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Title: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 20, 2017, 09:53:28 PM
He has been recorded many times over saying this tax reform would be bad for him. His "friends" were mad at him... We now know what we suspected at the time, he was outright lying. But does it matter to his base? I think not. 


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2017, 11:18:37 PM
What did he lie about? It was a campaign promise.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Yamcha on December 21, 2017, 04:16:44 AM
He has been recorded many times over saying this tax reform would be bad for him. His "friends" were mad at him... We now know what we suspected at the time, he was outright lying. But does it matter to his base? I think not. 

Yes, this will be the end of Trump for sure!


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: QuietYou on December 21, 2017, 04:27:45 AM
Yes, this will be the end of Trump for sure!

The thing about the diet cokes was one of the most feeble and desperate attempts at a reach i've ever seen by the left. They just get more and more pathetic by the day.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 21, 2017, 04:45:37 AM
Iím starting to get the feeling that there are some people of the liberal persuasion who donít like this Trump fellow: ???





Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: loco on December 21, 2017, 04:57:42 AM
He has been recorded many times over saying this tax reform would be bad for him. His "friends" were mad at him... We now know what we suspected at the time, he was outright lying. But does it matter to his base? I think not. 

Has any politician you have ever supported never lied?  Are you holding Trump to an unfair/unrealistic higher standard than any other politician?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5ns_AntP6o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg9m1F8B2_c


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: polychronopolous on December 21, 2017, 05:31:41 AM
He has been recorded many times over saying this tax reform would be bad for him. His "friends" were mad at him... We now know what we suspected at the time, he was outright lying. But does it matter to his base? I think not. 

It is worrisome that a man who so honorably served his community as Agnostic did could be so naive and child like in his thought process.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Pray_4_War on December 21, 2017, 06:40:20 AM
I love it that liberals think cutting taxes and letting people keep more of their own money is somehow a bad thing.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: loco on December 21, 2017, 06:46:30 AM
I love it that liberals think cutting taxes and letting people keep more of their own money is somehow a bad thing.

It's a bad thing only because the wealthy get to keep even more money and for much longer than the middle class.  Not fair.  Everyone must be equally miserable.  Obama did better in this regard, by doing nothing about it.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 21, 2017, 06:47:54 AM
It is worrisome that a man who so honorably served his community as Agnostic did could be so naive and child like in his thought process.

You have to consider where he worked. Iíve been around cops all my life and Iíve never seen one as liberal as Agnostic.


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Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: LittleJ on December 21, 2017, 07:42:15 AM
What do you tell your kids? Its okay to break the rules, lie, or sexual assault women(because they allow you to do it)


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: loco on December 21, 2017, 07:50:32 AM
What do you tell your kids? Its okay to break the rules, lie, or sexual assault women(because they allow you to do it)

Good question.  What do you tell your kids?

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Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 21, 2017, 08:25:10 AM
I see, but Obama and the entire left lying for 8 straight years about everything was ok? Geezuz ::)


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2017, 10:01:40 AM
Yes, this will be the end of Trump for sure!

lol  :D


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 21, 2017, 10:17:04 AM
Yeah, I dont like some of the bs from Trump - but so far his performance in office is going pretty good. 

I can tell mainly from the meltdowns of the hardcore left wing twinks on a daily basis he is effective. 


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2017, 10:24:25 AM
Yeah, I dont like some of the bs from Trump - but so far his performance in office is going pretty good. 

I can tell mainly from the meltdowns of the hardcore left wing twinks on a daily basis he is effective. 

Agree.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2017, 10:31:40 AM
I love it that liberals think cutting taxes and letting people keep more of their own money is somehow a bad thing.

I can't speak for liberals, but my take on this tax bill is that it does cut taxes for middle americans, temporarily, bigger cuts for corporations (rich) are permanent. Trump lied about how it will impact him. I guess as most of you are saying, so what, who expects their President to tell the truth. The tax reform bill is a start, but it doesn't go far enough. Hopefully it will be revisited over the next few years as the tax cuts for americans start expiring. 


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2017, 10:33:06 AM
What did he lie about? It was a campaign promise.

So you are saying, as President, Donald never said the tax bill would not be beneficial to him?


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2017, 10:34:27 AM
Yes, this will be the end of Trump for sure!

