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1  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Powerlifting / Strongman / Re: IPF: New and fewer weight cats from next year... on: November 14, 2010, 01:20:39 PM
I completely disagree with the increased competitiveness for the SHW's.  What this is doing is its skewing the IPF towards smaller lifters.   Do you reallly think its a fair competition for a 270 lb guy to compete against alifter like me (I"m probably 335 right now)?  Its not.   This is just further proof that the IPF favors lighter lifters who dont' lift the big weights. 

This is a direct result of the "Asian influence" on the IPF AND its a slap in the face of all of the old record holders.  Its also the IPF bending over to try to get something from the IOC.
2  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Refrigerate Fin Pellets? on: September 21, 2010, 09:22:27 AM
Thanks guys. 

I still lurke around here, but I'm not planning on posting much.  To be honest, I got tired of the GetBig bullshit.  The same run around day after day after day and some of the self professed "experts" combined with the idiots just got old.

I know the person who started this thread (or I'm pretty sure I do), thats why I answered the question. 
3  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Refrigerate Fin Pellets? on: September 18, 2010, 12:56:03 PM
You can keep them out of the refrigerator for short periods of time, but for long term storage, they really need to be kept refrigerated.

Those implants are designed so that the binding material breaks down when heated to body temperature thus releasing the hormones to be absorbed by the blood stream.  The lower the storage temperature of the implant (without freezing), the more stable the pellet, the more available hormone once its used.   If they are stored at a higher temperature the pellets will break down, and you will lose potency.  I've seen them literally melt to a glob when stored in the back of a vet truck through the summer when the refrigerator broke. 
4  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Powerlifting / Strongman / Re: Putting Mike Miller to shame... on: May 17, 2010, 03:51:03 PM
Billy, I understand what you are saying and I think i see your point, but in my opinion, its not even worth arguing like this.  Sitting behind a computer gives way too much power to too many individuals who have no clue but who think they are experts.  They want you to argue because it makes them feel good about themselves because in their world they are experts and they "showed you". 

I'm an SPF member.  You can also say I'm part of the "administration" of the SPF in a round about way.    I was one of the biggest critics of the Hoff incident--I tore that video apart digitally and have watched it too many times to count.  The only thing I can say is I'll be damned sure to watch him at every SPF meet I'm at where I know he's lifting.  I know without a doubt I'm not the only lifter that is going to be doing that. 

I also talked long and hard with Jesse and other federation higher ups about my opinion of what happened and what I thought of them rescending the initial suspension.  The thing that is so often missed with these online arguments is what really happened and why the suspension was overturned.   There was an incident that occured on the platform.  The suspension was set initially to allow inquirery into what happened.  There were 3 NATIONAL level judges from federations OTHER than the SPF who were on the platform for that meet.  They said they did not see anything on the day of the meet.  Because of that, the suspension that Hoff had had to be rescended.   

We cannot turn this sport into one where judging is allowed by dweebs with keyboards days after a meet.  That is one issue where a precident does not need to be set.  The decision of the judges on the platform stands at the close of the meet.  That was my understanding as to why Jesse rescended Hoff's suspension and everything that went with it.   This was also a collective decision of the SPF board of directors, not just Jesse Rodgers.  It had nothing to do with what Louie said.  It had everything to do with setting a precedent for the sport that has dire implications and it had everything to do with giving way too much power to individuals sitting behind a keyboard miles away from the meet.  We have three judges at a meet for a reason.  People need to realize it.   I don't agree with what happened based on how the video looks, but I cannot argue with the decision being made that the judges decision needs to be a final decision.   No one said anything until that video came out.   There were too many people at that meet to not have seen something if it did happen that way. 

If you notice, none of those judges have done an SPF meet since then either.   That says alot. 
5  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Powerlifting / Strongman / Re: How long before a 3000lb(+) total? on: February 19, 2010, 06:37:57 PM
Robert Wilkerson is the one lifter with a rock solid chance at getting the first 1000 lb squat in just a belt and knee wraps and he's also got a rock solid shot at 700+ RAW on the bench.

Unfortunately, he's not the best deadlifter with his build, but knowing him, I can see Big Rob going 1000+, 700+, 700 within the next few years. 
6  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Powerlifting / Strongman / Re: Set The Bar High 2009 on: October 28, 2009, 01:01:07 PM
Didn't quite make it to the point where I wanted to, but still finished the meet calendar year not too bad off...  other than my damned deadlifts...   

