target. They require expert reloading and weapons clearing in the case of jams, and the hotel room would have been so full of smoke and powder residue that it would be almost impossible to keep breathing from that enclosed space.

Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.

Here are 10+ reasons why the official narrative is complete B.S.


https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 10:16:44 AM
Some good points here.  I won't list them all.

Even highly trained Navy Seals would have a difficult time running a full auto weapon for 10 minutes straight. Such weapon systems are brutal on the operator. They require tremendous strength, stamina and expert troubleshooting to keep running. Full-auto weapons overheat and jam. They demand incredible strength to keep aimed on target. They require expert reloading and weapons clearing in the case of jams, and the hotel room would have been so full of smoke and powder residue that it would be almost impossible to keep breathing from that enclosed space.

Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.

Here are 10+ reasons why the official narrative is complete B.S.


https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html

What about if you're a getbigger?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 10:17:50 AM
all that smoke from the shots would cause the sprinkler system to turn on in the room, he looks sweaty but not drenched in water


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: residue on October 03, 2017, 10:25:11 AM
Some good points here.  I won't list them all.

Even highly trained Navy Seals would have a difficult time running a full auto weapon for 10 minutes straight. Such weapon systems are brutal on the operator. They require tremendous strength, stamina and expert troubleshooting to keep running. Full-auto weapons overheat and jam. They demand incredible strength to keep aimed on target. They require expert reloading and weapons clearing in the case of jams, and the hotel room would have been so full of smoke and powder residue that it would be almost impossible to keep breathing from that enclosed space.

Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.

Here are 10+ reasons why the official narrative is complete B.S.


https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html
excited delirium


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Ted SuperSet on October 03, 2017, 10:27:05 AM
Serious question: has wiggs posted yet???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: tres_taco_combo on October 03, 2017, 10:37:58 AM
Some good points here.  I won't list them all.

Even highly trained Navy Seals would have a difficult time running a full auto weapon for 10 minutes straight. Such weapon systems are brutal on the operator. They require tremendous strength, stamina and expert troubleshooting to keep running. Full-auto weapons overheat and jam. They demand incredible strength to keep aimed on target. They require expert reloading and weapons clearing in the case of jams, and the hotel room would have been so full of smoke and powder residue that it would be almost impossible to keep breathing from that enclosed space.

Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.

Here are 10+ reasons why the official narrative is complete B.S.


https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html


interesting


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 10:41:22 AM
Looking at Mandalay bay suit rooms , none of them show that type of carpet

however , they do have alot of different flooring for rooms it seems


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: tres_taco_combo on October 03, 2017, 10:43:22 AM
bodybuilding related

The Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino in Las Vegas held the 1999 Mr. Olympia contest. The venue was completely sold out. Again this year Coleman and Wheeler battled in yet another close contest. Ronnie came in to the contest bigger than the previous year, again with great conditioning.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rocco-x on October 03, 2017, 10:46:20 AM
Are there any reports as to what type of weapons he used...AK,AR,H&K?

Only heard that among the 18 found in his room 2 were on a tripod which means some fairly heavy weaponry.

I'm surprised the death toll isn't much much higher. Having fired off all those rounds directly into the center mass of a crowd that large, some ppl were hit numerous times so he had a pretty decent knowledge of long range shooting.

I doubt anything will be found as to his why he flipped out. So far no notes, emails, texts were discovered and he still had money to live off of. Unless his hatred for country music was just that deep...who knows. His brother sure af looks like he doesn't know what to think.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 03, 2017, 10:52:31 AM
Are there any reports as to what type of weapons he used...AK,AR,H&K?

Only heard that among the 18 found in his room 2 were on a tripod which means some fairly heavy weaponry.

I'm surprised the death toll isn't much much higher. Having fired off all those rounds directly into the center mass of a crowd that large, some ppl were hit numerous times so he had a pretty decent knowledge of long range shooting.

I doubt anything will be found as to his why he flipped out. So far no notes, emails, texts were discovered and he still had money to live off of. Unless his hatred for country music was just that deep...who knows. His brother sure af looks like he doesn't know what to think.

Some witnesses at ground level said that while everyone was ducking... a few cops were standing, firing pistols towards the windows on the 32nd floor.

That caused Paddock to have to duck himself and take cover a few times. The cops obviously didn't hit him. But certainly distracted him and slowed him down


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 10:52:54 AM
Some good points here.  I won't list them all.

Even highly trained Navy Seals would have a difficult time running a full auto weapon for 10 minutes straight. Such weapon systems are brutal on the operator. They require tremendous strength, stamina and expert troubleshooting to keep running. Full-auto weapons overheat and jam. They demand incredible strength to keep aimed on target. They require expert reloading and weapons clearing in the case of jams, and the hotel room would have been so full of smoke and powder residue that it would be almost impossible to keep breathing from that enclosed space.

Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.

Here are 10+ reasons why the official narrative is complete B.S.


https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html
Just take a look at the vid with the guy with the AR-15 and slide fire stock. Then you'll realize that this whole post is bunk.

Too many loons who believe that they know more than anybody else and have to come up with an alternate reality, because everything like this has to be "bigger than life".


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 11:01:22 AM
That old guy in the video has probably been shooting guns since he was able to pull a trigger.

He did say in the video it takes some practice to to use that type of butt stock


Just take a look at the vid with the guy with the AR-15 and slide fire stock. Then you'll realize that this whole post is bunk.

Too many loons who believe that they know more than anybody else and have to come up with an alternate reality, because everything like this has to be "bigger than life".



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 03, 2017, 11:03:13 AM
I hope getbig starts to address the white on white crime. I won't say anything negative to anyone on here ever again.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 11:04:23 AM
Looks like the old man responded. I like this guy, i watch his youtube videos all the time.



https://www.facebook.com/Hickok45-264641617269/?hc_ref=ARSUheEZasat74CvF09NIvkppuANnITLQpzY35bVFWjIUiJhaT-vicJwq9Z59rmP4p0&fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/Hickok45-264641617269/?hc_ref=ARSUheEZasat74CvF09NIvkppuANnITLQpzY35bVFWjIUiJhaT-vicJwq9Z59rmP4p0&fref=nf)


(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22350_264645452269_7584451_n.jpg?oh=1a9545453442cd8b270060dad8cc051c&oe=5A844E10)


The event in Las Vegas is so, so sad; so much pain for those poor folks and all their families.
Right on schedule, though, while innocent people are still bleeding, the anti-gun / anti-2nd Amendment news media and politicians are pushing their political agenda.
I was not aware that anybody still watched network news or many of these channels these days, but many of you have notified me that NBC, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc. are using footage from our bump fire stock videos to make it look like a few bucks will convert an AK or AR15 to a "real" fully auto firearm.
It sort of does, but not really. I actually don't care for them that much and other than to review them in videos, have never left one on any of my firearms. Anyway, they are perfectly legal stocks and are available at all the major sporting goods stores. I probably could take legal action against these media outlets if I wanted, and many of you have encouraged me to do so.
I've been through these cycles my entire adult life, so nothing the media or politicians try to pull surprises me much, or hardly even gets my attention. It's why I belong to seven or eight gun rights organizations.
I hesitate to give the media more "ammunition," since they already think anything "semi-auto" or "full-auto" is like a nuclear weapon, but in truth the whacko could have carried seven or eight fully loaded 1860 Henry leverguns (Civil War era technology) up to that room and created a similar massacre.

If there's a "gun control" / "people control" measure, other than a police state, that will totally prevent this sort of crazy from doing something like this, let's hear the plan, and we'll all weigh in on it and let our representative know how we want them to vote.
Call me pessimistic, but I don't expect many logical suggestions from the "emotion-based" 2nd Amendment haters.

I encourage everybody to ignore the media and political drama and to think for yourself, even if you come to the conclusion that more gun control / people control is the solution. Please try not to let emotion guide your thinking, though. The survival of the 1st and 2nd Amendments should not be based on emotion; otherwise both would have been gone long ago.




Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 11:05:52 AM
CNN is reporting The Gunman Wired $100,000 to the Philippines


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 11:10:47 AM
Looks like the old man responded. I like this guy, i watch his youtube videos all the time.



https://www.facebook.com/Hickok45-264641617269/?hc_ref=ARSUheEZasat74CvF09NIvkppuANnITLQpzY35bVFWjIUiJhaT-vicJwq9Z59rmP4p0&fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/Hickok45-264641617269/?hc_ref=ARSUheEZasat74CvF09NIvkppuANnITLQpzY35bVFWjIUiJhaT-vicJwq9Z59rmP4p0&fref=nf)


(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22350_264645452269_7584451_n.jpg?oh=1a9545453442cd8b270060dad8cc051c&oe=5A844E10)


The event in Las Vegas is so, so sad; so much pain for those poor folks and all their families.
Right on schedule, though, while innocent people are still bleeding, the anti-gun / anti-2nd Amendment news media and politicians are pushing their political agenda.
I was not aware that anybody still watched network news or many of these channels these days, but many of you have notified me that NBC, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc. are using footage from our bump fire stock videos to make it look like a few bucks will convert an AK or AR15 to a "real" fully auto firearm.
It sort of does, but not really. I actually don't care for them that much and other than to review them in videos, have never left one on any of my firearms. Anyway, they are perfectly legal stocks and are available at all the major sporting goods stores. I probably could take legal action against these media outlets if I wanted, and many of you have encouraged me to do so.
I've been through these cycles my entire adult life, so nothing the media or politicians try to pull surprises me much, or hardly even gets my attention. It's why I belong to seven or eight gun rights organizations.
I hesitate to give the media more "ammunition," since they already think anything "semi-auto" or "full-auto" is like a nuclear weapon, but in truth the whacko could have carried seven or eight fully loaded 1860 Henry leverguns (Civil War era technology) up to that room and created a similar massacre.

If there's a "gun control" / "people control" measure, other than a police state, that will totally prevent this sort of crazy from doing something like this, let's hear the plan, and we'll all weigh in on it and let our representative know how we want them to vote.
Call me pessimistic, but I don't expect many logical suggestions from the "emotion-based" 2nd Amendment haters.

I encourage everybody to ignore the media and political drama and to think for yourself, even if you come to the conclusion that more gun control / people control is the solution. Please try not to let emotion guide your thinking, though. The survival of the 1st and 2nd Amendments should not be based on emotion; otherwise both would have been gone long ago.




He should send me a "thank you" for sending all that traffic his way lol


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 03, 2017, 11:12:47 AM
CNN is reporting The Gunman Wired $100,000 to the Philippines


Impossible, according to getbig investigative experts a few pages back we already knew everything about this guy in the first 12 hours...and he had no international ties.















 ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 03, 2017, 11:15:37 AM
CNN is reporting The Gunman Wired $100,000 to the Philippines
Just google this:
CNN is reporting The Gunman Wired $100,000 to the Philippines
Look at the bullshit sites claiming it.
Yet it's not on CNN's site.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 11:16:43 AM
just turn your tv on., its on their breaking new banner for the last 20 minutes.



Just google this:
CNN is reporting The Gunman Wired $100,000 to the Philippines
Look at the bullshit sites claiming it.
Yet it's not on CNN's site.


but if you want to read it online





https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-shooter-wired-100-000-philippines-last-week-n807141 (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-shooter-wired-100-000-philippines-last-week-n807141)


http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/vegas-shooter-wired-100k-to-girlfriend-in-philippines-days-before-rampage/ (http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/vegas-shooter-wired-100k-to-girlfriend-in-philippines-days-before-rampage/)


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting-live?lf-content=217383560:lb-post-89d970c64176e2c2cd6769224abe5b7d@livefyre.com&hubRefSrc=permalink (http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting-live?lf-content=217383560:lb-post-89d970c64176e2c2cd6769224abe5b7d@livefyre.com&hubRefSrc=permalink)



October 3, 2017 1:38pm EDT
Vegas shooter wired $100,000 to the Philippines

From CNN's Jessica Schneider

A law enforcement official confirms that Stephen Paddock wired $100,000 to the Philippines. However, officials aren’t yet able to see when he sent the money. They also don’t know the recipient. The FBI is working with authorities in the Philippines to determine additional details.

Also, the official reiterated there are still no ties that they’ve seen to international terrorism.

NBC first reported the $100,000 transfer.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 11:23:01 AM

Impossible, according to getbig investigative experts a few pages back we already knew everything about this guy in the first 12 hours...and he had no international ties.















 ::)
Where is his girlfriend from, and what country was she in at the time of the event?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 11:25:28 AM
she is from the philippines, was in japan during shooting, now appears to be back in the philippines


Where is his girlfriend from, and what country was she in at the time of the event?



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: macgyver on October 03, 2017, 11:25:48 AM
Some good points here.  I won't list them all.

Even highly trained Navy Seals would have a difficult time running a full auto weapon for 10 minutes straight. Such weapon systems are brutal on the operator. They require tremendous strength, stamina and expert troubleshooting to keep running. Full-auto weapons overheat and jam. They demand incredible strength to keep aimed on target. They require expert reloading and weapons clearing in the case of jams, and the hotel room would have been so full of smoke and powder residue that it would be almost impossible to keep breathing from that enclosed space.

Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.

Here are 10+ reasons why the official narrative is complete B.S.


https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html


Such bull shit LOL. Good read though.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 11:45:22 AM
.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 11:46:56 AM
she is from the philippines, was in japan during shooting, now appears to be back in the philippines


So more than likely he had wired a ton of money to her. Either for her to live on, because he was going to go out with a bang, or he was planning to join her. My guess is the former than the latter.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 11:47:39 AM
Was Paddock wealthy? I don't mean Bill Gates wealthy, but I read somewhere he had a sizable income.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 03, 2017, 11:51:31 AM
Was Paddock wealthy? I don't mean Bill Gates wealthy, but I read somewhere he had a sizable income.

Apparently he was worth millions


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 11:55:19 AM
Apparently he was worth millions
and he had other properties. Depending on how big, he could use them as shooting ranges.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 11:57:35 AM
just turn your tv on., its on their breaking new banner for the last 20 minutes.




but if you want to read it online





https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-shooter-wired-100-000-philippines-last-week-n807141 (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-shooter-wired-100-000-philippines-last-week-n807141)


http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/vegas-shooter-wired-100k-to-girlfriend-in-philippines-days-before-rampage/ (http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/vegas-shooter-wired-100k-to-girlfriend-in-philippines-days-before-rampage/)


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting-live?lf-content=217383560:lb-post-89d970c64176e2c2cd6769224abe5b7d@livefyre.com&hubRefSrc=permalink (http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting-live?lf-content=217383560:lb-post-89d970c64176e2c2cd6769224abe5b7d@livefyre.com&hubRefSrc=permalink)



October 3, 2017 1:38pm EDT
Vegas shooter wired $100,000 to the Philippines

From CNN's Jessica Schneider

A law enforcement official confirms that Stephen Paddock wired $100,000 to the Philippines. However, officials aren’t yet able to see when he sent the money. They also don’t know the recipient. The FBI is working with authorities in the Philippines to determine additional details.

Also, the official reiterated there are still no ties that they’ve seen to international terrorism.

NBC first reported the $100,000 transfer.

100k isn't like picking up a $500 western union transfer. aint hard to find out where it went


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 12:02:49 PM
100k isn't like picking up a $500 western union transfer. aint hard to find out where it went
exactly. Moving 100k? They can find out where it went.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 12:08:27 PM
small sledge hammer , looks like maybe something used to break the glass


That first weapon definetly looks to have that rapid fire bumpstock , good call efs

(https://media.myfoxbostoncom.cmgdigital.com/photo/2017/10/03/gun-from-vegas-2-on-background_1507031425110_9368841_ver1.0_1280_720.png)


(https://media.myfoxbostoncom.cmgdigital.com/photo/2017/10/03/gun-from-vegas-on-background_1507030608592_9364388_ver1.0_640_360.png)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: James on October 03, 2017, 12:15:42 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbsa1CiO5Ls


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 03, 2017, 12:15:57 PM
Lots of 556 casings around the guy.
You do not need super human strength to fire full auto.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 12:17:26 PM
LOL that looks nothing like him , looks like any other white guy in his 60's


Steve Paddock at Anti-Trump rally (2017) "Hi Steve!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbsa1CiO5Ls


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 12:22:58 PM
LOL that looks nothing like him , looks like any other white guy in his 60's



exactly what i said. the old mexican/filipino lady, she looks like the lady in the mugshot-looking photo, and the asian girl in the main pic they're using of him is super young compared to the other lady.

plus the white guy in the video looks to be with that other white lady at those rallys


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 03, 2017, 12:36:42 PM
Apparently video recorded his massacre:

"Las Vegas madman Stephen Paddock set up a camera inside his hotel room to capture his deadly shooting rampage — and other surveillance in the hallway to alert him as cops closed in on him, according to reports."




 http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/las-vegas-gunman-filmed-himself-during-slaughter/ (http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/las-vegas-gunman-filmed-himself-during-slaughter/)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 12:42:32 PM
Apparently video recorded his massacre:

"Las Vegas madman Stephen Paddock set up a camera inside his hotel room to capture his deadly shooting rampage — and other surveillance in the hallway to alert him as cops closed in on him, according to reports."




 http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/las-vegas-gunman-filmed-himself-during-slaughter/ (http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/las-vegas-gunman-filmed-himself-during-slaughter/)

forgot to post it on FB before he blew his head off.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Rambone on October 03, 2017, 12:52:23 PM
Paddock.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/95f7bb2102bd707cc1f1277a751297cd/tumblr_ox96619doa1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)

That’s gonna stain


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Princess L on October 03, 2017, 12:54:49 PM
 Some very simple questions media keeps asking and should be very easy to answer:  Did he specifically request those rooms?  When?  And how did he get that arsenal up there unnoticed?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 12:55:28 PM

If that is the case, i am shocked he didnt live stream it on Facebook or instagram like all the rest of the attention whores.



Apparently video recorded his massacre:

"Las Vegas madman Stephen Paddock set up a camera inside his hotel room to capture his deadly shooting rampage — and other surveillance in the hallway to alert him as cops closed in on him, according to reports."




 http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/las-vegas-gunman-filmed-himself-during-slaughter/ (http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/las-vegas-gunman-filmed-himself-during-slaughter/)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: James on October 03, 2017, 12:56:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNiRr763gJA


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 12:57:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzwRUuixUeE


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 01:00:35 PM
he is a white guy, probably put it in his golf bag

if he was black probably in a Dj Equipment

mexican, in a case of corona boxes



Some very simple questions media keeps asking and should be very easy to answer:  Did he specifically request those rooms?  When?  And how did he get that arsenal up there unnoticed?

Or, one a at time during his 3 days there,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyFE4yT51Jc




Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Griffith on October 03, 2017, 01:05:22 PM
WHAT DO U DISAGREE WITH

You are obsessed.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 01:09:04 PM
Paddock.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/95f7bb2102bd707cc1f1277a751297cd/tumblr_ox96619doa1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)

that doesn't look real. where's the skull and brain-matter on the floor? his brain would've spilled out when he fell. why's there blood on his shirt? why is there blood gurggled up over his face traveling up his nose and face?

looks fake as fuck.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 03, 2017, 01:10:12 PM
Some very simple questions media keeps asking and should be very easy to answer:  Did he specifically request those rooms?  When?  And how did he get that arsenal up there unnoticed?



he probably brought them in dissassembled... And reassembled the guns in his room


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 01:14:09 PM
you should see the Fucking machines whores bring up to their rooms during porn award time


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 03, 2017, 01:15:41 PM
A motive in a note?

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/649606/Las-Vegas-Shooting-Pictures-Stephen-Paddock-Body-Motive-Note-Gun-Hotel-Room-Mandalay-Bay





Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 03, 2017, 01:23:07 PM
Some very simple questions media keeps asking and should be very easy to answer:  Did he specifically request those rooms?  When?  And how did he get that arsenal up there unnoticed?

Yes, you figure he would be on video doing that, right?  Casinos have cameras everywhere.

Why does the ends of those gun barrels look so clean?  If he fired anywhere near 100 rounds through them, they would be dirty as hell.

Firing that many rounds in a hotel would create tons of smoke.  Why didn't the smoke alarm and sprinkler systems get triggered?

A motive note too... how convenient!

Now there is info out there that he filmed himself during the shootings.  Let's see that?  Damn, this Paddock guy was damn good at multi-tasking!



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 03, 2017, 01:28:03 PM
Yes, you figure he would be on video doing that, right?  Casinos have cameras everywhere.

Why does the ends of those gun barrels look so clean?  If he fired anywhere near 100 rounds through them, they would be dirty as hell.

Firing that many rounds in a hotel would create tons of smoke.  Why didn't the smoke alarm and sprinkler systems get triggered?

A motive note too... how convenient!

Now there is info out there that he filmed himself during the shootings.  Let's see that?  Damn, this Paddock guy was damn good at multi-tasking!



I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out that many of the deaths occurred as a result of people being trampled.

I’m sure the old as shit Getbiggers all remember this:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_concert_disaster

The Who concert disaster occurred on December 3, 1979 when British rock band the Who performed at Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnati, Ohio, United States, and a stampede of concert-goers outside the coliseum's entry doors resulted in the deaths of eleven people.[1][2


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 03, 2017, 01:32:57 PM
2008, a simpler time.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Ted SuperSet on October 03, 2017, 01:36:16 PM
2008, a simpler time.

Got to get me a pair of NewBalance some day (i may). The pinacle of badassness.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 03, 2017, 01:37:12 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out that many of the deaths occurred as a result of people being trampled.

I’m sure the old as shit Getbiggers all remember this:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_concert_disaster

The Who concert disaster occurred on December 3, 1979 when British rock band the Who performed at Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnati, Ohio, United States, and a stampede of concert-goers outside the coliseum's entry doors resulted in the deaths of eleven people.[1][2

In this case, with a sniper unloading an AK-47 (or whatever) from a elevated location, I'd imagine that nearly all of the deaths were from bullet wounds.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: gym**rat on October 03, 2017, 01:49:38 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out that many of the deaths occurred as a result of people being trampled.

I’m sure the old as shit Getbiggers all remember this:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_concert_disaster

The Who concert disaster occurred on December 3, 1979 when British rock band the Who performed at Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnati, Ohio, United States, and a stampede of concert-goers outside the coliseum's entry doors resulted in the deaths of eleven people.[1][2

Oh yea, I remember it well. I came home for a few weeks back to Indianapolis, I had moved to Orlando about 6 months prior. Me and a buddy had plans on going. He bailed out the day before saying he had other plans already and forgot. I was so pissed at him. He told me a few days after the stampede that he had a really bad feeling about going to this concert but didn't want to tell me that because I would have called him a pussy, which I would have.  ;)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 01:54:35 PM
I thought about the double denim demon also when this went down



2008, a simpler time.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Rambone on October 03, 2017, 02:00:02 PM
2008, a simpler time.

PIP Bobby Sly! Hope he was buried in those NBs


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 02:04:53 PM
he'd need practice and at least a working knowledge of ballistics and bullet trajectory and making adjustments for the angle and that angle would change depending on the room he got. the angle of trajectory firing from the 32nd floor is different from firing from the 48th floor or the 4th floor.

he'd also need to use a range finder and know the distance to adjust his point of aim, and it'd help if he actually had experience in making adjustments for everything.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/95f7bb2102bd707cc1f1277a751297cd/tumblr_ox96619doa1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)
during my time training LAPD forensic scientists I attended many suicide scenes and most of them looked just like the photo above.

There were others that looked different of course, it can depend on the calibre of bullet and angle of the shot, you can never really predict what its going to look like.

Only a total fucking moron would look at the picture and make idiotic comments about how "it looks fake"


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 02:11:42 PM
During my time training police marksmen it soon became apparent that you can cause multiple casualties by simply spraying machine gun fire into a large crowd with almost no firearm training whatsoever.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Meta-physical on October 03, 2017, 02:13:57 PM
he'd need practice and at least a working knowledge of ballistics and bullet trajectory and making adjustments for the angle and that angle would change depending on the room he got. the angle of trajectory firing from the 32nd floor is different from firing from the 48th floor or the 4th floor.

he'd also need to use a range finder and know the distance to adjust his point of aim, and it'd help if he actually had experience in making adjustments for everything.

Sorry, Eric, but that's nonsense.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Ted SuperSet on October 03, 2017, 02:16:55 PM
he'd need practice and at least a working knowledge of ballistics and bullet trajectory and making adjustments for the angle and that angle would change depending on the room he got. the angle of trajectory firing from the 32nd floor is different from firing from the 48th floor or the 4th floor.

he'd also need to use a range finder and know the distance to adjust his point of aim, and it'd help if he actually had experience in making adjustments for everything.

Piew piew piew!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 02:17:09 PM
During my time training police marksmen it soon became apparent that you can cause multiple casualties by simply spraying machine gun fire into a large crowd with almost no firearm training whatsoever.


And what does your training say about this happy broad ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqkY84sJEf4


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Dan-O on October 03, 2017, 02:20:02 PM

And what does your training say about this happy broad ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqkY84sJEf4

Oh geeze.  Really???  She was in shock.  People in shock display all kinds of seemingly inappropriate reactions.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: TTfit on October 03, 2017, 02:20:10 PM
that doesn't look real. where's the skull and brain-matter on the floor? his brain would've spilled out when he fell. why's there blood on his shirt? why is there blood gurggled up over his face traveling up his nose and face?

looks fake as fuck.

This doesn't look fake to me. You've been watching too many movies.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 02:21:19 PM
bullshit, she was just happy to be on TV




Oh geeze.  Really???  She was in shock.  People in shock display all kinds of seemingly inappropriate reactions.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 02:21:36 PM
Sorry, Eric, but that's nonsense.

Hunting deer or elk and shooting uphill or downhill is different from shooting flat.
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/95f7bb2102bd707cc1f1277a751297cd/tumblr_ox96619doa1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)
during my time training LAPD forensic scientists I attended many suicide scenes and most of them looked just like the photo above.

There were others that looked different of course, it can depend on the calibre of bullet and angle of the shot, you can never really predict what its going to look like.

Only a total fucking moron would look at the picture and make idiotic comments about how "it looks fake"

Really? What years were you there? My buddies wife works for the FBI in Los Angeles as a forensic pathologist. Maybe  she remembers you


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 02:22:14 PM

And what does your training say about this happy broad ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqkY84sJEf4

No such thing as normal behaviour when people are in shock.

Amanda Knox was doing cartwheels in the police station when she was arrested.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 02:23:53 PM
Hunting deer or elk and shooting uphill or downhill is different from shooting flat.
Really? What years were you there? My buddies wife works for the FBI in Los Angeles as a forensic pathologist. Maybe  she remembers you

There was a time when I would have pressed you on that, not anymore, I think you really believe it.. :-*


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 02:29:43 PM
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/22215042_1432759756759594_773744881_n.jpg?oh=c35e3c045771f7d39b87272f6539e32a&oe=59D6B7AC)

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/22237272_1432760173426219_323393172_n.jpg?oh=52bcebabddf4d665e6efe0b2e8f7fcdd&oe=59D64EAB)




Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Meta-physical on October 03, 2017, 02:45:07 PM
Hunting deer or elk and shooting uphill or downhill is different from shooting flat.
Really? What years were you there? My buddies wife works for the FBI in Los Angeles as a forensic pathologist. Maybe  she remembers you
What you described would be more applicable to someone shooting a deer, elk, or some other individual target at a considerable distance, and using a type of rifle that would require making specific adjustments. In this case, the individual was firing indiscriminately into a large crowd from a stable, elevated position. He was simply putting rounds down into the general area in the hope of hitting as many people as he could. It would require nothing more than a basic understanding of how to operate the weapon.

Similarly, the article posted by Walter makes numerous errors. Firstly, it doesn't require much physical effort at all to fire the type of weapons that he used. No 'incredible strength' is required to keep them 'on target' when the target is a concert full of people, and clearing a stoppage is as simple as it is on any other similar rifle. Also, it may well be the case that these weapons would be prone to overheating and jamming when being fired for a considerable length of time, but the shooter obviously considered this by ensuring that he was equipped with numerous backup rifles. Heavy, belt-fed types of machine guns often require the operator to switch barrels when firing them for a sustained period to avoid a 'runaway gun' or melted barrel; but this wasn't a concern here. As for the enclosed space, build-up of smoke, and issue of the fire alarm - he was firing from an open window; it was a ventilated room and he may well have done something as simple as sticking a condom over the smoke alarm, if not disabling it beforehand. People read far too much into these events.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 02:47:25 PM
What you described would be more applicable to someone shooting a deer, elk, or some other individual target at a considerable distance, and using a type of rifle that would require making specific adjustments. In this case, the individual was firing indiscriminately into a large crowd from a stable, elevated position. He was simply putting rounds down into the general area in the hope of hitting as many people as he could. It would require nothing more than a basic understanding of how to operate the weapon.

Similarly, the article posted by Walter makes numerous errors. Firstly, it doesn't require much physical effort at all to fire the type of weapons that he used. No 'incredible strength' is required to keep them 'on target' when the target is a concert full of people, and clearing a stoppage is as simple as it is on any other similar rifle. Also, it may well be the case that these weapons would be prone to overheating and jamming when being fired for a considerable length of time, but the shooter obviously considered this by ensuring that he was equipped with numerous backup rifles. Heavy, belt-fed types of machine guns often require the operator to switch barrels when firing them for a sustained period to avoid a 'runaway gun' or melted barrel; but this wasn't a concern here. As for the enclosed space, build-up of smoke, and issue of the fire alarm - he was firing from an open window; it was a ventilated room and he may well have done something as simple as sticking a condom over the smoke alarm, if not disabling it beforehand. People read far too much into these events.

you are totally wrong, he wont explain why though.....apart from that he has a vast knowledge of weapons guns and discharging them into people.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 02:49:12 PM
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/22236258_1432773916758178_1416656726_n.jpg?oh=6a6b3b8f30c8372e13f9ba22e6b0c81f&oe=59D67079)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UDCvnh3QZhE/movieposter.jpg)
 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 02:49:42 PM
Apparently video recorded his massacre:

"Las Vegas madman Stephen Paddock set up a camera inside his hotel room to capture his deadly shooting rampage — and other surveillance in the hallway to alert him as cops closed in on him, according to reports."




 http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/las-vegas-gunman-filmed-himself-during-slaughter/ (http://nypost.com/2017/10/03/las-vegas-gunman-filmed-himself-during-slaughter/)

 :o


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 03, 2017, 02:54:48 PM
that doesn't look real. where's the skull and brain-matter on the floor? his brain would've spilled out when he fell. why's there blood on his shirt? why is there blood gurggled up over his face traveling up his nose and face?

looks fake as fuck.

The picture looks very realistic.  That's a 38 on the floor next to him.  It's possible it didn't even exit.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 02:57:17 PM
The picture looks very realistic.  That's a 38 on the floor next to him.  It's possible it didn't even exit.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a4f_1378532046



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 03:01:51 PM
you are totally wrong, he wont explain why though.....apart from that he has a vast knowledge of weapons guns and discharging them into people.

 :D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 03, 2017, 03:03:31 PM
I know there were times in my career where I would use this board to support my theories in many investigations. Blew the prosecutors minds...
Sir, please turn in your gun and badge......


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 03, 2017, 03:09:36 PM
Looks like the old man responded. I like this guy, i watch his youtube videos all the time.



https://www.facebook.com/Hickok45-264641617269/?hc_ref=ARSUheEZasat74CvF09NIvkppuANnITLQpzY35bVFWjIUiJhaT-vicJwq9Z59rmP4p0&fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/Hickok45-264641617269/?hc_ref=ARSUheEZasat74CvF09NIvkppuANnITLQpzY35bVFWjIUiJhaT-vicJwq9Z59rmP4p0&fref=nf)


(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22350_264645452269_7584451_n.jpg?oh=1a9545453442cd8b270060dad8cc051c&oe=5A844E10)


The event in Las Vegas is so, so sad; so much pain for those poor folks and all their families.
Right on schedule, though, while innocent people are still bleeding, the anti-gun / anti-2nd Amendment news media and politicians are pushing their political agenda.
I was not aware that anybody still watched network news or many of these channels these days, but many of you have notified me that NBC, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc. are using footage from our bump fire stock videos to make it look like a few bucks will convert an AK or AR15 to a "real" fully auto firearm.
It sort of does, but not really. I actually don't care for them that much and other than to review them in videos, have never left one on any of my firearms. Anyway, they are perfectly legal stocks and are available at all the major sporting goods stores. I probably could take legal action against these media outlets if I wanted, and many of you have encouraged me to do so.
I've been through these cycles my entire adult life, so nothing the media or politicians try to pull surprises me much, or hardly even gets my attention. It's why I belong to seven or eight gun rights organizations.
I hesitate to give the media more "ammunition," since they already think anything "semi-auto" or "full-auto" is like a nuclear weapon, but in truth the whacko could have carried seven or eight fully loaded 1860 Henry leverguns (Civil War era technology) up to that room and created a similar massacre.

If there's a "gun control" / "people control" measure, other than a police state, that will totally prevent this sort of crazy from doing something like this, let's hear the plan, and we'll all weigh in on it and let our representative know how we want them to vote.
Call me pessimistic, but I don't expect many logical suggestions from the "emotion-based" 2nd Amendment haters.

I encourage everybody to ignore the media and political drama and to think for yourself, even if you come to the conclusion that more gun control / people control is the solution. Please try not to let emotion guide your thinking, though. The survival of the 1st and 2nd Amendments should not be based on emotion; otherwise both would have been gone long ago.




Same, this guy's a great shooter, nice setup in his yard...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: loco on October 03, 2017, 03:28:46 PM
mexican, in a case of corona boxes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSqTzLKhlXM


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 03:47:02 PM
The picture looks very realistic.  That's a 38 on the floor next to him.  It's possible it didn't even exit.

how'd the .38 get above his head? looks like he shot himself (according to the pic) in the mouth.

why is so much blood pouring out of his mouth upward while he's laying down flat?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 03, 2017, 03:50:26 PM
how'd the .38 get above his head? looks like he shot himself (according to the pic) in the mouth.

why is so much blood pouring out of his mouth upward while he's laying down flat?

Maybe the 38 fell and bounced?  Maybe he had muscular contractions and threw the gun?  When someone shoots themselves in the head, blood can come out of everywhere.  Mouth, nose, ears.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 03, 2017, 03:54:41 PM
how'd the .38 get above his head? looks like he shot himself (according to the pic) in the mouth.

why is so much blood pouring out of his mouth upward while he's laying down flat?

SWAT probably shot his corpse a few times when the entered his room. Their adrenaline was probably quite high and they saw a human.... and shot...

...probably wanted to be certain that he wasn't faking


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 04:03:45 PM
Cops say he filmed everything. If/When we eventually watch, it'll show exactly what the OFFICIAL NARRATIVE purports. Every doubt, speculation, and ridiculous conspiracy theory will be debunked in a 10-15 minute LiveLeak viewing.

And the fantasy world retards will then create another.  


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 04:10:40 PM
Cops say he filmed everything. If/When we eventually watch, it'll show exactly what the OFFICIAL NARRATIVE purports. Every doubt, speculation, and ridiculous conspiracy theory will be debunked in a 10-15 minute LiveLeak viewing.

And the fantasy world retards will then create another.  

The conspiracy theorists will then say the video camera footage has been altered.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 04:11:59 PM
The conspiracy theorists will then say the video camera footage has been altered.



Of course. No limit to the bullshit these InfoWars fucktards will swallow.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 04:18:54 PM
how'd the .38 get above his head? looks like he shot himself (according to the pic) in the mouth.

why is so much blood pouring out of his mouth upward while he's laying down flat?


They can't fool you can they? With your extensive knowledge and expertise in all fields and aspects of life why personal training?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: macgyver on October 03, 2017, 04:22:35 PM

They can't fool you can they? With your extensive knowledge and expertise in all fields and aspects of life why personal training?


 ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 04:22:49 PM
News had said that he had looked into getting rooms during a Chance The Rapper Concert, but couldn't. This dude seemed like he just wanted to shoot up a concert. But the question is "why?" Seems like his brother and family didn't really know that he was going through some issues.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 03, 2017, 04:23:50 PM

They can't fool you can they? With your extensive knowledge and expertise in all fields and aspects of life why personal training?

Personal training?  I'm not in training?   ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 03, 2017, 04:24:28 PM
Of course. No limit to the bullshit these InfoWars fucktards will swallow.

This type of story is like Christmas morning for conspiracy nuts.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 04:35:47 PM
Gotta love the "world has changed" quote from the Vegas chief. No shit, but not with this here. The world started changing with Columbine/Internet, and it keeps changing every few years:

"What's the top score?" asks Joe Murder-Suicide.

"Virginia Tech - no! Orlando, Joe. 49. Why?"

As the last suicidal murderer's record falls to the new champ, next guy's already planning to top it. Enjoy your Tuesday evening, America.  


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 03, 2017, 04:38:45 PM
Looks like a older chaos


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 04:44:01 PM
News had said that he had looked into getting rooms during a Chance The Rapper Concert, but couldn't. This dude seemed like he just wanted to shoot up a concert. But the question is "why?" Seems like his brother and family didn't really know that he was going through some issues.

'Why' on a concert is obvious: numbers.

Why on motive is still bizarre as fuck. But I hear his gal recently left the country permanently, which wrinkles stuff up some. Why did she leave and what did she know? Did her leaving set him off?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 04:45:20 PM
'Why' on a concert is obvious: numbers.

Why on motive is still bizarre as fuck. But I hear his gal recently left the country permanently, which wrinkles stuff up some. Why did she leave and what did she know? Did her leaving set him off?

I just read that she is coming back tomorrow. I wonder if that was planned or she is being "forced" to return to the states.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 04:46:51 PM
He is a millionaire , all he has to do is order another filip off the catalog

he should of gone Colombian the next time around, better quality pussy and a lot less for transportation



'Why' on a concert is obvious: numbers.

Why on motive is still bizarre as fuck. But I hear his gal recently left the country permanently, which wrinkles stuff up some. Why did she leave and what did she know? Did her leaving set him off?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 04:48:02 PM
This type of story is like Christmas morning for conspiracy nuts.

EVERY story is, long as it makes the news.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 04:50:35 PM
I just read that she is coming back tomorrow. I wonder if that was planned or she is being "forced" to return to the states.

Ahh. Don't care why, just need to hear what she's got.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 03, 2017, 04:51:01 PM
'Why' on a concert is obvious: numbers.

Why on motive is still bizarre as fuck. But I hear his gal recently left the country permanently, which wrinkles stuff up some. Why did she leave and what did she know? Did her leaving set him off?


Did they find his gun supplier? How long ago did he start buying the weapons? Maybe a lot of the purchases occurred the day that she left the States.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 04:52:56 PM
EVERY story is, long as it makes the news.
Because those people don't deal in reality.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 03, 2017, 05:02:19 PM

Did they find his gun supplier? How long ago did he start buying the weapons? Maybe a lot of the purchases occurred the day that she left the States.

The investigation into Mr. Paddock’s gun arsenal led investigators to New Frontier Armory, a large North Las Vegas dealer, distributor and manufacturer of firearms.

David M. Famiglietti, the company’s president, issued a statement on Tuesday confirming that Mr. Paddock purchased “several” rifles and shotguns from the business last spring — all at the same time. It’s not uncommon for customers to do this to save money on background check fees, Mr. Famiglietti said.

“The firearms he purchased did not leave our store capable of what we’ve seen and heard in the video without modification,” he said. “They were not fully automatic firearms, nor were they modified in any way — legally or illegally — when they were purchased from us.”

Mr. Famiglietti said that nothing about Mr. Paddock raised red flags with the store’s sales clerk. On the contrary, according to Mr. Famiglietti, Mr. Paddock seemed to be interested in competitive shooting, asking the clerk a lot of questions about three-gun shooting matches — an increasingly popular sport in which players use a rifle, a shotgun and a pistol.

“He just seemed like a normal guy,” said Mr. Famiglietti, whose store has been the target of hate mail, threatening phone calls and fake reviews since the shooting. “We obviously did not sell him these firearms with the intent that he would use them to hurt anyone in any way.”

On Monday, a Mesquite, Nev., gun dealer, Guns & Guitars, acknowledged having sold two rifles and a handgun to Mr. Paddock. Like the purchases at Frontier, those were cleared by state and federal background checks.

The gunman was ‘not an avid gun guy at all,’ said one of his brothers.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 05:03:08 PM

They can't fool you can they? With your extensive knowledge and expertise in all fields and aspects of life why personal training?

you insecure because i'm talking about guns? in the midwest when i was 5-6yrs old and in the Cub Scouts as a "Tiger Cub" or whatever we're called, first prize i choose from winning the Trails End popcorn selling contest was a rifle, which i'd shoot from sun up till sun down on my grandpa's farm. pretty soon you're shooting .30-.06's and .30-.30's (.308 & .223 weren't popular there back then for whatever reason. didn't see either of them till later). so maybe i have some experience with rifles. also rode & worked on quads and 3-wheelers and tractors. come to think of it, i'm not sure what i did first. drove a tractor or rode a bicycle. so i've done a lot of shit... if that makes you insecure, maybe you should get out of the house.

and your question "why personal training?". PT is one of the things i do. not the only thing.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 05:07:16 PM
The investigation into Mr. Paddock’s gun arsenal led investigators to New Frontier Armory, a large North Las Vegas dealer, distributor and manufacturer of firearms.

David M. Famiglietti, the company’s president, issued a statement on Tuesday confirming that Mr. Paddock purchased “several” rifles and shotguns from the business last spring — all at the same time. It’s not uncommon for customers to do this to save money on background check fees, Mr. Famiglietti said.

