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Released - is this enough to impeach Trump?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
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Biden is admitting to getting the prosecutor fired!
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Nothing relevant in the transcript.
No mention of a "quid pro quo" by either party.
Biden however, really puts his head in the noose.
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Lol, these people are nuts. Unfortunately most won't read it and see that there is nothing there.
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Biden is admitting to getting the prosecutor fired!
Really, if they think Trump broke the law somehow with this discussion, shouldn't Biden also be held accountable for this? Biden is the last person who should be claiming moral high ground here.
The transcript has this disclaimer: "A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place."
So it's not word by word transcription but rather notes and recollections.
There are some embarrassing typos in the transcript by the way and I'm sure Trump will be blamed for them.
For example:
"I have many Ukrainian friends, their incredible people."
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Really, if they think Trump broke the law somehow with this discussion, shouldn't Biden also be held accountable for this? Biden is the last person who should be claiming moral high ground here.
The transcript has this disclaimer: "A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place."
So it's not word by word transcription but rather notes and recollections.
There are some embarrassing typos in the transcript by the way and I'm sure Trump will be blamed for them.
For example:
"I have many Ukrainian friends, their incredible people."
Which is why the Dems are now claiming the transcript is incomplete/edited ::)
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Seems innocuous to me. If this is all they had/have, I fear it will not get them what they want. I for one would like to know if the President breaks the law. I also am wondering if anything will happen to Biden. Has he done anything illegal? If not, it’s not as if he can be removed from the office of VP andymore because it was years ago.
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Which is why the Dems are now claiming the transcript is incomplete/edited ::)
And of course they have no way of knowing or proving if something is edited. Maybe if there is an audio recording but even if that existed they could again claim it was edited. They're grasping at straws.
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Democrats
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All because some people heard something. :D
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Democrats
Yep.
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Democrats
There's no limit to the perfidy of Progressives.
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The Democrats want to impeach a President for asking about a crime committed by someone else and then make the person who committed the crime President.
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The Democrats want to impeach a President for asking about a crime committed by someone else and then make the person who committed the crime President.
Accusing somebody of what you've already done over and over is only possible with help from the press. Collusion!!! :D
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Accusing somebody of what you've already done over and over is only possible with help from the press. Collusion!!! :D
The Ukraine has openly admitted that the DNC approached them for dirt on Donald Trump to help Hillary Clinton get elected.
That is collusion.
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LÜGENPRESSE
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And of course they have no way of knowing or proving if something is edited. Maybe if there is an audio recording but even if that existed they could again claim it was edited. They're grasping at straws.
The Ukrainian President has already said that the transcript is accurate.
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The Ukrainian President has already said that the transcript is accurate.
Yep they having nothing again.
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The Ukrainian President has already said that the transcript is accurate.
It doesn't matter to people like Pelosi, Schitt or Nadler. They've failed so far so that's all they have to cling on to.
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Nothing relevant in the transcript.
No mention of a "quid pro quo" by either party.
Biden however, really puts his head in the noose.
quid pro quo was DONE when he withheld congress mandated aid and then asked a "favor" to investigate his political opponent
Biden (and his son) don't appear to have done anything wrong from everything I've read about this (and shared here)
Of course Trump will continue to lie about this just like he lied for 6 years about Obama's birth certificate until the day that lying about it no longer served his purpose and then he admitted it was all bullshit
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The Ukrainian President has already said that the transcript is accurate.
The Ukrainian President is desperate of aid and weapons from the US
He knows full well he needs to be obsequious
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quid pro quo was DONE when he withheld congress mandated aid and then asked a "favor" to investigate his political opponent
Biden (and his son) don't appear to have done anything wrong from everything I've read about this (and shared here)
Of course Trump will continue to lie about this just like he lied for 6 years about Obama's birth certificate until the day that lying about it no longer served his purpose and then he admitted it was all bullshit
Sorry hoss, you’re confused here.
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Yes
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The Ukrainian President is desperate of aid and weapons from the US
He knows full well he needs to be obsequious
Straw Man = Getbig’s Adam Schiff
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Yes
From the person who said Trump would be impeached for being a Russian spy.
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Biden thinks bragging about how he can get away with extortion is funny.
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From the person who said Trump would be impeached for being a Russian spy.
Barr saved Trump but its not going to work this time. :)
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Barr saved Trump but its not going to work this time. :)
Because there's nothing to save from...fabrication. Another dog and pony show. Dems should start writing children's books because their stories are about that level.
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Barr saved Trump but its not going to work this time. :)
Actually Mueller and his team of angry Democrats said Trump was not a Russian spy. Aren't you embarrassed? You were calling people stupid who disagreed with you about Trump being impeached over being a Russian spy.
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Will the circle jerk here continue if and when Trump loses re-election?
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Biden thinks bragging about how he can get away with extortion is funny.
The Democrats have a pattern of projecting what they actually do on other people.
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Will the circle jerk here continue if and when Trump loses re-election?
Why, you lookin to hang out?
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Will the circle jerk here continue if and when Trump loses re-election?
That's hardly a slam dunk.
The Democratic frontrunners a super far left.
I don't think they're electable.
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That's hardly a slam dunk.
The Democratic frontrunners a super far left.
I don't think they're electable.
Dems know that 2020 is not looking good. That’s why they’re pushing impeachment.
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Dems know that 2020 is not looking good. That’s why they’re pushing impeachment.
I don't believe polls all that much, but they do.
Biden was sinking the polls vs others, but showed strongest vs Trump.
So they panicked.
That's it.
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Released - is this enough to impeach Trump?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
I guess we will find out. Clinton was impeached for getting it on with Monica and then lying about it. His indiscretion, seems like nothing compared to Trump asking (and maybe bribing) a foreign leader to get dirt on his primary political opponent, which some believe violates the U.S. Constitution.
Nixon was going to be impeached because of his Watergate involvement, which also had no involvement with any foreign government.
Andrew Johnson's impeachment was a little more involved. It also rings a familiar bell, in that Trump regularly removes administrative officials he believes don't support him or his ideals. His record of firing folks is epic. This however, is not what the his impeachment inquiry is about.
The primary charge against Johnson was violation of the Tenure of Office Act, passed by Congress in March 1867, over his veto. Specifically, he had removed from office Edwin M. Stanton, the Secretary of War—whom the Act was largely designed to protect—and attempted to replace him with Brevet Major General Lorenzo Thomas. (Earlier, while the Congress was not in session, Johnson had suspended Stanton and appointed General Ulysses S. Grant as Secretary of War ad interim.)
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Why, you lookin to hang out?
Fuck yeah!
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Just imagine how many heads would be exploding if it was Donald Trump Jr. who was “working” for Burisma Holdings ?
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Biden thinks bragging about how he can get away with extortion is funny.
"Others have rightly pointed out that, in reality, Biden was not simply relaying the message pushed by the Obama administration, but that his position was supported by Ukrainian anti-corruption activists, European allies, and even groups like the International Monetary Foundation (IMF). As Tom Malinowski, former assistant secretary of state under Obama, recalled this week, “All of us working on Ukraine wanted this prosecutor gone, because he was NOT prosecuting corruption. So did the Europeans. So did the IMF. This didn't come from Joe Biden—he just delivered our message.”
What I see in the video is Biden telling how he was able to motivate Ukranian officials to remove a corrupt prosecutor. I don't think that scenario is arguable based on the available information.
What I see in the transcript (notes of the call) is a very real potential of misuse of office.