Best squat: 825   up 60 lbs from last years best meet squat (done in the gear and almost 9 lbs lighter)...

Best bench: 635  up 90 lbs from last years best bench.  (again done in the same bench shirt, but before I slimmed down a bit). 

Best deadlift: 530 ....  done in the meet I did with the damned torn calf.  This is down 15 lbs from my best meet deadlift.  Last meet I barely pulled 510.   Have been having alot of problems with my neck/trap area, have been told I may have a cervical disc lesion, so thats getting worked up next week...   gotta get the deadlift up. 

Best total: 1970... .again in the meet I did with the torn calf.    This is up 115 lbs from last years best meet total


Goals for next competition year:   get my shit straight and go over 2100 in single ply.   

Gotta get a new squat suit and bench shirt.  My Rage X is working on being 3 years old now and the TRX is over 2.  They are getting pretty stretched out/worn. 

I plan to get my neck/trap fixed over the next few weeks and we'll go from there.    The next meet is in the late spring 2010.   


The sky's the limit.   

7  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Powerlifting / Strongman / Re: The Thurmanator on: October 28, 2009, 12:52:49 PM

We have a joint next door who routinely serves 400 gram burgers - only $15.


(That's almost 1 lbs for all you metrically challenged yanks Grin)

thats not that uncommon around where I live.  theres a local cafe that serves doubles with burgers that weigh half a pound COOKED.   those things are freaking huge.  and good. 
8  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: fat control when using insulin on: October 28, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
on rxmuscle forums the mod on gear forum said: ''there is two quite old but rarely used drugs which even more effective for fat control when used with insulin. first is amrinon - phosphodiasterase 3 inhibitor (when PDE3 suppressed insulin unable to store any fat at all) and second is HCA.''  ... where can you get amrinon? otc or drug dealer? no results on google for that ... and is there a big difference between fat control on amrinon and hca? and have you guys ever used gh frags too for fat control before?

amrinone is a positive ionotrophic cardiac drug--- meaning it increases cardiac muscle cell calcium inflow, causing hte heart to basically beat harder and faster.  i dont' think its available in the US, but I'd have to check to be certian.   Most of the literature I've seen on it is coming from Germany or from German studies done in African megavertebrates.  Be careful with this stuff.  It can have effects similar to dobutamine...

HCA is the stuff that I think used to be in the original HYDROXYCUT from Garcinia cambogia.   I don't know if its available over the counter or not.   Im pretty sure it used to be in various forms.    I seem to remember seeing it as pure hydroxycitric acid in a vitamin store about 10 years ago....  it was in a blue bottle.   I will tell you I took alot of HCA containing supplements through the years.   I dont' think any of them worked.   
9  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: fat control when using insulin on: October 28, 2009, 12:31:41 PM
I don't buy it. You take a regular bodybuilder, have him eat 800-1000g of carbs per day along with his high protein diet, give him zero fat or at least very close to it, have all his carbs come from the right carb sources and he'll get fat, insulin or no insulin. Excess calories is simply that, excess fat.

fat is far more calorie dense than carbs.  so a relatively small amount of fat is more than twice the calories than the same number of grams of carbs...   
but that doesn't change the fact that excessive calories will be stored as fat. 
10  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: fat control when using insulin on: October 28, 2009, 12:27:39 PM
I'm not trying to pick on you tonight but again, this just isn't true.

Probably 99% of the guys on this board, if they started eating carbs like Jay Cutler does in the off-season they'd get fatter than all out side.


You are better off just not believing about 87% of what he posts about insulin or its effects on metabolism. 

