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Title: Our allies, the French
Post by: bmacsys on August 11, 2006, 08:37:46 AM
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FRIDAY, AUGUST 04, 2006 6:47 AM

 
France's blunder over Iran





France is playing a duplicitous game in the Middle East. Fortunately, its current diplomats are not as adept at causing mischief as they were when France prevented a consensus on how to deal with Iraq's defiance of the U.N. Security Council. This time France has been quietly backing Iran and its proxy, Hezbollah, against the United States, Britain and Israel in the war raging in southern Lebanon. But France's foreign minister, behaving as ludicrously as that epic blunderer Inspector Clouseau, has exposed French perfidy.

On Monday Philippe Douste-Blazy told incredulous reporters at a press conference at the Iranian Embassy in Beirut that Iran is working to stabilize the Middle East. 'In the region there is of course a country such as Iran - a great country, a great people and a great civilization which is respected and which plays a stabilizing role in the region.' Later he met at the embassy in Beirut with Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki, who thanked France for calling for an immediate cease-fire in southern Lebanon.

The outcry in France that followed his words prompted Mr. Douste-Blazy to rephrase his remarks. He told the Jewish Community Radio station in Paris Wednesday that he meant to say Iran had 'a part of responsibility in the current conflict' between Israel and Hezbollah and that it had 'to help pacify the region.'

That was not the end of it. Yesterday Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who was attending an emergency meeting of Muslim leaders in Malaysia, put into words the kind of stability that Iran is seeking. The Associated Press quoted President Ahmadinejad saying that the solution for the conflict in Lebanon is the 'elimination' of Israel. 'Although the main solution is for the elimination of the Zionist regime, at this stage an immediate cease-fire must be implemented,' he said. 'Today the Americans are after the greater Middle East. The Zionist regime is used to reach this objective. The sole existence of this regime is for invasion and attack.'

Responding once more, Mr. Douste-Blazy said yesterday: 'I totally condemn these words,' adding that they are 'absolutely unacceptable on anyone's part, especially from a head of state.' In a further attempt to clarify his earlier remarks, the French foreign minister said that Iran had an opportunity to 'show that it can play a positive and stabilizing role in the region,' but that President Ahmadinejad's statement 'confirmed that this is not the case.'

The same could be said of France. It has an opportunity to play a positive and stabilizing role in the region, but its covert support for Iran - revealed by the blunder of Foreign Minister Douste-Blazy - suggests that is not the case.

 
 
Thats what you get for bailing France out every world war. >:(
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2006, 08:44:40 AM
Even without this information I've always wanted Britain to goto war with France, take them over and rename them to "The Central Republic of Britain" and make them stop eating snails, frogs legs and make the fuckers speak English :D

This shit just adds more fuel to the fire! :D

Man I hate France...
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: bmacsys on August 11, 2006, 08:47:01 AM
Even without this information I've always wanted Britain to goto war with France, take them over and rename them to "The Central Republic of Britain" and make them stop eating snails, frogs legs and make the fuckers speak English :D

This shit just adds more fuel to the fire! :D

Man I hate France...

Just thinking about eating that crap makes me want to throw up!
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 11, 2006, 08:48:18 AM
Mike Wallace just interviewed ahmadinejad for 60 minutes . . . i think the interview runs next week. wonder what the wily pussy has to say directly to an american audience?
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2006, 08:51:47 AM
Just thinking about eating that crap makes me want to throw up!

Just thinking how they are so arrogant towards the UK/US after Britain and America bailed them out of the possibility of guy existing and becoming a German state makes me want to puke >:(

Their lack of appreciation makes me sick
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: bmacsys on August 11, 2006, 08:56:16 AM
Even without this information I've always wanted Britain to goto war with France,

Didn't Britain kick Napolean's ass into exile back in the day?
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2006, 09:01:46 AM
Didn't Britain kick Napolean's ass into exile back in the day?

