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Title: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: SF1900 on October 06, 2017, 08:31:30 AM
I recently began to incorporate cardio sessions into my workouts--I do cardio after weights.

Questions:

1) Are some cardio machines better for burning calories compared to others? For example, treadmill vs. stair mill vs. bike vs. elliptical?

2) I am doing like 15-20 cardio sessions, but the amount of miles that I have complete seems so small. I feel like if I am not completing a lot of miles, then I am not burning a lot of calories, although my sessions are up to 20 minutes long, sometimes more. So, what is more important? Time spent on the cardio machine or miles completed? Or, is it really just about the intensity of the cardio session?


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: milone79 on October 06, 2017, 09:00:22 AM
I recently began to incorporate cardio sessions into my workouts--I do cardio after weights.

Questions:

1) Are some cardio machines  better for burning calories compared to others? For example, treadmill vs. stair mill vs. bike vs. elliptical?
2) I am doing like 15-20 cardio sessions, but the amount of miles that I have complete seems so small. I feel like if I am not completing a lot of miles, then I am not burning a lot of calories, although my sessions are up to 20 minutes long, sometimes more. So, what is more important? Time spent on the cardio machine or miles completed? Or, is it really just about the intensity of the cardio session?

what is the point of your cardio? Fat loss? Increased cardiovascular health? If it is for fat loss caloric restriction is a far superior method...if it is for general health, the best form of cardio is the one which you can recover the fastest from without it negatively affecting your weight training.


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: residue on October 06, 2017, 09:05:16 AM
I recently began to incorporate cardio sessions into my workouts--I do cardio after weights.

Questions:

1) Are some cardio machines  better for burning calories compared to others? For example, treadmill vs. stair mill vs. bike vs. elliptical?
2) I am doing like 15-20 cardio sessions, but the amount of miles that I have complete seems so small. I feel like if I am not completing a lot of miles, then I am not burning a lot of calories, although my sessions are up to 20 minutes long, sometimes more. So, what is more important? Time spent on the cardio machine or miles completed? Or, is it really just about the intensity of the cardio session?
why bother with machine cardio? why not just skip rope, push a prowler or do battle ropes?


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: SF1900 on October 06, 2017, 09:32:20 AM
what is the point of your cardio? Fat loss? Increased cardiovascular health? If it is for fat loss caloric restriction is a far superior method...if it is for general health, the best form of cardio is the one which you can recover the fastest from without it negatively affecting your weight training.

It's mainly for cardiovascular health.


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: SF1900 on October 06, 2017, 09:33:22 AM
why bother with machine cardio? why not just skip rope, push a prowler or do battle ropes?


My gym doesn't have a prowler or battle ropes and I hate jumping rope.


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 09:35:31 AM
cardio for fat loss = effort expenditure isnt rewarded with an equal amount of fat loss
45 mins on a bike is around 250 cals

Be better of just eating 250 cals les and watching telly, you burn around 60 cals an hour sitting down


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: dj181 on October 06, 2017, 09:39:35 AM
the best cardio machine is the stair stepper where you actually have to step on each stair as it rolls around

it is the KING


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 06, 2017, 09:42:22 AM
Upright rows, high reps for cuts.


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 09:43:44 AM
Upright rows, high reps for cuts.
(http://workoutlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/watermarked/Bodyweight_Side_Steps_Lateral_Lunges.png)


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: sync pulse on October 06, 2017, 10:26:34 AM
I started with a treadmill...when i could do 30 minutes without stopping, I started to raise the speed each time to raise my heart into the zone.  I acquired a ten speed with a wind trainer at this point and use that mostly because I can slowly increase the resistance with each session...

I don't "sprint"...I keep my heart rate steady in the zone.   


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: residue on October 06, 2017, 10:39:45 AM
the best cardio machine is the stair stepper where you actually have to step on each stair as it rolls around

it is the KING

the jacobs ladder is way better


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: SF1900 on October 06, 2017, 11:04:33 AM
cardio for fat loss = effort expenditure isnt rewarded with an equal amount of fat loss
45 mins on a bike is around 250 cals

Be better of just eating 250 cals les and watching telly, you burn around 60 cals an hour sitting down

I want to improve cardiovascular health--I really don't need to lose weight.


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: SF1900 on October 06, 2017, 11:05:31 AM
I started with a treadmill...when i could do 30 minutes without stopping, I started to raise the speed each time to raise my heart into the zone.  I acquired a ten speed with a wind trainer at this point and use that mostly because I can slowly increase the resistance with each session...

I don't "sprint"...I keep my heart rate steady in the zone.   

I used the treadmill today and noticed it was the best workout when compared to the other cardio machines.


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 11:05:40 AM
I want to improve cardiovascular health--I really don't need to lose weight.

post a picture, I will be the judge of that....


