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Title: Roy Moore
Post by: tom joad on November 09, 2017, 03:15:17 PM
maybe Trump was right in backing Big Luther?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 09, 2017, 03:50:05 PM
maybe Trump was right in backing Big Luther?

where there is one 14 year old girl there are sure to be others

doesn't surprise me.  He's a fundie from Alabama so kind of fits the mold

saw a story a couple of days ago that his son has been arrested ~ 9 times


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 09, 2017, 04:14:14 PM
maybe Trump was right in backing Big Luther?

LOL, c'mon now, the politics on this shouldn't be the focus when
possible pedo sex crimes are on the docket.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 09, 2017, 04:56:36 PM
Another Dem lie. Four weeks from an election dude had ran in elections for almost 40 years with nothing and all of the sudden the pond scum libs pull the pedo card....shoot yourselves.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 09, 2017, 05:27:13 PM
Another Dem lie. Four weeks from an election dude had ran in elections for almost 40 years with nothing and all of the sudden the pond scum libs pull the pedo card....shoot yourselves.

there are 4 woman accusing him
If they are all "dem liars" then provide your evidence

Here's what one of his fellow fundie retards said in an effort to defend him

Moore didn't fuck these girls.  He just molested them so...no problem

Also, this guy said that it's OK because Joseph was Jeebus's father

I thought Sky God was the father of Jeebus.  




Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on November 09, 2017, 05:37:18 PM
the psycopaths in the media are now trying to fuck judge roy moore.. this all era of neo feminists will destroy the human specie at the end of the day.. they don't get it,,

erin brunnete from fake news cnn..  call it pedofilia lol with out ever proving a damn thing..

also 14 going on 15 during those times was very comon to come on to males.. when i was 19 i had 15 year old who came on to me and wanted me badly.. and i was going out with her i was 18 going on 19 she was 14 going on 15.. she looked 21 at the minimum.. her mom agreed and i was with her for a while until she decided to fuck the all baseball team of the local school,,

Hussein Obama
the lies
the decives
the politicaly correct America/west
the neo feminist

are killing America.. there got to be social and cultural stand up from the white looking male.. must be because they are trying to take the white looking male out no matter if its Christian jew arab anyone who look white is seen as target now days,,

there got to be a rize to help the white looking weak male population,, the blacks and latinos don't care they would beat the hell out of those girls if they do something wrong.. its the WHITE WEAK BETA ACTING MALE who is suffering now days due to the politically correct destruction brought about by the son of 1000 whores barek Hussein Obama the Kenyan

i truly despize American whores.. truly truly truly! despize American neo feminist poison that is in the blood of society now days,,


gh15 approved
lion of Judah


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 09, 2017, 05:41:08 PM
there are 4 woman accusing him
If they are all "dem liars" then provide your evidence

Here's what one of his fellow fundie retards said in an effort to defend him

Moore didn't fuck these girls.  He just molested them so...no problem

Also, this guy said that it's OK because Joseph was Jeebus's father

I thought Sky God was the father of Jeebus.  




What kind of a retarded post is this? Who gives a fuck what they said. This a lib think, son. Their usual tactics. Quit diverting lunk head and pay attention  


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 09, 2017, 06:36:21 PM
I'm not a fan of this guy's views on church and state, but this kind of stuff really bothers me.  This allegedly happened 39 years ago.  How do you defend yourself against something like that?  Politics is a such a dirty business. 

Roy Moore says 'forces of evil' behind report of sexual contact with 14-year-old

Fox News

Republican Senate candidate Judge Roy Moore responds to report that he 'initiated a sexual encounter' with a 14-year-old girl in 1979; Peter Doocy reports from Washington.

Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore lashed out Thursday at what he called "the Obama-Clinton machine's liberal media lapdogs" after The Washington Post reported on a woman's claims that the former judge and staunch social conservative initiated a sexual encounter with her when she was 14.

In a series of tweets Thursday evening, Moore claimed "The forces of evil will lie, cheat, steal –– even inflict physical harm –– if they believe it will silence and shut up Christian conservatives."

 Judge Roy Moore @MooreSenate
The Obama-Clinton Machine’s liberal media lapdogs just launched the most vicious and nasty round of attacks against me I’ve EVER faced!

We are are in the midst of a spiritual battle with those who want to silence our message. (1/4) #ALSen
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The forces of evil will lie, cheat, steal –– even inflict physical harm –– if they believe it will silence and shut up Christian conservatives like you and me. (2/4) #ALSen
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Amid calls for hime to drop out of the race, Moore added, "Our nation is at a crossroads right now — both spiritually and politically. Our children and grandchildren’s futures are on the line. So rest assured — I will NEVER GIVE UP the fight!"

 Judge Roy Moore @MooreSenate
I believe you and I have a duty to stand up and fight back against the forces of evil waging an all-out war on our conservative values!

Our nation is at a crossroads right now — both spiritually and politically. (3/4) #ALSen
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 Judge Roy Moore @MooreSenate
Our children and grandchildren’s futures are on the line.

So rest assured — I will NEVER GIVE UP the fight! (4/4) #ALSen
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The Post story centered on allegations made by Leigh Corfman, now 53. She told the newspaper that Moore, then an assistant district attorney, first approached her in 1979 outside a courtroom in Alabama where she was sitting with her mother. On another occasion, she said Moore, then 32, took her to his home in the woods and kissed her.

During a subsequent visit, Corfman reportedly claimed he took off her shirt and pants; touched her over her bra and underwear; and guided her hand to his underwear. She said the two did not have sexual intercourse, and that she ended up getting dressed and asking Moore to take her home, according to the Post.

“I wanted it over with – I wanted out,” she told the Post, apparently recalling her train of thought at the time. Moore did take her home, she said.

The report caused immediate problems for Moore with his own party as he heads into the Dec. 12 election against Democrat Doug Jones. Several GOP senators called on him to step aside if the allegations are true – and at least one senator, Arizona’s John McCain, said he should drop out regardless.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., who backed Moore’s rival Luther Strange in the GOP primary, said in a statement: "If these allegations are true, he must step aside."

Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., head of the Senate GOP campaign arm, called the allegations “deeply troubling” and said: “If these allegations are found to be true, Roy Moore must drop out of the Alabama special Senate election.”

Jones' campaign told multiple news outlets: “Roy Moore needs to answer these serious charges.”

But Moore’s campaign issued a statement saying the report is “baseless” and false.

“National liberal organizations know their chosen candidate Doug Jones is in a death spiral, and this is their last ditch Hail Mary,” Moore campaign chairman Bill Armistead said. “Judge Roy Moore is winning with a double-digit lead. So it is no surprise, with just over four weeks remaining, in a race for the U.S. Senate with national implications, that the Democratic Party and the country’s most liberal newspaper would come up with a fabrication of this kind. 

“This garbage is the very definition of fake news and intentional defamation,” he said. 

The Post noted that the legal age of consent in the state is 16, and sexual contact by anyone 19 or older with anyone between 12 and 16 years old is considered second-degree sexual abuse.

The statute of limitations, though, has long since passed.

The Post interviewed three other women who were teenagers at the time who claimed Moore pursued them when he was in his 30s, though he did not force them into any type of sexual relationship.

“I have prayed over this,” Corfman told the Post as to why she came forward, “All I know is that I can’t sit back and let this continue, let him continue without the mask being removed.”

Alabama's Republican governor, Kay Ivey, responded: “These allegations are deeply disturbing. I will hold judgment until we know the facts. The people of Alabama deserve to know the truth and will make their own decisions.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/09/roy-moore-says-forces-evil-behind-report-sexual-contact-with-14-year-old.html


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 09, 2017, 06:39:53 PM
What kind of a retarded post is this? Who gives a fuck what they said. This a lib think, son. Their usual tactics. Quit diverting lunk head and pay attention  

Ok,

Then who gives a fuck what you say?

See how easy it is to act like a brain dead phony "coach"



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on November 09, 2017, 06:42:28 PM
is straw man 240? they sound the same kinda lol

where is 240 he used to be on gtbig all the time in my times,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 09, 2017, 07:06:42 PM
4 Women Accused Roy Moore Of Sexual Misconduct. GOP Senators Need More Proof.
What would it take, exactly?
By Amanda Terkel
11/09/2017

On Thursday, The Washington Post published a bombshell report with the stories of four women who say that Roy Moore, the Republican nominee in the Alabama Senate race, pursued them sexually when he was in his 30s and they were between the ages of 14 and 18.

All four women are on the record, with their names and photographs appearing in the story.

Leigh Corfman was 14 when she met Moore, who was then a 32-year-old district attorney. At one point, she said, he drove her to his home in the woods and undressed her.

“I wanted it over with — I wanted out,” she said she remembered thinking. “Please just get this over with. Whatever this is, just get it over.”

The Alabama Senate special election is Dec. 12. Much of the GOP establishment did not back Moore in the primary, but it has largely said it will stand by him for the general election. Some officials have endorsed Moore, while others have simply said they are fine with the outcome if it’s what Republicans in Alabama want.

But there’s no hiding now, with the Washington Post story. Reporters immediately pressed GOP senators to comment on the revelations. While they said the women’s stories sounded horrifying, nearly all of them added a caveat: Moore should step down “if” the allegations are true.

“If these allegations are found to be true, Roy Moore must drop out of the Alabama special Senate election,” said Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), who chairs the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

“If these allegations are true, there is no place for Roy Moore in the United States Senate,” said Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.).

“If it is true, I don’t think his candidacy is sustainable, but we believe in a presumption of innocence until proven guilty and so I think it’s important for the facts to come out,” Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) told reporters. “It’s not just an allegation, it’s a story. There has to be something more to it so I’m interested in seeing what substantiation there is for the story.”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) ― who worked to oppose Moore in the primary and did not want him to become the nominee ― said, “If these allegations are true, he must step aside.”

 Lissandra Villa ✔ @LissandraVilla
Replying to @LissandraVilla
Sen. Toomey: “All I can say is, if there’s a shred of truth to it, then he needs to step aside.”
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It’s not clear what additional evidence Republicans would need in order to completely disavow Moore. Four women are on the record with stories about the former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. Other people back up their stories.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) was one of the few senators to say, unequivocally, that Moore should not be elected.

 John McCain ✔ @SenJohnMcCain
The allegations against Roy Moore are deeply disturbing and disqualifying. He should immediately step aside and allow the people of Alabama to elect a candidate they can be proud of.
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It’s possible that more senators will join McCain as they digest the news and read the allegations more closely.

And there may be another political calculation in play: Moore was backed by Steve Bannon, the far-right former aide to President Donald Trump who runs Breitbart News. Most GOP senators aren’t happy about Bannon’s attempts to oust many of them from office in his quest to upend the Washington establishment, so losing Moore ― and weakening Bannon ― might not be the worst thing to happen to them. For that reason, they might be willing to throw him overboard.

Then again, many in the GOP establishment didn’t much like Trump either. Yet despite a number of women publicly accusing him of sexual assault, he became president and continues to have the support of his party.

“Trump is president,” said Kate Messervy, 30, a native of Huntsville, Alabama, and a volunteer for the campaign of Doug Jones, Moore’s Democratic opponent in the special election. “Nope, this won’t change Republicans’ minds. Grabbing women by the pussy didn’t sway votes. This won’t sway anyone.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-moore-gop-senators-proof_us_5a04ab07e4b03deac08c0e22?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 09, 2017, 07:20:01 PM
Obviously the only possible "proof" would be if they told someone else about it at the time or at a later date and that person confirmed

The same is exactly true if event happened last week

It's not like you're going to have video tape or eye witnesses

Funny how no Trumptards have any problem believing the allegations against Bill Clinton.

I don't recall Republicans demanding proof from those woman before they would believe their claims



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 09, 2017, 07:23:35 PM
Obviously the only possible "proof" would be if they told someone else about it at the time or at a later date and that person confirmed

The same is exactly true if event happened last week

It's not like you're going to have video tape or eye witnesses

Funny how no Trumptards have any problem believing the allegations against Bill Clinton.

I don't recall Republicans demanding proof from those woman before they would believe their claims



Still waiting for the Ted Cruz mistresses to appear.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: jude2 on November 09, 2017, 07:34:55 PM
Another Dem lie. Four weeks from an election dude had ran in elections for almost 40 years with nothing and all of the sudden the pond scum libs pull the pedo card....shoot yourselves.
Excatly. Why are they waiting 38 yrs to come out. Why did they wait unitl now? This guys is an outsider, the swamp dose not want him there. Dems or Rep


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 09, 2017, 08:16:00 PM
Still waiting for the Ted Cruz mistresses to appear.

