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nope.. we've pretty much forgotten
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After 18 years, most people refuse to accept that was an inside Job..
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My manager at the time at work (Don Dittulio and his new wife) passed away on Flight 11.
Shocking and sad. Death to filthy muzzies.
http://www.legacy.com/sept11/story.aspx?personid=91788
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It was all a scheme to get us to war with iraq and steal iraqs babylonian relics
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My manager at the time at work (Don Dittulio and his new wife) passed away on Flight 11.
Shocking and sad. Death to filthy muzzies.
http://www.legacy.com/sept11/story.aspx?personid=91788
Maybe it's because of my age at the time of 9/11, but I will hate muzzies for the rest of my life for this! The fact that the libtards embrace them in 2019 is fucking sickening to me!
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What about hate Muzzies AND the Government?
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Saudi nationals hijacked and flew those planes.
However, we didn't retaliate against the Saudis who are the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world.
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Saudi nationals hijacked and flew those planes.
However, we didn't retaliate against the Saudis who are the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world.
Which 100% proves it was an inside job
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Which 100% proves it was an inside job
Not a single 9/11 CT has been shown to have any proof or credence whatsoever. None. Not a confession, not a smoking gun, no means and methods, not a name, place, zero.
9/11 CT's died just like 240's fake bs
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After 18 years, most people refuse to accept that was an inside Job..
STFU idiot. Where is a single ounce or shred of proof it was an "insider job"? Typical liberal idiot. Give your evidence.
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The radical muslims really f*cked us with 9/11.
As a result we killed or indirectly caused the death of a couple million of them.
That's a heckuva kill ratio.
I wonder if they now feel it was worth it?
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The New York Times on Wednesday deleted a tweet marking the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks that claimed “airplanes took aim” at the World Trade Center.
(5 mos ago) Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) said “some people did something”
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Ilhan Omar must be shown the true path.
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STFU idiot. Where is a single ounce or shred of proof it was an "insider job"? Typical liberal idiot. Give your evidence.
Oh. Its not enough for you to have at least 5 Documentaries on the subject? Youre an idiot, refuses to see the truth told by a bunch of people involved at the time.
Go look on YouTube, Moron, get educated, TrumpTard. Keep thinking GWB is a saint
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Oh. Its not enough for you to have at least 5 Documentaries on the subject? Youre an idiot, refuses to see the truth told by a bunch of people involved at the time.
Go look on YouTube, Moron, get educated, TrumpTard. Keep thinking GWB is a saint
Right - give me one single piece of evidence- 1. Give a means and method and a name and place.
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Not a single 9/11 CT has been shown to have any proof or credence whatsoever. None. Not a confession, not a smoking gun, no means and methods, not a name, place, zero.
9/11 CT's died just like 240's fake bs
Anyone who believes Saudis with some box cutters did this are certified blind as there's 10,000s of thousands of pages, videos, and other assorted evidence proving otherwise.
(https://researchdigest.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/gettyimages-471774763.jpg?w=845)
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Fuck the muzzie scumbags!!
Kill `em all,sort `em out later.
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One really weird part was the hit on the Pentagon.
That was very odd.
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Anyone who believes Saudis with some box cutters did this are certified blind as there's 10,000s of thousands of pages, videos, and other assorted evidence proving otherwise.
(https://researchdigest.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/gettyimages-471774763.jpg?w=845)
So who did it - give me names, means and methods. Etc
Sorry - the burden is on you the Conspiracy Theorist - to at least put forward a plausible theory of how this was pulled off. Otherwise, you are just a kook like 240 was.
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One really weird part was the hit on the Pentagon.
That was very odd.
It was an attempt to attack the financial and military power icons of the US. They picked soft targets. Their luck would have run out quickly had they gone after an active military site. The Whitehouse hit was averted by the passengers and they ended up crashing in Pennsylvania/
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Yes let's not forget the controlled demolitions and lies from the US government.
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"Someone did something."
What a bunch of crap.
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It was an attempt to attack the financial and military power icons of the US. They picked soft targets. Their luck would have run out quickly had they gone after an active military site. The Whitehouse hit was averted by the passengers and they ended up crashing in Pennsylvania/
Did you watch the video of the Pentagon hit? It was odd as heck. Looked like a cruise missile.
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Did not even realise the date (never actually know what date it is without checking) there was fuck all mention of it on the news on radio all day, feels like yesterday. Was 18 working labouring for my father in fenham an area populated mostly by Muslims on an extension for a Muslim when it kept breaking the news on the radio, the streets were very quiet for a few days but to be fair several Muslims approached us and apologised. Never forget seeing the poor people jumping to there death on the telly. Very sad still now
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I was out mowing the lawn and my wife came out and told me.
Went in and watched the second plane hit on TV.
Watching people jumping out windows. Crazy.
The (Todd) Beamer family kids (Let's roll!) were in our town's youth soccer league. Seeing the wife bring the kids to games alone after was sad.
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Who the fuck still cares? Time to move on. Not healthy to hold on to shitty memories
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Who the fuck still cares? Time to move on. Not healthy to hold on to shitty memories
People have moved on but closure is a myth.
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Who the fuck still cares?
Me and about a zillion other Americans.
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Happy september 11'th boyyzzz
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jkjk (too soon?)
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Me and about a zillion other Americans.
Wes is a true patriot and a walking tribute to 9/11. He modeled his teeth on the Twin Towers and went down on thousands of unsuspecting men.
Tex.
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Fallsview ???
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I was a SR in high school in chicago. i was 17... i was listening to Mancow and i thought it was fake. we left school early that day.
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Physics Magazine Concludes: All 3 WTC Towers Collapsed Due to Controlled Demolition
Source: https://thefreethoughtproject.com/physics-report-911-controlled-demolition/
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No but srsly RIP all 2977 Americans in this
liberals made this happen don't forget that.
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No but srsly RIP all 2977 Americans in this
liberals made this happen don't forget that.
Summer of 2001: Bin Laden determined to attack US.
Conservative Bush Admin: Let's put Condi Rice (A Soviet Expert) in charge of National Security and collectively ignore all the data.
Yes, Liberals did that.
Oh, no they didn't, but they (Liberals) did kill Bin Laden.
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Summer of 2001: Bin Laden determined to attack US.
Conservative Bush Admin: Let's put Condi Rice (A Soviet Expert) in charge of National Security and collectively ignore all the data.
Yes, Liberals did that.
Oh, no they didn't, but they (Liberals) did kill Bin Laden.
u stupid little cuck weasel
if a guy like trump was in charge from at that time there wouldn't be many muslims allowed entrance, tighter border controlls etc. Bush was a globalist jewish controlled c*nt
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I was traveling on business.. Was in Lubbock Tx .. Had just woken up and heard people running and screaming.. The 1st plane had just hit the 1st tower.. Had to stay an extra night at the Hampton inn..Was able to fly home the next day .. Security was heavy at the airport.. People walking on egg shells.. Staring at each other.. Still remember a Muslim couple getting harassed by other commuters..
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u stupid little cuck weasel
if a guy like trump was in charge from at that time there wouldn't be many muslims allowed entrance, tighter border controlls etc. Bush was a globalist jewish controlled c*nt
Hello. Pussy.
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Good for you guys.
I will never forget my 5000 countrymen you killed two years before that.
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I was 18 and had decided to start college a semester late. I went on morning runs everyday but that morning I decided to stay in bed and listen to Stern. At first it just sounded like an accident but I turned on the tv and before the second plane hit I watched the rest unfold with the rest of the nation.
Creepiest thing about the day to me (aside from the jumpers and eveything else of course) was seeing messages like this on assorted channels:
(https://lostmediawiki.com/images/9/96/911FoodNetworkSuspension.png)
I had gone through major Hurricanes but still never did the world seem to just stop like that to my 18 year old brain.
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https://i.ylilauta.org/6d/2a731288.mp4
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I was living in Carteret, NJ when it happened. I saw the towers everyday on my commute into Newark. The morning it happened, I was home with my wife and two kids. I was feeding my daughter in the kitchen while my wife was watching TV in the other room feeding my son breakfast. She told me that a plane had hit a tower, so I put Howard Stern on the radio and listened to his commentary while I continued feeding my daughter. When one of the towers fell, I jumped in my car, and drove over to an area of my town where I could see the towers. I saw the last tower with smoke pouring out of it. I tried to film it with my video camera, but it wasn't charged. So I tried to drive down to a place where I could get a better view, but the other tower fell while I was driving. It was very surreal. My dad, stepmom, brother and sister lived in Soho, and I couldn't get a hold of them because the phone network was overwhelmed. We just stayed in the house most of the day watching and listening. Finally, we decided to take the kids outside for a walk. The smoke from the towers was drifting right over the top of us. Over the next month, they began taking pieces of the towers over to the Fresh Kills Landfill on Staten Island. I could see all of the steel beams from my front yard. Just bananas.
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Right - give me one single piece of evidence- 1. Give a means and method and a name and place.
. Give a means and method and a name and place"
What else do you want, the Powerball ticket? Some documentaries interview people highly ranked on the government and security.
Take your time to watch it, at least one. You dont have to watch them all.
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No but srsly RIP all 2977 Americans in this
liberals made this happen don't forget that.
Dumb fuck. George W Bush is a Republican like his late father.
Why dont you call Bush's house and say that he is a Liberal?
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Still remember that day 18 years ago.
And how quickly people forget about that occurred, how the world changed, how before we took planes for granted.
And how scary and terrifying it was.
My wife was working on the 28-30th floor of the tallest building in the San Fernando Valley (Disney Building), and how when they did not know if there were more planes in the air, the evacuation order came to get out.
Friends in New York who were forever changed.
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I went on morning runs everyday but that morning I decided to stay in bed and listen to Stern.
Dude, me too.
I was in my car listening to Howard.
Tom, the show/radio station manager came in and said that a plane had crashed into one of the towers.
At first, everyone thought that it was just a plane crash... an accident.
I rushed home just in time to see second plane hit Tower 2.
There was like only 15 to 16 minutes between the two strikes.
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I was working at home that morning and didn't know about what was going on. Walked into the bank down the street and the tellers were all crying and it was on TV. Right after 2nd tower went down.
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Sophomore year in college and someone came into the house and said to turn on the tv because a plane had hit the first twin tower. We watched the second one hit. Then the ticker at the bottom of the screen talked about the pentegon plane and after a while we watched the towers fall. They had some candle light thing on campus that night and people were shouting and saying “it’s okay to be angry”. Real queer shit. I could only think about the dead people and watching people fall from the burning buildings to the ground. It was a crazy few days after that for sure.
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I was traveling on business.. Was in Lubbock Tx .. Had just woken up and heard people running and screaming.. The 1st plane had just hit the 1st tower.. Had to stay an extra night at the Hampton inn..Was able to fly home the next day .. Security was heavy at the airport.. People walking on egg shells.. Staring at each other.. Still remember a Muslim couple getting harassed by other commuters..
Planes were grounded until 9/13. How were you able to fly on 9/12? ???
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Saudi nationals hijacked and flew those planes.
However, we didn't retaliate against the Saudis who are the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world.
The Saudis are the biggest freaks this world has ever seen. The sooner Saudi Arabia burns to ash the better.
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Oh. Its not enough for you to have at least 5 Documentaries on the subject? Youre an idiot, refuses to see the truth told by a bunch of people involved at the time.
Go look on YouTube, Moron, get educated, TrumpTard. Keep thinking GWB is a saint
LOL! Oh no, not another pea brained conspiracy whack job.
Good luck moving out of Mom's basement turbo.
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After 18 years, most people refuse to accept that was an inside Job..
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Everybody knows America done sept 11 and then tried to blame it on bin ladin
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STFU idiot. Where is a single ounce or shred of proof it was an "insider job"? Typical liberal idiot. Give your evidence.
THIS !.
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It was all a scheme to get us to war with iraq and steal iraqs babylonian relics
Wow, johny falcon was fighting in iraq ..............tell US more .............