1. Aid was held up prior to the phone call. This is not disputed. What is argued is the reason why, which varies depending on what day Trump is talking
2. Aid was released after the phone call. This is not disputed
3. Trump asked the Ukranian president to do him a favor and investigate Biden, his main political opponent. This is not disputed by anyone including Trump.
There is no "If you'll do this for me I will do this for you" there rarely is, but Trump demonstrates his ignorance or lack of care by creating a situation where it certainly appears like it exists when you know aid is being held up
I certainly hope the Trump supporters on this page can see others concerns about a President that doesn't have the brains to realize placing that call and asking for that specific favor is a problem. The conflict of interest is clearly enormous to anyone with average intelligence. At least admit that.
As far as impeachment, he will likely get impeached in the House, he will likely not be convicted in the Senate. I don't really care either way. Americans voted for this shit show and it should probably play out until the next election. If we can keep Trump from giving Putin the launch codes, I think we can consider it a success. Let the voters decide what they want in 2020
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"Others have rightly pointed out that, in reality, Biden was not simply relaying the message pushed by the Obama administration, but that his position was supported by Ukrainian anti-corruption activists, European allies, and even groups like the International Monetary Foundation (IMF). As Tom Malinowski, former assistant secretary of state under Obama, recalled this week, “All of us working on Ukraine wanted this prosecutor gone, because he was NOT prosecuting corruption. So did the Europeans. So did the IMF. This didn't come from Joe Biden—he just delivered our message.”
What I see in the video is Biden telling how he was able to motivate Ukranian officials to remove a corrupt prosecutor. I don't think that scenario is arguable based on the available information.
What I see in the transcript (notes of the call) is a very real potential of misuse of office.
1. Aid was held up prior to the phone call. This is not disputed. What is argued is the reason why, which varies depending on what day Trump is talking
2. Aid was released after the phone call. This is not disputed
3. Trump asked the Ukranian president to do him a favor and investigate Biden, his main political opponent. This is not disputed by anyone including Trump.
There is no "If you'll do this for me I will do this for you" there rarely is, but Trump demonstrates his ignorance or lack of care by creating a situation where it certainly appears like it exists when you know aid is being held up
I certainly hope the Trump supporters on this page can see others concerns about a President that doesn't have the brains to realize placing that call and asking for that specific favor is a problem. The conflict of interest is clearly enormous to anyone with average intelligence. At least admit that.
As far as impeachment, he will likely get impeached in the House, he will likely not be convicted in the Senate. I don't really care either way. Americans voted for this shit show and it should probably play out until the next election. If we can keep Trump from giving Putin the launch codes, I think we can consider it a success. Let the voters decide what they want in 2020
How's the view down there?
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How's the view down there?
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This must be your self portrait.
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This must be your self portrait.
The other view would be your self portrait. ;)
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The other view would be your self portrait. ;)
True. It could be anyone's self portrait....even yours.
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Just imagine how many heads would be exploding if it was Donald Trump Jr. who was “working” for Burisma Holdings ?
Exactly.
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:o
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Exactly.
Meaning?
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Meaning?
Meaning the Dems and media would have went crazy if Trump Jr benefited from a deal exactly like this.
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To answer the OP's question. Yes. He will. However regardless of the facts, the Republican senate will not convict. Moving on....
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This UK charge will be the basis for the article(s) of impeachment.
If it's such a slam dunk, why won't Nancy take a vote?
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I don't know how the Democrats turn back now.
They have to see it though.
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I don't know how the Democrats turn back now.
They have to see it though.
Why would they? CNN tells me that its a 100% certainty he's a fake POTUS..lol
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1st you start the official impeachment inquiry, then you draw up articles of impeachment ( if found)
. The last step in the house of rep process is voting to impeach.
THEN it goes to the senate for a vote.
The senate must vote once the articles of impeachment are approved by the house.
A 2/3 majority vote in the senate is needed to remove the President
I wouldn't count on that. Dems will just change the process as needed like they've been doing.
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I wouldn't count on that. Dems will just change the process as needed like they've been doing.
Would you mind listing the processes Democrats have changed thus far? I'd really like to know what they are. Thanks.
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Dems are simply trying to keep some sort of "controversy" going until the election so they can focus on that drama instead of the non-existent platform they aren't running on.
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Dems are simply trying to keep some sort of "controversy" going until the election so they can focus on that drama instead of the non-existent platform they aren't running on.
The Ocasio-Cortez Democrat Party sure as hell don’t want to discuss the historic Trump economy
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Dems are simply trying to keep some sort of "controversy" going until the election so they can focus on that drama instead of the non-existent platform they aren't running on.
It's hard to avoid controversy with Trump. He seems to be a walking talking controversy machine. It would have been simple for Trump to call the Ukrainian president and congratulate him on his win. He could even have talked about the past corruption and the hope for continued work in striving to reduce it more. But Chaos, even a low level management coffee fetcher would know it would be inappropriate for him to ask that an investigation be opened up on his political rival.
I know this fact doesn't matter in the narrative you are presenting but it wasn't the Democrats that filed a Whistleblower claim through the proper channels following proper protocol. That it was done and came to light leaves them little choice than to launch an inquiry unless... Unless we are at that point where it really doesn't matter what Trump does. I realize about 40% of registered Republicans are already there, but they don't represent everyone. Some people still care what our President does
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It's hard to avoid controversy with Trump. He seems to be a walking talking controversy machine. It would have been simple for Trump to call the Ukrainian president and congratulate him on his win. He could even have talked about the past corruption and the hope for continued work in striving to reduce it more. But Chaos, even a low level management coffee fetcher would know it would be inappropriate for him to ask that an investigation be opened up on his political rival.
I know this fact doesn't matter in the narrative you are presenting but it wasn't the Democrats that filed a Whistleblower claim through the proper channels following proper protocol. That it was done and came to light leaves them little choice than to launch an inquiry unless... Unless we are at that point where it really doesn't matter what Trump does. I realize about 40% of registered Republicans are already there, but they don't represent everyone. Some people still care what our President does
Your comments are very logical and they will most likely be ignored or ridiculed on Getbig.
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Your comments are very logical and they will most likely be ignored or ridiculed on Getbig.
You're half right. His comments are not logical but they are being ignored. :)
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It's hard to avoid controversy with Trump. He seems to be a walking talking controversy machine. It would have been simple for Trump to call the Ukrainian president and congratulate him on his win. He could even have talked about the past corruption and the hope for continued work in striving to reduce it more. But Chaos, even a low level management coffee fetcher would know it would be inappropriate for him to ask that an investigation be opened up on his political rival.
I know this fact doesn't matter in the narrative you are presenting but it wasn't the Democrats that filed a Whistleblower claim through the proper channels following proper protocol. That it was done and came to light leaves them little choice than to launch an inquiry unless... Unless we are at that point where it really doesn't matter what Trump does. I realize about 40% of registered Republicans are already there, but they don't represent everyone. Some people still care what our President does
Yes I’m sure many do care what Presidents Say & Do.
And many previous ones have just as much to answer to as Donald
Only That seems to fly over the Heads of Democraps
Only Donald is Held to Higher Standards.
And on & on it Goes ::) ::)
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It's hard to avoid controversy with Trump. He seems to be a walking talking controversy machine. It would have been simple for Trump to call the Ukrainian president and congratulate him on his win. He could even have talked about the past corruption and the hope for continued work in striving to reduce it more. But Chaos, even a low level management coffee fetcher would know it would be inappropriate for him to ask that an investigation be opened up on his political rival.