And the Cruz love child. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 09, 2017, 08:44:53 PM
Still waiting for the Ted Cruz mistresses to appear.

why?

will that help you ignore the 4 different women who have come forward and made these claims in writing (with apparently about 30 supporting witnesses in one form or another)

I assume Moore will be suing them

that's what I would do if I were falsely accussed

how about you?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Nick Danger on November 09, 2017, 09:37:34 PM
The top republicans of Alabama have really strengthened their state's stereotype in the last few years.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on November 10, 2017, 03:03:00 AM
I don't see anything wrong with what the judge did..

I don't see any proof to what the fascist claim he did..

1,, no video
2,, no audio
3,, you don't know if the girl was truly 14.. she probably was 15 and 11 month or 16 and 4 months and in Alabama Americana back then 16 is age of concent still should be like this today,,
4,, he didn't have sex with her
5,, good for him if he got a blow job she look good.. and I want to see proof she was underage.. to me she look 17 year old.. this is legal in Alabama 1980
6,, where are the whores who complained about president Donald trump? where did those whore disappear to? bck to the loose pusy of their mamas lower tose?
7,, I would actually fuck her too if she was 16 in 1980.. it is legal age and perfectly fine in Alabama 1980
9,, he did not do anything to her its she say he say type of case
10,, fake news media cnn and msnbc need to be sold and broken up,, its being done,, it wont stay like this for ever,,


#civil war : )

gh15 approved
lion of Judah


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Yamcha on November 10, 2017, 04:18:01 AM
It's raining decades-old pedophiles as of late...

My only thoughts on this would be: I don't believe this type of shit just stops, especially when you gain power over the years. Mental illness is amplified by power/wealth.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: rangerwil on November 10, 2017, 08:08:09 AM
Coach..since we have to prove his didn't do it and it's all a lie, can you prove he didn't? Just for the continuity of the thread.
 
It sure appears he did do it.

I say fuck him because of his stance on gay rights.
But that's a moral issue...he's got bigger fish to fry now.
Good.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 10, 2017, 09:19:06 AM
Another Dem lie. Four weeks from an election dude had ran in elections for almost 40 years with nothing and all of the sudden the pond scum libs pull the pedo card....shoot yourselves.


Actually these women have been trying for 40 years to speak out.   Its just now that they are finally being believed.  The allegations are not new, Coach.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2017, 09:22:20 AM

Actually these women have been trying for 40 years to speak out.   Its just now that they are finally being believed.  The allegations are not new, Coach.

How have they been trying?  He has been a public figure for a long time.  They have had plenty of opportunities. 

This kind of stuff is not cool.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 10, 2017, 09:29:41 AM
And the Cruz love child. 

Cruz's dad was involved with Oswald on the JFK assassination.
Trump said it, so it must be true.
Next up, why Bat Boy may move from cave soon.

https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/trump-ted-cruz-father-222730


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mazrim on November 10, 2017, 09:56:37 AM

Actually these women have been trying for 40 years to speak out.   Its just now that they are finally being believed.  The allegations are not new, Coach.
Article said that they did not come forward and the Post had to go to them multiple times to get them to say anything if I remember correctly. Way to fishy storyline. In each of the older stories there were no sexual deeds done apart from kissing and none of those women came forward. Weird that Moore took it so far with the youngest but with none of the others.

Also odd that the Post suddenly gets this info when he has gone through many races before. Someone randomly comes up to a reporter and let's them know about four women who do not know each other but apparently all know this person that let the reporter know about them (if it was common gossip then even stranger). Too many holes to condemn the guy without more info. Pretty easy apparently to just go down there and get this just handed to them yet no one else has been able to do that.

Gets her number and the parents don't care as it had to be a home phone so they most likely knew about his calls/probably answered. Guess she could have hid it but just too many holes to me so far.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mazrim on November 10, 2017, 10:08:02 AM
If it is true this was most likely a big "screw you" to the people of Alabama as they probably have been sitting on it.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2017, 11:08:47 AM
Article said that they did not come forward and the Post had to go to them multiple times to get them to say anything if I remember correctly. Way to fishy storyline. In each of the older stories there were no sexual deeds done apart from kissing and none of those women came forward. Weird that Moore took it so far with the youngest but with none of the others.

Also odd that the Post suddenly gets this info when he has gone through many races before. Someone randomly comes up to a reporter and let's them know about four women who do not know each other but apparently all know this person that let the reporter know about them (if it was common gossip then even stranger). Too many holes to condemn the guy without more info. Pretty easy apparently to just go down there and get this just handed to them yet no one else has been able to do that.

Gets her number and the parents don't care as it had to be a home phone so they most likely knew about his calls/probably answered. Guess she could have hid it but just too many holes to me so far.

I was listening to Mark Levin last night and he said the Washington Post reporter overhead someone talking about the allegation and that's how the story started.  Does not pass the smell test IMO.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Yamcha on November 10, 2017, 11:27:56 AM
Uh oh...


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 10, 2017, 11:39:20 AM
I'm glad Moore is not dropping out

Staying in means these allegations will continue to be a topic of discussion and hopefully more details will continue to come out

Moore seems exactly like the creepy fundie cracker that would do something like this



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 10, 2017, 11:53:26 AM
I'm glad Moore is not dropping out

Staying in means these allegations will continue to be a topic of discussion and hopefully more details will continue to come out

Moore seems exactly like the creepy fundie cracker that would do something like this



Details such as more lies from liberals? Lets face it, they can't win any other way.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 10, 2017, 12:11:17 PM
Details such as more lies from liberals? Lets face it, they can't win any other way.

what lies

If you're claiming something is a lie then just show your proof

Or, you can apply the same standard that you have for allegations against the Clintons or Obama and just assume the are true



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 10, 2017, 12:56:45 PM
what lies

If you're claiming something is a lie then just show your proof

Or, you can apply the same standard that you have for allegations against the Clintons or Obama and just assume the are true



Considering the history of the lib party getting caught in proven lies, I’d say this would a good bet of another lie. Obama and Clinton. Clinton definitely, and considering the lies that Obama has been caught in, he’s no better than Clinton. Now for you. Proven Moore is a pedo like the left claim.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 10, 2017, 01:09:21 PM
Considering the history of the lib party getting caught in proven lies, I’d say this would a good bet of another lie. Obama and Clinton. Clinton definitely, and considering the lies that Obama has been caught in, he’s no better than Clinton. Now for you. Proven Moore is a pedo like the left claim.

Republicans have been caught in more lies that Dems (see how easy it is to spew partisan bullshit)

I have very little doubt that Moore is guilty of these allegations and probably even more (which is why I'm glad he's not dropping out)

The longer he stays around the more woman will show up

BTW - I have no doubt Republican voters in Alabama will have no problem voting for a pederast


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 10, 2017, 02:06:48 PM
Considering the history of the lib party getting caught in proven lies, I’d say this would a good bet of another lie. Obama and Clinton. Clinton definitely, and considering the lies that Obama has been caught in, he’s no better than Clinton. Now for you. Proven Moore is a pedo like the left claim.

do you consider the history of the conservative party/President getting caught in proven lies, or just the left? Asking for a friend


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 10, 2017, 02:11:21 PM
I was listening to Mark Levin last night and he said the Washington Post reporter overhead someone talking about the allegation and that's how the story started.  Does not pass the smell test IMO.

Well if "the great one" declared it so, screaming  on his radio show  ::)

Politics aside, the sex molestation charges seem credible and I suspect more girls were molested by Judge Roy.
We'll see?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2017, 02:17:21 PM
Well if "the great one" declared it so, screaming  on his radio show  ::)

Politics aside, the sex molestation charges seem credible and I suspect more girls were molested by Judge Roy.
We'll see?


No, he wasn't screaming.   ::)

No, the nearly 40-year-old allegation does not seem credible.  We're not going to see anything.  Impossible to prove or disprove this kind of allegation. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 10, 2017, 02:20:32 PM
Another Dem lie. Four weeks from an election dude had ran in elections for almost 40 years with nothing and all of the sudden the pond scum libs pull the pedo card....shoot yourselves.

I dunno Coach, this charge seems credible.
On a serious note, and politics aside, it's a sad story if it does bring him down.
He's always been a man of deep rooted moral guidelines and wouldn't compromise his faith.

However, IF it's true about him molesting a 14 yr old girl, he deserves it, sad as it may be.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 10, 2017, 02:25:59 PM
No, he wasn't screaming.   ::)

No, the nearly 40-year-old allegation does not seem credible.  We're not going to see anything.  Impossible to prove or disprove this kind of allegation.  

In my view there is two very distinct aspects to this charge:
1. Purely political    2 criminal

You're right, since this happened 40 years ago it may be near impossible to convict him of a sex crime.
BUT, if enough people in 'Bama believe her story, he's sunk as an politician.
I think we should let the man run and allow him to defend himself as he chooses .

OK serious question:
Would you be willing to give a liberal democrat the same "benefit of the doubt" ?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2017, 02:33:18 PM
In my view their is two very distinct aspects to this charge:
1. Purely political    2 criminal

You're right, since this happened 40 years ago it may be near impossible to convict him of a sex crime.
BUT, if enough people in 'Bama believe her story, he's sunk as an politician.
I think we should let the man run and allow him to defend himself as he chooses .

OK serious question:
Would you be willing to give a liberal democrat the same "benefit of the doubt" ?

There is one aspect to this story:  dirty politics. 

A very distinct pattern.  They did the same thing to Justice Clarence Thomas and then-candidate Trump.

Regarding your pretty dumb question:  I give the benefit of the doubt to anyone who is accused of something that allegedly happened 30 or 40 years ago. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 10, 2017, 02:38:53 PM
There is one aspect to this story:  dirty politics. 

A very distinct pattern.  They did the same thing to Justice Clarence Thomas and then-candidate Trump.

Regarding your pretty dumb question:  I give the benefit of the doubt to anyone who is accused of something that allegedly happened 30 or 40 years ago. 

Ok, fair enough. We'll see what happens.

I'm dumb, but I've concluded you don't like me.
I don't like you either, so we'll call it even.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2017, 02:41:44 PM
Ok, fair enough. We'll see what happens.

I'm dumb, but I've concluded you don't like me.
I don't like you either, so we'll call it even.

I didn't call you dumb.  I called your question dumb. 

I don't dislike you.  I don't even know you.  I just think you're a troll.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 10, 2017, 02:44:48 PM
I didn't call you dumb.  I called your question dumb. 

I don't dislike you.  I don't even know you.  I just think you're a troll.

Ok, but I still don't like you.



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2017, 02:46:57 PM
Ok, but I still don't like you.



 :'(


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 10, 2017, 02:59:27 PM
There is one aspect to this story:  dirty politics. 

A very distinct pattern.  They did the same thing to Justice Clarence Thomas and then-candidate Trump.

Regarding your pretty dumb question:  I give the benefit of the doubt to anyone who is accused of something that allegedly happened 30 or 40 years ago. 

"They" = Anita Hill and I have no doubt she was telling the truth

so your definition of "dirty tricks" must be referring to someone telling the truth


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Yamcha on November 10, 2017, 03:25:42 PM
Titchuba and Goode Proctor told me they signed their souls away in the devil's black book.  ::) ::)

This is a field test by the DNC to see how they affect elections in today's climate.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 10, 2017, 05:22:10 PM
Titchuba and Goode Proctor told me they signed their souls away in the devil's black book.  ::) ::)

This is a field test by the DNC to see how they affect elections in today's climate.
You tend to be funny Yamcha but the overall conservative view points here are having an affect on my politics
I find most of them so ignorant and bitter, I don't want to have anything to do with them.
In simple terms, if this is how the avg Trump voter thinks, I want to be on the other side against it.

Thanks to this forum, I've become a lot prouder of my '16 Hillary vote and moving towards the dems.
A few more weeks of reading the pro-Trump rhetoric of this forum will have me fantasizing about a threesome w/ San Fran Nancy and Pochahontis. ;D


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mazrim on November 10, 2017, 06:57:36 PM
Moore did not perform well on Hannity today. Sounds like he did date teenagers as he used the ol' "can't remember" excuse but denied all with the youngest accuser.

So maybe getting it half right is enough to knock him out as in todays society it is pretty weird for a thirty year old to be dating that young. Of course on Getbig we have lots of older fellows that brag about dating/flirting with 20 year olds so maybe it won't matter to some....


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 10, 2017, 07:01:48 PM
Moore did not perform well on Hannity today.

If he did then he should drop out.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 10, 2017, 08:15:27 PM
No, he wasn't screaming.   ::)

No, the nearly 40-year-old allegation does not seem credible.  We're not going to see anything.  Impossible to prove or disprove this kind of allegation. 

why does it not seem credible. sincere question


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 10, 2017, 08:18:47 PM
If he did then he should drop out.

so you're on the record saying if "he did not perform well on Hannity he should drop out"?

I listened to his "performance" and I felt he was trying to be honest


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 10, 2017, 08:20:57 PM
so you're on the record saying if "he did not perform well on Hannity he should drop out"?

