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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: jaejonna on June 01, 2006, 06:37:34 AM
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Another reminder that Robinson was screwed.
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so not impressed
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He was definitely the most conditioned, however lacking in mass...it was apples vs oragnes
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Zane looked great there. he was small compared to some dudes but for the TIME wasent "tiny"
contest ready at 5'9 190 Isnt that far cry away from a 230 lb Arnold, 200 lb Serge (at 6 feet) 270 lb Lou at 6'5. Waller was what 220 at 6 feet.
It is like Dex compared to Coleman today.
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That my friends right there is bodybuilding !!
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Another reminder that Robinson was screwed.
Okay Oliver Stone , Robby lost because he wasn't s sharp and he had no legs ;)
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What sport was that?
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No legs is asinine; could have had more cuts but the quads and hams were huge, with decent calves. That's a poor assessment.
Wasn't sharp in '77, but never was allowed to win after that either. Nor were Padilla, Szkalak, Fox or Mentzer.
More to it than what the mags tell you to think, my little Iron Ager.. ;)
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No legs is asinine; could have had more cuts but the quads and hams were huge, with decent calves. That's a poor assessment.
Wasn't sharp in '77, but never was allowed to win after that either. Nor were Padilla, Szkalak, Fox or Mentzer.
More to it than what the mags tell you to think, my little Iron Ager.. ;)
Robbies LEGS were never on par with his upper body and his conditioning was lacking , when you stand next to Frank Zane you better be as shredded or more so !! this is a pic from the 79 Olympia , if you can't see he is off and not anywhere near as sharp as Frank , it shows your eye sight is worse than I originally thought .
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Zane looked great there. he was small compared to some dudes but for the TIME wasent "tiny"
contest ready at 5'9 190 Isnt that far cry away from a 230 lb Arnold, 200 lb Serge (at 6 feet) 270 lb Lou at 6'5. Waller was what 220 at 6 feet.
It is like Dex compared to Coleman today.
Hmmm , during the Zane era, those champs had actual major network coverage of the shows. Now that we have a million TV networks due to cable and digital , bodybuilding has no TV coverage. Yeah, he really was bad for the sport ;)
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Hmmm , during the Zane era, those champs had actual major network coverage of the shows. Now that we have a million TV networks due to cable and digital , bodybuilding has no TV coverage. Yeah, he really was bad for the sport ;)
True.
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Frank had excellent symmetry.
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What sport was that?
Do you even work out? ::)
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Frank took the sport into a new direction. Quality over quantity! This is the lesson he once taught Arnold and Arnold never forgot and came back in 1980 to teach a young Lou Ferrigno that very same lesson. I also feel that Robby had very good leg development but was not as well conditioned as Frank.
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awesome clip. i could've done without some of the slow motion, but whatever. frank zane was fuckin rizznipped.
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Frank took the sport into a new direction. Quality over quantity!
Actually Weider took the "sport" in another direction, Zane was along for the vehicle at the time much as Schwarzenegger was 10 years earlier over Oliva. The parallels are obvious, given Weider's desire to increase sales and prominence.
Very much a no-brainer: anoint marketable, articulate caucasians Schwarzenegger & Zane for a string of victories and concurrent increases in interest and sales, or allow questionable semi-english literate non-whites to win, who wouldn't move his magazines & supplements. Very very simple from a business perspective, and Weider was always about the bottom line.
When Zane won, health & fitness was on the upswing in the United States. Greats like Robinson, Fox, Szkalak, Mentzer, & Padilla weren't given fair opportunities and for the most part all drew the same conclusions and left.
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Ive never been a big Zane fan, but I thought he looked pretty good there. Seems like he had more size that year than in 1980.
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Robbies LEGS were never on par with his upper body and his conditioning was lacking , when you stand next to Frank Zane you better be as shredded or more so !!
More nerdy generalizations, trying to sound smarter than he is.
What I remember standing backstage when he won the Universe was that even amidst all the other top BBs he stood out of the crowd as great. Lower body was good, not great, only because the calves were decent, not great. Thighs both quads and hams were huge, with very good shape and solid cuts. Overall, upper and lower body he was great.
Nowhere near the mediocrity seen with Yates, for example.
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Actually Weider took the "sport" in another direction, Zane was along for the vehicle at the time much as Schwarzenegger was 10 years earlier over Oliva. The parallels are obvious, given Weider's desire to increase sales and prominence.
Very much a no-brainer: anoint marketable, articulate caucasians Schwarzenegger & Zane for a string of victories and concurrent increases in interest and sales, or allow questionable semi-english literate non-whites to win, who wouldn't move his magazines & supplements. Very very simple from a business perspective, and Weider was always about the bottom line.
