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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: SAMSON123 on February 15, 2020, 03:31:19 AM
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According to these guys Craig did not murder the woman he was charged and imprisoned for, but instead took the blame to save his wife
I answer the question of whether Craig Titus is a murderer. The story I tell was told to me by Richard Greenbaum, who was very involved with Titus in Las Vegas. I also explain why Craig Titus is in the intro to my videos.
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Probably right.
He protected the woman he loved.
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I'm not going to watch your video and I haven't got a large knowledge of what happened with the case in respect to what they claim (obviously I was around, but I never bothered to read the book or anything).
My honest judgement of Craig is that he was an angry guy, but I never got a vibe from him that he was the type of person to murder someone.
Do I believe he could lead a shambles of a life to the point where someone accidentally dies, 100%.
Do I think he directly murdered someone? Fuck no.
The man had plenty of enemies, so naturally, most people were quite pleased to simply label him as a murderer, but I don't get the vibe from him.
There are some angry guys you think "yep, woman basher" and then there are others that you can just tell they keep their shit in check with women and to me, Craig is the latter. Of course, I can't know for sure.
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I'm not going to watch your video and I haven't got a large knowledge of what happened with the case in respect to what they claim (obviously I was around, but I never bothered to read the book or anything).
My honest judgement of Craig is that he was an angry guy, but I never got a vibe from him that he was the type of person to murder someone.
Do I believe he could lead a shambles of a life to the point where someone accidentally dies, 100%.
Do I think he directly murdered someone? Fuck no.
The man had plenty of enemies, so naturally, most people were quite pleased to simply label him as a murderer, but I don't get the vibe from him.
I have similar sentiments, but so many parts of this don't add up…
Death: accidental (maybe).
Stuffing the body in the Jag & torching it: NOT SO accidental (definitely).
Stopping to get your nails done while frantically fleeing the scene: more odd & perverse than a primemuscle post.
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I'm not going to watch your video and I haven't got a large knowledge of what happened with the case in respect to what they claim (obviously I was around, but I never bothered to read the book or anything).
My honest judgement of Craig is that he was an angry guy, but I never got a vibe from him that he was the type of person to murder someone.
Do I believe he could lead a shambles of a life to the point where someone accidentally dies, 100%.
Do I think he directly murdered someone? Fuck no.
The man had plenty of enemies, so naturally, most people were quite pleased to simply label him as a murderer, but I don't get the vibe from him.
There are some angry guys you think "yep, woman basher" and then there are others that you can just tell they keep their shit in check with women and to me, Craig is the latter. Of course, I can't know for sure.
Thats what everyone says when someone they know does something terrible.
You shouldnt be surprised at what anyone does given the right circumstances...
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I have similar sentiments, but so many parts of this don't add up…
Death: accidental.
Stuffing the body in the Jag & torching it: NOT SO accidental.
Stopping to get your nails done while frantically fleeing the scene: more odd & perverse than a primemuscle post.
Aye, like I said, leading a shambles of a life and making poor judgements after the fact, that I can believe.
I just don't believe that Craig killed the woman. No way do I believe that.
If anything, Kelly getting her nails done makes me far more suspicious of her because fact is, women are way better at being cold at the snap of a finger.
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Thats what everyone says when someone they know does something terrible.
You shouldnt be surprised at what anyone does given the right circumstances...
No. What everyone says when someone they know does something terrible is "Oh, they were quiet, I didn't expect this". I can't recall ever hearing someone say "well yeah, he was a fucking hothead but not that level".
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No. What everyone says when someone they know does something terrible is "Oh, they were quiet, I didn't expect this". I can't recall ever hearing someone say "well yeah, he was a fucking hothead but not that level".
thats an even sillier statement
So someone is a hothead and has a short temper but they would always reel it in just short of killing someone.
Hotheads kill people all the time by accident, single punch killings are quite common
Why would you be surprised when a hothead oversteps the mark?