“The firearms he purchased did not leave our store capable of what we’ve seen and heard in the video without modification,” he said. “They were not fully automatic firearms, nor were they modified in any way — legally or illegally — when they were purchased from us.”

Mr. Famiglietti said that nothing about Mr. Paddock raised red flags with the store’s sales clerk. On the contrary, according to Mr. Famiglietti, Mr. Paddock seemed to be interested in competitive shooting, asking the clerk a lot of questions about three-gun shooting matches — an increasingly popular sport in which players use a rifle, a shotgun and a pistol.

“He just seemed like a normal guy,” said Mr. Famiglietti, whose store has been the target of hate mail, threatening phone calls and fake reviews since the shooting. “We obviously did not sell him these firearms with the intent that he would use them to hurt anyone in any way.”

On Monday, a Mesquite, Nev., gun dealer, Guns & Guitars, acknowledged having sold two rifles and a handgun to Mr. Paddock. Like the purchases at Frontier, those were cleared by state and federal background checks.

The gunman was ‘not an avid gun guy at all,’ said one of his brothers.

people are writing letters and wastng stamps? must be pretty fast mail. it's only tuesday.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 05:08:40 PM
The investigation into Mr. Paddock’s gun arsenal led investigators to New Frontier Armory, a large North Las Vegas dealer, distributor and manufacturer of firearms.

David M. Famiglietti, the company’s president, issued a statement on Tuesday confirming that Mr. Paddock purchased “several” rifles and shotguns from the business last spring — all at the same time. It’s not uncommon for customers to do this to save money on background check fees, Mr. Famiglietti said.

“The firearms he purchased did not leave our store capable of what we’ve seen and heard in the video without modification,” he said. “They were not fully automatic firearms, nor were they modified in any way — legally or illegally — when they were purchased from us.”

Mr. Famiglietti said that nothing about Mr. Paddock raised red flags with the store’s sales clerk. On the contrary, according to Mr. Famiglietti, Mr. Paddock seemed to be interested in competitive shooting, asking the clerk a lot of questions about three-gun shooting matches — an increasingly popular sport in which players use a rifle, a shotgun and a pistol.

“He just seemed like a normal guy,” said Mr. Famiglietti, whose store has been the target of hate mail, threatening phone calls and fake reviews since the shooting. “We obviously did not sell him these firearms with the intent that he would use them to hurt anyone in any way.”

On Monday, a Mesquite, Nev., gun dealer, Guns & Guitars, acknowledged having sold two rifles and a handgun to Mr. Paddock. Like the purchases at Frontier, those were cleared by state and federal background checks.

The gunman was ‘not an avid gun guy at all,’ said one of his brothers.
Last part. The brother should have added "that I know of".


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 05:09:51 PM
The question that remains:

Is there anything that ESFITNESS has NOT done?

Every time someone mentions a topic, ESFITNESS has done it or done it better.

What a guy!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 05:10:04 PM
He is a millionaire , all he has to do is order another filip off the catalog

That gal wasn't a paid-for trophy. If he loved her, anything's possible.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on October 03, 2017, 05:13:01 PM
That gal wasn't a paid-for trophy. If he loved her, anything's possible.

Girlie looks like an ESFitness gun moll/bath nurse.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 05:14:06 PM

Did they find his gun supplier? How long ago did he start buying the weapons? Maybe a lot of the purchases occurred the day that she left the States.

One of 'em, at least, Guns 'n Guitars or something. Local place, guy's been interviewed. Heard he bought stuff in CA, too. Definitely stockpiling here recent.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2017, 05:14:18 PM
That gal wasn't a paid-for trophy. If he loved her, anything's possible.
She was 62, he was 64.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 05:14:45 PM
The question that remains:

Is there anything that ESFITNESS has NOT done?

Every time someone mentions a topic, ESFITNESS has done it or done it better.

What a guy!

how the fuck have i "done it better"?

you trolls really need counseling.

and what "have i done"? shoot a rifle? wow... really setting myself apart there eh?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 05:17:36 PM
One of 'em, at least, Guns 'n Guitars or something. Local place, guy's been interviewed. Heard he bought stuff in CA, too. Definitely stockpiling here recent.

i'd assume the selection and prices would've been much better in NV. hell, if he were gonna go anywhere, it should've been south to AZ.... then again, it'd be a better idea to not be crossing state lines n stuf.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 05:26:02 PM
Because those people don't deal in reality.

Nope. They see what they believe.

Like religidiots.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 05:27:50 PM
Girlie looks like an ESFitness gun moll/bath nurse.


Plot thickens.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Princess L on October 03, 2017, 05:30:45 PM
Yes, you figure he would be on video doing that, right?  Casinos have cameras everywhere.

Why does the ends of those gun barrels look so clean?  If he fired anywhere near 100 rounds through them, they would be dirty as hell.

Firing that many rounds in a hotel would create tons of smoke.  Why didn't the smoke alarm and sprinkler systems get triggered?

A motive note too... how convenient!

Now there is info out there that he filmed himself during the shootings.  Let's see that?  Damn, this Paddock guy was damn good at multi-tasking!



They did


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 05:37:05 PM
She was 62.

Right, and weathered.

Just addressing the fella's Melania-type assumption. Don't think she's a rich guy's paid sidepiece is all.  


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 06:15:47 PM
Paddock.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/95f7bb2102bd707cc1f1277a751297cd/tumblr_ox96619doa1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)

Where'd you find this?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 06:20:19 PM
you insecure because i'm talking about guns? in the midwest when i was 5-6yrs old and in the Cub Scouts as a "Tiger Cub" or whatever we're called, first prize i choose from winning the Trails End popcorn selling contest was a rifle, which i'd shoot from sun up till sun down on my grandpa's farm. pretty soon you're shooting .30-.06's and .30-.30's (.308 & .223 weren't popular there back then for whatever reason. didn't see either of them till later). so maybe i have some experience with rifles. also rode & worked on quads and 3-wheelers and tractors. come to think of it, i'm not sure what i did first. drove a tractor or rode a bicycle. so i've done a lot of shit... if that makes you insecure, maybe you should get out of the house.

and your question "why personal training?". PT is one of the things i do. not the only thing.

Uhh, no...can you tell us about the time you spent as a crime scene investigator? 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 06:21:24 PM
Uhh, no...can you tell us about the time you spent as a crime scene investigator? 

Insecure much?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 06:22:08 PM
Where'd you find this?

It was leaked.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 03, 2017, 06:22:48 PM
The responses I’m seeing from liberals is that on one hand they want the guy labeled a terrorist because he’s white, on the other, they don’t want his political views analyzed for fear that he might be liberal.

Bingo.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 03, 2017, 06:25:13 PM
Watched interviews of his neighbor and brother and they are in disbelief. Kinda makes you wonder. What if this guy just happened to be in a room that "someone" needed.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 03, 2017, 06:33:10 PM
Watched interviews of his neighbor and brother and they are in disbelief. Kinda makes you wonder. What if this guy just happened to be in a room that "someone" needed.

Uhhhh, the weapons are linked to him.  Plus, he rented another hotel, overlooking a concert.  He definitely planned it.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 06:33:42 PM
Insecure much?

Of an autistic samurai? No...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 06:34:21 PM
Watched interviews of his neighbor and brother and they are in disbelief. Kinda makes you wonder. What if this guy just happened to be in a room that "someone" needed.

Huh?

He was is a room with 23 firearms, what are we talking about here?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 06:34:55 PM
It was leaked.

Figured as much, specific site?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: kh300 on October 03, 2017, 06:35:32 PM
I blame his mother. She had kids with a piece of shit convicted criminal who was in and out of jail..No surprise they produced another criminal psychopath. Woman need to be held accountable for who they choose to breed with.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 06:38:04 PM
Is anybody aware of the shooting that took place at ceasars palace 15 minutes after mandalay bay? The media hasn't said anything about it. I swear I remember seeing something in the police scanner transcripts about them responding to other calls at the same time but I can't find them anymore.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 06:38:40 PM
Figured as much, specific site?

/pol/


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 06:40:31 PM
I blame his mother. She had kids with a piece of shit convicted criminal who was in and out of jail..No surprise they produced another criminal psychopath. Woman need to be held accountable for who they choose to breed with.

The father was mentally ill right?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 03, 2017, 06:45:01 PM
Uhhhh, the weapons are linked to him.  Plus, he rented another hotel, overlooking a concert.  He definitely planned it.

Says who?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 03, 2017, 06:45:46 PM
Huh?

He was is a room with 23 firearms, what are we talking about here?


Yes he was. So what's your point?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 06:45:54 PM
Says who?

The ATF, purchased in Nevada.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 03, 2017, 06:52:22 PM
Says who?

Says the gun shop owner that sold them to him.  He already stated paddock came in and bought a bunch of guns all at once.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: kh300 on October 03, 2017, 06:53:08 PM
The father was mentally ill right?

Yes. Complete piece of shit


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 07:01:34 PM

Yes he was. So what's your point?

I had a question. Question isn't a point. Don't really have the interest in explaining how this all works, though.

Have a pleasant night.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 07:02:43 PM
/pol/

No idea what this means, but thanks for pic.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 07:04:09 PM
No idea what this means, but thanks for pic.


the political section in 4chan

i still cant understand the 4chan thread format , it just turns me off in 40 seconds of browsing


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 03, 2017, 07:07:06 PM
I had a question. Question isn't a point. Don't really have the interest in explaining how this all works, though.

Have a pleasant night.

 ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 07:13:21 PM
No idea what this means, but thanks for pic.

This is the reporter that got the exclusive pics.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/bf25a5ea17c30382250f17aa81a3066c/tumblr_oxa0mcs1Mu1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)































Snow bunny...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 03, 2017, 07:16:05 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22195419_510077792702305_7781738982053419108_n.jpg?oh=e6d66238f9d08b13d40d8b4de6f01a57&oe=5A77C19E)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 03, 2017, 07:18:09 PM
The ATF, purchased in Nevada.

Source?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 03, 2017, 07:26:22 PM
Las Vegas Metro Sheriff Joseph Lombardo:   "Did this person get radicalized unbeknownst to us and we want to identify that source."

He also made a general statement: "When I say I do not know, I may know".



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqEa2YXUVxc


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 07:36:47 PM
Source?

Seriously? In the time you took to respond you could of googled it and saw the multiple links including the statements of two gunshop owners...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2017, 07:37:37 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22195419_510077792702305_7781738982053419108_n.jpg?oh=e6d66238f9d08b13d40d8b4de6f01a57&oe=5A77C19E)

Plus, what happens in Vegas ...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 07:41:15 PM
How'd they find out all this info so quickly?  And have time to get it to the press? And the 4th floor shooter was ignored until recently. I never saw the 4th floor stuff mentioned or any reporters Sking about it at the sherrifs press conference. Shit all seems to quick and convenient


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 03, 2017, 07:44:56 PM
Seriously? In the time you took to respond you could of googled it and saw the multiple links including the statements of two gunshop owners...

Seriously? In the time you took to type this you could have posted the links?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 03, 2017, 08:01:25 PM
Las Vegas Metro Sheriff Joseph Lombardo:   "Did this person get radicalized unbeknownst to us and we want to identify that source."

He also made a general statement: "When I say I do not know, I may know".



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqEa2YXUVxc


When I heard the first statement live earlier today I thought maybe he let that slip. It was a statement more than answering a question.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 09:38:26 PM
The question that remains:

Is there anything that ESFITNESS has NOT done?

Every time someone mentions a topic, ESFITNESS has done it or done it better.

What a guy!

you only just noticed...?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 09:42:28 PM
you only just noticed...?

Of course not, but reached my tipping point today!  ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 09:44:52 PM
Of course not, but reached my tipping point today!  ;D
I dont think you are alone, up until recently people just let it pass, he just keeps upping the anti, I think he just craves attention, even negative attention is attention.

Hes the guy who shit his pants at school, without the load in his underwear no one acknowledges him, he would rather shit his pants and get at least some attention.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 03, 2017, 10:16:19 PM
you only just noticed...?

noticed you misquoting me? and attributing things to me that i didn't say?

you think nobody else notices you do that? for somebody who needs as much attention as you, you'd think you'd realize everybody notices.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 03, 2017, 10:18:04 PM
noticed you misquoting me? and attributing things to me that i didn't say?

you think nobody else notices you do that? for somebody who needs as much attention as you, you'd think you'd realize everybody notices.
can you stop chasing me around the forum responding to my posts please, I promised to leave you alone...dont make yourself look any sillier than you already have.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: B R on October 03, 2017, 10:51:04 PM
Sorry, Eric, but that's nonsense.

This. But to be fair that quote applies tho 99.9% of his posts.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 11:04:44 PM
I will post as much background info we have dug up about Stephen and his fullofpeeno whore. She was taken into custody by the feds an hour ago.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/ff34592694febf5c48a274599ae0c5dc/tumblr_oxaatwny4j1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/305e278664919d1294ecc87304865f7c/tumblr_oxaautYlvC1wd3uyro1_540.png)

The media is lying to you. There were mutiple shootings.

Police scanner transcript
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/e56f10f8e8600a9941ca656448e6345a/tumblr_oxab19JrjG1wd3uyro1_1280.png)

Witness of the shooting at caesars palace.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/78f0d2a31e9b0af7e30da0ab152d8092/tumblr_oxab8xEkoP1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/07f345e0f0d41b8dafb0e7be1f93dbd0/tumblr_oxab70hwF31wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 03, 2017, 11:09:57 PM
I will post as much background info we have dug up about Stephen and his fullofpeeno whore. She was taken into custody by the feds an hour ago.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/ff34592694febf5c48a274599ae0c5dc/tumblr_oxaatwny4j1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/305e278664919d1294ecc87304865f7c/tumblr_oxaautYlvC1wd3uyro1_540.png)

The media is lying to you. There were mutiple shootings.

Police scanner transcript
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/e56f10f8e8600a9941ca656448e6345a/tumblr_oxab19JrjG1wd3uyro1_1280.png)

Witness of the shooting at caesars palace.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/78f0d2a31e9b0af7e30da0ab152d8092/tumblr_oxab8xEkoP1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/07f345e0f0d41b8dafb0e7be1f93dbd0/tumblr_oxab70hwF31wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)



I was reading this on 4chan tonight. I mentioned the multiple shooters earlier in the thread after listening to the scanner tape and watching the videos.  

Good stuff on 4chan especially on the gf whore!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 03, 2017, 11:13:20 PM
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/6685c2f4e6c384593ea69c009e646e96/tumblr_oxabwvwvKe1wd3uyro1_1280.png)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 11:39:38 PM
The media is lying go you?

Or the investigators?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 11:45:08 PM
What did they mention about the whore ?


I was reading this on 4chan tonight. I mentioned the multiple shooters earlier in the thread after listening to the scanner tape and watching the videos.  

Good stuff on 4chan especially on the gf whore!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 03, 2017, 11:45:22 PM
The media is lying go you?

Or the investigators?

I was going to say this...

the media has no reason to lie about this


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 12:07:03 AM
I was going to say this...

the media has no reason to lie about this

::)

naive sheep or massive troll


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: phreak on October 04, 2017, 12:10:37 AM
Two points:

1. Just because the official story is incomplete as of now does not make any and all conspiracy theories true.

2. Have to admire TA: ESFitness is his best and longest running clone yet.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 04, 2017, 12:17:21 AM
FBI record - his father was a SUICIDAL PSYCOPATH.

a) suicidal = mentally unstable

b) psycopath = mental illness - CRAZY

c) this guy is his son....


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 04, 2017, 12:27:37 AM
I was going to say this...

the media has no reason to lie about this

Maybe so but they also report what they are told to report. Do you really think these reporters have the first clue about the accuracy of what they are reading off the scripts they are given?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 04, 2017, 12:45:04 AM
Video footage released of machine gun fire from the twelfth floor.  Or maybe strobe light?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 12:53:20 AM
Video footage released of machine gun fire from the twelfth floor.  Or maybe strobe light?

somebody is just switching the light switch on and off really fast brah  ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2017, 01:59:24 AM
FBI record - his father was a SUICIDAL PSYCOPATH.

a) suicidal = mentally unstable

b) psycopath = mental illness - CRAZY

c) this guy is his son....

so his son went on to be a successful accountant who lived and worked himself into a comfortable retirement and a 7 figure net worth.

yea, typical mentally unstability.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 04, 2017, 02:04:15 AM


yea, typical mentally unstability.

He just murdered 59 people...

so what are you trying to say?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 02:05:07 AM
He just murdered 59 people...

so what are you trying to say?

FALSE FLAG JUST LIKE IN SYRIA


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 02:06:02 AM
He just murdered 59 people...

so what are you trying to say?

Manchurian candidate.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2017, 02:07:24 AM
i've only seen ONE person on TV mention the 'multiple shooter' angle and the shooter on the 4th floor.

I've never seen the sheriff asked about the 4th floor video during the press conferences. maybe he addressed it and i missed it. but i'd guess it's more likely that the news companies are just reporting what they're told to


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 02:07:30 AM
Manchurian candidate.

WHAT DOES BE THERE MEAN

WHY CANT YOU BE HERE?

???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2017, 02:08:47 AM
He just murdered 59 people...

so what are you trying to say?

yea, nevermind the previous 64yrs of his un-remarkable life.

he all of a sudden decides to murder a bunch of people?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 04, 2017, 02:11:46 AM
yea, nevermind the previous 64yrs of his un-remarkable life.

he all of a sudden decides to murder a bunch of people?

You know almost NOTHING about his life.  Just what family says...  sure you can get the truth from his family...  hell you think family are gonna say "oh yeah was was crazy" hell they are probably all crazy and hoping no one catches on.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: B R on October 04, 2017, 02:13:17 AM
yea, nevermind the previous 64yrs of his un-remarkable life.

he all of a sudden decides to murder a bunch of people?

Maybe he was bitten by a spider?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2017, 02:15:39 AM
Maybe the 38 fell and bounced?  Maybe he had muscular contractions and threw the gun?  When someone shoots themselves in the head, blood can come out of everywhere.  Mouth, nose, ears.

not about where it came out, but where it traveled. and his eyes look normal still, not one blown/bubbled out


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 02:16:39 AM
FUCKERS THE LONE WOLF MILLIONAIRE BULLSHIT STORY IS A FALSE FLAG THERE WERE MULTIPLE SHOOTERS

LOOK AT THE POLICE RADIO TRANSCRIPTS


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 02:17:26 AM
WHAT DOES BE THERE MEAN

WHY CANT YOU BE HERE?

???

Ron chose it....


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2017, 02:19:15 AM
You know almost NOTHING about his life.  Just what family says...  sure you can get the truth from his family...  hell you think family are gonna say "oh yeah was was crazy" hell they are probably all crazy and hoping no one catches on.

ouuuuuhhhh... touch a nerve there? don't have a meltdown over the guy.

i know what ive read. that he's lived to 64. that he was an accountant. and that he's worth over a million. well, that tells me he was successfull at his profession and he maintained his profession for long enough to not only just 'retire', but retire very comfortably. none of those things are consistent with somebody who's been mentally ill for a long time.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 02:23:11 AM
ouuuuuhhhh... touch a nerve there? don't have a meltdown over the guy.

i know what ive read. that he's lived to 64. that he was an accountant. and that he's worth over a million. well, that tells me he was successfull at his profession and he maintained his profession for long enough to not only just 'retire', but retire very comfortably. none of those things are consistent with somebody who's been mentally ill for a long time.

H.H. Holmes is famous for murdering tourists during the World's Fair, with anywhere between 27-200 victims to his name. However, was a respected doctor of his time. Surely none of the patients that depended on his services had any idea that he had a torture dungeon in his basement.

Ted Bundy was known to all who knew him as a charming man. He was a volunteer at a suicide hotline and a college graduate. However, he was executed for the murder of 40 women in the '80s.

When Jeffrey Dahmer's actions came to light, it was quite the shock to those who knew him as a thoughtful, active citizen. Dahmer supported gay rights in his hometown, but was secretly killing young men in the dark. He was murdered while in prison in 1994.

John Wayne Gacy was a shoe salesman, active in his community, and even entertained children as a clown. Little did the community (and his wife) know, Gacy was raping and murdering young men in his spare time. He was executed in 1994.

Andrew Cunanan is most famous for killing 5 people, including Gianni Versace, the famous fashion designer. Cunanan had an IQ of 147, making him a genius. His classmates remembered him as a charming and smart student.

Richard Angelo was a well respected nurse, volunteer fire fighter, and even an Eagle Scout. His obsession with being seen as a hero lead him to poison his patients in order to revive them. He ended up killing at least 25 people.


need I go on?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 04, 2017, 02:23:16 AM
ouuuuuhhhh... touch a nerve there? don't have a meltdown over the guy.

i know what ive read. that he's lived to 64. that he was an accountant. and that he's worth over a million. well, that tells me he was successfull at his profession and he maintained his profession for long enough to not only just 'retire', but retire very comfortably. none of those things are consistent with somebody who's been mentally ill for a long time.

But it seems I touched a nerve with YOU...  why are you so in denial that he is a psychopath?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 02:46:11 AM
I was going to say this...

the media has no reason to lie about this

 If the media refuses to report about what happened at caesars that night to make us believe that the only shooting that took place was at mandalay bay than that would be a lie would it not?

How about when they feed us goverment propaganda so the public will support their bullshit wars.

For example, Syria, no major military action taken yet but propaganda was used to soften are hearts so we would be more excepting of so called refugees. Here's some evidence of that propaganda using the media favorite...children.
Another victim of the butcher bashir

(http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7668721.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/ISIS-propaganda-image-showing-child-killed-by-Iraqi-soldiers-is-a-FAKE-main.jpg)

Young boy supposedly sleeping with his recently killed parents.
(https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/01/17/16/syriav2.jpg)

Newsweek
(http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2016/09/01/0902syriawin01.JPG)

ABC
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/7792032-3x2-940x627.jpg)

Notice a pattern here?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C38U1DGVUAAFRy9.jpg:large)

ISIS and FSA doing a fine job of conning the people of america and europe to garner support against bashir and further the
immigration of so called refugees.
(https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1471/63/1471632297567.png)

Who could forget this phoney bologna that was on the covers of 400 newspapers and magazines? Another victory by the terrorists using our own media against us.
(https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/little-boy.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720&h=480&crop=1)

My favorite. The boy who's body they moved to look like it just washed ashore.
(https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/57c868c6170000172ac77020.jpeg?cache=w6x115sxfw&ops=1910_1000)
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/09/ap_ap-photo219.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HCFol7g-FU

America was claiming the FSA were terrorist but secretly arming them. Of course they joined forces with ISIS and the rest is history. Everything we're told especially about what goes on in the middlle east is lies.

Here's a story about how evil and violent white men are by cnn just today. People are asking why Paddock hasn't been officially declared a terrorist, that's simple. Terrorism is the use of violence for political aim. So all you fucking monkey's can shut the fuck up until we have a motive. If he's just angry and wanted to kill people that has no political aim so you'll just have to live with mass murderer. It's not a race thing, nor was this killing so fucking deal with it. At least he didn't target gays like the last mass shooter who was a mudslime and motivated by ideology and to spread fear.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/opinions/mass-shootings-white-male-rage-modan-opinion/index.html

And look who wrote it what a surprise. Notice she doesn't mention real numbers when it comes to killing by race in this country. Nobody is denying white guys do shooting sprees but when it comes to the annual murder rate it's a drop in the bucket. What she's doing is deliberately misleading.
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/2bb1a6308960000cc790950ff46bcd66/tumblr_oxahs1HLFq1wd3uyro1_500.jpg)

You and the general public are sheep my friend.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 02:51:02 AM
Oh, so the people who don't believe what's fed to them by the media are the sheep? If the media refuses to report about what happened at caesars that night to make us believe that the only shooting that took place was at mandalay bay than that would be a lie would it not?

How about when they feed us goverment propaganda so the public will support their bullshit wars.

For example, Syria, no actual military action taken but propaganda was used to soften are hearts so we would be more excepting of so called refugees. Here's some evidence of that propaganda using the media favorite...children.
Another victim of the butcher bashir

(http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7668721.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/ISIS-propaganda-image-showing-child-killed-by-Iraqi-soldiers-is-a-FAKE-main.jpg)

Young boy supposedly sleeping with his recently killed parents.
(https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/01/17/16/syriav2.jpg)

Newsweek
(http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2016/09/01/0902syriawin01.JPG)

ABC
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/7792032-3x2-940x627.jpg)

Notice a pattern here?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C38U1DGVUAAFRy9.jpg:large)

ISIS and FSA doing a fine job of conning the people of america and europe to garner support against bashir and further immigration of so called refugees.
(https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1471/63/1471632297567.png)

Who could forget this phoney bologna that was on the covers of 400 newspapers and magazines? Another victory by the terrorists using our own media against us.
(https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/little-boy.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720&h=480&crop=1)

My favorite. The boy who's body they moved to look like it just washed ashore.
(https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/57c868c6170000172ac77020.jpeg?cache=w6x115sxfw&ops=1910_1000)
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/09/ap_ap-photo219.jpg)

America was claiming the FSA were terrorist but secretly arming them. Of course they joined forces with ISIS and the rest is history. Everything we're told especially about what goes on in the middlle east is lies.

Here's a story about how evil and violent white men are by cnn just today. People are asking why Paddock hasn't been officially declared a terrorist, that's simple. Terrorism is the use of violence for political aim. So all you fucking monkey's can shut the fuck up until we have a motive. If he's just angry and wanted to kill people that has no political aim so you'll just have to live with mass murderer. It's not a race thing, nor was this killing so fucking deal with it. At least he didn't target gays like the last mass shooter who was a mudslime and motivated by ideology and to spread fear.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/opinions/mass-shootings-white-male-rage-modan-opinion/index.html

And look who wrote it what a surprise. Notice she doesn't mention real numbers when it comes to killing by race in this country. Nobody is denying white guys do shooting sprees but when it comes to the annual murder rate it's a drop in the bucket. What she's doing is deliberately misleading.

You and the general public are the sheep my friend.

I LOVE THIS FUCKING POST!!!


(i had to remove the image of the muslim whore because her physiognomy repulses me)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 02:57:52 AM
so his son went on to be a successful accountant who lived and worked himself into a comfortable retirement and a 7 figure net worth.

yea, typical mentally unstability.

So then using your logic, you must be the one who is mentally unstable right?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2017, 03:02:22 AM
But it seems I touched a nerve with YOU...  why are you so in denial that he is a psychopath?

read what i wrote. i said what?
ouuuuuhhhh... touch a nerve there? don't have a meltdown over the guy.

i know what ive read. that he's lived to 64. that he was an accountant. and that he's worth over a million. well, that tells me he was successfull at his profession and he maintained his profession for long enough to not only just 'retire', but retire very comfortably. none of those things are consistent with somebody who's been mentally ill for a long time.

he wasn't some hermit bum. dude had a career and money. and a girlfriend. and nobody said they could see this coming... and i believe 2 places and a pilots license. if he wanted to make a statement, flying a plane rigged with 400lbs of explosives into a football stadium would've gotten the job done as well.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 03:06:57 AM
read what i wrote. i said what?
he wasn't some hermit bum. dude had a career and money. and a girlfriend. and nobody said they could see this coming... and i believe 2 places and a pilots license. if he wanted to make a statement, flying a plane rigged with 400lbs of explosives into a football stadium would've gotten the job done as well.

Most serial killers are well respected pillars of the community...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2017, 03:08:48 AM
So then using your logic, you must be the one who is mentally unstable right?

tell me what, besides the shooting, would tell you the guy was a psychopath? what about his life would tell you that?

you saying on day he woke up and decided to kill himself, but not before committing a massacre? why? dude waited till he was 64 and was comfortably retired and enjoying life?

you keep pointing out "his dad!.. his dad!". you realize most mental illness shows itself in mens 20's, right? if not then in their 30's?

this guy waits till he's 64?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2017, 03:09:33 AM
Most serial killers are well respected pillars of the community...

oh, we're talking about a serial killer now?
who?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 03:14:20 AM
oh, we're talking about a serial killer now?
who?

I know its a stretch for someone with your drug addled brain but try and link the comparison.

Its a 64 year old guy who finally snapped after years of managing to bottle things up.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2017, 03:16:19 AM
I know its a stretch for someone with your drug addled brain but try and link the comparison.

Its a 64 year old guy who finally snapped after years of managing to bottle things up.

drug addled eh? please show me the studies on opiate users brains being "addled", you cross eyed twink.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 03:17:44 AM
drug addled eh? please show me the studies on opiate users brains being "addled", you cross eyed twink.

I don't nee to show you any studies, I could post a link to your posting history, I'm sure that would convince most sceptics.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 04, 2017, 03:20:51 AM
I don't nee to show you any studies, I could post a link to your posting history, I'm sure that would convince most sceptics.

eh, yes you do. you made a claim. you show the evidence. see how that works?



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 03:23:14 AM
eh, yes you do. you made a claim. you show the evidence. see how that works?


https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=hp&q=long+term+opiate+use+brain+damage&oq=opiate+use+brai+n&gs_l=psy-ab.1.2.0i13i30k1l2j0i13i5i30k1l2j0i8i13i30k1.2614.7092.0.10618.17.17.0.0.0.0.364.3037.0j5j7j2.14.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..3.14.3036...0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i22i30k1.0.MINB__eNO5o


you couldn't work this out yourself because you have brain damage..


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 04, 2017, 04:57:06 AM
::)

naive sheep or massive troll

It's becoming clear that this was some type of false flag incident.  Too many things do not make sense.  The sounds of the gun fire was not produced by an AR-15... it was higher caliber, like a M-60 or 240B.   

There were mussel flashes coming from a 4th or 5th floor window of the hotel.  I viewed all the vids and cannot see any flashes coming from any higher floors.  This means there were multiple shooters or the room scene was a set up and/or this Paddock guy was a patsy.

Gubmit and the fake news are grasping for straws and anything they can to hang on to their feeble fairy-tale about the lone white gunman using the bad ole AR-15.  They are doing everything they can to vilify guns and get more control over them. 

The show must go on.  I have lots of popcorn.   


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 04:59:21 AM
It's becoming clear that this was some type of false flag incident.  Too many things do not make sense.  The sounds of the gun fire was not produced by an AR-15... it was higher caliber, like a M-60 or 240B.   

There were mussel flashes coming from a 4th or 5th floor window of the hotel.  I viewed all the vids and cannot see any flashes coming from any higher floors.  This means there were multiple shooters or the room scene was a set up and/or this Paddock guy was a patsy.

Gubmit and the fake news are grasping for straws and anything they can to hang on to their feeble fairy-tale about the lone white gunman using the bad ole AR-15.  They are doing everything they can to vilify guns and get more control over them. 

The show must go on.  I have lots of popcorn.   

yup!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Evo on October 04, 2017, 05:04:14 AM
drug addled eh? please show me the studies on opiate users brains being "addled", you cross eyed twink.

It's well known that long term opiate use/abuse cause changes in your brains chemcial make up and receptor profile...

As a high ranking cartel member you should be well versed in narcotics, no?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 05:31:21 AM
read what i wrote. i said what?
he wasn't some hermit bum. dude had a career and money. and a girlfriend. and nobody said they could see this coming... and i believe 2 places and a pilots license. if he wanted to make a statement, flying a plane rigged with 400lbs of explosives into a football stadium would've gotten the job done as well.

>His father was a bank robber and psychotic
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/659ba2e90ad26b54b9ccaac589646da9/tumblr_oxanrkVDVT1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)

>He was an eccentric loner nomad
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/5e54f826ddc979fe496f87df0f9dddae/tumblr_oxao6fm9ql1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/eb67f4363af666407427ba927531397d/tumblr_oxao84TZgC1wd3uyro1_1280.png)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/1818bbd3570fb849e24e96d37d4a9f35/tumblr_oxao5kZr461wd3uyro1_1280.png)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/fb69759a4c360c15a4499d90ceb58521/tumblr_oxao4iU9Es1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/8349e3a74944c40452b9c5320dd3d764/tumblr_oxao2dVpSH1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/e5078ef036bf3d7b794e46d8146e820c/tumblr_oxao1kQS5O1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)

>He didn't have a "career" he was a proffesional gambler for the last twenty years. Had a fullofpeeno whore who led a convoluted life of her own, with two simultaneous husbands, a bankruptcy, two Social Security numbers, multiple addresses in several states and even different ages depending on which state records you check.

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/3eb772eeaa25f3ff0bfbbbfef01388ef/tumblr_oxaofb0ezw1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)

In California, her name is registered as Marilou Natividad-Bustos and her birthday is listed as January 1962, making her 55 years old. Under a different Social Security number in Nevada, her name is Marilou Lou Danley and her birthday is listed as December 1954, making her 62.

At times, her identities merged: Marilou filed for bankruptcy in 2012, under the name Bustos, while she was still married to Danley and living with Paddock in Reno. Her lawyer during the bankruptcy has not yet responded to a request for comment. Marilou travels back to California often to visit her daughter there, Reno neighbors told Newsweek.

Marilou held multiple addresses, some simultaneously—in Arkansas, Tennessee, California, Florida and other states, and often moved through cities within those states.

"Marilou Danley" immigrated to the US under the name "Marilou Ocampo Natividad" in 1986, married Geary Danley in 1990 and took his surname.

Prior to immigrating, Marilou was a known Muay Thai and Eskrina fighter under the alias "Marilou Ocampo", and became politically active in the late 1970s. As an elected local official in the mid 1980s, she became embroiled in the controversy over American Development Aid covertly provided by the CIA to promote pro-American sentiment during the lead up to and in the wake of President Marcos resignation.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/961fd836e6998e79fe20bcc0d0d9669a/tumblr_oxaoaw9iYZ1wd3uyro1_1280.png)

 "Carl W. Ford" wrote her a character reference that's included in her immigration docs. He was her sponsor.

Carl W Ford is CIA

The records show conflicting details under multiple identities:

Marilou came to the U.S. as Marilou Natividad, married Geary Danley in 1990 and took his surname. Danley, 76, lives in Arkansas, but he has declined to answer questions.

In 1996, Marilou wed Jose Bustos, and became Marilou Bustos. But she did not dissolve her marriage to Danley until 2015, divorce records show.

Both marriage licenses were filed in Clark County, which includes the city of Las Vegas, even though the Danleys lived in Tennessee and Arkansas around the time of their marriage, and the Bustoses lived in California. Marilou also has a daughter, currently living in California, but it is unclear whether one of her husbands, or another man, fathered the child.

 Marilou held multiple addresses, some simultaneously—in Arkansas, Tennessee, California, Florida and other states, and often moved through cities within those states.

>He made a statement. He's now the greatest mass murderer in US history.

I think it's safe to assume mental illness runs in the family.

His brother is eccentric and socially akward as well. See cbs interview, really out of touch with reality.





Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 04, 2017, 06:14:15 AM
Poodle...you've added nothing of value to this thread.  Childish banter. It's GB and expected on OTHER threads. Could u just take your crappy posts there and leave this one alone?
Just this one...it's not a joking matter.

Why can't the MODS step in JUST THIS ONE TIME and keep just this one thread on track?
60 people DIED and 500 were hurt..this is serious stuff.
Come on Poodle...leave it alone man


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 06:20:21 AM
The only way gun control can work and banning assault rifle is to ban them outright from the country so that means, citizens, police and military.  The public shouldn't live in a police state.  Now for the military, they'll have access to those guns in special circumstances but they won't be walking around the fucking airports with an M16. 

The reality i gun control is too late.  It's like cumming all over a chick then slipping a condom on.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Princess L on October 04, 2017, 06:31:04 AM
It's becoming clear that this was some type of false flag incident.  Too many things do not make sense.  The sounds of the gun fire was not produced by an AR-15... it was higher caliber, like a M-60 or 240B.   

There were mussel flashes coming from a 4th or 5th floor window of the hotel.  I viewed all the vids and cannot see any flashes coming from any higher floors.  This means there were multiple shooters or the room scene was a set up and/or this Paddock guy was a patsy.

Gubmit and the fake news are grasping for straws and anything they can to hang on to their feeble fairy-tale about the lone white gunman using the bad ole AR-15.  They are doing everything they can to vilify guns and get more control over them. 

The show must go on.  I have lots of popcorn.   

Please post links to those vids.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 06:32:29 AM
It's becoming clear that this was some type of false flag incident.  Too many things do not make sense.  The sounds of the gun fire was not produced by an AR-15... it was higher caliber, like a M-60 or 240B.   

There were mussel flashes coming from a 4th or 5th floor window of the hotel.  I viewed all the vids and cannot see any flashes coming from any higher floors.  This means there were multiple shooters or the room scene was a set up and/or this Paddock guy was a patsy.

Gubmit and the fake news are grasping for straws and anything they can to hang on to their feeble fairy-tale about the lone white gunman using the bad ole AR-15.  They are doing everything they can to vilify guns and get more control over them. 

The show must go on.  I have lots of popcorn.   

lol at false flag.  Sometimes it's just a crazy person and a bunch of guns.  Simple crime.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SuperTed on October 04, 2017, 06:42:51 AM
tell me what, besides the shooting, would tell you the guy was a psychopath? what about his life would tell you that?

you saying on day he woke up and decided to kill himself, but not before committing a massacre? why? dude waited till he was 64 and was comfortably retired and enjoying life?

you keep pointing out "his dad!.. his dad!". you realize most mental illness shows itself in mens 20's, right? if not then in their 30's?

this guy waits till he's 64?

He probably always had psychopathic feelings which he suppressed due to being content with life. Once he started feeling depressed and suicidal, he let his inner feelings take over and went out with a bang. There is no conspiracy. There are many men out there like him.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 04, 2017, 06:50:17 AM
https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?two_year_transaction_per iod=2014&contributor_name=Stephen+Paddock&min_date=01%2F01%2F2013&max_date=12%2F31%2F2014


Type in his name as a contributor


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 04, 2017, 06:57:04 AM
He probably always had psychopathic feelings which he suppressed due to being content with life. Once he started feeling depressed and suicidal, he let his inner feelings take over and went out with a bang. There is no conspiracy. There are many men out there like him.

Given the amount of planning that went into the attack, he knew exactly the type of crowd that he was shooting at. With that in mind, I’d like to hear about his political leanings before coming to the conclusion that he was just a bitter old man.

And when I see a major newspaper with a headline like this, it does make one suspicious:


We don't know Stephen Paddock's motive. Does it matter?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/10/03/we-dont-know-stephen-paddocks-motive-does-matter/727650001/



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 07:04:24 AM
Given the amount of planning that went into the attack, he knew exactly the type of crowd that he was shooting at. With that in mind, I’d like to hear about his political leanings before coming to the conclusion that he was just a bitter old man.

And when I see a major newspaper with a headline like this, it does make one suspicious:


We don't know Stephen Paddock's motive. Does it matter?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/10/03/we-dont-know-stephen-paddocks-motive-does-matter/727650001/



Sick of this shit of people claiming it's political.  Who gives a fuck.  He was obviously disturbed yet no one seemed to know about it.  He hid it well.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 07:07:52 AM
Looks like Mr. Paddock had two guests with him for lunch. Problem is, at least according to his brother, he doesn't have any.

Hmmm....
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/7d74ce2d377c18cbc610ee2e117c5abc/tumblr_oxaxluTjNU1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 04, 2017, 07:15:17 AM
I am not a guy who subscribes to consiracy theories or MSM, but my bottom line is like alot of these mass shootings, terrorist attacks, we get bombarded with so many opinions from the media(mainstream, conspiraccy,etc) that most of the narrative of who, what, when , where, how,  and why is just total bullshit.

was that Paddock guy the shooter? Probably. Did he act alone? No fucking way, too many things captured on camera by citizens(4th floor thing for example), etc etc etc etc etc

the populations of the world have been manipulated by the powers that be since the beginning of time. Fake news, propoganda, false flags and not new.

All that being said, when it comes to these things for some reason my brain will not accept at face value anything being fed to me by the MSM, Politicians, law enforcement, criminals, courts, conspiracy theorists and especially the general public.

I just refuse to be a sheep and try my best not to be one. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. By sheep I mean taking anything any of the above state no matter what lean they have.

Sorry to ramble but my point is I don't necessarily believe anyone putting a spin on this. The whole "lone wolf theory" stuff is getting tiring and laughable.
Nobody gets shit like this done in this world today, whether you live/deal on or off the grid, all alone.

This guy pulling this off alone is too right out of Hollywood a la John Wick/Bourne Identity/Manchurian Candidate lol


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 07:17:41 AM
I am not a guy who subscribes to consiracy theories or MSM, but my bottom line is like alot of these mass shootings, terrorist attacks, we get bombarded with so many opinions from the media(mainstream, conspiraccy,etc) that most of the narrative of who, what, when , where, how,  and why is just total bullshit.

was that Paddock guy the shooter? Probably. Did he act alone? No fucking way, too many things captured on camera by citizens(4th floor thing for example), etc etc etc etc etc

the populations of the world have been manipulated by the powers that be since the beginning of time. Fake news, propoganda, false flags and not new.

All that being said, when it comes to these things for some reason my brain will not accept at face value anything being fed to me by the MSM, Politicians, law enforcement, criminals, courts, conspiracy theorists and especially the general public.

I just refuse to be a sheep and try my best not to be one. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. By sheep I mean taking anything any of the above state no matter what lean they have.

Sorry to ramble but my point is I don't necessarily believe anyone putting a spin on this. The whole "lone wolf theory" stuff is getting tiring and laughable.
Nobody gets shit like this done in this world today, whether you live/deal on or off the grid, all alone.

This guy pulling this off alone is too right out of Hollywood a la John Wick/Bourne Identity/Manchurian Candidate lol

This is where you're wrong.  Being a loner is the only way to have this work for him.  Once you start telling other people of your plans you're going to get caught.  The only way to pull this type of shit off is to keep your mouth shut and don't talk about it online, over the phone or in person.