Insulin will directly promote fat deposition through its effects on carbohydrate metabolism... it can also cause a localized fat deposition.  this is why you see diabetics develop "fat pads" in the region they inject insulin.  Unfortunately those fatty tissue accumulations can further inhibit insulin absorption, making them worse.   Thats why years ago diabetics were told to rotate insulin injection sites, to prevent this from happening. 
11  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: long acting insulin for bodybuilding on: September 29, 2009, 10:54:39 PM
insulin, whether your insulin resistant or metabolicly healthy, is an anabolic hormone. yes it makes sense to use insulin to cure steroid caused insulin resistance, but so does spiking insulin in an insulin sensitive enviroment.

cortisol- mainly lipolytic hormone, in a hypocaloric state its can have catabolic effects if protein is inadequate. one thing your forgetting is that insulin release inhibits cortisol release, and also that even if cortisol is released, the anti corticoid effect of all steroids is tremendously effective at keeping cortisol minimal, even in the harshet of enviroments

glucagon- yes it does stimulat glucose to be released from glycogen stores, however in a high insulin high carbohydrate environment, glucagon will never result in glycogen depletion. insulin inhibits it from happeining, as well as all AAS (to a smaller degree than insulin albeit).

 injecting insulin doesnt make any sense at all, if its impossible to get insulin levels higher than what is possible physiologically. but when you can get insuli artifcially elevated to levels beyond what the body could do on its own, then insulin use is advantageous.

And you are way off base with the function of cortisol.  You need to think about that a bit too.    Remember, the blood glucose elevating effects of cortisol is strongly a result of amino acid degredation.  You don't really want that if you are trying to have an anabolic state. 
12  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: long acting insulin for bodybuilding on: September 29, 2009, 10:50:27 PM
insulin, whether your insulin resistant or metabolicly healthy, is an anabolic hormone. yes it makes sense to use insulin to cure steroid caused insulin resistance, but so does spiking insulin in an insulin sensitive enviroment.

cortisol- mainly lipolytic hormone, in a hypocaloric state its can have catabolic effects if protein is inadequate. one thing your forgetting is that insulin release inhibits cortisol release, and also that even if cortisol is released, the anti corticoid effect of all steroids is tremendously effective at keeping cortisol minimal, even in the harshet of enviroments

glucagon- yes it does stimulat glucose to be released from glycogen stores, however in a high insulin high carbohydrate environment, glucagon will never result in glycogen depletion. insulin inhibits it from happeining, as well as all AAS (to a smaller degree than insulin albeit).

 injecting insulin doesnt make any sense at all, if its impossible to get insulin levels higher than what is possible physiologically. but when you can get insuli artifcially elevated to levels beyond what the body could do on its own, then insulin use is advantageous.

So you are now saying glucagon doesn't cause glycogenolysis?     You probably ought to review that process a bit.   

You are now contradicting yourself.    If you artificially elevate insulin levels to a supraphysiologic state, blood glucose will fall.  When blood glucose levels fall, the body tries to maintain homeostasis and secretes counterregulatory hormones to maintain normal glucose levels.    You keep forgetting this.    Why?
13  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: long acting insulin for bodybuilding on: September 29, 2009, 10:14:42 PM
in your first sentence of the above paragraph you stress the point that insulin has many functions..("you focus on only one single function..")... exactly what im syaing... while the body has counter regulatory hormones to insulin to prevent hypoglycemia, those counter regulatory hormones are not going to be able to stop insulin from transmitting its messages wich are pro-anabolic.

 many of these counter regulaory hormones actually will aid in anabolism, rather than negate insulins anabolic effects.  for exapmle, gh release in a hypercaloric state (like when using insulin) is VERY anabolic. and gh is oone of the counter regulatory hormones that keep hypoglycemia from occuring.

Why are you trying to pick a fight?  I commented that I don't think something would work the way you think it would work and you are bordering on going off the deep end.   This isn't a personal attack, this is scientific facts.   If it was a personal attack I'd be calling you the dumbfuck you obviously are.  I'm not. 

Once again you are focusing on a very small part of a bigger picture.  Hypoglycemia causes the release of glucagon, somatostatin, cortisole, epinephrine, and GH among other hormones.  Since when was severe glycogen depletion caused by glucagon anabolic?  Since when was cortisol anabolic?  I think we can all agree thats considered an extremely catabolic hormone.  Since when was somatostatin anabolic?  Somatostatin directly inhibits insulin secretion, suppresses gastric emptying (read decreases nutrient absorption) and inhibits GH release.   Since when was an adrenalin surge anabolic?    Again you are focusing on one small piece of a much more complex puzzle.    You need to think about the big picture, not focus on minutia you apparently barely understand.   

The effects you keep quoting are not the isolated effects of insulin by itself.   You have to consider the other drugs the indivudals you are idolizing are taking.  Insulin to combat a drug induced insulin resistance makes sense to a degree.  Injecting insulin by itself does not.   The counterregulatory hormone effects cannot be ignored. 
14  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: long acting insulin for bodybuilding on: September 28, 2009, 09:10:59 PM
the metabolic effcets of isulin aqnd the reaosn insulin is released is to control blood glucose.

just like the reaosn gh is released is to control blood glucose.

however insulin, like gh, has other effects (besides controlling blood glucose) as well.

its complex, as you admit, but you seem to be thinking that only one of the several complex effects actually matter. but they all matter and they all have actions.  reducing protein demand and protien breakdown, increasing protein synthesis, and keeping cells hydrated and packed with energy are all effects of insulin. and also, all effects that will spur anabolism.

how sweet, right?


your quite obtuse for someone so sharp


Hard to admit you don't have a clue what you are talking about isn't it?     There was no reason to throw out insults.  You start doing that and I'm done with you. 

We've been through this before, you focus only on one single function of a hormone that has a complex interaction in the body----with the primary function of regulating blood glucose levels.   I don't know why that is so hard for you to comprehend, but it sure seems to be so.    Not only that, but insulin is a hormone that has finely regulated counter regulatory hormones---something that you also seem to forget or completely ignore. 
15  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: humalog lasts only 28 days? on: September 28, 2009, 04:06:46 PM
I've never had a bottle of Lantus or Humalog open for longer than 28 days.  I dont' know. 


i will say that lantus seems to be very heat sensitive. 

16  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Endocrinology on: September 28, 2009, 04:04:15 PM
i didnt say eyeball the insulin. and you nknow that is not what i meant. in referance to carbohydrate intazke, not a single diabetic on the planet is measuring out 10grams for every iu injected. they just have a set dose for small meals and big meals. you have said this before about yourself.

in bodybuilding, you cant always g by science. in the 70's the scientific world thought that steroids didnt do anything but placebo. and if you wanted to go only by science, then at that time youd have to have not used roids. but if you looked at all the big guys, you could tell through anecdote that yes stteroids were effective.

as with insulin, at the moment there is no science behind why it works, but the real world results say ti does.


um, no, there are a bunch of people claiming it works and a bunch of people jumping on the bandwagon---again see my horseshit example.   
17  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: long acting insulin for bodybuilding on: September 28, 2009, 04:01:05 PM
first off- yes, bodybuilder are insuiln resistant. your right, thi could be a reaosn why ti works. steroids and gh and other durgs all cause this. and everybodybuilder uses those drugs. so for the purpouse of our discussion, everybody has insulin resistance.

sceondly- homrones that boost blood glucose will counter the blood glucose lowering effects of inisulin. but they cant do anythign to stop insulin from binding to insulin receptors and igf1 receptors and helping spur anabolism.

um, no.   The effects of insulin are not a result of it binding to a receptor, its a result of signal transduction---in other words the cellular effects are dependant upon insulin binding to its receptor, activation of cellular mechanisms with the ultimate goal of allowing glucose to enter the cell. You have lower than normal blood glucose levels, you are going to shut down those mechanisms becuase the bodies ultimate goal isn't building muscle, its providing fuel for the brain--in other words, regulating blood glucose levels.  Its a complex process, but its actually pretty simple if you think about it.   
18  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Endocrinology on: September 28, 2009, 03:01:23 PM
Sure, but there's more to insulin sensitivity than BF percentage. I think competitive bodybuilders are pretty damn insulin resistant, especially when contest lean. I just don't think hammering the system with even more insulin is a way to increase sensitivity. If you found a way to reduce the amount of total insulin circulating in the body by using exogenous insulin, then maybe I could see it.



I agree.
19  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Endocrinology on: September 28, 2009, 02:58:38 PM
to the above posters talking about hypoglycemia and no dabetics.  insulin works pretty much the same in type 1 and non diabetics. and if you use your humalog the same way as insulin dependant diabetics do, youll get the same action(s).  there really isnt a need to get super focused with your insulin and carb itnakes. you can do like a diabetic, and just eyeball the carbs for the insulin doseage. the body isnt a calculator. 
Um, yes it is.  A truely well controlled diabetic CALCULATES the amount of insulin they need, they don't "eyeball it" like you claim they do.   Many people are using insulin pumps now days, which will automatically calculate it for that person---based on their activity levels, their blood glucose levels, and the carbs in the meal.  Eyeballing it is stupid in my opinion. 