I know this fact doesn't matter in the narrative you are presenting but it wasn't the Democrats that filed a Whistleblower claim through the proper channels following proper protocol. That it was done and came to light leaves them little choice than to launch an inquiry unless... Unless we are at that point where it really doesn't matter what Trump does. I realize about 40% of registered Republicans are already there, but they don't represent everyone. Some people still care what our President does
It most definitely was not.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/us/politics/adam-schiff-whistleblower.html
The whistle-blower alerted a House Intel Committee staffer to the outlines of his accusations against Trump before filing his complaint, giving Schiff an early clue to what the administration was initially blocking the IG from delivering to Congress
WASHINGTON — The Democratic head of the House Intelligence Committee, Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, learned about the outlines of a C.I.A. officer’s concerns that President Trump had abused his power days before the officer filed a whistle-blower complaint, according to a spokesman and current and former American officials.
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Schiff for brains lied his ass off....again. Hahahahahaha
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Schiff for brains lied his ass off....again. Hahahahahaha
The "whistleblower" lied too.
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It's hard to avoid controversy with Trump.
Is it? Or is it mainstream medias doing that creates the "controversy" every time around Trump?
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Is it? Or is it mainstream medias doing that creates the "controversy" every time around Trump?
Media-created-pseudo-events.
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Fake impeachment hoax.
Adam Schiff lying to the country.
Nancy Pelosi part of the contrived hoax.
The MSM complicit in the lies.
Just another day in the Democrat Party stupidity and hypocrisy.
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You're half right. His comments are not logical but they are being ignored. :)
lol
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The moment Biden and Son committed these crimes was the moment he disqualified himself as a political rival. Trump wasn't digging up dirt on a viable opponent, he was investigating a criminal.
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The real crime would be standing by and allowing a criminal like Biden to remain unchecked.
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You're half right. His comments are not logical but they are being ignored. :)
Prime must be psychic.
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Is it? Or is it mainstream medias doing that creates the "controversy" every time around Trump?
No, it is...
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TDS takes on a new meaning today. Trump is tweeting more obsessively than ever before...like every couple of minutes. His tweets are all over the place, jumping from one topic to another. His meltdown suggests he is deranged.
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TDS takes on a new meaning today. Trump is tweeting more obsessively than ever before...like every couple of minutes. His tweets are all over the place, jumping from one topic to another. His meltdown suggests he is deranged.
Hmmmm
I see similarities here
Pot calling Kettle
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Hmmmm
I see similarities here
Pot calling Kettle
;D
Pot calling Kettle....you're post count for today is double what mine is. ;) But, you may be right about my posts covering a wider array of topics.
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Pot calling Kettle....you're post count for today is double what mine is. ;) But, you may be right about my posts covering a wider array of topics.
Is it !!
Well Whoopee Do.
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TDS takes on a new meaning today. Trump is tweeting more obsessively than ever before...like every couple of minutes. His tweets are all over the place, jumping from one topic to another. His meltdown suggests he is deranged.
The "Trump is mentally unfit" outrage is like a year old already. This week's outrage is the fake whistleblower complaint. Try and keep up. :)
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It’s obvious this bullshit case has fallen apart. Liberals on Twitter are melting down in large numbers. Rob Reiner put out another hysterical, as in losing his mind, tweet.
“The President of the United States has just Impeached himself. He publicly admitted to violating the Constitution & his Oath of Office. There is no rationale for any member of Congress not to Impeach & remove this lying Cancer on our Democracy.”
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Actually Mueller and his team of angry Democrats said Trump was not a Russian spy. Aren't you embarrassed? You were calling people stupid who disagreed with you about Trump being impeached over being a Russian spy.
you provide a lot of cover.
If this was Obama withholding aid to a country on the condition of investigating a political rival, you would hold the impeachment hearings yourself.... but.... yeah... typical.
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you provide a lot of cover.
If this was Obama withholding aid to a country on the condition of investigating a political rival, you would hold the impeachment hearings yourself.... but.... yeah... typical.
That was what Biden said he did firing the prosecutor in the clip.
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The blind loyalty towards Trump is the core of the problem.
While supporting a leader is normal, the ball licking of Trump is disturbing to me.
If he farts, his supporters will refuse to say it stinks.
Nope, they will say he's making America smell great again.
LOL, Trump can fart in their face and they shove their collective noses up his crack. ;D
It’s more like you buy into every bullshit narrative that the media trots out and can’t handle it when it blows up in your faces.
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The blind loyalty towards Trump is the core of the problem.
While supporting a leader is normal, the ball licking of Trump is disturbing to me.
If he farts, his supporters will refuse to say it stinks.
Nope, they will say he's making America smell great again.
LOL, Trump can fart in their face and they shove their collective noses up his crack. ;D
No fagget - the thing doughboy D is accusing Trump of Biden actually bragged of on tape. Now go get your FNG shine box
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The blind loyalty towards Trump is the core of the problem.
While supporting a leader is normal, the ball licking of Trump is disturbing to me.
If he farts, his supporters will refuse to say it stinks.
Nope, they will say he's making America smell great again.
LOL, Trump can fart in their face and they shove their collective noses up his crack. ;D
There is absolutely zero difference between his base, and his anti-base. Same exact fucking thing.
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The blind loyalty towards Trump is the core of the problem.
While supporting a leader is normal, the ball licking of Trump is disturbing to me.
If he farts, his supporters will refuse to say it stinks.
Nope, they will say he's making America smell great again.
LOL, Trump can fart in their face and they shove their collective noses up his crack. ;D
You can call it blind loyalty if you want but it comes down to being able to decipher right from wrong which the left are entirely incapable of doing
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you provide a lot of cover.
If this was Obama withholding aid to a country on the condition of investigating a political rival, you would hold the impeachment hearings yourself.... but.... yeah... typical.
Cover for what?
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Dear Coach ( Joe),
I realize that you and most here think I'm dumb and naïve when it comes to politics.
I understand and accept that when I post in this forum.
I do gain some insight into how Trump supporters think by interacting on here.
Believe it or not, I don't dismiss it as crazy , despite NOT agreeing with most Trumpers.
To me the smart thing to is scout and understand your rival. ;)
Howard, You're a professor, I don't think you're dumb I think you refuse to see both sides of the coin when it comes to information. Howard, today we hit a 50 year UE low, is this not a good thing? Blacks, Hispanics UE is at an all-time high. Here's the left's explanation for this? "Thanks Obama" but when called out NO ONE and I mean NO ONE can explain this, why can't they explain this? because it's economically impossible.
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The "Trump is mentally unfit" outrage is like a year old already. This week's outrage is the fake whistleblower complaint. Try and keep up. :)
Who gives a shit about what's current or not. Whether it is a year ago or right now. Trump is wacko. The impeachment inquiry has him pissing his pants.
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You can call it blind loyalty if you want but it comes down to being able to decipher right from wrong which the left are entirely incapable of doing
Hmmm, it appears Trump is the one having trouble deciphering right from wrong.
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Who gives a shit about what's current or not. Whether it is a year ago or right now. Trump is wacko. The impeachment inquiry has him pissing his pants.
I do. I'm trying to keep track of the liberal outrage of the week and you are mucking it up. >:(
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Howard, You're a professor, I don't think you're dumb I think you refuse to see both sides of the coin when it comes to information. Howard, today we hit a 50 year UE low, is this not a good thing? Blacks, Hispanics UE is at an all-time high. Here's the left's explanation for this? "Thanks Obama" but when called out NO ONE and I mean NO ONE can explain this, why can't they explain this? because it's economically impossible.
I'm not up on all the current acronyms, can you tell me what UE means? Thanks. Never mind, I just figured it out UE = unemployment. :-[
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I do. I'm trying to keep track of the liberal outrage of the week and you are mucking it up. >:(
I think it is more shock than outrage. Trump giving the House and the American people the finger by publically asking for China's help in getting dirt on the Biden's during a press briefing yesterday on the White House lawn, tops all.
President Donald Trump says he would keep his request for China to investigate Joe Biden separate from high-stakes trade talks with Beijing.
China is the second foreign government, along with Ukraine, that Trump has asked to investigate the Biden family amid concerns about the president abusing his power to influence the 2020 election.
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I think it is more shock than outrage. Trump giving the House and the American people the finger by publically asking for China's help in getting dirt on the Biden's during a press briefing yesterday on the White House lawn, tops all.
President Donald Trump says he would keep his request for China to investigate Joe Biden separate from high-stakes trade talks with Beijing.
China is the second foreign government, along with Ukraine, that Trump has asked to investigate the Biden family amid concerns about the president abusing his power to influence the 2020 election.
And by "dirt" you mean investigating corruption.
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And by "dirt" you mean investigating corruption.
Trump doesn't give a shit about corruption. How could he? It would be absolutely hypocritical. His sole purpose is to discredit his opponent.
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Trump doesn't give a shit about corruption. How could he? It would be absolutely hypocritical. His sole purpose is to discredit his opponent.
Wrong.
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And by "dirt" you mean investigating corruption.
Don't we call that "opposition reseach" these days? I remember that's what they called tasking a former intelligence officer of a foreign nation to produce a dossier with all sorts of allegations.
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Don't we call that "opposition reseach" these days? I remember that's what they called tasking a former intelligence officer of a foreign nation to produce a dossier with all sorts of allegations.
I don't think this was opposition research. Asking for someone to investigate corruption is part of the executive's job IMO.
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I don't think this was opposition research. Asking for someone to investigate corruption is part of the executive's job IMO.
That was in reference to “dirt”.
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That was in reference to “dirt”.
Yeah I know. I was correcting Prime's use of the word "dirt." You're right that "dirt" is generally opposition research. I'm saying this isn't trying to get dirt/opposition research. It's investigating corruption. Not the same IMO.
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Trump doesn't give a shit about corruption. How could he? It would be absolutely hypocritical. His sole purpose is to discredit his opponent.
Then why do Democrats keep lying and making up fake shit about President Donald Trump and his supporters? Is it to falsely discredit their Republican opponents?
Adam Schiff, Jussie Smollett, Jerry Nadler, Dr Christine Blasey Ford, Joy Reid, Nathan Phillips, Joy Behar, Edawn Coughtman, Rick Wilson, Erica Thomas, IIhan Omar, Cristina King Miranda, Amari Allen, Lizzie Warren, Robin Pogrebin, Kate Kelly, Kamala Harris, David Smith III, Queens College hoax, Johnathan Perkins, Adwoa Lewis, Broderick Burse, Andrew McClinton, Michael Ron, David Kadar, Air Force Academy Prep cadet, Dauntarius Williams, Alexis Briggs, Bass, Nathan Stang, Eddie Curlin, Drake University hoax, Juan Thompson, Asha Burwell, Yasmin Seweid, University of Louisiana-Lafayette hoax, Ariel Agudio, San Jose University hoax, Azhar Hussain, James Polite, St Olaf College hoax, Beloit College hoax, Kansas State University hoax, countless wait staff and notes on receipts, etc, etc
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Hmmm, it appears Trump is the one having trouble deciphering right from wrong.
Give us an example
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Then why do Democrats keep lying and making up fake shit about President Donald Trump and his supporters? Is it to falsely discredit their Republican opponents?
Adam Schiff, Jussie Smollett, Jerry Nadler, Dr Christine Blasey Ford, Joy Reid, Nathan Phillips, Joy Behar, Edawn Coughtman, Rick Wilson, Erica Thomas, IIhan Omar, Cristina King Miranda, Amari Allen, Lizzie Warren, Robin Pogrebin, Kate Kelly, Kamala Harris, David Smith III, Queens College hoax, Johnathan Perkins, Adwoa Lewis, Broderick Burse, Andrew McClinton, Michael Ron, David Kadar, Air Force Academy Prep cadet, Dauntarius Williams, Alexis Briggs, Bass, Nathan Stang, Eddie Curlin, Drake University hoax, Juan Thompson, Asha Burwell, Yasmin Seweid, University of Louisiana-Lafayette hoax, Ariel Agudio, San Jose University hoax, Azhar Hussain, James Polite, St Olaf College hoax, Beloit College hoax, Kansas State University hoax, countless wait staff and notes on receipts, etc, etc
None of that will Deter Prime & His Cohorts
He’ll just ignore that little lot & Carry on with his FuckWittery Nonsense
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I don't think this was opposition research. Asking for someone to investigate corruption is part of the executive's job IMO.
So, this is how you think Trump should be spending his time? Chatting it up with foreign leaders to find out what they may have on his political opponents? Aren't there people, like the CIA, who are trained to investigate corruption who Tump should be relying on? And let's not ignore the quid pro quo possibilities. Don't be so naive.
Were you or are you also a birther like Trump?
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So, this is how you think Trump should be spending his time? Chatting it up with foreign leaders to find out what they may have on his political opponents? Aren't there people, like the CIA, who are trained to investigate corruption who Tump should be relying on? And let's not ignore the quid pro quo possibilities. Don't be so naive.
Were you or are you also a birther like Trump?
Now that's rich. The person who sticks his head in the sand, repeatedly, calls me naive. lol
You apparently expect corruption to go unchecked. In fact, you refused to even watch Biden's own words, all 90 seconds of them, where he directly admits to corruption.
No I wasn't a birther. That was a stupid conspiracy theory. Just like the Russia conspiracy theory was stupid. But you bought it. lol
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And by "dirt" you mean investigating corruption.
This is the cover I’m referring to. Cmon man you used to be able to at least call a spade a spade. You’ve gone all Soul and Coach on us. You know the evidence that he actually admitted to is wrong in its face and resembles banana republic administrations. At least admit that this looks horrible. Don’t try to act like everything is on the up and up
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This is the cover I’m referring to. Cmon man you used to be able to at least call a spade a spade. You’ve gone all Soul and Coach on us. You know the evidence that he actually admitted to is wrong in its face and resembles banana republic administrations. At least admit that this looks horrible. Don’t try to act like everything is on the up and up
Biden is on tape admitting to holding back money unless they fired the prosecutor
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Biden is on tape admitting to holding back money unless they fired the prosecutor
CNN or MSNBC didn’t tell him that
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This is the cover I’m referring to. Cmon man you used to be able to at least call a spade a spade. You’ve gone all Soul and Coach on us. You know the evidence that he actually admitted to is wrong in its face and resembles banana republic administrations. At least admit that this looks horrible. Don’t try to act like everything is on the up and up
The evidence you are referring to is the transcript of his phone call with the President of Ukraine. There is absolutely nothing in that transcript that shows evidence of a crime.
I don't think it looks horrible. What looks horrible is the repeated attempts to set this man up. You should be very concerned about the massive abuses of power we have seen the past couple years, all in an attempt to try and undo the 2016 election. And you know why they are manufacturing this stuff? Because they cannot win on the issues. They are afraid of simply putting out their ideas and having a vote based on policy.