Indeed thanks to Mr. Nelson ;D

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/terrace/adw03/c-eight/france/timelin1.htm

Notice the fact the war made Britain require income tax! So by proxy France is responsible for me paying extortionate income tax! Yet another reason to hate those fuckers >:(
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 11, 2006, 09:02:34 AM
Didn't Britain kick Napolean's ass into exile back in the day?

all major wars are won only after the russians throw their millions in as cannon fodder . . . i wonder how soon the chinese can start taking over the russians' place in global conflicts?
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2006, 09:03:37 AM
Interesting: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: bmacsys on August 11, 2006, 09:09:40 AM
all major wars are won only after the russians throw their millions in as cannon fodder . . . i wonder how soon the chinese can start taking over the russians' place in global conflicts?

On the eastern front in WWII the Russians lost like 100 men to every German soldier. cannon fodder is right! The French can't be cannon fodder. They surrender immediately.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Deedee on August 11, 2006, 09:12:02 AM
Just thinking how they are so arrogant towards the UK/US after Britain and America bailed them out of the possibility of guy existing and becoming a German state makes me want to puke >:(

Their lack of appreciation makes me sick

Actually your emotionality makes you kind of sound like a Frenchman...
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2006, 09:15:38 AM
Actually your emotionality makes you kind of sound like a Frenchman...

Your un-kept crotch, bushy armpits, hairy legs and your desire to mate with farm animals make you look like a frenchwomen :-*
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Deedee on August 11, 2006, 09:17:37 AM
Your un-kept crotch, bushy armpits, hairy legs and your desire to mate with farm animals make you look like a frenchwomen :-*

Lol, you don't know many frenchwomen...
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 11, 2006, 09:17:58 AM
On the eastern front in WWII the Russians lost like 100 men to every German soldier. cannon fodder is right! The French can't be cannon fodder. They surrender immediately.

and napoleon would never have been defeated if he hadn't made his ill-fate march to Moscow . . . the Russians died w/o a second thought, but bonaparte was done after that.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: OzmO on August 11, 2006, 09:18:56 AM
Even without this information I've always wanted Britain to goto war with France, take them over and rename them to "The Central Republic of Britain" and make them stop eating snails, frogs legs and make the fuckers speak English :D

This shit just adds more fuel to the fire! :D

Man I hate France...

Aside from the snails and the frog legs their food is far superior to english food.  But that's where it ends.

And dam England for failing over and over again in France:  100 years war & Napoleanic wars.  hehe  ;D
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 11, 2006, 09:20:20 AM


And dam England for failing over and over again in France:  100 years war & Napoleanic wars.  hehe  ;D
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Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: OzmO on August 11, 2006, 09:22:28 AM

And dam England for failing over and over again in France:  100 years war & Napoleanic wars.  hehe  ;D


 ???

Well they never made France an English state!   heheh  I'm  just jokling around.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2006, 09:23:57 AM
Aside from the snails and the frog legs their food is far superior to english food.  But that's where it ends.

And dam England for failing over and over again in France:  100 years war & Napoleanic wars.  hehe  ;D

"World’s Top 50 Restaurants 2005"

http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2090.cfm

I quote:

Quote
The winner of the coveted number one spot was The Fat Duck in Bray, Berkshire, Britain. The pioneering restaurant is famed for introducing the world to delicacies such as snail porridge, mussels in popcorn sauce, and bacon and egg ice cream. The bizarre-sounding dishes are part of The Fat Duck’s bid to create food that is both delicious and fun. In addition to “Best Restaurant in the World,” the Fat Duck also picked up an award for the second year in a row for “Best Restaurant in Europe.”

Napolean got his ass handed to him by the Nelson.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: OzmO on August 11, 2006, 09:28:17 AM
"World’s Top 50 Restaurants 2005"

http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2090.cfm

I quote:

Napolean got his ass handed to him by the Nelson.

not Nelson,  Nelson died at the battle Trafalgar which was a navel battle. 

How ever the Duke of Wellington, Aurthor Welsley, beat his ass at Waterloo.

Typical French food vs typical English food.  Gourmet Restaraunts aren't indicative of a nations food.  Their every day food is.  However, food is so subjective so what is better is just a matter of opinion.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 11, 2006, 09:29:19 AM

Napolean got his ass handed to him by the Nelson.

after his naval setback, nap ranged freely all over Europe . . . except for the occasions on which he faced arthur wellesley, duke of wellington.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2006, 09:33:41 AM
Wups, apologise for my confusion between Nelson & Wellington.