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thats an even sillier statement
So someone is a hothead and has a short temper but they would always reel it in just short of killing someone.
Hotheads kill people all the time by accident, single punch killings are quite common
Why would you be surprised when a hothead oversteps the mark?
It's a difficult thing to really explain.
This board ground down just about every professional person in the fitness world, except Craig Titus and maybe a few others.
He never really got angry at much that was written here and he displayed some of the least ego, I've seen from a Pro.
It's hard to explain. He was actually insanely passive, despite his reputation. He had a few flashpoints where he was caught in situations confronting people in his real life - but he didn't let that shit spill out on just about anybody.
If you came here after him, you'd be forgiven for thinking he'd have been beefing with everybody on here (this place was 10 times as vicious back then, too). Instead, he lasted ages here and somehow, never really caught the ire of the masses in terms of latching onto someone who reacts.
I'm fine with you thinking that is silly. It isn't something I can easily describe. There are hotheads who completely laser anybody who even slightly bothers them and then there is this guy who is actually very selective about where he expresses it - and that's what I mean by "not that level".
I struggle to comprehend how a petit, small girl manages to do anything to cause him to kill her.
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It's a difficult thing to really explain.
This board ground down just about every professional person in the fitness world, except Craig Titus and maybe a few others.
He never really got angry at much that was written here and he displayed some of the least ego, I've seen from a Pro.
It's hard to explain. He was actually insanely passive, despite his reputation. He had a few flashpoints where he was caught in situations confronting people in his real life - but he didn't let that shit spill out on just about anybody.
If you came here after him, you'd be forgiven for thinking he'd have been beefing with everybody on here (this place was 10 times as vicious back then, too). Instead, he lasted ages here and somehow, never really caught the ire of the masses in terms of latching onto someone who reacts.
I'm fine with you thinking that is silly. It isn't something I can easily describe. There are hotheads who completely laser anybody who even slightly bothers them and then there is this guy who is actually very selective about where he expresses it - and that's what I mean by "not that level".
I struggle to comprehend how a petit, small girl manages to do anything to cause him to kill her.
so he wasnt really that much of a hothead at all then..
I have no idea why you labelled him one in the first place, maybe you should have just written "Oh, he was quiet, I didn't expect this".
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so he wasnt really that much of a hothead at all then..
I have no idea why you labelled him one in the first place, maybe you should have just written "Oh, he was quiet, I didn't expect this".
Because the dominant, cro-magnon reaction to Craig being done for murder was "Oh, he confronted a few people and had a few real life beefs with someone, he must be ultra angry and is definitely guilty"
If he got in a beef with you, you'd know him as a hot head. Craig's beefs were with people who could influence his life. Ron Harris, writing bad things about his after parties. Kamali - being a douche to each other as fellow competitors etc
But how the fuck a tiny girl with no influence at all could possibly raise his ire, I don't know.
Other than threaten to accuse him of rape, I guess.
We'll never know.
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Because the dominant, cro-magnon reaction to Craig being done for murder was "Oh, he confronted a few people and had a few real life beefs with someone, he must be ultra angry and is definitely guilty"
If he got in a beef with you, you'd know him as a hot head. Craig's beefs were with people who could influence his life. Ron Harris, writing bad things about his after parties. Kamali - being a douche to each other as fellow competitors etc
But how the fuck a tiny girl with no influence at all could possibly raise his ire, I don't know.
Other than threaten to accuse him of rape, I guess.
We'll never know.
how would you respond in that situation?
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I'll take my chances in the courts, rather than create an actual crime that I can be found guilty of.
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Yeah I thought this was pretty much assumed by everybody... Kelly killed the chick then Craig and Kelly attempted the cover up did the burning etc...
Technically what Craig did I think is still considered first degree murder anyway.
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I'm not going to watch your video and I haven't got a large knowledge of what happened with the case in respect to what they claim (obviously I was around, but I never bothered to read the book or anything).