One big drug kingpin said that once you include others into you plans it's not a matter of IF you'll get caught but WHEN, because people will always talk.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 04, 2017, 07:21:48 AM
Please post links to those vids.

first one that popped up on my youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ARGKxre9E


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 04, 2017, 07:24:55 AM
I don’t see the Lonewolf theory being far fetched it all. It’s not the fucking brinks job. It was just a guy who rented a room in a hotel and opened fire on a large group of people.

That he was able to get all those guns into the room is not unusual either. It’s a huge hotel with people walking through the lobby with suitcases all the time.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 07:28:58 AM
first one that popped up on my youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ARGKxre9E

Awesome they're shooting through glass without breaking it.  Are these Matrix bullets?  Don't think it's just a reflection of what's happening down below?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Rambone on October 04, 2017, 07:29:03 AM
first one that popped up on my youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ARGKxre9E

"Clearly"

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C6JBA4-BlF0/TYUt6Et6tJI/AAAAAAAAHtc/3B8cSeBh4us/s1600/hot+shots.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 07:32:56 AM
I don’t see the Lonewolf theory being far fetched it all. It’s not the fucking brinks job. It was just a guy who rented a room in a hotel and opened fire on a large group of people.

That he was able to get all those guns into the room is not unusual either. It’s a huge hotel with people walking through the lobby with suitcases all the time.

Americans are too delusional to admit that people are just fucked up and do dumb things and would rather think their government is complicit in everything that happens.  Our fucking gov i too retarded to fix healthcare let alone plan these things.  Same gov tried to kill Castro over a dozen times and failed.  People have little faith in the gov to do normal everyday things but then think they're so amazing to pull off all of these events.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 04, 2017, 07:33:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2qjwlUFss


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 04, 2017, 07:33:36 AM
This is where you're wrong.  Being a loner is the only way to have this work for him.  Once you start telling other people of your plans you're going to get caught.  The only way to pull this type of shit off is to keep your mouth shut and don't talk about it online, over the phone or in person.

One big drug kingpin said that once you include others into you plans it's not a matter of IF you'll get caught but WHEN, because people will always talk.

I like you El Diablo but with all due respect I am not wrong because I don't beliive anything I am being fed on this by the msm, conspiracy people,, politicians, law enforcement or the general public.

The only thing I believe is this period and there is no debate....dozens of people were killed and hundreds injured while enjoying a night out because someone who WAS NOT acting alone has some kind of breakdown/agenda/beef/stupid point to make.

You can try to debate me on this or point out where I am wrong until you are blue in the face but there is no way I( am going to beleive that guy acted alone. Just not.

In the end though it does not matter because dozens were killed and hundreds injured. That is the only 100% fact here

No point in looking for my contradictions etc to make a poitn to me guys, I respectfully don't care. In the end none of our opinions will matter because being sheep is just us debating(ie being distracted) while the powers that be go about their bullshit.

we should not debate people. just put out your opinion on it and stop trying to prove each other wrong.

My opinion means nothing more or less that any of you.

Just think of it this way. Every time you have debated someone in life, how many times do you actually believe you have changed their mind? NONE! they may say yes to you but inside they are thinking fuck this person, I will just agree so they shut up.

That is what debating is, Distraction and being a sheep


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Redux on October 04, 2017, 07:36:56 AM
Americans are too delusional to admit that people are just fucked up and do dumb things and would rather think their government is complicit in everything that happens.  Our fucking gov i too retarded to fix healthcare let alone plan these things.  Same gov tried to kill Castro over a dozen times and failed.  People have little faith in the gov to do normal everyday things but then think they're so amazing to pull off all of these events.

Exactly.
The Government can't do something as simple as deliver an envelope from one address to another, yet they can pull off things like this.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 07:38:03 AM
I like you El Diablo but with all due respect I am not wrong because I don't beliive anything I am being fed on this by the msm, conspiracy people,, politicians, law enforcement or the general public.

The only thing I believe is this period and there is no debate....dozens of people were killed and hundreds injured while enjoying a night out because someone who WAS NOT acting alone has some kind of breakdown/agenda/beef/stupid point to make.

You can try to debate me on this or point out where I am wrong until you are blue in the face but there is no way I( am going to beleive that guy acted alone. Just not.

In the end though it does not matter because dozens were killed and hundreds injured. That is the only 100% fact here

No point in looking for my contradictions etc to make a poitn to me guys, I respectfully don't care. In the end none of our opinions will matter because being sheep is just us debating(ie being distracted) while the powers that be go about their bullshit.

we should not debate people. just put out your opinion on it and stop trying to prove each other wrong.

My opinion means nothing more or less that any of you.

Just think of it this way. Every time you have debated someone in life, how many times do you actually believe you have changed their mind? NONE! they may say yes to you but inside they are thinking fuck this person, I will just agree so they shut up.

That is what debating is, Distraction and being a sheep

What he did wasn't that spectacular that needed a special team to pull off.  There's a crowd of 20,000 people.  He had a machine gun and shot into it.  It's actually a miracle that only 50 died.  The resulting injuries are probably due to the stampede of people rushing out.  You can go into a busy nightclub and fire a gun in the air and the result would be 100 injured people.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 04, 2017, 07:38:29 AM
Americans are too delusional to admit that people are just fucked up and do dumb things and would rather think their government is complicit in everything that happens.  Our fucking gov i too retarded to fix healthcare let alone plan these things.  Same gov tried to kill Castro over a dozen times and failed.  People have little faith in the gov to do normal everyday things but then think they're so amazing to pull off all of these events.

Government does not want to  fix healthcare they want to present the illusion that they are trying to by debating it and promising bullshit to people.

If you go back 50 years they were "trying" to fix healthcare or whatever else pisses off the public. What have they ever actually made better in the long term? Nothing. Your public/private/insurace or whatever healthcare system is just as fucked as our so called universal system in Canada, they will always need to be "fixed", its how they stay relevant

The illusion of them saying they are trying to fix something keeps them employed. If they actually fixed the world they would not be needed, or at least have the ability to present themselves as needed.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: phreak on October 04, 2017, 07:39:17 AM
I like you El Diablo but with all due respect I am not wrong because I don't beliive anything I am being fed on this by the msm, conspiracy people,, politicians, law enforcement or the general public.

The only thing I believe is this period and there is no debate....dozens of people were killed and hundreds injured while enjoying a night out because someone who WAS NOT acting alone has some kind of breakdown/agenda/beef/stupid point to make.

You can try to debate me on this or point out where I am wrong until you are blue in the face but there is no way I( am going to beleive that guy acted alone. Just not.

In the end though it does not matter because dozens were killed and hundreds injured. That is the only 100% fact here

No point in looking for my contradictions etc to make a poitn to me guys, I respectfully don't care. In the end none of our opinions will matter because being sheep is just us debating(ie being distracted) while the powers that be go about their bullshit.

we should not debate people. just put out your opinion on it and stop trying to prove each other wrong.

My opinion means nothing more or less that any of you.

Just think of it this way. Every time you have debated someone in life, how many times do you actually believe you have changed their mind? NONE! they may say yes to you but inside they are thinking fuck this person, I will just agree so they shut up.

That is what debating is, Distraction and being a sheep
Thanks for at least not wasting our time. Can't imagine being so mentally deficient that your whole worldview is so fragile, but I appreciate the heads up about people not discussing things with you.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 04, 2017, 07:43:05 AM
What he did wasn't that spectacular that needed a special team to pull off.  There's a crowd of 20,000 people.  He had a machine gun and shot into it.  It's actually a miracle that only 50 died.  The resulting injuries are probably due to the stampede of people rushing out.  You can go into a busy nightclub and fire a gun in the air and the result would be 100 injured people.


sorry its not changing my mind, I will not beleive anything put out there.

I put up a 4th floor video because someone requested one. Do I believe that theory 100%. No. But I don't call bullshit either. There are too many varying accounts out there and too many trying to put a spin on it which makes me call bullshit on this being cut and dry.

sorry I am just on my first coffee, was waiting on my boss, but that is my opinion, that too much being sent out info wise is too covenient and I just don't believe he acted alone, and that there is more to this story then we are being fed


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 04, 2017, 07:44:09 AM
Thanks for at least not wasting our time. Can't imagine being so mentally deficient that your whole worldview is so fragile, but I appreciate the heads up about people not discussing things with you.

Why insult me? I said what is my opinion and also alluded that I respect everyone elses on this matter.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: phreak on October 04, 2017, 07:47:42 AM
What he did wasn't that spectacular that needed a special team to pull off.  There's a crowd of 20,000 people.  He had a machine gun and shot into it.  It's actually a miracle that only 50 died.  The resulting injuries are probably due to the stampede of people rushing out.  You can go into a busy nightclub and fire a gun in the air and the result would be 100 injured people.

It's funny to see people grasp at straws to make life understandable. Shit happens. Good shit, evil shit, it just happens. No conspiracy needed. These same people probably laugh at african negroes for believing in rain gods, while it's the same thing: trying to ascribe meaning to random events.

And yes, shooting is easy as fuck. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying or has never handled a gun. Fuck, my platoon was hitting 50m targets with uzis and 100m with FALs after firing their first 5 shots ever. Any idiot can point and shoot. Especially at a target several arcminutes wide!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: phreak on October 04, 2017, 07:49:45 AM
Why insult me? I said what is my opinion and also alluded that I respect everyone elses on this matter.
I did not write it as an insult, more of an observation. People with extreme confirmation bias cannot be trusted.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 07:50:07 AM
Please post links to those vids.


They were posted earlier




Uber driver, 2 different sounding high fired weapons at different distances.

And at the 4:49 mark you can see the gun flashing , which is better shown in the 2nd video
 
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpcqS6ZiCuw

Best video I've seen so far.

 


Muzzle fire on the 4th floor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFFcfglnlW8


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 04, 2017, 07:52:50 AM
I did not write it as an insult, more of an observation. People with extreme confirmation bias cannot be trusted.

You called me mentally deficiant, I took it as such,  but thanks.

Not asking anyone to trust me, just saying I don't buy all this hook, line and sinker as to the lone wolf theory. I just feel 100% that we are not being fed the real story of all this.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 07:56:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVnNKOKVhx4


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 04, 2017, 07:57:22 AM
I find it funny that we as a society when we disagree that instead of saying " I respect your opinion, here is mine" we get sucked into trying to shame each other into accepting our opinion.

this is what is going on with mass migration being shoved down our, and espeically europe's throats. Call them racists or nuts if they oppose, while we pull the wool over everyone's eyes and push our agenda's

That is being a sheep.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SuperTed on October 04, 2017, 07:59:50 AM
Given the amount of planning that went into the attack, he knew exactly the type of crowd that he was shooting at. With that in mind, I’d like to hear about his political leanings before coming to the conclusion that he was just a bitter old man.

And when I see a major newspaper with a headline like this, it does make one suspicious:

We don't know Stephen Paddock's motive. Does it matter?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/10/03/we-dont-know-stephen-paddocks-motive-does-matter/727650001/


A country music concert would attract more conservatives then liberals, but it still would be far from political homogeneity. It would still be a strange choice to target for someone who was purely politically driven. I don't think we'll ever know what his motives were unless he made some recordings/writings. As things stand, he'll just go down as a crazed psycho that wanted to create an unforgettable legacy before he killed himself.  


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: phreak on October 04, 2017, 08:05:13 AM
I find it funny that we as a society when we disagree that instead of saying " I respect your opinion, here is mine" we get sucked into trying to shame each other into accepting our opinion.

this is what is going on with mass migration being shoved down our, and espeically europe's throats. Call them racists or nuts if they oppose, while we pull the wool over everyone's eyes and push our agenda's

That is being a sheep.


You are not special. Dreaming about an evil cabal to make sense of the world does not make you smarter than anyone. Quite the opposite. Intentionally not wanting your opinion swayed ever is pathetic and anti reason and logic.

Also: crying about being called out while calling others sheep? Dude...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 08:07:50 AM

They were posted earlier




Uber driver, 2 different sounding high fired weapons at different distances.

And at the 4:49 mark you can see the gun flashing , which is better shown in the 2nd video
 
   
 


Muzzle fire on the 4th floor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFFcfglnlW8


The gun fire sounded different because he used many different guns.  The distance sounded different because he shot out of two different windows that faced in different directions meaning an echo coming from two different areas to bounce off of.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 04, 2017, 08:11:24 AM
You are not special. Dreaming about an evil cabal to make sense of the world does not make you smarter than anyone. Quite the opposite. Intentionally not wanting your opinion swayed ever is pathetic and anti reason and logic.

Also: crying about being called out while calling others sheep? Dude...


never said I was special, never said I was smarter than anyone, refusing to have my opinion swayed is my choice, nothing to do with anything you guys have as an opinion.

again I said I respect your opinions, please respect mine. trying to call me out for being firm in mine will not accomplish anything for you or me.

I also never said my opinion is the right one, it is just an opinion. As yours is neither wrong nor right, just your opinion.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 08:13:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPZFN6VFFow

Sociopath, lacks empathy.

This video is hilarious. "I highly recommend this fusion restaurant, we ate thousands of dolllars of sushi, comped!"


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 08:30:01 AM
These mass gun shootings are so archaic.  Give it time but the next big thing will be drones.  Nuts strapping C4 onto a few drones, punching in GPS coordinates and flying them into stadiums concerts or whatever.  Completely untraceable.  


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 04, 2017, 08:35:47 AM
Americans are too delusional to admit that people are just fucked up and do dumb things and would rather think their government is complicit in everything that happens.  Our fucking gov i too retarded to fix healthcare let alone plan these things.  Same gov tried to kill Castro over a dozen times and failed.  People have little faith in the gov to do normal everyday things but then think they're so amazing to pull off all of these events.

Chasing conspiracies is something certain people do to fill the hours. Most of these people are either unemployable or working some phony disability claim. It’s a way of alleviating boredom.

What was 240 going to do even if he found out for real that the CIA took out Tower number seven?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 04, 2017, 08:36:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPZFN6VFFow

Sociopath, lacks empathy.

This video is hilarious. "I highly recommend this fusion restaurant, we ate thousands of dolllars of sushi, comped!"
Agreed...there's something going on with him. Sociopath might be right.
in his original interview he quickly waved hello to a neighbor that was passing by and smiled, then went right back to pouting. I thought that was odd.
His Taco Bell comment was weird too


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Princess L on October 04, 2017, 08:38:25 AM
first one that popped up on my youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ARGKxre9E

Okay

http://www.snopes.com/second-gunman-shoot-fourth-floor-mandalay-bay/


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 08:39:28 AM
Agreed...there's something going on with him. Sociopath might be right.
in his original interview he quickly waved hello to a neighbor that was passing by and smiled, then went right back to pouting. I thought that was odd.
His Taco Bell comment was weird too


The whole situation is abnormal.  How is he supposed to react?  Is there a textbook reaction to finding out your brother just killed 50 people?  If I found that out I'd be angry, shocked and dumbfounded.  Probably wouldn't know what the fuck was happening with emotions flying all over the place.  A lot of people when sad tend to laugh. It's an odd reaction but legit.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 04, 2017, 08:41:47 AM
The whole situation is abnormal.  How is he supposed to react?  Is there a textbook reaction to finding out your brother just killed 50 people?  If I found that out I'd be angry, shocked and dumbfounded.  Probably wouldn't know what the fuck was happening with emotions flying all over the place.  A lot of people when sad tend to laugh. It's an odd reaction but legit.

A person’s first instinct is towards his own survival. He would be scared that he would be implicated in it even if he wasn’t.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 08:45:26 AM
A person’s first instinct is towards his own survival. He would be scared that he would be implicated in it even if he wasn’t.

Even if his brother admitted it and said "yeah, next time I go to vegas I'm going to shoot that fucking place up"  is he supposed to believe it to be real?  The movie Hangover they quoted "we need to blow this fucking place up".  Did they literally mean it?  No.
So yeah, he probably recalled his brother saying shit but now is afraid to admit it because he knows he'll get raked over the coals for it.  If people are to react to every dumb thing said to them that would be impossible.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 04, 2017, 08:46:26 AM
Liberals are trying to dupe Americans and take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens and they frequently do so using cherry picked and manipulated statistics.

They need to drag out victims of things like this Las Vegas fuckery and use them to shame emotional people into accepting their dishonest premise and solutions.

"If you are against gun cortrol then you must be pro mass shootings and you don't care about the victims of __________"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IULSD8VwXEs


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2017, 08:50:51 AM
FBI Probing Las Vegas Shooter’s Video of Massacre; Reportedly Sent Live Feed Offshore
True Pundit ^ | 10/3/2017 | True Pundit by Investigative Bureau
Posted on 10/4/2017, 11:42:49 AM by b4its2late

Not only did Stephen Paddock capture the chaos inside his Mandalay Bay hotel suite on video, but now FBI officials are looking to see where he streamed the live footage.

FBI sources said the Mandalay Bay shooter may have used the hotel’s WiFi or hard-wired internet backbone to stream the footage offshore.

FBI sources would not divulge what international locations they are targeting.

Paddock has been linked to wiring hefty amounts of US funds to the Philippines, Australia and possibly the Middle East, federal law enforcement sources said.

Paddock used excessive Mandalay-Bay internet bandwidth during his multiple-day stay in the resort’s suite, FBI sources confirmed.

FBI sources said they also confiscated Paddock’s captured video feeds as part of evidence after the shooter apparently committed suicide.

This story is developing.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 08:52:27 AM
The whole situation is abnormal.  How is he supposed to react?  Is there a textbook reaction to finding out your brother just killed 50 people?  If I found that out I'd be angry, shocked and dumbfounded.  Probably wouldn't know what the fuck was happening with emotions flying all over the place.  A lot of people when sad tend to laugh. It's an odd reaction but legit.

Dude, I understand that but come on... He's a sociopath.  Narcissistic and shows no empathy, when he tries it comes off so fake. $100,000 is nothing for us! "Not everybody works at tacobell!"


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 04, 2017, 09:01:22 AM
 Australia
M A R K my words...there's where it is.
This is the ROOT of all this.
Watch...
Post 585 on this thread..mark it down.
Give it 7 days MAX and it'll  come out


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 04, 2017, 09:02:57 AM
Liberals are trying to dupe Americans and take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens and they frequently do so using cherry picked and manipulated statistics.

They need to drag out victims of things like this Las Vegas fuckery and use them to shame emotional people into accepting their dishonest premise and solutions.

"If you are against gun cortrol then you must be pro mass shootings and you don't care about the victims of __________"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IULSD8VwXEs

You’ve had a Las Vegas in Chicago every month so far this year and not a peep out of Liberals, but whenever there’s a high-profile shooting they all come out of the woodwork.

Apparently, they care more about country music fans than poor oppressed blacks in Chicago.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 09:10:25 AM
Liberals are trying to dupe Americans and take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens and they frequently do so using cherry picked and manipulated statistics.

They need to drag out victims of things like this Las Vegas fuckery and use them to shame emotional people into accepting their dishonest premise and solutions.

"If you are against gun cortrol then you must be pro mass shootings and you don't care about the victims of __________"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IULSD8VwXEs

So everything thinks Liberals want to take away your gun but when liberals had the president and control of congress and the senate then why didn't they do it?  Why didn't they take your guns away?  Why the fuck would they even try now with Trump in Office and the senate majority being the GOP?  The whole taking guns away is a GOP scare tactic that's been used for years.

There is 1 true fact about america, GOP and Liberals both and that i they love their guns, and they won't be taking guns away from anyone.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 09:10:59 AM
FBI Probing Las Vegas Shooter’s Video of Massacre; Reportedly Sent Live Feed Offshore
True Pundit ^ | 10/3/2017 | True Pundit by Investigative Bureau
Posted on 10/4/2017, 11:42:49 AM by b4its2late

Not only did Stephen Paddock capture the chaos inside his Mandalay Bay hotel suite on video, but now FBI officials are looking to see where he streamed the live footage.

FBI sources said the Mandalay Bay shooter may have used the hotel’s WiFi or hard-wired internet backbone to stream the footage offshore.

FBI sources would not divulge what international locations they are targeting.

Paddock has been linked to wiring hefty amounts of US funds to the Philippines, Australia and possibly the Middle East, federal law enforcement sources said.

Paddock used excessive Mandalay-Bay internet bandwidth during his multiple-day stay in the resort’s suite, FBI sources confirmed.

FBI sources said they also confiscated Paddock’s captured video feeds as part of evidence after the shooter apparently committed suicide.

This story is developing.



You do realize the site you're pulling these "facts" from are mostly bullshit right?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2017, 09:12:55 AM
You do realize the site you're pulling these "facts" from are mostly bullshit right?

Why would he have go pro cameras if he was planning suicide unless he was sending the vid live to someone?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 04, 2017, 09:16:23 AM
You’ve had a Las Vegas in Chicago every month so far this year and not a peep out of Liberals, but whenever there’s a high-profile shooting they all come out of the woodwork.

Apparently, they care more about country music fans than poor oppressed blacks in Chicago.

difference is the so called poor oppressed blacks are shooting each other and not stopping while the country music fans are well, listening to music

but I do agree that they should be taking extreme measures against people shooting each other in chicago and other places in Nort h America, but to do so would involve being accused of racism  ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 09:17:19 AM
M A R K my words...there's where it is.
This is the ROOT of all this.
Watch...
Post 585 on this thread..mark it down.
Give it 7 days MAX and it'll  come out

Don't leave us in suspense, you have to give some kind of clue.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 09:18:41 AM
Marilou's passport is Australian.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Evo on October 04, 2017, 09:19:29 AM
difference is the so called poor oppressed blacks are shooting each other and not stopping while the country music fans are well, listening to music

but I do agree that they should be taking extreme measures against people shooting each other in chicago and other places in Nort h America, but to do so would involve being accused of racism  ::)

When blacks stop perpetuating their own oppression then maybe everyone else will give a shit...

Black Lives Matter - yeah they really matter to other blacks!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 04, 2017, 09:22:28 AM
When was the last time you heard of one black person wounding 500+ and killing 60 people?  ::)


BTW All black people dont live in Chicago. I've never been and don't give 2 fucks what happens there. ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 04, 2017, 09:23:27 AM
While the retarded CT retards keep retarding, some ground zero aftermath. GRAPHIC footage:

http://theync.com/las-vegas-shooting-the-graphic-bloody-after-math.htm


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 04, 2017, 09:23:41 AM
I guess white lives dont matter to other white people. :)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 04, 2017, 09:26:12 AM
Don't leave us in suspense, you have to give some kind of clue.

Just remember...I live and work in Las Vegas.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 09:30:34 AM
I guess white lives dont matter to other white people. :)

Not to his crazy ass brother.

Steeeeeeeve


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 04, 2017, 09:30:52 AM
difference is the so called poor oppressed blacks are shooting each other and not stopping while the country music fans are well, listening to music

but I do agree that they should be taking extreme measures against people shooting each other in chicago and other places in Nort h America, but to do so would involve being accused of racism  ::)

So we don’t really want gun control but politically correct gun control.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 09:31:54 AM
When was the last time you heard of one black person wounding 500+ and killing 60 people?  ::)


BTW All black people dont live in Chicago. I've never been and don't give 2 fucks what happens there. ::)
(https://www.biography.com/.image/c_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Ch_300%2Cq_80%2Cw_300/MTE1ODA0OTcxNTM4MDIzOTQ5/idi-amin-dada-9183487-1-402.jpg)
(http://www.africaranking.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Robert_Mugabe.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 04, 2017, 09:32:42 AM
(https://www.biography.com/.image/c_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Ch_300%2Cq_80%2Cw_300/MTE1ODA0OTcxNTM4MDIzOTQ5/idi-amin-dada-9183487-1-402.jpg)
(http://www.africaranking.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Robert_Mugabe.jpg)

In United States


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 09:34:37 AM
In United States
(http://scms.machteamsoft.ro/uploads/photos/652x450/652x450_173506-barack-pobama.jpg)
(http://malcolmx.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/portrait.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 04, 2017, 09:35:10 AM
In United States

It’s not for lack of trying:

http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2016-enforcement-report.pdf


The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (70.7%). Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (26.9%) of all suspects. White suspects (1.9%) and Asian/Pacific Islander suspects (0.6%) accounted for the remaining portion of known Shooting suspects 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 04, 2017, 09:37:32 AM
(http://scms.machteamsoft.ro/uploads/photos/652x450/652x450_173506-barack-pobama.jpg)
(http://malcolmx.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/portrait.jpg)

I win  :)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 09:38:19 AM
I win  :)

nope, you are still black....


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 09:40:10 AM
(http://scms.machteamsoft.ro/uploads/photos/652x450/652x450_173506-barack-pobama.jpg)
(http://malcolmx.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/portrait.jpg)

Malcom?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 04, 2017, 10:15:19 AM
While the retarded CT retards keep retarding, some ground zero aftermath. GRAPHIC footage:

http://theync.com/las-vegas-shooting-the-graphic-bloody-after-math.htm

Wow they shut the lights off because they say everyone is dead. Meanwhile people are being treated and assessed..sad.. :-\



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
Malcom?

Denzel L. Murphy


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 04, 2017, 10:25:28 AM
Wow they shut the lights off because they say everyone is dead. Meanwhile people are being treated and assessed..sad.. :-\




Yeah that's crazy.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The_Punisher on October 04, 2017, 10:53:15 AM
was this guy been Identified as a Terrorist or does he have to be a Muslim?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 10:55:09 AM
just another unhinged white guy, breaking bad.



was this guy been Identified as a Terrorist or does he have to be a Muslim?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 04, 2017, 11:04:17 AM
When was the last time you heard of one black person wounding 500+ and killing 60 people?  ::)


BTW All black people dont live in Chicago. I've never been and don't give 2 fucks what happens there. ::)

they do a pretty good job of shooting each other on a typical chicago weekend average of 60, so that is like 3000plus shootings which include injured and dead per year.

there are other cities that are just as bad, and the numbers fluctuate, but I can tell you that even here in Toronto although we have a tenth or less of the shootings chicago has 9 times out of a 10 its always a black dude(or dudes) shooting other black(s)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: residue on October 04, 2017, 11:10:06 AM
Liberals are trying to dupe Americans and take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens and they frequently do so using cherry picked and manipulated statistics.

They need to drag out victims of things like this Las Vegas fuckery and use them to shame emotional people into accepting their dishonest premise and solutions.

"If you are against gun cortrol then you must be pro mass shootings and you don't care about the victims of __________"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IULSD8VwXEs

wait so marxist muslim barack hussein obama during sandy hook.. in which precious little white children were slaughtered didn't take away your guns. and folks are still worried about it? come the fuck on


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 04, 2017, 11:28:21 AM
So everything thinks Liberals want to take away your gun but when liberals had the president and control of congress and the senate then why didn't they do it?  Why didn't they take your guns away?  Why the fuck would they even try now with Trump in Office and the senate majority being the GOP?  The whole taking guns away is a GOP scare tactic that's been used for years.

There is 1 true fact about america, GOP and Liberals both and that i they love their guns, and they won't be taking guns away from anyone.

wait so marxist muslim barack hussein obama during sandy hook.. in which precious little white children were slaughtered didn't take away your guns. and folks are still worried about it? come the fuck on

The only reason that guns haven't been taken away is because "for now" the majority of the American people won't allow it.

However, the more the gun grabbing politicians and media spread misinformation around and shame people for exercising their rights eventually people will cave in.  People like that kunt Paul Ryan.

As soon as the left thinks they have the votes the 2nd amendment is going to be changed forever and will be neutered to oblivion.  They have a hard on for this cause and it eventually will happen.

People that mock this and make light of it are part of the propaganda war.  "Don't worry about it, don't worry about it, it'll never happen.....oops you're fucked".


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 04, 2017, 11:35:48 AM
they do a pretty good job of shooting each other on a typical chicago weekend average of 60, so that is like 3000plus shootings which include injured and dead per year.

there are other cities that are just as bad, and the numbers fluctuate, but I can tell you that even here in Toronto although we have a tenth or less of the shootings chicago has 9 times out of a 10 its always a black dude(or dudes) shooting other black(s)

Yes its always a black persons fault when a white man shoot over 500 people. Oh brother ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: phreak on October 04, 2017, 11:45:34 AM
Yes its always a black persons fault when a white man shoot over 500 people. Oh brother ::)
Clearly that is not the case. I believe he just wants to highlight that even with a few mass murders to prop up the numbers, whites still are nowhere near as murderous as blacks.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eric2 on October 04, 2017, 11:47:06 AM
The only reason that guns haven't been taken away is because "for now" the majority of the American people won't allow it.

However, the more the gun grabbing politicians and media spread misinformation around and shame people for exercising their rights eventually people will cave in.  People like that kunt Paul Ryan.

As soon as the left thinks they have the votes the 2nd amendment is going to be changed forever and will be neutered to oblivion.  They have a hard on for this cause and it eventually will happen.

People that mock this and make light of it are part of the propaganda war.  "Don't worry about it, don't worry about it, it'll never happen.....oops you're fucked".

Absolute truth. Reagan has a great qoute. "Freedom is but one generation from being taken away". Each new generation gets watered down its freedoms and beliefs. Eventually it will be that one that just takes it all away. You can believe it will happen one day. I was not a big fan of Trump, yet the number one reason i voted for him was the 2nd amendment.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 12:06:06 PM
Does anybody find it strange that whenever his gambling is brought up it's video poker? Did this guy play live poker?  I never thought of a high roller as a video poker player but I've never been in a casino in my life. I  always thought that kind of stuff was for white trash or retiree's. I think he was money laundering. That would also make a little more sense to me for why he had so many guns.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 04, 2017, 12:25:13 PM
Video poker in the High Limits area is expensive.
He was known in the casino industry to play multiple video poker machines @ $100 a hand. Numerous machines AT ONCE.

When you reach degenerate gambler status as he did, you're playing FAST.
Each game could be over in 20 seconds. Literally.
Do the math.
He was also a well known tipper.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 12:31:59 PM
was this guy been Identified as a Terrorist or does he have to be a Muslim?

Of course not.  The Jewish media has spent the last 15 years making sure that when you hear the word terrorist that you'll think muslim.  Why would they jeopardize what they've worked so hard for?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: residue on October 04, 2017, 12:42:54 PM
The only reason that guns haven't been taken away is because "for now" the majority of the American people won't allow it.

However, the more the gun grabbing politicians and media spread misinformation around and shame people for exercising their rights eventually people will cave in.  People like that kunt Paul Ryan.

As soon as the left thinks they have the votes the 2nd amendment is going to be changed forever and will be neutered to oblivion.  They have a hard on for this cause and it eventually will happen.

People that mock this and make light of it are part of the propaganda war.  "Don't worry about it, don't worry about it, it'll never happen.....oops you're fucked".

Right, and when the majority of americans decide they should be taken away... they will be and rightfully so that's how republic's work


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 04, 2017, 12:49:29 PM
The only reason that guns haven't been taken away is because "for now" the majority of the American people won't allow it.

However, the more the gun grabbing politicians and media spread misinformation around and shame people for exercising their rights eventually people will cave in.  People like that kunt Paul Ryan.

As soon as the left thinks they have the votes the 2nd amendment is going to be changed forever and will be neutered to oblivion.  They have a hard on for this cause and it eventually will happen.

People that mock this and make light of it are part of the propaganda war.  "Don't worry about it, don't worry about it, it'll never happen.....oops you're fucked".

Yup. As the older generation dies out, and the newer generations make their way up, eventually the number of people who don't want guns will outweigh the number of people who do want guns. All policies are embedded within local cultures; there are no transhistorical selves, i.e., a self that transcends its time period. All selves and subsequent beliefs, are embedded in a particular sociohistorical period. And, eventually, there will be a sociohistorical period which will be absent of guns.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: residue on October 04, 2017, 12:50:41 PM
Absolute truth. Reagan has a great qoute. "Freedom is but one generation from being taken away". Each new generation gets watered down its freedoms and beliefs. Eventually it will be that one that just takes it all away. You can believe it will happen one day. I was not a big fan of Trump, yet the number one reason i voted for him was the 2nd amendment.

are you stupid enough to think guns=freedom? counties without guns

tawian
the united kingdom
japan
most of israel
south korea
australia
new zeland
denmark
netherlands

are any of these countries lacking the freedoms americans claim to have? hell the last 2 are easily more "Free" than america is.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 12:50:49 PM
Yup. As the older generation dies out, and the newer generations make their way up, eventually the number of people who don't want guns will outweigh the number of people who do want guns. All policies are embedded within local cultures; there are no transhistorical selves, i.e., a self that transcends its time period. All selves and subsequent beliefs, are embedded in a particular sociohistorical period. And, eventually, there will be a sociohistorical period which will be absent of guns.

yet the government keeps killing civilians as opposed to just waiting...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 12:54:33 PM
How long before all these America Patriots start getting beat to a bloody pulp by the cops while confiscating their weapons , Wonder if  they start raising and saluting an Anarchy flag instead of Ol Glory.  Burning all their Red white and blue and buying NFL apparel to keep warm


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: jr on October 04, 2017, 01:07:55 PM
Why do the conspiracy theorists always come out during these events?

I used to be into some conspiracy theories 10+ years ago.

I was also smoking marijuana everyday at the time, so at least I had a valid excuse for being a delusional paranoid asshole.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 04, 2017, 01:08:04 PM
Clearly that is not the case. I believe he just wants to highlight that even with a few mass murders to prop up the numbers, whites still are nowhere near as murderous as blacks.

Really? Your ancestors would disagree. How old are you? I guess the school system is trying to hide the sins of your people.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 01:10:38 PM

What is a conspiracy theory  ???

Why do the conspiracy theorists always come out during these events?

I used to be into some conspiracy theories 10+ years ago.

I was also smoking marijuana everyday at the time, so at least I had a valid excuse for being a delusional paranoid asshole.




Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: jr on October 04, 2017, 01:13:55 PM
What is a conspiracy theory  ???


You know, like "there was a second shooter", or "it's a false flag to ban guns", etc


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 01:14:00 PM
Of course not.  The Jewish media has spent the last 15 years making sure that when you hear the word terrorist that you'll think muslim.  Why would they jeopardize what they've worked so hard for?

If his objective was to strike fear in the hearts of gun owners than he accomplished his mission.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 04, 2017, 01:15:38 PM
Right, and when the majority of americans decide they should be taken away... they will be and rightfully so that's how republic's work

Yup. As the older generation dies out, and the newer generations make their way up, eventually the number of people who don't want guns will outweigh the number of people who do want guns. All policies are embedded within local cultures; there are no transhistorical selves, i.e., a self that transcends its time period. All selves and subsequent beliefs, are embedded in a particular sociohistorical period. And, eventually, there will be a sociohistorical period which will be absent of guns.

Yes, in a Republic people are free to make bad decisions.  All the more reason for the press to do their jobs and give people accurate information upon which to make important decisions.  Right now our society is in the habit of denying reality.  People pretend we are evolving into a utopia where the evil that happened in the past can never happen again.  They are mistaken.  Human beings are fundamentally evil and there isn't much keeping freedom alive on this planet.  Some people won't realize that until their heads are getting sawed off.

When the pajama boys take over the country there will be some harsh consequences to their ignorance.  Consequences that their estrogen-dominant pussy asses will be ill-prepared to deal with.  They deserve what they get and I don't feel sorry for them in the least.  I'd just prefer that I don't get fucked up with them.  I'm not wealthy enough to build a doomsday bunker in a remote island like Mark Cuckerberg.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 01:16:10 PM
 (https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/article_small/public/thumbnails/image/2017/10/04/12/trump-aid-puerto-rico.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 04, 2017, 01:17:13 PM
Yes, in a Republic people are free to make bad decisions.  All the more reason for the press to do their jobs and give people accurate information upon which to make important decisions.  Right now our society is in the habit of denying reality.  People pretend we are evolving into a utopia where the evil that happened in the past can never happen again.  They are mistaken.  Human beings are fundamentally evil and their isn't much keeping freedom alive on this planet.  Some people won't realize that until their heads are getting sawed off.

When the pajama boys take over the country there will be some harsh consequences to their ignorance.  Consequences that their estrogen-dominant pussy asses will be ill-prepared to deal with.  They deserve what they get and I don't feel sorry for them in the least.  I'd just prefer that I don't get fucked up with them.  I'm not wealthy enough to build a doomsday bunker in a remote island like Mark Cuckerberg.

Well, hopefully we will be dead before a lot of bad stuff happens.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Griffith on October 04, 2017, 01:19:42 PM
In the Roman Republic all citizens had the right to have weapons, to defend their republic and also to depose potential tyrants.

In the Roman Empire, a dictatorship, citizens were prohibited from carrying weapons to prevent uprisings.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 04, 2017, 01:21:36 PM
Well, hopefully we will be dead before a lot of bad stuff happens.

I used to think so, not anymore.  The cowardice and apathy of good men is handing this planet over to evil.  Europe is lost and the United States is right behind them.

I apologize for derailing this thread and taking the focus off of the victims of this massacre.  My tiny words can't prevent what's coming but in futility I try.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 04, 2017, 01:22:19 PM
are you stupid enough to think guns=freedom? counties without guns

tawian
the united kingdom
japan
most of israel
south korea
australia
new zeland
denmark
netherlands

are any of these countries lacking the freedoms americans claim to have? hell the last 2 are easily more "Free" than america is.


Just stop it. You only want to take the guns from certain people as you would never support the type of aggressive policing necessary to get the guns out of the hands of the people who are doing the most shooting.



http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2016-enforcement-report.pdf


The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (70.7%). Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (26.9%) of all suspects. White suspects (1.9%) and Asian/Pacific Islander suspects (0.6%) accounted for the remaining portion of known Shooting suspects 



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 04, 2017, 01:23:13 PM
I use this argument to shut up FB screamers all the time on this issue. 

Just stop it. You only want to take the guns from certain people as you would never support the type of aggressive policing necessary to get the guns out of the hands of the people who are doing the most shooting.



http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2016-enforcement-report.pdf


The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (70.7%). Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (26.9%) of all suspects. White suspects (1.9%) and Asian/Pacific Islander suspects (0.6%) accounted for the remaining portion of known Shooting suspects 




Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 04, 2017, 01:28:01 PM
are you stupid enough to think guns=freedom? counties without guns

tawian
the united kingdom
japan
most of israel
south korea
australia
new zeland
denmark
netherlands

are any of these countries lacking the freedoms americans claim to have? hell the last 2 are easily more "Free" than america is.



You think some of those places are free?  In the UK they are putting people in jail for Facebook posts.

Also, when the safety and sovereignty of many of those countries is threatened, who do they look to for protection?

I think the USA is a pretty big deterrent for those folks much like China deters people from sorting out the Kim regime in South Korea.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 01:30:21 PM
You know, like "there was a second shooter", or "it's a false flag to ban guns", etc


The majority of deaths from firearms are suicides and blacks. The left doesn't seem to give a shit till some white beta loser or psychopath goes on a rampage and when they do it's usually always white people who are the victims. The media keeps harping  about the danger of white nationalists but it clearly isn't much of a threat. One obese whale died in charlottesville and she wasn't even struck by the veichle, she died from a heart attack.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 01:32:32 PM
Well, hopefully we will be dead before a lot of bad stuff happens.

You don't have children.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 04, 2017, 01:33:06 PM
I use this argument to shut up FB screamers all the time on this issue. 


They always want to trot out gun statistics except for the one about who is actually using them to commit crimes.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 04, 2017, 01:33:19 PM
The majority of deaths from firearms are suicides and blacks. The left doesn't seem to give a shit till some white beta loser or psychopath goes on a rampage and when they do it's usually always white people who are the victims. The media keeps harping  about the danger of white nationalists but it clearly isn't much of a threat. One obese whale died in charlottesville and she wasn't even struck by the veichle, she died from a heart attack.

Exactly.  People need to watch the Steven Crowder video I posted earlier in the thread.  It spells things out quite well.  

We are being bamboozled. The people that would obey gun laws aren't the ones doing the murdering and the government and the elites know this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IULSD8VwXEs


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 01:36:33 PM

You think some of those places are free?  In the UK they are putting people in jail for Facebook posts.

Also, when the safety and sovereignty of many of those countries is threatened, who do they look to for protection?

I think the USA is a pretty big deterrent for those folks much like China deters people from sorting out the Kim regime in South Korea.



I feel bad for the british, what a nightmare.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 04, 2017, 01:44:33 PM
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Malcolm X and Obama are way different. Malcolm was ahead of his time. Obama wouldn't appreciate Malcolm's "The Ballet or the Bullet" speech. Most of Malcolm's later work reflected the idea that one takes care family and community, not relying on the the government to take care of you. By black folk signing onto LBJ social programs and "I don't need a man", this led to a person's natural inclination to want to do better for themselves, to be taken away. Socialism is another way of creating a plantation.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 04, 2017, 01:45:19 PM
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KOBE!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 01:47:17 PM
Exactly.  People need to watch the Steven Crowder video I posted earlier in the thread.  It spells things out quite well.  

