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Title: Border Security
Post by: Dos Equis on January 09, 2019, 01:31:48 PM
So we helped fund a border wall for Jordan?  Interesting. 

"The Obama administration is spending close to a half a billion dollars to build a sophisticated electronic fence along Jordan's northern and eastern borders, a wall which US strategic planners hope will stem the flow of refugees and also wall off the increasingly important American base from the disintegration of Syria and Iraq."

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/pa4vqz/the-great-wall-of-jordan-how-the-us-wants-to-keep-the-islamic-state-out?fbclid=IwAR1nsAidnrd6BmJCEM3hW7qZcI_zzDx_R_IDl_bN9sTPHXeB4Mqad9n-kzU


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 09, 2019, 01:51:28 PM
Only capitalist countries deserve to get overrun with migrants.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: chaos on January 09, 2019, 03:38:21 PM
So we helped fund a border wall for Jordan?  Interesting. 

"The Obama administration is spending close to a half a billion dollars to build a sophisticated electronic fence along Jordan's northern and eastern borders, a wall which US strategic planners hope will stem the flow of refugees and also wall off the increasingly important American base from the disintegration of Syria and Iraq."

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/pa4vqz/the-great-wall-of-jordan-how-the-us-wants-to-keep-the-islamic-state-out?fbclid=IwAR1nsAidnrd6BmJCEM3hW7qZcI_zzDx_R_IDl_bN9sTPHXeB4Mqad9n-kzU
It's been typical of the hypocritical dems to encourage the US to pay for to protect the borders of other countries while our southern border is wide open.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 09, 2019, 06:58:58 PM
It's been typical of the hypocritical dems to encourage the US to pay for to protect the borders of other countries while our southern border is wide open.



Schumer is one of many dual-citizen congressmen. How does one have singular interest in the USA while holding dual-citizenship? Most don't even know it's a thing.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Moontrane on January 09, 2019, 07:13:04 PM
The Democrats have to fight against the barrier they previously endorsed because, once it’s built, they can’t talk about it anymore. 
They’d have nothing but Trump’s personality and his many but inconsequential lies to campaign against.

A Democratic President with this economy, stock market, unemployment - i.e. the things most Americans care about - would sail to reelection. 


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on January 10, 2019, 05:04:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdAyn89hFIo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12e6uKM8iZQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnOpGI0qRhA

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Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: lilhawk1 on January 10, 2019, 08:01:47 AM
There is no crisis at the border.  The only one saying so is dumbass himself.  By the way, the stupid ass prototype he is touting was cut through by a saw anyone can by at Lowe's.  The only reason he wants a wall is because it is a monument to his stupid ass. He couldn't give a fuck less about you idiots that support him.  He knows as soon as he leaves office his ass is facing an indictment and off to prison he goes.  Oh now he says he didn't mean that Mexico would pay for the wall when he kept telling you morons on the campaign trail.  He meant indirectly, hahaha.  Mr. Alpha male, art of the deal, can't make a fucking deal with a 2 year old.  guy back tracks on everything he says.  What a pussy.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 10, 2019, 08:35:13 AM
There is no crisis at the border.  The only one saying so is dumbass himself.  By the way, the stupid ass prototype he is touting was cut through by a saw anyone can by at Lowe's.  The only reason he wants a wall is because it is a monument to his stupid ass. He couldn't give a fuck less about you idiots that support him.  He knows as soon as he leaves office his ass is facing an indictment and off to prison he goes.  Oh now he says he didn't mean that Mexico would pay for the wall when he kept telling you morons on the campaign trail.  He meant indirectly, hahaha.  Mr. Alpha male, art of the deal, can't make a fucking deal with a 2 year old.  guy back tracks on everything he says.  What a pussy.
What is he going to prison for?