I listened to his "performance" and I felt he was trying to be honest


Shut up stupid.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 10, 2017, 08:30:58 PM
Shut up stupid.

The irony is like a sledge hammer


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Yamcha on November 11, 2017, 04:56:14 AM
More and more and more accusations everyday


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Nick Danger on November 11, 2017, 02:08:27 PM
Roy Moore Cast The Sole Vote In Favor Of A Man Who Raped A Four-Year-Old

This guy is a sick fuck, who will be the first to defend this? Coach, I'm betting on you.

https://lawnewz.com/high-profile/roy-moore-cast-the-sole-vote-in-favor-of-a-man-who-raped-a-four-year-old/


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Nick Danger on November 11, 2017, 02:11:21 PM
Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls

...but it's ok, so did Joseph.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/359939-former-moore-colleague-common-knowledge-that-he-dated-teen


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Board_SHERIF on November 12, 2017, 04:09:57 PM
there are 4 woman accusing him
If they are all "dem liars" then provide your evidence

Here's what one of his fellow fundie retards said in an effort to defend him

Moore didn't fuck these girls.  He just molested them so...no problem

Also, this guy said that it's OK because Joseph was Jeebus's father

I thought Sky God was the father of Jeebus.  



why do you not understand that the accuser must prove the evidence, not the other way around.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on November 12, 2017, 10:35:30 PM
whts wrogn with dating highschol girls if the legal age in their country or state is 16? no problem with this whatso ever,,

go look at the porn sites on the internet a little see the fuck fest going on there with familys fuckign familys.. mom fucking son girl fuckin papa brother fuck sister.. all available for your 12 year kid to see..so stop being hypocrat fascist society and look at yourself and your right hand first

good for anyone who can fuck 17 year old legaly if its legal where they are,,

don't forget all yoru mamas the whores of generation nothingness fucked the all football team when they were 14 going on 15,, and they fucked the all damn team in tht local no where to be found highschol of yours circa 1995

bunch of hyporcrat fake filts,,

gh15 approved
lion of Judah
bible index


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 13, 2017, 07:12:01 AM
whts wrogn with dating highschol girls if the legal age in their country or state is 16? no problem with this whatso ever,,

go look at the porn sites on the internet a little see the fuck fest going on there with familys fuckign familys.. mom fucking son girl fuckin papa brother fuck sister.. all available for your 12 year kid to see..so stop being hypocrat fascist society and look at yourself and your right hand first

good for anyone who can fuck 17 year old legaly if its legal where they are,,

don't forget all yoru mamas the whores of generation nothingness fucked the all football team when they were 14 going on 15,, and they fucked the all damn team in tht local no where to be found highschol of yours circa 1995

bunch of hyporcrat fake filts,,

gh15 approved
lion of Judah
bible index

While I don't agree with your assertions, you're providing an honest, candid ethical belief.

I don't think an elected official would be helped by declaring they like dating teenage girls at/above the age consent.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 13, 2017, 09:07:51 AM
Shut up stupid.

LOL

hey phony "coach" you sound frustrated

I'm bet you're actually bummed you not able to cast a vote in favor of this pederast


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2017, 10:02:35 AM
why does it not seem credible. sincere question

Because the Washington Post has a pattern of doing this kind of thing, including with the Access Hollywood tape, the reporter somehow just happened to overhear someone talking about this 38 year old allegation while in Alabama, the Post has endorsed Moore's opponent, and Moore has been a public figure for his entire career. 

Being Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court is as high profile as being Governor and probably just as powerful.  The fact this never came up, as polarizing as Moore has been, doesn't pass the smell test.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2017, 10:08:20 AM
McConnell Believes Moore Accusers, Says He Should ‘Step Aside’
ALEX PFEIFFER
White House Correspondent
11/13/2017
http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/13/mcconnell-believes-moore-accusers-says-he-should-step-aside-2/ 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: tom joad on November 13, 2017, 10:12:02 AM
Because the Washington Post has a pattern of doing this kind of thing, including with the Access Hollywood tape, the reporter somehow just happened to overhear someone talking about this 38 year old allegation while in Alabama, the Post has endorsed Moore's opponent, and Moore has been a public figure for his entire career. 

Being Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court is as high profile as being Governor and probably just as powerful.  The fact this never came up, as polarizing as Moore has been, doesn't pass the smell test.

right, the fake Access Hollywood tape is the Washington Post's fault.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2017, 10:13:07 AM
Roy Moore Up 10 Points in Emerson College Poll Conducted After Washington Post Story Broke
by JEFF POOR
12 Nov 2017
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/12/roy-moore-10-points-emerson-college-poll-conducted-washington-post-broke/


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2017, 10:13:40 AM
right, the fake Access Hollywood tape is the Washington Post's fault.

Wait.  Was it the Post or NBC?  Or both?  I forget.  They're all the same.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 13, 2017, 10:40:36 AM
Wait.  Was it the Post or NBC?  Or both?  I forget.  They're all the same.

Doesn't matter which source because the republican senate leader thinks he should go.
Directly from the mouth of Mitch M.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcoVCytzuUM

I read that at least one more woman is coming fwd claiming Moore dated her as a teen.
Not sure of the exact number, but it could be over 30 sources now backing these charges?

Roy Moore is a West Point Grad and served in combat during Viet Nam.
He has a distinguished legal career and was a former chief justice of the Al state supreme Ct.

Despite a lifetime of honorable service, improper sexual acts may be his undoing.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2017, 11:28:01 AM
Doesn't matter which source because the republican senate leader thinks he should go.
Directly from the mouth of Mitch M.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcoVCytzuUM

I read that at least one more woman is coming fwd claiming Moore dated her as a teen.
Not sure of the exact number, but it could be over 30 sources now backing these charges?

Roy Moore is a West Point Grad and served in combat during Viet Nam.
He has a distinguished legal career and was a former chief justice of the Al state supreme Ct.

Despite a lifetime of honorable service, improper sexual acts may be his undoing.

Wow.  The guy who supported Moore's primary opponent thinks Moore should resign.  Stop the presses.  Nobody cares was that old geezer thinks.  He is the one who needs to go home. 

Polls are unchanged.  I don't like Moore, but I actually hope he wins after this outrageous orchestrated character assassination. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2017, 11:37:14 AM
It's the most irritating woman in America and one of the country's biggest media prostitutes making an appearance.  Didn't see that one coming.

LIVE: Atty. Gloria Allred holds news conference with new Roy Moore accuser

by James Franklin, WBMA

MADISON, N.Y. (WBMA) Attorney Gloria Allred has announced a news conference at 2:30 p.m. ET with a new Roy Moore accuser.
On our app? Watch live here.

A release from Allred's office states the woman "alleges that Roy Moore sexually assaulted her when she was a minor in Alabama."

The news conference will take place at the Lotte New York Palace Hotel in New York City this afternoon.

The announcement comes following last week's Washington Post report in which Leigh Corfman claims that she had a sexual encounter with Moore when she was 14-years-old. Moore was a 32-year old assistant district attorney in Etowah County at the time of the alleged incident.

Moore called the allegations in the Post's report "completely false and a desperate political attack."

http://abc3340.com/news/local/atty-gloria-allred-to-hold-news-conference-with-new-roy-moore-accuser


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 13, 2017, 11:46:58 AM
Because the Washington Post has a pattern of doing this kind of thing, including with the Access Hollywood tape, the reporter somehow just happened to overhear someone talking about this 38 year old allegation while in Alabama, the Post has endorsed Moore's opponent, and Moore has been a public figure for his entire career. 

Being Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court is as high profile as being Governor and probably just as powerful.  The fact this never came up, as polarizing as Moore has been, doesn't pass the smell test.

I can almost guaranty he knew nothing of this (Agnostic)


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 13, 2017, 11:49:35 AM
It's the most irritating woman in America and one of the country's biggest media prostitutes making an appearance.  Didn't see that one coming.

LIVE: Atty. Gloria Allred holds news conference with new Roy Moore accuser

by James Franklin, WBMA

MADISON, N.Y. (WBMA) Attorney Gloria Allred has announced a news conference at 2:30 p.m. ET with a new Roy Moore accuser.
On our app? Watch live here.

A release from Allred's office states the woman "alleges that Roy Moore sexually assaulted her when she was a minor in Alabama."

The news conference will take place at the Lotte New York Palace Hotel in New York City this afternoon.

The announcement comes following last week's Washington Post report in which Leigh Corfman claims that she had a sexual encounter with Moore when she was 14-years-old. Moore was a 32-year old assistant district attorney in Etowah County at the time of the alleged incident.

Moore called the allegations in the Post's report "completely false and a desperate political attack."

http://abc3340.com/news/local/atty-gloria-allred-to-hold-news-conference-with-new-roy-moore-accuser

Didn't attention whore Allred do this with Trump and it miserably backfired?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 13, 2017, 11:53:33 AM
why do you not understand that the accuser must prove the evidence, not the other way around.

fine with me

Let's have Moore arrested and put on trial for child molestation

agreed?

Other than at a trial we have allegations that everyone can review and decided whether they believe or not

Given that Moore is a creepy fundie and there are 30 supporting witnesses to the 4 women (so far) making these claims, including the mother of the then 14 year old girl, I'm going to believe the women

Adding weight to my belief that Moore did these things is his incredible horrible Hannity interview last week (I'm sure you've seen it but if not you should check it out)

In the court of public opinion all that matters is who you choose to believe

My preference would of course be to have Moore arrested and put on actual trial but I'm guessing the statute of limitations on his crime has run out


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2017, 11:57:55 AM
Didn't attention whore Allred do this with Trump and it miserably backfired?

Yes. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 13, 2017, 11:59:49 AM
Because the Washington Post has a pattern of doing this kind of thing, including with the Access Hollywood tape, the reporter somehow just happened to overhear someone talking about this 38 year old allegation while in Alabama, the Post has endorsed Moore's opponent, and Moore has been a public figure for his entire career. 

Being Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court is as high profile as being Governor and probably just as powerful.  The fact this never came up, as polarizing as Moore has been, doesn't pass the smell test.

Hardly

I'll bet you $100 if you asked the first ten people you met who the governor of your state is and who the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the state is that most could name the governor and most could NOT name the Chief Justice

The national media doesn't spend much if any time investigating the Chief Justice of a state supreme court, much less one from Alabama



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on November 13, 2017, 12:12:32 PM
i don't know who is worse

old geezer filt joseph 'sex offender by definition of roy moore treatment from generation nothingness' biden
criminal filt menendez
old senile filt mccain who is ill but still try to hurt president Donald trump every way he can

i really cant make who is worst filt among those 3,,

2 of them hated athletes.. and the menendez evil filt was always arogent nasty sob in the communist commities of the fascist party when son of 1000 whores Hussein Obama regime was in power,,

very hard to decide who is the filtiest of them all when it comes to this 3,,

i despize generation generation x females as you all know by now,, i also dont like generation nothingness females since they are just born into retardation iphone mentality and became usless whore.. in the past it was useful whores now its useless whores buttt! its very hard for me to decide who is worst filt among those 3 geezers


gh15 approved
lion of Judah


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 13, 2017, 12:14:19 PM
The irony is like a sledge hammer

Joe could do a great deed for humanity if he would donate his brain for research after he died

I'm personally convinced that he can't be this clueless (while believing he's a genius) without some underlying brain damage

or maybe we'll discover that he is some kind of idiot savant


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Nick Danger on November 13, 2017, 03:35:59 PM
Gadsden locals say Moore's predatory behavior at mall, restaurants not a secret

I never realized so many democrats lived in Gadsden AL   ::)

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/gadsden_residents_say_moores_b.html#incart_river_home


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2017, 04:52:40 PM
Another high tech lynching. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2017, 05:01:16 PM
And the rats start jumping ship.  At this point I can see him winning the election and then getting expelled by the Senate.  Another victory for gutter politics.

Roy Moore fights new sexual assault accusations as woman claims abuse at 16

By Nicole Darrah   | Fox News
 
New accuser: Roy Moore assaulted me when I was a teen
Second woman accuses Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexual misconduct when she was a minor.

Another woman in Alabama stepped forward Monday claiming that U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore groped her and attempted to push her head toward his “crotch” when she was 16, delivering a statement to the media moments after the Republican called the accusations against him a “witch hunt.”

Beverly Young Nelson spoke out Monday alongside attorney Gloria Allred, alleging that when she was working as a waitress in Alabama, Moore — then the district attorney for Etowah County — touched her in his car behind the restaurant where she worked.

ROY MOORE BLASTS MCCONNELL, WAPO, AS CALLS TO LEAVE SENATE RACE GROW

In a statement sent out ahead of Monday’s news conference, Moore’s campaign stated that the allegations were part of a “witch hunt against a man who has had an impeccable career for over 30 years and has always been known as a man of high character.”

