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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath on: October 13, 2006, 09:55:53 AM
Thorzhammer is right, I accidently posted photos from Phil's second show.

Here he is at his first show...straight off the basketball court (credit to LiftStudios for the pics):

2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath on: October 12, 2006, 11:57:37 PM
Now, besides the differences in condition, size and posing.....do you see why Phil has better genetics than you as far as BBing goes?

I think you two are probably not too far apart in these pics, bodyweight wise. Phil is a lot shorter than you. He's 5'9" and you look to be 6'5".
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath on: October 12, 2006, 11:56:14 PM
It doesn't "amaze" you? So you're saying you don't think Phil looks awesome, esp for a first time BBer here?

How do you explain these then? Phil's first show, not trying 100% VS. TA trying his best








4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath on: October 12, 2006, 11:17:36 PM
That doesn`t amaze me.

Nobody should have to diet at all to be ripped.  I will show you how easy it is to remain at 5 percent and under and still gain muscle.

People think its some sort of feat, ANYBODY can do it, natural or not.

We've seen you diet....it's the gain muscle part we're all waiting for. Of course, for it to be valid you'll need a high quality scan, like a DEXA to prove it (beginning and ending points).
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath on: October 12, 2006, 10:58:17 PM
with wider lats he will destroy Dexter at the ASC  Shocked

If you look at Dexters lats, they are high and don't look as good as Phil's did at the CO and NY shows. Now that Phil has added 20lbs or more I think he'll kill Dexter by a landslide.
6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath on: October 12, 2006, 10:56:52 PM
Amazing how the Homos who get behind him are the ones spreading the myths and Lies.

Phil said it himself, that if you believe the bullshit about you in the magazines and relax, then you are finished.


I am sure the same thing applies with these liars who want to make Phil into something he never claimed to be.

What the fuck are you talking about?
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath on: October 12, 2006, 10:56:16 PM
agree, I call BS on the not dieting too

Phil has great genetics but he isn't superman

He played basketball and was naturally pretty lean. First time I ever saw him around he already had striated tris. He may have "dieted" for this contest but from what I remember him telling me it wasn't a "bodybuilding" diet. I think he only prepped for 4 weeks or something.

If you guys lived here you'd be as amazed as the rest of us.
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath on: October 12, 2006, 01:08:28 PM
If those are pictures of Phil natural or even moderately clean - much respect.  I think he has such a great structure that any amount of muscle looks awesome on him.  He could be skinny and still look shapely and tapered.

It is....I've been around the game for quite a while and you learn to spot people like Phil. They are few and far between. Although we've had a lot of good talent coming out of Colorado, as far as male BBers go, I have never said to myself "That guy will be a pro in no time" .....until I saw Phil.
9  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath on: October 12, 2006, 12:56:51 PM
I don't know about anyone else but I wouldn't mind having Phil's muscle and symmetry as mine after I had been lifting for years and years. To have that to start off with is pure genetics and a huge gift from God...thus, the nickname "TheGift". Remember, people around Colorado gave Phil that name....he didn't name himself.  Grin
10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath on: October 12, 2006, 12:53:55 PM
Here you go MattC. Here is what Phil looked like before he knew anything about Bodybuilding. Phil, correct me if I'm wrong but this was your FIRST show from what I remember. I also remember you telling me that you didn't diet at all for this show....but you can give us the specifics. Credit to Isaac (LiftStudios) for the pics.....




Phil won his class but lost to this guy in the overall:







11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath on: October 11, 2006, 03:57:21 PM
TA - Why do you think Bodybuilding needs to be the first to clean up it's act? We're a small population. Wouldn't it better if baseball, basketball, football, track and field and other olympic sports cleaned up first? They are viewed by a lot more people worldwide than bodybuilding. If we did clean up bodybuilding a few things would happen: No one would notice (because BBing isn't mainstream), attendance at shows would be down immensely (how often have you seen more than 1000 people at a local show? Wait....you've probably never been to a show so you wouldn't know) and the "sport" would shrink and die. All we would have left would be these boards and a few underground mags.

If you think that by cleaning up BBing that it will help the "sport" then you're mistaken. I do agree that the drug freaks don't hold a candle compared to someone like Phil, physique wise. People need to realized that it's not just about the drugs. They can be a tool but shouldn't be the main factor when building a better body.

Not to cut on you but if everyone looked like you at the shows I go to....I would stop going. Why? Because I have friends that look like that and I lift in a gym filled with folks that look like that. Why pay to see the exact same thing I'm around everyday? Put it this way: If you had a fat and ugly girlfriend would you pay to see the exact same thing at a strip club? No....you wanna see something better.
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath on: October 11, 2006, 11:24:21 AM
Phil was larger, leaner and had better lines/ symmetry than most on this board when he was natural and barely lifting. At first it pissed me off but why hate a guy if he's gifted in a certain area. The sky is limit for Phil, not just because of his physique but also for the person he is.

Anyone who doesn't like Phil should go meet him in person and see if your ideas about him change.
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: GUESS WHO 4-16-2006... on: September 22, 2006, 11:28:35 PM
That's not even high 20's....I was 29% when I started my diet and I was a LOT fatter than that. My guess would be 20%-18%.
14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Edson Prado: Judged unfairly on: August 14, 2006, 03:17:50 PM
No, he was judged fairly. I was sitting right up front during the Colorado Pro show. Edson is a FREAK but if you look at his arms/ delts/ chest they all run together. It's like they are 1 huge continuous muscle. When you have a guy like that who is hard as nails but looks that way in a certain area you have to start thinking about oil abuse.
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Alan Ichinose on: August 11, 2006, 08:44:29 AM
Eugene, glad you could make it over. I told you about all of this trash talk going on over here.