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: mazrim on January 10, 2019, 10:54:20 AM
There is no crisis at the border.  The only one saying so is dumbass himself.  By the way, the stupid ass prototype he is touting was cut through by a saw anyone can by at Lowe's.  The only reason he wants a wall is because it is a monument to his stupid ass. He couldn't give a fuck less about you idiots that support him.  He knows as soon as he leaves office his ass is facing an indictment and off to prison he goes.  Oh now he says he didn't mean that Mexico would pay for the wall when he kept telling you morons on the campaign trail.  He meant indirectly, hahaha.  Mr. Alpha male, art of the deal, can't make a fucking deal with a 2 year old.  guy back tracks on everything he says.  What a pussy.
As low IQ as your posts are they appear even dumber when you can barely make it through a sentence without using f*ck, etc.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on January 10, 2019, 10:58:14 AM
There is no crisis at the border.  The only one saying so is dumbass himself.  By the way, the stupid ass prototype he is touting was cut through by a saw anyone can by at Lowe's.  The only reason he wants a wall is because it is a monument to his stupid ass. He couldn't give a fuck less about you idiots that support him.  He knows as soon as he leaves office his ass is facing an indictment and off to prison he goes.  Oh now he says he didn't mean that Mexico would pay for the wall when he kept telling you morons on the campaign trail.  He meant indirectly, hahaha.  Mr. Alpha male, art of the deal, can't make a fucking deal with a 2 year old.  guy back tracks on everything he says.  What a pussy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLhY6KkhEq0


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Dos Equis on January 10, 2019, 11:26:35 AM
It's been typical of the hypocritical dems to encourage the US to pay for to protect the borders of other countries while our southern border is wide open.

Truth.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Dos Equis on January 10, 2019, 11:27:10 AM
As low IQ as your posts are they appear even dumber when you can barely make it through a sentence without using f*ck, etc.

He/she is an angry troll. 


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Dos Equis on January 10, 2019, 11:28:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLhY6KkhEq0

Media acknowledged ‘epic’ border crisis under Obama – what changed?
By Brian Flood | Fox News

Are President Trump's critics refusing to believe border facts?
Asylum claims in the U.S. have increased 17,000 percent since 2010; reaction from Katrina Pierson, senior adviser for the Trump 2020 campaign, and Jason Nichols, Democratic political analyst.

News outlets readily described a “crisis” at the border under then-President Barack Obama when he sought funding to deal with a surge of migrants, many of them women and children -- but now that President Trump is in the White House, the mainstream media seem far more reluctant to use the word.

Back in the summer of 2014, the headlines and stories referring to the C-word were plentiful as the border surge was taken seriously along the Acela corridor.

The Washington Post wrote in 2014, “White House requests $3.7 billion in emergency funds for border crisis,” while CNN published a feature, “Daniel's journey: How thousands of children are creating a crisis in America.” It described a problem of "epic proportions."

Around the same time, the Huffington Post declared that “photos of the humanitarian crisis” along the southern border were “shocking,” and ABC News reported that Obama requested “$3.7 billion to cope with the humanitarian crisis on the border and the spike in illegal crossings by unaccompanied minors from Central America.”

AS TRUMP HEADS TO BORDER, DEMS DOUBLE DOWN ON ‘MANUFACTURED CRISIS’ CLAIM

The ABC News story, “Obama's Plans for $3.7 Billion Immigration Crisis Funds,” included a photo of detainees sleeping in “holding cells” at an Arizona placement center. In June 2014, NBC News’ Andrea Mitchell said that undocumented children flooding the border were “creating a crisis” for authorities.

Many of these articles were highlighted in an email blast from the Republican National Committee, which is actively backing Trump's bid to draw attention to the surging migration flow along the border as the president seeks funding for a border wall -- with the government partially shut down amid the impasse. The RNC argued the media are challenging Trump's descriptions, and Democrats outright call it a "manufactured" crisis, at a time when the problem has only grown worse, by some measures.

