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1  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 24, 2014, 05:28:40 PM
Not even close. 


more cherry picking.

It's spot on and consistent with his anti-capitism hypocrisy.  He should donate his money to the other 99 percent.  Turn one or two of his nine houses into a homeless shelter. 

2  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: I'm sure Madcow will spend a month attacking this act of plagiarism on: July 24, 2014, 04:24:45 PM
Hey BB, don't get me wrong here.  I'm not looking for a thank you or a pat on the back.  I just wanted to fuck with Dario.

To me, we've just been in a harmless little pissing contest and I'll admit that I AM yanking your chain a little because honestly, even if you are completely lying about your own service, I'm not the type to think that's a big deal (though I realize that many people would).  

Sheesh, in some of the ex-pat bars I've hung out at I'd say about 70% of the loud-mouthed guys there are lying about their service and every other damned thing to boot.  It doesn't mean that they aren't interesting company, though.

Anyway, I don't dislike ya (even if you dislike me, lol) and hope you aren't too bothered by a little verbal fisticuffs.  Probably helps keep the mind sharp for an old-timer like you anyway, right?  

Peace.  

I gotta do a little work now but will likely be on later if you have to have the last word, lol.

My "last word" is what I've said repeatedly on the board for years:  I don't take any of this stuff personally. 
3  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: I'm sure Madcow will spend a month attacking this act of plagiarism on: July 24, 2014, 01:57:12 PM
It is name-calling.  That's all it is and I think I understand why you're resorting to it.

It's no big deal, really but you've been pissy in this thread since Option D proved you wrong about your conclusions re: the 2008 Central American Kids law-thang.

Also, you're having trouble explaining your rationale for why you believe that me pointing out that I've served in the military dishonors those who've served.  

For god's sake, if folks have served in the military I'm pretty sure they won't get their panties in a bunch over some other ex-military guy talking about his service to another guy who hasn't served regardless of the motivation for that talking.  That you would say this is yet another reason that your claim of your own service is doubtful.  

Hey, clear something up for me if you would, ya creepy stalker; I've been wondering why you looked through my post history for all my past references to my military service and I think I have the answer.  You thought you'd catch an inconsistency, didn't you?  LOL.  Did you have a sad when you didn't find one?  LOL.  

I did serve as a 98G Russian in the US Army.  You're just gonna have to face that regardless of how much you'd rather be writing about what a liar I am vs. having to fall back on your weak-ass "Ooooh, you're dishonoring other ex-servicemen" argument.

BTW, no matter what one's opinion is about how dishonorable it is for an ex-serviceman to disparage the non-service of another, I'm pretty sure that everyone will consider lying about one's service to be more dishonorable.  And that really seems to be what you're doing.

I'll apologize profusely if I wrong, btw.  So what did you do again?  Which service were you in, even?  

I don't expect that you'll address these direct questions, ya yellow-bellied old draft dodger so, unless you want to provide some corroborating details of your alleged service, please cease claiming that you've served, OK?  

I, along with all the other men and women who have actually served our country militarily, thank you.



Option D proved me wrong?  You really are a dishonest buggah.  Grow up dude.   

Projecting are we?  lol  The internet really does attract some strange birds.  lol

I don't care about your service.  If you did serve (and I have no idea if you did), I'm not going to thank you for your service, because you keep repeatedly patting yourself on the back.  You don't deserve it.  But hey not everyone can have class, dignity, intelligence, common sense, etc. 
4  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz on: July 24, 2014, 01:24:30 PM
Your answers to 1 and 2 are OK.  Sorry to repeat myself but you seemed to be answering JM's question but it turns out you weren't so I'm glad I asked for clarification.

Re: Your answer to #3, I'm happy with that, too but my response is just to smirk knowingly.  LOL. 

I have to ask, did you really accuse me of being a creepy stalker after going through my post history searching for and finding something like 7 separate references I've made to my military service?  Bwahaha.  You sound a little mental, BB.

BTW, I don't know your age.  Honestly, I'm not sure where I got the idea that you're older than me.  I've never looked at your post history but I think mentioned grandkids, haven't you?  If you aren't older than my 50 years, then I stand corrected.

Yeah.  In fact, I have great-grandkids.  I'm really 90 years old. 

Now tell me which one of us is constantly asking people for personal information?  (That would be you.)

And, Simpleton Simon, what I did was save you the trouble of asking me to prove that you keep trying to use your alleged service to demean others.  You like to ask for proof, and I've embarrassed you with it in the past.  So I just saved you the trouble.

This is a slow news day and I have too much time on my hands.  lol
5  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: I'm sure Madcow will spend a month attacking this act of plagiarism on: July 24, 2014, 01:11:48 PM
Trite name-calling. 

I could not care less if anyone respects me for my service.  I did not serve to get respect from anyone.  That kind of shit is for insecure idiots.

My words dishonors other guys who've actually served how again?  Because if you're saying that honorable servicemen don't pompously talk down to others that's tantamount to you admitting that you never served.  LOL

And shit, that makes sense to me.  Often, the guys who glorify military service, which you do constantly, are those who did not serve but wish they had. 

What happened BB?  Was it your fault?  Did they deem you mentally unfit or was there some outside reason you didn't serve?  Fess up, "patriot".

Uh, right.  Ok.  Where do I begin . . . .

You called someone "intellectually lazy and confused," then cry when I point out the fact that you really are a simpleton, and call it "trite name-calling"?  Seriously?  lol

Bragging about your service as a way to demean those who didn't serve is precisely what an insecure idiot would do. 