Here is one of the rare moments of truth, where Congressman Green admitted they are trying to impeach Trump because they cannot beat him on the issues:
Rep. Al Green, D-Texas, one of the first lawmakers who called for President Trump's impeachment, expressed his fears on Saturday that if Democrats don't pursue his ousting, Trump "will get reelected."
Green was asked on MSNBC about how unpopular impeachment was among voters. MSNBC correspondent Phillip Mena pressed him with recent polling numbers from Quinnipiac showing 66 percent of voters were against impeachment -- including 38 percent of Democrats and 70 percent of independents.
"Are you concerned that impeachment talk may actually help the president's reelection?" Mena asked.
"I'm concerned that if we don't impeach the president, he will get reelected," Green responded. "If we don't impeach him, he will say that he has been vindicated, he will say the Democrats had an overwhelming majority in the House and they didn't take up impeachment. he will say that we had a constitutional duty to do it if it was there and we didn't. He will say that he has been vindicated."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-al-green-trump-elected-not-impeached
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Trump will be impeached/removed or the United States will cease to exist as a country.
He is a traitor. Anyone who supports him is a traitor.
There is no gray area on this.
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Trump will be impeached/removed or the United States will cease to exist as a country.
He is a traitor. Anyone who supports him is a traitor.
There is no gray area on this.
This seems a bit extreme, but no more extreme than what the other side says.
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https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1181648238417453056
"The IC inspector general told lawmakers that the Trump-Ukraine whistleblower had a working relationship with one of the current 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, according to three sources with knowledge of the testimony."
It goes on.....
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Trump will be impeached/removed or the United States will cease to exist as a country.
He is a traitor. Anyone who supports him is a traitor.
There is no gray area on this.
Welcome to the team!
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https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1181648238417453056
"The IC inspector general told lawmakers that the Trump-Ukraine whistleblower had a working relationship with one of the current 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, according to three sources with knowledge of the testimony."
It goes on.....
Not surprised.
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Whistleblower #1 = John Brennan
Whistleblower #2 = James Clapper
President Donald Trump is going to win 47-48 states in 2020 !
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Whistleblower #1 = John Brennan
Whistleblower #2 = James Clapper
President Donald Trump is going to win 47-48 states in 2020 !
Well he's not winning Hawaii. lol
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Well he's not winning Hawaii. lol
Probably doesn’t win Illinois or California either.
But definitely the other 47 states.
(Barry Sotero...FYI, there are still only 50 states)
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Probably doesn’t win Illinois or California either.
But definitely the other 47 states.
(Barry Sotero...FYI, there are still only 50 states)
You're right, he's got New York and New Jersey locked down.
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Probably doesn’t win Illinois or California either.
But definitely the other 47 states.
(Barry Sotero...FYI, there are still only 50 states)
No way does he win California either.
But seriously, even though it's still early, he is sailing towards reelection, which is why Democrats are in a panic trying to take him down.
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Impeaching Trump Voters
It’s revenge for 2016, and nervousness about Democratic prospects for 2020.
For the sake of argument, let’s stipulate that Donald Trump is everything Democrats say he is: a president
who abuses his national-security powers by siccing a foreign government on his political rival, a racist/bigot/nativist
constantly using “dog whistles” to stoke division, a man uniquely unfit to sit in the Oval Office.
Assume Mr. Trump is all these things. With an election scarcely a year away, the question then becomes:
Why impeach him now? Surely a president as abominable as this ought to be easy to defeat at the polls.
Mr. Trump would appear to be especially vulnerable, given that last time he lost the national popular vote
and won several battleground states by razor-thin margins.
The answer speaks as much to what Democrats think of Trump voters—they don’t trust them—as it does
to what they think of Mr. Trump. In this sense, the push for impeachment now may reflect a lack of Democratic
confidence that they can persuade enough of the voters who went for Mr. Trump last time to give them the
margins they need for victory come November 2020.
The lack of confidence extends to doubts about each of their leading candidates. It’s no secret that many
Democrats worry Joe Biden isn’t up to the job of taking on Mr. Trump. So long as Ukraine is in the news,
stories about Hunter Biden’s sweetheart deal with a Ukrainian gas company will be in the news as well.
Other Democrats, meanwhile, worry that Elizabeth Warren is too far left to win. And Bernie Sanders’s heart
attack probably spells the end of any chance he might have had at the nomination.
A year ago, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler told Roll Call that before using impeachment
to overturn the results of the last election, Democrats would have to answer this question: “Do you think that
the case is so stark, that the offenses are so terrible and the proof so clear, that once you’ve laid it all
out you will have convinced an appreciable fraction of the people who voted for Trump, who like him, that
you had no choice? That you had to do it?”
We are nowhere close to meeting the Nadler standard. True, public support for impeachment is up since news of
Mr. Trump’s phone conversation with his Ukrainian counterpart broke. A FiveThirtyEight.com average of all the
impeachment polls finds 46.5% for and 44.8% against. More telling is the divide the numbers show when they
are broken down by party. While 79.1% of Democrats want impeachment, the number drops to 41.3% for independents
and only 12.5% for Republicans.
So why the rush? Maybe because in addition to concerns about 2020, there’s an itch to punish Trump voters for
what they did in 2016. In other words, it isn’t enough that Mr. Trump be defeated. His whole presidency must be
delegitimized—along with the people who voted him in.
In 2016 Hillary Clinton famously expressed this contempt for Trump voters when she told wealthy donors at a
Manhattan fundraiser “you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables.”
She went on. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it. And unfortunately there
are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
In “Chasing Hillary: Ten Years, Two Presidential Campaigns, and One Intact Glass Ceiling,” reporter Amy Chozick
confirms this was no one-off gaffe. Mrs. Clinton, she reports, used the line repeatedly to Democratic audiences she
knew would appreciate the sentiment.
“The Deplorables always got a laugh, over living-room chats in the Hamptons, at dinner parties under the stars on
Martha’s Vineyard, over passed hors d’oeuvres in Beverly Hills, and during sunset cocktails in Silicon Valley,” wrote
Ms. Chozick. The unspoken corollary is that only a morally debased citizenry could have freely chosen Mr. Trump over
Mrs. Clinton.
Today few publicly call Trump voters “deplorable.” But the assumption remains. Remember that high-school kid from
Covington, Ky., who was accosted by a Native American activist? Simply because he was wearing a “Make America
Great Again” hat, the 16-year-old was instantly transformed into the face of white supremacy by a good part of the
American media.
When the facts finally emerged, of course, they told a much different story. But what happened to that Covington
student could not have happened without many in positions of influence unthinkingly sharing the view that people
who wear MAGA hats are what Mrs. Clinton says they are. Trump voters get this, while it doesn’t seem to occur to
Democrats that the president’s supporters stick with him in part because they appreciate that the Trump hatred is
directed at them as well.
In a poem written after East German workers rose up against their communist overlords in 1953, the playwright
Bertolt Brecht suggested that if the government was dissatisfied with the lack of appreciation from its countrymen,
perhaps it ought to “dissolve the people and elect another.” He meant it as irony. Some of those pushing hardest for
impeachment appear to be taking it more literally.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/impeaching-trump-voters-11570487810?shareToken=st33eff57c00d646adb521790ac0abf122
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Yup - libqueers still can't get over 2016
Impeaching Trump Voters
It’s revenge for 2016, and nervousness about Democratic prospects for 2020.
For the sake of argument, let’s stipulate that Donald Trump is everything Democrats say he is: a president
who abuses his national-security powers by siccing a foreign government on his political rival, a racist/bigot/nativist
constantly using “dog whistles” to stoke division, a man uniquely unfit to sit in the Oval Office.