The diet coke story was ridiculous. CNN is obsessed with all things Donald Trump. That doesn't mean they don't get it right sometimes


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2017, 10:39:59 AM
It is worrisome that a man who so honorably served his community as Agnostic did could be so naive and child like in his thought process.

the fact I spent 30+ years  maintaining my integrity, in a world where what you say matters and truth is important, I'm sensitive to others lying. Spent a lot of time weeding through stories looking for the truth and non truth. It bugs the crap out of me that the President, who should be held to a higher standard, is so willy nilly with his lies and either nobody cares, or they can't see them because of bias. I've met pathological liars before, seeing one as President is like seeing a sexual predator as a marriage counselor. Makes no sense to me


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 21, 2017, 10:43:15 AM
I can't speak for liberals, but my take on this tax bill is that it does cut taxes for middle americans, temporarily, bigger cuts for corporations (rich) are permanent. Trump lied about how it will impact him. I guess as most of you are saying, so what, who expects their President to tell the truth. The tax reform bill is a start, but it doesn't go far enough. Hopefully it will be revisited over the next few years as the tax cuts for americans start expiring. 

 ::) 

A lot of wealthy NYrs are going to pay a lot more in taxes - isnt that what libfags such as yourself keep screaming for?


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2017, 10:45:01 AM
the fact I spent 30+ years  maintaining my integrity, in a world where what you say matters and truth is important, I'm sensitive to others lying. Spent a lot of time weeding through stories looking for the truth and non truth. It bugs the crap out of me that the President, who should be held to a higher standard, is so willy nilly with his lies and either nobody cares, or they can't see them because of bias. I've met pathological liars before, seeing one as President is like seeing a sexual predator as a marriage counselor. Makes no sense to me

And since you care so much about the truth, you also understand that a lie is something the person knows to be false at the time they make the statement, and not simply something that turns out to be false/inaccurate. 


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2017, 10:46:01 AM
And since you care so much about the truth, you also understand that a lie is something the person knows to be false at the time they make the statement, and not simply something that turns out to be false/inaccurate. 

Certainly


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 21, 2017, 10:46:40 AM
the fact I spent 30+ years  maintaining my integrity, in a world where what you say matters and truth is important, I'm sensitive to others lying. Spent a lot of time weeding through stories looking for the truth and non truth. It bugs the crap out of me that the President, who should be held to a higher standard, is so willy nilly with his lies and either nobody cares, or they can't see them because of bias. I've met pathological liars before, seeing one as President is like seeing a sexual predator as a marriage counselor. Makes no sense to me

Funny you never seemed to care when it was obama or hillary lying. 


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2017, 10:53:07 AM
Certainly


Are you making that distinction with Trump?


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2017, 10:58:43 AM
Funny you never seemed to care when it was obama or hillary lying. 

perhaps it seemed that way to you, but that wouldn't be the case. Perhaps it seems that way because of the quantity


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Yamcha on December 21, 2017, 11:07:30 AM
Are you making that distinction with Trump?

But he's literally Hitler.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 21, 2017, 11:39:37 AM
So you are saying, as President, Donald never said the tax bill would not be beneficial to him?

Wait, so you think this tax bill was specifically designed to benefit HIM? lol


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2017, 12:13:41 PM
But he's literally Hitler.

Not Agnostic's finest hour. 


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: James on December 21, 2017, 12:23:22 PM
James Woods just ripped Bill Kristol's head off and sh!t down his neck:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/943742096329940992


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2017, 12:47:40 PM
I can't speak for liberals, but my take on this tax bill is that it does cut taxes for middle americans, temporarily, bigger cuts for corporations (rich) are permanent. Trump lied about how it will impact him. I guess as most of you are saying, so what, who expects their President to tell the truth. The tax reform bill is a start, but it doesn't go far enough. Hopefully it will be revisited over the next few years as the tax cuts for americans start expiring. 

You think all "corporations" are "rich"?  You realize how many small business owners are included in that broad brush? 


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Straw Man on December 21, 2017, 01:59:02 PM
He has been recorded many times over saying this tax reform would be bad for him. His "friends" were mad at him... We now know what we suspected at the time, he was outright lying. But does it matter to his base? I think not. 

Lets face it

They're too fucking stupid to even understand that he's a liar



Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2017, 02:20:52 PM
::) 

A lot of wealthy NYrs are going to pay a lot more in taxes - isnt that what libfags such as yourself keep screaming for?

quiet, men are talking here


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2017, 02:22:01 PM
Wait, so you think this tax bill was specifically designed to benefit HIM? lol

No, never said that, I said he lied to you when he said he helped create this tax bill in spite of the fact it would cost him a fortune.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2017, 02:23:34 PM
Not Agnostic's finest hour. 

I'll break it down. Trump complains about bad press. He does bad things, they report it, hell, they even quote him and his tweets word for word, and then he complains about it... is the press at fault because he is so atrocious?


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2017, 02:25:30 PM
You think all "corporations" are "rich"?  You realize how many small business owners are included in that broad brush? 

?I think all rich people own corporations.. do you disagree?


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2017, 02:33:08 PM
I'll break it down. Trump complains about bad press. He does bad things, they report it, hell, they even quote him and his tweets word for word, and then he complains about it... is the press at fault because he is so atrocious?