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Wes is a true patriot and a walking tribute to 9/11. He modeled his teeth on the Twin Towers and went down on thousands of unsuspecting men.
Tex.
Tell us about Belgian involvement ..............
How is Anabol Jr. ?. :D
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Everybody knows America done sept 11 and then tried to blame it on bin ladin
regarding to you, islam is religion of peace ::)
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Hoping retards don't actually believe it was an inside job and are just trolling.
A person cant really be that retarded, can they?
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Can somebody explain how a bunch of goatfuckers who trained on lighter planes managed to hit the pentagon near ground level with a commercial airplane? I believe Pentagon is like 77 feet high?
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I was 13 years old when it happened. I was in school and didn't even know what had occurred until I had gotten home. All the main TV channels were broadcasting it live and the whole thing felt surreal, like you were watching a film.
Regardless of all the debates and questionable actions that followed, RIP to those killed.
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Hoping retards don't actually believe it was an inside job and are just trolling.
A person cant really be that retarded, can they?
Well, they can. It is a fact that 15% of young americans doesn't have high enough IQ to serve in military. Something about 25% has mental disorders some point of their life, so yes: They could be just that retarted. There is couple of scientific study's about these tin foil hat morons, and their own little circle is only way they get any information about world outside. It is more like a religion for these idiots, there is no such facts which could make them change their opinion ;D
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Well, they can. It is a fact that 15% of young americans doesn't have high enough IQ to serve in military. Something about 25% has mental disorders some point of their life, so yes: They could be just that retarted. There is couple of scientific study's about these tin foil hat morons, and their own little circle is only way they get any information about world outside. It is more like a religion for these idiots, there is no such facts which could make them change their opinion ;D
We know there is 1 huge moron living in Finland right?
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I was living on the west coast of Ireland at the time and I remember that day like it was yesterday. Like most, I missed the first plane but was watching live footage when the second plane hit. Unbelievable feelings and emotions that day coupled with total confusion as to who was behind it and what was to come.
Momentous day in all our lives, RIP to all that died.
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Hoping retards don't actually believe it was an inside job and are just trolling.
A person cant really be that retarded, can they?
Ever read a Primemuscle or Howard post?
They are EASILY retarded enough to believe anything
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Even trump admits there was bombs in the wtc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt-ldMj9y9w
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Hoping retards don't actually believe it was an inside job and are just trolling.
A person cant really be that retarded, can they?
Take an hour of your day for like a week, watching a few of the documentaries...
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Take an hour of your day for like a week, watching a few of the documentaries...
How about post the one you feel proves your point .
CT people are basement dwellers who 18 years later still are as idiotic and incompetent as they ever were
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Planes were grounded until 9/13. How were you able to fly on 9/12? ???
Yep..
Flew back to El Paso the next day..
Heavy military presence..
Very limited flights that afternoon.. But I made home.. I would of loved to drive back but the rental car company / a franchise.. Didn't want their car left in El Paso.. So I had to fly..
It's been a long time.. But if I recall it was costing 100's of millions of dollars because the planes were grounded. So the next day there were flights available.. I remember i was on stand by.. But made home that evening..
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Yep..
Flew back to El Paso the next day..
Heavy military presence..
Very limited flights that afternoon.. But I made home.. I would of loved to drive back but the rental car company / a franchise.. Didn't want their car left in El Paso.. So I had to fly..
It's been a long time.. But if I recall it was costing 100's of millions of dollars because the planes were grounded. So the next day there were flights available.. I remember i was on stand by.. But made home that evening..
Good on you. The flight disruptions were awful.
I found this:
2:20 p.m.: Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta says that airline flights diverted after Tuesday's
attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon are authorized to finish their journeys Wednesday
but all other planes remain grounded. Only passengers on the original flights could reboard and only
after new security measures were put in place. Airlines also can move empty airplanes, Mineta said.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/wednesday.chronology/index.html
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We know there is 1 huge moron living in Finland right?
I don't believe fairytales like you = I am a moron. If you say so. But why don't prove I am, by giving some evidence about things which you say are proving your conspiracy theories to be real? Because you can't, because you don't have any evidence at all, just strong childlike faith to nonsense ;D
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Did you watch the video of the Pentagon hit? It was odd as heck. Looked like a cruise missile.
There was no plane in Pentagon. Like there was no plane on the field in Pennsylvania.
Anybody could see that.
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There was no plane in Pentagon. Like there was no plane on the field in Pennsylvania.
Anybody could see that.
love how there's no cameras with video feeds of anything at the FREAKIN' pentagon ...lol
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Pentagon wreckage shipped to chaena
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/local_links.php?catid=18
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There was no plane in Pentagon. Like there was no plane on the field in Pennsylvania.
Anybody could see that.
Idiot. There are pics of airline debris all over.
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Idiot. There are pics of airline debris all over.
To play bro psychologist for a moment, I believe conspiracy theorists get validation from chasing their conspiracies. They believe they’re doing something important.
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To play bro psychologist for a moment, I believe conspiracy theorists get validation from chasing their conspiracies. They believe they’re doing something important.
exactly
A quote from Jordan Peterson "dont try and change the world until you can tidy your room"
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exactly
A quote from Jordan Peterson "dont try and change the world until you can tidy your room"
So the airline is in on it too? The families of the deceased are in on it ? These conspiracy people are nuts
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So the airline is in on it too? The families of the deceased are in on it ? These conspiracy people are nuts
chemtrails is my favourite
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chemtrails is my favourite
The 9/11 CT people are freaking nuts - there are pics of plane debris all over the pentagon lawn.
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The 9/11 CT people are freaking nuts - there are pics of plane debris all over the pentagon lawn.
It was small debris that could have been planted. The lawn was pristine right after impact. Then later they started releasing photos with small debris in the foreground. And a little later a photo with an engine. But it is quite possible that it could all have been planted afterwards.
And to answer the question are everyone in on it? No everyone is not. It is called compartmentalization.
com·part·men·tal·i·za·tion
/kəmˌpärtˌmen(t)ələˈzāSH(ə)n/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: compartmentalization; noun: compartmentalisation
the division of something into sections or categories.
"fear of leaks led top officials to order the extreme compartmentalization of information"
Where's the airplane debris in this photo? They are still putting out fires so would not have moved it yet. They also need to leave it for forensics.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Pentagon.Nach_Einsturz.Rasen.jpg)
(https://www.twf.org/News/Y2005/0307-FBI.jpg)
This is the kind of debris a plane crash leaves...
(https://news.files.bbci.co.uk/include/shorthand/42468/media/nosewebcol-mr.jpg)
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(https://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/full/public/2015/09/10/poster-911-truth.jpg)
(https://cdn2.collective-evolution.com/assets/uploads/2018/03/Stubblebine.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ry-UO9RwUPw/Uzo2yX-5T3I/AAAAAAAACiE/0RKUC6R6awY/s1600/382412_196490687145956_1924348769_n.jpg)
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How about post the one you feel proves your point .
CT people are basement dwellers who 18 years later still are as idiotic and incompetent as they ever were
Do you think Former high level, highest echelon government officials will be on Camera just to lie and mock themselves?
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I don't believe fairytales like you = I am a moron. If you say so. But why don't prove I am, by giving some evidence about things which you say are proving your conspiracy theories to be real? Because you can't, because you don't have any evidence at all, just strong childlike faith to nonsense ;D
Ropooooooo
Post a video showing an airplane flying into the Pentagon. You believe this official version so you have evidence?
Your job is to provide evidence since you are convinced. I say there is lack of evidence. The government needs to provide more evidence. Then I will decide if I believe it or not.
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Ropooooooo
Post a video showing an airplane flying into the Pentagon. You believe this official version so you have evidence?
Your job is to provide evidence since you are convinced. I say there is lack of evidence. The government needs to provide more evidence. Then I will decide if I believe it or not.
You realize there are 87 eye-witnesses, that saw the plane crash into the Pentagon.
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/F77pentagon.html
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You realize there are 87 eye-witnesses, that saw the plane crash into the Pentagon.
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/F77pentagon.html
They are so incredibly stupid that it is not even funny any more, I bet they think that Charles Frank “Chic” Burlingame, III (the pilot) never existed
(https://images.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2006/29/6014995_113867393454.jpg)
(https://images.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2007/109/6014995_117710651792.jpg)
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Do you think Former high level, highest echelon government officials will be on Camera just to lie and mock themselves?
Please explain how the airline companies all conspired on this. This should be good
You are a freaking moron. There are pictures of airline debris strewn all over the damn lawn.
Good god are you dumb.
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They are so incredibly stupid that it is not even funny any more, I bet they think that Charles Frank “Chic” Burlingame, III (the pilot) never existed
(https://images.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2006/29/6014995_113867393454.jpg)
(https://images.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2007/109/6014995_117710651792.jpg)
Or Barbara Olsen - I guess her husband is in on the conspiracy too
The 9/11 CTers are worse than the flat earth fools.
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Or Barbara Olsen - I guess her husband is in on the conspiracy too
The 9/11 CTers are worse than the flat earth fools.
Exactly
Here is Michele M. Heidenberger's fake husband lying about his fake wife
https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/bs-md-15th-anniversary-911-20160911-story.html
(https://pentagonmemorial.org/sites/default/files/styles/medium/public/uploads/bio/images/heidenberger-m.jpg?itok=yke7aS8C)
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So now some Air Force pilot fired the missle into the pentagon ? Is this the new CT? What type of missle ? A missle from a jet would not cause that type of damage.
The ridiculousness of the 9/11 CTs makes flat earth people look sane
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Please explain how the airline companies all conspired on this. This should be good
You are a freaking moron. There are pictures of airline debris strewn all over the damn lawn.
Good god are you dumb.
Its sad that you are blind and refuses to see the whole picture- truth and keep on bashing on people that spent 10- 12 years doing research before they put out one movie, but I am not surprised with your stupidity.
Im pretty sure you fit on the category here that believes having 30 guns inside their house will end violence and or mass shooting.
You know what, wise ass, it wont...
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Its sad that you are blind and refuses to see the whole picture- truth and keep on bashing on people that spent 10- 12 years doing research before they put out one movie, but I am not surprised with your stupidity.
Im pretty sure you fit on the category here that believes having 30 guns inside their house will end violence and or mass shooting.
You know what, wise ass, it wont...
Nice deflection. Wasting 10 years trying to prove something there is zero evidence of only shows how dumb one is.
Again - so what happened to Barbara Olsen and is her husband in on the CT ? Where did the plane go?
Or the one in PA ? They are in on the CT too where they called and said they were going to take back the plane ? Todd Beamer? Remember him?
You are a fng dingbat and brain dead
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Nice deflection. Wasting 10 years trying to prove something there is zero evidence of only shows how dumb one is.
Again - so what happened to Barbara Olsen and is her husband in on the CT ? Where did the plane go?
Or the one in PA ? They are in on the CT too where they called and said they were going to take back the plane ? Todd Beamer? Remember him?
You are a fng dingbat and brain dead
At this point in time, 18 years later and after 3 thousand people killed, the Government dosent give a shit anymore. Some of the families are still fighting on court for their losses. Theres Law Firms in NYC right now dedicated ONLY to working on their interests, but in your mind a dozen dumb foreigner guys that wasn't even able to learn English were the responsible for that. Youre very, very naive
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At this point in time, 18 years later and after 3 thousand people killed, the Government dosent give a shit anymore. Some of the families are still fighting on court for their losses. Theres Law Firms in NYC right now dedicated ONLY to working on their interests, but in your mind a dozen dumb foreigner guys that wasn't even able to learn English were the responsible for that. Youre very, very naive
You are plainly brain dead . You sick mental patients can’t even settle on a plausible CT of how it worked or could work
18 years later and still nothing. Not even a theory of how it was pulled off
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Why the Federal Government wont pay the families?