We are being bamboozled. The people that would obey gun laws aren't the ones doing the murdering and the government and the elites know this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IULSD8VwXEs

Australian's like to point out their homicide numbers dropped after their gun ban but they don't have to deal with a million and a half gangbangers and mexican cartels.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 01:51:41 PM
Australian's like to point out their homicide numbers dropped after their gun ban but they don't have to deal with a million and a half gangbangers and mexican cartels.
Australian population.
77% White

10% East and Southeast Asian

5% South Asian

3% West Asian and Arab

1% Maori and Pacific Islander

0.7% African

0.6% Latin American

3% Aboriginal


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: DooM_ on October 04, 2017, 01:52:40 PM
Australian population.
77% White

10% East and Southeast Asian

5% South Asian

3% West Asian and Arab

1% Maori and Pacific Islander

0.7% African

0.6% Latin American

3% Aboriginal

0.7 % crime rate ?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 04, 2017, 01:54:04 PM
0.7 % crime rate ?
no, thats the population by %

Maybe thats why they dont have a high gun crime...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 01:54:17 PM
Malcolm X and Obama way different. Malcolm was ahead of his time. Obama wouldn't appreciate Malcolm's "The Ballet or the Bullet" speech. Most of Malcolm's later work reflected the idea that one takes care family and community, not relying on the white man aka the government to take care of you. By black folk signing onto LBJ social programs and "I don't need a man", this led to a person's natural inclination to want to do better for themselves, to be taken away. Socialism is another way of creating a plantation.

Exactly, X promoted self sufficiency. Even if he hadn't been killed by the NOI he probably would of been assassinated soon after.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 04, 2017, 01:55:39 PM
Homocide numbers are dropping in the United States as well, except for a few places:


2017 is on pace for the second-lowest crime rate since 1990 — and near-record low murders

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2017/09/06/2017-is-on-pace-to-have-the-second-lowest-crime-rate-since-1990-and-near-record-low-murders/


America’s Top Cities for Homicides Are on Track for Historic Rates in 2017

https://www.thetrace.org/2017/07/gun-homicide-rates-baltimore-st-lous-detroit/


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 01:56:09 PM
he means there is 0.7% crime rate because of the 0.7% African population

 :-\

no, thats the population by %

Maybe thats why they dont have a high gun crime...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 04, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
Australian's like to point out their homicide numbers dropped after their gun ban but they don't have to deal with a million and a half gangbangers and mexican cartels.

It's also worth pointing out that homicide numbers in the USA have already been declining for many years..........without a gun ban. (Thin Lizzy beat me to it)

Gun grabbers don't want to stop murders and they don't give a fuck about the victims of mass shootings.  They don't like guns, they don't understand guns, and they don't want anyone to have guns.  

They are playing the long game and Vegas is just another means to that end.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 04, 2017, 01:58:23 PM
It's also worth pointing out that homicide numbers in the USA have already been declining for many years..........without a gun ban.

Gun grabbers don't want to stop murders and they don't give a fuck about the victims of mass shootings.  They don't like guns, they don't understand guns, and they don't want anyone to have guns.  

They are playing the long game and Vegas is just another means to that end.

P4W, an important question:

If most getbiggers consider their hands and feet to be lethal weapons, would a getbigger need a gun to protect himself?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 04, 2017, 01:59:27 PM
P4W, an important question:

If most getbiggers consider their hands and feet to be lethal weapons, would a getbigger need a gun to protect himself?

Well, Getbiggers don't need guns, I'm taking about regular people.  I thought that went without saying.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 02:17:06 PM
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Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 04, 2017, 02:55:42 PM
I agree on the ban of fully automatic weapons (which is already in effect), but I do think that Americans should be able to own handguns, shotguns, hunting rifles, and and semi automatic weapons such as the AR-15.

I fully understand (from the Governments point of view) about not letting every Tom, Dick, and Harry, having the right to own weapons that can compete with the U.S. Army. Heavy weaponry and citizens do not mix. Just take the incident in L.A. years, ago, where two guys with body armour, and automatic assault rifles, took an entire police force, and a city, captive after trying to rob a bank.

My question is this: Where do we draw the line? Our Forefathers, the creators of The Second Amendment, lived in a day, where they shot musket balls from rifles and pistols. They were prophetic in many things, but I doubt that they could envision the thought of what weaponry would be available to today's Americans.

You guys blame the government. Why wouldn't a government watch its own back?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 04, 2017, 03:19:29 PM
::: ummmm :::

Hey guys...ummmm....
There were some here that said there was a second shooter.
Don't know about THAT *but* it appears he didn't act alone.


Details to follow.




Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 03:23:09 PM



I agree on the ban of fully automatic weapons (which is already in effect), but I do think that Americans should be able to own handguns, shotguns, hunting rifles, and and semi automatic weapons such as the AR-15.

I fully understand (from the Governments point of view) about not letting every Tom, Dick, and Harry, having the right to own weapons that can compete with the U.S. Army. Heavy weaponry and citizens do not mix. Just take the incident in L.A. years, ago, where two guys with body armour, and automatic assault rifles, took an entire police force, and a city, captive after trying to rob a bank.

My question is this: Where do we draw the line? Our Forefathers, the creators of The Second Amendment, lived in a day, where they shot musket balls from rifles and pistols. They were prophetic in many things, but I doubt that they could envision the thought of what weaponry would be available to today's Americans.

You guys blame the government. Why wouldn't a government watch its own back?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LORVfnFtcH0


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 04, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
Good job to whoever made that brilliant video.  I love to discuss extremely complex Constitutional issues with childlike simplicity and a false premise. 

Which other of the God given rights delineated in our Constitution have now become obsolete?



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 04, 2017, 03:53:27 PM
"Girlfriend of Las Vegas gunman: ‘It never occurred to me ... that he was planning violence."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/04/investigators-question-girlfriend-of-las-vegas-shooter-seeking-to-probe-mind-of-shooter/?utm_term=.4a166a1ae5b3

The girlfriend of Stephen Paddock, the gunman who opened fire on a country music festival in Las Vegas earlier this week, said Wednesday that she had no warning about his plans to carry out the massacre.

“I knew Stephen Paddock as a kind, caring, quiet man,” Marilou Danley, Paddock’s girlfriend, said in a statement read by her attorney. “He never said anything to me or took any action that I was aware of that I understood in any way to be a warning that something horrible like this was going to happen.”

Danley was out of the country when Paddock, 64, carried out his rampage, officials said. She returned late Tuesday to Los Angeles, where FBI agents interviewed her on Wednesday.

In her statement, read aloud by her attorney, Danley said she left the country because Paddock bought her a ticket to visit family in the Philippines. While there, she said, Paddock wired her money that he explained was meant to help her purchase a home for Danley and her family.

“I was grateful, but honestly, I was worried, that first, the unexpected trip home, and then the money, was a way of breaking up with me,” she said. “It never occurred to me in any way whatsoever that he was planning violence against anyone.”


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 04:40:55 PM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV5fXPVeZoQ


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 04, 2017, 05:37:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV5fXPVeZoQ

Good grief, look at the smug douchey look on that idiots face.  Ya know, I heard someone make an interesting point recently but I can't remember who otherwise I'd give credit.

Basically he said that he left has completely lost the trust and viewership of the American people in legitimate news media.  As a result they have had to use comedy as the vehicle to get their propaganda messages out to the people.  The Daily Show, SNL, Jimmy Kimmel.  These people have basically given up the idea of entertaining people and making them laugh.  Now they are completely focused on being Democrat shills.  Crying about health care, crying about gun control, hammering Trump every single night relentlessly.  Laughter is a distant second on their priority list.  I just hope eventually people flee from them just like thy did from CNN.

Lying Democrat whores every last one of them.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Dan-O on October 04, 2017, 05:39:58 PM
Good grief, look at the smug douchey look on that idiots face.  Ya know, I heard someone make an interesting point recently but I can't remember who otherwise I'd give credit.

Basically he said that he left has completely lost the trust and viewership of the American people in legitimate news media.  As a result they have had to use comedy as the vehicle to get their propaganda messages out to the people.  The Daily Show, SNL, Jimmy Kimmel.  These people have basically given up the idea of entertaining people and making them laugh.  Now they are completely focused on being Democrat shills.  Crying about health care, crying about gun control, hammering Trump every single night relentlessly.  Laughter is a distant second on their priority list.  I just hope eventually people flee from them just like thy did from CNN.

Lying Democrat whores every last one of them.

HBO's John Oliver is another one of these liberal shills.  He's not even funny.  I swear the studio just plays a laugh track every time he moves his stupid un-funny mouth.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 06:43:18 PM
::: ummmm :::

Hey guys...ummmm....
There were some here that said there was a second shooter.
Don't know about THAT *but* it appears he didn't act alone.


Details to follow.

old news, there's video of shooter from 4th floor

FAKE FLAG OPERATION OR AN FBI STING GONE ROGUE


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 06:49:32 PM
Princess L posted a link from the snoops website of a video taken from a person during the concert that showed that same section of the building and window flashing before the shooting started, looks like a some type of strobe light


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 04, 2017, 07:54:07 PM
Las Vegas Strip shooter targeted aviation fuel tanks, source says

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-shooter-targeted-aviation-fuel-tanks-source-says/ (https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-shooter-targeted-aviation-fuel-tanks-source-says/)


Las Vegas shooting: Stephen Paddock 'spent decades hoarding guns and did NOT act alone'

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/862496/Las-Vegas-shooter-motive-killer-mass-murderer-Stephen-Paddock-Marilou-Danley-FBI-gun (http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/862496/Las-Vegas-shooter-motive-killer-mass-murderer-Stephen-Paddock-Marilou-Danley-FBI-gun)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 04, 2017, 07:56:40 PM
old news, there's video of shooter from 4th floor

FAKE FLAG OPERATION OR AN FBI STING GONE ROGUE

Secure your helmet, retard.

Fucking sheep.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 08:00:36 PM
Secure your helmet, retard.

Fucking sheep.

I AM A PROUD SHEEP

(http://i.pinimg.com/originals/7c/ed/42/7ced427b27e51944cdd2a11d3827008b.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 04, 2017, 08:01:31 PM
I AM A PROUD SHEEP

(http://i.pinimg.com/originals/7c/ed/42/7ced427b27e51944cdd2a11d3827008b.jpg)

Live deliciously, then.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 08:17:28 PM
Live deliciously, then.

TOP SHEEPLE APPROVED!!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 04, 2017, 08:21:48 PM
#13 neck tattoo ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 04, 2017, 08:22:24 PM
TOP SHEEPLE APPROVED!!

Double exclamations suggests ignorance, but you do you.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 08:28:01 PM
Double exclamations suggests ignorance, but you do you.

no they doesnt


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 08:28:44 PM
They expect one of us in the wreckage brother.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 08:43:53 PM
They expect one of us in the wreckage brother.

i know dear bro

i wonder if anybody important was at that concert, or was supposed to be at that concert?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 04, 2017, 09:03:00 PM
no they doesnt


lol at people think GSP is clean, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 09:12:26 PM

lol at people think GSP is clean, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


(https://media.giphy.com/media/qryGWflHFCKv6/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 04, 2017, 09:16:13 PM
Like I said earlier in the thread, he didn't act alone. Shots fired at caesars and belagio. How did they expect to keep this covered up? The media is lying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m7X63stwf8


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: jude2 on October 04, 2017, 09:24:07 PM
#13 neck tattoo ???
That is the first pic I saw with the 13 on his neck.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 04, 2017, 09:33:14 PM
Like I said earlier in the thread, he didn't act alone. Shots fired at caesars and belagio. How did they expect to keep this covered up? The media is lying.



it's a very sloppy coverup, probably because it's a very sloppy attack, probably because trump has disturbed the deep state


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 04, 2017, 09:35:57 PM
Like I said earlier in the thread, he didn't act alone. Shots fired at caesars and belagio. How did they expect to keep this covered up? The media is lying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m7X63stwf8

Was anyone injured at Caesars or Bellagios?   ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 04, 2017, 09:36:43 PM
That is the first pic I saw with the 13 on his neck.

It was posted a couple of times on page 2 of this thread but the tattoo, marker pen, or whatever it is, is easy to overlook.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: jude2 on October 04, 2017, 09:45:27 PM
It was posted a couple of times on page 2 of this thread but the tattoo, marker pen, or whatever it is, is easy to overlook.
I looked for it. It looks like marker pen.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 04, 2017, 09:48:25 PM
It looks like wrinkled up turkey neck you paranoid fucks.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 04, 2017, 10:31:33 PM

lol at people think GSP is clean, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

 ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 11:48:29 PM

Interesting

In the future she should also make note of the date and time of her documenting the event.

Any hard evidenced she is talking about Sunday? I see that youtube channel isn't her's

Like I said earlier in the thread, he didn't act alone. Shots fired at caesars and belagio. How did they expect to keep this covered up? The media is lying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m7X63stwf8


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 05, 2017, 12:45:55 AM
Interesting

In the future she should also make note of the date and time of her documenting the event.

Any hard evidenced she is talking about Sunday? I see that youtube channel isn't her's

She said she was on the 32nd floor of the Bellagio as well?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 01:13:29 AM
Interesting

In the future she should also make note of the date and time of her documenting the event.

Any hard evidenced she is talking about Sunday? I see that youtube channel isn't her's


Why would she need to?  There's audio and wrtten transcript of strike teams sent to caesar's, belagio, excaliber and the tropicana.

It's all being kept quiet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY3BBMYJqEo

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/78f0d2a31e9b0af7e30da0ab152d8092/tumblr_oxab8xEkoP1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/07f345e0f0d41b8dafb0e7be1f93dbd0/tumblr_oxab70hwF31wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 05, 2017, 01:40:04 AM
Wonder how many shooters there were total.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 02:50:01 AM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/d70697b0b84788c6a1a76de62429a943/tumblr_oxcg90OJU71wd3uyro1_1280.png)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/24178c11a87b46f7793d17ab51c879f9/tumblr_oxcgaf6ER11wd3uyro1_540.png)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/93354c14d0f5ed5d63899c5246e7bd69/tumblr_oxcgcbXD2H1wd3uyro1_540.png)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 05, 2017, 02:53:18 AM
SEVEN SHOOTERS MOTHERFUCKERS!!

like 9/11 on a smaller scale

good job deep state, so proud of you


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 05, 2017, 03:54:07 AM
Like I said earlier in the thread, he didn't act alone. Shots fired at caesars and belagio. How did they expect to keep this covered up? The media is lying.

The media lies about everything... they've been doing it for decades.  They are the mouthpiece for the deep state. 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 05, 2017, 04:15:20 AM
The media lies about everything... they've been doing it for decades.  They are the mouthpiece for the deep state. 


(http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/dppd6.jpg)



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 05, 2017, 04:33:51 AM
SEVEN SHOOTERS MOTHERFUCKERS!!

like 9/11 on a smaller scale

good job deep state, so proud of you

A lot of things make zero sense here.  This guy might be a patsy for others. 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 05, 2017, 04:34:45 AM
Wonder how many shooters there were total.
Just make up a number and keep repeating it. It eventually will become a "fact".


(http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/dppd6.jpg)


Hold up, I thought it was another group?
 https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-the-cia-owns-everyone-of-any-significance-in-the-major-media.t158/ (https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-the-cia-owns-everyone-of-any-significance-in-the-major-media.t158/)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 05, 2017, 04:36:17 AM
There is quite an incredible spread of relationships. You don’t need to manipulate Time magazine, for example, because there are [Central Intelligence] Agency people at the management level."
--William B. Bader, former CIA intelligence officer, briefing members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein

"The Agency's relationship with [The New York] Times was by far its most valuable among newspapers, according to CIA officials. [It was] general Times policy ... to provide assistance to the CIA whenever possible."
--The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 05, 2017, 04:42:51 AM
There is quite an incredible spread of relationships. You don’t need to manipulate Time magazine, for example, because there are [Central Intelligence] Agency people at the management level."
--William B. Bader, former CIA intelligence officer, briefing members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein

"The Agency's relationship with [The New York] Times was by far its most valuable among newspapers, according to CIA officials. [It was] general Times policy ... to provide assistance to the CIA whenever possible."
--The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein
Yep, but doesn't say that they own it. Also look that was a long time ago.Again, it's been said that Rothschilds & Co own the media, and then the People of Book.

Now here is the thing, what some of you are claiming is that the CIA, along with the FBI, are conspiring with media outlets to keep the narrative to one shooter. For what gain?
And what's next, claim that the people who were shot and killed were actors? That this was all planned to get senators riled up, and force "gun control" to forefront to take the news off of the the growing political divide on this country?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 05, 2017, 04:45:40 AM
obviously not for gun control, these weren't legal weapons ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 05, 2017, 04:48:28 AM
Yep, but doesn't say that they own it. Also look that was a long time ago.Again, it's been said that Rothschilds & Co own the media, and then the People of Book.

Now here is the thing, what some of you are claiming is that the CIA, along with the FBI, are conspiring with media outlets to keep the narrative to one shooter. For what gain?
And what's next, claim that the people who were shot and killed were actors? That this was all planned to get senators riled up, and force "gun control" to forefront to take the news off of the the growing political divide on this country?


Another Getbig government sympathizer, shill and apologist.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 05, 2017, 04:51:47 AM
Another Getbig government sympathizer, shill and apologist.

he's a verified moron


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: phreak on October 05, 2017, 04:54:00 AM
Right, and when the majority of americans decide they should be taken away... they will be and rightfully so that's how republic's work
Not quite. By that logic rights of any minority can be taken away. Is that the world you want to live in?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 05, 2017, 04:59:11 AM
SEVEN SHOOTERS MOTHERFUCKERS!!

like 9/11 on a smaller scale

good job deep state, so proud of you

Is there any evidence of other shooters? 

obviously not for gun control, these weren't legal weapons ::)

The weapons used were 100% legal, weren't they?   ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 05, 2017, 05:03:30 AM
Is there any evidence of other shooters?  

The weapons used were 100% legal, weren't they?   ???

evidence: police radio + eye witness reports + vast amounts of videos being uploaded to youtube showing this (and being subsequently VERY QUICKLY deleted by goolag)

weapons: no these are not legal to own

in fact a few months back a suspiciously similar cache of weapons mysteriously disappeared from the israeli military.... with the same ammunitions...

hmmmm


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 05, 2017, 05:20:23 AM
evidence: police radio + eye witness reports + vast amounts of videos being uploaded to youtube showing this (and being subsequently VERY QUICKLY deleted by goolag)

weapons: no these are not legal to own

in fact a few months back a suspiciously similar cache of weapons mysteriously disappeared from the israeli military.... with the same ammunitions...

hmmmm

The weapons were standard AR15, with slide fire stocks.  You can get them at any gun store.  What are you talking about?   ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 05, 2017, 05:30:25 AM
The weapons were standard AR15, with slide fire stocks.  You can get them at any gun store.  What are you talking about?   ???

WRONG, THEY WERE SEMI AUTOMATICS WHICH ARE NOT SOLD EASILY


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Rambone on October 05, 2017, 05:34:07 AM
WRONG, THEY WERE SEMI AUTOMATICS WHICH ARE NOT SOLD EASILY

You’re legally retarded. HTH


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 05, 2017, 05:39:12 AM
You’re legally retarded. HTH

THANK YOU FOR THE UNDERSTANDING DEAR SHILLING LEFTIST BRO


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 05, 2017, 05:44:23 AM
WRONG, THEY WERE SEMI AUTOMATICS WHICH ARE NOT SOLD EASILY

I see you're just trolling at this point.  Semi okay trolling.  Your delivery needs work though.   :-\


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 05, 2017, 06:41:21 AM
People are posting so much bullshit online now and you dumb fucks come posting it here as gospel and truth.  99% of Twitter posts are garbage, 99% of facebook posts are garbage.  Stop using those sites as truth.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 05, 2017, 07:24:38 AM
Semi's are legal and very easy to get.
Bump stock's are legal, chap and easy to get.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/can-a-bump-stock-make-a-ar-15-fire-full-auto-like-a-machine-gun-yes-and-its-relatively-cheap-pretty-easy-and-completely-legal/article/2636432


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 05, 2017, 07:40:10 AM
Poodle...you are completely incorrect.

Every firearm ...even the quantity of firearms used, was and still is totally legal.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: residue on October 05, 2017, 07:46:39 AM
Not quite. By that logic rights of any minority can be taken away. Is that the world you want to live in?

that's the world we live in right now;
gay marriage
abortion
gun rights
drinking age
euthanasia
medical marijuana
legalized prostitution

all "rights" decided by the majority


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 05, 2017, 07:56:35 AM
Dishonesty and irrationality abounds with leftists but I guess to them the ends justify the means.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLTW8NoW4AAcU7N.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: bigkid on October 05, 2017, 08:01:11 AM
Has it even been completely released yet what he had in the room? He could have had illegal full autos and semi autos with bump stocks.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 05, 2017, 08:08:21 AM
Stephen Paddock was brilliant, had an intimate knowledge of the Second Amendment and...
Daily Mail ^ | 4 Oct 2017 | Emily Crane and James Wilkinson
Posted on 10/5/2017, 5:29:11 AM by Meet the New Boss

Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock has been described as a brilliant man who had an intimate knowledge of the second amendment and a room dedicated to his guns, according to a friend.

The Australian man, who wanted to remain anonymous, had multiple encounters with Paddock between 2013 and 2015 after he started dating his girlfriend's sister.

snip

As investigators reconstruct the life and recent activities of Paddock in a bid to work out a motive, details keep emerging that suggest the gunman's mental health had deteriorated on the months prior to the massacre.

Paddock had reportedly experienced significant weight loss in the lead up to the shooting. He also developed an obsession with his girlfriend's ex-husband, Geary Danley, with whom she had been married to for more than 20 years before they finalized their divorce in 2015.

snip

Both Paddock and Danley disappeared from the home within a couple of weeks in August, Page said.

'I remember at the start of August looking out of my window and seeing Stephen pull up in a brand new huge silver minivan,' she explained.

'But just a few days later he left the house in it and was never seen again.'

She continued: 'I thought the whole situation was even weirder when two weeks later I then look out of my window again to see Marilou stuffing her car full of all her belongings.

'Over the course of three or four days it was like she was moving her entire life out of the house. She packed so much stuff not only was her car full, but it was also tied to the top of her car.

'After a few days of packing she too pulled out of the driveway and was never seen again.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 05, 2017, 08:09:38 AM
Stephen Paddock was brilliant, had an intimate knowledge of the Second Amendment and...
Daily Mail ^ | 4 Oct 2017 | Emily Crane and James Wilkinson
Posted on 10/5/2017, 5:29:11 AM by Meet the New Boss

Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock has been described as a brilliant man who had an intimate knowledge of the second amendment and a room dedicated to his guns, according to a friend.

The Australian man, who wanted to remain anonymous, had multiple encounters with Paddock between 2013 and 2015 after he started dating his girlfriend's sister.

snip

As investigators reconstruct the life and recent activities of Paddock in a bid to work out a motive, details keep emerging that suggest the gunman's mental health had deteriorated on the months prior to the massacre.

Paddock had reportedly experienced significant weight loss in the lead up to the shooting. He also developed an obsession with his girlfriend's ex-husband, Geary Danley, with whom she had been married to for more than 20 years before they finalized their divorce in 2015.

snip

Both Paddock and Danley disappeared from the home within a couple of weeks in August, Page said.

'I remember at the start of August looking out of my window and seeing Stephen pull up in a brand new huge silver minivan,' she explained.

'But just a few days later he left the house in it and was never seen again.'

She continued: 'I thought the whole situation was even weirder when two weeks later I then look out of my window again to see Marilou stuffing her car full of all her belongings.

'Over the course of three or four days it was like she was moving her entire life out of the house. She packed so much stuff not only was her car full, but it was also tied to the top of her car.

'After a few days of packing she too pulled out of the driveway and was never seen again.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...

The dailymail is a bullshit news site like the national Enquirer.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 05, 2017, 08:50:14 AM
I give it til June of next year before Mark Wahlberg is the lead in a movie where a Vegas Cop takes this guy down , Summer blockbuster movie


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 05, 2017, 08:54:05 AM
The dailymail is a bullshit news site like the national Enquirer.

didnt say I believe it but thats whats being reported.

I think this guy is like Lee Harvey Oswald - a patsy.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: phreak on October 05, 2017, 08:58:24 AM
that's the world we live in right now;
gay marriage
abortion
gun rights
drinking age
euthanasia
medical marijuana
legalized prostitution

all "rights" decided by the majority

None of those take any of your rights away.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 05, 2017, 09:01:25 AM
I give it til June of next year before Mark Wahlberg is the lead in a movie where a Vegas Cop takes this guy down , Summer blockbuster movie

Directed by Peter Berg or Michael Bay.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 05, 2017, 09:04:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ6EaATQ3tI


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 05, 2017, 09:17:08 AM
Dishonesty and irrationality abounds with leftists but I guess to them the ends justify the means.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLTW8NoW4AAcU7N.jpg:large)

Why is Cam Newton involved?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Princess L on October 05, 2017, 09:34:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ6EaATQ3tI

Sounds like the difference between an open car window and closed one  ???-\


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 05, 2017, 10:05:18 AM
Sounds like the difference between an open car window and closed one  ???-\

The above video is sourcing the original video below shot by Los Vegas cab driver Cori Langdon. Disparate gun noises can be heard from the same car with the same window status.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpcqS6ZiCuw


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 10:07:20 AM
People are posting so much bullshit online now and you dumb fucks come posting it here as gospel and truth.  99% of Twitter posts are garbage, 99% of facebook posts are garbage.  Stop using those sites as truth.


I hear ya. So if we take away the tweets, fb posts and all other nonsense away which there seems to be no shortage of we
still have the police scanner. You actually hear that medics at the tropicana are being fired at.

The video taken at the belagio was obviously the same night I don't know what more proof you need. As far as neck tattoo's, arms dealing (they're in his name that makes no sense) or the sacrifice of gentiles to moloch, I think it's all ridiculous. I don't think there was more than one shooter at mandalay. The other casino shootings were a distraction tactic to cause chaos which an officer actually says over the radio.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 05, 2017, 10:12:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ6EaATQ3tI

Black Nike shirt so he means business with this getbig analysis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbWa23FvdXk


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 05, 2017, 10:13:32 AM
More info about this will probably leak eventually.  The douchbag allegedly recorded his killing spree so if there was two shooters eventualy it will get sorted out.

It could be just one douchebag moving between his two firing positions.  Barrels get hot as fuck when shooting sustained full auto.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 05, 2017, 10:14:32 AM
Like I said earlier in the thread, he didn't act alone. Shots fired at caesars and belagio. How did they expect to keep this covered up? The media is lying.
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KZZ6mZwbA


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 10:48:09 AM
That's stating the obvious. If we're talking about ratings than the fact they aren't tellling the public makes no sense. They're already having a field day with this, so imagine if they reported about the other shooters still at large. They sell fear, that's what gives them ratings.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: anvil on October 05, 2017, 11:26:17 AM
That's stating the obvious. If we're talking about ratings than the fact they aren't tellling the public makes no sense. They're already having a field day with this, so imagine if they reported about the other shooters still at large. They sell fear, that's what gives them ratings.

I wonder what the ratings were for Jizzy Cumhole's (Jimmy Kimmel's) show when he was trying to do his ridiculous phony crying routine.  Never watch that estrogen-filled douche but I sure got a good laugh at his crybaby shit on youtube



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: HTexan on October 05, 2017, 11:29:32 AM
You know people have a point. I mean, white people scare me. Every time I look in the mirror, this white man is staring back at me so I get my gun, and that white dude in the mirror is pointing a gun a me! He does stop until I put my down first! J/k ;D ;D :P


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 11:32:42 AM
That's stating the obvious. If we're talking about ratings than the fact they aren't tellling the public makes no sense. They're already having a field day with this, so imagine if they reported about the other shooters still at large. They sell fear, that's what gives them ratings.

That makes sense.. please don't get in the habit of posting that stuff here.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 11:33:54 AM
WRONG, THEY WERE SEMI AUTOMATICS WHICH ARE NOT SOLD EASILY

You are banned from posting for 72 hours, this is beyond the reasonably ignorant level.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Skeletor on October 05, 2017, 11:39:51 AM
(http://c1.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/BUYCQ_tCAAA0JYk.jpg-large.jpeg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 05, 2017, 11:43:46 AM
When is the media gonna tell us that he had two rooms?



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: HTexan on October 05, 2017, 11:45:17 AM
(http://c1.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/BUYCQ_tCAAA0JYk.jpg-large.jpeg)

I’m I the only person that hates glocks? M&P over that shit any day of the week.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 05, 2017, 11:47:41 AM
I’m I the only person that hates glocks? M&P over that shit any day of the week.
Never used an M&P but I would in a second over an ugly ass Glock.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 11:48:34 AM
I’m I the only person that hates glocks? M&P over that shit any day of the week.

I used an M&P for the last few years of my career. Started out with a Beretta, went Glock for a couple years, went back to Beretta then the department mandated everyone have the same weapon and bought the M&P's. As long as it fires when I pull the trigger and I can get a good grouping I really don't care what gun it is. As a off duty carry I had the Glock 27 I think it was and I found it too thick. Went to a small Beretta 9000 and stuck with it.    


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 05, 2017, 11:49:53 AM
You are banned from posting for 72 hours, this is beyond the reasonably ignorant level.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 05, 2017, 11:53:05 AM
Went to a small Beretta...
::sidenote::
Beretta is the standard carry firearm issued by Mandalay Bay to it's armed officers.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 11:56:08 AM
(http://c1.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/BUYCQ_tCAAA0JYk.jpg-large.jpeg)


They still haven't figured out yet that an assault rifle has selective fire.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 11:57:34 AM
When is the media gonna tell us that he had two rooms?



I suppose when there is ample evidence he had two rooms. It's been my experience, the news media wants all the details as soon as possible. They love a scoop. Often times they will run with a story prematurely and get things wrong.
The police have no interest in covering up details, but they weigh what they can release without hindering the investigation, with getting the information out to the public. I've seen on more than one occasion the police, hell, my department, release details shortly after an event, trying to appease the public, and then later have to recount that information. In every  case, there was a certain segment of the citizens that immediately cry "cover up". So it's always a risk shortly after an incident.
There may have been two shooters, there may not have been. Lack of windows broken out would indicate if there was, it wasn't from that casino or at least the rooms. But whatever the truth, I have no doubt as that information becomes clear, we will know it when it's appropriate to let it out.   


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 11:57:50 AM
When is the media gonna tell us that he had two rooms?



That, they have done.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 05, 2017, 12:03:52 PM
That, they have done.

Where?
Floor 32...and floor 4?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 05, 2017, 12:06:16 PM
I’m I the only person that hates glocks? M&P over that shit any day of the week.

Hating Glocks is like hating sunshine, rainbows, puppy dogs, and ice cream.  Incomprehensible.

I don't step out of my front door without a Glock 19.  Other than my cock, it's my favorite tool.  I spend about the same amount of time fondling each of them


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 05, 2017, 12:09:44 PM
Where?
Floor 32...and floor 4?


Allegedly, the 2 smashed windows on floor 32 were on separate but adjoining rooms.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 05, 2017, 12:15:58 PM
And when are they going to talk about the room he had on floor 4 ?

The one with the strobe light in front of the window.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Rambone on October 05, 2017, 12:17:48 PM
Hating Glocks is like hating sunshine, rainbows, puppy dogs, and ice cream.  Incomprehensible.

I don't step out of my front door without a Glock 19.  Other than my cock, it's my favorite tool.  I spend about the same amount of time fondling each of them

Love my cock and Glock 43 and 19 as well. Recently bought a M&P Shield 9mm to keep in my truck since it’s cheaper just in case it gets stolen.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 05, 2017, 12:21:49 PM
Not a motive...but still


The night before the shooting, Mr. Paddock made two complaints to the hotel about noise coming from his downstairs neighbors: Albert Garzon, a restaurant owner visiting from San Diego, and his wife and friends. Mr. Garzon, who was staying in 31-135, directly beneath Mr. Paddock, said security guards knocked on his door around 1:30 a.m. on Sunday and asked him to turn down his music, country songs. When he asked where the complaint was coming from, pointing out that the nearest rooms on either side were far away, the security guard said, “It’s the guest above you.”

They turned the music down, but had another visit from different security guards half an hour later. The man had called to complain again. Mr. Garzon turned the music off. It wasn’t until the early hours of Monday that Mr. Garzon realized Mr. Paddock had been the complainer.
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/us/stephen-paddock-gambling.html


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 12:23:26 PM
And when are they going to talk about the room he had on floor 4 ?

The one with the strobe light in front of the window.

 ;D

How about you share with us what you know about Australia...

And I don't mean kangaroo's and crocodile dundee.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 05, 2017, 12:25:33 PM
Not a motive...but still


The night before the shooting, Mr. Paddock made two complaints to the hotel about noise coming from his downstairs neighbors: Albert Garzon, a restaurant owner visiting from San Diego, and his wife and friends. Mr. Garzon, who was staying in 31-135, directly beneath Mr. Paddock, said security guards knocked on his door around 1:30 a.m. on Sunday and asked him to turn down his music, country songs. When he asked where the complaint was coming from, pointing out that the nearest rooms on either side were far away, the security guard said, “It’s the guest above you.”

They turned the music down, but had another visit from different security guards half an hour later. The man had called to complain again. Mr. Garzon turned the music off. It wasn’t until the early hours of Monday that Mr. Garzon realized Mr. Paddock had been the complainer.
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/us/stephen-paddock-gambling.html
He had tried getting a room prior to a Chance the Rapper concert.

he planned to have guns in his room beforehand.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: HTexan on October 05, 2017, 12:28:59 PM
Hating Glocks is like hating sunshine, rainbows, puppy dogs, and ice cream.  Incomprehensible.

I don't step out of my front door without a Glock 19.  Other than my cock, it's my favorite tool.  I spend about the same amount of time fondling each of them
don't get them confused bah ;)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 05, 2017, 12:32:16 PM
He had tried getting a room prior to a Chance the Rapper concert.

It maybe a motive, but he planned to have guns in his room beforehand.


Huh? You telling me you think he shot up those people because the guy below him was playing country music?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 05, 2017, 12:55:53 PM

Huh? You telling me you think he shot up those people because the guy below him was playing country music?
No, I mispoke, it may have been an "incentive". I doubt it was a motive. Because he already had bought the guns and brought the guns and ammo to the hotel room. He had already planned to do the deed.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 05, 2017, 02:14:44 PM
This is pretty funny, Cnn just now Talking about the Bumpstock ban , getting an autotrigger is damn near impossible , but that silencer and tony montana rocket launcher were easy




(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/22264866_10154707270872587_661464594_n.jpg?oh=1d62f2ce8cd2ab5bf5bf68213b54211f&oe=59D92B4B)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 05, 2017, 02:16:27 PM
This is pretty funny, Cnn just now Talking about the Bumpstock ban , getting an autotrigger is damn near impossible , but that silencer and tony montana rocket launcher were easy




(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/22264866_10154707270872587_661464594_n.jpg?oh=1d62f2ce8cd2ab5bf5bf68213b54211f&oe=59D92B4B)

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=637465.0


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 05, 2017, 02:23:59 PM
This is pretty funny, Cnn just now Talking about the Bumpstock ban , getting an autotrigger is damn near impossible , but that silencer and tony montana rocket launcher were easy




(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/22264866_10154707270872587_661464594_n.jpg?oh=1d62f2ce8cd2ab5bf5bf68213b54211f&oe=59D92B4B)

Also the suppressor is of no use in an automatic multi shot scenario. Would get too hot and burn up.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 05, 2017, 02:41:21 PM
Why in Gods name would this guy go to so much trouble to kill 50 people? Seems like he went about it the hard way. All he had to do was rent a large truck and drive it into a large crowd like the one that was shot at and he could have easily taken out 100 people and injured many more. There is no fucking way this guy did this. After all that has come out this whole thing reeks of gun control.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 05, 2017, 02:49:33 PM
Are they going to ban belt loops?  ::) Fuck me people are so ignorant of reality.

Morons , fucking morons , YOU DON'T NEED A Bump Fire stock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD213VW6WjY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZCO-06qRgY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-03y3R9o6hA


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: mazrim on October 05, 2017, 02:52:47 PM
I’m I the only person that hates glocks? M&P over that shit any day of the week.
Don't hate them but don't get the hype with them either. Not a fan of the feel of them in comparison to others.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 05, 2017, 02:54:03 PM
Thank you , i will foward this over to Donny Trump for review


Are they going to ban belt loops?  ::) Fuck me people are so ignorant of reality.

Morons , fucking morons , YOU DON'T NEED A Bump Fire stock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD213VW6WjY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZCO-06qRgY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-03y3R9o6hA


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Dan-O on October 05, 2017, 02:55:48 PM
Any and all of the laws that will come as a result of this tragedy are going to be stupid, useless knee-jerk emotional reactions.  I'm pretty sure murder is already against the law.  But that didn't seem to stop this Paddock guy.  It's all just pointless legislative posturing to try and appease the masses that our leaders and lawmakers are getting things done.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 05, 2017, 03:00:09 PM
Hurry Ban sticks  :o  ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkWuYr0cD4M


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 05, 2017, 03:30:23 PM
Hurry Ban sticks  :o  ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkWuYr0cD4M

So tired of hearing about the Bump stock experts all of a sudden everywhere. Such a waste of time.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 05, 2017, 03:39:36 PM
Not a motive...but still


The night before the shooting, Mr. Paddock made two complaints to the hotel about noise coming from his downstairs neighbors: Albert Garzon, a restaurant owner visiting from San Diego, and his wife and friends. Mr. Garzon, who was staying in 31-135, directly beneath Mr. Paddock, said security guards knocked on his door around 1:30 a.m. on Sunday and asked him to turn down his music, country songs. When he asked where the complaint was coming from, pointing out that the nearest rooms on either side were far away, the security guard said, “It’s the guest above you.”

They turned the music down, but had another visit from different security guards half an hour later. The man had called to complain again. Mr. Garzon turned the music off. It wasn’t until the early hours of Monday that Mr. Garzon realized Mr. Paddock had been the complainer.
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/us/stephen-paddock-gambling.html

That totally contradicts another story about some former Marine that was supposedly right below him and recognized the gunfire was coming from the room directly above him yeah.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: HTexan on October 05, 2017, 03:40:03 PM
bump stick is stupid. You cant fucking aim.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: BayGBM on October 05, 2017, 03:41:12 PM
There is a go fund me page set up for donations to a Victim's fund.

It started out with a $1 million goal, but as it was quickly reached they raised the goal to $2 million.  I just checked and they have raised $9,487,257 and the goal has been raised to $15 million.  So what's the strategy here... just keep raising the goal until the money stops coming in?

Obviously, this was murder most foul, but there is something unseemly about constantly raising your fundraising goal once you meet it.  Doing so is disrespectful to donors and makes them look like suckers--no matter how worthy the cause.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: dj181 on October 05, 2017, 03:43:10 PM
Why in Gods name would this guy go to so much trouble to kill 50 people? Seems like he went about it the hard way. All he had to do was rent a large truck and drive it into a large crowd like the one that was shot at and he could have easily taken out 100 people and injured many more. There is no fucking way this guy did this. After all that has come out this whole thing reeks of gun control.



maybe he was taking 3 grams of deca like Mentzer supppsedly did dim  ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 05, 2017, 03:45:50 PM
There is a go fund me page set up for donations to a Victim's fund.

It started out with a $1 million goal, but as it was quickly reached they raised the goal to $2 million.  I just checked and they have raised $9,487,257 and the goal has been raised to $15 million.  So what's the strategy here... just keep raising the goal until the moneys stops coming in?

Obviously, this was murder most foul, but there is something unseemly about constantly raising your fundraising goal once you meet it.  Doing so is disrespectful to donors and makes them look like suckers--no matter how worthy the cause.

It seems in this country if you're going to die it's best to happen in a large group.  You die in a single shooting and it's good luck footing that funeral bill, but you die in a group and it's fully paid for and you get extra cash.  50 people died right?  What's the $20 million for?  And that's just one page raising money.  Are they giving each family $400K each?  I hear it's for the injured, but don't they fucking have insurance?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 05, 2017, 03:48:42 PM

maybe he was taking 3 grams of deca like Mentzer supppsedly did dim  ::)

Maybe


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 05, 2017, 03:50:16 PM
There is a go fund me page set up for donations to a Victim's fund.

It started out with a $1 million goal, but as it was quickly reached they raised the goal to $2 million.  I just checked and they have raised $9,487,257 and the goal has been raised to $15 million.  So what's the strategy here... just keep raising the goal until the moneys stops coming in?

Obviously, this was murder most foul, but there is something unseemly about constantly raising your fundraising goal once you meet it.  Doing so is disrespectful to donors and makes them look like suckers--no matter how worthy the cause.

Not sure how these things work. I wonder who started the page and where does the money go while being donated?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: BayGBM on October 05, 2017, 03:59:15 PM
It seems in this country if you're going to die it's best to happen in a large group.  You die in a single shooting and it's good luck footing that funeral bill, but you die in a group and it's fully paid for and you get extra cash.  50 people died right?  What's the $20 million for?  And that's just one page raising money.  Are they giving each family $400K each?  I hear it's for the injured, but don't they fucking have insurance?

Cynical?  No.  I totally agree with you.  So if your loved one was killed, the family will get X dollars? If you were wounded, you and you family get Y dollars?  Is that it?  And who will dole out and police the administration of these funds?  The page was set up by "Steve Sisolak, Clark County Commission Chair from Las Vegas" but as with all gofundme pages, there is no check or balance on the disbursement of the cash.  The person who collects the money can do anything they want with it and there is no one to ask any questions, follow up, or audit the monies.  Gofundme warns you about this if you read their fine print (which almost no one does--but I read it).

If you want to skim some off the top there is nothing to stop you.  Given what I know of human nature, I would never donate to any fund that is so open ended with no potential for audits, checks, or balances.  Especially one that keeps raising the fundraising goal up, up, and up.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 05, 2017, 04:02:21 PM
It is funny how several pages back myself as one of a few called bullshit on what was being reported by all media, the feds the local cops etc and was called out on it yet now this is exactly what is going on

Now people can understand why I dont take any of this bullshit at face value


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: tommywishbone on October 05, 2017, 04:14:53 PM
So tired of hearing about the Bump stock experts all of a sudden everywhere. Such a waste of time.

