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Title: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Master Blaster on January 02, 2018, 04:55:26 PM
So Joe Rogan has been on this since the age of 38!? WTF?

Any thoughts on TRT? Dosages? 200 every 2 weeks seems a little low.

What about heart health?


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Joe Valentino on January 02, 2018, 04:59:08 PM
So Joe Rogan has been on this since the age of 38!? WTF?

Any thoughts on TRT? Dosages? 200 every 2 weeks seems a little low.

What about heart health?

"We don't care about health Hearts, were Freaks!"    On a serious note, I wish I could have some TRT


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: WalterWhite on January 02, 2018, 06:15:22 PM
There is a whole thread on this.  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=641388.0
Great video btw love Joe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGMvMP6qJ8k


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: judochoke on January 02, 2018, 09:42:21 PM
been on for three years. started at 100 mgs a week. blood got too thick, doc bumped me down to 75 mgs a week. feel like a million bucks. life changer.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 02, 2018, 10:05:56 PM
So Joe Rogan has been on this since the age of 38!? WTF?

Any thoughts on TRT? Dosages? 200 every 2 weeks seems a little low.

What about heart health?

Safer than weed by 10 fold


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: ESFitness on January 02, 2018, 10:30:45 PM
Ill be on hrt for the rest of my life, & i recommend it to all my clients.

My first get script was at age 23. Was on hrt all through prison and maintained 220-240lbs powerlifting & eating prison food, ramen, lil Debbie creampies, & 3 jars of peanut butter a week.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 03, 2018, 01:16:35 AM
Weed and TRT are both very safe if used properly.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Spike on January 03, 2018, 05:13:01 AM
Weed and TRT are both very safe if used properly.


Unless you have to conform to ‘set rules’ to sell yourself to the public like a whore because your not quite sure you’re doing everything right , don’t really improve but just ‘have your thing’.  - like an old farty trainer “fck the new shit and any change cause I know what worked in 79 “



Otherwise you’re are 100%


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Joe Valentino on January 03, 2018, 05:20:50 AM
Ill be on hrt for the rest of my life, & i recommend it to all my clients.

My first get script was at age 23. Was on hrt all through prison and maintained 220-240lbs powerlifting & eating prison food, ramen, lil Debbie creampies, & 3 jars of peanut butter a week.

Wow, you were able to get your shots in prison for how long, Man?


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: B R on January 03, 2018, 05:53:34 AM
Ill be on hrt for the rest of my life, & i recommend it to all my clients.

My first get script was at age 23. Was on hrt all through prison and maintained 220-240lbs powerlifting & eating prison food, ramen, lil Debbie creampies, & 3 jars of peanut butter a week.

 ::)


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 03, 2018, 06:18:18 AM
I wonder if trt is the reason Rogans face got so fat, that guy is a legit Pumpkin Head.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 03, 2018, 06:25:30 AM
I wonder if trt is the reason Rogans face got so fat, that guy is a legit Pumpkin Head.

Does he do HGH as well? (Swellin' Melon). ?
I don't listen to his (or any) Podcast other than Iron-Radio, where Fortress once participated for a while...


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 03, 2018, 06:42:03 AM
Does he do HGH as well? (Swellin' Melon). ?
I don't listen to his (or any) Podcast other than Iron-Radio, where Fortress once participated for a while...

Not sure, I'm on Hrt, but haven't experienced and head/face growth, Rogan face and head are huge compared to his Fear Factor days that's for sure.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: ESFitness on January 03, 2018, 08:36:39 AM
Wow, you were able to get your shots in prison for how long, Man?

Entire time. Intake in county jail they ask what prescriptions you take and they verify it. Went in for scripts for test, t4, klonopin,& clonidine


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: ESFitness on January 03, 2018, 08:37:15 AM
::)

Roll your eyes you little bitch.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: B R on January 03, 2018, 08:45:38 AM
Roll your eyes you little bitch.