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New Roy Moore accuser, Beverly Young Nelson, has a note in her yearbook allegedly from Roy Moore: “To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say ‘Merry Christmas’ Christmas 1977 Love, Roy Moore D.A. 12-22-77 Olde Hickory House”
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The statement continued, “Let it be understood: the truth will come forward, we will pursue all legal options against these false claims and Judge Moore will be vindicated.”

Less than an hour after Nelson spoke, the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, Sen. Cory Gardner, said he believed those who have spoken out against Moore, “proving he is unfit to serve in the United States Senate and he should not run for office.” Gardner added that if Moore wins the election, “the Senate should vote to expel him, because he does not meet the ethical and moral requirements of the United States Senate.”

ROY MOORE SEXUAL ASSAULT ALLEGATIONS CONDEMNED BY GROWING NUMBER OF REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS

Nelson alleged that Moore, under the premise of giving her a ride home from her shift at the Old Hickory House in Gadsden, parked his car behind the restaurant, and allegedly started to put “his hands on my breasts” when she was a teenager.

Nelson said she tried to escape from Moore’s car, but he locked the doors and allegedly put his hands on her neck and tried to force her head “on his crotch.”

Republican senator from Louisiana says that as a judge and a man of faith Roy Moore has 'certain standard to live to,' thinks it would be better if someone replaced him in the race for Alabama Senate seat.
Video
Why Sen. Bill Cassidy can no longer support Roy Moore

Nelson said she tried to fight Moore off as he tried to remove her shirt. Becoming visibly emotional, Nelson said: “I thought he was going to rape me.”

Nelson added that before she got out of the car, Moore gave up his sexual advances, and told her, “You’re just a child. I am the district attorney of Etowah County, and if you tell anyone about this — no one will ever believe you.”

She also said that Moore would frequent the restaurant — and would twirl her waist-length hair when she walked past.

Nelson is the fifth woman to accuse Moore of sexual misconduct. The Washington Post reported Thursday that he initiated sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl in 1979, which Moore said was “completely false.”

Nelson told reporters both she and her husband are strong supporters of President Donald Trump, and that this has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans, but rather her experiences with Moore from her teenage years.

ALABAMA PASTOR DEFENDS EMBATTLED US SENATE CANDIDATE ROY MOORE

To further prove her connection with Moore, Nelson displayed her high school yearbook signed by Moore: “To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say ‘Merry Christmas’ Christmas 1977 Love, Roy Moore D.A. 12-22-77.”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell earlier in the day called for Moore to “step aside” in the Senate race against Democrat Doug Jones, and acknowledged the possibility of a write-in candidate.

Meanwhile, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who had previously tweeted that the candidate “should immediately step aside,” said that Moore shouldn’t be allowed to sit in the Senate and that he should be expelled or not seated “by any means possible.”

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, rescinded his endorsement, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said that “if you win, you lose,” and tweeted that he also thinks Moore should step aside. He added: “If he continues this will not end well for Mr. Moore.”

Republican Alabama Senator, Richard Shelby, said Monday that Moore should seriously consider removing himself from the race, and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, withdrew his support of Moore, saying: "I can't urge the people of Alabama to support a campaign in the face of these charges" and called the allegations against Moore "criminal conduct."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/13/roy-moore-fights-new-sexual-assault-accusations-as-woman-claims-abuse-at-16.html


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 13, 2017, 05:03:31 PM
Another high tech lynching. 

yeah, a woman accusing Moore of molesting her when she was 14 is just like a lynching

Maybe I'll post some lynching photos so we can all get a visual of how these two are so similar

FYI  - Anita Hill told the truth and Clarence Thomas lied and apparently that was just like a lynching too (only it was a black woman lynching a black man)



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 13, 2017, 05:04:18 PM
And the rats start jumping ship.  At this point I can see him winning the election and then getting expelled by the Senate.  Another victory for gutter politics.

Roy Moore fights new sexual assault accusations as woman claims abuse at 16

By Nicole Darrah   | Fox News
 
New accuser: Roy Moore assaulted me when I was a teen
Second woman accuses Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexual misconduct when she was a minor.

Another woman in Alabama stepped forward Monday claiming that U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore groped her and attempted to push her head toward his “crotch” when she was 16, delivering a statement to the media moments after the Republican called the accusations against him a “witch hunt.”

Beverly Young Nelson spoke out Monday alongside attorney Gloria Allred, alleging that when she was working as a waitress in Alabama, Moore — then the district attorney for Etowah County — touched her in his car behind the restaurant where she worked.

ROY MOORE BLASTS MCCONNELL, WAPO, AS CALLS TO LEAVE SENATE RACE GROW

In a statement sent out ahead of Monday’s news conference, Moore’s campaign stated that the allegations were part of a “witch hunt against a man who has had an impeccable career for over 30 years and has always been known as a man of high character.”

View image on Twitter
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 Kelly Terez @kellyterez
New Roy Moore accuser, Beverly Young Nelson, has a note in her yearbook allegedly from Roy Moore: “To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say ‘Merry Christmas’ Christmas 1977 Love, Roy Moore D.A. 12-22-77 Olde Hickory House”
10:07 AM - Nov 13, 2017
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The statement continued, “Let it be understood: the truth will come forward, we will pursue all legal options against these false claims and Judge Moore will be vindicated.”

Less than an hour after Nelson spoke, the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, Sen. Cory Gardner, said he believed those who have spoken out against Moore, “proving he is unfit to serve in the United States Senate and he should not run for office.” Gardner added that if Moore wins the election, “the Senate should vote to expel him, because he does not meet the ethical and moral requirements of the United States Senate.”

ROY MOORE SEXUAL ASSAULT ALLEGATIONS CONDEMNED BY GROWING NUMBER OF REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS

Nelson alleged that Moore, under the premise of giving her a ride home from her shift at the Old Hickory House in Gadsden, parked his car behind the restaurant, and allegedly started to put “his hands on my breasts” when she was a teenager.

Nelson said she tried to escape from Moore’s car, but he locked the doors and allegedly put his hands on her neck and tried to force her head “on his crotch.”

Republican senator from Louisiana says that as a judge and a man of faith Roy Moore has 'certain standard to live to,' thinks it would be better if someone replaced him in the race for Alabama Senate seat.
Video
Why Sen. Bill Cassidy can no longer support Roy Moore

Nelson said she tried to fight Moore off as he tried to remove her shirt. Becoming visibly emotional, Nelson said: “I thought he was going to rape me.”

Nelson added that before she got out of the car, Moore gave up his sexual advances, and told her, “You’re just a child. I am the district attorney of Etowah County, and if you tell anyone about this — no one will ever believe you.”

She also said that Moore would frequent the restaurant — and would twirl her waist-length hair when she walked past.

Nelson is the fifth woman to accuse Moore of sexual misconduct. The Washington Post reported Thursday that he initiated sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl in 1979, which Moore said was “completely false.”

Nelson told reporters both she and her husband are strong supporters of President Donald Trump, and that this has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans, but rather her experiences with Moore from her teenage years.

ALABAMA PASTOR DEFENDS EMBATTLED US SENATE CANDIDATE ROY MOORE

To further prove her connection with Moore, Nelson displayed her high school yearbook signed by Moore: “To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say ‘Merry Christmas’ Christmas 1977 Love, Roy Moore D.A. 12-22-77.”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell earlier in the day called for Moore to “step aside” in the Senate race against Democrat Doug Jones, and acknowledged the possibility of a write-in candidate.

Meanwhile, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who had previously tweeted that the candidate “should immediately step aside,” said that Moore shouldn’t be allowed to sit in the Senate and that he should be expelled or not seated “by any means possible.”

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, rescinded his endorsement, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said that “if you win, you lose,” and tweeted that he also thinks Moore should step aside. He added: “If he continues this will not end well for Mr. Moore.”

Republican Alabama Senator, Richard Shelby, said Monday that Moore should seriously consider removing himself from the race, and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, withdrew his support of Moore, saying: "I can't urge the people of Alabama to support a campaign in the face of these charges" and called the allegations against Moore "criminal conduct."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/13/roy-moore-fights-new-sexual-assault-accusations-as-woman-claims-abuse-at-16.html

yeah, it's pathetic that they don't want to defend a pederast

At least Moore can depend on people like you to defend him


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: tom joad on November 13, 2017, 05:16:41 PM
Is Ted Cruz still exempt from the wrath of Bannon now that Cruz has retracted his endorsement of Roy Moore?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Yamcha on November 14, 2017, 02:51:57 AM
Is Ted Cruz still exempt from the wrath of Bannon now that Cruz has retracted his endorsement of Roy Moore?

not until his love child come forth with that DC mistress sex tape


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 15, 2017, 05:34:09 AM
The Judge Roy Moore thing is a real witch hunt.

He was hunting Sabrina, "the teenage witch" during the 1970's at the Gadsen AL Mall LOL

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0LEVyYUQgxadqgA6gNXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0N2Noc21lBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNwaXZz?p=sabrina+the+teenage+witch&fr2=piv-web&fr=yfp-t-s#id=7&iurl=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-oojykeK_WM4%2FTa2GXou-yMI%2FAAAAAAAAtcY%2FnPK1gjuOEBQ%2Fs1600%2FSabrina%2Bthe%2BTeenage%2BWitch.jpg&action=click


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 15, 2017, 11:08:06 AM
Has Trump spoke out recently on Moore and his accusers? He can't possibly speak out against Moore or suggest he step down based on his own history. Well, I guess he could...


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 15, 2017, 11:16:18 AM
Now Hannity is trying to backpedal

Countdown to Beach Bum joining this so called high tech lying of Moore and trying to pretend he was undecided the entire time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37tyd3nkRGs


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 15, 2017, 11:25:33 AM
Has Trump spoke out recently on Moore and his accusers? He can't possibly speak out against Moore or suggest he step down based on his own history. Well, I guess he could...

When you've confessed to grabbing pussy, you have to be a pussy, when others do the same. ;D


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 15, 2017, 11:32:46 AM
Now Hannity is trying to backpedal

Countdown to Beach Bum joining this so called high tech lying of Moore and trying to pretend he was undecided the entire time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37tyd3nkRGs

While Hannity often jumps to conclusions when it is about a Democrat, it's refreshing to see him and many Republican politicians calling for Moore to step down


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 15, 2017, 11:44:40 AM
While Hannity often jumps to conclusions when it is about a Democrat, it's refreshing to see him and many Republican politicians calling for Moore to step down

Gotta love this line from Hannity

"If you watch this program regularly you know that I do not and will never rush to judgement"

I bet he actually believes this bullshit claim he made (I suspect some of our most judgmental posters also believe this about themselves)



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 15, 2017, 11:46:56 AM
Gotta love this line from Hannity

"If you watch this program regularly you know that I do not and will never rush to judgement"

I bet he actually believes this bullshit claim he made (I suspect some of our most judgmental posters also believe this about themselves)



You can watch his show for 5 minutes and know that ain't true


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 15, 2017, 11:54:45 AM
You can watch his show for 5 minutes and know that ain't true

yep, I'm sure even Hannity viewers/fans laughed their ass off when they heard him say that

the reason they tune in is to hear his sanctimonious judgmental rants



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mazrim on November 15, 2017, 12:05:04 PM
I hope that all those in congress, etc. that are known sexual harassers, etc. will get expelled and named (they won't). Pretty embarrassing that they need mandatory training. Ryan, McConnell need to go as this appears to be a known problem. Also all others who knew about it and did nothing.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 15, 2017, 03:11:37 PM
Another accuser comes forward

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/new_roy_moore_accuser_he_didnt.html

Poor Roy Moore - just another victim of "gutter politics"

Why are these woman dragging poor innocent Roy Moore into the gutter


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on November 15, 2017, 07:16:58 PM
its not even his signature or hand writing on that leter,,

not only your generation is fucked up and disgusting beyond belief aka generation nothingness.. weak.. beta.. iphone dependent.. but! the generations mamas.. aka generation x are bunch of whores.. lieing! whores,,

gh15 approved
lion of Judah


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 15, 2017, 08:23:47 PM
its not even his signature or hand writing on that leter,,

not only your generation is fucked up and disgusting beyond belief aka generation nothingness.. weak.. beta.. iphone dependent.. but! the generations mamas.. aka generation x are bunch of whores.. lieing! whores,,

gh15 approved
lion of Judah

Your qualifications as a handwriting expert?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on November 15, 2017, 08:58:47 PM
if he put it out there.. you can rest assure tht its not his,, he would never say ths things unless it was truly not his,, I believe him and now its time to test it,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 16, 2017, 05:25:53 AM


Why are these woman dragging poor innocent Roy Moore into the gutter

answer: Because he dragged them behind the Gadsen Mall when they were girls?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on November 16, 2017, 06:33:26 AM
^ you mean adults? 16 is adult in Alabama Americana,, and he didn't drag anyone,, they cant even provide the postcard or year book,, this is straight out fascist Americana at its best,,

18 is adult in most places around the world,, 16 is adult in some places around the world

he didnt touch them either at 16 nor at 18.. look deeper into this girls.. you wil find deep ugly power driven fascist deep state behind,,

30 40 years he passed so many tests and so many positions and so much scrutiny along the years.. these lies never came up,, it only come whn someone want attention and America is the place for ths type of attention whoring to happen,,

prove he touched them first..

and then prove they were not adults if he even dated them.. which again is simply doubtful,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 16, 2017, 07:02:30 AM
I hope that all those in congress, etc. that are known sexual harassers, etc. will get expelled and named (they won't). Pretty embarrassing that they need mandatory training. Ryan, McConnell need to go as this appears to be a known problem. Also all others who knew about it and did nothing.