Its a matter of Billions and billions of Dollars. 18 years later, the families need closure, dumbo
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Why the Federal Government wont pay the families?
Its a matter of Billions and billions of Dollars. 18 years later, the families need closure, dumbo
Why should the govt pay the families?
You are a rambling fool.
Settle on a theory and present it and let’s discuss
9/11 CT kooks can’t even do that.
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Cause People died on US Soil, at work, dumbo!
Whos going to care of the Families? Al Qaeda!? Damn, youre beyond fool
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Cause People died on US Soil, at work, dumbo!
Whos going to care of the Families? Al Qaeda!? Damn, youre beyond fool
Who exactly did not get compensation? ???
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You realize there are 87 eye-witnesses, that saw the plane crash into the Pentagon.
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/F77pentagon.html
I just looked at that list lol!
Number 1 on the list is a "flight attendant" who supposedly did not see the accident but went to the crash site. Why would they let her in to see the crash site and see charred bones etc. She's a civilian, not a investigator, could contaminate the crime scene etc. It is laughable what is written about her - and who is she? It would be easy to fabricate this.
Witness Statement by AA Flight Attendant
An American Airlines flight attendant, would have been scheduled to fly on her regular flight, AA 77, on September 11, 2001. That day she was excused from work because her father was ill. Her friend and fellow flight attendant, Renee, was on that plane.
Renee boarded AA 77 in Washington DC on this regularly scheduled route to Los Angeles. Over Ohio, Renee called her mother on her cell phone and told her to call American Airlines Operations and report that the plane had been hijacked. Renee said there were six hijackers. Press releases since then have only reported five hijackers. But that is a separate subject due to its size and scope. There were no sounds of struggle when Renee phoned her mother. Her mother could also hear crew members calling out phone numbers for American Airlines. Renee did not call her again.
The flight attendant states that she went to the crash site on Friday September 21st during the 10pm to 10am shift with her mother to give support to the crews working on the clean-up of the wreckage. She went inside the Pentagon crash site and saw parts of the plane that she recognized to be a American Airlines Boeing 757 that she was familiar with from her years of flying. She recognized part of a tail section bearing the A/A logo. She saw charred human bones. She has no doubts that Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon on September 11th.
I first heard this person describe her memories of the Pentagon crash, in Dallas at the COPA Conference on the anniversary of the JFK assassination, on November 23, 2002. She was still shaken by the loss of her friend and the devastation she had seen on September 11, 2001. Her words can be heard on the website, http://www.parapolitics.info/copa/copa2002gallery/.
See Also: "The Pentagon Attack and American Airlines Flight 77," by John Judge, 2/21/04
Here Twaddle I have another witness for you:
John James
Worked across the street, looked out the window and saw an AA commercial jetliner fly into the Pentagon.
Oh I just made it up prove me wrong.
Do you realize how easy it would be to produce a few "witnesses"?
Then you have the cab driver. He let it slip that it was all planned. So everyone has not stayed quiet about it. Now you'll say he's a moron. Ok whatever, moron.
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You are plainly brain dead . You sick mental patients can’t even settle on a plausible CT of how it worked or could work
18 years later and still nothing. Not even a theory of how it was pulled off
How would you pull it off? Just look at all the secrets governments all over the world have today. How do they keep it all a secret? There's gotta be thousands of people with classified knowledge. My guess is they keep it a secret because if not they would lose their jobs, could get arrested, killed, or maybe they believe in some cause and feel compelled to keep quiet. (The taxi driver could not keep quiet). Go watch a few Hollywood movies that involves conspiracy to get an idea of how these type of things are achieved. For example "Clear and Present Danger" with Harrison Ford.
Every now and then someone "commits suicide" also. You yourself probably believe in the Clinton Suicide claims. How do you distance yourself from your average CT'er with those views? If Clinton can suicide people to silence them and has not been arrested yet how do you explain it? Is everyone in on it? Or are there just too many corrupt individuals in government who look the other way? When Rome fell most people in government were corrupt. Honest people in government at that point were the exception, not the rule.
There are theories. You just don't want to look. Have you heard about the decoy airplane that was flown over the Pentagon / White House? The theory is an airplane did fly over the Pentagon, and at the same time a missile or smaller craft crashed into the Pentagon. So people in the surrounding area were tricked to believe it was the plane. There are interviews with people at the gas stations and the path they observed of the overhead airplane does not match the path of the official story.
Warning: You need to have an attention span to wade through it all. If you don't it might appear too complex to you and you'll just give up. Like you gave up when you tried to open the water bottle in the stadium ;D
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They are so incredibly stupid that it is not even funny any more, I bet they think that Charles Frank “Chic” Burlingame, III (the pilot) never existed
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If it was a conspiracy maybe he was murdered. He would not have been needed as a pilot anyway if they had a decoy plane that someone else could fly and used a missile instead. How do you know he was not killed by a gun, knife, strangled poisoned etc.?? Because they said so? HAHAHA!
Was his daughter killed to silence her? Who knows anything is possible.
Daughter of 9/11 Flight Pilot Is Found Dead After a Fire
https://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/06/nyregion/06fire.html
Five years after her father’s plane crashed into the Pentagon in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, a woman was found dead yesterday in a fire at the Galaxy Towers apartment complex in Guttenberg, N.J.
The woman, Wendy Burlingame, 32, was discovered by firefighters in a short hallway between the kitchen and the bedroom of her 10th-floor apartment where the four-alarm fire began, said Edward DeFazio, the Hudson County prosecutor. Mr. DeFazio said the fire, which law enforcement officials are calling suspicious, began shortly after midnight in the apartment Ms. Burlingame shared with her companion and was still under investigation, as was the cause of Ms. Burlingame’s death. No one else was injured in the fire, Mr. DeFazio said.
Ms. Burlingame was the daughter of Charles F. Burlingame III, a 25-year Navy veteran who was the captain of American Airlines Flight 77, which slammed into the Pentagon on Sept. 11., 2001, killing 189 people.
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I just looked at that list lol!
Number 1 on the list is a "flight attendant" who supposedly did not see the accident but went to the crash site. Why would they let her in to see the crash site and see charred bones etc. She's a civilian, not a investigator, could contaminate the crime scene etc. It is laughable what is written about her - and who is she? It would be easy to fabricate this.
Witness Statement by AA Flight Attendant
An American Airlines flight attendant, would have been scheduled to fly on her regular flight, AA 77, on September 11, 2001. That day she was excused from work because her father was ill. Her friend and fellow flight attendant, Renee, was on that plane.
Renee boarded AA 77 in Washington DC on this regularly scheduled route to Los Angeles. Over Ohio, Renee called her mother on her cell phone and told her to call American Airlines Operations and report that the plane had been hijacked. Renee said there were six hijackers. Press releases since then have only reported five hijackers. But that is a separate subject due to its size and scope. There were no sounds of struggle when Renee phoned her mother. Her mother could also hear crew members calling out phone numbers for American Airlines. Renee did not call her again.
The flight attendant states that she went to the crash site on Friday September 21st during the 10pm to 10am shift with her mother to give support to the crews working on the clean-up of the wreckage. She went inside the Pentagon crash site and saw parts of the plane that she recognized to be a American Airlines Boeing 757 that she was familiar with from her years of flying. She recognized part of a tail section bearing the A/A logo. She saw charred human bones. She has no doubts that Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon on September 11th.
I first heard this person describe her memories of the Pentagon crash, in Dallas at the COPA Conference on the anniversary of the JFK assassination, on November 23, 2002. She was still shaken by the loss of her friend and the devastation she had seen on September 11, 2001. Her words can be heard on the website, http://www.parapolitics.info/copa/copa2002gallery/.
See Also: "The Pentagon Attack and American Airlines Flight 77," by John Judge, 2/21/04
Here Twaddle I have another witness for you:
John James
Worked across the street, looked out the window and saw an AA commercial jetliner fly into the Pentagon.
Oh I just made it up prove me wrong.
Do you realize how easy it would be to produce a few "witnesses"?
Then you have the cab driver. He let it slip that it was all planned. So everyone has not stayed quiet about it. Now you'll say he's a moron. Ok whatever, moron.
So you are still thinking that it is possible mix up 5 meter long cruise missile flying mach 2, and 51 meters long 757, flying 8-900 kilometres per hour? In fact, those cruise missiles are so small and fast, that they are really hard to see. There is these + 80 eye witnesses, who were there, while you were in the kindergarten eating stuff from your nose, but you still know better than these witnesses? You still have only one argument, which is "I don't believe this..". No evidence, not even shred of prove, just denialism, and you think that is smart? That's what morons do, nothing more than that ;D
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Idiot. There are pics of airline debris all over.
Yes. Debris, like from a dump truck. Not pieces of a plane.
Nor not like in every other plane crash site ever before or since.
Oh, I almost forgot about the third building. Wtc9 was it.
No high rise building has ever crumbled because of a fire alone.
This one did. Caught fire from burning office material floating in air.
Keep on rockin' in the free world...
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So you are still thinking that it is possible mix up 5 meter long cruise missile flying mach 2, and 51 meters long 757, flying 8-900 kilometres per hour? In fact, those cruise missiles are so small and fast, that they are really hard to see. There is these + 80 eye witnesses, who were there, while you were in the kindergarten eating stuff from your nose, but you still know better than these witnesses? You still have only one argument, which is "I don't believe this..". No evidence, not even shred of prove, just denialism, and you think that is smart? That's what morons do, nothing more than that ;D
It is entirely possible that the legit witnesses saw a decoy plane fly over the Pentagon low and at the same time heard an explosion from a missile. Not that many people were at the spot where they actually physically saw the impact.
Witness 1 for example did not see the impact. She came there afterwards as I explained. So no she did not see a plane crash into the Pentagon. And she is listed as one of the 87 witnesses.
It is bullshit RopoOOOOO. I can see with my own two eyes and the video they released does not show an airplane. You need to get your brains and eyes checked. Not only are you a moron but you are going blind? I fear for your health!
It should have looked like this:
(http://www.lookingglassnews.org/articles/may06/look.jpeg)
Instead it looked like this:
(https://clintjcl.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/911-pentagon-official-video.gif)
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Yes. Debris, like from a dump truck. Not pieces of a plane.
Nor not like in every other plane crash site ever before or since.
Oh, I almost forgot about the third building. Wtc9 was it.
No high rise building has ever crumbled because of a fire alone.
This one did. Caught fire from burning office material floating in air.
Keep on rockin' in the free world...
The biggest problem is the Pentagon. Worse than WTC7.
- They released a video. It does not show an airplane crashing into the Pentagon.
- The lawn was not damaged.
- In some photos there is no airplane debris on the lawn. Then later there are small pieces that can be carried by a person.
- There are photos of men in office clothing running around with debris in their hands on the Pentagon lawn lol! Why would they do that?
- The taxi drivers who's cab had a light pole on the windshield said in a video interview that it was planned.
- Witnesses at the gas stations placed the airplane on a different path than the official impact path. That means it was a decoy plane.
- The impact angle is impossible. They airplane could not fly that low and crash into the Pentagon at that horizontal angle. It would have crashed into the ground and other objects long before it reached the Pentagon.
End of story an airplane never hit the Pentagon. So they are lying about that. What else are they lying about? The victims of 911 and their families deserve justice. The real criminals need to pay. A lot of criminals the past hundred years have not been held accountable. The people that started WW1 and WW2 have not been held accountable. These cockroaches need to pay. Their bloodlines should be wiped out. They fucked up and now their offspring should pay reparations in blood.
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Do you have any clue whatsoever the number of people involved in a CT like you are suggesting? And not a single name ? Not a single person slipped up. Not a single person confessed ? Not a single person changed their mind? Are you suggesting a military jet or ship fired the missle? Ok. Which one? That’s easy to name sincenif it was a rogue pilot or captain - you are suggestion is that no one realized this like a co pilot or other person on the ship?
The 911s CT’s are all nonsense. Not a single one holds up to two minutes of scrutiny
The biggest problem is the Pentagon. Worse than WTC7.
- They released a video. It does not show an airplane crashing into the Pentagon.
- The lawn was not damaged.
- In some photos there is no airplane debris on the lawn. Then later there are small pieces that can be carried by a person.
- There are photos of men in office clothing running around with debris in their hands on the Pentagon lawn lol! Why would they do that?
- The taxi drivers who's cab had a light pole on the windshield said in a video interview that it was planned.
- Witnesses at the gas stations placed the airplane on a different path than the official impact path. That means it was a decoy plane.
- The impact angle is impossible. They airplane could not fly that low and crash into the Pentagon at that horizontal angle. It would have crashed into the ground and other objects long before it reached the Pentagon.
End of story an airplane never hit the Pentagon. So they are lying about that. What else are they lying about? The victims of 911 and their families deserve justice. The real criminals need to pay. A lot of criminals the past hundred years have not been held accountable. The people that started WW1 and WW2 have not been held accountable. These cockroaches need to pay. Their bloodlines should be wiped out. They fucked up and now their offspring should pay reparations in blood.
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Do you have any clue whatsoever the number of people involved in a CT like you are suggesting? And not a single name ? Not a single person slipped up. Not a single person confessed ? Not a single person changed their mind? Are you suggesting a military jet or ship fired the missle? Ok. Which one? That’s easy to name sincenif it was a rogue pilot or captain - you are suggestion is that no one realized this like a co pilot or other person on the ship?
The 911s CT’s are all nonsense. Not a single one holds up to two minutes of scrutiny
Less than you would think when it is all compartmentalized. A guy standing 2000 feet from the Pentagon and seeing a decoy plane flying low over the Pentagon and then hearing an explosion legitimately would think it was the low flying airplane that crashed. The plane could be out of view afterwards depending on the viewing angle. That witness was deceived / tricked and would not be in on it.
You are not correct when you say not a single person slipped up. Go watch the taxi cab driver interview. He said it was planned. Some people have ended up dead. Like the pilot's daughter. Go read up on her. Just another coincidence right? I have not even looked at this in more detail but how do you know nobody else has come forward? The fake news won't broadcast it. So have you done research on that?
I can tell you there are thousands of people with classified information on various subjects that are keeping their mouths shut. So this would not be any different. And people like you immediately label anyone that does come out an idiot. Like the taxi driver?
Face it you don't want to believe it. Look at the surveillance video of the Pentagon and be honest what your eyes are telling you. Can that really be an airliner hitting the building? I say no fucking way I see what I see. If I saw wings or anything that looked like a plane I would believe it. But I don't. Even a shitty low resolution video would show an object the size of an airliner if it was really flying into the building.
Do you realize how many people would have to be involved in aiding Clinton so all those people could end up suicided as claimed? I do think people have been murdered to silence them and then it was made to look like a suicide. I am pretty sure you do as well. But now you have a hard time believing 911 could have happened differently than the official version the fake news and investigations presented?
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Do you have any clue whatsoever the number of people involved in a CT like you are suggesting? And not a single name ? Not a single person slipped up. Not a single person confessed ? Not a single person changed their mind? Are you suggesting a military jet or ship fired the missle? Ok. Which one? That’s easy to name sincenif it was a rogue pilot or captain - you are suggestion is that no one realized this like a co pilot or other person on the ship?
The 911s CT’s are all nonsense. Not a single one holds up to two minutes of scrutiny
Ok then scrutinize the surveillance video and why the object hitting the Pentagon is too small to be an airliner? Why is the lawn not damaged? Why are there no airplane debris on some overall lawn photos?
Scrutinize the taxi cab driver. In 2 minutes and convince / change my mind.
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https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/10/07/bringing-closure-to-the-911-pentagon-debate/
This I think conclusively should end this nonsense
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in order to go to war George Bush brought down the WTC and hit the Pentagon costing the lives of over 3000 people and billions of dollars, Tony Blair made up some story about WMD costing nothing.
Americans sure are dumb
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It is entirely possible that the legit witnesses saw a decoy plane fly over the Pentagon low and at the same time heard an explosion from a missile. Not that many people were at the spot where they actually physically saw the impact.
Witness 1 for example did not see the impact. She came there afterwards as I explained. So no she did not see a plane crash into the Pentagon. And she is listed as one of the 87 witnesses.
It is bullshit RopoOOOOO. I can see with my own two eyes and the video they released does not show an airplane. You need to get your brains and eyes checked. Not only are you a moron but you are going blind? I fear for your health!
It should have looked like this:
(http://www.lookingglassnews.org/articles/may06/look.jpeg)
Instead it looked like this:
(https://clintjcl.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/911-pentagon-official-video.gif)
If you say so. But still there would be evidence about that decoy plane after it fly over the Pentagon, because THERE IS A WORLD AND LOT OF PEOPLE EVEN AFTER THE PENTAGON, ISN'T THERE? Even decoy planes doesn't vanish in thin air, do they? So you theory is crap, isn't it? It doesn't work in the real world, but those 87 people saw what they saw, and you can't change that fact by crap like that.
And explosion? Please use only the words you can understand, because there were no explosion, there were implosion. There were nothing flying to outside the building, more than paper and pieces of aluminium aeroplane. There is tons of photos which prove this, but not in your sources, because it doesn't fit in their theory.
And this one witness overrule 86 others? Are you mad? She saw the plane, not plane hitting in the building? Guess what? If you see the 757 few feet above the ground flying towards the building and right after that you heard a loud bang, you see the building in fire, what will it mean? At least 45 people saw airliner which hit the pentagon. These 45 doesn't know what they see, and you know it far better than them, even without leaving your parents basement where you live in? At least 23 of them identify it to be an American airliners plane, and they are all wrong? Of course they are, if you say so, you silly twat.
It should look this, it should look that...and you have proved nothing. 1. frame speed of the camera is known fact. 2. speed of the aeroplane is a known fact. If speed of the aeroplane is too much to register by that frame speed, you can't get good picture of the moving aeroplane. This is so simple, just rudiments of the photography which even children's know it, but you don't? And where do you need that video, while you have 87 eyewitnesses, 45 of them saw the plane, 23 saw whose plane it was etc.? It doesn't play any role in this investigation, while there is tons of pieces of aeroplane at the front yard of the pentagon. While there is bodies of the passengers, while there is all that crap and hundreds of professional investigators searching evidence.
And then there were that flame of the kerosene which ignited in the crash, which is measured and which we know to be burst a of the 7500 gallons worth. Where did that come from? Your 5 meter long cruise missile has that in it's backpack? While these points of your theory doesn't add up at all, presented facts add up with reality just perfectly. How this is possible? Reality is about the facts, tin foil hat idiot fairytale's are plain old crap..
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This shit was almost 20 years ago. Move on.
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This shit was almost 20 years ago. Move on.
Never, congratulation to the US boys who just whacked Bin Laden Jr. ;D
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Then again.
The magic bullet was declared as an official theory in JFK shooting.
I don't try to say I know what happened but:
There is no airliner in that official Pentagon video.
And come on. Aluminium wings just evaporated? 8t steel engines didn't break the walls?
There is no airliner crashed in to the Pennsylvanian field.
At least at the site that they show us on TV and videos. What happened, did it just sunk in to the ground? Did it leave a similar hole that we see in Discover channels Gold Rush?
Fuck, An airliner didn't even sink in to a Hudson river, but here it just wanished in to the soil?
No western building ever would caught fire from floating debris and crumble.
Maybe if it was Japanese with paper walls or maaayyyybe, if it was made of wood. It wasn't.
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2 words
Larry Silverstein
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And no engines seen at the Pentagon crash site. Even in Africa’s latest crash involving a 737 max8 that literally fell from the sky head first with a mind boggling speed, you can see the engines at the crash site. I don’t know what the fuck hit Pentagon but as i said even a skilled pilot would have a dificulty hitting the wall near ground level with a commercial airplane. And supposedly a couple of goatfuckers did it in their first attemp yet they had trained on smaller planes for less than what, a year? This doesn’t make any sense
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I haven’t the answer as to what exactly happened on that dreadful day, but what I will say is, the “official” stories are loads of crap.
You objectively research (in a hobbyist way) everything for many years and it becomes entirely obvious we’ve been told crazy amounts of pure horseshit.
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Right, OK... it was a huge plot no planes, missiles and all organised by Bush...fact.
Ok, now what?
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If you say so. But still there would be evidence about that decoy plane after it fly over the Pentagon, because THERE IS A WORLD AND LOT OF PEOPLE EVEN AFTER THE PENTAGON, ISN'T THERE? Even decoy planes doesn't vanish in thin air, do they? So you theory is crap, isn't it? It doesn't work in the real world, but those 87 people saw what they saw, and you can't change that fact by crap like that.
And explosion? Please use only the words you can understand, because there were no explosion, there were implosion. There were nothing flying to outside the building, more than paper and pieces of aluminium aeroplane. There is tons of photos which prove this, but not in your sources, because it doesn't fit in their theory.
And this one witness overrule 86 others? Are you mad? She saw the plane, not plane hitting in the building? Guess what? If you see the 757 few feet above the ground flying towards the building and right after that you heard a loud bang, you see the building in fire, what will it mean? At least 45 people saw airliner which hit the pentagon. These 45 doesn't know what they see, and you know it far better than them, even without leaving your parents basement where you live in? At least 23 of them identify it to be an American airliners plane, and they are all wrong? Of course they are, if you say so, you silly twat.
It should look this, it should look that...and you have proved nothing. 1. frame speed of the camera is known fact. 2. speed of the aeroplane is a known fact. If speed of the aeroplane is too much to register by that frame speed, you can't get good picture of the moving aeroplane. This is so simple, just rudiments of the photography which even children's know it, but you don't? And where do you need that video, while you have 87 eyewitnesses, 45 of them saw the plane, 23 saw whose plane it was etc.? It doesn't play any role in this investigation, while there is tons of pieces of aeroplane at the front yard of the pentagon. While there is bodies of the passengers, while there is all that crap and hundreds of professional investigators searching evidence.
And then there were that flame of the kerosene which ignited in the crash, which is measured and which we know to be burst a of the 7500 gallons worth. Where did that come from? Your 5 meter long cruise missile has that in it's backpack? While these points of your theory doesn't add up at all, presented facts add up with reality just perfectly. How this is possible? Reality is about the facts, tin foil hat idiot fairytale's are plain old crap..
Ropoooooo,
There was a plane spotted flying above the White House after the Pentagon was hit. That could have been the decoy plane...
Don't be a moron Ropo. You still haven't answered me. Do you see a large airplane in the Pentagon impact video?
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Ropoooooo,
There was a plane spotted flying above the White House after the Pentagon was hit. That could have been the decoy plane...
Don't be a moron Ropo. You still haven't answered me. Do you see a large airplane in the Pentagon impact video?
Lol
He demolished your CT. Stop now.
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Lol
He demolished your CT. Stop now.
Stop, just stop. He did not you're full of shit! Go train your grip so you can open a water bottle!
And regarding the big flame after the explosion, there could have been fuel in one of the rooms if a missile hit it. He still has not explained where the large airplane is in the impact video. Neither have you. Show me where the wings are? Why is it so small?
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https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/1521598/9-11-pentagon-attack-witnesses-proved-to-be-lying
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http://www1.ae911truth.org/en/evidence/550-jowenko.html
"It starts from below... They have simply blown away columns."
"This is controlled demolition."
"A team of experts did this."
These startling words, spoken by controlled demolition expert Danny Jowenko in 2006, ignited an international discussion over the destruction of WTC Building 7, and added to the professional voices at AE911Truth who have challenged the official explanation. As we mourn Jowenko’s tragic death on July 16, we look back at how his impromptu interview shed light onto one of the greatest mysteries of the 9/11 catastrophe.
