So just by the basis that this guy wanted to be a Doctor...ANY kind of Doctor...you are saying Chiropractors are bad.  Oh, and he had no other choice?  What McDonalds didn't want him?  He couldnt do ANYTHING else in his life?  Again, sounds like the guy had no real idea what he wanted to do in life.    Congrats on being on call so much.  I am erecting a shrine to you as we speak.  

Who massaged someone's foot?  If you were poking at me tiny, if you read the MD was the one who missed the diagnosis.  Try again.

At what point in this thread has ANYONE said get adjusted if you are needing treatment for cancer?  Please show me.  

At this point I am going to kindly tell you to go fuck yourself and get off your high horse.  What real medicine is?  You mean the kind that has cause MILLIONS of death each year due to wrong prescriptions or interactions?  How about the unwarranted and excessive surgeries performed each year?  Or how about the number of deaths by these same surgeries?  

Lastly...a TRUE and SERIOUS fuck you to the comment about not ever seeing a really sick cancer patient.  Listen...and listen well asshole, I was right there with my father....stage IV...lung, brain, and stomach.  Saw him whither away in front of my eyes.  As I said earlier, the man had a pair of stones to decide to come home instead of just live his remaining days in the hospital.  I don't have to be a chiro to point a finger at your fucking profession when it comes to failed treatments yet people like you will continue to say "well, you never know with cases like this".  At least I know when to tell a patient "I don't think what I am doing is helping".  The constant high and mighty attitude many in your profession exhibit (you being one of them) is laughable.  

I would love to have been face to face with you when you said that line about not ever seeing a real sick cancer patient.  YOu would have needed a fellow college after that.  Make no mistake about it.  Whatever respect I may have had for you and what you do just went out the window.  There is no meltdown...there is blunt speaking there chief.

Not a chiro but I've been to several and some absolutely tell you that any problems you have in your body is directly due to the spine and by adjusting the spine can remedy the issue.

My sister-in-law is a Cardiac Nurse Practitioner and she seems to love what she does. She tells me that the Cardiologists in her Hospital are very fond of her presence and work provided.

I am trying to push my nephew (presently doing undergrad) to possibly consider a career as either a Physician's Assistant or Nurse Practitioner. I think those two groups (based on my limited interactions with them), seem to have a solid grasp of internal medicine/primary medicine and appear to be easily trainable for much more specialized disciplines (Cardiac, pulmonary, GI etc.).  Ideally, he would go to Med School, but the kid lacks the stamina (I think) to stay put for more than 8 years. I think those other tacks (pa, np) take about 6-7 years to obtain their degrees (undergrad + grad), so it might work for him if he can concentrate long enough.

My take on Chiropractors is that they are sort of like the lite-version of orthopedists, but with no surgical or prescriptive rights/privileges. Generally speaking, I see them similar to that of optometrists in comparison to ophthalmologists (The optometrist being able to perform the basic examinations that the ophthalmologist can, but with the restriction of not being able to perform surgery/invasive procedures or prescribe controlled substances).

I know that an orthopedic surgeon gets well over 14-15 years of training (4 yrs undergrad + 4 years of med school + 5 years of ortho residency + 1-2 years of fellowship in their designated area of specialty like knee, hips or spine etc.) and while the chiropractor might have a little less training than that, I am sure they can provide patients with many good alternatives for their bone, muscle and joint injuries.

I also don't think that any patient would ever go to a chiropractor for any medical issue that isn't directly related to pathological presentation involving bones, joints, ligaments, tendons and/or muscles. I mean, the chiros on board can correct me if I am wrong, but why would a patient go to a chiro for an internal medicine, surgical, cardiac, GI, pulmonary, neurological or even dermatological issue? I think the average consumer is smart enough to differentiate what medical specialists are there for and what Chiropractors can offer to them, as possibly an alternative to orthopedic surgery.

If I am wrong in my assumption that Chiro's only provide care towards injuries or disorders of the skeletal system and associated muscles, joints, and ligaments, please let me know gentlemen. I am not taking sides, just providing my basic view here.

