I'm not alluding to that, and I'm not talking about you moving there.  Criticise from the sweet air of freedom. These men are scum and should be called out as such.

What is teh funny here:

In other words, if your statement holds true, moving to an Arabic state must have pretty huge benefits for the individual to justify moving there.

You don't have a right to tell them that's wrong when in Saudi Arabia.  That's because they would execute you for not being Islamic.  Where you are right now, you can, and you should.

middle class is dissapearing?

where do you get this rubbish.  more people own their own homes today (% and total)  than ever before.  more people have college education then ever before. middle class is doing just fine

Well, you don't have to respect their beliefs at all, even if nothing can be done about it. But as a wise person once said, "the west has every right to defend her hardwon right of equality." This behavior doesn't have to be condoned in the west, just because it belongs to a culture that encourages the abuse of women in other, less enlightened countries.

Edit: I was paraphrasing. The correct quote is... "The West has every right to defend its character, including its hard-won principle of equality."

Mortgage interest and child deductions help me too, but I still pay through the nose.  It sucks.   

Yes, we agree on how the government wastes our hard earned money.  I am in favor of either abolishing the IRS or significantly changing how we deal with taxes. 

I was talking to someone from Wyoming a while back.  He said they don't have any state income taxes.  Oregon and Texas are the same way.  And yet their governments survive.  I am hoping someone like Steve Forbes comes along again reinvigorates the tax discussion.  It's really a burden.   

Nobody here knows for sure if it's 30 years, or 300 years.

You're both just quoting experts motivated by caution (30 years' destruction!) or corporate greed (nothing is wrong!)

And, you're probably both doing it based upon your party affiliation. 

Yes, very much so.  I have very strong feelings about this, in fact.

Yes you're right, and women in general have more to fear in their daily lives than men do. As far as spousal violence goes, it transcends many societal factors... rich, poor, ethnicity, etc... abused women are found in every walk of life. This particular case is a little more specific. A few crude examples would be: if I read that a murdering rapist was loose in my town, I'd worry.  If I heard only blonde women were targeted, I'd be 100 times more worried. Men pulverize each other in bars every weekend. If I were your average caucasian jock, I'd take my chances in any jock, sports bar.  If I were gay, however, I'd worry a lot more about getting the beatdown of my life any time I stepped into one. This is like that. Women of a certain community are sent a message that if they don't toe the line, they could be next. I'm a little surprised that an emancipated woman would downplay this.  You're entitled to your opinion of course. Just a little surprised. If Amish men in particular were abusing or victimizing women, I would hope that would be discovered and exposed.  Why is exposing this any different? Should people be silent to avoid offending others of another culture?

I still contend that TA took a pin a day during his prime.

Discuss.

Does Kieth make entertaining illustrations and pictures like buttsuck? No.. Now fuck off.

Not in anyone's lifetime for the 300 years, it's part of a cycle and they seem to want to make a big deal out of it, we have bigger problems to deal with then just a bunch hipocrytes making a big deal out of relatively nothing!

It's very predictable.....he'll win for his movie "Inconvenient Lies".....err, I mean truth. Funny how Libs are more afraid of the environment then they are of Al Queda!

My God what a bunch of merry TOOLS on this site - and yes, it's leader in this instance of "WOW I'M IMPORTANT BECAUSE I DID A SEARCH AND FOUND SOMETHING I CAN USE AGAINST A PRO THAT I WISH I WAS AS BIG AS BUT AREN'T BECAUSE I SPEND MORE TIME SEARCHING FOR PORN ON THE NET THEN I DO SQUATTING IN THE GYM" posting, we find SquidFarmer linking us to a video of Luke Wood doing a set of safety bar squats.

Of course, the immediate MORONIC assumption by the ass-clown collective known as GET BIG TROLLS, have IMMEDIATELY run to and bowed down to and proceeded to kiss the fungi-filled toes of SquidFarmer for finding such a video which in thier eyes PROVES that Luke Wood is weak!

Of course!  because, naturally, THIS IS A HARD SET FOR HIM!  I mean, don't you see the sweat pouring down his face, the lack of PERFECT FORM, the LACK OF CONCENTRATION and the mere desire to push the bar up and down through an uncontrolled range of motion?

NO YOU TROLLS!  NO, NOT AT ALL!

Instead, we see LUKE WOOD executing PERFECT FORM with this movement, the way it SHOULD BE DONE - correctly, controlled, with focus, and probably worried only about the contracting of his quads and the proper motion to move from point a to point b without cheating.

But no, the GET BIG COLLECTIVE TROLL ASSOCIATION have once again failed to use COMMON SENSE or REASON in thier immediate responses.

Yes, the clueless will write "GEE, A DAH I CAN A DOO A LOT MORE DAN LUKE WOOD AND HE IS A PUSSY I CAN SQUAT 7 PLATES FOR 15 REPS AND YEAH!" forgetting that Mr. Wood is a BODYBUILDER and not a POWERLIFTER.

The morons aka ASS CLOWN GET BIG COLLECTIVE COCK TWISTS will also state that this is the MILOS secret to getting quads disregarding anything Milos has ever written or done in his life regarding how to build quads.

Yes, the morons will flock to the scene like flies on a freshly dumped pile of dog-dung, feasting and praying thier insatiable desire to troll will one day be met - perhaps by getting LAID and forgetting that you actually have to WORK OUT and LIFT WEIGHTS to have muscle. 

Congrats - GetBiggers, you've once again proven how an idiot can always find new and creative ways to embarass himself.

 

Tu, I am an old geezer at 45 so I saw Mike fight in person back around 1985 and 1986 at the Felt Form and Madison Square Garden proper. I also used to go fishing up in the Catskills around that time and we would frequently see Mike doing his roadwork. I think Tyson 1985 through 1988 would have knocked out Lewis.

Semantics!

Check this out:

No wraps, no belt, no suit,

Close stance & ATG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH-IadDDsK4

Yes of course.  But the reason this sort of thing sparks more outrage, news space, is because of the fact that the negative impact affects a whole community of people.

The difference is that the above are random acts of violence (except maybe no 3) and no others in a community need fear that the same kind of acts will be perpetrated on them.  In this case, the act is like a hate crime, or act of terrorism because it sends a message to many others of the same community to "heed a warning." I think.

they can't change it.  They sholdn't.  you have states like Cali or Ny with populations that outnumber many other states combined.

In theory, a guy could run on a ticket that says "I will send all the money and food to these top15 populated states".  He might get the majority by winning 15 of 50 states. 

Little states matter, and guys have to promise them resources too, to win.

Not becuase someone's daughter wanted to be a fashion designer