Jowenko was the owner of Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie, a controlled demolitions company headquartered in the Netherlands. He had over 30 years of building demolition experience, and his knowledge of explosives was so respected that he was sought as a contributor to the ImplosionWorld production of "A History of Structural Demolition in America".
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http://www1.ae911truth.org/en/evidence/550-jowenko.html
"It starts from below... They have simply blown away columns."
"This is controlled demolition."
"A team of experts did this."
These startling words, spoken by controlled demolition expert Danny Jowenko in 2006, ignited an international discussion over the destruction of WTC Building 7, and added to the professional voices at AE911Truth who have challenged the official explanation. As we mourn Jowenko’s tragic death on July 16, we look back at how his impromptu interview shed light onto one of the greatest mysteries of the 9/11 catastrophe.
Jowenko was the owner of Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie, a controlled demolitions company headquartered in the Netherlands. He had over 30 years of building demolition experience, and his knowledge of explosives was so respected that he was sought as a contributor to the ImplosionWorld production of "A History of Structural Demolition in America".
So, you don't think the severe damage and fire had anything to do with the collapse of WTC7? ???
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So, you don't think the severe damage and fire had anything to do with the collapse of WTC7? ???
So you believe that a single bullit turned in mid air after exiting Kennedy and went thru him again?
Maybe you should ask how an commercial airliner that can have serious damage from a flock of birds can penetrate inches thick solid steel beams?
Aluminium and glassfibre wings, sliced trough steel, concrete and thick glass like Qui Gon Jins light sabre.
Billions have seen it on TV. Most of the citizens in the tri state area seem to remember seen it live. How many really did.
Don't really care to argue. It just baffels me that these official explanations are so full of shit
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So you believe that a single bullit turned in mid air after exiting Kennedy and went thru him again?
Maybe you should ask how an commercial airliner that can have serious damage from a flock of birds can penetrate inches thick solid steel beams?
Aluminium and glassfibre wings, sliced trough steel, concrete and thick glass like Qui Gon Jins light sabre.
Billions have seen it on TV. Most of the citizens in the tri state area seem to remember seen it live. How many really did.
Don't really care to argue. It just baffels me that these official explanations are so full of shit
I can't make heads or tails of what you're trying to say. ???
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So you believe that a single bullit turned in mid air after exiting Kennedy and went thru him again?
Maybe you should ask how an commercial airliner that can have serious damage from a flock of birds can penetrate inches thick solid steel beams?
Aluminium and glassfibre wings, sliced trough steel, concrete and thick glass like Qui Gon Jins light sabre.
Billions have seen it on TV. Most of the citizens in the tri state area seem to remember seen it live. How many really did.
Don't really care to argue. It just baffels me that these official explanations are so full of shit
you obviously havent studied bullet trajectory through a human, they tend to ricochet off bone
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Stop, just stop. He did not you're full of shit! Go train your grip so you can open a water bottle!
And regarding the big flame after the explosion, there could have been fuel in one of the rooms if a missile hit it. He still has not explained where the large airplane is in the impact video. Neither have you. Show me where the wings are? Why is it so small?
fuels in one of the rooms if a missile hit it? WHAT? So now the theory is that fuel was placed in the room or something like that? Was it a jet plane to fired from the air? Or from a ship? What is the theory with that?
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Stop, just stop. He did not you're full of shit! Go train your grip so you can open a water bottle!
And regarding the big flame after the explosion, there could have been fuel in one of the rooms if a missile hit it. He still has not explained where the large airplane is in the impact video. Neither have you. Show me where the wings are? Why is it so small?
yes thousands of gallons of jet fuel to keep the radiators warm
Fucking hell mate, seriously...
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Can someone let me know how a cell phone in 2001 on a plane in the air worked to make a call?
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Can someone let me know how a cell phone in 2001 on a plane in the air worked to make a call?
The cell phone connects to a tower on the ground, to complete the call.
Hope this helps.
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Can someone let me know how a cell phone in 2001 on a plane in the air worked to make a call?
Science.
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The cell phone connects to a tower on the ground, to complete the call.
Hope this helps.
Not in 2001 it didn't
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Can someone let me know how a cell phone in 2001 on a plane in the air worked to make a call?
can someone tell me how they talked to a man in the moon in 1969?
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can someone tell me how they talked to a man in the moon in 1969?
Today sexy Chinese girl (she study mechanical engineering) told me that China landed on the moon , many many times ......... ::)
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Not in 2001 it didn't
Yes, they did.
Final Contact
Nov 1, 2001 12:00 PM, By Betsy Harter
Will rules change concerning wireless calls on planes?
Early Sept. 11, airline passengers all over the country boarded their flights like any other day. Many chatted on their wireless phones. As the doors closed and the pilots prepared the planes for take-off, flight attendants asked passengers to turn off their wireless phones until the planes had landed at their destinations.
But on four flights, these phones would offer the last contact passengers would have with their loved ones. They would be using their wireless phones to say goodbye.
Later that morning, thousands of stunned people working at or near the World Trade Center's twin towers in New York City also reached for their wireless phones to call family and friends after the two buildings had been attacked by commercial airplanes. The fortunate ones were able to reassure loved ones that they had made it out of the buildings safely. The others made their last calls.
The use of wireless phones during the attacks already has caused some unexpected changes. AT&T; Wireless, Nextel and Verizon Wireless all reported increases in wireless-handset sales immediately following the attacks, perhaps due to heightened safety concerns. But will the importance of wireless phones during this tragedy spur other changes as well?
CALLING FROM 30,000 FEET
Because wireless networks are designed for terrestrial use, the fact that so many people were able to call from the sky brings into question how the phones worked from such altitudes.
Alexa Graf, AT&T; spokesperson, said systems are not designed for calls from high altitudes, suggesting it was almost a fluke that the calls reached their destinations.
“On land, we have antenna sectors that point in three directions — say north, southwest, and southeast,” she explained. “Those signals are radiating across the land, and those signals do go up, too, due to leakage.”
From high altitudes, the call quality is not very good, and most callers will experience drops. Although calls are not reliable, callers can pick up and hold calls for a little while below a certain altitude, she added.
Brenda Raney, Verizon Wireless spokesperson, said that RF signals actually can broadcast fairly high. On Sept. 11, the planes were flying low when people started using their phones. And, each call lasted 60 seconds or less.
“They also were digital phones, and there's a little bit more leeway on those digital phones, so it worked,” she said.
It helped that the planes were flying in areas with plenty of cell sites, too. Even United Airlines flight 93, which crashed in rural Pennsylvania, was supported by several nearby cell sites, Raney added.
Despite the numerous calls from wireless phones, it was the hijackers — not interference with the airplane's operating system — that brought the four planes down. Many in the wireless industry question whether wireless devices cause problems on board aircraft after all.
“With air travel, you want to take every precaution you can, but my understanding is that not calling from planes is a bit of a precaution,” Graf said.
Keith Nowak, Nokia media relations manager, agreed.
“In reality, a cell phone could cause a warning light not to work, but it wouldn't be anything serious. There's the potential to cause some effects, but it's generally a preventative measure.”
CHANGE UNLIKELY
Following the attacks, Northjersey.com reported that the FAA is rethinking the ban on cell phones while flying. However, it looks as though any change is unlikely.
“Practically the entire spectrum of options for improving safety and security are being looked at in the wake of the Sept. 11 incidents, but I can't speculate on whether or not one would be to authorize the use of cell phones in an emergency, especially because there's evidence that cell phones can interfere with critical systems,” said Les Dorr, FAA spokesperson.
Dorr emphasized that the rules prohibiting wireless-phone use while flying is not actually an FAA prohibition, but an FCC restriction. The FAA supports that restriction because it's possible that wireless phones could pose a source of interference to critical aircraft systems.
“FAA regulations prohibit any device that is an intentional emitter of radiation, which a cell phone obviously is,” he added.
According to an advisory on the FAA Web site, the FCC currently prohibits the use and operation of wireless phones while airborne. Its primary concern is that a wireless phone, while used airborne, would have a much greater transmitting range than a land mobile unit.
“This could result in serious interference to transmissions at other cell locations since the system uses the same frequency several times within a market,” according to the advisory. Because a cellular mobile telephone is capable of operating on all assignable cellular frequencies, serious interference also may occur to cellular systems in adjacent markets.
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Then again.
The magic bullet was declared as an official theory in JFK shooting.
I don't try to say I know what happened but:
There is no airliner in that official Pentagon video.
And come on. Aluminium wings just evaporated? 8t steel engines didn't break the walls?
There is no airliner crashed in to the Pennsylvanian field.
At least at the site that they show us on TV and videos. What happened, did it just sunk in to the ground? Did it leave a similar hole that we see in Discover channels Gold Rush?
Fuck, An airliner didn't even sink in to a Hudson river, but here it just wanished in to the soil?
No western building ever would caught fire from floating debris and crumble.
Maybe if it was Japanese with paper walls or maaayyyybe, if it was made of wood. It wasn't.
Then again, there is perfectly logical explanation for the magic bullet, which is magic only for ignorant morons. https://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2009/01/kennedy-assassination-magic-bullet-theory-versus-single-bullet-fact.html (https://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2009/01/kennedy-assassination-magic-bullet-theory-versus-single-bullet-fact.html)
There is no airliner in Pennsylvanian field, say denialistic moron, while it is proved hundreds of times that there was. "Never seen that before"..just google pictures of the flight PSA 1771, and you find similar dent on the field, with lot of tiny bits of aluminium.
Your arguments are so stupid, because they are all based on single thing: denial of reality. There is tons of evidence which prove that official report was 100% correct. There is no evidence what so ever that there would have been any kind of conspiracy. 18 years and 0 evidence about conspiracy, other than plot of BinLaden & Ragheads. Think about that for while. How it is possible, that there is 0 evidence about the conspiracy, just lies, claims and bs? Not even simplest question answered, like where exactly we see those explosions in twin towers? 18 years, and no one have been able to present that moment from any of the videos. How this is possible? Only if there wasn't any, and what that will mean to the rest of the theory? No explosions = whole theory is just crap.
For example, those aluminium wings, what the hell did happen to those? You mean these aluminium foil like wings, with tanks filled with kerosene? What do you think? What would happen, if you shot aluminium soda can to the concrete with that same speed, something like 250 meters per second? a. there is dent on the wall, and unbroken soda can, b. there is no dent on the wall, but small dent on the soda can, or c. there is wet spot on the wall, and smithereens of the soda can on the ground. It is so simple. Wings, filled with kerosene, hit to the wall at 250 meters per second, so what happens? Kerosene is liquid, and you can't press liquid, it doesn't shrink under pressure. So the volume of the liquid doesn't change, while volume of the wing changes very rapidly. What happen? Just like soda can, those wings goes to the smithereens in microseconds. If you have even the basic knowledge of five year old about physics, you would know this. You guys are wondering bits and pieces, but you don't see the picture which is made from them? You try to see pieces of wings on the front yard of the pentagon, but you don't see that there is no furnitures, no archive cabinets, no copy machines etc. on the yard, as there would be if something would have explode inside the building.
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I just wish mark wahlberg was on one of those planes, would have saved 1 tower atleast
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Then again, there is perfectly logical explanation for the magic bullet, which is magic only for ignorant morons. https://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2009/01/kennedy-assassination-magic-bullet-theory-versus-single-bullet-fact.html (https://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2009/01/kennedy-assassination-magic-bullet-theory-versus-single-bullet-fact.html)
There is no airliner in Pennsylvanian field, say denialistic moron, while it is proved hundreds of times that there was. "Never seen that before"..just google pictures of the flight PSA 1771, and you find similar dent on the field, with lot of tiny bits of aluminium.
Your arguments are so stupid, because they are all based on single thing: denial of reality. There is tons of evidence which prove that official report was 100% correct. There is no evidence what so ever that there would have been any kind of conspiracy. 18 years and 0 evidence about conspiracy, other than plot of BinLaden & Ragheads. Think about that for while. How it is possible, that there is 0 evidence about the conspiracy, just lies, claims and bs? Not even simplest question answered, like where exactly we see those explosions in twin towers? 18 years, and no one have been able to present that moment from any of the videos. How this is possible? Only if there wasn't any, and what that will mean to the rest of the theory? No explosions = whole theory is just crap.