Boy did I pick the right label for you.   Smiley
6  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz on: July 24, 2014, 12:54:36 PM
I do live in the USA.  I guess you could say I've listened to the president since he's taken office but that's about the vaguest question ever so I'm not exactly sure what you're asking.

Anyway, in case you did want to answer my questions but just sorta forgot after posing your own, here they are again:

1. When you made the comment about about Obama's lack of leadership in the last 6 years as far as securing the border, are you still talking about the influx of kids from Central America or are you referring to illegal immigration in general?
I'm asking this because JM was questioning why it took 6 years (from 2008 until 2014) for the ostensible results of the 2008 law to be felt and that law concerned not turning away kids from Central America, right?  So I hazarded a guess that in the past 6 years it might be because the security situation in the kids' home countries has worsened and then you made your own comment about the last 6 years but it seems like maybe it doesn't have anything to do with the kids (since Obama didn't have much to do with enacting the law that makes turning them away illegal) so I'm asking for clarification.  Sorry if this puts you out at all but because of the posts before your post, your post isn't so clear.  

2. What's the major change you're referring to? -- What is Obama doing differently than his predecessor with regard to illegal immigration?  No big deal if you're not prepared to answer this intelligently.  After all, I doubt if you're some kind of immigration expert so it's reasonable to expect that you're reluctant to make claims that you're not sure of.  

3. To your knowledge, have our borders EVER been (what anyone would call) secure?
You're (at least a little) older than I am so you might be better able to answer this question than I can.  That's all.

1.  I'm talking about Obama's lack of leadership across the board.  His failure to secure the borders.  His support for amnesty.  His failure to prosecute illegal aliens.  Facilitating welfare benefits for illegals.  Running media advertisements encouraging illegals to apply for government assistance.  All of this has sent a very public message to those south of the border that we have an open door immigrate policy.  You really haven't been paying attention, have you? 

2.  See response to number 1. 

3.  I don't know if our borders have ever been totally secure. But what the heck difference does that make?  This hope and change president was supposed to be different.  What matters is what is happening on his watch. 

And how the heck do you know how old I am?  Are you another creepy stalker?  Geeze Louise.  You little turds are everywhere. 
7  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: I'm sure Madcow will spend a month attacking this act of plagiarism on: July 24, 2014, 12:48:00 PM
Man, you're a weird dude.  Ask you a question about a topic we're discussing and you can't be bothered to check it out but here you've compiled a dossier on my references to my service in the army. lol    Yeeah, you're normal, BB. lol

BTW, who the fuck are you to tell me what I should say or not say about my army service?  I'm completely forthcoming and honest about all of it.  The details I freely give should indicate that.  If you doubt me, ask me more questions and I'll be happy to answer 'em if I can.

Contrast that with your own claims of having served even though you're secretive (ashamed?) about what job you supposedly did.

You wanna try to explain this ridiculous notion you have that if I contrast my own service with others who simply talk a big game about being patriotic it somehow dishonors anything or anybody?  Or is this just more convoluted BS straight from the ass of the intellectually lazy and confused BB who won't back up half of what he writes?



I doubt I could explain it to you, Simpleton Simon.  You probably wouldn't understand it.  

But here goes:  using your purported service as a way to demean those who didn't serve makes you look like a pompous, ignorant, donkey.  People will not respect your alleged service if you try and use it as a means to try and make yourself appear superior to others who never wore the uniform.  As I previously said, it dishonors those who did serve, and did so selflessly.  The fact I even have to tell you this shows how much of a simpleton you really are.  
8  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: I'm sure Madcow will spend a month attacking this act of plagiarism on: July 24, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
I hope she does.  And I, for one, will not give this guy nor Rand Paul my vote for president regardless of whether either one suffers from PTSD as a result of military service for our great country.

Say, Dario, in which branch of the military did you serve?  Personally, I did 4 years of active duty in the army as a 98G Russian and, big patriot that you are, I'm sure you did your part, too, right?


If you really did serve, you should be proud of that fact.  But trying to use your alleged service as a way to demean others is juvenile and dishonors those who have served. 

Other than Mons Venus, you probably claim to have served more than any who has posted on this board.

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BTW, I served 4 years active duty in the US Army as a 98G Russian.  Were you ever in the service?

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Where is this Canadian thing coming from?  I'm 100% American.  Born and raised in the CA Bay Area.  Served 4 years on active duty in the US army as a 98G Russian, in fact.


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Forgive my ignorance (I was a 98G Russian with a strategic assignment - a real job, haha -  during my tour so I know very little about the tactical folks), but weren't we talking about (women in) combat roles in general? 


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Really?  What MOS?  (I was a 98G Russian.)

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You are wrong.  I AM a vet.  I was in the army for 4 years as a 98G Russian.  Unlike TonyMcFakeJudoChamp, I don't lie about the claims I make here on GB, so you can ask me any question you like about being a former 98G and I'll answer it.


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*RE: Nasser:  I thought he was a really cool and smart guy.  This was in about '85 or '86 and I think Nasser was only about 19 or 20.  I know he was a university student and did not see him at the gym much.  He introduced himself to me because he'd heard that I was a foreign language guy (at that time I was in the army as a 98G Russian Voice Interceptor) and he knew like 4 languages or something. 


9  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee on: July 24, 2014, 09:30:05 AM
Clinton polling well in key presidential battleground
Posted by
CNN Political Unit

(CNN) – