MSM is a joke and every single thing they ever report on should be taken with a grain of salt.
On a side note, aren't you a cop or former cop in Texas? PM me if you don't want it out here.
He actually is doing a good job so far, but I'm not surprised by the poll numbers. It's actually a little comical that the MSM has more than 90 percent negative coverage of President Trump, then polls people to ask how he is doing.The same MSM that said Killary had a 95% chance of winning last November
The same MSM that said Killary had a 95% chance of winning last November
The same MSM that said Killary had a 95% chance of winning last November
True, but it wasn't just main stream media thinking that.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/25/trump-approval-rating-fox-news-244181
But how can that be? He's doing a fantastic job
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/25/trump-approval-rating-fox-news-244181
But how can that be? He's doing a fantastic job
RetiredFrom the LE/Mil people I talk to, you might be the only one I know the doesn't like Trump. Do you agree with the antifa/refuse fascism movement?
From the LE/Mil people I talk to, you might be the only one I know the doesn't like Trump. Do you agree with the antifa/refuse fascism movement?
I served 10 years military and 24 years Law Enforcement. I have many friends from both that can't stand Trump, some that like him, some that tolerate himInteresting. Obviously you know more le than I do, but all of the guys I know out here support Trump. Most laugh at his tweets (can't someone take that away?) But 100% are/were against killary. Surprising for SoCal.
What I see from having been inside Law Enforcement is that it can be complicated. Throughout the US there are differences in professionalism among departments, among entities (Local police, Sheriff Departments, Constables, ) from subtle to outright 1960's mentality. I believe policing is headed in the right direction, I just think there are some departments and regions that are dragging their feet in doing so and it gives at times, fire to the antifa/ anti police movement. I think there is culpability on both sides, though I would disagree on the amount. For example, BLM wants to declare every shooting of a black person a murder and unnecessary. On the other side, Police unions are hesitant to call a duck a duck when an officer obviously screws the pooch. While there will always be a faction that no matter what the police did, would cry foul, some administrators and Departments need to step up accountability in at least two ways. 1. When an officer is identified early on as not suited for the job, either ethically or mentally more needs to be done to address that before it reaches the level of at the least, embarrassment dishonor to the badge and at the most, someone dying or injured that didn't need to be. 2, When an officer clearly abuses his or her authority they need to be made an example of and any officer caught breaking the law should always, always get the maximum sentence the law allows.
Interesting. Obviously you know more le than I do, but all of the guys I know out here support Trump. Most laugh at his tweets (can't someone take that away?) But 100% are/were against killary. Surprising for SoCal.
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Throughout the US there are differences in professionalism among departments, among entities (Local police, Sheriff Departments, Constables, ) from subtle to outright 1960's mentality.
I believe policing is headed in the right direction, I just think there are some departments and regions that are dragging their feet in doing so and it gives at times, fire to the antifa/ anti police movement.
I think there is culpability on both sides, though I would disagree on the amount.
For example, BLM wants to declare every shooting of a black person a murder and unnecessary.
On the other side, Police unions are hesitant to call a duck a duck when an officer obviously screws the pooch.
While there will always be a faction that no matter what the police did, would cry foul, A lot of administrators and Departments need to step up accountability in at least two ways.
1. When an officer is identified early on as not suited for the job, either ethically or mentally more needs to be done to address that before it reaches the level of at the least, embarrassment dishonor to the badge and at the most, someone dying or injured that didn't need to be.
2, When an officer clearly abuses his or her authority they need to be made an example of and any officer caught breaking the law should always, always get the maximum sentence the law allows. Plus some.
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Let me say Well said - Good Post.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/25/trump-approval-rating-fox-news-244181
But how can that be? He's doing a fantastic job
Trump says he is pro law enforcement. Probably a large percent of cops are republican. I was a cop in Austin, the Liberal Island in a conservative state. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the majority of cops are Trump supporters, however, coming from a profession where integrity and honesty are supposed to be the foundation, it's hard to understand how they can see and hear him lying so badly, so profusely as well as his petty tweets and personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with him, that they aren't turned off by it.
Are you gh15 supporter & believer ??
Not at the moment.. should I be?
It was a genuine question that's all.
For all the verbals I give you.
I do think your among the smarter ones on this board.
Trump says he is pro law enforcement. Probably a large percent of cops are republican. I was a cop in Austin, the Liberal Island in a conservative state. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the majority of cops are Trump supporters, however, coming from a profession where integrity and honesty are supposed to be the foundation, it's hard to understand how they can see and hear him lying so badly, so profusely as well as his petty tweets and personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with him, that they aren't turned off by it.Every politician lies, you're somehow upset that Trump has lied? I agree with the twitter thing, someone needs to take that away from him. One thing we have to remember, he's not a lifelong politician, he's going to have a learning curve here.
Every politician lies, you're somehow upset that Trump has lied? I agree with the twitter thing, someone needs to take that away from him. One thing we have to remember, he's not a lifelong politician, he's going to have a learning curve here.
BTW, term limits for everyone in politics!
no...no...no...no... for the last time.. I understand most politicians lie to a certain extent. They spin, exaggerate and spin debatable facts in their favor. Has been this way forever. What I'm saying, and I get that not everyone see it, is that Trump has brought it to a new level. He doesn't make an effort to cover his lies, he'll lie when he doesn't need to lie, it's just his nature to lie. He is a pathological liar the likes we haven't seen at that level.. and "everyone lies" is just a piss poor excuse for him in my opinion
no...no...no...no... for the last time.. I understand most politicians lie to a certain extent. They spin, exaggerate and spin debatable facts in their favor. Has been this way forever. What I'm saying, and I get that not everyone see it, is that Trump has brought it to a new level. He doesn't make an effort to cover his lies, he'll lie when he doesn't need to lie, it's just his nature to lie. He is a pathological liar the likes we haven't seen at that level.. and "everyone lies" is just a piss poor excuse for him in my opinionI often wonder....is he really lying or just uninformed about the topic? Possibly he should inform himself more before taking to twitter. Which someone should have already taken from him! If you had never read a twitter from Trump, how different would your opinion be? 3 more years minimum to change your mind!! :D
no...no...no...no... for the last time.. I understand most politicians lie to a certain extent. They spin, exaggerate and spin debatable facts in their favor. Has been this way forever. What I'm saying, and I get that not everyone see it, is that Trump has brought it to a new level. He doesn't make an effort to cover his lies, he'll lie when he doesn't need to lie, it's just his nature to lie. He is a pathological liar the likes we haven't seen at that level.. and "everyone lies" is just a piss poor excuse for him in my opinion
Take it you don't like Donald.
If he lies, what about that evil totally untrustworthy Killary & her clan
Jeez imagine what would be going on now if that thing had won.
That Bitch Couldn't even face her loyal supporters on the night & tell them
they'd lost & thank them for their support & hard work.
Then went & smashed her celebration hall to the tune of 100s of thousands.
One Totally Horrible Lying Bitch.
Thankfully she didn't win.
There is obese.. then there is morbidly obese. There is gay, then there is flaming drag queen gay. there are lying politicians, then there is Trump
There is obese.. then there is morbidly obese. There is gay, then there is flaming drag queen gay. there are lying politicians, then there is Trump
"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan"
yep, a great example of a lie. It stands out.... it wasn't an every day/tweet occurrence
I served 10 years military and 24 years Law Enforcement. I have many friends from both that can't stand Trump, some that like him, some that tolerate him
What I see from having been inside Law Enforcement is that it can be complicated. Throughout the US there are differences in professionalism among departments, among entities (Local police, Sheriff Departments, Constables, ) from subtle to outright 1960's mentality. I believe policing is headed in the right direction, I just think there are some departments and regions that are dragging their feet in doing so and it gives at times, fire to the antifa/ anti police movement. I think there is culpability on both sides, though I would disagree on the amount. For example, BLM wants to declare every shooting of a black person a murder and unnecessary. On the other side, Police unions are hesitant to call a duck a duck when an officer obviously screws the pooch. While there will always be a faction that no matter what the police did, would cry foul, some administrators and Departments need to step up accountability in at least two ways. 1. When an officer is identified early on as not suited for the job, either ethically or mentally more needs to be done to address that before it reaches the level of at the least, embarrassment dishonor to the badge and at the most, someone dying or injured that didn't need to be. 2, When an officer clearly abuses his or her authority they need to be made an example of and any officer caught breaking the law should always, always get the maximum sentence the law allows.
Gallup’s tracking poll, based on a three-day rolling average ending Sunday, put Trump’s average approval rating at 33 percent, the lowest of his presidency, with 62 percent disapproving of the job he’s doing — a new high.
Gallup’s tracking poll, based on a three-day rolling average ending Sunday, put Trump’s average approval rating at 33 percent, the lowest of his presidency, with 62 percent disapproving of the job he’s doing — a new high.
Listen, I respect your military and law-enforcement service but this is just embarrassing:
president Donald trump is thie best thing to happen to the west in the 21st century,, and I'm talking the WHOLE damn century,,
you shall see,,
gh15 approved
lion of Judah
Yes - And he's still the POTUS & Thankfully The Evil
Known as Killary isn't.
The World is A Better Place For That Alone.
I take it you're not from around here..
But you may be right in some aspect, and maybe you mean this... his campaign and presidency brought to the surface some issues that have been smoldering underneath for decades.
I'm the closest thing you hve to president donald trump on any site on the internet,, and i know scavino very well too,,
is this close enough? i told you fellas 8th of November 2016.. very important date in gh15 history,,
gh15 approved
lion of Judah
He's President for now. If he makes it to the end of this term, it is highly unlikely he'll be reelected. Some would argue that the world is in a worse place right now.
I take it you're not from around here..
But you may be right in some aspect, and maybe you mean this... his campaign and presidency brought to the surface some issues that have been smoldering underneath for decades.
I can't imagine a scenario where he gets re-elected, but then, I said that before he got elected.. I think too many people thought he didn't stand a chance and didn't bother to vote against him. I don't think this will be the case this time.. but hell, no telling anymore
He beat all the odds & all the media against him.
The odds on favourite was found out & beaten & thankfully so.
What an Evil lying Creature.
Gallup’s tracking poll, based on a three-day rolling average ending Sunday, put Trump’s average approval rating at 33 percent, the lowest of his presidency, with 62 percent disapproving of the job he’s doing — a new high.The same poll that had him losing the day of the election by 90%+?
I can't imagine a scenario where he gets re-elected, but then, I said that before he got elected.. I think too many people thought he didn't stand a chance and didn't bother to vote against him. I don't think this will be the case this time.. but hell, no telling anymoreHave you seen the map of the counties Trump won? This was no fluke, this was the silent majority, just because the media covers the squeaky wheel, doesn't mean the rest of the country feels that way and it showed at the polls.
I'd keep that tidbit quiet
Gallup’s tracking poll, based on a three-day rolling average ending Sunday, put Trump’s average approval rating at 33 percent, the lowest of his presidency, with 62 percent disapproving of the job he’s doing — a new high.
The same poll that had him losing the day of the election by 90%+?
Yeah, I think I'll skip those liberal based polls. ;)
The same poll that had him losing the day of the election by 90%+?
Yeah, I think I'll skip those liberal based polls. ;)
He lost the popular vote by 3 million... so there is that..
True
all down to one state.
And He Still Got to the POTUS - So There Is That.
He lost the popular vote by 3 million... so there is that..
He lost the popular vote by 3 million... so there is that..That opinion also brought to us by the same media that said the stock market would crash and burn if Trump won.