Assume Mr. Trump is all these things. With an election scarcely a year away, the question then becomes:
Why impeach him now? Surely a president as abominable as this ought to be easy to defeat at the polls.
Mr. Trump would appear to be especially vulnerable, given that last time he lost the national popular vote
and won several battleground states by razor-thin margins.
The answer speaks as much to what Democrats think of Trump voters—they don’t trust them—as it does
to what they think of Mr. Trump. In this sense, the push for impeachment now may reflect a lack of Democratic
confidence that they can persuade enough of the voters who went for Mr. Trump last time to give them the
margins they need for victory come November 2020.
The lack of confidence extends to doubts about each of their leading candidates. It’s no secret that many
Democrats worry Joe Biden isn’t up to the job of taking on Mr. Trump. So long as Ukraine is in the news,
stories about Hunter Biden’s sweetheart deal with a Ukrainian gas company will be in the news as well.
Other Democrats, meanwhile, worry that Elizabeth Warren is too far left to win. And Bernie Sanders’s heart
attack probably spells the end of any chance he might have had at the nomination.
A year ago, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler told Roll Call that before using impeachment
to overturn the results of the last election, Democrats would have to answer this question: “Do you think that
the case is so stark, that the offenses are so terrible and the proof so clear, that once you’ve laid it all
out you will have convinced an appreciable fraction of the people who voted for Trump, who like him, that
you had no choice? That you had to do it?”
We are nowhere close to meeting the Nadler standard. True, public support for impeachment is up since news of
Mr. Trump’s phone conversation with his Ukrainian counterpart broke. A FiveThirtyEight.com average of all the
impeachment polls finds 46.5% for and 44.8% against. More telling is the divide the numbers show when they
are broken down by party. While 79.1% of Democrats want impeachment, the number drops to 41.3% for independents
and only 12.5% for Republicans.
So why the rush? Maybe because in addition to concerns about 2020, there’s an itch to punish Trump voters for
what they did in 2016. In other words, it isn’t enough that Mr. Trump be defeated. His whole presidency must be
delegitimized—along with the people who voted him in.
In 2016 Hillary Clinton famously expressed this contempt for Trump voters when she told wealthy donors at a
Manhattan fundraiser “you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables.”
She went on. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it. And unfortunately there
are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
In “Chasing Hillary: Ten Years, Two Presidential Campaigns, and One Intact Glass Ceiling,” reporter Amy Chozick
confirms this was no one-off gaffe. Mrs. Clinton, she reports, used the line repeatedly to Democratic audiences she
knew would appreciate the sentiment.
“The Deplorables always got a laugh, over living-room chats in the Hamptons, at dinner parties under the stars on
Martha’s Vineyard, over passed hors d’oeuvres in Beverly Hills, and during sunset cocktails in Silicon Valley,” wrote
Ms. Chozick. The unspoken corollary is that only a morally debased citizenry could have freely chosen Mr. Trump over
Mrs. Clinton.
Today few publicly call Trump voters “deplorable.” But the assumption remains. Remember that high-school kid from
Covington, Ky., who was accosted by a Native American activist? Simply because he was wearing a “Make America
Great Again” hat, the 16-year-old was instantly transformed into the face of white supremacy by a good part of the
American media.
When the facts finally emerged, of course, they told a much different story. But what happened to that Covington
student could not have happened without many in positions of influence unthinkingly sharing the view that people
who wear MAGA hats are what Mrs. Clinton says they are. Trump voters get this, while it doesn’t seem to occur to
Democrats that the president’s supporters stick with him in part because they appreciate that the Trump hatred is
directed at them as well.
In a poem written after East German workers rose up against their communist overlords in 1953, the playwright
Bertolt Brecht suggested that if the government was dissatisfied with the lack of appreciation from its countrymen,
perhaps it ought to “dissolve the people and elect another.” He meant it as irony. Some of those pushing hardest for
impeachment appear to be taking it more literally.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/impeaching-trump-voters-11570487810?shareToken=st33eff57c00d646adb521790ac0abf122
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Trump will be impeached/removed or the United States will cease to exist as a country.
He is a traitor. Anyone who supports him is a traitor.
There is no gray area on this.
Asian American unemployment is at an all time low.... get a fuckin job bitch
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Yup - libqueers still can't get over 2016
Couple that with the candidates that are leading, outside of Biden, are all far left and unelectable.
Pure panic.
Think about it - millions of dollars and a two year thorough investigation were not enough to start an impeachment inquiry, but second hand knowledge of a phone call was?
LOL.
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Couple that with the candidates that are leading, outside of Biden, are all far left and unelectable.
Pure panic.
Think about it - millions of dollars and a two year thorough investigation were not enough to start an impeachment inquiry, but second hand knowledge of a phone call was?
LOL.
New information out today. The Ukraine was already investigating the Bidens for months before the phone call with President Trump.
So there goes the quid pro quo hoax.
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New information out today. The Ukraine was already investigating the Bidens for months before the phone call with President Trump.
So there goes the quid pro quo hoax.
haaa haaa Fake News debunked yet again...next hoax for Howard and Libatrds in progress.. ;)
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Burisma Paid Joe Biden $900,000 for Lobbying – Ukrainian MP
KYIV. Oct 9 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.
Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, "describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr." at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.
"This was the transfer of Burisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services," Derkach said.
He also publicized sums that were transferred to Burisma Group representatives, in particular Hunter Biden, a son of the former U.S. vice president.
"Using political and economic levelers of influencing Ukrainian authorities and manipulating the issue of providing financial aid to Ukraine, Joe Biden actively assisted closing criminal cases into the activity of former Ukrainian Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, who is the founder and owner of Burisma Group," he said.
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936.html
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Burisma Paid Joe Biden $900,000 for Lobbying – Ukrainian MP
KYIV. Oct 9 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.
Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, "describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr." at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.
"This was the transfer of Burisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services," Derkach said.
He also publicized sums that were transferred to Burisma Group representatives, in particular Hunter Biden, a son of the former U.S. vice president.
"Using political and economic levelers of influencing Ukrainian authorities and manipulating the issue of providing financial aid to Ukraine, Joe Biden actively assisted closing criminal cases into the activity of former Ukrainian Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, who is the founder and owner of Burisma Group," he said.
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936.html
Haha. Wow. All but guarantees Hillary back in the running. No way will she see Warren have a chance over her..
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Burisma Paid Joe Biden $900,000 for Lobbying – Ukrainian MP
KYIV. Oct 9 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.
Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, "describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr." at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.
"This was the transfer of Burisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services," Derkach said.
He also publicized sums that were transferred to Burisma Group representatives, in particular Hunter Biden, a son of the former U.S. vice president.
"Using political and economic levelers of influencing Ukrainian authorities and manipulating the issue of providing financial aid to Ukraine, Joe Biden actively assisted closing criminal cases into the activity of former Ukrainian Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, who is the founder and owner of Burisma Group," he said.
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936.html
Not on CNN or MSNBC therefore never happened, therefore Biden 2020!!
Pedo for Potus 2020!
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"Charles McCullough, an attorney now representing the whistleblowers with Andrew Bakaj, a former staffer for Sens. Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton, was previously the inspector general of the intelligence community (ICIG) at the height of the Clinton email scandal. Now a partner at the Compass Rose Legal Group, McCullough's professional biography on the law firm's website notes that he reported directly to Clapper as ICIG and "oversaw intelligence officers responsible for audits, inspections, investigations."