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i dont think its counter rpoductive, and based on all the anecdotal evidence of bodybuilders using humalog and geting results, there must be something to it. what is that something? i am not sure.

And with that you have shifted from science into the world of placebo results.  I guarantee you that I could take horseshit, put it in capsule form and get 10 or 20 top level bodybuilders to endorse it on message boards along with 2 or 3 pros, and it would be the hottest supplement on the market.   Thats a bullshit answer and really shows how naive you are. 




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20  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: long acting insulin for bodybuilding on: September 28, 2009, 02:53:50 PM
your right, in the sense that the body will adjust to it with "anti isulin" effects.

however, these are anti insulin i their effects on blood glucose levels. but there wont be any decrease in the effect of the bolus insulin on muscle anabolism.

Uh?  yes it will.  Insulin is not a "selective" hormone like you are trying to imply it is.   

Basically you are trying to describe a ferret with an insulinoma--ie a mammal with a persistantly elevated insulin level.  In the case of the bodybuilders you are talking about they are injecting the insulin, in the case of a ferret, its due to a pancreatic tumor.  I'll tell you i've treated 100's of ferrets with insulinomas (pancreatic insulin secreting tumors) and not one time has there been one with increased muscle mass because of the insulin causing muscle anabolism.  Virtually every one will progress to muscle wasting (possibly with a pot gut) as a result of the counterregulatory hormones due to their insulin secreting tumor and chronic subnormal glucose levels--levels that may not be sufficient to cause a hypoglycemic coma, but subnormal.   Insulin controls blood glucose by allowing cells of the skeletal muscle, liver, and fat tissue to take up glucose, storing it as fat in fat cells and stoping the synthesis of glycogen in muscle and liver cells.   When this uptake is decreased (IE there is a decreased insulin effect or insulin "resistance") you will also see a concurrent decrease in the uptake of amino acids--the exact opposite effect from what is trying to be done.   You will have an initial secretion of GH as blood glucose levels are decreased by the supraphysiologic amounts present, but that will be replaced by cortisol with persistant elevated insulin effects.  You won't see a "selective" effect. 

The only place I can think of where this may result in an anabolic response would be if there is concurrent GH use.  Remember, GH is an insulin antagonist.  If someone is taking exogenous GH, they are at risk of developing insulin resistance--possibly to the point of Type II diabetes.  The exogenous insulin is basically supplementing what the GH is suppressing.   

21  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: long acting insulin for bodybuilding on: September 27, 2009, 10:28:25 PM
i am aware that humans always have a basal level of insulin in their body. the idea here is to gt it elevated at supraphysiological levels all day long.


I don't think that would work.  Supraphysiological levels means there will always be insulin acting to decrease blood glucose levels.  The body will attempt to compensate as soon as blood glucose levels drop to that individuals physiologic minimum.    This means release of other hormones that have an anti-insulin effect.  In other words, they basically act to increase insulin resistance in order to maintain normal blood glucose levels. 
22  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Endocrinology on: September 27, 2009, 10:20:24 PM
As soon as I feel the onset of hypoglycemia, I ingest a small amount of carbs. What's wrong with that? The amount of carbs I consume is in alignment with what I need, otherwise I would still go hypoglycemic. And have I died of diabetic coma yet? No. I'm perfectly fine. And that's because anytime I did feel hypo, I had the perfect amount of carbs or consumed more carbs until everything was squared away.

You're taking what I said out of context and blowing it up at mass proportions. You're a fucking idiot. You know it, WillGrant. You're getting owned by the handsome Filipino book work. Are you melting down in real life too? Smiley

How about the fact that if you, as a nondiabetic, can feel the onset of hypoglycemia you have exhausted your bodies initial compensatory mechanisms---  you have a "shakey weak" feeling becuase of epinephrine release, which acts to mobilize stored glycogen (read glycogen depletion).   

If you eat a complex carbohydrate meal, you are looking at 10-20 minutes before you see an appreciable increase in blood glucose.   This means several minutes of glycogen depletion.  It also means secretion of other "hypoglycemic" hormones including cortisol.   There will also be some GH secretion, but I sure wouldn't bank on that leading to significant muscle gains. 