Trump is not doing bad things more than 90 percent of the time.  The media coverage is the worst and most biased I've ever seen, and it was bad before Trump.  The problem is they are dealing with a brawler who doesn't need them, because he uses Twitter (not always in a good way), and speaks to the press more than Obama ever did.  He is constantly punching them in the mouth.  You could say they are both acting like little kids, but it is entertaining if nothing else.   

In any event, comparing Trump to Hitler was not your finest hour.  You really should just let that one go already.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2017, 02:35:07 PM
?I think all rich people own corporations.. do you disagree?

I disagree.  Not every wealthy person owns a corporation.  Some are solo, some form partnerships, some form limited liability companies.

You think all corporations are "rich"?  How exactly do you define "rich"? 


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2017, 02:35:08 PM
Trump is not doing bad things more than 90 percent of the time.  The media coverage is the worst and most biased I've ever seen, and it was bad before Trump.  The problem is they are dealing with a brawler who doesn't need them, because he uses Twitter (not always in a good way), and speaks to the press more than Obama ever did.  He is constantly punching them in the mouth.  You could say they are both acting like little kids, but it is entertaining if nothing else.   

In any event, comparing Trump to Hitler was not your finest hour.  You really should just let that one go already.

alright alright..Trump and Rosie O'Donnel then


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on December 21, 2017, 02:36:17 PM
Haha. Here's my plan. You keep paying the same amount of taxes and I'll pay less, but just wait for some pennies to fall out of my pockets for you. The rich love to let money slip through their fingers and down to you commoners. It's going to be great for you minions.

Trump voters = happy to be peasants.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2017, 02:49:23 PM
alright alright..Trump and Rosie O'Donnel then

Meh.  They have nothing in common either. 


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Straw Man on December 21, 2017, 02:57:43 PM
Trump is not doing bad things more than 90 percent of the time.  The media coverage is the worst and most biased I've ever seen, and it was bad before Trump.  The problem is they are dealing with a brawler who doesn't need them, because he uses Twitter (not always in a good way), and speaks to the press more than Obama ever did.  He is constantly punching them in the mouth.  You could say they are both acting like little kids, but it is entertaining if nothing else.   

In any event, comparing Trump to Hitler was not your finest hour.  You really should just let that one go already.

sure he does but you just don't see them as bad things.  When he lies, make racial slurs, nominates incompetent people, says things that are just fucking stupid, etc...   You and other Trumptards perceive those to be good things



Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Yamcha on December 21, 2017, 03:22:53 PM
I'll break it down. Trump complains about bad press. He does bad things, they report it, hell, they even quote him and his tweets word for word, and then he complains about it... is the press at fault because he is so atrocious?


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 21, 2017, 03:46:21 PM
sure he does but you just don't see them as bad things.  When he lies, make racial slurs, nominates incompetent people, says things that are just fucking stupid, etc...   You and other Trumptards perceive those to be good things



lol...go back to your safe space, cupcake


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: polychronopolous on December 21, 2017, 03:53:21 PM
lol...go back to your safe space, cupcake

 ;D


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Las Vegas on December 21, 2017, 03:53:36 PM
What were the racial slurs?  Not doubting it, but must've missed them.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Las Vegas on December 21, 2017, 03:56:07 PM
Oh, the Pocahontas thing.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Straw Man on December 21, 2017, 04:17:49 PM
lol...go back to your safe space, cupcake

LOL  - If I need any advice on tire flipping from a tiny tit you'll be the first one I call


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: AbrahamG on December 21, 2017, 04:24:01 PM
LOL  - If I need any advice on tire flipping from a tiny tit you'll be the first one I call

Fake Coach's signature move in a street fight with a person of average height or better is the
overhand left to the balls.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 22, 2017, 03:45:22 PM
As long as you Iím right...again, thatís that matters....lmao


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2017, 04:08:35 PM
He has been recorded many times over saying this tax reform would be bad for him. His "friends" were mad at him... We now know what we suspected at the time, he was outright lying. But does it matter to his base? I think not. 

His base wears earplugs and blinders. They are certainly a loyal bunch....so far.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2017, 04:10:20 PM
Funny you never seemed to care when it was obama or hillary lying. 

Politicians lie....this is a fact. It is the content of their lies that makes a difference.


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2017, 04:15:16 PM
Wait, so you think this tax bill was specifically designed to benefit HIM? lol

Don't you think it is peculiar that it does benefit him? Truth is that politicians need big donations to run their campaigns. Big donations = wealthy donors. It a simple game of "tit for tat".


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2017, 04:17:41 PM
As long as you Iím right...again, thatís that matters....lmao

Who determines if you are right?


Title: Re: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 22, 2017, 04:37:01 PM
Who determines if you are right?


Mmmmm...the outcome and the fact the only rebuttal are insults.