The Democrats really suck at this whole “frame Trump” thing....
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Burisma Paid Joe Biden $900,000 for Lobbying – Ukrainian MP
KYIV. Oct 9 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.
Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, "describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr." at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.
"This was the transfer of Burisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services," Derkach said.
He also publicized sums that were transferred to Burisma Group representatives, in particular Hunter Biden, a son of the former U.S. vice president.
"Using political and economic levelers of influencing Ukrainian authorities and manipulating the issue of providing financial aid to Ukraine, Joe Biden actively assisted closing criminal cases into the activity of former Ukrainian Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, who is the founder and owner of Burisma Group," he said.
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936.html
Does not pass the smell test.
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https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/455228-chris-wrays-fbi-continues-to-cover-for-team-comeys-russia-shenanigans
Oooops
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https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/455228-chris-wrays-fbi-continues-to-cover-for-team-comeys-russia-shenanigans
Oooops
Chris Wray's FBI continues to cover for Team Comey's Russia shenanigans
BY JOHN SOLOMON — 07/30/19 09:30 AM EDT
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https://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-officials-deemed-withholding-of-aid-to-ukraine-was-illegal-090046566.html
But only when Trump does it?
I'm confused ???
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https://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-officials-deemed-withholding-of-aid-to-ukraine-was-illegal-090046566.html
But only when Trump does it?
I'm confused ???
Regardless of who is accused of doing this, it must be proved. Does this help you with your confusion?
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It is about to come out that Obama and Hillary funneled bribes through Belarus and back into the Clinton Foundation based off an Obama Executive Order.
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It is about to come out that Obama and Hillary funneled bribes through Belarus and back into the Clinton Foundation based off an Obama Executive Order.
They even got Al Capone for tax fraud. Maybe....just maybe Clinton foundation and Biden offshore accounts can be audited.
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Regardless of who is accused of doing this, it must be proved. Does this help you with your confusion?
And yet you dummycrats have already convicted Trump of doing what Biden is on tape admitting to doing.
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And yet you dummycrats have already convicted Trump of doing what Biden is on tape admitting to doing.
are you really that dense? The investigation into Hunter was dormant a year. Biden was speaking for an administration AND allies that all felt this prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. It's the exact opposite of what you think. If he HAD been investigating Hunter and Biden moved on his own to have him fired THEN you would have the equivalent of what Trump did with the Ukranian president. But you dont and you either know that and don't care or you are ignorant of the facts of the incident.
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are you really that dense? The investigation into Hunter was dormant a year. Biden was speaking for an administration AND allies that all felt this prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. It's the exact opposite of what you think. If he HAD been investigating Hunter and Biden moved on his own to have him fired THEN you would have the equivalent of what Trump did with the Ukranian president. But you dont and you either know that and don't care or you are ignorant of the facts of the incident.
You are wasting your time. No matter when proof slaps them in their hysterical faces or what transpires, if it doesn't jive with the far right's conspiracy theories or wrong-headed beliefs, they will reject it.
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You are wasting your time. No matter when proof slaps them in their hysterical faces or what transpires, if it doesn't jive with the far right's conspiracy theories or wrong-headed beliefs, they will reject it.
The proof is an anonymous individual who has secondhand information virtually all of which has been debunked. It’s fucking shady.
All of you who are supporting this shit, how would you like it if you were the accused under these conditions?
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The proof is an anonymous individual who has secondhand information virtually all of which has been debunked. It’s fucking shady.
All of you who are supporting this shit, how would you like it if you were the accused under these conditions?
I'd never put myself in a position to be accused under these conditions. I guess I probably wouldn't like it whether I was guilty or innocent. But, I will never know.
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The proof is an anonymous individual who has secondhand information virtually all of which has been debunked. It’s fucking shady.
All of you who are supporting this shit, how would you like it if you were the accused under these conditions?
Meanwhile, Kamala Harris has come up with a new campaign slogan:
“Donald Trump won’t give my brown-eye the Willie Brown treatment.”
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Meanwhile, Kamala Harris has come up with a new campaign slogan:
“Donald Trump won’t give my brown-eye the Willie Brown treatment.”
this is retarded.. go back, think on it, and make a better post.
trash ass post.
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are you really that dense? The investigation into Hunter was dormant a year. Biden was speaking for an administration AND allies that all felt this prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. It's the exact opposite of what you think. If he HAD been investigating Hunter and Biden moved on his own to have him fired THEN you would have the equivalent of what Trump did with the Ukranian president. But you dont and you either know that and don't care or you are ignorant of the facts of the incident.
Yes, he is.
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this is retarded.. go back, think on it, and make a better post.
trash ass post.
You do know she was sleeping with Willie Brown and he then started her public service career?
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You do know she was sleeping with Willie Brown and he then started her public service career?
Can’t blame him. I’d hit it too if she was whoring around.
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You do know she was sleeping with Willie Brown and he then started her public service career?
It's interesting, if you starting typing on google "Kamala Harris" and then continue typing "will" it only shows 'william barr" and "willie smith"... It has no suggestions or autocomplete for "willie brown"...
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You do know she was sleeping with Willie Brown and he then started her public service career?
Terrible, just terrible.
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this is retarded.. go back, think on it, and make a better post.
trash ass post.
That post is 100% correct.
And Willie Brown was a married man while he was giving Kamala Harris the anal cream pie.
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It's interesting, if you starting typing on google "Kamala Harris" and then continue typing "will" it only shows 'william barr" and "willie smith"... It has no suggestions or autocomplete for "willie brown"...
Of course. Google running cover for her.
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Terrible, just terrible.
Yep. Slept her way to the top.
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Of course. Google running cover for her.
LOL!
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are you really that dense? The investigation into Hunter was dormant a year. Biden was speaking for an administration AND allies that all felt this prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. It's the exact opposite of what you think. If he HAD been investigating Hunter and Biden moved on his own to have him fired THEN you would have the equivalent of what Trump did with the Ukranian president. But you dont and you either know that and don't care or you are ignorant of the facts of the incident.
Why was the investigation dormant? You're a typical cnn repeater talking head.
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Of course. Google running cover for her.
Yet another corrupted company
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Yep. Slept her way to the top.
She should recuse herself. :)
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https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/
"Hunter Biden and his Ukrainian gas firm colleagues had multiple contacts with the Obama State Department during the 2016 election cycle, including one just a month before Vice President Joe Biden forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating his son’s company for corruption, newly released memos show.
During that February 2016 contact, a U.S. representative for Burisma Holdings sought a meeting with Undersecretary of State Catherine A. Novelli to discuss ending the corruption allegations against the Ukrainian firm where Hunter Biden worked as a board member, according to memos obtained under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. (I filed that suit this summer with the help of the public interest law firm the Southeastern Legal Foundation.)
Just three weeks before Burisma’s overture to State, Ukrainian authorities raided the home of the oligarch who owned the gas firm and employed Hunter Biden, a signal the long-running corruption probe was escalating in the middle of the U.S. presidential election.
Hunter Biden’s name, in fact, was specifically invoked by the Burisma representative as a reason the State Department should help, according to a series of email exchanges among U.S. officials trying to arrange the meeting. The subject line for the email exchanges read simply “Burisma.”
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Terrible, just terrible.
That post is 100% correct.
And Willie Brown was a married man while he was giving Kamala Harris the anal cream pie.
Prime would you be so Forgiving & Accepting if it Was Donald in a Similar type situation?