Cute. That little dog wanted that stick.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 05, 2017, 04:19:06 PM
Cynical?  No.  I totally agree with you.  So if your loved one was killed, the family will get X dollars? If you were wounded, you and you family get Y dollars?  Is that it?  And who will dole out and police the administration of these funds?  The page was set up by "Steve Sisolak, Clark County Commission Chair from Las Vegas" but as with all gofundme pages, there is no check or balance on the disbursement of the cash.  The person who collects the money can do anything they want with it and there is no one to ask any questions, follow up, or audit the monies.  Gofundme warns you about this if you read their fine print (which almost no one does--but I read it).

If you want to skim some off the top there is nothing to stop you.  Given what I know of human nature, I would never donate to any fund that is so open ended with no potential for audits, checks, or balances.  Especially one that keeps raising the fundraising goal up, up, and up.

Basically you need to be ready to put up a page as soon as a tragedy hits. It’s not even skimming off the top of you call it “administrative fees”


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: BayGBM on October 05, 2017, 05:22:49 PM
Basically you need to be ready to put up a page as soon as a tragedy hits. It’s not even skimming off the top of you call it “administrative fees”

That sounds curiously like the fund set up for Dallas McCarver's passing; you will recall that Singerman set up the Foundation and website asking for money mere hours after learning of the death.  I wonder how much they raised...? I can't be bothered to look.

And don't forget the "gofundme" site gets to take its cut of the money raised.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 05:26:40 PM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/3ffca63697217133b5258ba7d91bb14a/tumblr_oxdl6a0ZjE1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 05, 2017, 05:41:57 PM
Why in Gods name would this guy go to so much trouble to kill 50 people? Seems like he went about it the hard way. All he had to do was rent a large truck and drive it into a large crowd like the one that was shot at and he could have easily taken out 100 people and injured many more. There is no fucking way this guy did this. After all that has come out this whole thing reeks of gun control.

No one knows why.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: tommywishbone on October 05, 2017, 05:48:23 PM
No one knows why.

Thank you sir. A very brief moment of clarity in a sea of nincompoopery. 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Voice of Doom on October 05, 2017, 05:48:26 PM
I think it was an arms deal gone bad.  Nobody has 40 guns and thousands of rounds of ammo with them in one place unless they're doing business.  He was an informant for the FBI (hence the cameras in the room) maybe by choice or maybe by force.  The deal either was known to be bad from the buyers going in or went bad in the process.  The buyers (maybe some Muslim group) decided to turn the tables, killed the guy, smashed a few windows and opened fire to create a diversion/settle score/make political statement.  The FBI had prior knowledge.  The 60 minute time frame between end of shooting and cops coming in was for the FBI to grab the memory sticks from the cameras, arrange the body to look like a suicide, clean up their traces and hastily arrange "evidence".

This is why he had more guns and ammo in his trunk.  Probably to sweeten the deal if needed.  The shooting was clearing a military grade automatic regardless of what was "found" in the room".  The girl who warned people was a hooker that had been staying with him and either got out early or was told to leave.   The Philippines has been a center for American intelligence agencies to move drugs and guns for decades. The GF in the Philippines is that local contact.

That's where he made his real money, why he was always on the move and why he had two small planes.  Also explains why they can't pin a political/religious motive on this and "magically" none of the cameras in the room recorded the incident.  ::)

Just my $0.02


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 05, 2017, 05:55:37 PM
It is funny how several pages back myself as one of a few called bullshit on what was being reported by all media, the feds the local cops etc and was called out on it yet now this is exactly what is going on

Now people can understand why I dont take any of this bullshit at face value

guy i did too


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 06:04:52 PM
Why in Gods name would this guy go to so much trouble to kill 50 people? Seems like he went about it the hard way. All he had to do was rent a large truck and drive it into a large crowd like the one that was shot at and he could have easily taken out 100 people and injured many more. There is no fucking way this guy did this. After all that has come out this whole thing reeks of gun control.


He was a psychopath, his brother is a sociopath. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: delta9mda on October 05, 2017, 06:06:11 PM
Any and all of the laws that will come as a result of this tragedy are going to be stupid, useless knee-jerk emotional reactions.  I'm pretty sure murder is already against the law.  But that didn't seem to stop this Paddock guy.  It's all just pointless legislative posturing to try and appease the masses that our leaders and lawmakers are getting things done.
you can't legislate morality


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 06:07:51 PM
I think it was an arms deal gone bad.  Nobody has 40 guns and thousands of rounds of ammo with them in one place unless they're doing business.  He was an informant for the FBI (hence the cameras in the room) maybe by choice or maybe by force.  The deal either was known to be bad from the buyers going in or went bad in the process.  The buyers (maybe some Muslim group) decided to turn the tables, killed the guy, smashed a few windows and opened fire to create a diversion/settle score/make political statement.  The FBI had prior knowledge.  The 60 minute time frame between end of shooting and cops coming in was for the FBI to grab the memory sticks from the cameras, arrange the body to look like a suicide, clean up their traces and hastily arrange "evidence".

This is why he had more guns and ammo in his trunk.  Probably to sweeten the deal if needed.  The shooting was clearing a military grade automatic regardless of what was "found" in the room".  The girl who warned people was a hooker that had been staying with him and either got out early or was told to leave.   The Philippines has been a center for American intelligence agencies to move drugs and guns for decades. The GF in the Philippines is that local contact.

That's where he made his real money, why he was always on the move and why he had two small planes.  Also explains why they can't pin a political/religious motive on this and "magically" none of the cameras in the room recorded the incident.  ::)

Just my $0.02

Just stop...that theory is absolutely ridiculous and doesn't explain shootings at other casinos. He also didn't have 40 guns in his room.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 05, 2017, 06:19:44 PM
No one knows why.


I hear you but not good enough. By that reasoning anyone on the planet could do this and that sir is what the good old Government wants us to believe.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 05, 2017, 06:31:05 PM
I think it was an arms deal gone bad.  Nobody has 40 guns and thousands of rounds of ammo with them in one place unless they're doing business.  He was an informant for the FBI (hence the cameras in the room) maybe by choice or maybe by force.  The deal either was known to be bad from the buyers going in or went bad in the process.  The buyers (maybe some Muslim group) decided to turn the tables, killed the guy, smashed a few windows and opened fire to create a diversion/settle score/make political statement.  The FBI had prior knowledge.  The 60 minute time frame between end of shooting and cops coming in was for the FBI to grab the memory sticks from the cameras, arrange the body to look like a suicide, clean up their traces and hastily arrange "evidence".

This is why he had more guns and ammo in his trunk.  Probably to sweeten the deal if needed.  The shooting was clearing a military grade automatic regardless of what was "found" in the room".  The girl who warned people was a hooker that had been staying with him and either got out early or was told to leave.   The Philippines has been a center for American intelligence agencies to move drugs and guns for decades. The GF in the Philippines is that local contact.

That's where he made his real money, why he was always on the move and why he had two small planes.  Also explains why they can't pin a political/religious motive on this and "magically" none of the cameras in the room recorded the incident.  ::)

Just my $0.02

Great post.

Also remember the Israeli cache of weapons that went missing from military a few months back

They match the weapons found on screen exactly


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 06:45:06 PM
It is funny how several pages back myself as one of a few called bullshit on what was being reported by all media, the feds the local cops etc and was called out on it yet now this is exactly what is going on

Now people can understand why I dont take any of this bullshit at face value

anytime there is a large incident such as this, it's ok to take the initial info with a grain of salt. Not because it's bullshit , it is because the first days or weeks officials are scrambling to piece together what happened.  They are torn between waiting until the investigation is complete and every I is dotted and every t is crossed, with getting the info out to the public, The key is not creating some stupid theory of conspiracy because of it   


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: chaos on October 05, 2017, 06:48:39 PM
Pretty amazing for a 64 yo man


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 06:50:50 PM
Pretty amazing for a 64 yo man

64 Is the new 54


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 06:52:30 PM
Great post.

Also remember the Israeli cache of weapons that went missing from military a few months back

They match the weapons found on screen exactly

 ;D  you're terrible.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 05, 2017, 06:53:21 PM
Pretty amazing for a 64 yo man

Saw video of him from 2011 walking in a casino where he took a fall. He's no speedy Gonzales.  ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 06:55:26 PM
Just stop...that theory is absolutely ridiculous and doesn't explain shootings at other casinos. He also didn't have 40 guns in his room.

thanks


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 06:56:31 PM
Great post.

Also remember the Israeli cache of weapons that went missing from military a few months back

They match the weapons found on screen exactly

You probably just need to go away quietly


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: tommywishbone on October 05, 2017, 06:57:04 PM
LOL!  Saw that too. Boy sure wasn't planning a career with Cirque du Soleil.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 06:58:50 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGJAIEdJtFM

They left out steve's sandwich.




Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 07:06:28 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGJAIEdJtFM

They left out steve's sandwich.




If you're going to condemn Steve for being a high stakes gambler..... no...we are just a tad upset with him killing 58 people


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: tommywishbone on October 05, 2017, 07:07:34 PM
Let's not forget how badly this murderer actually sucked.

He had 20,000 people fenced in, shoulder-to-shoulder, many of them had been drinking for hours, none of them were shooting back... and the lame worthless fuck only managed to kill 58. He sucked. Don't pretend he was superman. He was a demented insane prick.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 07:13:29 PM
Let's not forget how badly this murderer actually sucked.

He had 20,000 people fenced in, shoulder-to-shoulder, many of them had been drinking for hours, none of them were shooting back... and the lame worthless fuck only managed to kill 58. He sucked. Don't pretend he was superman. He was a demented insane prick.

I'm not ready to discount 58 dead and 500+ as a failed attempt. The suicide bomber who takes out 3.. yeah.. but the leading mass murder with a gun.. sucked? Not sure I can get on board with that


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 05, 2017, 07:13:57 PM
Pretty amazing for a 64 yo man

Yes amazing that he hit over 500 people. Lets celebrate


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 05, 2017, 07:15:57 PM
Let's not forget how badly this murderer actually sucked.

He had 20,000 people fenced in, shoulder-to-shoulder, many of them had been drinking for hours, none of them were shooting back... and the lame worthless fuck only managed to kill 58. He sucked. Don't pretend he was superman. He was a demented insane prick.

His kind is known to do this. Just another day at the office.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 07:17:02 PM
Yes amazing that he hit over 500 people. Lets celebrate

I don't think he hit 500, a stampede is sometimes worse than the threat itself


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 05, 2017, 07:24:08 PM
I too heave hears there are quite a few of NON shooting victims...
Still..


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 07:25:34 PM
Yes amazing that he hit over 500 people. Lets celebrate

That wasn't what he was implying you spergburger.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 05, 2017, 07:45:34 PM
;D  you're terrible.

Thank you dear bro


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: tommywishbone on October 05, 2017, 07:49:51 PM
I too heave hears there are quite a few of NON shooting victims...
Still..

I beg your pardon?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 05, 2017, 07:53:22 PM
I beg your pardon?
Don't worry Tommy, this is what happens when they approve too many new accounts.





Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 05, 2017, 08:03:31 PM
I'm not ready to discount 58 dead and 500+ as a failed attempt. The suicide bomber who takes out 3.. yeah.. but the leading mass murder with a gun.. sucked? Not sure I can get on board with that

Sounds like you really admire this phaggott.  I'm not surprised.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 05, 2017, 08:23:02 PM
Sounds like you really admire this phaggott.  I'm not surprised.

I see his point.

Some nasty mudskin gets a handful of confirmed kills with a gun, truck, bomb etc.


A motivated white man is a deadly, deadly thing. We are the best at everything, evil acts included.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 05, 2017, 08:51:39 PM
Not sure if this was posted but a 4chan poster predicted this or had inside information.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 05, 2017, 09:03:34 PM
I see his point.

Some nasty mudskin gets a handful of confirmed kills with a gun, truck, bomb etc.


A motivated white man is a deadly, deadly thing. We are the best at everything, evil acts included.


Now if he only had targetted detroit instead of a country music festival.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 09:04:14 PM
Let's not forget how badly this murderer actually sucked.

He had 20,000 people fenced in, shoulder-to-shoulder, many of them had been drinking for hours, none of them were shooting back... and the lame worthless fuck only managed to kill 58. He sucked. Don't pretend he was superman. He was a demented insane prick.

ray for war.. this is the original post. Mine was.. 58 were killed, 500 plus injured, not something to laugh about. What issue do you have specifically with my response? side note any one labeled PRAY FOR WAR hasn't been in one, nor will join one anytime soon


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 05, 2017, 09:24:08 PM
ray for war.. this is the original post. Mine was.. 58 were killed, 500 plus injured, not something to laugh about. What issue do you have specifically with my response? side note any one labeled PRAY FOR WAR hasn't been in one, nor will join one anytime soon

I misread your post because I was distracted.  Upon closer inspection I don't find fault with what you said.  Apologies.  You are still a phaggot though.

Also............War is coming and I intend to fight it.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 05, 2017, 09:26:59 PM
Not sure if this was posted but a 4chan poster predicted this or had inside information.


The posters name is John. This may be far out but what if he is that famous time traveler John Titor? Which would explain how he knows all these things.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 05, 2017, 09:28:04 PM
Casinos claim to have hundreds of thousands of cameras , yet not a single frame of his 3 days there have been released.
I thought they already closed this case of a lone wolf, no international ties, no political or religious connects.

So what's the hold up? There should be hours and hours of his entire stay at the casino.

Can we get one at least of him picking a booger in the elevator?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 05, 2017, 09:34:52 PM
Now if he only had targetted detroit instead of a country music festival.

Wish he would have gone to Mecca.

Even the score a bit.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 09:35:53 PM
I misread your post because I was distracted.  Upon closer inspection I don't find fault with what you said.  Apologies.  You are still a phaggot though.

Also............War is coming and I intend to fight it.

Fair enough... I'll probably be next to you


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 10:22:28 PM
I see his point.

Some nasty mudskin gets a handful of confirmed kills with a gun, truck, bomb etc.


A motivated white man is a deadly, deadly thing. We are the best at everything, evil acts included.

Hate to say it but you're right.

Remember this?

Hour long gunfight with 200 LAPD

(https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/criminalminds/images/0/06/Phillips_and_Matasareanu.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130915150230)


Phillips used the following firearms in order:

A Norinco Type 56 Sporter semiautomatic rifle converted to fire automatically with 75- to 100-round drum magazines and 30-round box magazines

A Heckler & Koch M91A3 semiautomatic rifle

A Norinco Type 56 S1 semiautomatic rifle converted to fire automatically with 75- to 100-round drum magazines and 30-round box magazines

A 9mm Beretta Model 92FS semiautomatic pistol


Mătăsăreanu used the following firearms in order:

A Norinco Type 56 Sporter semiautomatic rifle converted to fire automatically with 75- to 100-round drum magazines and 30-round box magazines
(http://img1.gtimg.com/news/pics/hv1/192/245/2090/135964917.jpg)

A Bushmaster XM15 E2S "Dissipator" semiautomatic rifle heavily modified into a selective-fire weapon firing from two 100-round "Beta Magazines"
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/criminalminds/images/d/d0/Bushmaster_XM15.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130729003615)

Phillips armor

The suit of Aramid body armor worn by Phillips during the shootout.
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/criminalminds/images/0/01/Phillips_armor.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130729003413)

Phillips and Mătăsăreanu both wore aramid-made body armor to withstand police gunfire. Phillips wore a 40-pound homemade suit of body armor consisting of a Type III-A bulletproof vest and groin guard; a load-bearing vest (to store box magazines, especially those for the Heckler & Koch M91A3 rifle); multiple military-grade canteen pouches for ammunition storage; and pieces of body armor taken from spare vests, which protected his groin, shins, thighs, and forearms.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFSKLkJVIAIKjYP.png)

Mătăsăreanu simply wore a Type II-A bulletproof vest, but also included a metal trauma plate. Their armor was powerful enough to prevent penetration by shots fired from handguns and even shotguns.
(http://i.imgur.com/QlzkZ36.png)


(https://skeptic78240.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/untitled-81.jpg?w=652)

(http://www.smartage.pl/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/48.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WhY-Ob2KVYU/V8bxPUduV2I/AAAAAAAAWQ8/Nw9KiesJjq4V_NBTNycExKbsg-mxVPu9QCLcB/s640/2016-08-31%2B07_25_18-Shoot%2Bme%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bhead%2521%2B_%2BFoto.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/44/8b/c9/448bc91ba2f6b9a8028bcc7181ea4ef4--bank-job-bank-robber.jpg)

(https://gilmiller.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/mannequins.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr4qmT8LOOo

They're now in Valhalla.  8)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 05, 2017, 10:37:47 PM
Now if he only had targetted detroit instead of a country music festival.

Its obvious you're a gimmick. I don't think you need to worry about what goes on in Detroit, since youre in Sweden.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 05, 2017, 11:07:35 PM
Not sure if this was posted but a 4chan poster predicted this or had inside information.


HOLY SHIT!!!!

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/fa05e9a0c89d71c260b7849a1b2f3784/tumblr_oxe0qt23XA1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)

Larry Eugene Phillips, Jr. and Decebal Stefan Emilian "Emil" Mătăsăreanu[1], a.k.a. "The High Incident Bandits", were a pair of bank robbers famous for perpetrating a deadly shootout with Los Angeles officers after robbing a bank in 1997.


What have I done?!!!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 05, 2017, 11:23:12 PM
HOLY SHIT!!!!

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/fa05e9a0c89d71c260b7849a1b2f3784/tumblr_oxe0qt23XA1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)

Larry Eugene Phillips, Jr. and Decebal Stefan Emilian "Emil" Mătăsăreanu[1], a.k.a. "The High Incident Bandits", were a pair of bank robbers famous for perpetrating a deadly shootout with Los Angeles officers after robbing a bank in 1997.


What have I done?!!!


YOU ARE A COOL DUDE!!!

THIS MAKES SENSE!!!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 12:03:27 AM
This shooting reminded me of the 97 bank robbery because they used automatic weapons. Can't believe they're called the high incident bandits, I never heard them referred to as that.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 06, 2017, 12:08:36 AM
So what's the latest?   False Flag?  Multiple shooters?  LGBT connections?   Cliff Notes?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 06, 2017, 12:10:38 AM
Operation Northwoods

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Operation Northwoods
was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government, that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The plans detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 12:10:44 AM
HOLY SHIT!!!!

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/fa05e9a0c89d71c260b7849a1b2f3784/tumblr_oxe0qt23XA1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)

Larry Eugene Phillips, Jr. and Decebal Stefan Emilian "Emil" Mătăsăreanu[1], a.k.a. "The High Incident Bandits", were a pair of bank robbers famous for perpetrating a deadly shootout with Los Angeles officers after robbing a bank in 1997.


What have I done?!!!

why does the government have to gun down hundreds of people to put extra metal detectors on Casinos??

Casinos can put extra metal detectors up any time they like, they don't need permission from anyone, they are a business, if people don't want to walk through a metal detector they don't go in, I fail to see the point?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 12:25:59 AM
So what's the latest?   False Flag?  Multiple shooters?  LGBT connections?   Cliff Notes?

I don't know what to think anymore...that message from "john" has been floating around /pol/ but I didn't take it too seriously. It's starting to make more sense especially considering there were shots fired at multiple casino's.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 06, 2017, 12:47:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gDTixalK5Q


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 01:07:02 AM
why does the government have to gun down hundreds of people to put extra metal detectors on Casinos??

Casinos can put extra metal detectors up any time they like, they don't need permission from anyone, they are a business, if people don't want to walk through a metal detector they don't go in, I fail to see the point?

casinos can

government wants


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 01:13:54 AM
casinos can

government wants

government can as well, they just pass a bill to have extra security regulations.

But they don't need to kill people to do it.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 06, 2017, 01:13:58 AM
The posters name is John. This may be far out but what if he is that famous time traveler John Titor? Which would explain how he knows all these things.


(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/76446520/mah-ninja.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 01:15:43 AM
I should add to that there's more to it than just metal detectors. We're heading down a bad road, things are only going to get worse  from here.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 01:26:25 AM
How about America becoming a police state? 

they can do that without killing people as well.

How many current countries have true "police states"?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 01:28:02 AM
government can as well, they just pass a bill to have extra security regulations.

But they don't need to kill people to do it.

easier to pass a bill when the populace is scared

how are those muzzies working out for you


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 01:39:57 AM
they can do that without killing people as well.

How many current countries have true "police states"?

To be honest I think Top Poodle can give you a better answer. I find him to be much more knowledgeable in these matters.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 01:40:58 AM
it's like all the syrian false flags guys, cia operates in other countries this way, what's so astounding to imagine they can do the same here?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 01:43:14 AM
To be honest I think Top Poodle can give you a better answer. I find him to be much more knowledgeable in these matters.

surely you mean Pot Troodle?

I should add to that there's more to it than just metal detectors. We're heading down a bad road, things are only going to get worse  from here.

no shit mate, this is the end of civilization... gonna be a fun ride ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 02:42:59 AM
easier to pass a bill when the populace is scared

how are those muzzies working out for you

the populace has no say in what bills are passed.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 02:54:03 AM
the populace has no say in what bills are passed.

and public opinion is just a myth?

okay.jpg

why are gays accepted in society then, now, when they weren't a hundred years ago?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 02:59:28 AM
and public opinion is just a myth?

okay.jpg

why are gays accepted in society then, now, when they weren't a hundred years ago?

its because of the gay agenda perpetrated by the government that you keep banging on about.

You want to argue against that?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 06, 2017, 03:11:30 AM
I don't know, but it sure is quite the coincidence. I don't think we will be given the full story anytime soon, we might not ever get it. I think they're lying about the camera footage but to be honest I don't think it's a good idea to release it anyways.

You still got the last record mass killing at pulse from a year ago which still hasn't gone to trail and I think this one will have even less answers, at least not the ones people are looking for.

Steve is a casino comp grifter and a pure psychopath.

He rose to the top making millions of dollars but he still hated people, even his own brothers. He used his money to control people and he looked down on them.

At the same time he's hating everyone, he wants everyone to know him and analyze him, he wants to be known by everyone and looked at with awe and fear. That's why no note, no manifesto and no visable motive. That IS his motive.

He wants everybody guessing, he wants everybody to think he's a mysterious and interesting figure. He wants to punish everybody because he looks down on everyone as beneath him. He wants all the people arguing and projecting their own politics and motivations on to him.

He doesn't even care, he just wants people hating each other and fighting about it because that just further proves how above everyone he is.

He is the highest level of asshole.

yet he still made his brothers and mother millionaires that allowed them to retire.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 03:13:22 AM
yet he still made his brothers and mother millionaires that allowed them to retire.

maybe he was a dick to everyone except family?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 03:27:38 AM
its because of the gay agenda perpetrated by the government that you keep banging on about.

You want to argue against that?

OH SNAP YOU SAID THE GOVERNMENT MAKES GAY AGENDAS


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 03:29:24 AM
OH SNAP YOU SAID THE GOVERNMENT MAKES GAY AGENDAS

NO, ITS YOU THAT BELEIVES THAT..... ;)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 03:36:45 AM
NO, ITS YOU THAT BELEIVES THAT..... ;)

lol false


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 06, 2017, 04:26:32 AM
maybe he was a dick to everyone except family?

That would be a first


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2017, 05:53:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBlrcUsMhps


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2017, 05:54:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBlrcUsMhps

Face palm


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2017, 05:55:13 AM
government can as well, they just pass a bill to have extra security regulations.

But they don't need to kill people to do it.


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Chess_piece_-_White_pawn.JPG)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2017, 05:57:57 AM
You guys over clouded there in the east coast?  Little Rain? or just just morning showers ?

Face palm


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SuperTed on October 06, 2017, 06:28:02 AM
Why in Gods name would this guy go to so much trouble to kill 50 people? Seems like he went about it the hard way. All he had to do was rent a large truck and drive it into a large crowd like the one that was shot at and he could have easily taken out 100 people and injured many more. There is no fucking way this guy did this. After all that has come out this whole thing reeks of gun control.

How much trouble was it for him? All he needed was guns and a hotel room. The majority of truck attacks in Europe have only killed a handful of people apart from the one in Nice. Besides, shooting things is more enjoyable then running things over.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 06, 2017, 06:56:09 AM
I think it was an arms deal gone bad.  Nobody has 40 guns and thousands of rounds of ammo with them in one place unless they're doing business.  He was an informant for the FBI (hence the cameras in the room) maybe by choice or maybe by force.  The deal either was known to be bad from the buyers going in or went bad in the process.  The buyers (maybe some Muslim group) decided to turn the tables, killed the guy, smashed a few windows and opened fire to create a diversion/settle score/make political statement.  The FBI had prior knowledge.  The 60 minute time frame between end of shooting and cops coming in was for the FBI to grab the memory sticks from the cameras, arrange the body to look like a suicide, clean up their traces and hastily arrange "evidence".

This is why he had more guns and ammo in his trunk.  Probably to sweeten the deal if needed.  The shooting was clearing a military grade automatic regardless of what was "found" in the room".  The girl who warned people was a hooker that had been staying with him and either got out early or was told to leave.   The Philippines has been a center for American intelligence agencies to move drugs and guns for decades. The GF in the Philippines is that local contact.

That's where he made his real money, why he was always on the move and why he had two small planes.  Also explains why they can't pin a political/religious motive on this and "magically" none of the cameras in the room recorded the incident.  ::)

Just my $0.02
He didn't have 40 guns in one place. 23 guns at the HOTEL. 19 guns removed from his HOME for a total of 42 guns.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 06, 2017, 06:58:55 AM
How much trouble was it for him? All he needed was guns and a hotel room. The majority of truck attacks in Europe have only killed a handful of people apart from the one in Nice. Besides, shooting things is more enjoyable then running things over.


Moreover, he was retired so he had plenty of time to do all this.

Conspiracy theorists want so desperately to turn this into a tale of international intrigue that they don’t want to recognize that this was a very simple operation easily doable by one person.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 07:22:53 AM
yet he still made his brothers and mother millionaires that allowed them to retire.

Can't fault the brilliant logic of a degenerate junky. Unfortunately for your father it's the other way around, still caring for his mentally ill son. You should be euthanized.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 08:00:47 AM
yet he still made his brothers and mother millionaires that allowed them to retire.

He gave money to ONE brother, Eric and his mother who is 90 had little contact with him.  He doesn't talk to his other brothers at all. He didn't give them millions, you're talking about something you obviously know nothing about as usual.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 06, 2017, 09:47:07 AM
Major hotels will eventually get security like current airports have. And I fully agree with it. I don't necessarily blame The Mandalay Bay Hotel for it's complacency and security protocols, but I do believe that there now needs to be a change in major hotels, worldwide.

From now on, just like airports, you need to go through a metal detector and an X-Ray machine to check in.

Under these new security measures, there is no way a man would be able to smuggle 23 guns into a hotel.

It takes people dying for shit to change.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2017, 09:52:39 AM
Major hotels will eventually get security like current airports have. And I fully agree with it. I don't necessarily blame The Mandalay Bay Hotel for it's complacency and security protocols, but I do believe that there now needs to be a change in major hotels, worldwide.

From now on, just like airports, you need to go through a metal detector and an X-Ray machine to check in.

Under these new security measures, there is no way a man would be able to smuggle 23 guns into a hotel.

It takes people dying for shit to change.

No one will be able to afford that or want to deal w the hastle


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 06, 2017, 09:59:22 AM
No one will be able to afford that or want to deal w the hastle
Afford what? This is the new cost of doing business. If privacy goes out of the window for the airports, it now needs to do the same for hotels.

Hotels should not harbor terrorists.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2017, 10:02:45 AM
oh brother , metal detectors in Vegas casinos  ::)


why not just put a check point on the I-15 , will probably be faster and cheaper, and just as stupid of an idea


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: loco on October 06, 2017, 10:04:12 AM
Major hotels will eventually get security like current airports have. And I fully agree with it.

Giving up more freedom in exchange for a false sense of "safety."


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 06, 2017, 10:06:12 AM
oh brother , medal detectors in Vegas casinos  ::)


why not just put a check point on the I-15 , will probably be faster and cheaper and just as stupid of an idea
Put check points everywhere! Law abiding citizens have no worries. Only criminals worry about shit like this.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 06, 2017, 10:08:01 AM
Giving up more freedom in exchange for a false sense of "safety."
This particular incident could have been avoided.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2017, 10:09:50 AM
Afford what? This is the new cost of doing business. If privacy goes out of the window for the airports, it now needs to do the same for hotels.

Hotels should not harbor terrorists.

Have you stayed at a hotel in recent years? 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 06, 2017, 10:13:13 AM
Have you stayed at a hotel in recent years? 
What does that mean? Hotels have 10% of the traffic, of major airports. Would you sacrifice an extra 20 minutes, to save lives?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2017, 10:15:24 AM
What does that mean? Hotels have 10% of the traffic, of major airports. Would you sacrifice an extra 20 minutes, to save lives?

So does this apply to your run of the mill Marriot Residence Inn in podunk Florida or just Hotels you think pose a threat? 

The local Days Inn can't afford this .


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 06, 2017, 10:23:46 AM
So does this apply to your run of the mill Marriot Residence Inn in podunk Florida or just Hotels you think pose a threat? 

The local Days Inn can't afford this .
It applies to all major hotels, in all major cities.

Terrorists don't make national news in "podunk anywhere".



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: WalterWhite on October 06, 2017, 10:34:04 AM

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Chess_piece_-_White_pawn.JPG)

Exactly.


-john


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2017, 10:44:31 AM
Not necessarily. After mass shootings, when family members are interviewed, they have often (not always) give some indication about the shooters life--depressed, past suicidal attempts, etc. Something that may give some indication about a motive or not. This guy seemed totally oblivious. I wonder how often he talked with his brother.



I wondered this too about his brother. It sometimes appears that folks including family and friends will say anything that provides them 15 minutes of fame.

It is natural for folks to want to make sense of horrible acts of violence. Chances are, we'll never really know what caused Stephen Paddock to break. We're still guessing what made other serial killers tick, folks like Ted Bundy and Timothy McVeigh.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: dj181 on October 06, 2017, 10:46:54 AM
It is funny how several pages back myself as one of a few called bullshit on what was being reported by all media, the feds the local cops etc and was called out on it yet now this is exactly what is going on

Now people can understand why I dont take any of this bullshit at face value

sure thing BoooooooZooooooo

theres you 😂


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eric2 on October 06, 2017, 10:47:02 AM
Major hotels will eventually get security like current airports have. And I fully agree with it. I don't necessarily blame The Mandalay Bay Hotel for it's complacency and security protocols, but I do believe that there now needs to be a change in major hotels, worldwide.

From now on, just like airports, you need to go through a metal detector and an X-Ray machine to check in.

Under these new security measures, there is no way a man would be able to smuggle 23 guns into a hotel.

It takes people dying for shit to change.



This would kill Vegas. Each of the main casinos thrive on the many tens of thousands of people whom walk in and out of the casinos each day. Three to four main entrances , security on these at airport levels would turn away most if not all but the ones needing to get to their rooms.  Plus can you imagine screening tens of thousands of drunk people with booze in their hands?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 06, 2017, 11:04:21 AM
The reason he shot all those people rhymes with bright.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 06, 2017, 11:41:40 AM

Conspiracy theorists want so desperately to turn this into a tale of international intrigue that they don’t want to recognize that this was a very simple operation easily doable by one person.
Where's your p r o o f?
Prove he acted alone and had no aid in some way shape or form.
Go ahead...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 12:52:31 PM
A reporter starts asking the Sheriff about the car, someone coughs, then someone says "Don't go there"  to the Sheriff. Look at the FBI agent's face as he thinks the Sheriff is about to answer the question. But then the Sheriff goes on to just give a non-answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTTr9P4MG8w


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 12:56:32 PM
The reason he shot all those people rhymes with bright.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/48bc800fb82617117e91ca85347d10cc/tumblr_oxf26zNeSm1wd3uyro1_540.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: titusisback on October 06, 2017, 01:12:33 PM
From now on, just like airports, you need to go through a metal detector and an X-Ray machine to check in.

Not sure if that's going to happen (too much inconvenience for guests) and if it does, is it really going to make any difference. You could do the same thing from any high rise condo with a view to a concert venue. Just get a room from Airbnb. Check Grant park in Chicago. A ton of condos face that way and the killer considered targeting Lollapalooza.

I think the biggest problem with shit like this is that it inspires sick minds to do similar stuff and try to "break the record". Internet has made it possible for anyone to become famous overnight. In this case for wrong reasons obviously. But if you're mentally ill or have just decided that your life is boring and there's no reason to live and you're a psycho, then we will be seeing this more and more in the future. Nothing's really changed from 50 years ago except instant fame. High rises have been there, automatic weapons have been there etc. I bet right now there are many many sick people there thinking how this number of 58 people dead can be beat. More and more attacks will target large events where there's a sea of people unable to look for cover quickly.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 06, 2017, 01:24:29 PM
I wish people would stop believing that we can legislate our way to safety.

"If we only give up this right then we will be safe, if we only give up this liberty then will be safe, if we only let the government monitor everything we do then then we will be safe"

On and on and on until you are a slave.  FUCK. THAT. SHIT.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 01:25:38 PM
I wish people would stop believing that we can legislate our way to safety.

"If we only give up this right then we will be safe, if we only give up this liberty then will be safe, if we only let the government monitor everything we do then then we will be safe"

On and on and on until you are a slave.  FUCK. THAT. SHIT.

why would the government want to make everyone slaves, you have to feed and look after slaves...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 06, 2017, 01:34:24 PM
why would the government want to make everyone slaves, you have to feed and look after slaves...

To guarantee and increase their own power and wealth is one reason.  Also because they are controlled by satan.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 01:52:34 PM
To guarantee and increase their own power and wealth is one reason.  Also because they are controlled by satan.

Power and wealth?

to do what with?




Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 02:06:59 PM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/28c5aaabab161968b1ee250c230fdc07/tumblr_oxf6kdDigO1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/2accd35a1247d103f5ed9611e7e125c4/tumblr_oxf6jl3J9u1wd3uyro1_540.png)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 06, 2017, 02:52:58 PM
Rug roh.   :o


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 06, 2017, 03:21:07 PM
Power and wealth?

to do what with?




I'm curious, are you doubting that people go to Washington in order to gain money and power?

Are you unfamiliar with the benefits that money and power can bring to a person?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 06, 2017, 03:25:52 PM
sure thing BoooooooZooooooo

theres you 😂

nothing to do with the thread, FAIL


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 04:34:51 PM
Finally proof. Strike team at the tropicana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd-qz6ei-UM


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: tommywishbone on October 06, 2017, 04:41:22 PM
WTF?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 04:53:12 PM
Which dumb fuck is going to ask for proof it was the same night?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 06, 2017, 04:56:06 PM
Which dumb fuck is going to ask for proof it was the same night?

Where's the proof it was the same night?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 06, 2017, 05:09:31 PM
Finally proof. Strike team at the tropicana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd-qz6ei-UM

What does this prove?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 05:18:59 PM
Power and wealth?

to do what with?




FUCK OFF UGLY girl, THIS IS JUST BAD TROLLING, REAL LIFE UNDER-THE-BRIDGE TROLLS AREN'T THIS DENSE


EDIT: girl WAS SUPPOSED TO BE C*NT.  FUCKING CENSORSHIP


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 05:23:36 PM
To guarantee and increase their own power and wealth is one reason.  Also because they are controlled by satan.

ANY COUNTRY THAT ALLOWS GAY MARRIAGE HAS BEEN LOST TO SATAN


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2017, 05:27:58 PM

One fuck with a helmet, the other no helmet in green camo, one in desert camo, one I  a yellow workout shirt, one cholo in the back with a petty cash box

:/


Finally proof. Strike team at the tropicana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd-qz6ei-UM


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 06, 2017, 05:44:56 PM
Finally proof. Strike team at the tropicana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd-qz6ei-UM

Hands up.  ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 06, 2017, 05:47:37 PM
Finally proof. Strike team at the tropicana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd-qz6ei-UM

Pigs pointing guns at innocent civilians. Bullshit!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 06, 2017, 05:51:41 PM
Pigs pointing guns at innocent civilians. Bullshit!

You must be trolling.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 06, 2017, 05:51:52 PM
Personally I would have probably just kept them down but Mr yellow shirt man with the itchy trigger finger would have no doubt shot me. Seriously who the fuck is he pointing that thing at?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 05:54:46 PM
Finally proof. Strike team at the tropicana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd-qz6ei-UM

What it proves is they were responding to the tropicana because the medics that arrived there before them took fire. Jesus, do you fucking people do any homework before just shooting everything down? I posted the written radio transcripts and the actual audio of the LVMPD earlier in the thread. There were shootings at the belagio, caesars, tropicana and mandalay. I post pics and stories from people from caesars, retards claim they're lying EVEN THOUGH  you hear in the audio that shots were reported fired there and a strike team is sent out. I post a video from the belagio which clearly shows it locked down with the woman taking the video asking security about the shooting there to confirm that it happened. Retards ask "where's the proof it's from that night?"

Suck my dick fag gots


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 06, 2017, 05:57:56 PM
What it proves is they were responding to the tropicana because the medics that arrived there before them took fire. Jesus, do you fucking people do any homework before just shooting everything down? I posted the written radio transcripts and the actual audio of the LVMPD earlier in the thread. There were shootings at the belagio, caesars, tropicana and mandalay. I post pics and stories from people from caesars, retards claim they're lying EVEN THOUGH  you hear in the audio that shots reported fired there and a strike team is sent out. I post a video from the belagio which clearly shows it locked down with the woman taking the video asking security about the shooting there to confirm that it happened. Retards ask "where's the proof it's from that night?"

Suck my dick guys.

Did you know that there were also shots fired at the belagio caesars and the Tropicana?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2017, 05:59:15 PM
Hands up or get ready for this fully automatic military assault rifle to make you into Swiss cheese


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Did you know that there were also shots fired at the belagio caesars and the Tropicana?

Yes, I've been saying it for days. Two teams got sent to the excalibur as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY3BBMYJqEo

Listen to the whole thing or don't @35:00 call goes out that medics are taking fire at the tropicana. Strike team is sent.

Jesus christ people are dense.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 06:08:14 PM
Where's the proof it was the same night?

You get a pass.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 06, 2017, 06:10:36 PM
Yes, I've been saying it for days. Two teams got sent to the excalibur as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY3BBMYJqEo

Listen to the whole thing or don't @35:00 call goes out that medics are taking fire at the tropicana. Strike team is sent.

Jesus christ people are dense.

I'm just messin man but yes lots of vids about it and police scanners. Don't know what to make of it. Was anyone shot at these other places?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 06:10:56 PM
Finally proof. Strike team at the tropicana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd-qz6ei-UM

PROOF OF WHAT


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 06:12:44 PM
 ;D I hate you fuckers.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2017, 06:16:22 PM
We still have zero pics of a plane hitting the Pentagon on 911


I won't hold my breath for a single image of this dude his entire weekend in Vegas

The have shown one image of him before he tripping at a different casino years ago.


That was great in proving his killing spree last Sunday


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 06, 2017, 06:17:40 PM
Pigs pointing guns at innocent civilians. Bullshit!

Tactical as fuck.  Ordering people that they know have nothing to do with it to put their hands up.

Jerkoffs


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 06, 2017, 06:18:15 PM
You must be trolling.

This time I'm not. It's fine to have weapons drawn but keep them pointed in a safe direction. It's gun safety 101 but for some reason pigs are exempt.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 06:18:58 PM
@22:00 there's a call of active shooter coming down escalator  from new york new york to excaliber.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2017, 06:22:07 PM
What happens if you have a million dollars the table and a royal flush and they order you to leave the table by pointing an assault weapon at you, you finally get back to the table when it's clear the next day and dealer is replaced and your cards are gone.

Does the gov. Reimburse you for the winning you would of won?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 06, 2017, 06:22:19 PM
This time I'm not. It's fine to have weapons drawn but keep them pointed in a safe direction. It's gun safety 101 but for some reason pigs are exempt.

Cops can do what they want.

(http://jimbovard.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/watertown-gun-aimed-at-photogrphaer-923495_10200611106256641_1972215990_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2017, 06:23:58 PM

Dan blitzarian? He did say he was going to get his gun from his car

@22:00 there's a call of active shooter coming down escalator  from new york new york to excaliber.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2017, 06:25:33 PM
Hat to back yo! 'Murcia , close your fucking curtains grandma

Cops can do what they want.

(http://jimbovard.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/watertown-gun-aimed-at-photogrphaer-923495_10200611106256641_1972215990_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 06, 2017, 06:25:58 PM
Cops can do what they want.

(http://jimbovard.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/watertown-gun-aimed-at-photogrphaer-923495_10200611106256641_1972215990_n.jpg)

These pigs need to study up on rule #2


(http://preparedgunowners.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/firarms-safety-sign.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2017, 06:28:02 PM
I was hearing on the radio today that youtube is trying to do an update on their site and get anything conspiracy related to not pop up in the search because it does not want to be associated as a place for conspiracies

:/


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 06:28:10 PM
Dan blitzarian? He did say he was going to get his gun from his car


 ;D

No, but there's a video of a cop telling him to get the fuck out of there and he didn't care who he was. That was at the mandalay.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2017, 06:29:23 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/youtube-tweaks-its-search-results-after-rise-of-las-vegas-conspiracy-theories-1507219180 (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/youtube-tweaks-its-search-results-after-rise-of-las-vegas-conspiracy-theories-1507219180)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 06, 2017, 06:29:54 PM
Meanwhile politicians love to say "Weapons of war have no place on our streets".