So lets say you eat a simple carbohydrate meal?  Unless you have things precisely measured--which will be dependant on a multitude of factors, your blood glucose will go up to normal, the body will begin replenishing glycogen(remember glycogen replenishment isn't an instantaneous phenomena), and then store any extra as FAT.   Consuming more carbs without measuring your blood glucose is not exactly smart.  Not only that you stand a big chance of yo-yoing your blood glucose levels, which will lead to decreased athletic performance.   I will tell you as a diabetic powerlifter, hypoglycemia within 2 days of a meet is a guarantee to not break PR's.  You may "feel" fine, but your optimal performance will be decreased.   

Why do pro-bodybuilders get by with insulin?  Personally, I think its becuase they may actually need it.  They literally induce a type II diabetes with GH and other drug use.  If you aren't using those drugs, you are potentially playing with fire.  At a minimum you are potentially screwing athletic performance/training. 
23  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Powerlifting / Strongman / Re: Set The Bar High 2009 on: June 23, 2009, 03:49:14 PM
I'm thinking really really hard about doing Worlds in October.  Calf rehab is going well.  I've more than 12 weeks to get ready...

I have one more week of "conditioning" before I'm back at it hard. 


Goals: squat 865, Bench 665, deadlift: 585, total 2100+ @ SHW.    Grin
24  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Pet Board / Re: Which Breed of Dog is Most Aggressive? on: June 05, 2009, 07:39:49 AM
Here we go with the dog aggression stuff again, lol.

This topic is so deep that it cannot be deemed "X breed is aggressive" from a study.  They ASKED people about their dogs.  Few huge problems.

1)  By and large dog owners do not train their dogs and the dogs are a mess no matter the breed.
2)  Define aggression, because there is a ton of diff ways to look at behavior and the reason for them
3)  I have argued with people about this topic a million times over, and I am not going to do so again, but just briefly...no dog is born aggressive.  If ANY of those breeds truly are aggressive, it is because someone either made them that way or fucked up so royally in their socialization and lack of training that they became aggressive.

People that own toy breeds are much less likely in my opinion to pay any serious attention to their training because they aren't a physical threat.  NORMALLY owners of large, powerful breeds know a lot more about dogs (and their own dog) than those who have dogs under 50lbs.  I know this is a weird rationalization but I believe its true.  In peoples minds, they could have a crazy ass chihuahua who tried to attack everyone, but lets face it, a Chihuahua isn't gonna kill anyone.  People realize this.  If it is a German Shepherd, the situation is reversed and normally people are more responsible.  Alot of the toy breeds in my obedience class are brilliant, but at home and with strangers there are issues.  The opposite is the case with the Goldens/Rotties/GSD's/Collie's, etc.

All this shows is the answers to a bunch of questions U Penn asked dog owners.  And FYI, I've been to U Penn's hospital 3 separate times for when my dog was a puppy, and he saw a dentist there 3x.  They are wonderful there, but this whole thing is blah.

PS-  My favorite part is:

"According to the Telegraph, the Rottweiler, which is widely believed to be an aggressive dog, scored average to below average ratings for its hostility toward strangers."

People are so intelligent.  That study is stupid.


The other thing you are forgetting is the prdisposition for people to make excuses for and laugh at aggressive little dogs, but freak out at a big dog, no matter what breed and no matter if its aggressive or not.       
25  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Powerlifting / Strongman / Re: Neck injury? on: June 04, 2009, 10:33:24 PM
Has anybody every heard of hurting your neck, deadlifting?? I did my previous max deadlift for 3 reps
 ( NEW PR)  Grin Tue evening. Yesterday had  slight soreness kinda along the right side/ back of neck. First thought was just a stiff neck like from sleeping wrong. Today it's pretty painful! It's ok if i'm still  but to move my head to the right or down YIKES! still thinking stiff neck, but did think about my last workout pretty taxing! If it matters I lift Sumo with my left hand overgrip right hand undergrip.
Just wondering if anybody had hurt there neck deadlifting ,or knows of anybody who has.

Thanks,

John

Yes, my wife has and so has one of our training partners.    It seems as if the neck pain occurs in one of two ways---from clenching your jaws really hard and trying to arch your head back (typically this is more in the front or side of the neck) or muscular strain from your traps/back. (this is more in the back of the neck, up from the traps).   
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