And Carol Kaye played Brian Wilsons bass parts.

Matt had a balanced body, struggled to get cut. Jeff did not have the balance that Matt had.

PKAZ- any training info? I was at the Santa Monica World at that time, perhaps just different times of the day. I used to come in during the late afternoon after work. Loved the springy bars on the close set bench presses, as well as the back patio, I remember using the squat rack on the far right on the patio and being able to see the ocean through the apartments. A great time.

Tough to beat those first 2 photos. Need more info.

just a different era in bodybuilding, both aesthetically and chemically

I remember training at his gym in, the old World Gym in Panorama City. He used very moderate weights with what seemed like 15 - 20 reps per set, it also seemed like he used about the same weight through out all of the sets of a particular exercise. I wish I could remember more about his training.

Vince Gironda exercises from 40 years ago

What is muscle dysmorphia?

Stuntmovie, thanks for all the great memories. Do you recall the name of the bar on Ventura blvd that some of the stuntmen owned? or where it was. Thanks.

Tommy Kono?

RIP Keith, thanks Stunt for the info, I was at the first World that that Keith mentioned training at.  He was strong and there probably will never be a period of time/ gym camraderie like there was then. Santa Monica and the spirit that existed in the gyms was incredible and alot of fun.

Poo particles stuck to your shirt? Are those mud monkeys flying around in your can?

Not bad looking, just trained hard and was very strong.

OH, and by the way I am white, as was any one else that I knew that trained with Bertil during the 80's and early 90's.

You people talk a lot of shit for never having known him or trained during that era. And yes I know him and trained with him. Judge not lest yee be judged. Let the first one amongst you who has not sinned cast the first stone. I'm not saying what might have happened was right, but if you read the Bible you know that it is not ours to judge.

Gary who?.... Leonard?

Chuck Collras sure seems to have a very solid physique in all those pictures, some through different eras.

Don Howorth looks phenominal in those photos. Wide, great sholders and such a small waist. Between Vince's and Joe Golds gym, it looks like it was a great era for bodybuilding.

The store around the corner is Urban Fitness,I think.

What happened to Vern Weaver?

Thank you Matt, something positive from you about Bertil. By the way, standing next to him in a bar one time probably doesn't make you an expert on his height Big Al. Nice try though.

Venice Beach regular- Bill Pettis. I think he has been somewhat displaced since World Gym closed up. I knew Don Peters because I trained at his gym, and would talk to him.

Don Peters, I think he was a film editor and a gym owner. He won some over 40 shows in the 80's as well as Mr International and Mr. Western America.  I have no clue as to what his habit was that pissed his friends off. I trained at his gym for a few years before he sold it to Golds.

My wife and I use about a tablespoon of it mixed with about 2 oz. of water at each meal. It burns a little bit going down but has completely erased any heartburn or indigestion issues we had previously. Properly digesting your food means that you are making the nutrients more available to you.

Just guessing on the females,- Lisa Lyon or Pillow?