 Shut up you f*cking clown.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: WalterWhite on January 03, 2018, 09:06:02 AM
Does he do HGH as well? (Swellin' Melon). ?
I don't listen to his (or any) Podcast other than Iron-Radio, where Fortress once participated for a while...


Yes low dose hgh as well.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Joe Pietaro on January 03, 2018, 09:13:20 AM
TRT is great but what happens is some folks go overboard and not stick with the protocol. 200-to-400mgs per week of Test Cypionate is fine for what it is supposed to do, but it's hard to not throw in some extra goodies like d-bol, deca, etc. That's when shit can begin to get fucked up in your blood tests and then you may have to go off for a period of time to get them back to normal. Nothing worse than being on for a number of years (which is what TRT is; no cycles) & then coming off cold turkey - especially when you're 50!


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Grape Ape on January 03, 2018, 09:28:53 AM
TRT is great but what happens is some folks go overboard and not stick with the protocol. 200-to-400mgs per week of Test Cypionate is fine for what it is supposed to do, but it's hard to not throw in some extra goodies like d-bol, deca, etc. That's when shit can begin to get fucked up in your blood tests and then you may have to go off for a period of time to get them back to normal. Nothing worse than being on for a number of years (which is what TRT is; no cycles) & then coming off cold turkey - especially when you're 50!

TRT at 400mgs?


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on January 03, 2018, 09:47:01 AM
Ill be on hrt for the rest of my life, & i recommend it to all my clients.

My first get script was at age 23. Was on hrt all through prison and maintained 220-240lbs powerlifting & eating prison food, ramen, lil Debbie creampies, & 3 jars of peanut butter a week.
High lighted the true part of the story.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: ESFitness on January 03, 2018, 09:54:27 AM
High lighted the true part of the story.

Yea, because you can't get hrt at 23 because there's an age limit.

And using anabolics & everything since age 17 (easily verifiable by anybody who's been on these boards since the 90s) wont cause a test level of <100 or hypothyroidism, and its impossible to get scripts for klonopin or god forbid blood pressure medication, right?

You fucking clowns make all these claims yet have never in all the years I've been here been able to back any of the shit up. Just embarras yourselves and return with new gimmick accounts


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Tapeworm on January 03, 2018, 10:24:09 AM
TRT at 400mgs?

"Upper end of the normal range"


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: dj181 on January 03, 2018, 10:24:30 AM
True try does not go over 125 per week


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: ESFitness on January 03, 2018, 12:03:35 PM
"Upper end of the normal range"

That's well beyond the upper end.

200mg every 2 weeks would put me at 1200-1400 a day or 2 after the shot and down in the 700s a day or 2 before my next shot


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: WalterWhite on January 03, 2018, 02:07:57 PM
TRT is great but what happens is some folks go overboard and not stick with the protocol. 200-to-400mgs per week of Test Cypionate is fine for what it is supposed to do, but it's hard to not throw in some extra goodies like d-bol, deca, etc. That's when shit can begin to get fucked up in your blood tests and then you may have to go off for a period of time to get them back to normal. Nothing worse than being on for a number of years (which is what TRT is; no cycles) & then coming off cold turkey - especially when you're 50!

Going off "cold turkey" at 50 is really not a good idea Joe because it will send you into a free fall hormonally. You can normalize your numbers by dropping to true trt which is not usually 200mg's unless it's what ES described bi weekly.

Try 100mg and give your numbers a chance to settle/normalize and see where you are. If you need to drop more you can always do that.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: ESFitness on January 03, 2018, 02:13:57 PM
Holy fuck I didn't notice that Joe posted here.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Joe Valentino on January 03, 2018, 03:20:37 PM
Entire time. Intake in county jail they ask what prescriptions you take and they verify it. Went in for scripts for test, t4, klonopin,& clonidine

Awesome, Man, you spent 2 years there? The train is like we see in the movies, on the yard, or by yourself with that "prison workout" that Kali once posted on his channel?