My honest judgement of Craig is that he was an angry guy, but I never got a vibe from him that he was the type of person to murder someone.
Do I believe he could lead a shambles of a life to the point where someone accidentally dies, 100%.
Do I think he directly murdered someone? Fuck no.
The man had plenty of enemies, so naturally, most people were quite pleased to simply label him as a murderer, but I don't get the vibe from him.
There are some angry guys you think "yep, woman basher" and then there are others that you can just tell they keep their shit in check with women and to me, Craig is the latter. Of course, I can't know for sure.
You should watch the video then, because the discussion is actually in Craig's defense.
The narrator said the woman actually OVERDOSED on drugs and that was the cause of her death.... NOT CRAIG
WATCH THE VIDEO
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I have similar sentiments, but so many parts of this don't add up…
Death: accidental (maybe).
Stuffing the body in the Jag & torching it: NOT SO accidental (definitely).
Stopping to get your nails done while frantically fleeing the scene: more odd & perverse than a primemuscle post.
Don’t forget he logged on to getbig between the death and the car burning to say hello or whatever he posted.
The woman died of strangulation. And was tased multiple times. And strangled. To death.
And he took the rap. Because he loved his wife.
And now he’s not a murderer. Chick is still dead though.
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Only according to those who examined the evidence.
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What matters is that he was a great bodybuilder
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Probably right.
He protected the woman he loved.
Yes,we've all been there. But shivalry towards women isn't a right thing....she will betray you in the end anyways.
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he is small and useless to us now...
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No. What everyone says when someone they know does something terrible is "Oh, they were quiet, I didn't expect this". I can't recall ever hearing someone say "well yeah, he was a fucking hothead but not that level".
Hahaha!
That is even way worse! It's like a bomb with a very short fuse just ticking away.... Can go of any time and it fucking did!
Ive seen Craig losing it, on girls working out in Golds. So ballistic where someone had to step in..
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When does he get out? Will he get back on cycle?
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When does he get out? Will he get back on cycle?
Sure he kept all his gains in the joint!
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When does he get out? Will he get back on cycle?
So he has a few more years before a possible parole
(https://mylifeofcrime.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/craigtitus-prison-mug.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/hX3uP.jpg)
With time served from the date of capture, Craig Titus is eligible for parole release on December 23, 2026.
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after reading that mexican skinning thread I'd say craig is an angel...
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When does he get out? Will he get back on cycle?
When he does hit the juice, he's going to get huge. His receptors will be ripe as fuck.
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Yeah I thought this was pretty much assumed by everybody... Kelly killed the chick then Craig and Kelly attempted the cover up did the burning etc...
Technically what Craig did I think is still considered first degree murder anyway.
If he didn't know it was happening until it happened...Accessory After the Fact...
If he was aware it was going to happen...Accessory Before the Fact.
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Aye, like I said, leading a shambles of a life and making poor judgements after the fact, that I can believe.
I just don't believe that Craig killed the woman. No way do I believe that.
If anything, Kelly getting her nails done makes me far more suspicious of her because fact is, women are way better at being cold at the snap of a finger.
Kelly getting her nails done while running from the cops shows what a narcissistic whore she really was/is. I worked out at the Gold's they worked out at in Vegas and saw Kelly several times and she always seem cold and heartless and that was before she caught me staring at her ass.
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Craig deserves to be in jail just for White Knighting his murderess wife.
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It would be interesting to see what kind of reception he got if he were released now. Almost all his associates talked a lot of shit about him after he got locked up. It's fine if you think he's a POS but if you always thought that, how come you didn't act like it when he was out?
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It would be interesting to see what kind of reception he got if he were released now. Almost all his associates talked a lot of shit about him after he got locked up. It's fine if you think he's a POS but if you always thought that, how come you didn't act like it when he was out?
After he was arrested for drug dealing in the mid 90’s, he was an informant for the police... setting up his friends and associates. He saved himself at their expense.
I think that says it all.
