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"Trying my best to get these legs bigger despite all the challenges I face. Right leg and foot are completely numb and left leg is partially numb. I’ll be having surgery on my spine January 12th to hopefully fix all my problems which includes excruciating pain in my lower back and left leg. The downfall will be I won’t be able to workout or train for 6 months which is the second time a major surgery has required major time off from training and me having fun since that is my hobby. Sometimes it is what it is and we have to do what is required to make us better."
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcQbd3eDHKw/?taken-by=ronniecoleman8
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"Trying my best to get these legs bigger despite all the challenges I face. Right leg and foot are completely numb and left leg is partially numb. I’ll be having surgery on my spine January 12th to hopefully fix all my problems which includes excruciating pain in my lower back and left leg. The downfall will be I won’t be able to workout or train for 6 months which is the second time a major surgery has required major time off from training and me having fun since that is my hobby. Sometimes it is what it is and we have to do what is required to make us better."
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcQbd3eDHKw/?taken-by=ronniecoleman8
What he needs to do make himself better is to find another hobby. Hopefully, he watches that Dorian documentary while he is recovering.
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No pain, no gain! Right? ???
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Ridiculous.
You would think this guy is some football player who doesn't know when to retire.
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Can't see Ronnie anymore without holding back tears
I need to watch some of his old Dvds pronto !
:'(
WoooSHHHHHHH
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He ll be back. MR O 2020
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He just had that 11 hour back surgery redo fusion at the beginning of 2016 and he's still not walking well. :-\
Seems like yesterday he was just having his hips done.
Yeah buddywooooshhhhh
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Man, that's crazy. His body is like a junkyard now.
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all because of..
and..
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What he needs to do make himself better is to find another hobby. Hopefully, he watches that Dorian documentary while he is recovering.
Well, I surmise that these surgeries have little to do with his current training. I mean, even if he wasn't currently training, he would likely still need all these surgeries.
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Well, I surmise that these surgeries have little to do with his current training. I mean, even if he wasn't currently training, he would likely still need all these surgeries.
are you retarded?? Have you seen him train???
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are you retarded?? Have you seen him train???
Are you saying his current training regime is contributing to all of his current surgeries? ??? ???
Seems more plausible that years of heavy lifting while competing is the main culprit.
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"Whatever it takes..." chronic pain is no joke, and addiction to painkillers tends to make thinks even worse. Not worth it imo
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Nothing 4 grams of deca won't fix.
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Are you saying his current training regime is contributing to all of his current surgeries? ??? ???
Seems more plausible that years of heavy lifting while competing is the main culprit.
In the few videos on here, he displayed a strong disregard to how his body(aka Frankenyard) should be treated... he used TOO heavy a weight, bad form and abused his operated on back as some kind of "leverage ramp"... cruising on his pain meds.
It's always easy to criticize, BUT the only thing he should have done after competing is reverse hypers and thousands of reps with very light weight to build up what was left from the heavy training days. If he kept this up, along with hormones, he would maybe look better.
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In the few videos on here, he displayed a strong disregard to how his body(aka Frankenyard) should be treated... he used TOO heavy a weight, bad form and abused his operated on back as some kind of "leverage ramp"... cruising on his pain meds.
It's always easy to criticize, BUT the only thing he should have done after competing is reverse hypers and thousands of reps with very light weight to build up what was left from the heavy training days. If he kept this up, along with hormones, he would maybe look better.
Yeah, I rarely watched his current videos, but it didn't seem like he was going that heavy to cause such damage. Guess he was. ??? ???
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Two of the most damaging back exercices :
For the rest, it is clear he trained too heavy relative his capabilities skeleton.
He's only 53 years old 8)
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In the few videos on here, he displayed a strong disregard to how his body(aka Frankenyard) should be treated... he used TOO heavy a weight, bad form and abused his operated on back as some kind of "leverage ramp"... cruising on his pain meds.
It's always easy to criticize, BUT the only thing he should have done after competing is reverse hypers and thousands of reps with very light weight to build up what was left from the heavy training days. If he kept this up, along with hormones, he would maybe look better.
From someone with spine injuries your exactly correct. I have avoided surgery by being very cognizant on what area of my spine is being stressed when training.
Many of his videos make me cringe; It's not only his C spine and lumbar he also has two hip replacements and who knows what else.
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Nothing 4 grams of deca won't fix.