“The hypocrisy, unfortunately, is no longer stunning. It's utterly predictable,” The Hill media guru Joe Concha told Fox News.

Concha said much of America’s political media “is pre-conditioned to oppose anything the president supports,” with the coverage of the immigration fight the latest example.

“For years, we heard about how horrible it was for U.S. troops to be in places like Syria or Afghanistan. Trump proposes pulling them out, and suddenly they're for keeping them there,” Concha said. “Same thing with the border.”

Forbes was brief and to the point on Thursday, publishing a headline: “There is no border crisis.”

Vox wrote, “The real crisis is that Trump has no idea what he’s doing," while Houston's ABC affiliate declared that border communities are not willing to accept Trump's "crisis" label.

The Washington Post’s political correspondent Dan Balz penned an analysis headlined, “Trump used the Oval Office to try to create a border crisis.” The New York Times tweeted, “President Trump is set to travel to Texas to address a crisis on the Mexican border that Democrats say does not exist.”

WASHINGTON POST DECLARES CRISIS AT BORDER, FLIP-FLOPS AFTER TRUMP EMPHASIZES ISSUE

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said on Tuesday that Trump is working to “manufacture a crisis, stoke fear and divert attention from the turmoil in his administration."

Speaking Wednesday on Fox News’ “America’s Newsroom,” Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez echoed Schumer’s language. "This whole border security crisis … it really, I believe, is a manufactured crisis,” he said.

"Democrats, with the aid of a duplicitous mainstream media, now call the very positions they held as recently as a couple of years ago ‘racist’ or ‘bigoted’ or ‘xenophobic,’" conservative strategist Chris Barron told Fox News. "They accuse the president of acting like a tyrant and a fascist for the exact same policies Obama carried out. They deny a crisis at the border after they themselves claimed there was one."

Trump has repeatedly pointed out that Democrats used to support border security measures, including projects that included barriers -- though Obama did not push for an expansive and comprehensive border wall as Trump is. In making his case Thursday, he tweeted a clip of Obama's immigration warnings.

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“Sen. Schumer advocated for five times the funding for border security that included wall expansion less than five years ago. Not a peep from the media. Today, Schumer does a 180 and gets a get-out-of-jail free card,” Concha said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/media-acknowledged-epic-border-crisis-under-obama-what-changed


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Moontrane on January 10, 2019, 03:27:02 PM
 :D

CNN’s Jim Acosta mocked for accidentally proving that border walls work

CNN’s Jim Acosta was mocked across social media on Thursday for posting a video that was meant to
downplay President Trump's claims of a border crisis -- but ended up supporting his argument that border
barriers improve security.


“Here are some of the steel slats that the president’s been talking about,” Acosta said while reporting
from the southern border. “But as we’re walking along here, we’re not seeing any kind of imminent danger.”


The CNN reporter added, “There are no migrants trying to rush toward this fence.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cnns-jim-acosta-mocked-for-accidently-proving-that-border-walls-work


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Dos Equis on January 10, 2019, 03:28:27 PM
:D

CNN’s Jim Acosta mocked for accidentally proving that border walls work

CNN’s Jim Acosta was mocked across social media on Thursday for posting a video that was meant to
downplay President Trump's claims of a border crisis -- but ended up supporting his argument that border
barriers improve security.


“Here are some of the steel slats that the president’s been talking about,” Acosta said while reporting
from the southern border. “But as we’re walking along here, we’re not seeing any kind of imminent danger.”


The CNN reporter added, “There are no migrants trying to rush toward this fence.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cnns-jim-acosta-mocked-for-accidently-proving-that-border-walls-work

lol  ;D  Idiot.  lol


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Moontrane on January 10, 2019, 04:14:55 PM
lol  ;D  Idiot.  lol

Acosta reminds me of Fox Butterfield's "More Inmates, Despite Drop In Crime."