It looks like they do to me.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 06, 2017, 06:35:00 PM
I was hearing on the radio today that youtube is trying to do an update on their site and get anything conspiracy related to not pop up in the search because it does not want to be associated as a place for conspiracies

:/

...and who defines what is considered a conspiracy?  Probably some fucking 22 year old pajama boy that couldn't find his ass with both hands.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 06:37:15 PM
I'm just messin man but yes lots of vids about it and police scanners. Don't know what to make of it. Was anyone shot at these other places?

Yeah, that's why they're carrying a stretcher in the vid.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 06, 2017, 06:37:49 PM
;D

No, but there's a video of a cop telling him to get the fuck out of there and he didn't care who he was. That was at the mandalay.

This was well entertaining.  Dan B kept insisting the cop give him a gun as though they were in some retarded movie where aliens were invading.

Deputize me bro!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 06, 2017, 06:38:32 PM
YouTube has been omitting the shooting vids dor a few days now. Back as early as Tuesday I typed in the title of a video in the search thing and I took it down perfectly because I had another window with it open and nothing came up bit when I type in the "share" link. It worked


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 07:00:00 PM
YOUTUBE IS OWNED BY GOOGLE WHICH IS EVIL NOW AND CENSORSHIP CENTRAL

THEY ARE THE GOVERNMENT


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 07:03:15 PM
This time I'm not. It's fine to have weapons drawn but keep them pointed in a safe direction. It's gun safety 101 but for some reason pigs are exempt.

The fact that they're battle ready pointing their weapons at every civie in the casino is interesting, meaning they were expecting a firefight. Police don't do this to anyone unless they're threatening the police, or are suspects committing a crime. Even in a situation like this, they would either ask all the civies to leave and line up, or just walk through there without asking anything of them and telling them to remain calm.

This isn't part of any fucking police, SWAT, or domestic military protocal when dealing with a domestic mass shooting. They were acting like the people there were the enemy and not innocent civilians. You don't do that as a public servant of any kind unless you're in a warzone or in a literal firefight.

Even if they were just escorting someone higher up, they wouldn't be acting like that. Their weapons would be at the hip in resting position, not in firing position. Something is very fucky.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 07:09:46 PM
People are saying to save the video, they think it will be removed.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Princess L on October 06, 2017, 07:20:43 PM
Yes, I've been saying it for days. Two teams got sent to the excalibur as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY3BBMYJqEo

Listen to the whole thing or don't @35:00 call goes out that medics are taking fire at the tropicana. Strike team is sent.

Jesus christ people are dense.

Negative @ 36: and 38:


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 06, 2017, 07:32:03 PM
We still have zero pics of a plane hitting the Pentagon on 911


I won't hold my breath for a single image of this dude his entire weekend in Vegas

The have shown one image of him before he tripping at a different casino years ago.


That was great in proving his killing spree last Sunday
WHILE I do agree with most of your post..The pentagon video was out long ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaPoD_7TmNc


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 06, 2017, 07:41:09 PM
YOUTUBE IS OWNED BY GOOGLE WHICH IS EVIL NOW AND CENSORSHIP CENTRAL

THEY ARE THE GOVERNMENT

Try googling the "conspiracy/ second shooter"stuff as well... Same thing as early as Monday or Tuesday nothing was popping up on Google


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 06, 2017, 08:15:06 PM
Negative @ 36: and 38:

Negative for a shooter inside the tropicana casino, the medics were shot at outside. This isn't a civilian calling  911 saying they heard gunshots. It's medical responding to a gunshot victim telling dispatch they're being fired upon at the scene. If nobody was shot at the tropicana why were medics there?  Why was SWAT carrying a stretcher when they arrived if a shooting didn't take place?

You will also notice head of secuity and plain clothes at the rear. Both of them break off from the team, notice the bag the plain clothes is carrying.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 06, 2017, 10:12:36 PM
Take another shot of Estrogen and calm down Nancy.

Major hotels will eventually get security like current airports have. And I fully agree with it. I don't necessarily blame The Mandalay Bay Hotel for it's complacency and security protocols, but I do believe that there now needs to be a change in major hotels, worldwide.

From now on, just like airports, you need to go through a metal detector and an X-Ray machine to check in.

Under these new security measures, there is no way a man would be able to smuggle 23 guns into a hotel.

It takes people dying for shit to change.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 06, 2017, 10:17:16 PM
I think to be fully safe, American needs checkpoints (with staff) everywhere.  Something similar to Palestine.

This is the only way to be safe and we need to accept it.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 06, 2017, 10:20:25 PM
I think to be fully safe, American needs checkpoints (with staff) everywhere.  Something similar to Palestine.

This is the only way to be safe and we need to accept it.



And microchips


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 06, 2017, 10:34:26 PM
So tell me - how does the hotel know when this guy's car left the premises while a key card was being used to enter his room....but don't have video of who is entering the room? Nonsense.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 06, 2017, 10:35:43 PM
And microchips

 THE MARK OF THE BEAST

NEVER ACCEPT THAT


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 06, 2017, 11:51:10 PM
So tell me - how does the hotel know when this guy's car left the premises while a key card was being used to enter his room....but don't have video of who is entering the room? Nonsense.

Like they don't have video. I left my card At The bar and went up to the room at Morongo and 30min later they were knocking on the door with it and the room wasn't even in my name. lol and that was at Morongo,  not Mandalay Bay.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 06, 2017, 11:54:36 PM
I think to be fully safe, American needs checkpoints (with staff) everywhere.  Something similar to Palestine.

This is the only way to be safe and we need to accept it.



Fuck all that.  I'd rather wear body armor and a brain bucket every time I go out of my house.

We need to be more free, not less free.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 07, 2017, 12:25:03 AM
I'm confident we can legislate ourselves to safety.



(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e4/fb/bb/e4fbbb4270c138377e21b1c0a459c886.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 12:37:29 AM
They're now pulling planes off the runway into the street.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBFbxKk65pc


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 07, 2017, 12:46:46 AM
They're now pulling planes off the runway into the street.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBFbxKk65pc

EVERYBODY KEEP CALM AND BECOME TRANS!!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Griffith on October 07, 2017, 01:23:52 AM
Fuck all that.  I'd rather wear body armor and a brain bucket every time I go out of my house.

We need to be more free, not less free.



Agreed.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Griffith on October 07, 2017, 01:24:50 AM
I think to be fully safe, American needs checkpoints (with staff) everywhere.  Something similar to Palestine.

This is the only way to be safe and we need to accept it.



Prison state of peace.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 07, 2017, 01:27:44 AM
And microchips
everyone is walking around with a microchip already, its called a phone.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Griffith on October 07, 2017, 01:29:50 AM
And microchips

Screw that.

We're already controlled enough as it is. Phones, computers, credit cards, where we spend..


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 07, 2017, 04:27:44 AM
Screw that.

We're already controlled enough as it is. Phones, computers, credit cards, where we spend..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d4RtvMQp10


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on October 07, 2017, 07:20:49 AM
Black and/or fat people must be behind this


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Princess L on October 07, 2017, 08:15:15 AM
Negative for a shooter inside the tropicana casino, the medics were shot at outside. This isn't a civilian calling  911 saying they heard gunshots. It's medical responding to a gunshot victim telling dispatch they're being fired upon at the scene. If nobody was shot at the tropicana why were medics there?  Why was SWAT carrying a stretcher when they arrived if a shooting didn't take place?

You will also notice head of secuity and plain clothes at the rear. Both of them break off from the team, notice the bag the plain clothes is carrying.


Strike teams were sent to all the hotels.  

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/04/555305057/listen-amid-chaos-in-las-vegas-police-dispatches-reveal-an-evolving-response



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: LittleJ on October 07, 2017, 08:44:44 AM
Black and/or fat people must be behind this

Nope your kind. :D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: stuntmovie on October 07, 2017, 09:03:56 AM
I drove by the Mandalay Bay and the incident site yesterday along Las Vegas Blvd.

Due to the area 'investigation' there was only one lane open and the traffic was immense.

Police and FBI vehicles were everywhere and it appeared that there were many hundreds of officials on the grounds investigating every square inch of it.

Something like CSI ... but for real this time.

It would be interesting to learn what they were looking for and what they found.

I assume that a full report will be published soon which might satisfy everyone's curiosity.

I gotta say that the local response is overwhelming as everyone in this town is doing whatever they can do to be of help.

Blood and money donations are exceeded everyone's expectations.

Sorry but I ain't got no conspiracy theories to offer just yet.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Princess L on October 07, 2017, 09:06:32 AM
So tell me - how does the hotel know when this guy's car left the premises while a key card was being used to enter his room....but don't have video of who is entering the room? Nonsense.

That has been reported as a false claim.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 09:17:47 AM

Strike teams were sent to all the hotels.  

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/04/555305057/listen-amid-chaos-in-las-vegas-police-dispatches-reveal-an-evolving-response



Sorry, I'm not buying that bullshit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZQRaZJoqrY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5G8Uf5QPks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnxDl6Iw254

Believe what you want.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 07, 2017, 09:19:47 AM
I wish people would stop talking bullshit about this.

People need to stop acting like they know things that they couldn't possibly know.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 09:38:19 AM

That has been reported as a false claim.

That also fails to explain why medics were at the tropicana or the stretcher that the SWAT team was carrying.
There's conformation from people who were in the casino's making videos and sending texts the same night
confirming that shots were fired. Can your source explain for that?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 07, 2017, 09:41:05 AM
The videos seem to show that something was going on in the Tropicana.  Have the cops commented on that yet?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 10:03:01 AM
There was a fed on 4chan last night. The moderaters shut the thread down within a few minutes. The pictures from paddocks room and the body were leaked by a fed, LVPD was told to take responsibility.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 07, 2017, 10:18:28 AM
everyone is walking around with a microchip already, its called a phone.

i know for a fact Facebook listens to the speaker/mic on phones, my phone at least. without ever typing/searching the term or word "knee/hip rehab rehab" and within a day local hip and knee rehab doctors/clinics ads show up on my facebook feed. same with a vacuum. was talking about vacuuming and changing out the HIPA fiter and next day i have Dyson vacuum ads on FB. not a chance thats a coincidence


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 07, 2017, 10:20:22 AM
i know for a fact Facebook listens to the speaker/mic on phones, my phone at least. without ever typing/searching the term or word "knee/hip rehab rehab" and within a day local hip and knee rehab doctors/clinics ads show up on my facebook feed. same with a vacuum. was talking about vacuuming and changing out the HIPA fiter and next day i have Dyson vacuum ads on FB. not a chance thats a coincidence

Yep, everyone has these "alexa" devises in their home, fucker records everything you say, Mrs came home and reported that I had been telling it to shut the fuck up...., she showed me the recording on her phone...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 07, 2017, 10:30:33 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLPxif5WsAEbQE9.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 07, 2017, 11:04:46 AM
The videos seem to show that something was going on in the Tropicana.  Have the cops commented on that yet?

It was a precaution.  In an active shooter situation, there is a lot of confusion.  Thousands of people will call 911, stating they hear gunshots at their location.  It is standard LEO SOG to lock things down, until they can figure out what is going on.  Hope this helps. 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLH43MsVYAAyzpw.jpg)

MGM Resorts International owns and operates 13 resorts and casinos in Las Vegas, including Mandalay Bay, ARIA, Bellagio, Circus Circus, Delano, Excalibur, Luxor, MGM Grand, The Signature at MGM Grand, The Mirage, Monte Carlo, New York-New York, and Vdara.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 11:08:36 AM
The videos seem to show that something was going on in the Tropicana.  Have the cops commented on that yet?

Yeah, early on they claimed it was due to confusion when paddock was firing from mandalay bay. That explanation makes no sense because paddock was already dead at the time.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 11:15:34 AM
It was a precaution.  In an active shooter situation, there is a lot of confusion.  Thousands of people will call 911, stating they hear gunshots at their location.  It is standard LEO SOG to lock things down, until they can figure out what is going on.  Hope this helps. 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLH43MsVYAAyzpw.jpg)

MGM Resorts International owns and operates 13 resorts and casinos in Las Vegas, including Mandalay Bay, ARIA, Bellagio, Circus Circus, Delano, Excalibur, Luxor, MGM Grand, The Signature at MGM Grand, The Mirage, Monte Carlo, New York-New York, and Vdara.


Ffs...the god damn medics called it in that they were being shot at!!!! This was not confused civilians. Fuck me...How do they explain gunfire at other casino's as confusion when paddock was already dead. The gunfire at mandalay bay only lasted 10-11 minutes. Fucking retards...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 07, 2017, 11:20:31 AM
Ffs...the god damn medics called it in that they were being shot at!!!! This was not confused civilians. Fuck me...How do they explain gunfire at other casino's as confusion when paddock was already dead. The gunfire at mandalay bay only lasted 10-11 minutes. Fucking retards...

medics dont get trained to react to being shot at, as such they are confused civilians when it happens


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 11:51:44 AM
medics dont get trained to react to being shot at, as such they are confused civilians when it happens

Moron, paddock was already dead at mandalay when other shootings were taking place. Look at the timeline. He was fucking dead. Listen to when SWAT was breaching the door to his room at the mandalay. The same media telling you this is the same media who tells you that daca students are future doctors, lawyers and scientists when the truth is the overwhelming majority are taking liberal arts classes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_g9uIHCAZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3zpTKg3IIw

This same mestizo rat had a gofundme page asking to help pay for rent while she was waiting for her government assisted loans.
The same government she expects to pay for her schooling she calls genocidal and racist just like all the rest of these scum.

Your tax dollars at work.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 07, 2017, 11:55:35 AM
Moron, paddock was already dead at mandalay when other shootings were taking place. Look at the timeline. He was fucking dead. Listen to when SWAT was breaching the door to his room at the mandalay. The same media telling you this is the same media who tells you that daca students are future doctors, lawyers and scientists when the truth is the majority are taking liberal arts classes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_g9uIHCAZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3zpTKg3IIw

This same mestizo rat had a gofundme page asking to help pay for rent while she was waiting for her government assisted loans.
The same government she expects to pay for her schooling she calls genocidal and racist just like all the rest of these scum.

Your tax dollars at work.

why did you quote me and then not even address my quote?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 07, 2017, 12:00:49 PM
Moron, paddock was already dead at mandalay when other shootings were taking place. Look at the timeline. He was fucking dead. Listen to when SWAT was breaching the door to his room at the mandalay. The same media telling you this is the same media who tells you that daca students are future doctors, lawyers and scientists when the truth is the overwhelming majority are taking liberal arts classes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_g9uIHCAZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3zpTKg3IIw

This same mestizo rat had a gofundme page asking to help pay for rent while she was waiting for her government assisted loans.
The same government she expects to pay for her schooling she calls genocidal and racist just like all the rest of these scum.

Your tax dollars at work.
I am sorry that you are so filled with hatred. Ignorance, hate, and mental health are colorless.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 07, 2017, 12:03:57 PM
Ffs...the god damn medics called it in that they were being shot at!!!! This was not confused civilians. Fuck me...How do they explain gunfire at other casino's as confusion when paddock was already dead. The gunfire at mandalay bay only lasted 10-11 minutes. Fucking retards...

The medics were confused as well.  Per the dispatch traffic, there were reports of shots fired at New York New York.  Police on scene reported that there were no shots fired.  There were also reports of shots fired at the Tropicana by medics.  Shortly after, police on scene said their were no shots fired at that location.

As I previously stated, active shooter situations are chaotic, with a lot of confusion and misinformation.  Hope this helps.  


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 12:03:59 PM
why did you quote me and then not even address my quote?

Well based on your posts throughout this thread I can only assume you are dumb enough to believe that they were confused by gunfire at mandalay. You're stating the obvious when it comes to medics. My question to you is how they were confused by gunfire coming from a man who was already dead?  Aren't you british? Fuck off.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 12:04:37 PM
I am sorry that you are so filled with hatred. Ignorance, hate, and mental health are colorless.

Eat a dick you marxist fag got.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 07, 2017, 12:05:17 PM
Well based on your posts throughout this thread I can only assume you are dumb enough to believe that they were confused by gunfire at mandalay. You're stating the obvious when it comes to medics. My question to you is how they were confused by gunfire coming from a man who was already dead?  Aren't you british? Fuck off.

I tend to wait until I have all the information before i go off half cocked...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 12:07:11 PM
The medics were confused as well.  Per the dispatch traffic, there were reports of shots fired at New York New York.  Police on scene reported that there were no shots fired.  There were also reports of shots fired at the Tropicana by medics.  Shortly after, police on scene said their were no shots fired at that location.

As I previously stated, active shooter situations are chaotic, with a lot of confusion and misinformation.  Hope this helps.  

It only helps show how gullible people are.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 07, 2017, 12:09:35 PM
Eat a dick you marxist fag got.
You see I have no idea what a Marxist is. I don't let political shit inundate my entire existence.

Sir, what would be your perfect endgame? Would it be to gather an army of whites to eliminate all those who stand in their way?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 12:09:44 PM
I tend to wait until I have all the information before i go off half cocked...

And who is the source of that information? Take piers morgan's dick out of your mouth.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 07, 2017, 12:10:15 PM
And who is the source of that information? Take piers morgan's dick out of your mouth.

i tend to rely on Alex Jones...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 12:17:09 PM
You see I have no idea what a Marxist is. I don't let political shit inundate my entire existence.

Sir, what would be your perfect endgame? Would it be to gather an army of whites to eliminate all those who stand in their way?

You know exactly what it is. Were't you the same dumb fuck who claimed didn't know the difference between justice and social justice? If you are that uninformed and have no real understanding of history than perhaps you should keep quiet.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 07, 2017, 12:24:06 PM
You know exactly what it is. Were't you the same dumb fuck who claimed didn't know the difference between justice and social justice? If you are that uninformed and have no real understanding of history than perhaps you should keep quiet.
I won't. You are a fucking racist. There is no such thing as a "superior race". Intelligence, drive, and the willingness to succeed, is in all humans.

You are part of the problem. You are the exact person that you claim to hate. Two racists don't make a right.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 12:45:15 PM
I won't. You are a fucking racist. There is no such thing as a "superior race". Intelligence, drive, and the willingness to succeed, is in all humans.

You are part of the problem. You are the exact person that you claim to hate. Two racists don't make a right.

No stupid, you are part of the problem. I never said anything about a superior race. Multiculturalism doesn't work. If white people all dissappeared tomorrow the same racism that exists now would continue to amongst brown people. This just shows you know nothing of history. You are another brainwashed marxist who thinks racially conscious white men are nazi's. I believe in seperation of the races. When it comes to white people wanting to preserve their race and cultures it's nazism. Why is it ok for mestizo's and blacks to block an entrance at a school not letting white students through? Would white students be allowed to do this? Go into a predominantly black neighboorhood in the evening and preach your message of racial unity, see where that gets you imbecile.

Maybe you'll except the truth when it comes from a black man instead you cuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1-JWNeIEMY

Do you have a problem with this?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 07, 2017, 12:49:16 PM
No stupid, you are part of the problem. I never said anything about a superior race. Multiculturalism doesn't work. If white people all dissappeared tomorrow the same racism that exists now would continue to amongst brown people. This just shows you know nothing of history. You are another brainwashed marxist who thinks racially conscious white men are nazi's. I believe in seperation of the races. When it comes to white people wanting to preserve their race and cultures it's nazism. Why is it ok for mestizo's and blacks to block an entrance at a school not letting white students through? Would white students be allowed to do this? Go into a predominantly black neighboorhood in the evening and preach your message of racial unity, see where that gets you imbecile.

Maybe you'll except the truth when it comes from a black man instead you cuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1-JWNeIEMY



Do you have a problem with this?


Multiculturalism is the foundation of America. You stupid fuck. White people aren't native to the United States.... You stupid fuck.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 07, 2017, 12:53:43 PM
Your point is?
Stop being a scared white boy.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 01:01:09 PM
Multiculturalism is the foundation of America. You stupid fuck. White people aren't native to the United States.... You stupid fuck.

You CLEARLY have no knowledge of the history of this country or it's anglo forefathers. You are only parroting the same marxist nonsense you've been taught. I think you should look at immigration laws before the act passed in 1965. The founding fathers intention was for the united states to be a white nation. You are grossly misinformed my dear boy. Put your fucking dunce cap on and stand in the corner.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 01:02:16 PM
Stop being a scared white boy.

Fuck you commie scum.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 01:05:00 PM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/e848cf726381a6a28234246570a68f28/tumblr_oxgyf3CQvK1wd3uyro1_540.png)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 07, 2017, 01:08:09 PM
You CLEARLY have no knowledge of the history of this country or it's anglo forefathers. You are only parroting the same marxist nonsense you've been taught. I think you should look at immigration laws before the act passed in 1965. The founding fathers intention was for the united states to be a white nation. You are grossly misinformed my dear boy. Put your fucking dunce cap on and stand in the corner.
Then why have so many slaves? Is that why they massacred the NATIVE AMERICANS and lied to them the entire time?

Look, I love my country, but it isn't without scars.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 01:17:27 PM
What fucking difference does it make if the indians were here first? Before we came they fought each other non stop for land. We came, we fought, they lost. This is how it's been throughout human history you fucking pleb. All people have fought  over land and resources, we're just better at it. Why should we apologize? Fuck'em. And fuck puerto rico, let'em die. They are a welfare state and just another drain on our economy.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 07, 2017, 01:19:44 PM
What fucking difference does it make if the indians were here first? Before we came they fought each other non stop for land. We came, we fought, they lost. This is how it's been throughout human history you fucking pleb. All people have fought  over land and resources, we're just better at it. Why should we apologize? Fuck'em. And fuck puerto rico, let'em die. They are a welfare state and just another drain on our economy.
Solid job.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 07, 2017, 01:27:01 PM
What fucking difference does it make if the indians were here first? Before we came they fought each other non stop for land. We came, we fought, they lost. This is how it's been throughout human history you fucking pleb. All people have fought  over land and resources, we're just better at it. Why should we apologize? Fuck'em. And fuck puerto rico, let'em die. They are a welfare state and just another drain on our economy.
What about the mixed races that helped defeat Hitler in World War 2?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 01:32:37 PM
What about the mixed races that helped defeat Hitler in World War 2?

Don't get me started about WWII...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 07, 2017, 01:38:02 PM
Don't get me started about WWII...
Please don't. Most of us just wish that you will go away.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: chaos on October 07, 2017, 02:00:17 PM
cross-of-iron = solid poster


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 02:07:47 PM
Please don't. Most of us just wish that you will go away.

There are  plenty of threads here full of blatant homosexuality, you won't find me posting there nor will you see me arguing with other pathetic insecure middle aged man children about who has a better physique. If you come at me with your parroted marxist rhetoric, know that you will lose.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 07, 2017, 02:12:04 PM
There are  plenty of threads here full of blatant homosexuality, you won't find me posting there nor will you see me arguing with other pathetic insecure middle aged man children about who has a better physique. If you come at me with your parroted marxist rhetoric, know that you will lose.

Teach us about ww2 bro, i wasn't taught anything in school about it so my mind is unpolluted and receptive to truth


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 02:12:59 PM
Teach us about ww2 bro, i wasn't taught anything in school about it so my mind is unpolluted and receptive to truth

 ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Redux on October 07, 2017, 02:15:29 PM
cross-of-iron gets my vote for getbigger of the month
dude is doing solid work in this thread


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 07, 2017, 02:22:20 PM
There are  plenty of threads here full of blatant homosexuality, you won't find me posting there nor will you see me arguing with other pathetic insecure middle aged man children about who has a better physique. If you come at me with your parroted marxist rhetoric, know that you will lose.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mkwikia/images/5/58/Scorpion_fatality.gif/revision/latest?cb=20130916170539)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 07, 2017, 02:22:53 PM
cross-of-iron gets my vote for getbigger of the month
dude is doing solid work in this thread

Avatar of the month as well, its like kai greene towel video of someone sucking him off behind the flag.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 07, 2017, 02:31:06 PM
;D

....ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT/

i was being sincere


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Skeletor on October 07, 2017, 02:35:22 PM
What a pussy.

Phoenix man turns in his guns in wake of Vegas massacre

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StupidisasStupidDoes-600x400.jpg)

http://www.azfamily.com/story/36524940/phoenix-man-turns-in-his-guns-in-wake-of-vegas-massacre

This was his "machine gun" (according to him):

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Image-139-600x360.jpg)

The best part is that he ended up having to hire armed security for his protection...

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.pring.9/posts/10159432815150720



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 02:35:37 PM
....ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT/

i was being sincere

I prefer to keep the thread on topic.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 02:37:42 PM
What a pussy.

Phoenix man turns in his guns in wake of Vegas massacre

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StupidisasStupidDoes-600x400.jpg)

http://www.azfamily.com/story/36524940/phoenix-man-turns-in-his-guns-in-wake-of-vegas-massacre

This was his "machine gun" (according to him):

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Image-139-600x360.jpg)

The best part is that he ended up having to hire armed security for his protection...

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.pring.9/posts/10159432815150720



Is that a 10/22?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Skeletor on October 07, 2017, 02:43:30 PM
Is that a 10/22?

Yes, but according to that pussy, it's a "machine gun"...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 07, 2017, 02:46:21 PM
I prefer to keep the thread on topic.

i made a new thread for you then brah


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 07, 2017, 02:48:39 PM
What a pussy.

Phoenix man turns in his guns in wake of Vegas massacre

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StupidisasStupidDoes-600x400.jpg)

http://www.azfamily.com/story/36524940/phoenix-man-turns-in-his-guns-in-wake-of-vegas-massacre

This was his "machine gun" (according to him):

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Image-139-600x360.jpg)

The best part is that he ended up having to hire armed security for his protection...

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.pring.9/posts/10159432815150720



lol omg what a pussy indeed!!!  ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 07, 2017, 02:50:22 PM
Is that a 10/22?

Yes, bubba-fied 10/22 and a PK380.  Quite the arsenal.  I love the look on the cops face.  He's thinking, "Is this guy fucking retarded?" :D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 07, 2017, 03:02:40 PM
What a pussy.

Phoenix man turns in his guns in wake of Vegas massacre

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StupidisasStupidDoes-600x400.jpg)

http://www.azfamily.com/story/36524940/phoenix-man-turns-in-his-guns-in-wake-of-vegas-massacre

This was his "machine gun" (according to him):

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Image-139-600x360.jpg)

The best part is that he ended up having to hire armed security for his protection...

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.pring.9/posts/10159432815150720



Cuckington Cucksworth over here thinks that a 10/22 is a machine gun.  Deport this guy.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 07, 2017, 03:37:31 PM
Then why have so many slaves? Is that why they massacred the NATIVE AMERICANS and lied to them the entire time?

Look, I love my country, but it isn't without scars.

Listen to this liberal apologist bullshit. lol $20 says if you somehow got married and saw an indian at a restaurant you'd pay for his meal and let him fuck your wife. Indians hate you round-eye. Given the opportunity still to this day, they would still scalp you no matter how bad you feel for them, but not before they fuck you. They're known for that. Indians are the most racist people in America. Even people in Vietnam have gotten over the war and like Americans now and it only Took'em 20yrs. Indians have had a Hundred years.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 07, 2017, 03:41:06 PM
When it comes to Native Americans it seems like people still go along with the "noble savage" fantasy.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 07, 2017, 04:03:10 PM
When it comes to Native Americans it seems like people still go along with the "noble savage" fantasy.

Fucking everything is sacred to them  ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eric2 on October 07, 2017, 04:08:34 PM
What a pussy.

Phoenix man turns in his guns in wake of Vegas massacre

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StupidisasStupidDoes-600x400.jpg)

http://www.azfamily.com/story/36524940/phoenix-man-turns-in-his-guns-in-wake-of-vegas-massacre

This was his "machine gun" (according to him):

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Image-139-600x360.jpg)

The best part is that he ended up having to hire armed security for his protection...

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.pring.9/posts/10159432815150720



Good, weak minded men like this would not last in conflict. He may as well give up his weapons.  His real motivation is attention however. The fucking wimp is trying to make a statement.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 07, 2017, 04:09:39 PM
Good, weak minded men like this would not last in conflict. He may as well give up his weapons.  His real motivation is attention however. The fucking wimp is trying to make a statement.

I guess it's a noble gesture if he was planning a massacre.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 07, 2017, 04:13:28 PM
Listen to this liberal apologist bullshit. lol $20 says if you somehow got married and saw an indian at a restaurant you'd pay for his meal and let him fuck your wife. Indians hate you round-eye. Given the opportunity still to this day, they would still scalp you no matter how bad you feel for them, but not before they fuck you. They're known for that. Indians are the most racist people in America. Even people in Vietnam have gotten over the war and like Americans now and it only Took'em 20yrs. Indians have had a Hundred years.

Yup.

Dumbass inbred ugly Indians lost, only mistake of the Europeans coming over was not wiping them ALL out


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 07, 2017, 04:14:03 PM
Virtue signaling kunt just trying to get attention.  Men like him make women's ovaries wither and die.

His wife is probably already fucking someone behind his back.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eric2 on October 07, 2017, 04:15:18 PM
The biggest mistake america has ever made was bringing blacks into the nation.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 07, 2017, 04:39:42 PM
The biggest mistake america has ever made was bringing blacks into the nation.

No the mistake was giving them anything after slavery

Should have had a choice: remain a slave, or hop on a ship and be deported back to Africa


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: dseiler on October 07, 2017, 04:45:50 PM
Teach us about ww2 bro, i wasn't taught anything in school about it so my mind is unpolluted and receptive to truth

I second this. Please give it to us.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Princess L on October 07, 2017, 04:48:08 PM
Sorry, I'm not buying that bullshit.

Believe what you want.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/04/555305057/listen-amid-chaos-in-las-vegas-police-dispatches-reveal-an-evolving-response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpMrm1xUJ40

24:00
53:


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 07, 2017, 05:14:23 PM
I second this. Please give it to us.

I made a thread called WWII for him to do it in

GO BUMP IT!!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 07, 2017, 05:19:23 PM
The biggest mistake america has ever made was bringing blacks into the nation.

Can you imagine what this country would be like if they were never brought here?  lol.

(http://www.theimaginativeconservative.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/city-of-the-future-hd-wallpaper.jpg)

(https://i1.wp.com/conatusnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/A-utopia.jpg?resize=545%2C346&ssl=1)



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 07, 2017, 05:20:18 PM
Cross of Iron is great... Shizzo is a mess


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 07, 2017, 05:50:51 PM
Can you imagine what this country would be like if they were never brought here?  lol.

(http://www.theimaginativeconservative.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/city-of-the-future-hd-wallpaper.jpg)

(https://i1.wp.com/conatusnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/A-utopia.jpg?resize=545%2C346&ssl=1)



Blacks will argue that they helped build America.  Lol.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 07, 2017, 06:01:28 PM
Blacks will argue that they helped build America.  Lol.

LMAO!!

Fucking idiots!!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eric2 on October 07, 2017, 06:05:44 PM
Can you imagine what this country would be like if they were never brought here?  lol.

(http://www.theimaginativeconservative.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/city-of-the-future-hd-wallpaper.jpg)

(https://i1.wp.com/conatusnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/A-utopia.jpg?resize=545%2C346&ssl=1)



Hahaha, oh shit! ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 07, 2017, 06:51:33 PM
Shizzo, maybe you'll see things in a different way after watching this.  :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ytJG8X6obk


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 07, 2017, 07:01:23 PM
Shizzo, maybe you'll see things I'n a different way after watching this.  :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ytJG8X6obk


Crosser some power hungry mod deleted by ww2 thread, i guess you have to make it, smh


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 07, 2017, 09:13:50 PM
sad


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 07, 2017, 09:14:42 PM
sad


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eric2 on October 07, 2017, 10:14:47 PM
Two of my best friends where at the show. They where standing at the spot where the first shots came in, the worse of the carnage.They where pinned down by fire. As they layed there bullets wizzed by their legs and heads, skipling off and into other people laying right next to them. When there was a lull in the firing he grabbed his wifes arm and they ran, several others running with them(people they did not now) dropped dead before they hit the ground from head and back shots. They barely got out of there. They personaly witnessed at least 20 people shot to death within feet of them.  Brutal shit.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 07, 2017, 10:24:18 PM
I guess it's a noble gesture if he was planning a massacre.


Exactly. What a fucked up stupid faggoty asshole dipshit waste of flesh piece of shit stupid bastard. Guess he will have to call 911 when his house gets broken into because he told the world he has no form of self defense.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 07, 2017, 10:28:39 PM
What a pussy.

Phoenix man turns in his guns in wake of Vegas massacre

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StupidisasStupidDoes-600x400.jpg)

http://www.azfamily.com/story/36524940/phoenix-man-turns-in-his-guns-in-wake-of-vegas-massacre

This was his "machine gun" (according to him):

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Image-139-600x360.jpg)

The best part is that he ended up having to hire armed security for his protection...

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.pring.9/posts/10159432815150720



What a weak-minded individual.  Doing that merely out of fear (of people complaining on him) and to hope he gets some approval of other people.

That doesn't help anything. Instead it was more costly for him economically having to hire armed security as protection against robbing neegs.


Was probably his wife/sister's suggestion as well!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 07, 2017, 10:30:24 PM
Shizzo, maybe you'll see things in a different way after watching this.  :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ytJG8X6obk

That is fucked up. Funny, but still fucked up.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Skeletor on October 07, 2017, 10:32:28 PM

Exactly. What a fucked up stupid faggoty asshole dipshit waste of flesh piece of shit stupid bastard. Guess he will have to call 911 when his house gets broken into because he told the world he has no form of self defense.

Well, any criminals will surely have second thoughts after reading what this tough guy posted:

"To any would be home invaders, watch out, I just bought a brand new Slugger.
If I have a break-in at my house, I’ll hit him with a baseball bat. I’m not afraid. I don’t need a gun to be a man."


But the best part is:

"For the safety of my family, friends and staff I have hired armed security to protect me & my businesses."


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 07, 2017, 10:34:18 PM
So he's not willing to shoot someone but he's willing to bash their brains in with a baseball bat


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 07, 2017, 10:48:54 PM
Two of my best friends where at the show. They where standing at the spot where the first shots came in, the worse of the carnage.They where pinned down by fire. As they layed there bullets wizzed by their legs and heads, skipling off and into other people laying right next to them. When there was a lull in the firing he grabbed his wifes arm and they ran, several others running with them(people they did not now) dropped dead before they hit the ground from head and back shots. They barely got out of there. They personaly witnessed at least 20 people shot to death within feet of them.  Brutal shit.
Damn.
I found out two days later that a younger friend of mine working security there was shot in the head and killed on the spot.
Super nice guy. Erick Silva...just 22 years old. He was openly gay and alot of fun to hang out with. I had JUST seen him a few days before while I was getting fuel. We chatted for a few min and I said I'd text him over the weekend. I got busy and forgot.
Wish I could hug him just one last time. I'd never let go.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 07, 2017, 10:51:07 PM
Damn.
I found out two days later that a younger friend of mine working security there was shot in the head and killed on the spot.
Super nice guy. Erick Silva...just 22 years old. He was openly gay and alot of fun to hang out with. I had JUST seen him a few days before while I was getting fuel. We chatted for a few min and I said I'd text him over the weekend. I got busy and forgot.
Wish I could hug him just one last time. I'd never let go.

of course you had to mention that ::)



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 07, 2017, 10:53:31 PM
uggghhh....you again.
Leave it alone Poodle...p l e a s e


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 07, 2017, 11:21:10 PM
What a pussy.

Phoenix man turns in his guns in wake of Vegas massacre

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StupidisasStupidDoes-600x400.jpg)

http://www.azfamily.com/story/36524940/phoenix-man-turns-in-his-guns-in-wake-of-vegas-massacre

This was his "machine gun" (according to him):

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Image-139-600x360.jpg)

The best part is that he ended up having to hire armed security for his protection...

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.pring.9/posts/10159432815150720




Cop making the "what a fucking dumbass" face. He had what a 10-22 and Ruger 9? Real commando this guy was....


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 07, 2017, 11:45:46 PM
uggghhh....you again.
Leave it alone Poodle...p l e a s e

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT9IgKgf0l5Gl4NaEg/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 07, 2017, 11:49:22 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT9IgKgf0l5Gl4NaEg/giphy.gif)

what a useless man who has zero response to a woman

might as well be a corpse for all you're worth!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 08, 2017, 12:08:02 AM
This is rangerwil

(http://media.wallgif.com/gifs/c698b77fdb6a8164e059ce31edb5c90c2cd6c7f2.gif)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 08, 2017, 01:01:47 AM
This is rangerwil

(http://media.wallgif.com/gifs/c698b77fdb6a8164e059ce31edb5c90c2cd6c7f2.gif)

DUDE IS THAT THE FUCKING ROUND-EYED TRANNY I POSTED?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDoeUnWpccA

WHAT THE FUUUUUCKKK

IT FUCKING MIGHT BE CLAIRE


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SuperTed on October 08, 2017, 01:11:38 AM
What a pussy.

Phoenix man turns in his guns in wake of Vegas massacre

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StupidisasStupidDoes-600x400.jpg)

http://www.azfamily.com/story/36524940/phoenix-man-turns-in-his-guns-in-wake-of-vegas-massacre

This was his "machine gun" (according to him):

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Image-139-600x360.jpg)

The best part is that he ended up having to hire armed security for his protection...

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.pring.9/posts/10159432815150720



Dude obviously craving attention. He could easily have given up his weapons without anyone knowing. Probably hopes some liberal chick will now suck his cock as a reward.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 08, 2017, 01:22:52 AM
Dude obviously craving attention. He could easily have given up his weapons without anyone knowing. Probably hopes some liberal chick will now suck his cock as a reward.

or claire


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 08, 2017, 04:21:19 AM
What a pussy.

Phoenix man turns in his guns in wake of Vegas massacre

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StupidisasStupidDoes-600x400.jpg)
http://www.azfamily.com/story/36524940/phoenix-man-turns-in-his-guns-in-wake-of-vegas-massacre
This was his "machine gun" (according to him):
(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Image-139-600x360.jpg)
The best part is that he ended up having to hire armed security for his protection...
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.pring.9/posts/10159432815150720

This cuck deserves a punch in the mouth from every gun owner in the US.  Faggity attention whore


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 08, 2017, 04:30:32 AM
Blacks will argue that they helped build America.  Lol.

Donkeys and Tractors also helped build America lol


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 08, 2017, 04:32:10 AM
What a weak-minded individual.  Doing that merely out of fear (of people complaining on him) and to hope he gets some approval of other people.

That doesn't help anything. Instead it was more costly for him economically having to hire armed security as protection against robbing neegs.


Was probably his wife/sister's suggestion as well!

Stupid coward


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 08, 2017, 04:33:35 AM
The face of a modern white cuck.

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StupidisasStupidDoes-600x400.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 08, 2017, 04:36:45 AM
This is rangerwil

(http://media.wallgif.com/gifs/c698b77fdb6a8164e059ce31edb5c90c2cd6c7f2.gif)

He looks like Shelly Duvall, id hit that

(http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/161117132811-01-shelley-duvall-file-restricted-super-tease.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 08, 2017, 04:38:43 AM
The face of a modern white cuck.

(http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/StupidisasStupidDoes-600x400.jpg)

I always wondered how the Final Solution was actually carried out, but now I get it. I would gladly send people like him to the gas chamber.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 08, 2017, 04:43:23 AM
He looks like Shelly Duvall, id hit that

(http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/161117132811-01-shelley-duvall-file-restricted-super-tease.jpg)

it's claire pre-op

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDoeUnWpccA


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 08, 2017, 04:53:47 AM
My goodness, maybe it is time to join the savage Muslims  :'(


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 08, 2017, 05:07:55 AM
My goodness, maybe it is time to join the savage Muslims  :'(

i would have agreed a week ago, but then i discovered that ALLAH IS SATAN, not just figuratively but literally, THE KORAN FUCKING SAYS SO, so do the sumerian tablets, which are 4000 years old, the oldest recordings we have of any civilization, THEY OUTRIGHT SAY IN THE TABLETS THAT ALLAH IS SATAN, AND ALLAH PLUS ALOOT MAKE UP THE MALE/FEMALE ENTITIES IN ONE BODY OF SATAN, who is, therefore, a trasnvestite.

 :-\

look it up.  google 'allah is satan'.  compare the verses in the koran vs the ones in the bible if you don't want to trust the sumerians (i dont think there exists a more credible source than the tablets, btw).

koran says allah is great deceiver
bible says satan is the best deceiver

koran says, in the first line, allah is lord of the world
the bible says that satan is lord of the world

oh, and 666 written in greek numerals looks EXACTLY the same as the phrase 'in the name of allah' in arabic.

you can look that up too


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: viking1 on October 08, 2017, 11:29:44 AM
Two of my best friends where at the show. They where standing at the spot where the first shots came in, the worse of the carnage.They where pinned down by fire. As they layed there bullets wizzed by their legs and heads, skipling off and into other people laying right next to them. When there was a lull in the firing he grabbed his wifes arm and they ran, several others running with them(people they did not now) dropped dead before they hit the ground from head and back shots. They barely got out of there. They personaly witnessed at least 20 people shot to death within feet of them.  Brutal shit.



Man, that's horrific.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Ted SuperSet on October 08, 2017, 11:34:54 AM
i would have agreed a week ago, but then i discovered that ALLAH IS SATAN, not just figuratively but literally, THE KORAN FUCKING SAYS SO, so do the sumerian tablets, which are 4000 years old, the oldest recordings we have of any civilization, THEY OUTRIGHT SAY IN THE TABLETS THAT ALLAH IS SATAN, AND ALLAH PLUS ALOOT MAKE UP THE MALE/FEMALE ENTITIES IN ONE BODY OF SATAN, who is, therefore, a trasnvestite.