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: ESFitness on January 03, 2018, 03:50:43 PM
Awesome, Man, you spent 2 years there? The train is like we see in the movies, on the yard, or by yourself with that "prison workout" that Kali once posted on his channel?

Spent 5yrs in.

Never saw kalis vid.

I usually had a training partner aka let someone train with me.
 (young kids who didn't know shit. Have them rack weights n stuff) or by myself. I went in with about 10yrs training experience with 6 of it as a trainer. Training was typical bodybuilding or powerlifting. Non of the common "prison" garbage like " Champagnes" or "lawn mowers" or whatever the fuck those idiots called whatever exercises they were doing.

I fucken hated people asking how to train their "back arms" or how to get their "trapezoids" to Bunch up.

Wtf? Do you call your chest your front back or how about your front arms are your side body or whatever the fuck... "Back arms" smh... And " trapezoids"?? Fuckers usually never graduated high school much less took of geometry class... Where the fuck is a trapezoid on a anatomy chart?

We had full free weights, power racks a couple regular squat racks inmate made pulldown and seated row machines a legit leg press hack squat machine seated calf raise machine a piece of shit old school Smith machine inside that was only good for doing standing calf raises in, couple preacher benches a handful or more Olympic flat benches one Decline and 1 incline bench.. Etc... all that shit would be outside in a white Pit in the wreck yard during the summer months and would be moved inside to a weight room when the snow came. There were some brutal hot days 100°+ with 90+ humidity(was near a river)& some stupid cold days when the weights were outside.

Had powerlifting meets twice a year? Maybe 3x? Always in the inside weight room. Were some surprisingly strong guys there who'd do very well if they trained outside prison. 135-140lb kids with 400+ deadlifts (460+ actually) and guys 198-220 with 600+ deadlidts... Only a couple of us squatted 600+ though. Big benches were rarer.

Nobody else had experience with steroids except me and I was the only one in the entire system getting testosterone.  

Were some good physique as well. A few stand out. One kid who had hyperthyroidism and would take T4 to down-regulate his natural production of test of thyroid using voice text and I caught myself before it's taking testosterone and I'm too lazy to go back and change it so... Anyways this fucking kid was about 5 foot 10 and about a hundred and forty 9 or 152 lb and was fucking shredded like a mini white Chris Cormier physique except shredded year round. Didn't know a whole lot about training at first but eventually he got certified through issA while he was in. Lookin at him you'd guess him about 180. Never 140s.... other guy was a black guy coke dealer who looked like Bob Sapp's cousin no shit he also didn't know shit about training and wood bench press about 3 or 4 days a week and rarely if ever saw him do anything other than some chest and maybe some triceps sometimes or curls but still look like fucking Bob Sapp. A few others who just have good genetics that responded well to eating 3 meals a day that they probably weren't eating before they went to prison and giving their body some sort of stimulus for muscle growth that they most likely had never ever had in their life before going to prison


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: willl on January 04, 2018, 01:44:26 AM
trt should be about bringing back daily T levels to upper yet physiological levels. its the only way

weekly or other injection protocols really are messing things up regardless

400/wk is no trt


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 04, 2018, 03:05:01 AM
Spent 5yrs in.

Never saw kalis vid.

I usually had a training partner aka let someone train with me.
 (young kids who didn't know shit. Have them rack weights n stuff) or by myself. I went in with about 10yrs training experience with 6 of it as a trainer. Training was typical bodybuilding or powerlifting. Non of the common "prison" garbage like " Champagnes" or "lawn mowers" or whatever the fuck those idiots called whatever exercises they were doing.

I fucken hated people asking how to train their "back arms" or how to get their "trapezoids" to Bunch up.

Wtf? Do you call your chest your front back or how about your front arms are your side body or whatever the fuck... "Back arms" smh... And " trapezoids"?? Fuckers usually never graduated high school much less took of geometry class... Where the fuck is a trapezoid on a anatomy chart?