For example, those aluminium wings, what the hell did happen to those? You mean these aluminium foil like wings, with tanks filled with kerosene? What do you think? What would happen, if you shot aluminium soda can to the concrete with that same speed, something like 250 meters per second? a. there is dent on the wall, and unbroken soda can, b. there is no dent on the wall, but small dent on the soda can, or c. there is wet spot on the wall, and smithereens of the soda can on the ground. It is so simple. Wings, filled with kerosene, hit to the wall at 250 meters per second, so what happens? Kerosene is liquid, and you can't press liquid, it doesn't shrink under pressure. So the volume of the liquid doesn't change, while volume of the wing changes very rapidly. What happen? Just like soda can, those wings goes to the smithereens in microseconds. If you have even the basic knowledge of five year old about physics, you would know this. You guys are wondering bits and pieces, but you don't see the picture which is made from them? You try to see pieces of wings on the front yard of the pentagon, but you don't see that there is no furnitures, no archive cabinets, no copy machines etc. on the yard, as there would be if something would have explode inside the building.
Rational peoples evidence = The Official report
Conspiracy theorists evidence = "Something doesnt look right"
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Just like soda can, those wings goes to the smithereens in microseconds. If you have even the basic knowledge of five year old about physics, you would know this.
Those wing cut through WTCs outer wall of steel, concrete and reinforced glass quite handily though?
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So, you don't think the severe damage and fire had anything to do with the collapse of WTC7? ???
No I don't. I am sure it had some damage, but not enough to make it collapse the way it did.
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fuels in one of the rooms if a missile hit it? WHAT? So now the theory is that fuel was placed in the room or something like that? Was it a jet plane to fired from the air? Or from a ship? What is the theory with that?
http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2018/03/media-business-middleman-was-shown.html
Larry Garrison, a leading "story broker" whose job is to deliver tabloid stories to television news programs, was sent a video in the months after 9/11, which clearly showed that the Pentagon was hit by something much smaller than a commercial airliner--perhaps a missile--on September 11, 2001. However, when he passed copies of this video on to news organizations, they refused to broadcast the footage and instead sternly warned him to cease trying to get it released.
While a few videos showing the attack on the Pentagon have been released in the years since Garrison received this footage, they appear to be different to what Garrison was sent. Furthermore, none of them have been of sufficient quality to determine conclusively what hit the Pentagon on September 11. The type of aircraft involved in the attack has therefore remained a subject of controversy.
If Garrison's account is accurate, though, and the video Garrison was sent was authentic, the implications could be huge. If the Pentagon was hit by something other than a Boeing 757--the kind of aircraft that, according to the official narrative of 9/11, crashed into it--this video could reveal that the public has been seriously deceived. And if the footage was made public, its release could lead to a complete reassessment of the 9/11 attacks.
'STORY BROKER' WAS TOLD ABOUT A VIDEO THAT SHOWED A MISSILE FLYING INTO THE PENTAGON
Larry Garrison, president of SilverCreek Entertainment in Los Angeles, is what is known as a "story broker." Story brokers "place themselves as middlemen between the supply of human drama and the demand for it--so news organizations have to do business with them," according to the New York Observer. [6] Garrison "gets paid to bring tabloid stories to TV news programs," The Atlantic reported. [7]
He is the "king" of his line of work, according to numerous sources at the ABC network. [8] He has decades of experience in the media business, and has produced and brokered major news stories for ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, NBC News, and other major media organizations. [9]
In his memoir, The NewsBreaker, Garrison recalled that a few months after 9/11, he received a curious e-mail from someone who referred to himself by the pseudonym "Carl." Garrison was initially suspicious about Carl, assuming he was just a hoaxer trying to cash in on the tragic events of September 11. However, Garrison wrote, "when he told me he had a video of a missile flying into the Pentagon, not a passenger jet, I listened." Carl stated that he would like to meet Garrison and show him the video. He added, however, that "the FBI was trying to stop him from showing it to anyone."
Although Carl's claim was extraordinary, Garrison felt this man was trustworthy. "For the most part, my 20-plus years of experience helps me weed out the fakes; this guy sounded real," he has commented. He apparently talked with Carl on the phone after receiving the e-mail and "could feel the sense of urgency in his voice, and the sincerity." [10]
After researching the attack on the Pentagon and noting various anomalies that had been highlighted by commentators on the Internet, Garrison wanted to get hold of the video that Carl said he possessed. Although he was unable to persuade Carl to meet up in person, Carl did e-mail him a copy of the video. It turned out to be devastating.
Although the footage was less clear than the story broker would have liked, Garrison recalled, "it left no doubt whatsoever that what hit the Pentagon on 9/11 wasn't a 757." While the quality of the image made it impossible to determine for sure what crashed into the Pentagon, the object in the video "looked like a smaller plane or [a] cruise missile."
Upon consideration, Garrison decided it was more likely a missile, since he felt there had been greater damage to the reinforced walls of the Pentagon than a small plane could have caused. He concluded: "When I look at some of the news archives and compare the damage to the Pentagon to other concrete buildings that have been hit with a cruise missile, I have no doubt in my mind that something other than a 757 hit the Pentagon on 9/11." [11]
NEWS ORGANIZATIONS REFUSED TO BROADCAST THE FOOTAGE
Garrison initially felt certain that once he passed on this astonishing video to the news networks, what it showed would become a major story and the "media machine" would then "mobilize all of its resources to discover, or uncover, what really happened." He soon found that his assumption was wrong.
After receiving the video from Carl, he contacted a couple of major news organizations. When he explained to them what he had, the people he talked to replied enthusiastically: "Oh, my God! Get that tape over here right away!"
He sent them copies of the video and then waited for a couple of days, expecting to see the footage appearing and being discussed on the news. Instead, however, the people at the news organizations called him back and warned him to abandon his efforts to get the video released to the public. He was told: "Larry, you need to listen to me on this. The video never existed. You never saw it. This could cause some real trouble if you pursue it any further." [12]
Garrison had initially been determined to help the public understand what had happened on September 11. On the day of the terrorist attacks, he recalled, "The one thing I did know was that I would find answers sooner than most and I felt obligated to make sure that [the public] knew everything I knew." [13] But what he was now being told and the manner in which it was said led him to have a change of heart.
"I remember hanging up the phone knowing that I could be putting my family and myself at risk if I tried to push the issue, and I knew there was no way to protect myself," he wrote. Therefore, he added, "I backed off." [14]
757 PILOT SAID THERE WAS 'ZERO' CHANCE OF A NOVICE CARRYING OUT THE PENTAGON ATTACK
A few weeks before he received the e-mail from Carl, a man had phoned him and claimed that "he had evidence that it was impossible for the damage at the Pentagon to be caused by a passenger jet, because it was impossible for a plane of that size to fly at an altitude that low, at that speed."
A few days later, Garrison questioned one of the pilots of a 757 he was about to board for a business trip. Garrison asked the pilot, who said he had accumulated thousands of hours of flying time in his career, "if he had the skill to fly a 757 10 to 20 feet off the ground at a speed of over 500 miles an hour," meaning in the way that Flight 77 was allegedly flown toward the Pentagon. "Chuck Yeager couldn't do that!" the pilot replied. (Chuck Yeager was a flying ace and test pilot who became the first man to fly faster than the speed of sound.)
The pilot explained that planes the size of a passenger jet "do not react in an instant" and "the control inputs take longer to change the plane's altitude." The large surface areas and the weight of the plane "would make it impossible to have the degree of control you would have to have to fly at that altitude without crashing into the ground," he said. "I really don't think it would be possible," he concluded.
Garrison then asked the pilot what he thought the chances were of a novice with very limited training--i.e. someone like Hanjour--being able to hit a target with pinpoint accuracy. "Zero," the pilot replied. He added that a passenger jet's autopilot "isn't even that good and, if it were on, it would not allow the plane to fly at a low altitude, let alone treetop level." [26]
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https://nationandstate.com/2019/06/08/u-s-military-assets-used-to-attack-pentagon-on-9-11-video-proof/
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757 PILOT SAID THERE WAS 'ZERO' CHANCE OF A NOVICE CARRYING OUT THE PENTAGON ATTACK
A few weeks before he received the e-mail from Carl, a man had phoned him and claimed that "he had evidence that it was impossible for the damage at the Pentagon to be caused by a passenger jet, because it was impossible for a plane of that size to fly at an altitude that low, at that speed."
A few days later, Garrison questioned one of the pilots of a 757 he was about to board for a business trip. Garrison asked the pilot, who said he had accumulated thousands of hours of flying time in his career, "if he had the skill to fly a 757 10 to 20 feet off the ground at a speed of over 500 miles an hour," meaning in the way that Flight 77 was allegedly flown toward the Pentagon. "Chuck Yeager couldn't do that!" the pilot replied. (Chuck Yeager was a flying ace and test pilot who became the first man to fly faster than the speed of sound.)
The pilot explained that planes the size of a passenger jet "do not react in an instant" and "the control inputs take longer to change the plane's altitude." The large surface areas and the weight of the plane "would make it impossible to have the degree of control you would have to have to fly at that altitude without crashing into the ground," he said. "I really don't think it would be possible," he concluded.
Garrison then asked the pilot what he thought the chances were of a novice with very limited training--i.e. someone like Hanjour--being able to hit a target with pinpoint accuracy. "Zero," the pilot replied. He added that a passenger jet's autopilot "isn't even that good and, if it were on, it would not allow the plane to fly at a low altitude, let alone treetop level." [26]
so a bloke heard form another bloke who said ......
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https://defendingthetruth.com/threads/the-pentagon-on-911-a-cruise-missile-struck-the-building.14045/
OTHER AIRCRAFT NEAR THE PENTAGON
Furthermore, there were at least two other military aircraft near the Pentagon at the time it was hit. A C-130 cargo plane that took off from Andrews Air Force Base, which is 10 miles from the Pentagon, was airborne by 9:33 a.m., and was seen by numerous witnesses above the Pentagon just after the attack there. [5] Its pilot reportedly witnessed the explosion from the Pentagon crash. [6]
And television news reporters described a "white jet" plane that was "circling the White House" a few minutes after the Pentagon was hit. [7] The White House is about three miles from the Pentagon, two government sources familiar with the incident later told CNN that the plane was a military aircraft, but its details were classified.
An analysis by CNN suggested the aircraft was an E-4B, which is a militarized version of a Boeing 747 that is used as a flying command post. [8] One such aircraft is known to have taken off from an airfield outside Washington, DC, shortly before the Pentagon was hit. [9]
Considering the historical significance of the 9/11 attacks, which have had devastating consequences that affect us to this day, it is essential that important details surrounding those attacks be thoroughly investigated. We therefore need to know exactly what the two aircraft--Bobcat 14 and Bobcat 17--were, and why they were flying above the Pentagon around the time it was attacked on September 11.
NOTES
[1] "Partial Transcript; Aircraft Accident; AAL77; Washington, DC; September 11, 2001." Federal Aviation Administration, September 20, 2001.
[2] 9/11 Commission, The 9/11 Commission Report: Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (Authorized Edition). New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 2004, p. 10.
[3] "Memorandum for the Record: Visit to Reagan National Airport Control Tower in Alexandria, VA and Andrews Air Force Base Control Tower." 9/11 Commission, July 28, 2003.
[4] Ibid.
[5] "AA 77 Radar-Based Timeline and Maps." 9/11 Commission, n.d.; "9:37 a.m. September 11, 2001: Witnesses See Military Cargo Plane Near Flight 77; Pilot Later Implies he is Far Away." Complete 9/11 Timeline.
[6] "The Secret History of 9/11: The U.S. Government Reacts." CBC, September 10, 2006.
