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"A comparison of peoples' views in 34 countries finds that the United States ranks near the bottom when it comes to public acceptance of evolution. Only Turkey ranked lower.
Among the factors contributing to America's low score are poor understanding of biology, especially genetics, the politicization of science and the literal interpretation of the Bible by a small but vocal group of American Christians, the researchers say.
“American Protestantism is more fundamentalist than anybody except perhaps the Islamic fundamentalist, which is why Turkey and we are so close,” said study co-author Jon Miller of Michigan State University.
The researchers combined data from public surveys on evolution collected from 32 European countries, the United States and Japan between 1985 and 2005. Adults in each country were asked whether they thought the statement “Human beings, as we know them, developed from earlier species of animals,” was true, false, or if they were unsure.
The study found that over the past 20 years:
The percentage of U.S. adults who accept evolution declined from 45 to 40 percent.
The percentage overtly rejecting evolution declined from 48 to 39 percent, however.
And the percentage of adults who were unsure increased, from 7 to 21 percent.
Of the other countries surveyed, only Turkey ranked lower, with about 25 percent of the population accepting evolution and 75 percent rejecting it. In Iceland, Denmark, Sweden and France, 80 percent or more of adults accepted evolution; in Japan, 78 percent of adults did.
Politics is also contributing to America's widespread confusion about evolution, the researchers say. Major political parties in the United States are more willing to make opposition to evolution a prominent part of their campaigns to garner conservative votes—something that does not happen in Europe or Japan."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060810/sc_space/uslagsworldingraspofgeneticsandacceptanceofevolution (http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060810/sc_space/uslagsworldingraspofgeneticsandacceptanceofevolution)
Please don't move this thread b/c this is a science article and doesn't belong in the religion area.
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America is dumb
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Here's the chart that shows the breakdown by country.
(http://www.livescience.com/images/060810_evo_rank_02.jpg)
What’s your genetic literacy score?
Author Ker Than
I wrote about a paper appearing in Science today that compares public acceptance of evolution in the United States versus other countries. As part of the study, the researchers reviewed surveys in which adults were given 10 True or False statements (listed below) to test their understanding of basic concepts from genetics.
Each correct answer was worth one point. The median score for American adults was 4. How do you fare? (**answers at bottom of post)
1. Ordinary tomatoes do not have genes, whereas genetically modified tomatoes do.
2. Genetically modified animals are always larger than ordinary animals.
3. Cloning is a form of reproduction in which offspring result from the union of sperm and egg.
4. Today it is not possible to transfer genes from humans to animals.
5. If someone eats a genetically modified fruit, there is a risk that a person’s genes might be modified too.
6. All plants and animals have DNA.
7. Today it is not possible to transfer genes from animals to plants.
8. Humans have somewhat less than half of the DNA in common with chimpanzees.
9.. It is possible to extract stem cells from human embryos without destroying the embryos.
10. All humans share exactly the same DNA.
**Use your mouse to highlight below to see the answers:
All statements are false except number 6.
My score: 9 out of 10
(I got #5 wrong at least according to this test, ...i'm still not taking any chances tho) :-\
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Okay, far too lazy to cut, paste, and properly format today... so I'll leave ya with links instead.
These are a series of 4 LiveScience Special Reports on Evolution & Intelligent Design
PART 1
An Ambiguous Assault on Evolution (http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/050922_ID_main.html)
This Trojan Horse for Creationism has become very popular. But who is being duped? And what does it all mean for morality?
PART 2
'The Death of Science' (http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050923_ID_science.html)
Intelligent design is presented as a legitimate scientific theory and an alternative to Darwinism, but a close look at the arguments shows they don't pass scientific muster. So why are scientists worried?
PART 3
Belief Posing as Theory (http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050926_ID_belief.html)
As evolution takes a beating, scientists remind us of the difference between fact, theory and belief.
PART 4:
Anti-evolution Attacks on the Rise (http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050927_ID_cases.html)
Each time the effort to introduce creationism into classrooms starts up again, so does legislation aimed against evolution. Learn about the rash of recent cases, plus a look at historically pertinent court cases.