 :-\

look it up.  google 'allah is satan'.  compare the verses in the koran vs the ones in the bible if you don't want to trust the sumerians (i dont think there exists a more credible source than the tablets, btw).

koran says allah is great deceiver
bible says satan is the best deceiver

koran says, in the first line, allah is lord of the world
the bible says that satan is lord of the world

oh, and 666 written in greek numerals looks EXACTLY the same as the phrase 'in the name of allah' in arabic.

you can look that up too

You are spreading lies brah. Total utter bullshit.
Jews, christians and muslims must unite....not fight bitch amd mown at each other.
Together we can rule the infidels.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 08, 2017, 12:17:22 PM
You are spreading lies brah. Total utter bullshit.
Jews, christians and muslims must unite....not fight bitch amd mown at each other.
Together we can rule the infidels.


Thanks for your input Nether. But your wrong as usual.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 08, 2017, 02:15:14 PM
You are spreading lies brah. Total utter bullshit.
Jews, christians and muslims must unite....not fight bitch amd mown at each other.
Together we can rule the infidels.


100% true, i dare you to challenge any of the points


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 08, 2017, 02:38:36 PM
"Las Vegas prostitute who romped with mass killer Stephen Paddock says he enjoyed violent rape fantasies as she reveals he boasted he had always been evil

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4959970/Vegas-prostitute-says-Stephen-Paddock-enjoyed-violent-sex.html#ixzz4uxGxsjNH


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 08, 2017, 02:43:48 PM
Also...a big huge FUCK YOU to Steve Wynn for trying to make it seem like his casino would have caught on.
He's straight up lying by saying his security would have checked on the room SIMPLY because the guest had a ' DO NOT DISTURB' sign up for more than 12 hours.
Bullshit.
People come here all the time and check in an refuse room service right at the front desk upon arrival.
Happens every fucking day in every fucking casino.

Wynn/Encore are two of the most expensive properties in Vegas. If you have money to stay there, they're gonna cater to whatever u want.
Not wanting room service is fucking NORMAL.
He's not helping the casino industry one bit.
I guess he FORGOT his own kid was kidnapped. Crime happens and sometimes there's nothing that can be done.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-08/wynn-says-paddock-was-a-customer-would-have-triggered-alarms


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 08, 2017, 02:44:59 PM
"Las Vegas prostitute who romped with mass killer Stephen Paddock says he enjoyed violent rape fantasies as she reveals he boasted he had always been evil

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4959970/Vegas-prostitute-says-Stephen-Paddock-enjoyed-violent-sex.html#ixzz4uxGxsjNH

and yet to family and friends he was a normal guy, and was allowed to buy as many guns as he liked..


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eric2 on October 08, 2017, 03:12:03 PM
Also...a big huge FUCK YOU to Steve Wynn for trying to make it seem like his casino would have caught on.
He's straight up lying by saying his security would have checked on the room SIMPLY because the guest had a ' DO NOT DISTURB' sign up for more than 12 hours.
Bullshit.
People come here all the time and check in an refuse room service right at the front desk upon arrival.
Happens every fucking day in every fucking casino.

Wynn/Encore are two of the most expensive properties in Vegas. If you have money to stay there, they're gonna cater to whatever u want.
Not wanting room service is fucking NORMAL.
He's not helping the casino industry one bit.
I guess he FORGOT his own kid was kidnapped. Crime happens and sometimes there's nothing that can be done.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-08/wynn-says-paddock-was-a-customer-would-have-triggered-alarms

My wife and I are down in Vegas 2-4 times a year. Quite often we leave the do not disturb sign up. Its only when we are there for more than 4 days I let them clean the room. So yeah, very common i think for people not wanting room service. If the Wynn Casinos think they could have prevented this then god bless them. I sure as shit hope they are ready if they get some crazed rich lunatic stay at their place. I do not wish anybody or any business the kind of harm the likes of what just happened. Steve Wynn is not helping anything by making comments like this. Kinda like Mark Wahlbergs statement regarding 911 that if he had been on the plane shit would have gone down differently.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 08, 2017, 03:14:19 PM
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(https://78.media.tumblr.com/06a9699f06620e5149be4dc38ad62bbb/tumblr_oxiz0j8rL61wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eric2 on October 08, 2017, 03:17:22 PM


Man, that's horrific.

Honestly from what my friend told me, I am surprised they made it out alive and only scraped and bruised. My friend was extremly detailed in his telling of their ordeal. The gore and amount of suffering they saw and experienced in such a short time, i felt like i was there with them as he told me. I am so glad they made it out. Such a sad waste for all the others whom did not.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 08, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
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Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 08, 2017, 03:42:08 PM
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Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 08, 2017, 05:46:50 PM
Also...a big huge FUCK YOU to Steve Wynn for trying to make it seem like his casino would have caught on.
He's straight up lying by saying his security would have checked on the room SIMPLY because the guest had a ' DO NOT DISTURB' sign up for more than 12 hours.
Bullshit.
People come here all the time and check in an refuse room service right at the front desk upon arrival.
Happens every fucking day in every fucking casino.

Wynn/Encore are two of the most expensive properties in Vegas. If you have money to stay there, they're gonna cater to whatever u want.
Not wanting room service is fucking NORMAL.
He's not helping the casino industry one bit.
I guess he FORGOT his own kid was kidnapped. Crime happens and sometimes there's nothing that can be done.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-08/wynn-says-paddock-was-a-customer-would-have-triggered-alarms

QUESTION: The hallway camera he set up on the room service cart, right. Wouldn't he assume they'd come retrieve it soon after delivery?

Camera's on the cart, wired to his room. Wtf?

(No conspiracy horseshit please.)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 08, 2017, 05:50:48 PM
He also had a camera on the peephole on his door. He probably had the peephole cam just in case the service cart cam got moved/taken.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 08, 2017, 06:01:19 PM
He also had a camera on the peephole on his door. He probably had the peephole cam just in case the service cart cam got moved/taken.

Was there a room camera as well, or was only concerned with interruption?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Core on October 08, 2017, 06:14:30 PM
God guys this is so obviously a false flag operation meant to sensationalize the media for a couple weeks in order to cover up something else far more important happening elsewhere in the world. Despite the SEO gold that this news story is, it's just another shooting. While sad that it happened, it's to be expected in this political climate, which is increasingly becoming do or die in nature and more no holds barred. That anyone was surprised or shocked just goes to show how naive the common person is about the way the world works. There are so many damn holes in the official story, it sounds like a fucking conspiracy theory just listening to the news. Ironic I think.

My thoughts are that this is meant to cover something major happening in the south china sea regarding north korean/US relations. It is clear to me that NK is the powder keg that will set off the next globalist world war which will encompass the USA, China, Russia and inevitably all of these country's allies; most of the developed world. I would imagine that the US is sending more troops and ships to the region to prepare.

Look at yourselves, debating every nuance of this event as if it really matters. It doesn't- a ton of people got shot, and thats sad, but it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The media plays you again and again and you fall for it every fucking time, just like you fall for the govt's lies every time they stick a new 'saviour' up to tempt your vote. Republicans, Democrats.. It doesn't matter, they both play for the same team and that is the petrodollar upon which our nation's economy bases it's entire supposed prosperity. You guys are talking about cameras and guns and liberals and black murder rates.. But it doesn't matter. The show goes on with or without these issues, because they will conjure up yet another issue for them to pretend to fix (and end up fucking up) to con you once again.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 08, 2017, 07:17:48 PM
God guys this is so obviously a false flag operation meant to sensationalize the media for a couple weeks in order to cover up something else far more important happening elsewhere in the world. Despite the SEO gold that this news story is, it's just another shooting. While sad that it happened, it's to be expected in this political climate, which is increasingly becoming do or die in nature and more no holds barred. That anyone was surprised or shocked just goes to show how naive the common person is about the way the world works. There are so many damn holes in the official story, it sounds like a fucking conspiracy theory just listening to the news. Ironic I think.

My thoughts are that this is meant to cover something major happening in the south china sea regarding north korean/US relations. It is clear to me that NK is the powder keg that will set off the next globalist world war which will encompass the USA, China, Russia and inevitably all of these country's allies; most of the developed world. I would imagine that the US is sending more troops and ships to the region to prepare.

Look at yourselves, debating every nuance of this event as if it really matters. It doesn't- a ton of people got shot, and thats sad, but it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The media plays you again and again and you fall for it every fucking time, just like you fall for the govt's lies every time they stick a new 'saviour' up to tempt your vote. Republicans, Democrats.. It doesn't matter, they both play for the same team and that is the petrodollar upon which our nation's economy bases it's entire supposed prosperity. You guys are talking about cameras and guns and liberals and black murder rates.. But it doesn't matter. The show goes on with or without these issues, because they will conjure up yet another issue for them to pretend to fix (and end up fucking up) to con you once again.



Thanks for your input.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 08, 2017, 07:54:59 PM
QUESTION: The hallway camera he set up on the room service cart, right. Wouldn't he assume they'd come retrieve it soon after delivery?

Camera's on the cart, wired to his room. Wtf?

(No conspiracy horseshit please.)

I wondered about that as well. I don't remember how long his stay was but he probably knew from his time there how long it generally took for staff to come retrieve it and wasn't worried about it.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Never1AShow on October 08, 2017, 08:08:41 PM
Probably shoved it out into the hall a couple of minutes before the shooting started knowing that once it started no one would be moving around much.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 08, 2017, 08:08:51 PM
God guys this is so obviously a false flag operation meant to sensationalize the media for a couple weeks in order to cover up something else far more important happening elsewhere in the world. Despite the SEO gold that this news story is, it's just another shooting. While sad that it happened, it's to be expected in this political climate, which is increasingly becoming do or die in nature and more no holds barred. That anyone was surprised or shocked just goes to show how naive the common person is about the way the world works. There are so many damn holes in the official story, it sounds like a fucking conspiracy theory just listening to the news. Ironic I think.

My thoughts are that this is meant to cover something major happening in the south china sea regarding north korean/US relations. It is clear to me that NK is the powder keg that will set off the next globalist world war which will encompass the USA, China, Russia and inevitably all of these country's allies; most of the developed world. I would imagine that the US is sending more troops and ships to the region to prepare. In any case I doubt are troops will set foot there, we will obliterate them from the sky.

Look at yourselves, debating every nuance of this event as if it really matters. It doesn't- a ton of people got shot, and thats sad, but it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The media plays you again and again and you fall for it every fucking time, just like you fall for the govt's lies every time they stick a new 'saviour' up to tempt your vote. Republicans, Democrats.. It doesn't matter, they both play for the same team and that is the petrodollar upon which our nation's economy bases it's entire supposed prosperity. You guys are talking about cameras and guns and liberals and black murder rates.. But it doesn't matter. The show goes on with or without these issues, because they will conjure up yet another issue for them to pretend to fix (and end up fucking up) to con you once again.



You realize there are other media outlets outside of this country that would report that right? It doesn't appear that Tump is trying to hide anything when it comes to North Korea anyways. He's made his intentions quite clear. As far as troops, we have enough in south korea, japan and guam.  This won't be a ground war, we will obliterate them from the air and sea.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 08, 2017, 08:23:04 PM
Lol @ the people complaining that he "could buy 40+ guns". Hate to break it to you, but there are plenty of people who own 40-plus guns and none of them have committed mass murder much less one murder. There are plenty of firearms enthusiasts who are well within the right to own 20 + AR-15s you could have 20 AR-15 in 20 different caliber uppers or barrellengths or optics. He could nearly 20 different glocks completely stock. 20 different 1911's completely stock in different calibers and different sizes different capacities.

Punnishing the 99.999% who follow the law because of the .0000001% who don't and who are mentally ill is retarded. Some retard (literally a Retard) does something dumb so everybody else gets punished?

As far as rape fantasies? You have any idea hkw many WOMEN have rape fantasies?? At least a dude is paying a fucking prostitute to act it out and not actually fucking raping people for fuck's sake


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 08, 2017, 08:25:32 PM
Lol @ the people complaining that he "could buy 40+ guns". Hate to break it to you, but there are plenty of people who own 40-plus guns and none of them have committed mass murder much less one murder. There are plenty of firearms enthusiasts who are well within the right to own 20 + AR-15s you could have 20 AR-15 in 20 different caliber uppers or barrellengths or optics. He could nearly 20 different glocks completely stock. 20 different 1911's completely stock in different calibers and different sizes different capacities.

Punnishing the 99.999% who follow the law because of the .0000001% who don't and who are mentally ill is retarded. Some retard (literally a Retard) does something dumb so everybody else gets punished?

As far as rape fantasies? You have any idea hkw many WOMEN have rape fantasies?? At least a dude is paying a fucking prostitute to act it out and not actually fucking raping people for fuck's sake

Plus you only got 2 hands. One man can't fire 40 guns at once.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 08, 2017, 08:32:01 PM
3% of Americans own half the country's guns.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Twaddle on October 08, 2017, 08:41:34 PM
3% of Americans own half the country's guns.

97% of Americans own half the country's guns.   ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 08, 2017, 08:44:40 PM
Lol @ the people complaining that he "could buy 40+ guns". Hate to break it to you, but there are plenty of people who own 40-plus guns and none of them have committed mass murder much less one murder. There are plenty of firearms enthusiasts who are well within the right to own 20 + AR-15s you could have 20 AR-15 in 20 different caliber uppers or barrellengths or optics. He could nearly 20 different glocks completely stock. 20 different 1911's completely stock in different calibers and different sizes different capacities.

Punnishing the 99.999% who follow the law because of the .0000001% who don't and who are mentally ill is retarded. Some retard (literally a Retard) does something dumb so everybody else gets punished?

As far as rape fantasies? You have any idea hkw many WOMEN have rape fantasies?? At least a dude is paying a fucking prostitute to act it out and not actually fucking raping people for fuck's sake

ESFitness is making a lot of sense here.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 08, 2017, 08:46:24 PM
God guys this is so obviously a false flag operation meant to sensationalize the media for a couple weeks in order to cover up something else far more important happening elsewhere in the world. Despite the SEO gold that this news story is, it's just another shooting. While sad that it happened, it's to be expected in this political climate, which is increasingly becoming do or die in nature and more no holds barred. That anyone was surprised or shocked just goes to show how naive the common person is about the way the world works. There are so many damn holes in the official story, it sounds like a fucking conspiracy theory just listening to the news. Ironic I think.

My thoughts are that this is meant to cover something major happening in the south china sea regarding north korean/US relations. It is clear to me that NK is the powder keg that will set off the next globalist world war which will encompass the USA, China, Russia and inevitably all of these country's allies; most of the developed world. I would imagine that the US is sending more troops and ships to the region to prepare.

Look at yourselves, debating every nuance of this event as if it really matters. It doesn't- a ton of people got shot, and thats sad, but it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The media plays you again and again and you fall for it every fucking time, just like you fall for the govt's lies every time they stick a new 'saviour' up to tempt your vote. Republicans, Democrats.. It doesn't matter, they both play for the same team and that is the petrodollar upon which our nation's economy bases it's entire supposed prosperity. You guys are talking about cameras and guns and liberals and black murder rates.. But it doesn't matter. The show goes on with or without these issues, because they will conjure up yet another issue for them to pretend to fix (and end up fucking up) to con you once again.



Thanks god I'm not a moderator.. I have very little tolerance for sub human bullshit. This site is known for some stupid posts and ridiculous opinions, and then there is you. Isn't there an info wars site you can vistit?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Never1AShow on October 08, 2017, 08:49:13 PM
3% of Americans own half the country's guns.

Source?  Not disputing but I've never seen this claim before.  Also, that's 3% is still about 100,000 people, not an insignificant number to disarm all by itself, not even considering that these would likely be very very hard to disarm or the other couple hundred million.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 08, 2017, 08:56:14 PM
Thanks god I'm not a moderator.. I have very little tolerance for sub human bullshit. This site is known for some stupid posts and ridiculous opinions, and then there is you. Isn't there an info wars site you can vistit?

Majority of the board these days. Still enjoy your posts, though, one of very few.

Place has become a f'n special ed junkyard for sure.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 08, 2017, 09:04:44 PM
Source?  Not disputing but I've never seen this claim before.  Also, that's 3% is still about 100,000 people, not an insignificant number to disarm all by itself, not even considering that these would likely be very very hard to disarm or the other couple hundred million.

"Super owners" own 133,000,000 of the 265,000,000 firearms in the US.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/09/22/study-guns-owners-violence/90858752/


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Core on October 08, 2017, 09:05:07 PM
Thanks for your input.

Exactly the same type of response a liberal uses to shut someone up when they want to end discussion on a topic for fear of losing, regardless of whether they are right or wrong on that topic. You can't handle the reality of the situation.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 08, 2017, 09:07:26 PM
Majority of the board these days. Still enjoy your posts, though, one of very few.

Place has become a f'n special ed junkyard for sure.

I've been gone about 18 months and just recently came back.. so it hasn't been a frog in boiling water experience for me.. but jesus h Christ... it's sad. I think I joined in mid 2000's and I'm sure I'm a rookie to some. It has ebbed and flowed over the years but it's sad to witness what was once a pretty entertaining board with some interesting characters come to this. I don't even mind, in fact I look forward to some who disagree with me.. that's what I like.. some thought out arguments. I have altered my personal views throughout the years on some subjects based on some good points made here. There are still some great posters but some of the group need to be culled for the sake of the whole. Just my thoughts.   


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 08, 2017, 09:09:56 PM
QUESTION: The hallway camera he set up on the room service cart, right. Wouldn't he assume they'd come retrieve it soon after delivery?

Camera's on the cart, wired to his room. Wtf?

(No conspiracy horseshit please.)
I think Never1AShow is prob right. If Paddock didn't keep the cart in his room, there is the chance that it was just left there. Those carts are littered throughout most hotel hallways. Room service makes rounds collecting them 24/7. But there's gonna be times when they sit there for a bit until retrieved by staff.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 08, 2017, 09:10:37 PM
Plus you only got 2 hands. One man can't fire 40 guns at once.

it's like saying you're only allowed to own one car. there are plenty of car enthusiasts who own 5 or more Porsches, or 5 or more Ferrari's, or 20+ Ferrari's or whatever. some people like to collect guns and are absolutely well within their right to own as many goddam guns as they want.

i seriously do not grasp the absolute stupidity in the argument from people who complain about "owning 40 firearms", as if they have absolutely zero clue how sound when they say such ridiculous shit.....; especially MEN saying it. i don't know what's worse. men saying that shit, or the Kardashians complaining about gun ownership yet being SURROUNDED with 2 dozen ARMED SECURITY GUARDS whereever they go.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 08, 2017, 09:12:54 PM
it's like saying you're only allowed to own one car. there are plenty of car enthusiasts who own 5 or more Porsches, or 5 or more Ferrari's, or 20+ Ferrari's or whatever. some people like to collect guns and are absolutely well within their right to own as many goddam guns as they want.

i seriously do not grasp the absolute stupidity in the argument from people who complain about "owning 40 firearms", as if they have absolutely zero clue how sound when they say such ridiculous shit.....; especially MEN saying it. i don't know what's worse. men saying that shit, or the Kardashians complaining about gun ownership yet being SURROUNDED with 2 dozen ARMED SECURITY GUARDS whereever they go.

I see the reasoning behind it.. that you don't.. just means you don't


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 08, 2017, 09:29:21 PM
I've been gone about 18 months and just recently came back.. so it hasn't been a frog in boiling water experience for me.. but jesus h Christ... it's sad. I think I joined in mid 2000's and I'm sure I'm a rookie to some. It has ebbed and flowed over the years but it's sad to witness what was once a pretty entertaining board with some interesting characters come to this. I don't even mind, in fact I look forward to some who disagree with me.. that's what I like.. some thought out arguments. I have altered my personal views throughout the years on some subjects based on some good points made here. There are still some great posters but some of the group need to be culled for the sake of the whole. Just my thoughts.   

It is a mirror of society, not to mention the bodybuilding subculture is mostly made up of drug addicts, perverts and homosexuals.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 08, 2017, 09:33:23 PM
It is a mirror of society, not to mention the bodybuilding subculture is mostly made up of drug addicts, perverts and homosexuals.

I don't knowingly have any friends that are drug addicts or perverts, but I do have some awesome friends that happen to be homosexual.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 08, 2017, 09:35:01 PM
I don't knowingly have any friends that are drug addicts or perverts, but I do have some awesome friends that happen to be homosexual.

LOL, they're probably gay too!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 08, 2017, 09:47:10 PM
I don't knowingly have any friends that are drug addicts or perverts, but I do have some awesome friends that happen to be homosexual.

Both heterosexuals and homosexuals have their share of perverts.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 08, 2017, 09:49:55 PM
Both heterosexuals and homosexuals have their share of perverts.

No doubt..


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 08, 2017, 11:42:41 PM
Both heterosexuals and homosexuals have their share of perverts.

homosexuals by default are perverted so that is a false equivalent


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 08, 2017, 11:45:18 PM
homosexuals by default are perverted so that is a false equivalent

Agreed, homosexuals are far more likely to also be pedophiles.  Hence the popularity of the term pederast, men who love *boys*...

The fact that Agnostic007 has so many gay friends reminds me of the saying "birds of a feather flock together"...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Top Poodle on October 08, 2017, 11:48:29 PM
Agreed, homosexuals are far more likely to also be pedophiles.  Hence the popularity of the term pederast, men who love *boys*...

The fact that Agnostic007 has so many gay friends reminds me of the saying "birds of a feather flock together"...

even rangerboy gives credence to that fact, not theory but FACT, because he posts men who look like 12 year old boys

his defense is "oh don't worry babe he's 27, xoxoxo"

YES BUT HE LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING PREPUBESCENT CHILD

the sickness is obvious, if people only dare be brave enough to pull their heads out of the sand


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 09, 2017, 04:55:45 AM
Case solved:  he was on SSRI's.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 09, 2017, 10:10:34 AM
Case solved:  he was on SSRI's.

Big shock.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 09, 2017, 12:22:32 PM
" Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock bet up to $1 million a night while he roamed casinos in sweatpants and flip-flops, carrying around cocktails from his room because he didn't want to tip the waitresses."
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/las-vegas-gunman-had-valium-144940037.html

I dunno about this alleged tipping pattern when everybody in every hi-roller section said he was a known good tipper.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 09, 2017, 12:25:10 PM
" Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock bet up to $1 million a night while he roamed casinos in sweatpants and flip-flops, carrying around cocktails from his room because he didn't want to tip the waitresses."
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/las-vegas-gunman-had-valium-144940037.html

I dunno about this alleged tipping pattern when everybody in every hi-roller section said he was a known good tipper.


So someone of authority? was just commenting last night that this guy never drank when he was at the casinos.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 09, 2017, 12:34:12 PM
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Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Core on October 09, 2017, 12:42:57 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22281732_2014971045389819_7738187412707398564_n.jpg?oh=a5b77ef789d02d85ac388853029571d1&oe=5A74CDB9)

Thats exactly it.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 09, 2017, 12:47:03 PM
So someone of authority? was just commenting last night that this guy never drank when he was at the casinos.
I said the same thing---looks like he had different habits at different properties?
I do know first hand one employee that said he for sure did drink.
Who the fuck knows at this point?

  Extremely Conflicting Stories Reported on Stephen Paddock’s Alcohol Use
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/strange-extremely-conflicting-stories-reported-stephen-paddocks-alcohol-use/


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 09, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
I said the same thing---looks like he had different habits at different properties?
I do know first hand one employee that said he for sure did drink.
Who the fuck knows at this point?

  Extremely Conflicting Stories Reported on Stephen Paddock’s Alcohol Use
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/strange-extremely-conflicting-stories-reported-stephen-paddocks-alcohol-use/

Maybe just not while at "work". Sounds like he took his gambling seriously.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 09, 2017, 01:00:32 PM
" Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock bet up to $1 million a night while he roamed casinos in sweatpants and flip-flops, carrying around cocktails from his room because he didn't want to tip the waitresses."
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/las-vegas-gunman-had-valium-144940037.html

I dunno about this alleged tipping pattern when everybody in every hi-roller section said he was a known good tipper.


What difference does it make whether he was big tipper or not? It's irrelevant..


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 09, 2017, 01:24:20 PM
No..not of an importance but the article says he would pour his own drinks in his room to AVOID tipping the cocktail servers.

Meanwhile everybody says he's a known good tipper.
More conflicting news 'stories'..too many.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 09, 2017, 01:49:58 PM
No..not of an importance but the article says he would pour his own drinks in his room to AVOID tipping the cocktail servers.

Meanwhile everybody says he's a known good tipper.
More conflicting news 'stories'..too many.

Including that he was apolitcal...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 09, 2017, 02:14:46 PM
He bet up to a million a night.....Give me a fucking break.

If anything, that may be more of a motive than anything else. He lost everything, and realizing that his "lifestyle" was over, decided to end as many others as he possibly could.

This entire story does stink though.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 09, 2017, 02:21:09 PM
The media is trying to drum up any motive. They are all over the place. They are likely being pressured to determine a motive and they do not have much to go on, except random facts about the guys life--he gambled a lot, he drank, he got prostitutes, and he suffered from anxiety. Welcome to the world of millions of Americans.  ::) ::)  ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 09, 2017, 02:47:26 PM
The media is trying to drum up any motive. They are all over the place. They are likely being pressured to determine a motive and they do not have much to go on, except random facts about the guys life--he gambled a lot, he drank, he got prostitutes, and he suffered from anxiety. Welcome to the world of millions of Americans.  ::) ::)  ::) ::) ::)

I feel like it's the opposite and the FBI and the media are making sure no real motive comes out.

I have no evidence to support this, it's just a feeling that I'm getting.  I just distrust all these people so much at this point that it's hard to take anything they say at face value.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 09, 2017, 02:50:47 PM
I feel like it's the opposite and the FBI and the media are making sure no real motive comes out.

I have no evidence to support this, it's just a feeling that I'm getting.  I just distrust all these people so much at this point that it's hard to take anything they say at face value.

Perhaps they know the real motive and are throwing out cliche motives (gambling, anxiety, obsessive, drinking) to satisfy the masses. This likely seems like the case.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 09, 2017, 02:51:09 PM
The media is trying to drum up any motive. They are all over the place. They are likely being pressured to determine a motive and they do not have much to go on, except random facts about the guys life--he gambled a lot, he drank, he got prostitutes, and he suffered from anxiety. Welcome to the world of millions of Americans.  ::) ::)  ::) ::) ::)

(http://i.imgur.com/zGTEZ20.gif)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: m8 on October 09, 2017, 03:23:10 PM
Now they're going to blame benzos (Valium)  :D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 09, 2017, 03:38:14 PM
Now they're going to blame benzos (Valium)  :D

There really are no side effects (common ones) of Valium that would lead someone to a mass shooting. There are some rare serious side effects which may lead to violent behavior, but I doubt it.

The police are desperate for a motive.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 09, 2017, 03:48:54 PM
There really are no side effects (common ones) of Valium that would lead someone to a mass shooting. There are some rare serious side effects which may lead to violent behavior, but I doubt it.

The police are desperate for a motive.

Very generic theory that I heard on news today: 'most likely had an undiagnosed psychological disorder, which led to a mental breakdown.'



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 09, 2017, 03:49:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6uFXEjgX8Q


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Shizzo on October 09, 2017, 03:53:20 PM
Very generic theory that I heard on news today: 'most likely had an undiagnosed psychological disorder, which led to a mental breakdown.'


You can say that about anyone who does something stupid.

We have become a nation of lattes and excuses.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 09, 2017, 03:55:08 PM
You can say that about anyone who does something stupid.

We have become a nation of lattes and excuses.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. It was a generic explanation.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 09, 2017, 04:06:20 PM
Very generic theory that I heard on news today: 'most likely had an undiagnosed psychological disorder, which led to a mental breakdown.'



Haha lol. They are really reaching now.

What a vague, unsubstantiated comment.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 09, 2017, 05:11:51 PM
Mandalay Bay security guard was shot by Paddock through his(Paddock's) suite door BEFORE Paddock fired out windows ???

The gunman who attacked a country music concert in Las Vegas shot a security guard in the hotel before beginning his assault on the concertgoers, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Monday, a significant change to the timeline of the massacre that officials had previously given to the public.

Officials had previously said that gunman Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nev., shot Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos after Paddock had started shooting at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival from his 32nd-floor hotel suite on Oct. 1. ........................ .........

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 09, 2017, 05:15:45 PM
Mandalay Bay security guard was shot by Paddock through his(Paddock's) suite door BEFORE Paddock fired out windows ???

The gunman who attacked a country music concert in Las Vegas shot a security guard in the hotel before beginning his assault on the concertgoers, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Monday, a significant change to the timeline of the massacre that officials had previously given to the public.

Officials had previously said that gunman Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nev., shot Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos after Paddock had started shooting at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival from his 32nd-floor hotel suite on Oct. 1. ........................ .........

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html)

How many other statements that the authorities made will turn out to be false?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 09, 2017, 05:23:42 PM
How many other statements that the authorities made will turn out to be false?

It is always smartest to never waiver from what is initially thought to be the truth or have opinions/theories outside what the corporate media has established  :D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 09, 2017, 05:30:49 PM
How many other statements that the authorities made will turn out to be false?

The media is a shit storm. How can anyone watch/listen to the news and still take it seriously?  ??? ???  ??? ??? ???

I pretty much do not follow any news. Your time is better spent reading something that is more meaningful, i.e., reading about science, technology, medicine, etc. I mean, I want to gouge out my ear drums after watching/listening to any news or social media outlet.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: m8 on October 09, 2017, 05:37:48 PM
There really are no side effects (common ones) of Valium that would lead someone to a mass shooting. There are some rare serious side effects which may lead to violent behavior, but I doubt it.

The police are desperate for a motive.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/09/us/las-vegas-stephen-paddock-deposition/index.html

He said he was prescribed Valium "for anxiousness" by Nevada internist Steven P. Winkler. It was unclear how often he took the drug, but he estimated that he had 10 or 15 pills remaining in a bottle of 60 that were prescribed a year and a half earlier.
Rage, aggressiveness and irritability are among the possible side effects of taking diazepam -- better known as Valium, according to a manufacturer of the drug. It is not known when Paddock last took the drug.

 :D here we go


Coming next: Paddock listened to death/black metal


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 09, 2017, 05:45:38 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/09/us/las-vegas-stephen-paddock-deposition/index.html

He said he was prescribed Valium "for anxiousness" by Nevada internist Steven P. Winkler. It was unclear how often he took the drug, but he estimated that he had 10 or 15 pills remaining in a bottle of 60 that were prescribed a year and a half earlier.
Rage, aggressiveness and irritability are among the possible side effects of taking diazepam -- better known as Valium, according to a manufacturer of the drug. It is not known when Paddock last took the drug.

 :D here we go


Coming next: Paddock listened to death/black metal

So, he took roughly 45-50 Valiums in a 1 1/2 year period. That's nothing. The media is REACHING!!!! ha, yes, next they will be saying that he listened to Deicide, Immortal and Emperor!

Typical side effects:
Sedation
Slowed breathing and heart rate
Memory loss
Slower movements
Drowsiness
Poor concentration
Lack of coordination
Muscle weakness
Vertigo
Possibly slower reaction time and impaired driving skills

Rare side effects:
Rage
Aggression



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Never1AShow on October 09, 2017, 06:21:07 PM
Mandalay Bay security guard was shot by Paddock through his(Paddock's) suite door BEFORE Paddock fired out windows ???

The gunman who attacked a country music concert in Las Vegas shot a security guard in the hotel before beginning his assault on the concertgoers, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Monday, a significant change to the timeline of the massacre that officials had previously given to the public.

Officials had previously said that gunman Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nev., shot Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos after Paddock had started shooting at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival from his 32nd-floor hotel suite on Oct. 1. ........................ .........

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html)

The article also says they're revising the timeline when he first checked in to three days earlier Sept 25th.

Imagine being this poor security guard just going up there to check on a door alarm in some guest room and running into this?  Crazy.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 09, 2017, 07:24:53 PM
He bet up to a million a night.....Give me a fucking break.

If anything, that may be more of a motive than anything else. He lost everything, and realizing that his "lifestyle" was over, decided to end as many others as he possibly could.

A million dollars in a nite is MORE than possible. It happens.....alot.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 09, 2017, 07:26:03 PM
Here is the ORIGINAL TIMELINE:


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 09, 2017, 07:26:52 PM
And now the NEW timeline


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 09, 2017, 07:29:52 PM
Shit fucken STINKS TO HI HEAVEN.

The polive new for the START where the shooter was cuz he called it in on his radio.
The police didnt have to "FIGURE OUT WHERE THE SHOOTER WAS"  cuz as soon as the security offer was shot he called dispatch and told them of his EXACT location.
The police knew exactly where they were going--Z E R O guess work involved.

SOmething aint right here....and I dont thin kit's the police lying---thye're being told what to say by the FBI.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: JCL on October 09, 2017, 07:42:26 PM
Shit fucken STINKS TO HI HEAVEN.

The polive new for the START where the shooter was cuz he called it in on his radio.
The police didnt have to "FIGURE OUT WHERE THE SHOOTER WAS"  cuz as soon as the security offer was shot he called dispatch and told them of his EXACT location.
The police knew exactly where they were going--Z E R O guess work involved.

SOmething aint right here....and I dont thin kit's the police lying---thye're being told what to say by the FBI.

You're an idiot.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 09, 2017, 07:48:00 PM
Just watch the video supposedly from that anonymous group that they hatch the Las Vegas police departments servers or some shit and they say "Paddock was an undercover FBI agent participating arms deals supplying isis terrorists with weapons similar to The Fast and Furious deal and the terrorist learned of the setup or whatever killed Paddock and carried out the attack anyways and fled the scene. And the FBI is keeping everything under wraps


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 09, 2017, 08:02:56 PM
Just watch the video supposedly from that anonymous group that they hatch the Las Vegas police departments servers or some shit and they say "Paddock was an undercover FBI agent participating arms deals supplying isis terrorists with weapons similar to The Fast and Furious deal and the terrorist learned of the setup or whatever killed Paddock and carried out the attack anyways and fled the scene. And the FBI is keeping everything under wraps

That theory has been going around on 4chan for over a week now...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 09, 2017, 08:03:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2uEKUc0_Vc


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 09, 2017, 08:09:06 PM
From watching Donnie Brasco and The departed, an agent deep in undercover can take years and years in that life to pass it off.

All that money gambling could have very well been tax payer money 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Never1AShow on October 09, 2017, 08:12:33 PM
You're an idiot.

Well he is correct that the security guard would have immediately radioed his dispatch once any shot was fired.  Dispatch should have then called 911. 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 09, 2017, 08:52:15 PM
Just watch the video supposedly from that anonymous group that they hatch the Las Vegas police departments servers or some shit and they say "Paddock was an undercover FBI agent participating arms deals supplying isis terrorists with weapons similar to The Fast and Furious deal and the terrorist learned of the setup or whatever killed Paddock and carried out the attack anyways and fled the scene. And the FBI is keeping everything under wraps

saying that's the reason for the video cameras and stuff. to get the isis fellas on camera.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: tres_taco_combo on October 09, 2017, 09:12:04 PM
Just watch the video supposedly from that anonymous group that they hatch the Las Vegas police departments servers or some shit and they say "Paddock was an undercover FBI agent participating arms deals supplying isis terrorists with weapons similar to The Fast and Furious deal and the terrorist learned of the setup or whatever killed Paddock and carried out the attack anyways and fled the scene. And the FBI is keeping everything under wraps

the fuck? link


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 09, 2017, 09:15:37 PM
Sting operations usually always have agents and equipment next door to rush in at any moment.

And he had booth rooms booked

saying that's the reason for the video cameras and stuff. to get the isis fellas on camera.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 09, 2017, 09:21:45 PM
the fuck? link

Dunno how to link it. Was sent to me on fb


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 09, 2017, 09:24:05 PM
In a normal situation don't you think buy now a week later they have released video by now? Fuck for 9/11 they had airport pics of the terrorists... And this was in a fucken casino with cameras everywhere

And they sure as fuck released the crime scene pics quickly


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 09, 2017, 09:26:46 PM
In a normal situation don't you think buy now a week later they have released video by now? Fuck for 9/11 they had airport pics of the terrorists... And this was in a fucken casino with cameras everywhere

And they sure as fuck released the crime scene pics quickly

Is a little fishy that the Virginia tech shooting investigation was pretty simple. And like you said the Las Vegas shooting with all the cameras and they don't know shit. Something seems off. Especially with LE changing their story every other day.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 09, 2017, 09:27:19 PM
 :D

https://streamable.com/z6ymq

Honky hits bongo, with an ACTUAL BONGO!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 09, 2017, 09:51:27 PM
Is a little fishy that the Virginia tech gook shooting investigation was pretty simple. And like you said the Las Vegas shooting with all the cameras and they don't know shit. Something seems off. Especially with LE changing their story every other day.

And with ISIS claiming responsibility right away. Word must travel fast to the desert teepee's of Syria lol

And the reports of these shooters in other locations. Could've been the isis fellas retreating.

Who knows... Could also be just somebody spreading a rumor for shits n giggles and seeing how far it'll spread. Since if that hacker group Anonymous actually hacked their databases you think they would take screenshots and post them or something. That be a shitload of publicity for that group


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 09, 2017, 10:15:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ukY_Qy4TCQ

this is the only video where someone else says there was a 4th floor window missing. I KNOW! i saw a video/picture the day after that wasn't zoomed wayyy the fuck in on the 32nd floor and there was clearly a window gone on a much lower floor.

i've yet to see any pics/windows since though


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Never1AShow on October 09, 2017, 10:27:43 PM
Sting operations usually always have agents and equipment next door to rush in at any moment.

And he had booth rooms booked


Agree.  There would have been 50+ people who'd have known about it if it were a sting.  No way such a huge screw up wouldn't have leaked out by now, plus family and friends (no one keeps anything secret).  This is barking up the wrong tree.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 09, 2017, 11:20:20 PM
Investigators just changed a key part of the timeline in the Las Vegas shooting

Police investigating the Las Vegas shooting have updated their timeline of the events leading up to the massacre that unfolded on October 1.

Investigators in Las Vegas now believe a security guard who was the first to encounter gunman Stephen Paddock did so at 9:59 p.m. local time -- six minutes before Paddock began firing on the crowd of 22,000 concertgoers at the Route 91 country music festival, killing 58 people and injuring hundreds more.

The security guard, Jesus Campos, was shot in the leg by some of the more than 200 rounds that Paddock fired into the hallway outside of his 32nd-floor suite at the Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino. "Immediately upon being injured, he notified security," Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said of the hotel guard at a Monday evening briefing.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/investigators-just-changed-a-key-part-of-the-timeline-in-the-las-vegas-shooting/ar-AAtdq5H?li=AAgfYrC



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 10, 2017, 04:22:15 AM
You're an idiot.

Why?
You come here and make thta foolish statemnt with no reason.
What I have outlined are F A C T S .

Add something of value or go fuck off.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 10, 2017, 05:30:56 AM
Shit fucken STINKS TO HI HEAVEN.

The polive new for the START where the shooter was cuz he called it in on his radio.
The police didnt have to "FIGURE OUT WHERE THE SHOOTER WAS"  cuz as soon as the security offer was shot he called dispatch and told them of his EXACT location.
The police knew exactly where they were going--Z E R O guess work involved.

SOmething aint right here....and I dont thin kit's the police lying---thye're being told what to say by the FBI.

You're a fagg0t.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SuperTed on October 10, 2017, 06:48:04 AM
Investigators just changed a key part of the timeline in the Las Vegas shooting

Police investigating the Las Vegas shooting have updated their timeline of the events leading up to the massacre that unfolded on October 1.

Investigators in Las Vegas now believe a security guard who was the first to encounter gunman Stephen Paddock did so at 9:59 p.m. local time -- six minutes before Paddock began firing on the crowd of 22,000 concertgoers at the Route 91 country music festival, killing 58 people and injuring hundreds more.

The security guard, Jesus Campos, was shot in the leg by some of the more than 200 rounds that Paddock fired into the hallway outside of his 32nd-floor suite at the Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino. "Immediately upon being injured, he notified security," Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said of the hotel guard at a Monday evening briefing.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/investigators-just-changed-a-key-part-of-the-timeline-in-the-las-vegas-shooting/ar-AAtdq5H?li=AAgfYrC


The entire story is turning into a clusterfuck. I'm not in agreement with what the conspiracy theorists say but there sure is a lot of holes in what the authorities are now saying.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 10, 2017, 06:48:55 AM
The entire story is turning into a clusterfuck. I'm not in agreement with what the conspiracy theorists say but there sure is a lot of holes in what the authorities are now saying.

yep, like 9/11, but when you ask people what the holes are they have no fucking idea...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: stuntmovie on October 10, 2017, 05:48:33 PM
I drove by the lot in  which the event was held and there are still investigators all over the place with the road on the south side and the east side closed to traffic.

They had even  blocked off the parking lot about 100 yards east of the event site .... in which I assume they have been looking for 'bullet-paths'.

And this town has really performed well with blood and money donations and every other way possible.

The Caesars Palace company has made a $24,000,000 donation and many others are following suit.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 10, 2017, 07:36:22 PM
Guys ...this story and new timeline has grown legs of it's own.
Later on tonight after I get a phone call I'll try and explain what the people in the know at that property are saying.