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What's your take on the strong influx of both Nurse practitioners and Physician Assistants by way of the Affordable care act?

Do you find that their (PA & NP) clinical skillsets are strong enough to hang with the big boys of medicine?

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Haha. I'm starting to get a clearer picture of u. Taking out ur organ while ur bored at work. Wut an idiot.

Something else. In this day and age of frivolous lawsuits and sky rocketing malpractice insurance premiums paid by docs. Do u know that malpractice insurance for chiros is less per year than many people's car insurance?  I pay about 12 dollars a year.  U know why?  Cuz the chance of u being hurt by a chiropractor is infinitesimal. Insurance companies have done the research and they they have years of experience covering docs. So u can submit any bulshit studies saying were killing and stroking people out when the truth is if it were the case the first people that would acknowledge would be the insurance carriers. They know those lies about us murdering and permanently damaging our patients is not true.

I was talking with a highly successful attorney who says he never accepts clients who claim guys were hurt by chiros. He said there is no money in it. Because nine times out of ten the case is thrown out or the jury finds the Chiro didn't hurt them.

12 hundred dollars a year lol. Not 12!

Here's the thing: I'm so confident and secure with my profession's role in healthcare that I dont feel obligated to crusade against my fellow colleagues. I have the utmost respect for all doctors. I will never bash allopathic practitioners simply for their title, whether I disagree with some of their methods or not.

I could also pull up pub med systematic reviews countering your review, as well as about a thousand that show some of the wonderful iatrogenic deaths caused by your profession. But I won't...it would be a waste of time.

Your ability to go on the defensive so quickly and take things so personally lead me to believe you aren't very confident in what you do?

Actually, that's NOT a lumbar spine since there is a superior costal facet present.

Hahahhahahahahhahahaha you're failing badly at this brother.

Let's start with baby steps: can you post a femur? Its a very large bone. Give it a shot!  

Lol, you respond in the same butt hurt way as you do in your Palumbo threads.

Nobody said sweet and low cures cancer. Good luck with your practice doc.

How about you damn med oncs start sending your HCCAs to me for RT instead of trying all these second and third line TKIs?!

Juan Morel. Is this the piece of shit who killed his son?

LOL

You should probable re-write this, especially after you got your ass handed to you by Krankenstein.

You clearly show a tremendous lack of knowledge about my field, it's peer-reviewed journals, or how to make insightful posts.

Lastly, please show me where i am wrong regarding sugar, and cancer.  You clearly haven't spent much time researching it. My points are not even debatable. You will realize this once you dig into a few books and spend some hours on pubmed. It scares me to think that you are even arguing with me about this and you could possibly be treating cancer patients one day without discussing this  

Ever heard of a PET scan? Positron Emission Tomography. Doctors attach radioactive tracers to a glucose (sugar) molecule and inject the patient. Then they use a scan image to see where the glucose is being metabolized the fastest....they know cancer thrives on sugar, so it gives the exact location of the cancer cells. So, that leads us to conclude....WHY THE FUCK AREN'T MORE ONCOLOGISTS STRESSING THE IMPORTANCE OF MINIMIZNG SUGAR AND CARBOHYDRATE CONSUMPTION??? .

Evans chest is overpowered by his shoulders! He just needs to bring his upper chest up some more! Wolf looks unfucking real in that shot!

Kevin Levrone lacked balance compared to Shawn.

Post 1993 Flex Wheeler was an oil head and doesn't deserve a mention.

He may have been a bigmouth, annoying or whatever but Shawn Ray never destroyed his physique the way most others did. He retained his lines, his aesthetics and he never lowered his presentation standards.

As a physique athlete, that speaks volumes.

i once went up to shawn at the fibo

and my only question for him was

"where is dorian?"


he must have been mad as hell

he converted some 15 years ago may be more bodybuilding was none existent in those countries back than.its personal matter anyway.i am not going to beat my head over it cuz i am not true gettbigger.you guys live for this kind of shit.

that makes me the one who break this news on getbig.