Nah...a gram a day of Glucosamine Sulphate will sort him out
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Two of the most damaging back exercices :
For the rest, it is clear he trained too heavy relative his capabilities skeleton.
He's only 53 years old 8)
I’ve been saying this for years. His incredible response to drugs had him constantly overwhelming a structure NOT sufficient to withstand such stresses.
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I’ve been saying this for years. His incredible response to drugs had him constantly overwhelming a structure NOT sufficient to withstand such stresses.
human beings are not meant to weigh 300lbs plus....
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human beings are not meant to weigh 300lbs plus....
That’s an extremely broad generalization.
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That’s an extremely broad generalization.
and extremely accurate.
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and extremely accurate.
I very much disagree.
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Ronnie is a mutant. He's a super-strong hyper-responder. But a Mensa candidate he is not. He only knew one way to train--100% all out, balls to the wall.
Coleman's 2003 condition was a level never reached before, and possibly never again, unless someone else comes along willing to punish their body enough to take it to the next level, and pay the price that Ronnie is paying now.
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and extremely accurate.
I would say no human being "not enhanced and maintaining an active lifestyle while staying at a healthy bodyfat %" will ever get to 300lbs unless they are 7' tall or more.
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I would say no human being "not enhanced and maintaining an active lifestyle while staying at a healthy bodyfat %" will ever get to 300lbs unless they are 7' tall or more.
do you think that defeats or validates my point?
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Ronnie is a mutant. He's a super-strong hyper-responder. But a Mensa candidate he is not. He only knew one way to train--100% all out, balls to the wall.
Coleman's 2003 condition was a level never reached before, and possibly never again, unless someone else comes along willing to punish their body enough to take it to the next level, and pay the price that Ronnie is paying now.
With things going the way that they are now. Coleman like conditioning and weight, will never be seen, because Classic phyisque will take over.
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What he needs to do make himself better is to find another body. Hopefully, he watches that Dorian documentary while he is recovering.
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You guys are missing the point. I would rather have back surgery and pain walking than a) be dead or a walking heart attack like McCarver/Piana or b)be like a football player whose brain is fucked from 1000s of collisions. Physical pain is the price of being a professional athlete.
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do you think that defeats or validates my point?
;D
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You guys are missing the point. I would rather have back surgery and pain walking than a) be dead or a walking heart attack like McCarver/Piana or b)be like a football player whose brain is fucked from 1000s of collisions. Physical pain is the price of being a professional athlete.
But there is also being addicted to pain killers, and using said painkillers as a tool to keep working out and destroying one's body. This is due to the fact that Ronnie has not moved on, he is still living in the past, and not looking preserve the body that he has.
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That which does not cripple Ronnie Coleman makes him disinterested.
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Poor Ronnie and he has 227749 kids to provide for. :-\
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all because of..
and..
When I was a teenager I was so impressed by those videos.
Nowadays, it doesn't seem like a good idea anymore.
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When I was a teenager I was so impressed by those videos.
Nowadays, it doesn't seem like a good idea anymore.
x2. Those were the days when I believed that IFBB pros were natural. :D :D
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At the end of this one when he takes his vitamins there are like six prescription bottles on the table. I'm going to presume one of those was bp medication.
25M views yep yep
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His body is just completely destroyed. Just sad.
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It's not as though he never thought this would happen to him. The reality of this is that Ronnie Coleman never thought...period.
He is that dumb. He is fast becoming a frail old man and has no one to blame but himself.
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"Trying my best to get these legs bigger despite all the challenges I face. Right leg and foot are completely numb and left leg is partially numb. I’ll be having surgery on my spine January 12th to hopefully fix all my problems which includes excruciating pain in my lower back and left leg. The downfall will be I won’t be able to workout or train for 6 months which is the second time a major surgery has required major time off from training and me having fun since that is my hobby. Sometimes it is what it is and we have to do what is required to make us better."
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcQbd3eDHKw/?taken-by=ronniecoleman8
OMG get the fuck out of the gym idiot!
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Does the guy have any money left?
He has like ten kids with like 4 or 5 different women.
He is every black cliché known to mankind.
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Does the guy have any money left?
He has like ten kids with like 4 or 5 different women.
He is every black cliché known to mankind.
Yes, he is the Black Matt C in terms of child support payouts. The only difference (so far) is that I still remember how many kids I have. ;D
He seriously needs to put down the weights, take up a speed walking program, and focus on his 10 kids...
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At the end of this one when he takes his vitamins there are like six prescription bottles on the table. I'm going to presume one of those was bp medication.