He lost the popular vote by 3 million... so there is that..
That opinion also brought to us by the same media that said the stock market would crash and burn if Trump won.
I'm not buying into it.
The people in California and New York City are just going to have to get over the fact that we have an Electoral College which is designed to represent the interests of the entire country and not just them.
He lost the popular vote by 3 million... so there is that..
It never gets old:
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Lol...you still believe that? But let’s assume for one second that was true. Are we to change the constitution for her? lololololol
Did she not win the popular vote by that much? If not can you supply the proof?
I'm not a fan of a system that where you choose to live impacts the weight of your vote. But for now this is the system we have
if going to give weight to votes, how about candidates' counties won and aggregate share of GDP?
The same poll that had him losing the day of the election by 90%+?
Yeah, I think I'll skip those liberal based polls. ;)
While there is quite a variance from one poll to another, Trump's not doing well in any of them. At the end of October, FOX News showed Trumps job approval rating at 38% and the disapproval rating 57%. If any poll were going to favor Trump, it would be FOX.
Congress is at 13%
While there is quite a variance from one poll to another, Trump's not doing well in any of them. At the end of October, FOX News showed Trumps job approval rating at 38% and the disapproval rating 57%. If any poll were going to favor Trump, it would be FOX.
I don't put that much stock in polls as most of them are full of shit. If anything it's to create more shock value than anything plus you have wonder about the demographics. The ones that hate Trump will NEVER give him the benefit of the doubt no matter how well the country is doing. Economic numbers are exploding right now for the better but you'd never know it if you listen to the MSM because you'll rarely hear about if at all.
That's why I cited the FOX News poll. They love Trump at FOX News. You should know that.
While there is quite a variance from one poll to another, Trump's not doing well in any of them. At the end of October, FOX News showed Trumps job approval rating at 38% and the disapproval rating 57%. If any poll were going to favor Trump, it would be FOX.Lots of variance before the election too, some had killary winning 98% and others had her winning 92%.
^president trump has the best tax reform and reduction in historyNope.
That's irrelevant. It's like saying a baseball team that got more hits but lost the game counts for something.
If popular vote was the deciding factor, state visits, media campaigns and overall political strategy would have been entirely different, as would the voting. Many of those in locked blue states might have voted instead of sitting it out, and vice-versa. Too many variables at play to make that statement mean something.
That said, a woman DID just get 53M votes and a black president just finished residing for 8 years. But all I keep hearing is how racist and mysogynistic we all are.
Lots of variance before the election too, some had killary winning 98% and others had her winning 92%.
Real accurate those polls.
Not much difference between 98% and 92%. Each poll is conducted separately. The questions and the contacts are usually different which accounts for some variance. On Real Clear Politics - Polling there is an average of all polls taken. This is usually a pretty good guess as to what's happening.
Figures.
Fox News Poll: Approval of President Trump steady since Mueller probe ended
By Dana Blanton | Fox News
President Trump’s job approval stands at 45 percent, while 51 percent of voters disapprove, according to a new Fox News Poll. And that is almost exactly where it was last month, 46-51 percent, before Special Counsel Robert Mueller completed his Russia probe March 22.
. . . .
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-approval-of-president-trump-steady-since-mueller-probe-ended
So you laugh at Fox News poll that shows steady poll numbers. Then condemn a Fox News poll posted by Agnostic that said Trump had low poll numbers a while back.
Figures.
His rats are bailing the ship.
Hmm....I thought you all have been insisting that the polls are all bogus anyway. I mean they couldn't correctly determine who would be elected in 2016. Hillary for the win....well, not so much. ;D
I never said "the polls are all bogus."
You all doesn't mean 'you' in particular. I wouldn't know if you have ever used the term bogus.
I'm sure I've used the word bogus. I'm also sure I've never said all polls are bogus.
But I do know polls can be manipulative, out of context, and inaccurate.