[7] "Planes Crash Into World Trade Center." ABC News, September 11, 2001; "The White House Has Been Evacuated." Breaking News, CNN, September 11, 2001.
[8] "Tropical Storm Humberto Heads for Texas; Democrats Blast Petraeus Timeline for Troop Withdrawal; Interview With General David Petraeus." Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees, CNN, September 12, 2007.
[9] Dan Verton, Black Ice: The Invisible Threat of Cyber-Terrorism. Emeryville, CA: McGraw-Hill/Osborne, 2003, pp. 143-144. According to former 9/11 Commission staff member Miles Kara, this E-4B aircraft took off from Andrews Air Force Base and was airborne at 9:27 a.m. See Miles Kara, "9/11: The Mystery Plane; Not so Mysterious." 9/11 Revisited, June 30, 2009.
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This discussion is almost pointless.
Watched yesterday on Netflix the doc on Freeway Rick Ross.
Again, reliable sources saying the crackcocaine in the 80s, on South Central Los Angeles were 'sort' of a scheme so the Reagan could send some of the money to the 'Contras' in Nicaragua in the mid 80s to fight communism over there.
I dont trust governments at all, so to each its own..
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yes thousands of gallons of jet fuel to keep the radiators warm
Fucking hell mate, seriously...
Who said that?! It could have been placed there in barrels. Just speculating. They could have brought it in after hours when the local secretary was not there lol! And how many barrels would you need? I have no idea I am not an expert just speculating. It's not like sending a man to the moon. I would think not that difficult to coordinate. Easier than magically flying a large airliner a few feet off the ground over a populated area (impossible).
Then again it could have been a new type of missile.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a18994/tomahawk-missiles-fuel-air-explosion/
The Tomahawk cruise missile is unusual in that it uses turbine powered by a liquid fuel known as JP-10. Normal aviation fuel, JP-5 or Jet-A kerosene, produces about 125,000 BTUs per gallon, 10 percent more than gasoline. JP-10, otherwise called exo-tetrahydrodicyclopentadiene, pushes this number up by another 10 percent. It's the best around, but costs around $25 a gallon.
The Tomahawk Block III is loaded with more than a thousand pounds of JP-10 on launch, giving it a range of more than 800 miles. So, if the target is only 400 miles away, the missile may have some five hundred pounds of fuel left on impact. That leftover could make quite a bang. A rough calculation suggests the total energy content of that much jet fuel is several times greater than the Tomahawk's explosive warhead (approximately a thousand pounds of PBXN-107 plastic-bonded explosive). However, creating such an explosion would mean turning all the fuel into a vapor cloud and detonating it efficiently. And therein lies the trick.
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US False flag attacks and proposed false flag attacks have been around for decades.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming them on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The possibilities detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] The proposals were rejected by John F. Kennedy.[3][4][5]
https://fair.org/media-beat-column/30-year-anniversary-tonkin-gulf-lie-launched-vietnam-war/
Thirty years ago, it all seemed very clear.
“American Planes Hit North Vietnam After Second Attack on Our Destroyers; Move Taken to Halt New Aggression”, announced a Washington Post headline on Aug. 5, 1964.
That same day, the front page of the New York Times reported: “President Johnson has ordered retaliatory action against gunboats and ‘certain supporting facilities in North Vietnam’ after renewed attacks against American destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin.”
But there was no “second attack” by North Vietnam — no “renewed attacks against American destroyers.” By reporting official claims as absolute truths, American journalism opened the floodgates for the bloody Vietnam War.
A pattern took hold: continuous government lies passed on by pliant mass media…leading to over 50,000 American deaths and millions of Vietnamese casualties.
The official story was that North Vietnamese torpedo boats launched an “unprovoked attack” against a U.S. destroyer on “routine patrol” in the Tonkin Gulf on Aug. 2 — and that North Vietnamese PT boats followed up with a “deliberate attack” on a pair of U.S. ships two days later.
The truth was very different.
Rather than being on a routine patrol Aug. 2, the U.S. destroyer Maddox was actually engaged in aggressive intelligence-gathering maneuvers — in sync with coordinated attacks on North Vietnam by the South Vietnamese navy and the Laotian air force.
“The day before, two attacks on North Vietnam…had taken place,” writes scholar Daniel C. Hallin. Those assaults were “part of a campaign of increasing military pressure on the North that the United States had been pursuing since early 1964.”
On the night of Aug. 4, the Pentagon proclaimed that a second attack by North Vietnamese PT boats had occurred earlier that day in the Tonkin Gulf — a report cited by President Johnson as he went on national TV that evening to announce a momentous escalation in the war: air strikes against North Vietnam.
But Johnson ordered U.S. bombers to “retaliate” for a North Vietnamese torpedo attack that never happened.
Prior to the U.S. air strikes, top officials in Washington had reason to doubt that any Aug. 4 attack by North Vietnam had occurred. Cables from the U.S. task force commander in the Tonkin Gulf, Captain John J. Herrick, referred to “freak weather effects,” “almost total darkness” and an “overeager sonarman” who “was hearing ship’s own propeller beat.”
One of the Navy pilots flying overhead that night was squadron commander James Stockdale, who gained fame later as a POW and then Ross Perot’s vice presidential candidate. “I had the best seat in the house to watch that event,” recalled Stockdale a few years ago, “and our destroyers were just shooting at phantom targets — there were no PT boats there…. There was nothing there but black water and American fire power.”
In 1965, Lyndon Johnson commented: “For all I know, our Navy was shooting at whales out there.”
But Johnson’s deceitful speech of Aug. 4, 1964, won accolades from editorial writers. The president, proclaimed the New York Times, “went to the American people last night with the somber facts.” The Los Angeles Times urged Americans to “face the fact that the Communists, by their attack on American vessels in international waters, have themselves escalated the hostilities.”
An exhaustive new book, The War Within: America’s Battle Over Vietnam, begins with a dramatic account of the Tonkin Gulf incidents. In an interview, author Tom Wells told us that American media “described the air strikes that Johnson launched in response as merely `tit for tat’ — when in reality they reflected plans the administration had already drawn up for gradually increasing its overt military pressure against the North.”
Why such inaccurate news coverage? Wells points to the media’s “almost exclusive reliance on U.S. government officials as sources of information” — as well as “reluctance to question official pronouncements on ‘national security issues.'”
Daniel Hallin’s classic book The “Uncensored War” observes that journalists had “a great deal of information available which contradicted the official account [of Tonkin Gulf events]; it simply wasn’t used. The day before the first incident, Hanoi had protested the attacks on its territory by Laotian aircraft and South Vietnamese gunboats.”
What’s more, “It was generally known…that `covert’ operations against North Vietnam, carried out by South Vietnamese forces with U.S. support and direction, had been going on for some time.”
In the absence of independent journalism, the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution — the closest thing there ever was to a declaration of war against North Vietnam — sailed through Congress on Aug. 7. (Two courageous senators, Wayne Morse of Oregon and Ernest Gruening of Alaska, provided the only “no” votes.) The resolution authorized the president “to take all necessary measures to repel any armed attack against the forces of the United States and to prevent further aggression.”
The rest is tragic history.
Nearly three decades later, during the Gulf War, columnist Sydney Schanberg warned journalists not to forget “our unquestioning chorus of agreeability when Lyndon Johnson bamboozled us with his fabrication of the Gulf of Tonkin incident.”
Schanberg blamed not only the press but also “the apparent amnesia of the wider American public.”
And he added: “We Americans are the ultimate innocents. We are forever desperate to believe that this time the government is telling us the truth.”
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This discussion is almost pointless.
Watched yesterday on Netflix the doc on Freeway Rick Ross.
Again, reliable sources saying the crackcocaine in the 80s, on South Central Los Angeles were 'sort' of a scheme so the Reagan could send some of the money to the 'Contras' in Nicaragua in the mid 80s to fight communism over there.
I dont trust governments at all, so to each its own..
I don’t trust the govt either. But to me - if you want to blame incompetence - sure. But some evil genius plot - no. Too many people to make it happen at cters want us to believe
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Who said that?! It could have been placed there in barrels. Just speculating. They could have brought it in after hours when the local secretary was not there lol! And how many barrels would you need? I have no idea I am not an expert just speculating. It's not like sending a man to the moon. I would think not that difficult to coordinate. Easier than magically flying a large airliner a few feet off the ground over a populated area (impossible).
Then again it could have been a new type of missile.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a18994/tomahawk-missiles-fuel-air-explosion/
The Tomahawk cruise missile is unusual in that it uses turbine powered by a liquid fuel known as JP-10. Normal aviation fuel, JP-5 or Jet-A kerosene, produces about 125,000 BTUs per gallon, 10 percent more than gasoline. JP-10, otherwise called exo-tetrahydrodicyclopentadiene, pushes this number up by another 10 percent. It's the best around, but costs around $25 a gallon.
The Tomahawk Block III is loaded with more than a thousand pounds of JP-10 on launch, giving it a range of more than 800 miles. So, if the target is only 400 miles away, the missile may have some five hundred pounds of fuel left on impact. That leftover could make quite a bang. A rough calculation suggests the total energy content of that much jet fuel is several times greater than the Tomahawk's explosive warhead (approximately a thousand pounds of PBXN-107 plastic-bonded explosive). However, creating such an explosion would mean turning all the fuel into a vapor cloud and detonating it efficiently. And therein lies the trick.
Here is little something just for you, who think that eyewitnesses didn't know if there were a missile passing by, or passenger jet:
This is exactly what those people see, only different place. Do you still think that they can't recognize what they see? If you can't, they can because most of them had working healthy brains without any kind of handicap. I don't say that you have handicap, but you have to be among 10 most stupid people on this planet ;D
Tomahawk:
Mass 2,900 lb (1,300 kg), 3,500 lb (1,600 kg) with booster
Length Without booster: 18 ft 3 in (5.56 m) With booster: 20 ft 6 in (6.25 m)
Diameter 20.4 in (0.52 m)
Boeing 757:
Width 148 in / 3.76 m fuselage, 139.3 in / 3.54 m cabin[30]
Length 155 ft 3 in / 47.3 m 178 ft 7 in / 54.4 m
Height 44 ft 6 in / 13.6 m
Wing 124 ft 10 in / 38.0 m span, 1,994 sq ft (185.25 m2) area,[190] 25° sweep,[191] 7.8 AR
MTOW 255,000 lb / 115,660 kg 273,000 lb / 123,830 kg
Quite a difference? If that is flying 40 feet above your head, you don't recognize it? Ok..
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Here is little something just for you, who think that eyewitnesses didn't know if there were a missile passing by, or passenger jet:
This is exactly what those people see, only different place. Do you still think that they can't recognize what they see? If you can't, they can because most of them had working healthy brains without any kind of handicap. I don't say that you have handicap, but you have to be among 10 most stupid people on this planet ;D
Tomahawk:
Mass 2,900 lb (1,300 kg), 3,500 lb (1,600 kg) with booster
Length Without booster: 18 ft 3 in (5.56 m) With booster: 20 ft 6 in (6.25 m)
Diameter 20.4 in (0.52 m)
Boeing 757:
Width 148 in / 3.76 m fuselage, 139.3 in / 3.54 m cabin[30]
Length 155 ft 3 in / 47.3 m 178 ft 7 in / 54.4 m
Height 44 ft 6 in / 13.6 m
Wing 124 ft 10 in / 38.0 m span, 1,994 sq ft (185.25 m2) area,[190] 25° sweep,[191] 7.8 AR
MTOW 255,000 lb / 115,660 kg 273,000 lb / 123,830 kg
Quite a difference? If that is flying 40 feet above your head, you don't recognize it? Ok..
You are extremely slow. Try to keep up! The theory is there was a decoy plane that flew over the Pentagon. People saw the plane, then heard an explosion and concluded it was the plane that flew into the building after the media and powers that be claimed it was a plane. But in reality it was a missile or a smaller object.