25M views yep yep
he was taking BP meds along with Cholesterol meds (statins) and they will fuck you up big time.
Again, he was too dumb to know when to stop
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At the end of this one when he takes his vitamins there are like six prescription bottles on the table. I'm going to presume one of those was bp medication.
25M views yep yep
In the beginning of the first vid, that is Cory Mathews. Ronnie's half brother.
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He seriously needs to put down the weights, take up a speed walking program, and focus on his 10 kids...
I do not think he will able to move about again without any problem. His nerve, bone and other tissue damage are irreversible.
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I do not think he will able to move about again without any problem. His nerve, bone and other tissue damage are irreversible.
It will get only worse ... plus the way he trains its simply hurtful to watch ...
When he's benching his arms look like they will snap any second ....and they will
WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Does the guy have any money left?
He has like ten kids with like 4 or 5 different women.
He is every black cliché known to mankind.
He has a successful supplement line.
Ronnie is getting ready for one more show. The Break Down Show, where we get to watch in real time, Ronnie reducing himself to being in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.
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But there is also being addicted to pain killers, and using said painkillers as a tool to keep working out and destroying one's body. This is due to the fact that Ronnie has not moved on, he is still living in the past, and not looking preserve the body that he has.
Yup. And no amount of those pain killers will ease the fact that he is just plain stoopid. If that were not so, he would never have continued to fall down the stairs of life and film it for everyone to watch on YouTube.
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He’s yammering about putting size on his legs and he’s numb in each limb.
The idiocy is frightening.
Ronnie, it’s OVER.
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He’s yammering about putting size on his legs and he’s numb in each limb.
The idiocy is frightening.
Ronnie, it’s OVER.
The numbness is an unfair advantage because he can train PAST failure, the pain is irrelevant as he can't feel the lactic acid build up.
He will be putting on size in no time.
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The greatest feeling you can get in a gym, or the most satisfying feeling you can get in the gym is... The Numb. Let's say you train your legs. Sensation is leaving your extremities and that's what we call The Numb.
~Ronnie Coleman
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The greatest feeling you can get in a gym, or the most satisfying feeling you can get in the gym is... The Numb. Let's say you train your legs. Sensation is leaving your extremities and that's what we call The Numb.
~Ronnie Coleman
;D
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Robbie should have just done a Shawn ray in 07. Just step away from everything and become skinnyfat....but healthy. Living a normal life.
At what point is he going to stop?
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Would rather train moderately hard for 40-50 years than hardcore for 10-20 in the end its about the lifestyle and the love for training and living the bodybuilding lifestyle not the mass weights and quantities of drugs one can take.
I always see it as a real shame when guys like Dorian and others don't live the training eat well lifestyle forever, but then again maybe we all got into it for different things just the guys from the 60,70, and 80s when drugs wee a part of then sport not all of it seem to train for their whole lives rather than just competition.
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train at 90% for a full year injury free or go 100% and be injured for three months.
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Robbie should have just done a Shawn ray in 07. Just step away from everything and become skinnyfat....but healthy. Living a normal life.
At what point is he going to stop?
He won't stop because that is all that he knows. That is what makes him happy. This is what defines him. He has not done what Dorian has done, which is to move into a new lifestyle, and leave the the life of bodybuilding behind. Call it mental illness, or stubbornness, I don't know.
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At this point, the only thing that surprises me is the fact that he's still alive.
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At this point, the only thing that surprises me is the fact that he's still alive.
he think he is propped up by very strong pain meds...
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At this point, the only thing that surprises me is the fact that he's still alive.
I've listed most of the surgeries he's had and the last one being eleven hours. Being intubated and under anesthesia takes a lot out of someone not to mention recovering from all those invasive surgeries. I'm actually quite shocked they would put him under again two years after his last long surgery at Baylor of all places.
At about 1:50 it shows how he's trained after retirement and between surgeries. One of the bolts broke training after his first lumbar back surgery.
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The worst thing Ronnie could do is stop lifting
entirely. No he shouldn't go heavy and swing the weights
but he needs to activate those nerves. His legs are twigs, what do you think would happen if he ceased loading them altogether?
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He is small and useless to us now....
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he think he is propped up by very strong pain meds...
