Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NarcissisticDeity on April 22, 2018, 09:06:07 AM

Title: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 22, 2018, 09:06:07 AM
And still went full throttle for another 8 years
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Nether Animal on April 22, 2018, 09:07:56 AM
He was never the same after the accident.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Royalty on April 22, 2018, 09:17:50 AM
So about 2 years after his epic pro debut, Flex’s internal body was damaged.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: hipolito mejia on April 22, 2018, 09:29:33 AM
So about 2 years after his epic pro debut, Flex’s internal body was damaged.

No, in 1993 the 0% BF  "appearance/ condition " ruined his kidneys , the high blood pressure , low back pains Sciatic never  all that were permanent side effects due the heavy abuse of diuretics on his debut.  

He was in his 20's so he could get away with the abuse for few years.... And lying of course.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: youandme on April 22, 2018, 09:34:16 AM
Nice find. I remember reading Flex, etc. to see contest results and stuff. That’s a long time to keep pushing it.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 22, 2018, 09:51:36 AM
I guess all the oil that his kidneys and liver had to deal with had nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: be back on April 22, 2018, 09:56:25 AM
I guess all the oil that his kidneys and liver had to deal with had nothing to do with it.

my wife was on lasix for water retention for around three years straight before I met her, its the oil that fucks you up.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 22, 2018, 10:29:23 AM
my wife was on lasix for water retention for around three years straight before I met her, its the oil that fucks you up.

Yes but the dosages would be way different? These guys aren't taking any recommended dosages 
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 22, 2018, 10:35:02 AM
Yes but the dosages would be way different? These guys aren't taking any recommended dosages 

how much lasix do you think he was doing, i would imagine it would be quite a bit to fuck him up that bad.  not being a smart ass, just curious how much lasix these guys were doing
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: TTfit on April 22, 2018, 10:42:33 AM
I feel bad for the women that gave him a kidney. Yes, you can function with one kidney but it's still 5 to 10 years off your life. She sacrificed for him thinking he would take the gift seriously.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: youandme on April 22, 2018, 10:50:06 AM
my wife was on lasix for water retention for around three years straight before I met her, its the oil that fucks you up.

Seems to be the guys that mess around with the synthol wear out faster.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 22, 2018, 10:53:29 AM
I feel bad for the women that gave him a kidney. Yes, you can function with one kidney but it's still 5 to 10 years off your life. She sacrificed for him thinking he would take the gift seriously.

not to mention flex's church footed the bill for his insurance, and he turned around  and hopped back on the shit after he got the transplant, not the most honest thing to do
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Royalty on April 22, 2018, 10:58:28 AM
I could be very wrong but I think it was Vince Taylor that said it... it was said there were some pro’s that would do site injections before going out to clubs.

He said that if you need to do site injections prior to going out into public, you got mental problems


I was thinking that it could’ve been Wheeler, Dillett, or Levrone
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 22, 2018, 11:02:38 AM
I could be very wrong but I think it was Vince Taylor that said it... it was said there were some pro’s that would do site injections before going out to clubs.

He said that if you need to do site injections prior to going out into public, you got mental problems

fucked up but  probably true
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Royalty on April 22, 2018, 11:03:42 AM
fucked up but  probably true

I just added another thought to my post
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Skylge on April 22, 2018, 11:24:10 AM
Flex was all drugs. Pathetic and embarrassing "lifestyle"....
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Taffin on April 22, 2018, 12:12:13 PM
I could be very wrong but I think it was Vince Taylor that said it... it was said there were some pro’s that would do site injections before going out to clubs.

He said that if you need to do site injections prior to going out into public, you got mental problems

I was thinking that it could’ve been Wheeler, Dillett, or Levrone

Maybe 'bigorexia' is caused by years of being called skinny...?
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Parker on April 22, 2018, 12:28:11 PM
No, in 1993 the 0% BF  "appearance/ condition " ruined his kidneys , the high blood pressure , low back pains Sciatic never  all that were permanent side effects due the heavy abuse of diuretics on his debut.  