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after reading that mexican skinning thread I'd say craig is an angel...
Bro...
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After he was arrested for drug dealing in the mid 90’s, he was an informant for the police... setting up his friends and associates. He saved himself at their expense.
I think that says it all.
I don't know but you're probably right. Though almost everyone rats when busted, no matter how tough they talk.
I saw the Palumbo talk with Craig's buddy Arne List and he also admitted ratting on Craig. Is there even one example of a bb who was busted for drugs and didn't rat if it would help them avoid jail?
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Unless esfitness posts we cant settle this discussion..
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So he has a few more years before a possible parole
(https://mylifeofcrime.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/craigtitus-prison-mug.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/hX3uP.jpg)
With time served from the date of capture, Craig Titus is eligible for parole release on December 23, 2026.
the blond hair is gone!
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His blonde hair was from the sun I think, he's bald now, like me
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So he has a few more years before a possible parole
(https://mylifeofcrime.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/craigtitus-prison-mug.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/hX3uP.jpg)
With time served from the date of capture, Craig Titus is eligible for parole release on December 23, 2026.
Getbig would say he was 5'5
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There would of been evidence presented at the case that would of questioned whether or not Craig Titus did this, but it never came out. Craig took a plea deal the night before (I think) to save his then current wife from a jail term so she could have a life. At least that is what the prosecutors told him, and he believed that. All was set with the prosecutor and the defense, except there was one things they did not realize. That this judge was a hard nose judge. Who decided that whatever the prosecutors promised Craig and his defense team of the set time, she would revoke and change, which surprised everybody involved.
I am guessing that if they knew the judge would do that, and not follow what the prosecutors agreed to, it would have been a different story.
Perhaps one day, the real truth would come out, but when some of us were investigating it, many people tried to run and hide on what happened.
If you want, I can bring up a few questions as to why I tend to agree that Craig did not initially tax and strike her.
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Getbig would say he was 5'5
I would say he's my height, I'm 5'7'', but with shoes on I'm 5'8.5'', and I'm assuming he's wearing shoes in that pic
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We have a lot of certified lawyers on here
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Did Craig actually think his loyalty to Kelly would be reciprocated?
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Would it be fair to say that Craig Titus is a legend of the sport?
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Did Craig actually think his loyalty to Kelly would be reciprocated?
Yes because he was a beta. Maybe he knows better today.
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There would of been evidence presented at the case that would of questioned whether or not Craig Titus did this, but it never came out. Craig took a plea deal the night before (I think) to save his then current wife from a jail term so she could have a life. At least that is what the prosecutors told him, and he believed that. All was set with the prosecutor and the defense, except there was one things they did not realize. That this judge was a hard nose judge. Who decided that whatever the prosecutors promised Craig and his defense team of the set time, she would revoke and change, which surprised everybody involved.
I am guessing that if they knew the judge would do that, and not follow what the prosecutors agreed to, it would have been a different story.
Perhaps one day, the real truth would come out, but when some of us were investigating it, many people tried to run and hide on what happened.
If you want, I can bring up a few questions as to why I tend to agree that Craig did not initially tax and strike her
It would be interesting to see what your Thoughts are Ron.
And what you know / found out.
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It would be interesting to see what your Thoughts are Ron.
And what you know / found out.
I will give you one or two item that should of come out if there was a trial on Craig, which would of cast doubt perhaps. I am not saying that they did not take the body to the desert, etc.
When the actual tazing occurred (six times at the house), and looks like it was upstairs and she fell down, where was Craig? What were the actual phone call timing going in and out after this occurred? Phone calls to his cell phone to and from? I think they had the triangulation area from three cell towers to show where the call originated and was received that was or could of been introduced in the case. We never heard that because the prosecutors offered a plea deal...
Craig and Kelly used a food delivery service. Is this was murder and they wanted to run, why was the food delivered to their doorstop on the next day after she passed away? Would you not have stopped it a awhile back?