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: dj181 on October 06, 2017, 11:27:56 AM
post a picture, I will be the judge of that....


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: SF1900 on October 06, 2017, 11:34:39 AM
post a picture, I will be the judge of that....

Trust me, I do not need to lose weight.

At this point, I am more concerned about strengthening my heart--I am worried about getting heart disease later in life. :'( :'(


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: sync pulse on October 06, 2017, 11:41:15 AM
the jacobs ladder is way better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT3vGaOLWqE


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2017, 11:43:44 AM
Better off with full body Bodyweight HIIT for 15-20 minutes than a machine.  Think Lunges, Roll out push ups, jump rope, 8 count bodybuilders, High Plank to Low Plank to High Plank, Step Ups, etc. 

45 Sec hard - 15 seconds rest and keep going on the clock.   

I recently began to incorporate cardio sessions into my workouts--I do cardio after weights.

Questions:

1) Are some cardio machines better for burning calories compared to others? For example, treadmill vs. stair mill vs. bike vs. elliptical?

2) I am doing like 15-20 cardio sessions, but the amount of miles that I have complete seems so small. I feel like if I am not completing a lot of miles, then I am not burning a lot of calories, although my sessions are up to 20 minutes long, sometimes more. So, what is more important? Time spent on the cardio machine or miles completed? Or, is it really just about the intensity of the cardio session?


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: visualizeperfection on October 06, 2017, 11:44:09 AM
(http://workoutlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/watermarked/Bodyweight_Side_Steps_Lateral_Lunges.png)

The sketch has a better build than 90% of GB.


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: SF1900 on October 06, 2017, 11:44:56 AM
The sketch has a better build than 90% of GB.

Hulkotron is one of the bigger guys on getbig.


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: Be There on October 06, 2017, 12:24:08 PM
Trust me, I do not need to lose weight.

At this point, I am more concerned about strengthening my heart--I am worried about getting heart disease later in life. :'( :'(

better than cancer mate...


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: SF1900 on October 06, 2017, 12:43:30 PM
better than cancer mate...

I'm worried about cancer too!!  :-X  :-[ :'(

I'm actually more worried about cancer than heart disease!


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: calfzilla on October 06, 2017, 12:53:15 PM
Ha ha pussy1900 wants to live a long life  ::)


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: SF1900 on October 06, 2017, 12:58:01 PM
Ha ha pussy1900 wants to live a long life  ::)

Ok


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: judochoke on October 06, 2017, 01:09:33 PM
I start off at 2.0 for five minutes, then 2.5 for five minutes. then go to 3.0 for ten minutes. after 20 minutes I'm warmed up pretty good for age 60, then I raise the level every 60 seconds, ending up at 8.0 level at 3.0 speed. I try to hold this as long as I can, two or three minutes.
then back down to 3.0 to rest. I do this twice. kicks my ass. (sorry, on the treadmill)


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 06, 2017, 06:06:01 PM
I ran track in high school and college. Believe me the same arguments concerning intensity vs volume exists somewhat in the cardio world.  If you're concerned with the health benefits of cardio exercise like making your heart muscle stronger that is illustrated by the lowering of your resting heart rate, decreasing visceral fat and subcutaneous fat,  increasing red blood cells; lowering blood pressure; lowering of blood sugar; lowering of blood fat as in triglycerides; changing the ratios of hdl's and ldl's in your favor; and other benefits like increasing your gas tank so you don't gas there are many ways to accomplish this.

Since your using cardio as a supplement to bodybuilding it doesn't have to be complicated.  Using high intensity or low intensity it will get you there. If you have a specific athletic attributes you are going for that changes everything in how you approach it. In general unlike strength training you improve cardio capacity by frequency. Meaning 4 days is better than 3 and 5 days in general is better than 4.  Look to get at least 20 to 30 minutes at minimum a session. I prefer running. It's the gold standard that all other cardio is compared to.

If you want some specific recommendations write me.


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: Marty Champions on October 06, 2017, 07:04:34 PM
I'm worried about cancer too!!  :-X  :-[ :'(

I'm actually more worried about cancer than heart disease!
then why eat meat?


Title: Re: Cardio Question?
Post by: SF1900 on October 06, 2017, 07:10:14 PM
then why eat meat?

I rarely eat meat.


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: tom joad on October 06, 2017, 09:24:41 PM
Upright rows, high reps for cuts.

big dicked bob style.


Title: Re: Cardio Question - Cardio Machines
Post by: dj181 on October 07, 2017, 01:09:16 AM
look up Dr. Kenneth Cooper's recmmendations for cardio health

dude owns the Cooper Resaerch Insitute in Dallas Texas and knows exactly wbat the fuck he is talkin bout