He was in his 20's so he could get away with the abuse for few years.... And lying of course.
He said that in 93 that he was having issues at the time. And remember Joe McNeal was his guru.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Royalty on April 22, 2018, 01:12:48 PM
He said that in 93 that he was having issues at the time. And remember Joe McNeal was his guru.

These Guru’s were using pro’s as test subjects
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Conker on April 22, 2018, 02:52:02 PM
my wife was on lasix for water retention for around three years straight before I met her, its the oil that fucks you up.


there's a big difference between being prescribed lasix for excess water retention and using them to suck every last bit of water out of your body. diuretics used like that can fk up your kidneys pretty quickly.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Royalty on April 22, 2018, 02:56:33 PM

there's a big difference between being prescribed lasix for excess water retention and using them to suck every last bit of water out of your body. diuretics used like that can fk up your kidneys pretty quickly.

Especially on the European Grand Prix tour after the Olympia. England, France, Germany, Denmark, Switzerland, Hungary, Russia. It was crazy.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Parker on April 22, 2018, 03:42:58 PM
These Guru’s were using pro’s as test subjects
And later on Flex recommends Joe to Dex. IIRC says that Joe uses "extreme methods".
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Bevo on April 22, 2018, 05:25:57 PM
So about 2 years after his epic pro debut, Flex’s internal body was damaged.

So much for genetics for longivity
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Mobil on April 22, 2018, 07:05:46 PM
miss those old FLEX articles..bring me back to my teens
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Danimal77 on April 22, 2018, 07:34:12 PM
And still went full throttle for another 8 years

Man had he fallen between 1993 and 1995. He looked so smooth/soft in that pic. I don't know why he could never recapture his 1993 condition?
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Nether Animal on April 22, 2018, 08:13:46 PM
Man had he fallen between 1993 and 1995. He looked so smooth/soft in that pic. I don't know why he could never recapture his 1993 condition?

Kidney damage. Remember he had a hereditary kidney condition. Looked amazing in '92-'93 then it was downhill, although he pulled it together a few times like '96 NOC and '98 Ironman.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Al Doggity on April 22, 2018, 08:49:36 PM
miss those old FLEX articles..bring me back to my teens

Ha ha  I used to read flex and musclemag regularly when I was a teen and I remember thinking those guys must be pretty smart to write training articles and always be talking in puns and double entendres for interviews. Now whenever I see articles posted from those days, the quotes and interactions always sound like lazy fan fiction. There was another screenshot from some Dorian Yates article in a thread here a few days ago and the quote from Yates sounded so made up to me.   ::)

I think Flex magazine was the worst one. I remember one of those front of the book articles in which "Flex Wheeler " wrote an editorial  about how supportive Joe Weider had been during his accident and how he didn't have to worry about medical bills or getting back on his feet. I think he might have been under contract with weider at the time. Then a year or two later he did an interview with musclemag where he said he never heard from anybody at weider during that time and I think he said they threatened to pull his contract. (It's been two decades, forgive my poor memory)
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: BSN on April 22, 2018, 10:33:53 PM
About the first post .. Flex's 1996 interview
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Jayel on April 22, 2018, 10:53:54 PM
not to mention flex's church footed the bill for his insurance, and he turned around  and hopped back on the shit after he got the transplant, not the most honest thing to do

What a fkn joke. Flex was THE biggest egotistical asshole his entire career, but somehow claimed to be a church going Christian? Give us a break! Can’t really imagine him rocking up to Sunday mass in his spandex, otomix, hardcore rap, expensive ride and Rico McClinton by his side...
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Royalty on April 23, 2018, 12:16:28 AM
Ha ha  I used to read flex and musclemag regularly when I was a teen and I remember thinking those guys must be pretty smart to write training articles and always be talking in puns and double entendres for interviews. Now whenever I see articles posted from those days, the quotes and interactions always sound like lazy fan fiction. There was another screenshot from some Dorian Yates article in a thread here a few days ago and the quote from Yates sounded so made up to me.   ::)