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I will give you one or two item that should of come out if there was a trial on Craig, which would of cast doubt perhaps. I am not saying that they did not take the body to the desert, etc.
When the actual tazing occurred (six times at the house), and looks like it was upstairs and she fell down, where was Craig? What were the actual phone call timing going in and out after this occurred? Phone calls to his cell phone to and from? I think they had the triangulation area from three cell towers to show where the call originated and was received that was or could of been introduced in the case. We never heard that because the prosecutors offered a plea deal...
Craig and Kelly used a food delivery service. Is this was murder and they wanted to run, why was the food delivered to their doorstop on the next day after she passed away? Would you not have stopped it a awhile back?
probably not, murderers tend to be stupid...
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I will give you one or two item that should of come out if there was a trial on Craig, which would of cast doubt perhaps. I am not saying that they did not take the body to the desert, etc.
When the actual tazing occurred (six times at the house), and looks like it was upstairs and she fell down, where was Craig? What were the actual phone call timing going in and out after this occurred? Phone calls to his cell phone to and from? I think they had the triangulation area from three cell towers to show where the call originated and was received that was or could of been introduced in the case. We never heard that because the prosecutors offered a plea deal...
Craig and Kelly used a food delivery service. Is this was murder and they wanted to run, why was the food delivered to their doorstop on the next day after she passed away? Would you not have stopped it a awhile back?
Thanks Ron.
They are very interesting & Valid points.
As you say these things & Likely Many Others didn’t come out because of the Plea Deal.
Makes it all the More interesting.
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I will give you one or two item that should of come out if there was a trial on Craig, which would of cast doubt perhaps. I am not saying that they did not take the body to the desert, etc.
When the actual tazing occurred (six times at the house), and looks like it was upstairs and she fell down, where was Craig? What were the actual phone call timing going in and out after this occurred? Phone calls to his cell phone to and from? I think they had the triangulation area from three cell towers to show where the call originated and was received that was or could of been introduced in the case. We never heard that because the prosecutors offered a plea deal...
Craig and Kelly used a food delivery service. Is this was murder and they wanted to run, why was the food delivered to their doorstop on the next day after she passed away? Would you not have stopped it a awhile back?
Because they didn’t cancel a food delivery service it’s not murder?!?! (That’s weak sorry these are known drug abusers ) phone triangulation is a bit better (if you can prove Craig wasn’t home at time of death.. which is extremely difficult to do!) ... Craig was definitely involved (in a long drawn out drug induced stupor which led to Melissa’s torture and death ...both should fucking fry!)
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Yes because he was a beta. Maybe he knows better today.
I'll bet she's hoping he never gets out.
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Craig and Kelly used a food delivery service. Is this was murder and they wanted to run, why was the food delivered to their doorstop on the next day after she passed away? Would you not have stopped it a awhile back?
So, because Craig & Kelly didn’t cancel their “food delivery service” immediately after the killing, THAT should absolve them of the murder charges? Maybe they didn't stop it "a while back" because the murder was a spontaneous event.
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So, because Craig & Kelly didn’t cancel their “food delivery service” immediately after the killing, THAT should absolve them of the murder charges? Maybe they didn't stop it "a while back" because the murder was a spontaneous event.
get rid of body..check
clear room of all incriminating evidence..check
establish alibis...check
Cancel food order.....?????
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So, because Craig & Kelly didn’t cancel their “food delivery service” immediately after the killing, THAT should absolve them of the murder charges? Maybe they didn't stop it "a while back" because the murder was a spontaneous event.
Did I say that? The question is not if they cancelled it, but was there a phone call telling someone to pick it up, and what occurred. As the the phone triangluation, if they did show that Craig's phone was somewhere else when he got a phone call, does that cast doubt on Craig, but pinpoint on Kelly? Did they actually check this six tazer shots, where they were, fired on successive times. First degree murder? Or manslaughter?
Not saying one of the other, but interesting to discuss what may have occurred if there was a trial.