I guess Bill Clinton and current Pres Donald Trump will have a bi-partisan effort to
exempt all Presidents from this training. :D

" Let he who grabs the first pussy..."


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: jude2 on November 16, 2017, 06:55:28 PM
if he put it out there.. you can rest assure tht its not his,, he would never say ths things unless it was truly not his,, I believe him and now its time to test it,,

gh15 approved
Correct they copied his signature that wasn't even his.  Because they put DA behind his name, and that was the initials of the person who worked for him and would sign his name for him then but her DA initials behind it, so they know she signed it not him.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 16, 2017, 07:44:15 PM
Correct they copied his signature that wasn't even his.  Because they put DA behind his name, and that was the initials of the person who worked for him and would sign his name for him then but her DA initials behind it, so they know she signed it not him.


Was he a D. A. at the time of the signing? While it could be a plausible explanation, it's not uncommon for District Attorneys to us D.A. to signify District Attorney


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: jude2 on November 16, 2017, 08:02:12 PM

Was he a D. A. at the time of the signing? While it could be a plausible explanation, it's not uncommon for District Attorneys to us D.A. to signify District Attorney
I know that is what is so funny the media jumped on this thinking he was cocky to sign a yearbook and put DA behind his name.  He never did that before only the lady who worked in his office did this.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 16, 2017, 09:57:28 PM
I know that is what is so funny the media jumped on this thinking he was cocky to sign a yearbook and put DA behind his name.  He never did that before only the lady who worked in his office did this.

If you're position is that he never signed anything followed by D. A. then I agree with your assessment. If tomorrow there is evidence is often signed things D.A I'm sure you will agree with mine


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 17, 2017, 05:45:38 AM
If you're position is that he never signed anything followed by D. A. then I agree with your assessment. If tomorrow there is evidence is often signed things D.A I'm sure you will agree with mine

Let the record show, that Derek Anthony could be involved. ;D
Now it's bodybuilding schmoe related.

https://muscleinsider.com/news/derek-anthony-dies



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 17, 2017, 09:52:10 AM
How many of the Senate Republicans demanding that Moore drop out have called for the removal of Menendez and Franken?  


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Howard on November 17, 2017, 11:06:58 AM
How many of the Senate Republicans demanding that Moore drop out have called for the removal of Menendez and Franken?  

No question it's tribal.
If the  offender is on your team, you circle the wagons.
If the offender is on the other team, you demand hanging at high noon.

Judge Moore's wife had a rally today with women who still support Roy Moore.

* In an unreported story, these same women refused to let Judge Moore
baby sit their grand-daughters while they attended the rally.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: jude2 on November 17, 2017, 06:08:50 PM
If you're position is that he never signed anything followed by D. A. then I agree with your assessment. If tomorrow there is evidence is often signed things D.A I'm sure you will agree with mine
Hopefully they will turn over the yearbook to examine it, to see if it is real. We have the tech now to easily tell if something is new or old.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: The Ugly on November 18, 2017, 06:14:45 PM
The irony is like a sledge hammer

Staggering, ain't it?

Without checking, safe to assume he's disgusted by the Weinsteins, Spaceys, and Frankens, but gives the pedophile a pass for his (R)?  


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on November 18, 2017, 11:32:51 PM
Hopefully they will turn over the yearbook to examine it, to see if it is real. We have the tech now to easily tell if something is new or old.

they will find a way around it to make belief as if he did it,, its deep state,, it is something organized here.. they work on big projects and ths is one of them,, hopefuly people are not dumb and by now understand whts going on here,,


gh15 approved


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 21, 2017, 03:03:38 PM
Child Sex Abuse Victim Calls Out Doug Jones for ‘Hypocrisy’ — Jones Had Said Victim’s Claims Were ‘Without Merit,’ ‘Cynical Attempt to Extort Money’
by JEFF POOR21 Nov 2017

According to a report from AL.com’s Amy Yurkanin, a woman who sued the University of Alabama-Birmingham in 2001 over sexual abuse she claimed to have suffered as a 15-year-old ripped Democratic U.S. Senate hopeful Doug Jones for “hypocrisy” for his role as a defense attorney for the university.
Brittany Benefield, the plaintiff in what at the time was a high-profile suit, had been a student at UAB. She was recruited by the university as a child prodigy, which Bruce Feldman laid out in an article in the May 2002 issue of ESPN The Magazine.

The most important recruit in UAB history was a freckle-faced, carrot-topped 14-year-old named Brittany, who finished high school in under a year. UAB pursued the 5’1″, 120-pound bookworm like it would a quarterback who could rope the deep out. Brittany, who looks like a cross between Little Orphan Annie and Molly Ringwald, grew up an hour down Route 280 in tiny Childersburg (pop. 4900).

Feldman’s article detailed how things went wrong for Benefield as a young student at the UAB.  The university moved her at age 15 into a co-ed dorm that housed football players, and according to the story, she was described to have become a “play thing” by some of those players.

According to Yurkanin’s piece for AL.com, her grades dropped. That led Benefield’s parents to withdraw her from UAB and file suit against the school.

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“Benefield’s GPA slipped from 3.5 her first semester to 1.9 in her third, when her parents withdrew her from school and placed her in a rehabilitation facility,” Yurkanin wrote. “Benefield’s lawsuit said she was 15 when she began drinking and having sex with older UAB students – younger than the legal age of consent in Alabama.”

At the time, Jones was retained by the university and made a public statement that accused Benefield of “a cynical attempt to extort money.”

“The charges against UAB administrators and coaches are entirely without merit and represent nothing more than a cynical attempt to extort money by slandering this institution and its employees,” Jones said according to the AL.com report.

Sixteen years later, Benefield spoke out to AL.com.

“I find it to be the height of hypocrisy that he sets his campaign to be on the moral high ground against Roy Moore,” Benefield said.

The case was settled, and according to Yurkanin, Benefield said she is unable to discuss the details of court proceedings given the settlement. However, she criticized Jones for his behavior during the mediation process.

“He was not a victim’s advocate,” Benefield said to AL.com. “He was all for blaming the victim, honestly.”

She goes on to call Jones “uncaring” and “calculated.”

“I just think Doug Jones is full of … something,” she added. “He was cold, uncaring, unfeeling and calculated throughout the case.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/21/child-sex-abuse-victim-calls-doug-jones-hypocrisy-jones-said-victims-claims-without-merit-cynical-attempt-extort-money/


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 21, 2017, 03:23:49 PM
Trump plays down Roy Moore allegations, blasts 'liberal' rival in Alabama race
By Samuel Chamberlain   | Fox News

President Trump minimized allegations of sexual misconduct against Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore Tuesday, telling voters not to support Moore's Democratic opponent.

"I can tell you one thing for sure," Trump told reporters as he left the White House for a Thanksgiving break at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla. "We don't need a liberal person in there, a Democrat [Doug] Jones ... We do not need somebody that's going to be bad on crime, bad on borders, bad with the military, bad for the Second Amendment."

When pressed on the allegations against Moore, some of which date back 40 years, Trump said, "Look, he denies it ... He says it didn't happen, and you know, you have to listen to him also."

"Forty years is a long time," Trump added, questioning why it took so long for Moore's accusers to come forward.

The president did not rule out campaigning for Moore ahead of the Dec. 12 special election, telling the reporters, "I'll be letting you know next week." Trump backed Moore's defeated opponent, Sen. Luther Strange, in September's primary runoff election.

LIBERAL VIEWS OF ROY MOORE'S DEMOCRATIC RIVAL COULD POSE PITFALL AMID SCANDAL

Six women have accused Moore of pursuing romantic relationships with them when they were teenagers and he was an assistant district attorney in his 30s. Two have accused him of assault or molestation. Moore has denied the allegations.

Republican leaders, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., have both called on Moore to leave the race in light of the accusations. The Republican National Committee and the National Republican Senatorial Committee have pulled their support for Moore's campaign.

The allegations against Moore come amid a national reckoning over misdeeds by powerful men in media, business and politics. Trump said he is "very happy" that women are speaking out about their experiences.

"I think it's a very special time because a lot of things are coming out and I think that's good for our society and I think it's very, very good for women," Trump said.

More than a dozen women came forward in the waning days of the 2016 presidential election to say that Trump had sexually assaulted or harassed them over the years. He denied it. He was also caught on tape in 2005 boasting that he could grab women's private parts.

"When you're a star, they let you do it," Trump said on the "Access Hollywood" tape.

Trump declined to answer Tuesday when asked why he does not believe Moore's accusers.

Trump spoke moments after three of Moore's campaign surrogates held a press conference responding to some of the accusations against the 70-year-old Moore.

Attorney Ben Dupree described the allegations against Moore as "lies" circulated by "The Washington Post, the Republican establishment and the Democrat Party," who he said were waging a "three-front war to destroy Judge Roy Moore’s impeccable reputation."

The Moore campaign attempted to rebut claims by accusers Leigh Corfman, who claimed Moore molested her when she was 14; and Beverly Nelson, who said Moore assaulted her when she was a 16-year-old waitress. They also questioned reports that claimed Moore had been banned from a mall in Gadsden, Ala. due to his behavior around young girls.

The campaign also issued a statement Monday night that quoted two former restaurant employees and a former customer who said they did not remember Nelson working there or Moore eating there.

"Allegations are words, they are not facts." Moore campaign spokesman Stan Cooke said. "Allegations are words, they are not indictments and they are not charges."

Jones began airing a new ad Monday that features statements made by Sessions, Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., and first daughter Ivanka Trump responding to allegations of sexual misconduct against Moore.

Sessions said he had no reason to doubt Moore's accusers. Shelby, a Republican, said he will "absolutely not" vote for Moore. Ivanka Trump said there's a special place in hell for people who prey on children.

The ad was the first direct assault by the Jones camp against Moore on the allegations.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/21/trump-plays-down-roy-moore-allegations-blasts-liberal-rival-in-alabama-race.html


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 21, 2017, 03:45:46 PM
Trump plays down Roy Moore allegations, blasts 'liberal' rival in Alabama race
By Samuel Chamberlain   | Fox News

President Trump minimized allegations of sexual misconduct against Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore Tuesday, telling voters not to support Moore's Democratic opponent.

"I can tell you one thing for sure," Trump told reporters as he left the White House for a Thanksgiving break at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla. "We don't need a liberal person in there, a Democrat [Doug] Jones ... We do not need somebody that's going to be bad on crime, bad on borders, bad with the military, bad for the Second Amendment."

When pressed on the allegations against Moore, some of which date back 40 years, Trump said, "Look, he denies it ... He says it didn't happen, and you know, you have to listen to him also."

"Forty years is a long time," Trump added, questioning why it took so long for Moore's accusers to come forward.

The president did not rule out campaigning for Moore ahead of the Dec. 12 special election, telling the reporters, "I'll be letting you know next week." Trump backed Moore's defeated opponent, Sen. Luther Strange, in September's primary runoff election.

LIBERAL VIEWS OF ROY MOORE'S DEMOCRATIC RIVAL COULD POSE PITFALL AMID SCANDAL

Six women have accused Moore of pursuing romantic relationships with them when they were teenagers and he was an assistant district attorney in his 30s. Two have accused him of assault or molestation. Moore has denied the allegations.

Republican leaders, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., have both called on Moore to leave the race in light of the accusations. The Republican National Committee and the National Republican Senatorial Committee have pulled their support for Moore's campaign.

The allegations against Moore come amid a national reckoning over misdeeds by powerful men in media, business and politics. Trump said he is "very happy" that women are speaking out about their experiences.

"I think it's a very special time because a lot of things are coming out and I think that's good for our society and I think it's very, very good for women," Trump said.

More than a dozen women came forward in the waning days of the 2016 presidential election to say that Trump had sexually assaulted or harassed them over the years. He denied it. He was also caught on tape in 2005 boasting that he could grab women's private parts.

"When you're a star, they let you do it," Trump said on the "Access Hollywood" tape.

Trump declined to answer Tuesday when asked why he does not believe Moore's accusers.