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"Trying my best to get these legs bigger despite all the challenges I face. Right leg and foot are completely numb and left leg is partially numb. I’ll be having surgery on my spine January 12th to hopefully fix all my problems which includes excruciating pain in my lower back and left leg. The downfall will be I won’t be able to workout or train for 6 months which is the second time a major surgery has required major time off from training and me having fun since that is my hobby. Sometimes it is what it is and we have to do what is required to make us better."
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcQbd3eDHKw/?taken-by=ronniecoleman8
that 800lbs squat is having a savage revenge on him these days
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The worst thing Ronnie could do is stop lifting
entirely. No he shouldn't go heavy and swing the weights
but he needs to activate those nerves. His legs are twigs, what do you think would happen if he ceased loading them altogether?
How much strength does he really need? He should be doing yoga, resistance band training, stuff like that
Like WalterWhite said, I'm surprised that he's finding surgeons to keep operating on him .. he's obviously not maintaining the lifestyle changes needed to support a positive outcome to the surgeries
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I like Ronnie as a person. He was always friendly with me. But his inferior intellect was always obvious.
He is so profoundly stupid, though, it’s alarming.
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He needs to stop. My mother had the numbness in her feet/one leg from herniations and it is no joke. Guy is going to be in a scooter forever if he keeps playing games... He's honestly nuts to be running anything past trt at this stage...
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all because of..
and..
Probably....
But there are lots of powerlifters who lift this heavy and don't end up like Ronnie.
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I've listed most of the surgeries he's had and the last one being eleven hours. Being intubated and under anesthesia takes a lot out of someone not to mention recovering from all those invasive surgeries. I'm actually quite shocked they would put him under again two years after his last long surgery at Baylor of all places.
At about 1:50 it shows how he's trained after retirement and between surgeries. One of the bolts broke training after his first lumbar back surgery.
My back hurts just from watching that.
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My back hurts just from watching that.
And I presume that you never had back surgery. Imagine how Ronnie's back must feel doing that weight. It must be crippling. :-\ :-\
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And I presume that you never had back surgery. Imagine how Ronnie's back must feel doing that weight. It must be crippling. :-\ :-\
I'm only 185 or so lbs at 5'7 and squat 405 still at 49 for decent reps and that is plenty for me and takes a few days to recoup ,I have no back issues but I feel it...my legs are strong strength and body part wise.
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And I presume that you never had back surgery. Imagine how Ronnie's back must feel doing that weight. It must be crippling. :-\ :-\
When I was a naive teenager I used to squat as much as I could (something like 250 pounds for 8 reps lol :D). That didn't last long.
One day I used too much weight and my back was hurting so much I couldn't even walk back home.
I decided to never do "heavy" squats again. I accepted my obvious limitations and since then I've only lifted 70-100 pounds for 10 reps and I feel just fine.
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I can't fathom how Ronnie can be so stubborn and bear the pain. He must be completely high on opioids in all those recent training videos.
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When I was a naive teenager I used to squat as much as I could (something like 250 pounds for 8 reps lol :D). That didn't last long.
One day I used too much weight and my back was hurting so much I couldn't even walk back home.
I decided to never do "heavy" squats again. I accepted my obvious limitations and since then I've only lifted 70-100 pounds for 10 reps and I feel just fine.
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I can't fathom how Ronnie can be so stubborn and bear the pain. He must be completely high on opioids in all those recent training videos.
LEGS RESPOND WELL at higher rep intervals as well 12-20 moderate weights'relative'to ones strength levels..
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I'm only 185 or so lbs at 5'7 and squat 405 still at 49 for decent reps and that is plenty for me and takes a few days to recoup ,I have no back issues but I feel it...my legs are strong strength and body part wise.
I am 230lb and 52, no squats/deadlifts
I just do hacks and machine pendulum hacks and seated and standing leg curls
No bent over rows, just various pulldowns.
I train smart...
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I am 230lb and 52, no squats/deadlifts
I just do hacks and machine pendulum hacks and seated and standing leg curls
No bent over rows, just various pulldowns.
I train smart...
I know and you have great legs to show for it,,,i have changed a bit on what I do for legs ,but I still enjoy some squats too,,i happen to be able to go at still..i am a pump trainer for the most part,,i feel that squats are still good for overall leg thickness..i love hacks and leg pressing as well with various foot stances...
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I know and you have great legs to show for it,,,i have changed a bit on what I do for legs ,but I still enjoy some squats too,,i happen to be able to go at still..i am a pump trainer for the most part,,i feel that squats are still good for overall leg thickness..i love hacks and leg pressing as well with various foot stances...