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on January 11, 2019, 04:44:56 AM
:D

CNN’s Jim Acosta mocked for accidentally proving that border walls work

CNN’s Jim Acosta was mocked across social media on Thursday for posting a video that was meant to
downplay President Trump's claims of a border crisis -- but ended up supporting his argument that border
barriers improve security.


“Here are some of the steel slats that the president’s been talking about,” Acosta said while reporting
from the southern border. “But as we’re walking along here, we’re not seeing any kind of imminent danger.”


The CNN reporter added, “There are no migrants trying to rush toward this fence.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cnns-jim-acosta-mocked-for-accidently-proving-that-border-walls-work

LOL


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2019, 01:03:02 PM
Great speech by the late Democrat Barbara Jordan.  Sounds like a speech Trump would give.  She would be considered an immoral bigot by her party today for giving a speech like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qjdZUx7fUw


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: lilhawk1 on January 15, 2019, 02:46:30 PM
Fucking morons quoting Fox News.  Says it all right there.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Grape Ape on January 15, 2019, 02:57:23 PM
Fucking morons quoting Fox News.  Says it all right there.

Bringing the substance as usual, lilcawk.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2019, 03:08:55 PM
Fucking morons quoting Fox News.  Says it all right there.

One of these days you will post something measured and substantive. 


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: chaos on January 15, 2019, 05:28:54 PM
One of these days you will post something measured and substantive. 
;D


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on January 23, 2019, 01:59:18 PM
Great speech by the late Democrat Barbara Jordan.  Sounds like a speech Trump would give.  She would be considered an immoral bigot by her party today for giving a speech like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qjdZUx7fUw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aqOfDbZmj8


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Board_SHERIF on January 23, 2019, 06:15:55 PM
Fucking morons quoting Fox News.  Says it all right there.

Hi PedoFlake


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on January 24, 2019, 10:48:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y938GjYnl40


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: polychronopolous on January 29, 2019, 08:41:41 AM
MORE AND MORE DEMOCRATS COME OUT TO SUPPORT THE WALL

(https://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/GettyImages-887887886-768x528.jpg)

Democratic members have increasingly expressed support for a physical barrier on the U.S.-Mexico border over the course of immigration negotiations, making it harder for party leaders to ignore their positions.

Prior to the lengthy partial government shutdown, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer seemed to have complete control over the members of his party, even those who had expressed support for the wall during election campaigns.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — then the House minority leader — promised that she would not appropriate a single dollar to the wall, despite Trump’s promise of a shutdown if he did not receive $5.7 billion to build on the border.

But a number of rank and file Democrats have since said that they support a physical barrier in concert with other border security measures, perhaps due to pressure from the extended shutdown and a desire to prevent another one.

Freshman California Rep. Katie Hill, Washington Rep. Adam Smith, and Illinois Rep. Cheri Bustos have all conceded that fencing in certain areas is something that they are not reflexively opposed to.

Virginia Rep. Elaine Luria, along with 30 other members, urged Speaker Pelosi to make a deal with Trump in a letter last week and offered perhaps the most accurate view of Trump’s border proposal by Democrats yet.

“He’s not talking about a wall from sea to shining sea,” Luria said. “That is not what we are talking about. We are talking about physical barriers as recommended by experts.” (RELATED: Immigration Experts Explain What An Effective Border Wall Actually Looks Like)

New Hampshire Sen. Maggie Hassan told CNN on Monday, “We all pledged to work in good faith to find common ground on border security. That’s what I’m committed to doing, and I think that really starts with making sure we’re listening to the experts on the front lines on this, and that may include strategic fencing in certain places.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/29/democrats-open-border-wall-negotiations-pelosi-resists/


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on January 31, 2019, 10:01:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y938GjYnl40


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on January 31, 2019, 10:02:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY7coJedX4g


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on February 01, 2019, 04:36:33 AM
Customs officers made the largest fentanyl seizure ever recorded at any port of entry in the United States the day after President Donald Trump signed a bill putting an end to the longest government shutdown in history.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/customs-officers-largest-fentanyl-seizure-185113240.html


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on February 11, 2019, 09:26:51 AM
Border wall negotiations hit hurdle as Democrats push for cap on number of ICE detainees

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-going-built-without-congress-192838066.html

WTF?