I think Flex magazine was the worst one. I remember one of those front of the book articles in which "Flex Wheeler " wrote an editorial  about how supportive Joe Weider had been during his accident and how he didn't have to worry about medical bills or getting back on his feet. I think he might have been under contract with weider at the time. Then a year or two later he did an interview with musclemag where he said he never heard from anybody at weider during that time and I think he said they threatened to pull his contract. (It's been two decades, forgive my poor memory)

From top to bottom, the IFBB was filled with liars. Everyone had a lie to tell.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Bevo on April 23, 2018, 12:31:40 AM
Liars, criminals, schmoes, drug dealers, gays, paper bags, sounds like a great “sport” to indulge in
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 23, 2018, 01:05:03 AM
royalty that would not surprise me one bit,  also flex was not a very big guy pre roids very small actually he had a great structure and blew up  and levmanchild wouldn't suprise me one bit
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Danimal77 on April 23, 2018, 10:45:04 AM
Kidney damage. Remember he had a hereditary kidney condition. Looked amazing in '92-'93 then it was downhill, although he pulled it together a few times like '96 NOC and '98 Ironman.

When did he start using oil? What year/competition?
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Nether Animal on April 23, 2018, 11:07:54 AM
When did he start using oil? What year/competition?

Really hard to tell since he probably started slowly. '96 NOC his biceps are looking weird by this point. Arms are lacking cuts, look washed out.

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=37414&option=com_joomgallery)

(http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=37314&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)

(http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=37320&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Parker on April 23, 2018, 12:51:36 PM
When did he start using oil? What year/competition?
It was stated that in 96-97 he took an interest in Chris Clark, the inventor of Synthol. Chris Clark's Guinea pig was apparently Manfred Hoeberl.
ND probably has the pic of Flex with huge calves (esiclene). He is modeling NPC wear with Demayo and Lenda Murray.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: oldschoolfan on April 23, 2018, 02:44:38 PM
Kidney damage. Remember he had a hereditary kidney condition. Looked amazing in '92-'93 then it was downhill, although he pulled it together a few times like '96 NOC and '98 Ironman.

have to agree it was downhill after 93 he never got into that condition again and tried to play the size game with dorian and ronnie
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 23, 2018, 02:50:43 PM
It was stated that in 96-97 he took an interest in Chris Clark, the inventor of Synthol. Chris Clark's Guinea pig was apparently Manfred Hoeberl.
ND probably has the pic of Flex with huge calves (esiclene). He is modeling NPC wear with Demayo and Lenda Murray.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Parker on April 23, 2018, 02:54:51 PM

Yep, when your calves  rival your upper arms...
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 23, 2018, 03:05:19 PM
Yep, when your calves  rival your upper arms...

Right about the time Shawn accused him of getting implants
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Parker on April 23, 2018, 03:11:48 PM
Right about the time Shawn accused him of getting implants
Yep. And he said on here (Getbig) he said what he said to get into Flex's head. He didn't know if he did or didn't. And he did get into his head at the time.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Fortress on April 23, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
I’ve met Flex. A few times.

Guy’s a jackass.

Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Bevo on April 23, 2018, 03:26:54 PM
Chris > flex
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Parker on April 23, 2018, 03:38:02 PM
Chris > flex
Now Chris literally has the big head that Flex figuratively had.
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: Bevo on April 23, 2018, 03:49:37 PM
Now Chris literally has the big head that Flex figuratively had.

At least he’s not making any comebacks  ;D
Title: Re: As early as 1995 Flex Wheeler's kidneys were failing him
Post by: oldgolds on April 24, 2018, 05:46:41 AM
Liars, criminals, schmoes, drug dealers, gays, paper bags, sounds like a great “sport” to indulge in










And all the muscle dependent on weekly injections of drugs.....Sick, sick sport full of posers and degenerates....