Ozmo: Why use food as an argument in favour of France and then retract the statement only when you have been owned by factual evidence? 26% of the worlds top restaraunts are in Britain. Britain and American dominate the top 10 compared to France.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: OzmO on August 11, 2006, 09:54:14 AM
By whose list? 

I'm sure there's other lists and other ratings.   (i don't have time right now to research but maybe later)

Food is subjective.

Gourmet restaraunt ts aren't representative of a nations food. Hell maybe some of those places in England  serve french food.

Also it's common knowledge English food is bland.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Deedee on August 11, 2006, 09:55:38 AM
By whose list? 

I'm sure there's other lists and other ratings.   (i don't have time right now to research but maybe later)

Food is subjective.

Gourmet restaraunt ts aren't representative of a nations food. Hell maybe some of those places in England  serve french food.

Also it's common knowledge English food is bland.

They do.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2006, 10:00:01 AM
By whose list? 

I'm sure there's other lists and other ratings.   (i don't have time right now to research but maybe later)

Food is subjective.

Gourmet restaraunt ts aren't representative of a nations food. Hell maybe some of those places in England  serve french food.

Also it's common knowledge English food is bland.

My point is you back tracking. It's gone from a point in your arguement to being something subjective.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 11, 2006, 10:01:26 AM
sometimes i think france says things on purpose just to piss people off. they are well aware of our opinions of them. but it all doesnt matter- when all is said and done, they are our allies and friends just like always.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Deedee on August 11, 2006, 10:02:42 AM
My point is you back tracking. It's gone from a point in your arguement to being something subjective.

He was talking about cuisine.  You're talking about the restaraunt scene.  Not the same thing.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: OzmO on August 11, 2006, 10:09:41 AM
My point is you back tracking. It's gone from a point in your arguement to being something subjective.

No you don't get it.  Deedee does though, and says it better then i did.

Aside from the snails and the frog legs their food is far superior to english food.  But that's where it ends.

And dam England for failing over and over again in France:  100 years war & Napoleanic wars.  hehe  ;D

My statement indicates cuisine not restaruants.

And bringing up one restaraunt poll doesn't mean much as i'm sure there are many such "polls"
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Cavalier22 on August 11, 2006, 10:14:02 AM
russians gave up to germany in 1917 so then germany could concentrate on France and Britain on the west. WOuld have won except for  doughboys of the US
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: sportingsteroids on August 11, 2006, 10:35:07 AM
lol:)
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 11, 2006, 10:37:58 AM
can anyone think of a french zoopairmodel (French for supermodel)? I can think of American, Brazilian, German, Italian, Australian, English, Canadian even . . . no French though . . . ???
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Deedee on August 11, 2006, 10:47:53 AM
can anyone think of a french zoopairmodel (French for supermodel)? I can think of American, Brazilian, German, Italian, Australian, English, Canadian even . . . no French though . . . ???

Laetitia Casta... and they also have exceptionally hot newscasters.

Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 11, 2006, 10:49:42 AM
so i clicked on all the french names, but didn't find any born in france. it must have something to do with the Illuminati, the Rothschilds, the Priory of Sion, or perhaps even the freemasons . . . or, perhaps, aliens have been kidnapping the french zoopairmodels b/c they are truly out--of-this-world beautiful.

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-supermodels

edit: yup, casta is french . . . i thought she was italian for some reason.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 11, 2006, 10:50:41 AM
melissa theuriau . . . isn't she six feet tall?
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Deedee on August 11, 2006, 10:56:09 AM
so i clicked on all the french names, but didn't find any born in france. it must have something to do with the Illuminati, the Rothschilds, the Priory of Sion, or perhaps even the freemasons . . . or, perhaps, aliens have been kidnapping the french zoopairmodels b/c they are truly out--of-this-world beautiful.

Quelle folie! Mais, yew ahr zoo crayzee Al-Gebra, to make zee funny comme ca...