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Dos Equis on February 11, 2019, 03:43:37 PM
Border wall negotiations hit hurdle as Democrats push for cap on number of ICE detainees

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-going-built-without-congress-192838066.html

WTF?

They are nuts.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 11, 2019, 03:54:32 PM
Libfaggets are batshit insane.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Moontrane on February 11, 2019, 03:55:49 PM
Border wall negotiations hit hurdle as Democrats push for cap on number of ICE detainees

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-going-built-without-congress-192838066.html

WTF?

You can’t issue too many speeding tickets.  Show compassion for speeding drivers.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: chaos on February 11, 2019, 05:51:29 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on government negotiations over border security (all times local):
8:30 p.m.
Negotiators in Congress say they have reached an agreement in principle to fund the government and avoid another partial government shutdown.
The emerging agreement was announced by a group of lawmakers, including Republican Sen. Richard Shelby and Democratic Rep. Nita Lowey, after a closed-door meeting on Capitol Hill.

Could we have our wall ???


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: mazrim on February 11, 2019, 06:53:55 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on government negotiations over border security (all times local):
8:30 p.m.
Negotiators in Congress say they have reached an agreement in principle to fund the government and avoid another partial government shutdown.
The emerging agreement was announced by a group of lawmakers, including Republican Sen. Richard Shelby and Democratic Rep. Nita Lowey, after a closed-door meeting on Capitol Hill.

Could we have our wall ???
First thing I have seen is only $1.375 billion. Don't sign it if that's the case.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: jude2 on February 11, 2019, 07:24:57 PM
Border wall negotiations hit hurdle as Democrats push for cap on number of ICE detainees

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-going-built-without-congress-192838066.html

WTF?
They are insane.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: myt1 on February 11, 2019, 07:56:44 PM
Border wall negotiations hit hurdle as Democrats push for cap on number of ICE detainees

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-going-built-without-congress-192838066.html

WTF?

I think this is proof enough of who the true "deplorables" are, and the Dems are pandering.....actually, desperate for their votes.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on February 14, 2019, 06:05:17 AM
Migrants overwhelm New Mexico border post with thousands of illegal crossings

https://news.yahoo.com/migrants-overwhelm-mexico-border-post-234601178.html


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on March 06, 2019, 04:48:50 AM
Illegal US border crossings swell to 76,000 in February

At 76,103, the number of people stopped at the border or detained after crossing was up sharply from the roughly 61,000 average for the previous three months, a surprising surge for what is usually a downturn in the coldest month of the year.

It was also more than double the number of February 2018 and 3.2 times the number for February 2017, the first full month after President Donald Trump took office promising to take aim at illegal immigration.

"We are currently facing a humanitarian and national security crisis along our southwest border," said CBP Commissioner Kevin McAleenan.

"The vast increases in families and children coming across our border, in larger groups and in more remote areas, presents a unique challenge to our operations and facilities, and those of our partners."

https://news.yahoo.com/illegal-us-border-crossings-swell-76-000-february-210656494.html


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on March 06, 2019, 08:00:15 AM
Border Patrol: 300 percent spike in family apprehensions creates 'humanitarian crisis'

Apprehensions of migrants along the nation's southern border are the  highest in more than a decade, creating what the top U.S. Customs and Border Protection official described Tuesday as a mushrooming crisis that threatens to overwhelm federal authorities.

https://news.yahoo.com/border-patrol-300-percent-spike-212437634.html


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Yamcha on March 07, 2019, 12:59:17 AM
Illegal US border crossings swell to 76,000 in February

At 76,103, the number of people stopped at the border or detained after crossing was up sharply from the roughly 61,000 average for the previous three months, a surprising surge for what is usually a downturn in the coldest month of the year.