Keith, Eugene knows you....ask him some questions. BTW...Eugene has his pic on the wall at I Love Country Cafe, it's all he ever talks to me about! Ha ha!

Spider out....
16  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Flex .vs. The Gift( Rookie Season) on: July 25, 2006, 03:11:34 PM
This is hilarious...someone with a turkey neck like TA giving Phil a hard time...that's laughable. I have seen guys like TA clammer on and on about certain bodybuilders only to reveal in the near future that they are gay. Don't sweat it TA...so what? So you jack off to Phil's pics....no one is hating on you man. You go girl.

I have judged Phil on the NPC level and have seen him around at the shows and at my gym. Phil and I have talked a lot. I won't get into any info here but lets say he probably takes less "supps" than TA.

When Phil first decided to compete he knew nothing about competing in BBing. Phil, you dieted for liek 4 weeks or something for your first show, right? He was striated and pretty big...nothing close to what he is now but he made TA look like Sally Struthers in size and condition.

Give up TA...
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Colorado Pro Review by Shawn Ray! on: May 18, 2006, 04:04:46 PM
the judges were


   gary udit, albert beckels, rich gaspari, jim manion[headjudge] steve weinberger, and a gentleman i dont  know of..  practically all of them have competed in high level bbing shows them selves 2 are former pros..


     Derik
   

Derik's right, the other guy was Ernest. Forgot his last name but he's like 5 feet wide and 7 feet tal. He's a giant! There were also 2 women judges from what I remember but I didn't talk to them.

I did talk to Albert after the show and had no clue who he was, til we waked away and I mentioned to my friend that I thought it was Albert Beckles that we were just talking to.

Good stuff!

PS: I got a copy of the scoresheets too...
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Colorado Pro/Am Classic report (pics included)/Results/Reports & Predictions on: May 17, 2006, 03:13:42 PM
DAMN!!! Nice one Sgt!  Shocked

I salute you!
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Colorado Pro/Am Classic report (pics included)/Results/Reports & Predictions on: May 17, 2006, 12:23:29 PM
I have no "Judge-itis" as you imply. I'm just trying to call you on most of your delusional BS. I have no aspirations of being a Pro judge ever, not even a National level judge. I'm happy where I'm at. I like to help people and that's what I do.

BTW, you sound more bitter than the chick from "Fatal Attraction". What's with that?
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Colorado Pro/Am Classic report (pics included)/Results/Reports & Predictions on: May 17, 2006, 09:51:27 AM
I don't think Gary looked that bad in person, as far as the red face goes. He did need to work on his posing, back and left shoulder though.

I thought he looked rather healthy.
21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Colorado Pro/Am Classic report (pics included)/Results/Reports & Predictions on: May 17, 2006, 09:47:26 AM
What are you rolling your eyes at?  Roll Eyes
22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Colorado Pro/Am Classic report (pics included)/Results/Reports & Predictions on: May 17, 2006, 09:10:04 AM
Ha ha! Whatever dude. My head was right in front of the camera for the online feed. I don't care what you think.

Anyway, I think it's funny that YOU think we need any help from you. We have a strong Military presence in the local CO BBing scene. One of our largest shows is a Military type BBing show and has a ton of talent. We're already "in" with the Military people here in CO.

When we need help in getting out of shape, or for putting on a competitive eating contest, we'll call you.  Grin

In all seriousness, if you're ever out in CO give me a PM and I'll hook you up with front row tickets as that is one of the perks in being a Judge. That way you can actually see what the judges are seeing instead of what you think you see sitting 100 feet back.
23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Colorado Pro/Am Classic report (pics included)/Results/Reports & Predictions on: May 15, 2006, 12:45:39 PM
That's funny dude...you're trying to make me look like I'm stupid, yet you can barely spell. Keep on keeping on. Stickman...ha!

I'm full of crap...yeah, I sure am tough guy. Ha ha! I'm an NPC judge and we sat up front and interacted with the IFBB Pro judges all weekend.

If you want to know anything about the judges just ask. I am not biased one bit and will tell you the truth. Unfortunately, you won't believe anything I say anyway. Nice work on the "Military" presence at the event too...great job!  Roll Eyes
24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Colorado Pro Prejudging - Reports & Predictions on: May 15, 2006, 08:57:21 AM
It always amazes me how long it takes for scores to be added.  The longer it takes the more it looks like the judging is fixed.  What amazes me is how much this show from the start had Heath winning.  How many times did Chic say something about Heath winning or something to the affect there is no way he is going to lose.  When it takes that long to count the judging it looks more and more like maybe Heath didn't win but he is theone they wanted to win.  Who knows, theIFBB has been shady about judging for a long time, so nothing would be surprising.

Dude, you should stop flapping your gums. You weren't there so you know nothing. I was able to speak to most of the judging panel and Darrem was the favorite to win. I didn't hear any of the judges talking much about Phil in the morning. In fact, I even heard the phrase "he needs to pay his dues" thrown around at some point, not sure if it was the judges saying that or not but I heard it from someone up in that area. If there was a "fix" then Darrem would have won.

Sorry to distract you. You can go eat your tub of ice cream now, fat boy.  Grin
25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Shawn Ray hits the local media scene (PICS & Audio on page 2) on: May 11, 2006, 11:56:07 AM
The radio show was pretty funny. How did you like Louis and Floorwax Shawn?
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