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Did you know that some Americans are still naive enough to believe that this tower collapsed from fire "because it was so heavy"?
(http://www.waronfreedom.org/pix/wtc7-demolition.gif)
I mean, it's never happened in history, even from much larger fires. But some Americans are simple enough to believe it.
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America also has some of the SMARTEST people on the planet.
enter MIT
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America also has some of the SMARTEST people on the planet.
enter MIT
fuck MIT . . . their affirmative action policies have made them lose some of their lustre in my eyes. Caltech's where it's at.
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dunno what ya mean but their physics dept is the BEST around..bar none...
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Ban religion already. ;D
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Each correct answer was worth one point. The median score for American adults was 4. How do you fare? (**answers at bottom of post)
1. Ordinary tomatoes do not have genes, whereas genetically modified tomatoes do.
2. Genetically modified animals are always larger than ordinary animals.
3. Cloning is a form of reproduction in which offspring result from the union of sperm and egg.
4. Today it is not possible to transfer genes from humans to animals.
5. If someone eats a genetically modified fruit, there is a risk that a person’s genes might be modified too.
6. All plants and animals have DNA.
7. Today it is not possible to transfer genes from animals to plants.
8. Humans have somewhat less than half of the DNA in common with chimpanzees.
9.. It is possible to extract stem cells from human embryos without destroying the embryos.
10. All humans share exactly the same DNA.
**Use your mouse to highlight below to see the answers:
All statements are false except number 6.
My score: 9 out of 10
(I got #5 wrong at least according to this test, ...i'm still not taking any chances tho) :-\
Hoooooweeeeeeee! I got them all right although I guessed at a couple.
BTW, I still don't believe in evolution ;D
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America also has some of the SMARTEST people on the planet.
enter MIT
Agreed, we have the dumbest dumb shits and the smartest people on Earth in America.
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http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=23452
Nobel Prizes by Country from 1901 - 2002
1. United States - 261
2. United Kingdom - 79
3. Germany - 61
4. France - 28
5. Switzerland - 22
6. Sweden - 18
7. Russia - 11
8. Netherlands - 9
9. Denmark - 8
10. Japan - 7
Nobel Prizes by Country. Last 15 years Only
1. United States - 93
2. United Kingdom - 9
3. Germany - 8
4. France - 4
Japan - 4
Switzerland - 4
7. Canada - 2
8. Denmark - 1
Netherlands - 1
Norway - 1
Russia - 1
Sweden - 1
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impressive...
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how many of these nobel prizes were won by "true" (not naturalized) americans? e.g. albert einstein does not count.
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It's beautiful that so many people are willing to allow religion into schools.
Instead of keeping the religions a private matter, these groups wants education systems, political platforms et al to be influenced by 2000+ year old agendas.
Beautiful.
Oh brother.
YIP
Zack
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It's beautiful that so many people are willing to allow religion into schools.
Instead of keeping the religions a private matter, these groups wants education systems, political platforms et al to be influenced by 2000+ year old agendas.
Beautiful.
Oh brother.
YIP
Zack
What he said, its sad really. :(
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Okay, far too lazy to cut, paste, and properly format today... so I'll leave ya with links instead.
These are a series of 4 LiveScience Special Reports on Evolution & Intelligent Design
PART 1
An Ambiguous Assault on Evolution (http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/050922_ID_main.html)
This Trojan Horse for Creationism has become very popular. But who is being duped? And what does it all mean for morality?
PART 2
'The Death of Science' (http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050923_ID_science.html)
Intelligent design is presented as a legitimate scientific theory and an alternative to Darwinism, but a close look at the arguments shows they don't pass scientific muster. So why are scientists worried?
PART 3
Belief Posing as Theory (http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050926_ID_belief.html)
As evolution takes a beating, scientists remind us of the difference between fact, theory and belief.
PART 4:
Anti-evolution Attacks on the Rise (http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050927_ID_cases.html)
Each time the effort to introduce creationism into classrooms starts up again, so does legislation aimed against evolution. Learn about the rash of recent cases, plus a look at historically pertinent court cases.