It was also more than double the number of February 2018 and 3.2 times the number for February 2017, the first full month after President Donald Trump took office promising to take aim at illegal immigration.

"We are currently facing a humanitarian and national security crisis along our southwest border," said CBP Commissioner Kevin McAleenan.

"The vast increases in families and children coming across our border, in larger groups and in more remote areas, presents a unique challenge to our operations and facilities, and those of our partners."

https://news.yahoo.com/illegal-us-border-crossings-swell-76-000-february-210656494.html


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: loco on March 12, 2019, 05:08:18 AM
Twice-Deported Illegal Alien Accused of Child Sex Crimes Pleads Guilty

An illegal alien who was previously deported twice from the United States has pleaded guilty to re-entering the country after being accused of child sex crimes.

Eliezer Merino-Tetlactle, a 25-year-old illegal alien from Mexico, pleaded guilty to illegally re-entering the U.S. in the Western District of Louisiana this week.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/11/twice-deported-illegal-alien-accused-of-child-sex-crimes-pleads-guilty/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUa5BLwthY


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Dos Equis on March 28, 2019, 09:50:58 AM
U.S. Projected to Add 1.5M Illegal Aliens to Population this Year
JOHN BINDER
27 Mar 2019

The United States is projected to add about 1.5 million illegal aliens to the American population by the end of the year, should current rates of Catch and Release, border crossings, and visa overstays pan out.

. . .

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/27/u-s-projected-to-add-1-5m-illegal-aliens-to-population-this-year/


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 28, 2019, 10:17:39 AM
U.S. Projected to Add 1.5M Illegal Aliens to Population this Year
JOHN BINDER
27 Mar 2019

The United States is projected to add about 1.5 million illegal aliens to the American population by the end of the year, should current rates of Catch and Release, border crossings, and visa overstays pan out.

. . .

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/27/u-s-projected-to-add-1-5m-illegal-aliens-to-population-this-year/
It's amazing how this racist country with a dictator for a president attracts so many people from other countries.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Dos Equis on March 28, 2019, 10:18:34 AM
It's amazing how this racist country with a dictator for a president attracts so many people from other countries.

Right?  A country that was never great according to race hustler Eric Holder. 


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 28, 2019, 10:23:16 AM
Right?  A country that was never great according to race hustler Eric Holder. 
There should be millions of Americans escaping to Mexico and Central America.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Howard on March 28, 2019, 10:25:14 AM
I'm a democrat but I'm against illegal immigration.
I have no problems with a wall. But that won't stop the worst crime .

El Chapo used elaborate tunnels and warehouses on both sides of the border.
A wall won't stop that.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 28, 2019, 10:30:38 AM
I'm a democrat but I'm against illegal immigration.
I have no problems with a wall. But that won't stop the worst crime .

El Chapo used elaborate tunnels and warehouses on both sides of the border.
A wall won't stop that.
It slows it down a lot though.  You will never catch everyone but the vast majority of illegal criminals from Mexico are not Chapo and do not have those resources.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Howard on March 28, 2019, 10:40:05 AM
It slows it down a lot though.  You will never catch everyone but the vast majority of illegal criminals from Mexico are not Chapo and do not have those resources.

I think the "Build the wall" Trumpers are motivated more by a cultural concern.
It's a racist based fear of the "browning" of America.

I'm for strong borders, but I don't want the USA to become North Korea or the old DDR ( east Germany).
I have no issues with a wall, but I'd like to see a guest worker program like the one G W Bush wanted.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 28, 2019, 11:08:12 AM
I think the "Build the wall" Trumpers are motivated more by a cultural concern.
It's a racist based fear of the "browning" of America.

I'm for strong borders, but I don't want the USA to become North Korea or the old DDR ( east Germany).
I have no issues with a wall, but I'd like to see a guest worker program like the one G W Bush wanted.