We had full free weights, power racks a couple regular squat racks inmate made pulldown and seated row machines a legit leg press hack squat machine seated calf raise machine a piece of shit old school Smith machine inside that was only good for doing standing calf raises in, couple preacher benches a handful or more Olympic flat benches one Decline and 1 incline bench.. Etc... all that shit would be outside in a white Pit in the wreck yard during the summer months and would be moved inside to a weight room when the snow came. There were some brutal hot days 100°+ with 90+ humidity(was near a river)& some stupid cold days when the weights were outside.

Had powerlifting meets twice a year? Maybe 3x? Always in the inside weight room. Were some surprisingly strong guys there who'd do very well if they trained outside prison. 135-140lb kids with 400+ deadlifts (460+ actually) and guys 198-220 with 600+ deadlidts... Only a couple of us squatted 600+ though. Big benches were rarer.

Nobody else had experience with steroids except me and I was the only one in the entire system getting testosterone.  

Were some good physique as well. A few stand out. One kid who had hyperthyroidism and would take T4 to down-regulate his natural production of test of thyroid using voice text and I caught myself before it's taking testosterone and I'm too lazy to go back and change it so... Anyways this fucking kid was about 5 foot 10 and about a hundred and forty 9 or 152 lb and was fucking shredded like a mini white Chris Cormier physique except shredded year round. Didn't know a whole lot about training at first but eventually he got certified through issA while he was in. Lookin at him you'd guess him about 180. Never 140s.... other guy was a black guy coke dealer who looked like Bob Sapp's cousin no shit he also didn't know shit about training and wood bench press about 3 or 4 days a week and rarely if ever saw him do anything other than some chest and maybe some triceps sometimes or curls but still look like fucking Bob Sapp. A few others who just have good genetics that responded well to eating 3 meals a day that they probably weren't eating before they went to prison and giving their body some sort of stimulus for muscle growth that they most likely had never ever had in their life before going to prison

fucking christ. I bet you read your own post 100 times.  easily one of the most most annoying, moronic braggarts on this site. your life is shit 


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Joe Valentino on January 04, 2018, 04:45:13 AM
Spent 5yrs in.

Never saw kalis vid.

I usually had a training partner aka let someone train with me.
 (young kids who didn't know shit. Have them rack weights n stuff) or by myself. I went in with about 10yrs training experience with 6 of it as a trainer. Training was typical bodybuilding or powerlifting. Non of the common "prison" garbage like " Champagnes" or "lawn mowers" or whatever the fuck those idiots called whatever exercises they were doing.

I fucken hated people asking how to train their "back arms" or how to get their "trapezoids" to Bunch up.

Wtf? Do you call your chest your front back or how about your front arms are your side body or whatever the fuck... "Back arms" smh... And " trapezoids"?? Fuckers usually never graduated high school much less took of geometry class... Where the fuck is a trapezoid on a anatomy chart?

We had full free weights, power racks a couple regular squat racks inmate made pulldown and seated row machines a legit leg press hack squat machine seated calf raise machine a piece of shit old school Smith machine inside that was only good for doing standing calf raises in, couple preacher benches a handful or more Olympic flat benches one Decline and 1 incline bench.. Etc... all that shit would be outside in a white Pit in the wreck yard during the summer months and would be moved inside to a weight room when the snow came. There were some brutal hot days 100°+ with 90+ humidity(was near a river)& some stupid cold days when the weights were outside.

Had powerlifting meets twice a year? Maybe 3x? Always in the inside weight room. Were some surprisingly strong guys there who'd do very well if they trained outside prison. 135-140lb kids with 400+ deadlifts (460+ actually) and guys 198-220 with 600+ deadlidts... Only a couple of us squatted 600+ though. Big benches were rarer.

Nobody else had experience with steroids except me and I was the only one in the entire system getting testosterone.  