On top of that, BE THERE/UKJEFF/SIMPLE SIMON, is natural, eats one grain of rice per day, and drinks 6oz of water.
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I know and you have great legs to show for it,,,i have changed a bit on what I do for legs ,but I still enjoy some squats too,,i happen to be able to go at still..i am a pump trainer for the most part,,i feel that squats are still good for overall leg thickness..i love hacks and leg pressing as well with various foot stances...
you look great for it, just dont blow your back...
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I am 230lb and 52, no squats/deadlifts
I just do hacks and machine pendulum hacks and seated and standing leg curls
No bent over rows, just various pulldowns.
I train smart...
Hacks are terribly dangerous.
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you look great for it, just dont blow your back...
we have similar training methods I read your threads/posts age is irrelevant ,,and of course I'm aware of back issues springing up out of nowhere,,
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Hacks are terribly dangerous.
not the way I do them, 40k max...constant tension mid range reps and partials..
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I am 230lb and 52, no squats/deadlifts
I just do hacks and machine pendulum hacks and seated and standing leg curls
No bent over rows, just various pulldowns.
I train smart...
Any cable/machine rows?
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Any cable/machine rows?
I use one of these
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Any cable/machine rows?
BE THERE/UK JEFF/SIMPLE SIMON, does not even work out. He just looks at the weights and grows! FACT!!
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Nah...a gram a day of Glucosamine Sulphate will sort him out
I just started taking Glucosamine Sulphate combined with Chondroitin and MSM. I'm also taking Collagen, Curcumin (aka Turmeric) and Omega 3 (fish oil), all for my lower back pain and pelvis (iliac) that was fucked up due to a lower abdominal tear I had almost a year and a half ago. Not fun!
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My back hurts just from watching that.
Notice he has people cheering him on while he trains in this reckless and stupid manner, after having his surgeries.
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In the beginning of the first vid, that is Cory Mathews. Ronnie's half brother.
Do you think Ronnie has more Half Brothers or kids?
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I just started taking Glucosamine Sulphate combined with Chondroitin and MSM. I'm also taking Collagen, Curcumin (aka Turmeric) and Omega 3 (fish oil), all for my lower back pain and pelvis (iliac) that was fucked up due to a lower abdominal tear I had almost a year and a half ago. Not fun!
How did that happen? Ouch..
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Reminds me a bit of the wrestler 'Dynamite Kid' who is now paralyzed.
He injured his back, and masked the pain with painkillers and then ended up in a wheelchair.
The warning signs are very clear here for Ronnie Coleman.
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My back hurts just from watching that.
shit after watching that video i got back surgery
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Prime coleman training videos are cool, but nobody needs to squat or deadlift more than 400-500 pounds. Especially someone who's main focus is physique. It's almost impossible to get a younger lifter to understand that the body can only take so much punishment. Give it 5-10 years and I bet that Eric Bugenhagen guy will have some kind of major injury.
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Ronnie discusses surgery number eight.
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they should just fit a zip to his low back save keep cutting him open...
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Do you think Ronnie has more Half Brothers or kids?
Yeah. His mom had several kids.
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How did that happen? Ouch..
I tweaked my lower ab in the gym doing hanging sit ups with a 45 pound plate and then full blown tore it about a week later after having caught myself midway from falling while having slipped on wet surface while hiking in the woods. That was July 2016. Since then nothing has been the same for me. My lower back and sides are fucked up and seem to be in chronic protection mode. I might even make a separate post for this on here seeking out advice.
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I just started taking Glucosamine Sulphate combined with Chondroitin and MSM. I'm also taking Collagen, Curcumin (aka Turmeric) and Omega 3 (fish oil), all for my lower back pain and pelvis (iliac) that was fucked up due to a lower abdominal tear I had almost a year and a half ago. Not fun!
Notice any difference with the supplements?
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Ronnie needs brain surgery. He won't be satisfied until he's completely crippled.
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Notice any difference with the supplements?
Just started taking them. I'll report back in a month or two to let you know.
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Ronnie needs mental health treatment. He won't be satisfied until he's completely crippled.
I agree.
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I agree.
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He deserves the injuries, i have three titanium discs never trained hard or heavy agin still go 6 days a week, just dont see the point in going through that recovery again. Happy to concede the lighter physique and less intense workouts as a pay off for longer less injury prone life, age and slowing down to accommodate it is always a factor. Its beyond stupidity trying to train like he does post surgery.