Trump spoke moments after three of Moore's campaign surrogates held a press conference responding to some of the accusations against the 70-year-old Moore.

Attorney Ben Dupree described the allegations against Moore as "lies" circulated by "The Washington Post, the Republican establishment and the Democrat Party," who he said were waging a "three-front war to destroy Judge Roy Moore’s impeccable reputation."

The Moore campaign attempted to rebut claims by accusers Leigh Corfman, who claimed Moore molested her when she was 14; and Beverly Nelson, who said Moore assaulted her when she was a 16-year-old waitress. They also questioned reports that claimed Moore had been banned from a mall in Gadsden, Ala. due to his behavior around young girls.

The campaign also issued a statement Monday night that quoted two former restaurant employees and a former customer who said they did not remember Nelson working there or Moore eating there.

"Allegations are words, they are not facts." Moore campaign spokesman Stan Cooke said. "Allegations are words, they are not indictments and they are not charges."

Jones began airing a new ad Monday that features statements made by Sessions, Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., and first daughter Ivanka Trump responding to allegations of sexual misconduct against Moore.

Sessions said he had no reason to doubt Moore's accusers. Shelby, a Republican, said he will "absolutely not" vote for Moore. Ivanka Trump said there's a special place in hell for people who prey on children.

The ad was the first direct assault by the Jones camp against Moore on the allegations.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/21/trump-plays-down-roy-moore-allegations-blasts-liberal-rival-in-alabama-race.html

Pretty much what I expected from him. "It's great that women feel they can safely come forward now... but unless the accusations are against democrats, I don't believe them, but it's great they are speaking out"


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 21, 2017, 08:53:30 PM
Pretty much what I expected from him. "It's great that women feel they can safely come forward now... but unless the accusations are against democrats, I don't believe them, but it's great they are speaking out"

Difficult position for him.  He was the victim of a smear campaign, so he must be sensitive to this kind of grossly unfair attack.  At the same time, he doesn't want to look anti-woman.  He ought to just keep quiet, but he's not capable of doing that. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 21, 2017, 08:58:32 PM
Difficult position for him.  He was the victim of a smear campaign, so he must be sensitive to this kind of grossly unfair attack.  At the same time, he doesn't want to look anti-woman.  He ought to just keep quiet, but he's not capable of doing that. 

What is grossly unfair about it?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 21, 2017, 09:06:25 PM
What is grossly unfair about it?

Same thing I said last time you asked me:

Because the Washington Post has a pattern of doing this kind of thing, including with the Access Hollywood tape, the reporter somehow just happened to overhear someone talking about this 38 year old allegation while in Alabama, the Post has endorsed Moore's opponent, and Moore has been a public figure for his entire career. 

Being Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court is as high profile as being Governor and probably just as powerful.  The fact this never came up, as polarizing as Moore has been, doesn't pass the smell test.

Then you have the country's biggest media prostitute holding a press conference; a pattern she has followed for years to try and kill conservative political candidates. 

I have no idea whether those women are telling the truth, but the problem it is impossible to prove or disprove these allegations.

Part of the reason I typically approach he said, she said allegations with caution is the McMartin Preschool case from years ago.  Interesting read if you have the time and desire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 21, 2017, 09:22:57 PM
Same thing I said last time you asked me:

Then you have the country's biggest media prostitute holding a press conference; a pattern she has followed for years to try and kill conservative political candidates. 

I have no idea whether those women are telling the truth, but the problem it is impossible to prove or disprove these allegations.

Part of the reason I typically approach he said, she said allegations with caution is the McMartin Preschool case from years ago.  Interesting read if you have the time and desire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial

I'm familiar with it.

1. Either the yearbook writing is his hand writing or it is a forgery. It has been offered up as evidence is an ethics hearing, which should take place, takes place.
2. One woman testified she was in his living room, specifics of the layout would lend credibility to his story.]
3. Similarities and patterns by the alleged perv would also add credibility. That he couldn't recall if he dated a 17 year old when he was 30 plus years old doesn't give me a lot of confidence in his testimony.
4. He isn't being tried to be sent to prison, it is to determine if his alleged behavior of preying on teen aged girls makes him unfit to sit as a senator. Sounds reasonable to explore the information.
5. There are other determining factors like did the victims share this information with anyone at the time of the occurrence? If so, that's another brick.

So basically it's him saying "No I didn't and several girls, some who state they have not voted democrat who say he did, and provide details...

Yeah, he wouldn't be babysitting my 13 year old anytime soon. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 21, 2017, 09:36:04 PM
I'm familiar with it.

1. Either the yearbook writing is his hand writing or it is a forgery. It has been offered up as evidence is an ethics hearing, which should take place, takes place.
2. One woman testified she was in his living room, specifics of the layout would lend credibility to his story.]
3. Similarities and patterns by the alleged perv would also add credibility. That he couldn't recall if he dated a 17 year old when he was 30 plus years old doesn't give me a lot of confidence in his testimony.
4. He isn't being tried to be sent to prison, it is to determine if his alleged behavior of preying on teen aged girls makes him unfit to sit as a senator. Sounds reasonable to explore the information.
5. There are other determining factors like did the victims share this information with anyone at the time of the occurrence? If so, that's another brick.

So basically it's him saying "No I didn't and several girls, some who state they have not voted democrat who say he did, and provide details...

Yeah, he wouldn't be babysitting my 13 year old anytime soon. 

1.  It should be given to Moore and his lawyer just like they requested.  It shouldn't be given to a Senate Ethics Committee when he's not even a U.S. Senator.  That's absurd.  And why wait?  That's BS.

2.  It was almost 40 years ago.  Who the heck cares whether some woman can describe his living room??  None of what they say proves anything.  And he cannot disprove it.  That's the problem.

3.  His interview with Hannity was horrible.  Sounded pretty bad.  But after listening to it I reflected on accused Olympic Park bomber Richard Jewell, and how I said after hearing him speak to the press that he was guilty as sin.

4.  He has been tried and convicted in the media as a pedophile.  That could very well lead to him losing the race.  That was the whole point of this smear campaign.  Most of the people who don't have a problem with the context of this whole thing are partisans, or simply don't like the guy's politics.  I don't like his First Amendment views either and wouldn't vote for him if I lived in Alabama.  But I do believe in fundamental fairness.  You have to plug your eyes and ears to ignore how this whole thing started and how it violates fundamental fairness. 

5.  There are no determining factors.  It's friggin four decades ago.  They can't even sue the guy for what they claim he did.  You know why?  Because society has said that after a certain period of time it's too late.  That it would be unfair to someone to have a claim filed against him/her 20 or 30 or 40 years later.

The girl was 14.  The allegations are bad enough without embellishing. 

Overall, there is nothing but his word against theirs (and the context, which matters).  There is no smoking gun.  It's not like they have video of him groping a young woman or anything. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 22, 2017, 11:32:24 AM
One of the girls was 14 at the time of the alleged event. However I was talking about Debbie Wesson Gibson who said she was 17 when he took her out on several dates. His answer on that was pretty murky.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 22, 2017, 11:33:27 AM
Did you believe Bill Cosby was innocent? If he were running for Senate in your state.. would you vote for him?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 22, 2017, 01:13:15 PM
One of the girls was 14 at the time of the alleged event. However I was talking about Debbie Wesson Gibson who said she was 17 when he took her out on several dates. His answer on that was pretty murky.

Yes it was.  But he shouldn’t have to answer those questions almost 40 years later.  Not everyone has the scarily good long term memory like mine.   :)


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 22, 2017, 01:14:32 PM
Did you believe Bill Cosby was innocent? If he were running for Senate in your state.. would you vote for him?

Innocent of what?  There are numerous allegations by a ton of women.  Which ones are you talking about?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 22, 2017, 01:42:36 PM
Exclusive — Another Alabama Poll: Judge Roy Moore Leads Democrat Doug Jones by Six Points Again

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/22/exclusive-another-alabama-poll-roy-moore-leads-democrat-jones-six-points/


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on November 22, 2017, 01:45:11 PM
Yes it was.  But he shouldn’t have to answer those questions almost 40 years later.  Not everyone has the scarily good long term memory like mine.   :)

sure he should

no reason that whether it's been 4 years or 40 years

I'm sure if it was your daughter he tried to diddle that 40 years wouldn't make any difference in that sitaution


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: sync pulse on November 22, 2017, 10:08:08 PM
But he shouldn’t have to answer those questions almost 40 years later.  Not everyone has the scarily good long term memory like mine.  


You would be shocked and astounded at how long grudges can be held...

Especially if you didn't like the person/institution to begin with.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2017, 03:55:57 PM

You would be shocked and astounded at how long grudges can be held...

Especially if you didn't like the person/institution to begin with.

Was just talking about that with someone today.  Yes they can last for a very long time.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2017, 03:58:26 PM
The polls are all over the place.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2017/senate/al/alabama_senate_special_election_moore_vs_jones-6271.html#!


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on December 04, 2017, 10:35:09 AM
Trump endorses Roy Moore in phone call: 'We need his vote'
Brooke Singman By Brooke Singman   | Fox News

Andy Puzder, America First Policies policy advisor and former CKE Restaurants CEO, on the NFL national anthem protests and the allegations against Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore.

President Trump on Monday endorsed Alabama Republican Senate nominee Roy Moore, telling voters "we need" him to tackle illegal immigration, tax reform and more -- after weeks of holding back his full support for the embattled candidate.

. . . .

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/04/trump-endorses-roy-moore-in-phone-call-need-his-vote.html


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 08, 2017, 08:34:06 AM
Bombshell: Roy Moore Accuser Beverly Nelson Admits She Forged Yearbook
Breitbart ^ | December 8, 2017 | John Nolte
Posted on 12/8/2017, 11:16:28 AM by Trump20162020

Beverly Young Nelson has finally admitted that she forged a portion of the infamous high school yearbook that she and attorney Gloria Allred used as proof of her accusations against U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore.

And in yet another blow to the credibility of ABC News, the disgraced, left-wing network downplayed the bombshell by presenting this admission of forgery as adding “notes” to the inscription.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 08, 2017, 08:35:38 AM
 It’s from an ABC News interview. I guess they realize that eventually they were going to get called on this and had to come clean. The reporter of course was trying to minimize the issue by saying that the message was all Roy Moore. Come on.

But, hey, this is no different from Al Franken except that one had photographic evidence against him and the other has a forged yearbook.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on December 08, 2017, 08:54:21 AM
Bombshell: Roy Moore Accuser Beverly Nelson Admits She Forged Yearbook
Breitbart ^ | December 8, 2017 | John Nolte
Posted on 12/8/2017, 11:16:28 AM by Trump20162020

Beverly Young Nelson has finally admitted that she forged a portion of the infamous high school yearbook that she and attorney Gloria Allred used as proof of her accusations against U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore.

And in yet another blow to the credibility of ABC News, the disgraced, left-wing network downplayed the bombshell by presenting this admission of forgery as adding “notes” to the inscription.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


Come on now.....the entire Sheriff's Dept commented that they had to chase him out of schools and malls.  The only credibility issue is Roy Moore. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 08, 2017, 08:56:59 AM

Come on now.....the entire Sheriff's Dept commented that they had to chase him out of schools and malls.  The only credibility issue is Roy Moore. 


Would you hit it ? Lol.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mazrim on December 08, 2017, 08:58:22 AM

The only credibility issue is Roy Moore. 
So you are saying she didn't lie even though she just admitted she did? Weird. Come on now.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on December 08, 2017, 09:16:27 AM
So you are saying she didn't lie even though she just admitted she did? Weird. Come on now.


I never cared what the whores said....but when the Sheriff goes out and talks about his activities, its pretty damning.  He's still going to be elected anyway


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 08, 2017, 09:42:36 AM

I never cared what the whores said....but when the Sheriff goes out and talks about his activities, its pretty damning.  He's still going to be elected anyway

kind of said how pathetic and far left and deranged libfags and democrat perverts are they they cant beat a boob like moore no? 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on December 08, 2017, 02:58:58 PM
Bombshell: Roy Moore Accuser Beverly Nelson Admits She Forged Yearbook
Breitbart ^ | December 8, 2017 | John Nolte
Posted on 12/8/2017, 11:16:28 AM by Trump20162020

Beverly Young Nelson has finally admitted that she forged a portion of the infamous high school yearbook that she and attorney Gloria Allred used as proof of her accusations against U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore.

And in yet another blow to the credibility of ABC News, the disgraced, left-wing network downplayed the bombshell by presenting this admission of forgery as adding “notes” to the inscription.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

 :o  Well.  There goes her credibility.  Glad this was Gloria Allred's client.   :)


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 08, 2017, 03:23:17 PM
Trump stumping for him today. Trump lands on right side of the issue even when he didn't originally back him.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 09, 2017, 07:22:39 PM
It’s from an ABC News interview. I guess they realize that eventually they were going to get called on this and had to come clean. The reporter of course was trying to minimize the issue by saying that the message was all Roy Moore. Come on.