Her & Pocahontas should be Kicked out of any political party Regardless.
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are you really that dense? The investigation into Hunter was dormant a year. Biden was speaking for an administration AND allies that all felt this prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. It's the exact opposite of what you think. If he HAD been investigating Hunter and Biden moved on his own to have him fired THEN you would have the equivalent of what Trump did with the Ukranian president. But you dont and you either know that and don't care or you are ignorant of the facts of the incident.
Wow.....this post did not age well.
Whoever posted that has to feel REALLY stupid about now.
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It's interesting, if you starting typing on google "Kamala Harris" and then continue typing "will" it only shows 'william barr" and "willie smith"... It has no suggestions or autocomplete for "willie brown"...
Ha ha - Just How corrrupt is Google !!
You’ve got to type in all of Willie brown 1st before anything comes up !!
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Prime would you be so Forgiving & Accepting if it Was Donald in a Similar type situation?
Her & Pocahontas should be Kicked out of any political party Regardless.
I could care less who Trump sleeps with. I'll leave it to Melania to worry about.
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I could care less who Trump sleeps with. I'll leave it to Melania to worry about.
True & Exactly Right.
Though be honest you’d likely care & have something to say if He Slept his way to
Success / Jobs / And President.
Yet you’re not commenting on them 2 Women.
Is it 1 rule for Donald & another for Them Bitches ?
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True & Exactly Right.
Though be honest you’d likely care & have something to say if He Slept his way to
Success / Jobs / And President.
Yet you’re not commenting on them 2 Women.
Is it 1 rule for Donald & another for Them Bitches ?
He’s more concerned with who Pete Buttplug sleeps with
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He’s more concerned with who Pete Buttplug sleeps with
Sheesh if Killary Wasn’t Awful Enough
They’ve found ButtPlug & His Boyfriend 🤮🤮🤮
DummyCraps are really Scrapping the Bottom of the Barrel - Pun intended
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Sheesh if Killary Wasn’t Awful Enough
They’ve found ButtPlug & His Boyfriend 🤮🤮🤮
DummyCraps are really Scrapping the Bottom of the Barrel - Pun intended
I’d love to see someone punch Adam Schiff in the face
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True & Exactly Right.
Though be honest you’d likely care & have something to say if He Slept his way to
Success / Jobs / And President.
Yet you’re not commenting on them 2 Women.
Is it 1 rule for Donald & another for Them Bitches ?
Maybe, maybe not. People do a lot of crazy things in order to become successful. Generally speaking, I make an effort to not judge people based on their sex lives, unless it directly affects me. I'm no saint, nor am I a hypocrite.
I'm neither commenting on the women's indiscretions nor Trump's philandering. It is the same 'rules' for everyone.
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I’d love to see someone punch Adam Schiff in the face
I’m not really happy to say it Though
I’d like to See Donkey Teeth & Muslime Bitches Punched in the Face
As hard as that Antifa Bitch in that Now Famous Clip
And ButtPlug Kicked Up The Arse With His ButtPlug in
🤣😂🤣
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Maybe, maybe not. People do a lot of crazy things in order to become successful. Generally speaking, I make an effort to not judge people based on their sex lives, unless it directly affects me. I'm no saint, nor am I a hypocrite.
I'm neither commenting on the women's indiscretions nor Trump's philandering. It is the same 'rules' for everyone.
I wasn’t commenting on the Bitches Indiscretions
I was commenting on them Sleeping with men to further themselves career wise
Big Difference
Donald Just can’t help Fucking younger Women
Nothing to do with Futhering Himself
You see The Big Difference- He Fucks Them Because He Can & Wants To.
They just Prostitute Themselves for Career
Even You can See & Admit That.
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I wasn’t commenting on the Bitches Indiscretions
I was commenting on them Sleeping with men to further themselves career wise
Big Difference
Donald Just can’t help Fucking younger Women
Nothing to do with Futhering Himself
You see The Big Difference- He Fucks Them Because He Can & Wants To.
They just Prostitute Themselves for Career
Even You can See & Admit That.
Good sir, what's the deal with all the capital letters? Feels like wasted effort.
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Good sir, what's the deal with all the capital letters? Feels like wasted effort.
Ha
I Got a Lot Of Effort To Waste 😂🤣😂
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I wasn’t commenting on the Bitches Indiscretions
I was commenting on them Sleeping with men to further themselves career wise
Big Difference
Donald Just can’t help Fucking younger Women
Nothing to do with Futhering Himself
You see The Big Difference- He Fucks Them Because He Can & Wants To.
They just Prostitute Themselves for Career
Even You can See & Admit That.
Yes there is a difference between being a prostitute or a client. One sells and the other buys (quid pro quo). Maybe not Trump or most people, but both men and women have prostituted themselves to better their careers and this will continue to happen as it has since the dawn of civilization. I'm not one to judge. But if I were, I'd feel the same about prostitutes and clients. I don't think one is any better or worse than the other.
Ever wonder how many of the women Trump has slept with were/are attracted to his status and not his person. Do think any of his wives were with him just because they loved him or found him handsome or with great personality? Maybe some have. But, it is hard to imagine.
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Yes there is a difference between being a prostitute or a client. One sells and the other buys (quid pro quo). Maybe not Trump or most people, but both men and women have prostituted themselves to better their careers and this will continue to happen as it has since the dawn of civilization. I'm not one to judge. But if I were, I'd feel the same about prostitutes and clients. I don't think one is any better or worse than the other.
Ever wonder how many of the women Trump has slept with were/are attracted to his status and not his person. Do think any of his wives were with him just because they loved him or found him handsome or with great personality? Maybe some have. But, it is hard to imagine.
A sickening deviant like you should never comment on someone else’s marriage
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A sickening deviant like you should never comment on someone else’s marriage
Just as you should not comment on posts not directed at you.
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Just as you should not comment on posts not directed at you.
A sickening perverted deviant like you should not be allowed to troll this board for boy cock
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Yes there is a difference between being a prostitute or a client. One sells and the other buys (quid pro quo). Maybe not Trump or most people, but both men and women have prostituted themselves to better their careers and this will continue to happen as it has since the dawn of civilization. I'm not one to judge. But if I were, I'd feel the same about prostitutes and clients. I don't think one is any better or worse than the other.
Ever wonder how many of the women Trump has slept with were/are attracted to his status and not his person. Do think any of his wives were with him just because they loved him or found him handsome or with great personality? Maybe some have. But, it is hard to imagine.
You’re doing it Again - Swerving the subject & changing the goal posts
As you don’t want to Be Honest & Call Out them Bitches for What they’ve been doing.
Instead you try muddying the Waters with Irrelevant Crap referring to Donald.
Another argument lost, Why can’t you just Admit They’re Wrong & Behaved Badly
& Should Be Kicked Out / Exposed for The Whores They Are.
Trying to Defend the indefensible is Just Plain Daft.
You’re an intelligent Man - Do you struggle in Calling A Spade A Spade ?
Does it have to be for You = A wooden handled, Square shaped Steel ended implement
For removing soil used by Hand & Foot ::)
It’s A Spade. !!
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I’d love to see someone punch Adam Schiff in the face
I had an 82 year old preacher say the same thing to me today at the gym. ;D
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The "whistleblower's" attorney said he would "get rid of him" about Trump in 2017....I'm sure it's unrelated.
https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1192134053333524480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1192134053333524480&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fwhistleblowers-attorney-vowed-get-rid-trump-2017
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“Show me the man and I'll show you the crime” - Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria...head of Joseph Stalin's secret police.