::) ^^^
Pick an artical........
http://www.khouse.org/articles_cat/2006/technical/creation/
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how many of these nobel prizes were won by "true" (not naturalized) americans? e.g. albert einstein does not count.
maybe 10 %
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::) ^^^
Pick an artical........
http://www.khouse.org/articles_cat/2006/technical/creation/
Yea...That site is about as convincing as Clinton's apology after the Lewinsky scandal.
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Here's the chart that shows the breakdown by country.
(http://www.livescience.com/images/060810_evo_rank_02.jpg)
Hmm... Nordic countries seem to be fairing well ;D
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“You ever noticed how people who believe in Creationism look really unevolved? You ever noticed that? Eyes real close together, eyebrow ridges, big furry hands and feet. "I believe God created me in one day" Yeah, looks like He rushed it.”--Bill Hicks
(http://www.joelocalpt.com/relaxb.jpg)
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“You ever noticed how people who believe in Creationism look really unevolved? You ever noticed that? Eyes real close together, eyebrow ridges, big furry hands and feet. "I believe God created me in one day" Yeah, looks like He rushed it.”--Bill Hicks
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approximately 1 in a 1000 caltech grads has won a nobel prize . . .
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how many of these nobel prizes were won by "true" (not naturalized) americans? e.g. albert einstein does not count.
Read the Nobel website. The majority of those were won by natural-born Americans. Out of four multiple winners of the Nobel Prize, two were born in America (Linus Pauling and John Bardeen).
Einstein's prize didn't count towards the American total because he was still living in Germany.
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well, linus pauling's 2nd prize was for peace, so it wasn't really about science (responsible science, perhaps?)
he is also the only person to win two "undivided" Nobel prizes.
and he has a doctorate from Caltech.
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The number of Nobel prize winners doesn't mean the American public in general has a high IQ in science. It just means that America's top echelon of students happen to be smarter than the top echelon of other countries. However public in generals knowledge of science in America is incredibly low.
This top .0001% of Americans can't carry America. With the public at larges knowledge of science being that bad in America, You can only imagine the future consequences. I predict America won't be the leader in economics or science or anything else for that matter in the near future.
With countries like China and Japan and European countries so far ahead of America in scientific education, America can't afford absurd notions such as creationism to spread. The education the public of any country is I believe a matter of national security.
There is nothing which can better deserve our patronage than the promotion of science and literature. Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness.--George Washington
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Once again, if Americans are so dumb, then why are we producing more Nobel Prizes in science than every other country combined? The United States is THE dominant nation in science and technology. China and Japan are a joke when it comes to science. They're good at manufacturing and ripping off other people's ideas, but they suck at doing original research.
The education "crisis" in America is essentially a myth. We've got a lot of dumb blacks and Mexicans pulling everyone down, but white kids are up there with the rest of the industrialized world in terms of their science and math ability. It is pure foolishness to think otherwise.
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Once again, if Americans are so dumb, then why are we producing more Nobel Prizes in science than every other country combined? The United States is THE dominant nation in science and technology. China and Japan are a joke when it comes to science. They're good at manufacturing and ripping off other people's ideas, but they suck at doing original research.
The education "crisis" in America is essentially a myth. We've got a lot of dumb blacks and Mexicans pulling everyone down, but white kids are up there with the rest of the industrialized world in terms of their science and math ability. It is pure foolishness to think otherwise.
Are you saying the Japs aren't innovative?
Their mobile technology is always years ahead of the west. They lead in robotics and other such fields too plus they have the first petaflop supercomputer.
South Korea is also highly innovative, especially in computer memory and chip design.
I agree with you on China, but you sound like you're grouping Japan with them just because they both have slanty eyes!
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i'll say this..High school in the US suck ass....walking out of the brit system of schooling (O-levels..and NOT the gcse crap ) i could walk into any 300level college course at MD and breeze thru it..
kids have it wayyyyy too easy with the SAT...hell a pakistani kid in the 9th grade(O-levels) can prolly pass with flying colours :-\
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Agreed, we have the dumbest dumb shits and the smartest people on Earth in America.
Balance is what makes us great! ;D