Were some good physique as well. A few stand out. One kid who had hyperthyroidism and would take T4 to down-regulate his natural production of test of thyroid using voice text and I caught myself before it's taking testosterone and I'm too lazy to go back and change it so... Anyways this fucking kid was about 5 foot 10 and about a hundred and forty 9 or 152 lb and was fucking shredded like a mini white Chris Cormier physique except shredded year round. Didn't know a whole lot about training at first but eventually he got certified through issA while he was in. Lookin at him you'd guess him about 180. Never 140s.... other guy was a black guy coke dealer who looked like Bob Sapp's cousin no shit he also didn't know shit about training and wood bench press about 3 or 4 days a week and rarely if ever saw him do anything other than some chest and maybe some triceps sometimes or curls but still look like fucking Bob Sapp. A few others who just have good genetics that responded well to eating 3 meals a day that they probably weren't eating before they went to prison and giving their body some sort of stimulus for muscle growth that they most likely had never ever had in their life before going to prison

Genetics is everything on this game indeed. 5 years? wooooow. No piece of cake


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 04, 2018, 04:57:47 AM
Safer than weed by 10 fold

Yep, a healthy free test range could actually be a life extender


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: ESFitness on January 04, 2018, 10:55:24 AM
fucking christ. I bet you read your own post 100 times.  easily one of the most most annoying, moronic braggarts on this site. your life is shit 

I don't even proofread my posts.

Glad I occupy so much space in your mind, as soon as I hit "post", ill forget who the fuck you are.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Joe Pietaro on January 04, 2018, 01:04:48 PM
Going off "cold turkey" at 50 is really not a good idea Joe because it will send you into a free fall hormonally. You can normalize your numbers by dropping to true trt which is not usually 200mg's unless it's what ES described bi weekly.

Try 100mg and give your numbers a chance to settle/normalize and see where you are. If you need to drop more you can always do that.

This totally sucks what I did but I wanted to get my blood back to normal as soon as possible, even at the expense of the TRT benefits. I was going for elective surgery & that's when I made the call. Trying to reschedule so I can back on.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: B R on January 04, 2018, 01:22:59 PM
I don't even proofread my posts.


No sh*t.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: smblkolds on January 05, 2018, 07:35:29 AM
Im 50. My doc has me on 50mg of test cyp twice a week. I inject myself. Its been a couple of months now. With hard training, good diet and enough sleep, Im actually gaining strength again wich is huge because I was in a slow decline since my mid forties. Im much calmer also. Dont fly off the handle like I used to. Wife approved. Ha.


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: Master Blaster on January 06, 2018, 09:27:28 PM
Im 50. My doc has me on 50mg of test cyp twice a week. I inject myself. Its been a couple of months now. With hard training, good diet and enough sleep, Im actually gaining strength again wich is huge because I was in a slow decline since my mid forties. Im much calmer also. Dont fly off the handle like I used to. Wife approved. Ha.

how did you get a prescription?


Title: Re: Thoughts on TRT
Post by: ESFitness on January 06, 2018, 10:39:55 PM
how did you get a prescription?

Likely the same way we all get our prescriptions. I need to do is go to your doctor and tell her you think your testosterone might be low.

Period.

That's all there is to it. He'll order of blood work and he might order an X-ray or CT scan to check for any pituitary tumors or any of that shit that might be causing low testosterone. If it comes back low, you get a prescription. And even if he chooses not to write the prescription all you got to do is go to another doctor change your doctor it's that simple and already have the blood work done from the previous doctor go to another doctor and tell them why you left the previous.. tell him fly out you wanted your testosterone checked came back low but the dr. Still don't want to write it so I could come into him now. That doctor will request medical records from the previous Dr and likely write the script.

You don't even need to tell him why you think you're low.

Some people seem to think that you shouldn't tell your doctor that you've been using steroids because it'll go on your permanent record down the line something bad will happen to you like the secret steroid Commission is going to deny you health insurance because of it. Nonsense.