But, hey, this is no different from Al Franken except that one had photographic evidence against him and the other has a forged yearbook.

Forged?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 09, 2017, 07:23:43 PM
:o  Well.  There goes her credibility.  Glad this was Gloria Allred's client.   :)

You realize she didn't +admit+ to any such thing and Fox had to retract their story?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2017, 07:33:04 PM
All contrived leftist hit job


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 10, 2017, 11:36:18 AM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fox-news-amends-erroneous-story-claiming-roy-moore-accuser-forged-yearbook-signature/article/2642983


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2017, 11:59:01 AM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fox-news-amends-erroneous-story-claiming-roy-moore-accuser-forged-yearbook-signature/article/2642983

And? It still doesn't change anything and Allred still won't hand over the yearbook, so this is meaningless. You're trying too hard and keep coming up short.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mphgrove on December 10, 2017, 03:54:29 PM
No matter how you slice it, doesn’t reflect very well on Alabama. Confirms all the old time stereotypes in the eyes of most in the rest of the nation.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 10, 2017, 04:15:48 PM
And? It still doesn't change anything and Allred still won't hand over the yearbook, so this is meaningless. You're trying too hard and keep coming up short.

Coach let me ask you, IF independent handwriting experts confirmed it was his signature, would it change your view? If you lived in Alabama would you still vote for Moore?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: chaos on December 10, 2017, 04:35:57 PM
Coach let me ask you, IF independent handwriting experts confirmed it was his signature, would it change your view? If you lived in Alabama would you still vote for Moore?
Not following the story too closely, but what if he did sign her yearbook? How does that prove sexual assault? If I remember right, it was 1977? WTF?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 10, 2017, 08:11:24 PM
Not following the story too closely, but what if he did sign her yearbook? How does that prove sexual assault? If I remember right, it was 1977? WTF?

9 women have similar stories. He has gone on record saying he never met any of them. Seems to me, a signed yearbook would be an important clue on who's telling the truth. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on December 10, 2017, 11:47:03 PM
this week we shall see how bad Hussein Obama social and cultural destruction truly is.. if this judge.. respectable! judge.. with morals and good fella.. is not in the senat.. elected comfortably.. then we know generation nothingness neo fascist movment is in total control socially and culturally,,

we shall see..

i hope that once he wins.. he celebrate with a 3 sum.. he and his best friend fuckign a whore of their choice.. one in the mouth and one from behind.. for good ole times to compensate for all the uglys he had to deal with in his younger years,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mazrim on December 11, 2017, 06:46:46 AM
He has gone on record saying he never met any of them.  
No, he hasn't.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 11, 2017, 07:16:00 AM
I haven’t been rooting this hard for someone to win since Trump. A Moore victory should really cause liberal heads to explode.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on December 11, 2017, 08:00:58 AM
You realize she didn't +admit+ to any such thing and Fox had to retract their story?

She initially claimed Moore wrote everything in the yearbook.  Now she admits she wrote part of it.  That's forgery, so not sure why anyone needed to clarify anything, unless they claimed she forged all of it.  Talk about hair splitting . . . .

Her credibility is destroyed. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 11, 2017, 09:16:41 AM
She initially claimed Moore wrote everything in the yearbook.  Now she admits she wrote part of it.  That's forgery, so not sure why anyone needed to clarify anything, unless they claimed she forged all of it.  Talk about hair splitting . . . .

Her credibility is destroyed. 

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/roy-moore-now-claims-he-knows-none-of-his-accusers-contradicting-his-earlier-defenses/article/2642549


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2017, 10:03:02 AM
Coach let me ask you, IF independent handwriting experts confirmed it was his signature, would it change your view? If you lived in Alabama would you still vote for Moore?

The entire story is bullshit so this hypothetical isn't worth answering.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2017, 10:04:03 AM
9 women have similar stories. He has gone on record saying he never met any of them. Seems to me, a signed yearbook would be an important clue on who's telling the truth. 

After 40 years they all come out now. Let know about that one Sherlock


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mazrim on December 11, 2017, 10:38:59 AM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/roy-moore-now-claims-he-knows-none-of-his-accusers-contradicting-his-earlier-defenses/article/2642549
Didn't see/know this. The people are stuck in a hard place. I personally don't think he did anything in regards to sexual molestation/assault, etc. towards the women but do believe he dated some of them in their late teens.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 11, 2017, 04:16:29 PM
Didn't see/know this. The people are stuck in a hard place. I personally don't think he did anything in regards to sexual molestation/assault, etc. towards the women but do believe he dated some of them in their late teens.

and some in their early teens (14) I think this particular one he tried to get head from in his car. He's that creepy uncle who spends too much time in a hug with the girls at Thanksgiving.  For me, his getting booted from his job for refusing to follow the law twice, seals it for me


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2017, 04:50:10 PM
It's complete bullshit and a left hit job. In case you haven't noticed (and I know you haven't) it's their MO. Now they're going after Trump...again. lmao


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 11, 2017, 08:03:04 PM
It's complete bullshit and a left hit job. In case you haven't noticed (and I know you haven't) it's their MO. Now they're going after Trump...again. lmao

It's sad to me that there are still people like you that will discount anything that goes against their party. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2017, 09:10:52 PM
It's sad to me that there are still people like you that will discount anything that goes against their party. 

Show me proof. All I’ve heard has been hear-say. You’re a cop. Where’s the hard evidence? Gloria Allred and her “client” have already been discredited. Where...is....the...proo f?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 11, 2017, 09:45:05 PM
Show me proof. All I’ve heard has been hear-say. You’re a cop. Where’s the hard evidence? Gloria Allred and her “client” have already been discredited. Where...is....the...proo f?
Ok.. hearsay is when someone says "Jill told me Trump grabbed her crotch. Direct testimony is when Jill says Trump grabbed my crotch..


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on December 11, 2017, 11:38:23 PM
a female should always! be dominated by her male.. she should always be naturally submissive..

if judge roy moore want to have sex with legal age females i see no problem with it what so ever,, all the other lies and deceive should be seen as deep state conspiracy against the good ole west.. this been going on now for a long time and an end to it will come with out conection to the election today,,

gh15 approved
lion of Judah


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2017, 12:02:18 AM
Ok.. hearsay is when someone says "Jill told me Trump grabbed her crotch. Direct testimony is when Jill says Trump grabbed my crotch..

The legal definition of “testimony” is sworn in at a trial.



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2017, 02:30:16 AM
The legal definition of “testimony” is sworn in at a trial.


So, Coach is ok with a guy who goes after under-aged girls. Nice.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on December 12, 2017, 02:36:48 AM
^prove it,,

she was legal,, and he didn't go for her ugly ass.. she wish he did,,

prove he even touched her..

this is all fake news deep state propaganda,,

while meanwhile they avoid covering the important things such as..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4efZs2aSWBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4efZs2aSWBY


gh15 approved
lion of Judah


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Yamcha on December 12, 2017, 02:56:22 AM
Today's the day!  :D


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Grape Ape on December 12, 2017, 04:53:17 AM
I despise the hypocrisy of the left, but I'd like to think there's better people to rally behind than this guy.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2017, 06:31:18 AM
So, Coach is ok with a guy who goes after under-aged girls. Nice.

Where’s the proof.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2017, 07:39:03 AM
So, Coach is ok with a guy who goes after under-aged girls. Nice.

Before you start spewing your liberal lying accusations learn to get your facts together or at least learn to put two and two together. For someone that comes off as a pompous "intellectual", you have ZERO political instinct.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: tom joad on December 12, 2017, 07:51:54 AM
so let's hear some brave predictions for tonight ...
how many points does Moore win by or is anybody here calling an epic Jones upset victory?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 12, 2017, 08:02:46 AM
so let's hear some brave predictions for tonight ...
how many points does Moore win by or is anybody here calling an epic Jones upset victory?

Moore by 6.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on December 12, 2017, 09:24:50 AM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/roy-moore-now-claims-he-knows-none-of-his-accusers-contradicting-his-earlier-defenses/article/2642549

?  Is this supposed to address her forging part of the yearbook and then lying about it?  


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 12, 2017, 11:46:46 AM
?  Is this supposed to address her forging part of the yearbook and then lying about it?  

leading question.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on December 12, 2017, 11:50:14 AM
leading question.

Rhetorical question. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 12, 2017, 07:56:43 PM
my prayers apparently worked this time  ;D


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: LittleJ on December 12, 2017, 08:02:46 PM
Where’s the proof.

Umm law enforcement had to keep a good eye for your child molesting Republican at the mall.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 12, 2017, 09:17:17 PM
I'm surprised he survived it to the election to be honest. Lots of media coverage and plotting going on.... After the forged yearbook you have to ask yourself what the hell was going on down there?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2017, 09:34:20 PM
Umm law enforcement had to keep a good eye for your child molesting Republican at the mall.

Where’s the proof he was banned from a mall?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: The Ugly on December 12, 2017, 09:43:56 PM
A pederast. 14 year-olds, Dude.



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2017, 09:44:44 PM
A pederast. 14 year-olds, Dude.



Proof?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on December 12, 2017, 11:26:08 PM
Moore by 6.

this is the reason I didn't comment and said he would win..

fox news had him behind by 10 percent.. and from the field we were told in the white house that he was bleeding,, i did want him to win but the control.. the social and cultural control as i said on here before a day ago.. the social and cultural control of the fake news media and deep state complex over America is still too strong,, it may very well end up with a legit civil war,,


gh15 approved
lion of Judah


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: The Ugly on December 12, 2017, 11:43:31 PM
Proof?

Facts, of course. Forgot how passionate you were about truth and whatnot.

Seems ol' Roy frequented some satanic pizza joint in DC, where he was busting adolescent hymens at an alarming rate. Wiki uncovered some of his coded pedotalk in the Hillary dump, which included correspondence with the filthy Podestas, the Illuminati, and several high-level CIA lizards, who handled the trafficking end. Snopes's sympathetic "debunking" cleared dozens and dozens of vile Democrats, but they hung the lone Republican out to dry. He also murdered several babies in the basement. Some sorta ritualistic sacrifice, turns out.

100% true, all of it.
  


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 13, 2017, 05:58:08 AM
Moore... LOL.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mazrim on December 13, 2017, 06:23:56 AM
I can easily see (and have posted before) the republicans being beaten soundly in the midterms due to republicans getting sick of voting and then them not doing anything plus the constant high of emotions of the Democratic Party being told they have to vote or everyone will die, etc.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 13, 2017, 06:27:16 AM
this is the reason I didn't comment and said he would win..

fox news had him behind by 10 percent.. and from the field we were told in the white house that he was bleeding,, i did want him to win but the control.. the social and cultural control as i said on here before a day ago.. the social and cultural control of the fake news media and deep state complex over America is still too strong,, it may very well end up with a legit civil war,,


gh15 approved
lion of Judah

I give credit where it’s due. Dems did a good job of getting out the vote especially blacks. That’s why Jones won. Moore was pretty much absent in the last week and it ended up costing him.

I can easily see (and have posted before) the republicans being beaten soundly in the midterms due to republicans getting sick of voting and then them not doing anything plus the constant high of emotions of the Democratic Party being told they have to vote or everyone will die, etc.

I can see the Dems  picking up a few seats in Congress but nothing substantial. Many of the open seats are in states that Trump won. This election was somewhat of an aberration simply because you had an extremely flawed candidate. I imagine it was tough for people in Alabama to get to enthusiastic about him.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2017, 06:30:26 AM
Moore was a clown and a goober.   A weirdo but would have been a reliable GOP vote.  FAIL


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: LittleJ on December 13, 2017, 07:26:33 AM
Moore was a clown and a goober.   A weirdo but would have been a reliable GOP vote.  FAIL

Repub tears, i love it :D


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 13, 2017, 07:45:52 AM
Repub tears, i love it :D

You’re kind always projects its own qualities on other people. Some of us take a loss in stride dust ourselves off and move forward. I understand this type of mentality is a foreign concept to you.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mazrim on December 13, 2017, 07:47:33 AM
Repub tears, i love it :D
That doesn't even make sense in relation to how he posted.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2017, 08:24:29 AM
Repub tears, i love it :D


What are you talking about? 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 13, 2017, 08:48:17 AM

What are you talking about? 