When Zane won, health & fitness was on the upswing in the United States. Greats like Robinson, Fox, Szkalak, Mentzer, & Padilla weren't given fair opportunities and for the most part all drew the same conclusions and left.
Articulate caucasians? lol Zane yes , The Austrian farm boy with a thick German accent , Mentzer a very intelligent cucasian , yet he was denied? at least be consistant with your theories .
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Quote of the day!
Bookmark that one ;)
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Articulate caucasians? lol Zane yes , The Austrian farm boy with a thick German accent , Mentzer a very intelligent cucasian , yet he was denied? at least be consistant with your theories .
pwned
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Too bad the judges had to go and screw up the entire industry by changing their standards of what a quality physique is supposed to look like!!
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joe weider sure is a fuckin fag damn why he gotta leave his hand on his sholder on a greasy fucker touching all gay. i mean a simple pat on the sholder would do.
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joe weider sure is a fuckin fag damn why he gotta leave his hand on his sholder on a greasy fucker touching all gay. i mean a simple pat on the sholder would do.
In english please!
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Articulate caucasians? lol Zane yes , The Austrian farm boy with a thick German accent , Mentzer a very intelligent cucasian , yet he was denied? at least be consistant with your theories .
This nerd's a riot with the know-it-all shit while requesting CONSISTENCY, which he doesn't spell properly. hahahahhahahha
Obviously the "farm boy" as the know-all put it, did ok in communicating just fine.
Mentzer was out of the loop; obvious to some by the fact that he wasn't even in PI when he could have been.
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This nerd's a riot with the know-it-all shit yet requesting CONSISTENCY, he can't spell properly. hahahahhahahha
Mentzer was considered a trouble maker; never occurred to this nudnick why he wasn't featured in Pumping Iron other than a split second at the bar.
maybe because he wasn't a top teir Pro back then , maybe because it was 1975 and NOT 1977/78/79 is hey-day , maybe because he wasn't good enough ;)
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Maybe has nothing to do with your mis-spelled "analysis". hahahahhaha
What a putz with the know-all "analysis". A little kid.
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Its unfortunate the weiders had such sway over the results of their contests. I feel bodybuilding really missed out.
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Maybe has nothing to do with your mis-spelled "analysis". hahahahhaha
Maybe its called a typo , my right wrist & forearms are broken ;) maybe yopu're grasping at straws and maybe you have nothing of value to add ;)
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Articulate caucasians? lol Zane yes , The Austrian farm boy with a thick German accent , Mentzer a very intelligent cucasian , yet he was denied? at least be consistant with your theories .
Schwarzenegger - caucausion definetly. Articulate - very much so relative to sergio oliva
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Schwarzenegger - caucausion definetly. Articulate - very much so relative to sergio oliva
not when he came here ;)
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Its unfortunate the weiders had such sway over the results of their contests. I feel bodybuilding really missed out.
Could not agree more. If Weider had played it differently, instead of a relative lull with duds like Columbu, Dickerson and Bannout winning, BB could have been filled with rivalries between greats from the late-70s through the 80s. Deserving BBs like Robinson, Fox, Padilla, Mentzer, Szkalak, etc., all of whom instead left.
IMO had some of them been allowed to win, Haney might not have won as many, and wouldn't have been accorded such reverence amongst some.
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Schwarzenegger - caucausion definetly. Articulate - very much so relative to sergio oliva
And using your logic why have Sergio in the first place? they could have replaced him with the Articulate caucasian blonde , blue eyed Dave Draper , or the caucasian Chuck Sipes ?
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Man it would be fun to compete at times when you could be Mr O at 190 pounds. I compete at 190 and am not considered big enough to win anything more than a beginners contest. Back then I guess I would have been more motivated to compete more often.
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joe weider sure is a fuckin fag damn why he gotta leave his hand on his sholder on a greasy fucker touching all gay. i mean a simple pat on the sholder would do.
when his trunks start falling down it turns to mild homoerotica
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Zane looked incredible! :)
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joe weider sure is a fuckin fag damn why he gotta leave his hand on his sholder on a greasy fucker touching all gay. i mean a simple pat on the sholder would do.
Understatement! Joe was the ORIGINAL SCHMOE ;)
....and Zane sucked, the Weider girls just weren't ready for Robby. Too black, too strong >:(
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and Zane sucked, the Weider girls just weren't ready for Robby. Too black, too strong
This is reality, vs. the pre-fab Weider reality. ;)
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zane had a great overall look,and too some not big enough.but when he posed he got bigger and muscles had that pop look to them.look over the last couple of decades and you will see most of the aesthetic type of bber's copping that same routine to a t....he worked that posing to his strength's.
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zane looked great
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Wow, he looks way bigger in that video than on the pics i saw of him
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Is he good????
Too hard to tell without his bathing suit shoved up his ass to see if he had "striated glutes"