Something is wrong with this investigation.
no conspiracy---just oddities.
BAD oddities that look like a coverup.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 10, 2017, 07:37:23 PM
So now it looks like the security guard was shot before the mass shooting. There was 6 minutes from the time
Of that shooting to the massacre. 6 minutes the police had but they pussyfooted around and it cost 59 people their lives. Sad.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 10, 2017, 07:50:27 PM
The problem is is that the security officer shot told them EXACTLY where he was...on floor 32.

The police converged and cleared floor 31?????? FIRST?

soMETHING AINT RIGHT.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 10, 2017, 08:02:45 PM
The problem is is that the security officer shot told them EXACTLY where he was...on floor 32.

The police converged and cleared floor 31?????? FIRST?

soMETHING AINT RIGHT.

It makes sense to meet up on 31st get the squad ready and take the stairs up one floor.

Bottom line is it looks like the police botched their response and are trying to cover it up, and doing a poor job at that.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 10, 2017, 08:05:51 PM
It makes sense to meet up on 31st get the squad ready and take the stairs up one floor.

Bottom line is it looks like the police botched their response and are trying to cover it up, and doing a poor job at that.

possible.. but lets see what comes out in the wash


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 10, 2017, 08:25:58 PM
Not that it matters, but 4th floor's been thoroughly debunked:

http://www.snopes.com/second-gunman-shoot-fourth-floor-mandalay-bay/


Magic window's a small hurdle, sure, but we also got the "muzzle flash" flickering well before any gunshots are heard. Minor setback is all, carry on.  


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 10, 2017, 09:29:45 PM
Cops are covering up thier slow response at the least, possibly more but the more they change the story the more the disinformation will hide the actual events.

They controlled the original info release that people absorbed on facebook and MSM...lone shooter, crazy, no international ties. After that initial burst of info and everybody gets their facebook thoughts and prayers and gofundme accounts up....they can change whatever they like. People have the attention span of a fly.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 10, 2017, 09:30:46 PM
Not that it matters, but 4th floor's been thoroughly debunked:

http://www.snopes.com/second-gunman-shoot-fourth-floor-mandalay-bay/


Magic window's a small hurdle, sure, but we also got the "muzzle flash" flickering well before any gunshots are heard. Minor setback is all, carry on.  

Sure, but lets see what comes out in the wash.

Getbigs guns and demolitions-expert Matt C should be able to chime in on this and give a clearer picture.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 10, 2017, 09:33:33 PM
Cops are covering up thier slow response at the least, possibly more but the more they change the story the more the disinformation will hide the actual events.

They controlled the original info release that people absorbed on facebook and MSM...lone shooter, crazy, no international ties. After that initial burst of info and everybody gets their facebook thoughts and prayers and gofundme accounts up....they can change whatever they like. People have the attention span of a fly.

This is what I eluded to at the beginning. Law enforcement has to weigh getting info out to the public, news agencies as soon as possible, with the reality that some of the info early on may not be accurate and lead to speculation of a cover up by those not familiar with the process. It is a sad reality but the honey boo boo public isn't capable of understanding what goes into a large event like this. Cops are damned if they do, damned if they don't


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 10, 2017, 09:55:09 PM
Forensic acoustic proof of SECOND shooter in the Las Vegas massacre

Go to 14 min for the location reveal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxmEFeKy8aI


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 10, 2017, 10:03:32 PM
Love these proof videos... 9/11 and sandy hook really brought them to the fore front. Investigators HATE second shooter incidents and they will lie and scheme to cover them up. I heard that they lose 15% of their pay if 2 shooters are involved in a mass murder


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 10, 2017, 10:05:32 PM
Love these proof videos... 9/11 and sandy hook really brought them to the fore front. Investigators HATE second shooter incidents and they will lie and scheme to cover them up. I heard that they lose 15% of their pay if 2 shooters are involved in a mass murder

unfortunately none of them ever demonstrate proof.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 10, 2017, 10:07:58 PM
Pretty confident this guy would run intellectual circles around both of you dumbdumbs.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 10, 2017, 10:29:10 PM
Marilou Danley Is Lying=> Neighbors Say She Moved ALL OF HER BELONGINGS Out of House in August

A 68-year-old neighbor of Stephen Paddock said she saw the girlfriend Marilou Danley moving her belongings from the home in early August.
She filled up her car with her belongings and even tied some things to the roof of the car.

Marilou Danley is lying to authorities.

Mrs Page also revealed how Paddock, 64, fled town after buying a new silver minivan at the start of August.

And just two weeks later she said she watched as girlfriend Marilou Danley packed her things into her car before also leaving.

Mrs Page added: “I remember at the start of August looking out of my window and seeing Stephen pull up in a brand new huge silver minivan.

“But just a few days later he left the house in it and was never seen again.

“I thought the whole situation was even weirder when two weeks later I then look out of my window again to see Marilou stuffing her car full of all her belongings.

“Over the course of three or four days it was like she was moving her entire life out of the house.

“She packed so much stuff not only was her car full, but it was also tied to the top of her car.

“After a few days of packing she too pulled out of the driveway and was never seen again.

“It was all very strange.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/neighbors-marilou-danley-lying-moved-belongings-house-august/


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 10, 2017, 10:29:24 PM
unfortunately none of them ever demonstrate proof.



On the bright side they offer about the same amount of proof as the official story...which is the reason they exist in the first place.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 10, 2017, 10:39:50 PM
Marilou Danley Is Lying=> Neighbors Say She Moved ALL OF HER BELONGINGS Out of House in August

A 68-year-old neighbor of Stephen Paddock said she saw the girlfriend Marilou Danley moving her belongings from the home in early August.
She filled up her car with her belongings and even tied some things to the roof of the car.

Marilou Danley is lying to authorities.

Mrs Page also revealed how Paddock, 64, fled town after buying a new silver minivan at the start of August.

And just two weeks later she said she watched as girlfriend Marilou Danley packed her things into her car before also leaving.

Mrs Page added: “I remember at the start of August looking out of my window and seeing Stephen pull up in a brand new huge silver minivan.

“But just a few days later he left the house in it and was never seen again.

“I thought the whole situation was even weirder when two weeks later I then look out of my window again to see Marilou stuffing her car full of all her belongings.

“Over the course of three or four days it was like she was moving her entire life out of the house.

“She packed so much stuff not only was her car full, but it was also tied to the top of her car.

“After a few days of packing she too pulled out of the driveway and was never seen again.

“It was all very strange.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/neighbors-marilou-danley-lying-moved-belongings-house-august/
Gee, maybe that's why he wired her $100,000 to BUY a home for her and her family.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 10, 2017, 10:41:43 PM
Gee, maybe that's why he wired her $100,000 to BUY a home for her and her family.

It contradicts her previous story completely. 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 11, 2017, 03:56:12 AM
unfortunately none of them ever demonstrate proof.

You would say this no matter what evidence was put before you.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 11, 2017, 04:43:21 AM
Why did they close the airport in Vegas? Was this so no one could fly out? Is this suspicious?  ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 11, 2017, 04:45:13 AM
How much does 3 splits pay? ???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 11, 2017, 04:59:37 AM
Authorities are now saying Paddock/patsy used a freight elevator to bring all the ammo into the hotel. 

Where is all the Mandalan Bay security camera footage of this stuff?  I want to see it.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 11, 2017, 06:37:48 AM
How much money are these victims to going to pocket?  I've seen stories of gofundme pages of $30 million and $10 million, plus all sorts of benefit concerts and then some individuals have their own gofundme pages of close to $1 million.

It's not like these people lost their homes and belongings.  What's the money actually for? Is it a way for people to pay for their guilt?  Sort of like a tiding you pay to a church?

Seems like families of these people are going to end up with a $1 million plus and who knows if they have life insurance etc...

Poor fucks that get shot randomly outside of a 7/11 get jack shit.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 11, 2017, 08:15:39 PM
Why did they close the airport in Vegas? Was this so no one could fly out? Is this suspicious?  ???

Not to me. If they hoped to identify any additional shooters or suspects, they certainly wouldn't want them to leave the state


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 11, 2017, 11:53:29 PM
Those boys are at it again. They were attempting to break into Eric's email last night. Now they're texting his mother trying to get the answer to the security question.  :D

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/13c3b52f6a697e73990fb181b04c17b8/tumblr_oxp6yrfVDD1wd3uyro1_1280.png)

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/c2fcc7f80e9c8237d1a7529d7eda5115/tumblr_oxp6zhaReU1wd3uyro1_540.png)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 12, 2017, 02:43:38 AM
"ABC News reports that Mandalay Bay did not call police after security guard was shot"

http://www.ktnv.com/news/las-vegas-shooting/abc-news-mandalay-bay-didnt-call-police-when-security-guard-was-shot-by-stephen-paddock

The lawyers for the victims are super happy about this.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Never1AShow on October 12, 2017, 06:19:38 AM
Good points made in this article by Ann Coulter.  Why are they claiming he's making money at video poker?  That is nonsensical.

https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2017/10/11/media-begging-us-for-conspiracy-theories-on-las-vegas-n2393898


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 12, 2017, 06:32:37 AM
Now people are trying to sue the MGM.  Fucking america.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 12, 2017, 06:43:09 AM
Good points made in this article by Ann Coulter.  Why are they claiming he's making money at video poker?  That is nonsensical.

https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2017/10/11/media-begging-us-for-conspiracy-theories-on-las-vegas-n2393898


Good article


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SuperTed on October 12, 2017, 06:48:11 AM
Good points made in this article by Ann Coulter.  Why are they claiming he's making money at video poker?  That is nonsensical.

https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2017/10/11/media-begging-us-for-conspiracy-theories-on-las-vegas-n2393898


I don't think he was making money gambling but he was probably breaking even or only losing at a small rate - which allowed him to continue with the lifestyle. He had already made his millions before that. The changing timelines has created confusion to the official story though.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 12, 2017, 07:25:58 AM
At this point, we will never know the truth. Anything they put out now will be suspicious.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: ESFitness on October 12, 2017, 10:14:57 AM
Those boys are at it again. They were attempting to break into Eric's email last night. Now they're texting his mother trying to get the answer to the security question.  :D

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/13c3b52f6a697e73990fb181b04c17b8/tumblr_oxp6yrfVDD1wd3uyro1_1280.png)

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/c2fcc7f80e9c8237d1a7529d7eda5115/tumblr_oxp6zhaReU1wd3uyro1_540.png)

Eric who? That ain't my number and sure. As gel ain't my MOTHER lol


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 12, 2017, 10:18:22 AM
Eric who? That ain't my number and sure. As gel ain't my MOTHER lol

Eric Paddock, his brother.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 12, 2017, 10:21:49 AM
Eric who? That ain't my number and sure. As gel ain't my MOTHER lol

The shooters brother, you dope.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 12, 2017, 11:02:17 AM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/944cf7af671c2aef7e23088149dd3812/tumblr_oxq1z4GpKZ1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/f49892f0f9987bbe33cea11d3c66c259/tumblr_oxq1zqgmMY1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 12, 2017, 11:12:38 AM
I am upset that so many people here are thinking for themselves and listening to alternative media instead of letting this guy filter their news.   >:(     ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 12, 2017, 11:20:31 AM
Face of a degenerate.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637298.0;attach=746808;image)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 12, 2017, 11:40:02 AM
Same guy from Tropicana footage following strike team.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/80ca703171e3cf17d8789aa428fcd111/tumblr_oxq3ruQcZ21wd3uyro1_540.jpg)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 12, 2017, 11:41:14 AM
Same guy from Tropicana footage following strike team.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/80ca703171e3cf17d8789aa428fcd111/tumblr_oxq3ruQcZ21wd3uyro1_540.jpg)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/1yvoDVJQsTfHi/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 12, 2017, 11:50:01 AM
So apparently Mr. Paddock was gambling up until about 15 minutes before the shooting. I got to admire his dedication to his addiction.  ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: dj181 on October 12, 2017, 12:05:16 PM
So apparently Mr. Paddock was gambling up until about 15 minutes before the shooting. I got to admire his dedication to his addiction.  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N57SxyxUhTQ


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Taffin on October 12, 2017, 12:13:10 PM
Eric who? That ain't my number and sure. As gel ain't my MOTHER lol

Yeah, but is that your.... ....

....you know what?  Fuggedaboudit...  :D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 12, 2017, 12:24:56 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/1yvoDVJQsTfHi/giphy.gif)

Shut up you dumb cu nt, your country is an absolute nightmare because of people like you.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/d5d3c9f19c91f95100a6a66a314cf41c/tumblr_oxq4hrA8Uy1wd3uyro1_1280.png)

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/b46fc5a6b9a027dbc1459d6ed4544a32/tumblr_oxq4iolXgD1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)

Where "Be there" lives your children will be suspended for refusing to go on a "cultural" field trip to a mosque to learn how to be a muslim.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/6721d9a34f268799b92ab16b52a48990/tumblr_oxq4exNBuV1wd3uyro1_1280.jpg)

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/627ee140470ceb29f2b190e8305814df/tumblr_oxq4gdzVAV1wd3uyro1_1280.png)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2nlIfn8tNA

This is a man who I'm sure you're familiar with who's proud to be british and has the balls to speak out and confront imam's preaching jihad in the local mosques and rapist scum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAu-PXDhLX0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgD_xZIrPJo

Get fucked.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 12, 2017, 12:34:15 PM
Shut up you dumb cu nt, your country is an absolute nightmare because of people like you.



I dont give a fuck about my country, I don't have any national pride at all.

I look out for me and my family.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 12, 2017, 12:38:17 PM
I dont give a fuck about my country, I don't have any national pride at all.

I look out for me and my family.



You're even dumber than I thought.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 12, 2017, 12:41:26 PM
You're even dumber than I thought.

why are you proud of something you had no say in?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Las Vegas on October 12, 2017, 12:54:10 PM
why are you proud of something you had no say in?

Did you mean had, or have?   :)


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 12, 2017, 12:56:33 PM
why are you proud of something you had no say in?

Conversing with the mentally challenged is a pointless endeavor.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 12, 2017, 12:56:54 PM
Did you mean had, or have?   :)
either works, depends if you are born there.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 12, 2017, 01:11:12 PM
I should add that my father was born in the UK and had dual citizenship. He moved back to Europe two years ago, says "it's changing."


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 12, 2017, 01:12:54 PM
I should add that my father was born in the UK and had dual citizenship. He moved back to Europe two years ago, says "it's changing."

As is Europe......

so where are you from and why are you proud if it?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 12, 2017, 01:56:39 PM
I dont give a fuck about my country, I don't have any national pride at all.

None of you do, that's why you are letting your country get flushed down the toilet.

I look out for me and my family.

You're doing it wrong.  Let us teach you how to America before it's too late.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 12, 2017, 02:02:22 PM
None of you do, that's why you are letting your country get flushed down the toilet.

You're doing it wrong.  Let us teach you how to America before it's too late.

But, in general, even most Americans don't care about America.

Americans maybe care about one or two issues that may directly affect them, but that's about it. They have national pride to the extent it lets them keep their guns (republicans) and allows for abortion (democrats). I really don't consider that true national pride. True patriotic pride has truly fallen by the way side.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Las Vegas on October 12, 2017, 02:10:05 PM
But, in general, even most Americans don't care about America.

Americans maybe care about one or two issues that may directly affect them, but that's about it. They have national pride to the extent it lets them keep their guns (republicans) and allows for abortion (democrats). I really don't consider that true national pride. True patriotic pride has truly fallen by the way side.

Maybe they'll "care" when it's in ashes.  Idiots.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: dj181 on October 12, 2017, 02:12:17 PM
wasnt it wooooo who termed the phrase americants

pretty funny shit 😂


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 12, 2017, 02:19:59 PM
But, in general, even most Americans don't care about America.


I would have agreed with you if Trump had not been elected.

It's just the liberals and leftists that don't care about America.  Nihilistic moral relativists.  Cultural Marxists.  They see themselves as citizens of the world.  Oh, how wrong they are.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 12, 2017, 02:29:54 PM
I would have agreed with you if Trump had not been elected.

It's just the liberals and leftists that don't care about America.  Nihilistic moral relativists.  Cultural Marxists.  They see themselves as citizens of the world.  Oh, how wrong they are.

But caring about America is a lot more than nominating X person for president. Casting a ballot one time every 4 years, in my opinion, is not an indication of national pride.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 12, 2017, 02:38:57 PM
None of you do, that's why you are letting your country get flushed down the toilet.

You're doing it wrong.  Let us teach you how to America before it's too late.

yes, lets use America as an example of how to behave, constantly warmongering and going where they are not wanted.

If the middle east was stable they wouldnt want to come over here.

Leave the fuckers alone.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: dj181 on October 12, 2017, 02:42:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkEs02-ciCA


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 12, 2017, 05:23:32 PM
yes, lets use America as an example of how to behave, constantly warmongering and going where they are not wanted.

If the middle east was stable they wouldnt want to come over here.

Leave the fuckers alone.

Yeah, the middle east would be a fucking utopia if not for those mean old Yanks interfering.  Haha


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 12, 2017, 05:28:48 PM
Yeah, the middle east would be a fucking utopia if not for those mean old Yanks interfering.  Haha

I kind of agree with Be There on this. No the Middle East absolutely would not be a Utopia, but if we had just stayed out of there then the Muslim rapeugees would have had stable countries and wouldn't have needed to go ruin most of Europe.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 12, 2017, 05:37:19 PM
I kind of agree with Be There on this. No the Middle East absolutely would not be a Utopia, but if we had just stayed out of there then the Muslim rapeugees would have had stable countries and wouldn't have needed to go ruin most of Europe.

I'm going to respectfully disagree with you guys.  When someone is a war with you, you don't get to decide to not be at war with them.

In a perfect world I'd completely isolate the middle east, let it implode on itself, and refuse to let any of them leave.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 12, 2017, 08:50:08 PM
I dont give a fuck about my country, I don't have any national pride at all.

I look out for me and my family.



Then you are a coward and an idiot.

How are you going to protect your family when your country goes to hell.



Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 12, 2017, 10:45:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCIHXi4RdaQ


No set up needed just listen


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 12, 2017, 10:47:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCIHXi4RdaQ


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 12, 2017, 11:02:58 PM
I'm no expert but to my ears it sounds like 3 separate sounds.  The original shots, the echo, and some bullets ricocheting off of the ground close to where the camera is recording.

I don't hear anything that conclusively tells me that there was two shooters.  The ricochets are not going to match up with the sound of the bullets being fired because he's spaying them around so not all the bullets are going to be hitting close to where the camera can pick the sound.  Plus some of them presumably hit people.  Either way it's fucked up. RIP to the victims.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 12, 2017, 11:14:07 PM
Props to those brave individuals doing cpr out in the open when rounds are still being fired.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 12, 2017, 11:29:44 PM
Any truth to the rumor that Podesta's son in law is FBI on scene and standing by LV Sheriff in pressers?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 13, 2017, 12:20:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCIHXi4RdaQ


Thanks


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: dj181 on October 13, 2017, 12:25:31 AM
according to gayvid dicke thia could have been a mind control thing by the americant government in order to control yall even more

Step 1: create fear to ease control potental

Step 2: provide the security (control of you alls) to "feel" safe

fuck dat noise


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 13, 2017, 12:35:59 AM
according to gayvid dicke thia could have been a mind control thing by the americant government in order to control yall even more

Step 1: create fear to ease control potental

Step 2: provide the security (control of you alls) to "feel" safe

fuck dat noise

Please educate yourself.  Governments try to CONTROL society all the time. 

Creating acts of terror to control the people is documented mainstream history.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 13, 2017, 01:05:22 AM
Please educate yourself.  Governments try to CONTROL society all the time. 

Creating acts of terror to control the people is documented mainstream history.
so whats the ultimate goal?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 13, 2017, 01:19:07 AM
so whats the ultimate goal?


The goal differs depending on the level of the person involved.

At the bottom level, it may be a desire to climb the ladder of success.

Mid level, to maintain power.

Top level.......    to degrade Ethno Europeans and turn their lands into shit holes. 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 13, 2017, 01:30:31 AM

The goal differs depending on the level of the person involved.

At the bottom level, it may be a desire to climb the ladder of success.

Mid level, to maintain power.

Top level.......    to degrade Ethno Europeans and turn their lands into shit holes. 

so they will be in control of loads of shitholes???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 13, 2017, 01:37:13 AM
so they will be in control of loads of shitholes???

So they will have world supremacy, yes.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 13, 2017, 01:52:04 AM
So they will have world supremacy, yes.



why would supremacy of a shit hole be anything to be proud of?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 13, 2017, 01:59:34 AM


why would supremacy of a shit hole be anything to be proud of?

ask your mother


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 13, 2017, 02:06:47 AM
ask your mother
and your theory now falls flat so you resort to an insult...


There is no end goal, we are all just floating along randomly hoping for the best.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 13, 2017, 02:10:04 AM
and your theory now falls flat so you resort to an insult...


There is no end goal, we are all just floating along randomly hoping for the best.

I answered you with a silly answer cos  you are clearly trolling.

I notice this is your style...

1) Ask a lot of silly questions that only an idiot couldn't grasp.
2) Keep asking stupid questions.
3) Keep asking even dumber more idiotic questions.

Then the subject lose patience and insults you (clearly realizing you are a troll).

Then you say "see you used insults, clearly you have no case."

LOL good try TROLL


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 13, 2017, 02:10:51 AM
I answered you with a silly answer cos  you are clearly trolling.

I notice this is your style...

1) Ask a lot of silly questions that only an idiot couldn't grasp.
2) Keep asking stupid questions.
3) Keep asking even dumber more idiotic questions.

The the subject lose patience and insults you (clearly realizing you are a troll).

Then you say "see you used insults, clearly you have no case."

LOL good try TROLL

you simply cannot explain why a ruling elite would want to control and rule an entire planet.

Try it...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: muscleman-2017 on October 13, 2017, 02:12:03 AM
you simply cannot explain why a ruling elite would want to control and rule an entire planet.

Try it...

I can explain it easily.  AS it has already happened previously in history  ::)

Dumbass.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SuperTed on October 13, 2017, 04:11:28 AM
you simply cannot explain why a ruling elite would want to control and rule an entire planet.

Try it...

TBF, history is littered with empires, dynasties, conquests, invasions, imperialism...etc. All these were done to increase power and wealth, expand and rule over people. It is part of the human psyche to want more. These concepts haven't gone away, it is now usually just done using different methods then before.  


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 13, 2017, 04:13:08 AM
TBF, history is littered with empires, dynasties, conquests, invasions, imperialism...etc. All these were done to increase power and wealth, expand and rule over people. It is part of the human psyche to want more. These concepts haven't gone away, it is now usually just done using different methods then before.  

the key factor is they always fail, so nothing to worry about..


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 13, 2017, 04:29:27 AM
Soon we will see the Be There and ESFitness-empires sweep across the world, spanning several continents, where they eventually will clash in the center of Europe.

It will be Rome VS the Ottoman Empire yet again!


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Kwon on October 13, 2017, 04:39:57 AM
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Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 13, 2017, 12:23:05 PM
Props to those brave individuals doing cpr out in the open when rounds are still being fired.


No doubt!! Even though they were probably too drunk to realize.  ;D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 13, 2017, 08:28:10 PM
A NEW TIMELINE!!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/13/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html

Las Vegas police again change timeline of mass shooting


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 13, 2017, 08:46:52 PM
The hotel worker/security guy Jesus Campos cancelled Hannity and won't talk to press. Is he really part of this event or will he just be pulled out of the story? Talk out there that he wasn't an actual employee or added later, etc.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 13, 2017, 09:50:10 PM
He had a medical emergency and went to the hospital.
Their union k n e w that.
Dunno why they acted like they didn't know where he went.

It just gets weirder and weirder...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: chaos on October 14, 2017, 08:09:11 AM
A NEW TIMELINE!!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/13/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html

Las Vegas police again change timeline of mass shooting
CNN....got a credible source?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 14, 2017, 08:15:45 AM
CNN....got a credible source?

Sure. Even Fox News has called out the suspicious timeline.

Tucker Carlson (Fox News) was recently stating how there are way too many holes in this story.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Las Vegas on October 14, 2017, 08:56:47 AM


why would supremacy of a shit hole be anything to be proud of?

Maybe because you have everyone where you want them, and finally it becomes easy to rebuild as you'd have it rather than as they'd made it.

A transfer of power, if you will.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Las Vegas on October 14, 2017, 09:01:57 AM
The hotel worker/security guy Jesus Campos cancelled Hannity and won't talk to press. Is he really part of this event or will he just be pulled out of the story? Talk out there that he wasn't an actual employee or added later, etc.

Whole thing is just too weird.  I can't imagine how this will go.

If only for a free press, a real one....


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 14, 2017, 09:09:10 AM
I am not a guy who subscribes to consiracy theories or MSM, but my bottom line is like alot of these mass shootings, terrorist attacks, we get bombarded with so many opinions from the media(mainstream, conspiraccy,etc) that most of the narrative of who, what, when , where, how,  and why is just total bullshit.

was that Paddock guy the shooter? Probably. Did he act alone? No fucking way, too many things captured on camera by citizens(4th floor thing for example), etc etc etc etc etc

the populations of the world have been manipulated by the powers that be since the beginning of time. Fake news, propoganda, false flags and not new.

All that being said, when it comes to these things for some reason my brain will not accept at face value anything being fed to me by the MSM, Politicians, law enforcement, criminals, courts, conspiracy theorists and especially the general public.

I just refuse to be a sheep and try my best not to be one. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. By sheep I mean taking anything any of the above state no matter what lean they have.

Sorry to ramble but my point is I don't necessarily believe anyone putting a spin on this. The whole "lone wolf theory" stuff is getting tiring and laughable.
Nobody gets shit like this done in this world today, whether you live/deal on or off the grid, all alone.

This guy pulling this off alone is too right out of Hollywood a la John Wick/Bourne Identity/Manchurian Candidate lol

Interesting how I was more or less called a closed minded loon because of my comments on not buying into the nonsense fed to us at face value.

Looking more and more everyday like I am a closed loon who is right about all the bullshit being spewed by law enforcement, media, politicians and censorers


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: obsidian on October 14, 2017, 12:44:07 PM
you simply cannot explain why a ruling elite would want to control and rule an entire planet.

Try it...
They are doing it as you can see with your own eyes. Why they are doing it is actually irrelevant. That's like trying to ask Ted Bundy when he was still alive why he did what he did. You think you're going to understand his reasons???

But yes I would say in the warped minds of the elite they would rather rule over a shit hole and have all the power and exterminate all their enemies. For these kind of cockroaches power is more important than anything else.

Why do you think they are promoting all this mass immigration into white nations? Do you deny that they are promoting it? Look around you everywhere they talk about how great diversity is - they're pushing it everywhere. 100 Years ago was this the case? 1000 years ago?? And has it really improved the West? No, the opposite has happened. It creates conflict. It divides. Which is exactly the goal of the globalist elite.

You are very naive if you think everything in the world is random. The computer you use was just randomly configured into all the parts that make it a computer?? You really think there are not people scheming and planning the future of societies the same way engineers work on the new computer chip or car?? Are you really that fucking gullible and stupid???


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: obsidian on October 14, 2017, 12:50:04 PM
so they will be in control of loads of shitholes???
Ted Bundy was surrounded by beautiful women and killed them and had sex with their dead, rotting corpses. He was in control of decaying corpses. Why did he do that Be There? Can you explain it? Why did he not prefer to have sex with more beautiful living women?

Ted wanted to control women in ways that would not be possible if they were alive. They had to be dead. Perhaps in the same way the elite feel they have a better chance ruling completely over a shithole filled with brown, mixed people. But as I said earlier I don't care about their motivations. I care about their actions. And their actions are loud and clear. And they deserve the worst fate possible and have it coming.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: dj181 on October 14, 2017, 12:54:25 PM
Interesting how I was more or less called a closed minded loon because of my comments on not buying into the nonsense fed to us at face value.

Looking more and more everyday like I am a closed loon who is right about all the bullshit being spewed by law enforcement, media, politicians and censorers

check out the work of gayvid dicke

he knows the biggest secret


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Never1AShow on October 14, 2017, 01:02:42 PM
They are doing it all for control and to have the most money and resources and power for the top .01%.  Globalism and cheap labor, suck up all resources everywhere.  They don't care about 50 years from now, they will worry about that once they control everything.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 14, 2017, 01:05:06 PM
Ted Bundy was surrounded by beautiful women and killed them and had sex with their dead, rotting corpses. He was in control of decaying corpses. Why did he do that Be There? Can you explain it? Why did he not prefer to have sex with more beautiful living women?

Ted wanted to control women in ways that would not be possible if they were alive. They had to be dead. Perhaps in the same way the elite feel they have a better chance ruling completely over a shithole filled with brown, mixed people. But as I said earlier I don't care about their motivations. I care about their actions. And their actions are loud and clear. And they deserve the worst fate possible and have it coming.

errr... please explain why anyone would prefer to rule over a load of deadheads sitting in their own filth as opposed to a productive clean hard working society bearing in mind you did say it was wealth they partly craved?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Las Vegas on October 14, 2017, 01:11:40 PM
Yes, and power by its definition becomes a self-fulfilling pursuit.  That's why it's as old as life itself.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Las Vegas on October 14, 2017, 01:24:20 PM
errr... please explain why anyone would prefer to rule over a load of deadheads sitting in their own filth as opposed to a productive clean hard working society bearing in mind you did say it was wealth they partly craved?

BT, imo it could easily be the point we are approaching in time.  When as a whole we're less needed in our numbers.  Someone will end up "taking it all" -- and whether or not it could he said that's an unstoppable destiny, or whether there is hope, anyone who figured to be in line for the possibility could (and would) look to bust the wheels off the rest of us, first.  No question.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 14, 2017, 01:54:10 PM
BT, imo it could easily be the point we are approaching in time.  When as a whole we're less needed in our numbers.  Someone will end up "taking it all" -- and whether or not it could he said that's an unstoppable destiny, or whether there is hope, anyone who figured to be in line for the possibility could (and would) look to bust the wheels off the rest of us, first.  No question.

the only thing thats inevitable is our extinction, I would say around another 500 years tops the way we are going.
We are going to end up existing in cyberspace.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 14, 2017, 03:19:25 PM
the only thing thats inevitable is our extinction, I would say around another 500 years tops the way we are going.
We are going to end up existing in cyberspace.

yeah but if that happens we can finally have the cyber deathmatch between the 2 vinces, although i suspect it will turn into a virtual gay naked oil wrestling match


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 14, 2017, 05:31:11 PM
errr... please explain why anyone would prefer to rule over a load of deadheads sitting in their own filth as opposed to a productive clean hard working society bearing in mind you did say it was wealth they partly craved?


It's about dumbing down the average of the population, removing close knit ties that hold groups together since those ties insulate them from economic control. Building a better goyim, without getting too crazy about terminology here. You have to understand the banks run the world and you have to understand who run the banks. If you don't get that you have no idea what is going on. David Icke is a fun listen sometimes but it's not lizard people...


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: chaos on October 14, 2017, 05:34:53 PM
the only thing thats inevitable is our extinction, I would say around another 500 years tops the way we are going.
We are going to end up existing in cyberspace.
At our current rate, we'll never make it 500 years.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 15, 2017, 02:37:00 AM

It's about dumbing down the average of the population, removing close knit ties that hold groups together since those ties insulate them from economic control. Building a better goyim, without getting too crazy about terminology here. You have to understand the banks run the world and you have to understand who run the banks. If you don't get that you have no idea what is going on. David Icke is a fun listen sometimes but it's not lizard people...

bearing in mind the claim is the elite want to control the world and create wealth and power.
Why would they want to create an inefficient unconnected workforce.
Surely they would want a team of highly skilled,creative, imaginative group able to communicate efficiently.

Think of it as a company with its staff,


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 15, 2017, 08:13:48 AM
bearing in mind the claim is the elite want to control the world and create wealth and power.
Why would they want to create an inefficient unconnected workforce.
Surely they would want a team of highly skilled,creative, imaginative group able to communicate efficiently.

Think of it as a company with its staff,

25,000 posts since 2013 and 95% are nonsense.

Attempting to be disarming by asking questions obviously doesn't work for you.  Give it up.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 15, 2017, 08:19:35 AM

It's about dumbing down the average of the population, removing close knit ties that hold groups together since those ties insulate them from economic control. Building a better goyim, without getting too crazy about terminology here. You have to understand the banks run the world and you have to understand who run the banks. If you don't get that you have no idea what is going on. David Icke is a fun listen sometimes but it's not lizard people...
The reptilians know that us top dwelling folks are too strong, so they came up with a plan to gradually dumb us down, and fatten us up, and keep occupied and over stimulated. Thus creating the perfect food source. Billions of mindless drones, too dumb, too big, and too slow to react to supremely agile and predatory Reptilians.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 15, 2017, 10:18:07 AM
25,000 posts since 2013 and 100% are nonsense.

Attempting to be disarming by asking questions obviously doesn't work for you.  Give it up.

fixed


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: stuntmovie on October 16, 2017, 07:59:19 AM
Monday, The subject area is still closed and surrounded by police cars and it appear that nothing has been removed from the site .... so I assume that the investigation is still underway.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Nails on October 16, 2017, 08:06:49 AM
So the mandalay bay security guard can't be located, nobody knows where he is?..... Witness protection program? or   .....


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 16, 2017, 08:54:30 AM
So the mandalay bay security guard can't be located, nobody knows where he is?..... Witness protection program? or   .....
...He lawyered up, and has been advised to lay low and keep his mouth shut.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: illuminati on October 16, 2017, 09:02:09 AM
...He lawyered up, and has been advised to lay low and keep his mouth shut.


Not fully up to date with the goings on around this mass shooting incident
Why would he be keeping quiet & out the way ?
Wasn't he working at the hotel & got shot ?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 16, 2017, 09:11:00 AM
Monday, The subject area is still closed and surrounded by police cars and it appear that nothing has been removed from the site .... so I assume that the investigation is still underway.
Yeah..still clogged up over there.
Also --the contents of the memorial on the strip will be moved init's entirety {which is cool} to the Clark County museum on Boulder near Greenway.
First or second week of November


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 16, 2017, 10:11:41 AM
bearing in mind the claim is the elite want to control the world and create wealth and power.
Why would they want to create an inefficient unconnected workforce.
Surely they would want a team of highly skilled,creative, imaginative group able to communicate efficiently.

Think of it as a company with its staff,



The smartest employees leave and start their own better version of the same business. They already control the world. It's about making sure they don't suffer a surprise comeuppance - they have to keep people in a state of fear and separation. We have entered a new era of efficiency where manual labor is no longer needed for production or wars...extended lifespans and increased birthrates...algorithms run the stock market and social media. Most of the population are just consumers under control by suggestion, an early version of the human batteries in The Matrix.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 16, 2017, 10:16:11 AM


The smartest employees leave and start their own better version of the same business. They already control the world. It's about making sure they don't suffer a surprise comeuppance - they have to keep people in a state of fear and separation. We have entered a new era of efficiency where manual labor is no longer needed for production or wars...extended lifespans and increased birthrates...algorithms run the stock market and social media. Most of the population are just consumers under control by suggestion, an early version of the human batteries in The Matrix.

Then they underestimate human nature, most people don't give a fuck about their fellow man, not deep down.


Go and watch some of the tests they have done where they have got people to give other people (pretend) lethal electric shocks for financial reward.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Royalty on October 17, 2017, 10:32:55 AM
...He lawyered up, and has been advised to lay low and keep his mouth shut.


Looking to sue the owners of Mandalay Bay?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: dj181 on October 17, 2017, 10:40:04 AM


The smartest employees leave and start their own better version of the same business. They already control the world. It's about making sure they don't suffer a surprise comeuppance - they have to keep people in a state of fear and separation. We have entered a new era of efficiency where manual labor is no longer needed for production or wars...extended lifespans and increased birthrates...algorithms run the stock market and social media. Most of the population are just consumers under control by suggestion, an early version of the human batteries in The Matrix.

the pharm companies brainwash the living shit out of peeps making them buy thier products

advertsing just may be the biggest evil known to man

and pharma comps and other greedy shitstains have thier grubby paws deep within it


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 17, 2017, 10:41:29 AM

Not fully up to date with the goings on around this mass shooting incident
Why would he be keeping quiet & out the way ?
Wasn't he working at the hotel & got shot ?
who knows. The investigation is pro who still going on, and any info he may have, needs to stay within the investigation. Also anything he may or may not have done whether it's by protocol or not, he could be pulled up about. So, why not lawyer up, just in case? And lay low. That of course gets the CTers speculating even more.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 17, 2017, 07:30:26 PM
the pharm companies brainwash the living shit out of peeps making them buy thier products

advertsing just may be the biggest evil known to man

and pharma comps and other greedy shitstains have thier grubby paws deep within it



Most of the population is over-fed, over-entertained and over-drugged...how can you not call it an obvious distraction or domestication? I don't know that advertising itself is evil but they have figured out a way to monetize the perception of freedom of choice and make the act of buying/shopping like it is some sort of self expression. The average person has no savings but has a $600 phone, eats at restaurants every day, has a new car and a dwelling full of useless things that they were told to buy on Facebook. It's worrisome that the average person doesn't add enough value to the economy to deserve these things - which is the reason why someday soon the standard of living will drop in the USA.

People who call out conspiracy theorist types are interesting to me...their faith continues even after they've been mislead over and over. They have no more information than "CTers" (usually less) but they have blind trust in the story as it is presented. It's not a crime to think...yet.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Parker on October 17, 2017, 07:43:11 PM


Most of the population is over-fed, over-entertained and over-drugged...how can you not call it an obvious distraction or domestication? I don't know that advertising itself is evil but they have figured out a way to monetize the perception of freedom of choice and make the act of buying/shopping like it is some sort of self expression. The average person has no savings but has a $600 phone, eats at restaurants every day, has a new car and a dwelling full of useless things that they were told to buy on Facebook. It's worrisome that the average person doesn't add enough value to the economy to deserve these things - which is the reason why someday soon the standard of living will drop in the USA.

People who call out conspiracy theorist types are interesting to me...their faith continues even after they've been mislead over and over. They have no more information than "CTers" (usually less) but they have blind trust in the story as it is presented. It's not a crime to think...yet.
People are not "over fed", they purposely eat too much, we are taught more is better, even with bodybuilding and drugs---look on here, when it comes to speculating about pros drug usage. True, we are over-entertained, and over drugged. And opoids are one of the drugs, did you not see the 60 Minutes expose on how Big Pharma beat the DEA? Most of what you said after that is generational and part consumerism as well.

Hardcore CTers tend to over think or don't know the inner workings of procedures, investigations, or the Feds, so only go by what is seen in movies, what is made up by others, or make it up as it goes. And use the fact that there have been other true conspiracies in the past. But everything is a conspiracy, everything that doesn't add up to them, or is jiving with their logic, is a conspiracy or government cover up. Basically they see conspiracies everywhere.

Patience, logic, understanding procedural issues, law enforcement and Fed investigation practices, common sense, and level-headedness, is what is needed.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: tommywishbone on October 17, 2017, 07:47:39 PM
LOL! The MGM aka Mandalay Bay security guard is an illegal alien. His SS# is stolen. Gross stupidity from top to bottom. 


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 17, 2017, 07:53:05 PM
LOL! The MGM aka Mandalay Bay security guard is an illegal alien. His SS# is stolen. Gross stupidity from top to bottom. 

This is far more common than people realize.

However if he was an armed security officer then it is more doubtful that he was illegal. But yeah stolen and "borrowed" ssn are extremely common.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: rangerwil on October 17, 2017, 07:55:16 PM
He wasn't an armed officer.
Lets see how true that ss# thing is.
The lady that broke the story is a KNOWN nutjob.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: tommywishbone on October 17, 2017, 08:00:18 PM
If the security guard was legit he could be making $$$$ for his story right now. Telling his story PLUS a gofundme page.... this idiot could walk away a millionaire. He's illegal and he split.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: jude2 on October 17, 2017, 08:55:34 PM
We don't hear much about the girlfriend any either?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 17, 2017, 09:54:14 PM
We don't hear much about the girlfriend any either?


There was the story that she was on the flight restriction list in/out of the country but after that nada.


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Be There on October 17, 2017, 09:55:41 PM

There was the story that she was on the flight restriction list in/out of the country but after that nada.

surely she only needs to be on one of those lists?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: The Ugly on October 18, 2017, 12:12:16 AM
Dude ain't missing, never was. Just got sick of reporters and 'truther' kooks. Interviewed on Ellen tomorrow (then he's off to Mexico).






Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 18, 2017, 10:31:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7gj1FoRIfE


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: SF1900 on October 18, 2017, 10:36:44 PM
Dude ain't missing, never was. Just got sick of reporters and 'truther' kooks. Interviewed on Ellen tomorrow (then he's off to Mexico).






Haha all the idiot conspiracy theorists saying he was kidnapped or murdered. Then, he shows up on Ellen.

 :D :D :D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Disgusted on October 18, 2017, 10:39:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7gj1FoRIfE

So this guy just happened to be up on that floor to check a door?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 18, 2017, 11:09:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7gj1FoRIfE

The building engineer and DeGeneres should become massage therapists. They found Jesus and can't keep their consoling hands off him.





Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 18, 2017, 11:13:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7gj1FoRIfE

Did not watch. Do they say anything important, or are they just pawns in the coverup?


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: Megalodon on October 18, 2017, 11:14:54 PM
MGM owns Mandalay Bay and EDeG has slot machines in MGM casinos. However, none of this factors into anything.  :D


Title: Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
Post by: calfzilla on October 18, 2017, 11:17:10 PM
MGM owns Mandalay Bay and EDeG has slot machines in MGM casinos. However, none of this factors into anything.  :D

I played the Ellen slot machine (no home) for a few minutes and it sucked.  >:(