(Yes, I think she's very tall. Has a great voice too.)
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: bmacsys on August 11, 2006, 11:43:12 AM
sometimes i think france says things on purpose just to piss people off. they are well aware of our opinions of them. but it all doesnt matter- when all is said and done, they are our allies and friends just like always.

Allies don't cozy up to a regime like the one in Iran behind your back.
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: bmacsys on August 11, 2006, 11:46:14 AM
Laetitia Casta... and they also have exceptionally hot newscasters.



What a set of boobs on Letitia. She was too short to be a supermodel. She was a lingerie model for Victoria's Secrets
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: OzmO on August 11, 2006, 12:50:12 PM
Wups, apologise for my confusion between Nelson & Wellington.

Ozmo: Why use food as an argument in favour of France and then retract the statement only when you have been owned by factual evidence? 26% of the worlds top restaraunts are in Britain. Britain and American dominate the top 10 compared to France.

Nordic: 

Here's your top ten list you got your info from:

1  The Fat Duck, Bray, Berkshire, Britain
2  El Bulli, Montjoi, Spain
3  French Laundry, California
4  Tetsuya’s, Sydney, Australia
5  Gordon Ramsay, London, Britain
6  Pierre Gagnaire, Paris, France
7  Per Se, New York, New York
8  Tom Aikens, London, Britain
9  Jean Georges, New York, New York
10 St John, London, Britain


So let's take a look at what kind of food these restaraunts serve:


http://www.london-eating.co.uk/1801.htm (http://www.london-eating.co.uk/1801.htm)

The Fat Duck serves french Cuisine

http://www.london-eating.co.uk/17.htm (http://www.london-eating.co.uk/17.htm)

Gordon Ramsay, London, Britain  serves french Cuisine

http://www.london-eating.co.uk/3714.htm (http://www.london-eating.co.uk/3714.htm)

Tom Aikens, London, Britain serves french Cuisine

Only St John #10 serves British cuisine


Hmmm  how was the form on my back peddle?   ;D



Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Deedee on August 11, 2006, 01:08:04 PM

Hmmm  how was the form on my back peddle?   ;D


Pretty good.  :) 

Plus, everyone should try rognons blancs at least once this weekend.  :-X
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: OzmO on August 11, 2006, 01:14:59 PM
Pretty good.  :) 

Plus, everyone should try rognons blancs at least once this weekend.  :-X

what is that?  Everything on the web is in french.  Can i make it?
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2006, 01:21:20 PM
So the English are better at cooking French cuisine? Who gives a fuck about fucking cuisine anyhow, maybe a few guys here and there.

More importantly:

Who planted the seed for the modern world? AND WHO THE FUCK CREATED MODERN DAY AUSTRALIA?

Who's language are you conversing in? And what media channel are we communicating through? Oh shit that's right, the media channel is the WWW (thanks to Burners-Lee - yup... an Englishman) and it appears that we're conversing in ENGLISH!

You also appear to be using a computer... (modern day computer developed in Manchester England)

I don't suppose you like Rugby, Cricket or Football do yah? I can only ponder where they arose...

Seems that the most powerful country on Earth was founded by a few Englishmen. They speak English too, and their law system is based on English Law, they seem to be inventive like us too!

Who gave us the jet engine and the train? Where did the industrial revolution occur?

"One should know their role! Biatch!" - Queen Elizabeth II
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Deedee on August 11, 2006, 01:23:59 PM
what is that?  Everything on the web is in french.  Can i make it?

I believe you would call it "rocky mountain oysters." I personally wouldn't suggest it.  :P Nothing like a grilled chicken breast... :)
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: OzmO on August 11, 2006, 01:29:07 PM
So the English are better at cooking French cuisine? Who gives a f**k about fucking cuisine anyhow, maybe a few guys here and there.

More importantly:

Who planted the seed for the modern world? AND WHO THE f**k CREATED MODERN DAY AUSTRALIA?

Who's language are you conversing in? And what media channel are we communicating through? Oh shit that's right, the media channel is the WWW (thanks to Burners-Lee - yup... an Englishman) and it appears that we're conversing in ENGLISH!

You also appear to be using a computer... (modern day computer developed in Manchester England)

I don't suppose you like Rugby, Cricket or Football do yah? I can only ponder where they arose...