This is how they react to a loss so they think everybody else reacts the same way:

(https://wearechange.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/00000000000-5.jpg)


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2017, 10:23:29 AM
This is how they react to a loss so they think everybody else reacts the same way:

(https://wearechange.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/00000000000-5.jpg)

Repubs ran a clown and lost.  Democrats run equally bad candidates and win and lose.   Repubs have to pick better candidates.  These fagflakes are so invested in everything anti-trump its ridiculous


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 13, 2017, 10:35:26 AM
I'm surprised he survived it to the election to be honest. Lots of media coverage and plotting going on.... After the forged yearbook you have to ask yourself what the hell was going on down there?

good example of political bias. It was clear that she added the date and location. She said as much. The message and signature was proven to be Moore's or at least concluded to be Moores by a former FBI documents expert. The report is on line if you care to read it. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 13, 2017, 10:39:22 AM
ironically, ANY other candidate that ran against Moore and lost, would have beaten Jones. I hope the republicans learn from this and pick more palatable candidates


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on December 13, 2017, 10:54:38 AM
good example of political bias. It was clear that she added the date and location. She said as much. The message and signature was proven to be Moore's or at least concluded to be Moores by a former FBI documents expert. The report is on line if you care to read it. 

A good example of political bias is failing to acknowledge that she forged part of the yearbook entry, lied about it, then came clean.  This is all online if you care to read it.   :D


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on December 13, 2017, 10:55:39 AM
A successful high tech lynching.  The Washington Post reporter is probably going to win a Pulitzer Prize.

I guess Jones keeps the seat warm till 2018? 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 13, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
ironically, ANY other candidate that ran against Moore and lost, would have beaten Jones. I hope the republicans learn from this and pick more palatable candidates

I give the credit to the Democratic strategists. They saw they had a Republican candidate with unenthusiastic support which might affect white voter turnout. So, they made a huge effort to get out the black vote. It worked.

Bill Mitchell is usually a pretty sharp pollster but he couldn’t understand why there were these big blocks of votes coming in seemingly all for Jones. It was the black counties which voted 95% for him.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/d02cce397b090fcc781639f48b556931/tumblr_p0vzy1VbSJ1wh69nmo1_540.jpg)



Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 13, 2017, 10:58:07 AM
I give the credit to the Democratic strategist. They saw they had a Republican candidate with unenthusiastic support which might affect white voter turnout. So, they made a huge effort to get out the black vote. It worked.

Bill Mitchell is usually a pretty sharp pollster but he couldn’t understand why there were these big blocks of votes coming in seemingly all for Jones. It was the black counties which voted 95% for him.

the 20,000 write in votes were not democratic voters. That made the difference. There were 20,000 Republicans that couldn't bring themselves to vote in such a turd. Kudos to them


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 13, 2017, 10:59:20 AM
That's rich.. 7% of black male voters voted for a guy who thought we were better off during slavery...  :)


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 13, 2017, 10:59:36 AM
the 20,000 write in votes were not democratic voters. That made the difference. There were 20,000 Republicans that couldn't bring themselves to vote in such a turd. Kudos to them

Without the black vote, Moore would’ve won easily. It would not have been close.

This is why the Democratic Party panders to blacks to such an absurd extent. It’s almost a guaranteed 10% every election. If that were to change to even 60/40, Dems would never win.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2017, 11:23:58 AM
Without the black vote, Moore would’ve won easily. It would not have been close.

This is why the Democratic Party panders to blacks to such an absurd extent. It’s almost a guaranteed 10% every election. If that were to change to even 60/40, Dems would never win.

Getting free crap for a lifetime is a pretty good bargain to just have to vote once and awhile. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 13, 2017, 12:05:25 PM
Getting free crap for a lifetime is a pretty good bargain to just have to vote once and awhile.  

It’s also that blacks are disproportionately represented in government jobs. Democrats are also the party of big government.

I recommend following a few left wing sites on Twitter. You really get the feel for the party line. Daily Kos is cannonizing blacks for bringing home the big win. Meanwhile all of the predominantly black cities in Alabama have some of the highest crime rates in the country.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: LittleJ on December 13, 2017, 03:34:21 PM
Im still waiting for my free stuff in the mail. Am I doing something wrong? ???


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: LittleJ on December 13, 2017, 03:38:04 PM
Repubs ran a clown and lost.  Democrats run equally bad candidates and win and lose.   Repubs have to pick better candidates.  These fagflakes are so invested in everything anti-trump its ridiculous

Excuses excuses :D


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: AbrahamG on December 13, 2017, 05:20:02 PM
That doesn't even make sense in relation to how he posted.

That's because you are stupid.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on December 14, 2017, 01:44:02 AM
the 20,000 write in votes were not democratic voters. That made the difference. There were 20,000 Republicans that couldn't bring themselves to vote in such a turd. Kudos to them

moore would win 2-3 points if generation x whores would stay home like they usually do.. and if their daughters were not a-sexual neo fascist "feminists"

this is the deasease.. this is wht we need to get rid off.. so while roy moore was little kookoo in his colourful image and style.. but was never proven to be sexual predator.. and wil never be proven.. while roy moore was a little kookoo portrayed.. others after him will learn how to destroy these neo fascism.. because they will see that if they don't destroy it............. it! destroys! them!

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: chaos on December 14, 2017, 09:33:53 AM
the 20,000 write in votes were not democratic voters. That made the difference. There were 20,000 Republicans that couldn't bring themselves to vote in such a turd. Kudos to them
Speaking of which I thought I saw a headline yesterday about them allowing convicted felons to register and vote in this election. True?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2017, 10:21:32 AM
Speaking of which I thought I saw a headline yesterday about them allowing convicted felons to register and vote in this election. True?

doubt it


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on December 14, 2017, 10:49:50 AM
Speaking of which I thought I saw a headline yesterday about them allowing convicted felons to register and vote in this election. True?

Maybe you're thinking of Virginia?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mazrim on December 14, 2017, 01:27:29 PM
Maybe you're thinking of Virginia?
I saw it in several places too. Not sure if it was from one of those sites that are the right sides equivalent to CNN though.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mazrim on December 14, 2017, 01:32:09 PM


I can see the Dems  picking up a few seats in Congress but nothing substantial. Many of the open seats are in states that Trump won. This election was somewhat of an aberration simply because you had an extremely flawed candidate. I imagine it was tough for people in Alabama to get to enthusiastic about him.
The big fear from my end is that I do believe that democrats/liberals do outnumber the other side due to schooling, media,  etc. over the years. Didn't think too much about the loss in Virginia (governor) but heard today that the Republican candidate had the most votes ever for a republican candidate and still lost. That's not a good sign.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2017, 02:52:19 PM
The big fear from my end is that I do believe that democrats/liberals do outnumber the other side due to schooling, media,  etc. over the years. Didn't think too much about the loss in Virginia (governor) but heard today that the Republican candidate had the most votes ever for a republican candidate and still lost. That's not a good sign.

Similar story about how the Republicans redistricted Alabama to insure during normal elections, even if a Democratic candidate got the same turn out Jones did, Republicans would win. 


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: mazrim on December 14, 2017, 06:56:55 PM
Similar story about how the Republicans redistricted Alabama to insure during normal elections, even if a Democratic candidate got the same turn out Jones did, Republicans would win. 
My point was that all else being equal I simply think there are more democrats then republicans if I was unclear/rambling with my other post. To your point, that advantage works in most cases but not in some others.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: gh15 on December 15, 2017, 12:41:00 AM
roy moore pay the price of neo fascism.. it is small price in the south.. its not such a big deal.. dug jones wont be any diferent and if he is he will be defeated very soon since he will need to run again,,

republicrats didn't help moore.. they left him to be eaten by neo fascism..

in the end of the day this didn't hurt the president brand.. not even one bit.. it was all roy moore thingy which was faulty candidate to begin with but should! have been elected becaue he done nothing wrong.. and nothing will be proven becaue its bunch of balonie like the rest of the males who are being dragged by the neo fascist whores of the first quarter of the 21st century

gh15 approved
lion of Judah


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on December 28, 2017, 10:13:48 AM
He needs to give it up already.

Moore says he took polygraph after election to confirm accusations were false
BY OLIVIA BEAVERS - 12/28/17

Republican Roy Moore says he completed a lie detector test after the Alabama Senate election concluded to prove the allegations of sexual misconduct are untrue as he seeks to challenge his loss to Democrat Doug Jones.

"Also provided in the complaint is an affidavit from Judge Roy Moore stating that he successfully completed a polygraph test confirming the representations of misconduct made against him during the campaign are completely false," Moore's campaign said in a Wednesday press release.

In a reliably Republican state, Moore's campaign became rocked by multiple allegations of sexual misconduct. Several women accused the former Alabama Supreme Court chief justice of touching them sexually when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s.

One woman says she was 14 years old when Moore touched her sexually. Another accuser said Moore assaulted her when she was 16 years old, pushing her head toward his crotch in a locked car.

Moore, who has repeatedly denied the allegations, has defiantly refused to concede in the Senate race — despite President Trump urging him to accept the results.

Moore submitted an election complaint late Wednesday alleging potential voter fraud that could have impacted the results enough to tip the race toward his opponent.

The court filing comes hours before a board meeting in which state officials were scheduled to certify the victory of Jones, the first Democrat in decades to win a Senate seat in Alabama.

Sam Coleman, a spokesman for Jones, described the court filing as a "desperate attempt by Roy Moore to subvert the will of the people [that] will not succeed."

"The election is over, it's time to move on," Coleman said in a statement to The Hill.

Moore is asking Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill to delay the meeting until an investigation can show whether voting "irregularities" impacted the election, telling his supporters to call Merrill, Gov. Kay Ivey and Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall to postpone the decision to certify Jones's victory.

“The purpose of the complaint is to preserve evidence of potential election fraud and to postpone the certification of Alabama’s Special Election by Secretary of State John Merrill until a thorough investigation of potential election fraud, that improperly altered the outcome of this election, is conducted,” Moore’s campaign said in a statement.

“We call on Secretary of State Merrill to delay certification until there is a thorough investigation,” the statement continued, while pointing to “three independent election experts” who say there was “election fraud sufficient to overturn the outcome of the election.”

Merrill told CNN on Thursday that Jones would be certified as the election's winner.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/366650-moore-says-he-took-polygraph-test-after-election-to-confirm-accusations


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Dos Equis on December 28, 2017, 10:15:02 AM
Roy Moore Files Lawsuit to Block Alabama Senate Result
Thursday, 28 Dec 2017

Failed candidate Roy Moore has doubled down on his claims of voter irregularities in Alabama's U.S. Senate race in a last-ditch effort to stop the certification of the Democratic opponent who pulled off a historic upset last month in a traditionally deep-red state.

Moore asked a judge late Wednesday to issue a restraining order to stop the state's canvassing board from certifying Doug Jones' victory on Thursday. But Secretary of State John Merrill told The Associated Press that Moore's action "is not going to delay certification and Doug Jones ... will be sworn in by Vice President Pence on the third of January."

A spokesman for Jones called Moore's action a "desperate attempt ... to subvert the will of the people," and said it "will not succeed."

"The election is over. It's time to move on," Sam Coleman wrote in an email.

Jones defeated Moore by about 20,000 votes in the Dec. 12 special election. Moore's campaign was deeply wounded by accusations of sexual misconduct involving teenage girls decades ago. Moore has denied the accusations and says he has taken and passed a polygraph test to prove they are false.

Moore's attorney wrote in the wide-ranging complaint that he believed there were irregularities during the election, including that voters may have been brought in from other states. He attached a statement from a poll worker that she had noticed licenses from Georgia and North Carolina as people signed in to vote.

The complaint also noted the higher-than-expected turnout in the race, particularly in Jefferson County, and said that Moore's numbers were lower than straight-ticket Republican voting in about 20 Jefferson County precincts. The complaint asks for a fraud investigation and eventually a new election.

"This is not a Republican or Democrat issue as election integrity should matter to everyone," Moore said in a statement released Wednesday announcing the complaint.

Merrill said he has so far not found any evidence of voter fraud, but he has said that his office will investigate any complaint Moore submits.

Moore has sent several fundraising emails to supporters asking for donations to investigate claims of voter fraud.

Jones and Moore were competing to fill the U.S. Senate seat that previously belonged to Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/moore-lawsuit-alabama/2017/12/28/id/834037/


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Straw Man on December 28, 2017, 10:18:38 AM
Roy just can't believe that Jesus and his Daddy would let him lose

It's just not possible


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: chaos on December 28, 2017, 05:53:42 PM
Since this is on a smaller scale, it will be interesting to see if they can find and prove any voter fraud.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: AbrahamG on December 29, 2017, 05:23:31 PM
Since this is on a smaller scale, it will be interesting to see if they can find and prove any voter fraud.

No, but I'll bet if they would find voter intimidation in spades.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 29, 2017, 06:13:28 PM
No, but I'll bet if they would find voter intimidation in spades.

Oh, you mean like when Obama ran in 2012?


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: AbrahamG on December 29, 2017, 07:17:00 PM
Oh, you mean like when Obama ran in 2012?

You are truly one of the great thinkers of our time.


Title: Re: Roy Moore
Post by: chaos on December 29, 2017, 08:15:33 PM
No, but I'll bet if they would find voter intimidation in spades.
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