I have no problem with a guest worker program either.  Immigration needs to be controlled not a free for all.  People forget there were decades in the 1900's where there was almost no immigration at all.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Primemuscle on March 28, 2019, 11:29:01 AM
It slows it down a lot though.  You will never catch everyone but the vast majority of illegal criminals from Mexico are not Chapo and do not have those resources.

Let's say the U.S. has only so many dollars to spend on illegal immigration which doesn't cover everything possible to reduce it, would you recommend spending the money on a wall, on manpower or spread it between the two, knowing neither the wall nor the manpower shortage will be adequately funded?


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 28, 2019, 12:33:23 PM
Let's say the U.S. has only so many dollars to spend on illegal immigration which doesn't cover everything possible to reduce it, would you recommend spending the money on a wall, on manpower or spread it between the two, knowing neither the wall nor the manpower shortage will be adequately funded?
Since you asked, I would make it a criminal action to a) employ an illegal immigrant with a 30 day jail term for the 1st offense, 60 day 2nd offense, 90 day for the 3rd offense, etc, etc.

b) make it illegal to allow school districts to allow illegals to go to school there with the same punishments as (a) for school administrators

c) any city, county, state or federal official defending illegals in sanctuary cities would have same punishments as (a&b)

d) all welfare benefits (food stamps, ADC, WIC, Medicaid, etc) would not be given to illegals

I would give all illegals 30 days to leave the country on their own uninterrupted.  Once that 30 days is up I would completely close the border and put military personnel on the border until the wall was completed.  After the wall was completed there would still be border patrol agents along the border every so many miles to insure no one gets through.

After all of this is done I would open the guest worker program and would allow visas given for farm, factory, construction and other businesses that need employees that Americans won't do.  Those legal workers would receive health care and freedom to send their kids to school here as well.

Regardless of what it costs initially the savings over the long haul would be worth it.  Legal workers who commit crimes would be sent back and their visas taken.  Any illegal caught at this point here would be put in a detention jail and later deported.

If these things were implemented the desire to get in this country illegally would evaporate AND the desire for business people to hire illegals would go as well.  The first time a meat packing plant owner did 30 days in jail would be the last time, I guarantee.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: chaos on March 28, 2019, 04:29:32 PM
I think the "Build the wall" Trumpers are motivated more by a cultural concern.
It's a racist based fear of the "browning" of America.


Bullshit. Why do democrats keep saying this shit? Everything is about race to democrats, why?


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Primemuscle on March 28, 2019, 06:17:55 PM
Bullshit. Why do democrats keep saying this shit? Everything is about race to democrats, why?

Maybe because Trump once said he'd welcome Norwegian immigrants. When lawmakers presented to President Trump on Thursday the idea of restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations as part of a bipartisan immigration bill, the president reportedly replied:  “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” According to The Washington Post, based on two people briefed on the president’s meeting with lawmakers, the president then suggested the U.S. should admit more immigrants from places like Norway.

DAVID A. GRAHAM - JAN 11, 2018

You can't get much whiter than Scandinavians. And generally speaking, folks from those "shithole" countries are people of color. Trump's remarks were racist, period.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: chaos on March 28, 2019, 07:44:39 PM
Maybe because Trump once said he'd welcome Norwegian immigrants. When lawmakers presented to President Trump on Thursday the idea of restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations as part of a bipartisan immigration bill, the president reportedly replied:  “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” According to The Washington Post, based on two people briefed on the president’s meeting with lawmakers, the president then suggested the U.S. should admit more immigrants from places like Norway.

DAVID A. GRAHAM - JAN 11, 2018

You can't get much whiter than Scandinavians. And generally speaking, folks from those "shithole" countries are people of color. Trump's remarks were racist, period.