Seems that the most powerful country on Earth was founded by a few Englishmen. They speak English too, and their law system is based on English Law, they seem to be inventive like us too!

Who gave us the jet engine and the train? Where did the industrial revolution occur?

"One should know their role! Biatch!" - Queen Elizabeth II


Oh so now it's all that other stuff you just listed and not food?   ;D

You forgot about using rifles in combat... the brits were the first to do that...  That dumby Napoleon (other than that and Russia he was really brilliant)  banned the use of rifles in his army in the early 1800's.  Bad mistake for him.

Nice form on your back peddle not as good as mind though.   :P

I wonder if their is a way to find out what nationality the cooks are or WHERE they were trained.  But i don't have the time for that.... you should be thankful  ;D

anyways, 

I for one love the English.

I'm currently reading the Sharpe's book Series by Bernard Cornwell.  Read 15 of the 21 books already.  After that i plan to read the 22 book Master and Commander series.  And i've visited Enlgand and toured many of the cathedrals and the Tower of London...very cool stuff.

I'm American how could i not love my brother from a different mother?  I'm just not into her cooking.   ;D

Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: OzmO on August 11, 2006, 01:30:04 PM
I believe you would call it "rocky mountain oysters." I personally wouldn't suggest it.  :P Nothing like a grilled chicken breast... :)


Ick  ok thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2006, 01:30:37 PM
SHIT... i thought u was australian :'(
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Deedee on August 11, 2006, 01:31:26 PM
So the English are better at cooking French cuisine? Who gives a f**k about fucking cuisine anyhow, maybe a few guys here and there.

Well, you did a few posts ago.

Yes you created modern day Australia.  You sent all your convicts there when the English prisons were overrun, and somehow they managed under the harshest of conditions.

It's all about oil now... so you blame the French for at least trying to stick their fingers in the pie just a litte?
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2006, 01:37:20 PM
Well, you did a few posts ago.

Yes you created modern day Australia.  You sent all your convicts there when the English prisons were overrun, and somehow they managed under the harshest of conditions.

It's all about oil now... so you blame the French for at least trying to stick their fingers in the pie just a litte?

I don't even know why this fucking thread escalated in cuisine extremism... But the best FOOD is COOKED in BRITAIN.

Sure Australia was originally a penal colony but you are insulting the populous of Australia by assuming that's where the majority of them have ancestory.

One thing that i've just found on researching is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy

Pretty crazy this shit was in effect until 1982!
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: OzmO on August 11, 2006, 01:39:42 PM
I don't even know why this fucking thread escalated in cuisine extremism... But the best FOOD is COOKED in BRITAIN.


I agree... the best French food is cooked in Britian!
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Deedee on August 11, 2006, 01:50:54 PM
I don't even know why this fucking thread escalated in cuisine extremism... But the best FOOD is COOKED in BRITAIN.

Because you started it.  But true, the Brits rule as far as eating out goes these days.

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Sure Australia was originally a penal colony but you are insulting the populous of Australia by assuming that's where the majority of them have ancestory.

Well, you started that too, and I thought twice before I posted it, but then again, I'm from a Brit colony so I can say what I want  :)

Plus, you invented marmite, and so, well, you are ALL going to hell for that!
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: knny187 on August 11, 2006, 01:51:42 PM
Lol, you don't know many frenchwomen...

I don't know much about french fries either

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Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 11, 2006, 03:00:22 PM
Plus, you invented marmite, and so, well, you are ALL going to hell for that!

Haha marmite... damn that shit tastes... LIKE SHIT!

Must agree it's an abomination, what the fuck were we thinking?
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Deedee on August 11, 2006, 03:01:39 PM
I don't know much about french fries either

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Well aside from not good for you, better with mayo.  :)
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 11, 2006, 03:15:37 PM


It's all about oil now... so you blame the French for at least trying to stick their fingers in the pie just a litte?

i wouldn't stick my fingers in that pie for all the oil in the middle east . . .
Title: Re: Our allies, the French
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 11, 2006, 03:19:04 PM
i'd go see if canada'd let me stick my fingers in her pie . . . just a little, of course :-X