There is only one stupid moron in this discussion and that is you Ropooo. You are so stupid that you can't be honest what your own two eyes show you. There is zero chance that an airplane flew at that ridiculous low angle and crashed into the Pentagon. It is an impossible maneuver for a plane of that size. There is also zero evidence of a plane in the surveillance video footage. Two videos from two cameras were released and there is a difference between them which indicates photoshopping.
I am right, and you are wrong. I am a lot smarter then you will ever be Ropoopoo. Just give up already you are outclassed!
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I don’t trust the govt either. But to me - if you want to blame incompetence - sure. But some evil genius plot - no. Too many people to make it happen at cters want us to believe
And that is why you'll get fucked in the ass over and over again by the gubment. It is actually the opposite. They are evil. They know what they are doing. Why do you think the powers that be want to flood the west with Muslims. Because they are stupid? LMAO. They want people like you gone. And you are too stupid to realize they are at war with you.
What about the Clinton suicides? Did she suicide / silence all the witnesses because she was incompetent or evil? Her husband was probably president when 911 was planned.
Sounds to me like you are giving the government a free pass by excusing their behavior as incompetent? That's not how I roll. I believe in Vlad the Impaler type of justice. The government is evil and needs to be held accountable for their crimes. That means public executions.
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Here is little something just for you, who think that eyewitnesses didn't know if there were a missile passing by, or passenger jet:
This is exactly what those people see, only different place. Do you still think that they can't recognize what they see? If you can't, they can because most of them had working healthy brains without any kind of handicap. I don't say that you have handicap, but you have to be among 10 most stupid people on this planet ;D
Tomahawk:
Mass 2,900 lb (1,300 kg), 3,500 lb (1,600 kg) with booster
Length Without booster: 18 ft 3 in (5.56 m) With booster: 20 ft 6 in (6.25 m)
Diameter 20.4 in (0.52 m)
Boeing 757:
Width 148 in / 3.76 m fuselage, 139.3 in / 3.54 m cabin[30]
Length 155 ft 3 in / 47.3 m 178 ft 7 in / 54.4 m
Height 44 ft 6 in / 13.6 m
Wing 124 ft 10 in / 38.0 m span, 1,994 sq ft (185.25 m2) area,[190] 25° sweep,[191] 7.8 AR
MTOW 255,000 lb / 115,660 kg 273,000 lb / 123,830 kg
Quite a difference? If that is flying 40 feet above your head, you don't recognize it? Ok..
I am glad you pointed out the size of the Boeing 757. Now show me where that large plane is in the surveillance video! Idiot!
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You are extremely slow. Try to keep up! The theory is there was a decoy plane that flew over the Pentagon. People saw the plane, then heard an explosion and concluded it was the plane that flew into the building after the media and powers that be claimed it was a plane. But in reality it was a missile or a smaller object.
There is only one stupid moron in this discussion and that is you Ropooo. You are so stupid that you can't be honest what your own two eyes show you. There is zero chance that an airplane flew at that ridiculous low angle and crashed into the Pentagon. It is an impossible maneuver for a plane of that size. There is also zero evidence of a plane in the surveillance video footage. Two videos from two cameras were released and there is a difference between them which indicates photoshopping.
I am right, and you are wrong. I am a lot smarter then you will ever be Ropoopoo. Just give up already you are outclassed!
I’m no aviation expert- Only something seems more than a little off watching that video
And what is said - why Would they not release other Footage of the inbound plane
And it hitting the building - That in its self is odd.
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And that is why you'll get fucked in the ass over and over again by the gubment. It is actually the opposite. They are evil. They know what they are doing. Why do you think the powers that be want to flood the west with Muslims. Because they are stupid? LMAO. They want people like you gone. And you are too stupid to realize they are at war with you.
What about the Clinton suicides? Did she suicide / silence all the witnesses because she was incompetent or evil? Her husband was probably president when 911 was planned.
Sounds to me like you are giving the government a free pass by excusing their behavior as incompetent? That's not how I roll. I believe in Vlad the Impaler type of justice. The government is evil and needs to be held accountable for their crimes. That means public executions.
they are actually fucking you in the ass and then going straight to your mouth for a blow job, you are running around like a headless chicken trying to prove something that doesnt exist, they have given you just enough doubt in the official story for you to think you are bright enough to "know" the truth.
You sir are dumber than everyone else
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And that is why you'll get fucked in the ass over and over again by the gubment. It is actually the opposite. They are evil. They know what they are doing. Why do you think the powers that be want to flood the west with Muslims. Because they are stupid? LMAO. They want people like you gone. And you are too stupid to realize they are at war with you.
What about the Clinton suicides? Did she suicide / silence all the witnesses because she was incompetent or evil? Her husband was probably president when 911 was planned.
Sounds to me like you are giving the government a free pass by excusing their behavior as incompetent? That's not how I roll. I believe in Vlad the Impaler type of justice. The government is evil and needs to be held accountable for their crimes. That means public executions.
I tend towards agreeing with what you’re saying - Very Clearly we’ve seen & Definitely found out
That Government Lies To People about many different things - Why well we’d have to ask them.
From what I’ve seen & read I highly doubt it was a Very Large Plane Flown by a very Novice
Pilot that managed an advance level flying manoeuvre & as asked where are the engines
From Said plane & landing gear which are the main parts that are not totally wrecked.
Yes I’ve Got My Tin Foil Hat On - Just For Safety.
Before anyone asks. ;D
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You are extremely slow. Try to keep up! The theory is there was a decoy plane that flew over the Pentagon. People saw the plane, then heard an explosion and concluded it was the plane that flew into the building after the media and powers that be claimed it was a plane. But in reality it was a missile or a smaller object.
There is only one stupid moron in this discussion and that is you Ropooo. You are so stupid that you can't be honest what your own two eyes show you. There is zero chance that an airplane flew at that ridiculous low angle and crashed into the Pentagon. It is an impossible maneuver for a plane of that size. There is also zero evidence of a plane in the surveillance video footage. Two videos from two cameras were released and there is a difference between them which indicates photoshopping.
I am right, and you are wrong. I am a lot smarter then you will ever be Ropoopoo. Just give up already you are outclassed!
Well, I rather be extremely slow, than extremely stupid as you are. Just tell me where that decoy- plane went after extremely low flight over the pentagon, which was extremely in synch with the missile, which didn't make an explosion at all, but which also have 17 tons of kerosene on it's backpack? 757 doesn't vanish in thin air even they have been flying over the pentagon, because there is quite a lot of people watching, quite a lot of ground to cover before the first hiding place. You can't realize even that, that these eyewitnesses saw the plane just as close as those people in the video. If you have seen passenger jet so close, you will never forgot it, because it is a fucking impressive sight. You have to deny this reality to get your moronic theory work, and you don't even understand how stupid thing that is to do ;D
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I am glad you pointed out the size of the Boeing 757. Now show me where that large plane is in the surveillance video! Idiot!
Where you need that video, if you have 83 eyewitnesses? That video was taking two pictures per second. For live picture you need 24 pictures per second. If plane is flying 250 meters per second, and width of the picture area is 100 meters, in how many frames you plane is visible? Look at the video, you stupid ;D
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You are extremely slow. Try to keep up! The theory is there was a decoy plane that flew over the Pentagon. People saw the plane, then heard an explosion and concluded it was the plane that flew into the building after the media and powers that be claimed it was a plane. But in reality it was a missile or a smaller object.
There is only one stupid moron in this discussion and that is you Ropooo. You are so stupid that you can't be honest what your own two eyes show you. There is zero chance that an airplane flew at that ridiculous low angle and crashed into the Pentagon. It is an impossible maneuver for a plane of that size. There is also zero evidence of a plane in the surveillance video footage. Two videos from two cameras were released and there is a difference between them which indicates photoshopping.
I am right, and you are wrong. I am a lot smarter then you will ever be Ropoopoo. Just give up already you are outclassed!
And you underline your smartness by presenting this utterly crappy video, where some village idiot try to prove something with the video, which resolution is too crappy to prove anything. He call it "security video analysis", while it is just crap and proves nothing. If you can't see what is in the picture, how can you claim that there is this and that? And still there is 83 eyewitnesses, who saw the passenger jet. "However, thanks to a new report and expert analysis, these videos have been PROVEN to have been edited. "...yes..Not the originals, but the copy which this blockhead is analysing. I mean how fucking stupid man can be and still living? ? ;D ?
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No way a plane as big as the 757, operated by a rookie could fly that low, plus no visible debree. Something else hit Pentagon.
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No way a plane as big as the 757, operated by a rookie could fly that low, plus no visible debree. Something else hit Pentagon.
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No way a plane as big as the 757, operated by a rookie could fly that low, plus no visible debree. Something else hit Pentagon.
So if you say so, if you don't believe it doesn't happen, reality changes by your wish? Try that method with some another context, like paying taxes. I don't believe paying taxes...and look what happen. You morons should understand, that there were tons of visible debris, plane parts etc. and there is tons of pictures about them. Point is that you don't see them in the tin foil hat- web pages, because truth isn't exactly their agenda. There is tons of evidence, and then there is word of the bunch of village idiots, who say there isn't.. So who you should believe? I rather believe the evidence, than village idiots, but you can do what ever you like. No matter what you do, truth remains to be the same: it is proved time after time that there were 757 which hit the pentagon. You should also thin where exactly your theory will change from terrorist attack to conspiracy, because it seem to me that you are little lost in this matter. 1. There isn't any evidence about explosions in the twin towers, in fact there is more evidence that there wasn't any. 2. there is no mystery what so ever about collapse of WTC7 3. there is no mystery at all about flight 93, so do this conspiracy start with attack to the pentagon? Do you understand the difference between "it has been proved" and "they say so"? Foil hat's say this and that, but they haven't prove anything since 2001. 0 evidence. That is, and that remain to be a fact.
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So if you say so, if you don't believe it doesn't happen, reality changes by your wish? Try that method with some another context, like paying taxes. I don't believe paying taxes...and look what happen. You morons should understand, that there were tons of visible debris, plane parts etc. and there is tons of pictures about them. Point is that you don't see them in the tin foil hat- web pages, because truth isn't exactly their agenda. There is tons of evidence, and then there is word of the bunch of village idiots, who say there isn't.. So who you should believe? I rather believe the evidence, than village idiots, but you can do what ever you like. No matter what you do, truth remains to be the same: it is proved time after time that there were 757 which hit the pentagon. You should also thin where exactly your theory will change from terrorist attack to conspiracy, because it seem to me that you are little lost in this matter. 1. There isn't any evidence about explosions in the twin towers, in fact there is more evidence that there wasn't any. 2. there is no mystery what so ever about collapse of WTC7 3. there is no mystery at all about flight 93, so do this conspiracy start with attack to the pentagon? Do you understand the difference between "it has been proved" and "they say so"? Foil hat's say this and that, but they haven't prove anything since 2001. 0 evidence. That is, and that remain to be a fact.
We all decide what we want to believe, i don’t want to convince you or anyone else into something because i don’t care about you or anyone else. I just stated my beliefs and i don’t think that a 757 hit Pentagon and i don’t believe that both towers were brought down just by those planes. I trust the controlled demolition version more. The end.
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We all decide what we want to believe, i don’t want to convince you or anyone else into something because i don’t care about you or anyone else. I just stated my beliefs and i don’t think that a 757 hit Pentagon and i don’t believe that both towers were brought down just by those planes. I trust the controlled demolition version more. The end.
Yes, it is your own business how and how much you want to underline your stupidity. Don't let anybody stop you to do that, ever, so you can live a life of an ignorant moron till the end. No one can stop you, if you don't let them to do so.. ;D
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We all decide what we want to believe, i don’t want to convince you or anyone else into something because i don’t care about you or anyone else. I just stated my beliefs and i don’t think that a 757 hit Pentagon and i don’t believe that both towers were brought down just by those planes. I trust the controlled demolition version more. The end.
try Occams Razor