Whole bunch of "reportedly" and anonymous "people briefed" in that "story" ::)


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Dos Equis on June 06, 2019, 01:04:22 PM
ISIS plotted to send westerners to US through Mexico border: report
By Hollie McKay | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-plot-westerners-mexico-border


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: jude2 on June 06, 2019, 03:56:25 PM
ISIS plotted to send westerners to US through Mexico border: report
By Hollie McKay | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-plot-westerners-mexico-border
Why not, easy move.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: illuminati on June 06, 2019, 08:40:40 PM
ISIS plotted to send westerners to US through Mexico border: report
By Hollie McKay | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-plot-westerners-mexico-border

And the Democraps would welcome them with free $’s
And invite them to a sanctuary city.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: James on June 07, 2019, 05:26:37 AM
WINNING!!! MEXICO now busing CENTRAL AMERICAN MIGRANTS back to GUATEMALA

Migrants detained in Mexico are sent BACK to Guatemala as part of tougher security on the border following pressure from Trump over tariffs Government buses were seen crossing the Mexico-Guatemala border Thursday They were carrying migrants being forced to return to their home countries

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7114457/Migrants-detained-Mexico-sent-Guatemala-officials-fight-block-Trump-tariffs.html


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Board_SHERIF on June 07, 2019, 07:28:20 AM
Maybe because Trump once said he'd welcome Norwegian immigrants. When lawmakers presented to President Trump on Thursday the idea of restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations as part of a bipartisan immigration bill, the president reportedly replied:  “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” According to The Washington Post, based on two people briefed on the president’s meeting with lawmakers, the president then suggested the U.S. should admit more immigrants from places like Norway.

DAVID A. GRAHAM - JAN 11, 2018

You can't get much whiter than Scandinavians. And generally speaking, folks from those "shithole" countries are people of color. Trump's remarks were racist, period.



Are you saying those Scandinavians are less educated and commit more crimes than the "immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations" ??


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: TheGrinch on June 07, 2019, 07:54:53 AM
Love how they use the term "Immigration" ...LOL

Its a FREAKIN INVASION.... holy moly...

How dumbfarks can't see this is beyond me


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 07, 2019, 09:24:44 AM
Love how they use the term "Immigration" ...LOL

Its a FREAKIN INVASION.... holy moly...

How dumbfarks can't see this is beyond me
It is an invasion and they know it.  The democrats want to let these people in because it means more votes for them in the future.  They want to turn the U.S. into a shithole country because it means more power for them.


Title: Re: Border Security
Post by: illuminati on June 07, 2019, 09:25:04 AM
Since you asked, I would make it a criminal action to a) employ an illegal immigrant with a 30 day jail term for the 1st offense, 60 day 2nd offense, 90 day for the 3rd offense, etc, etc.

b) make it illegal to allow school districts to allow illegals to go to school there with the same punishments as (a) for school administrators

c) any city, county, state or federal official defending illegals in sanctuary cities would have same punishments as (a&b)

d) all welfare benefits (food stamps, ADC, WIC, Medicaid, etc) would not be given to illegals

I would give all illegals 30 days to leave the country on their own uninterrupted.  Once that 30 days is up I would completely close the border and put military personnel on the border until the wall was completed.  After the wall was completed there would still be border patrol agents along the border every so many miles to insure no one gets through.

After all of this is done I would open the guest worker program and would allow visas given for farm, factory, construction and other businesses that need employees that Americans won't do.  Those legal workers would receive health care and freedom to send their kids to school here as well.

Regardless of what it costs initially the savings over the long haul would be worth it.  Legal workers who commit crimes would be sent back and their visas taken.  Any illegal caught at this point here would be put in a detention jail and later deported.

If these things were implemented the desire to get in this country illegally would evaporate AND the desire for business people to hire illegals would go as well.  The first time a meat packing plant owner did 30 days in jail would be the last time, I guarantee.

X2 Very Good Answer
IF only The UK would do that.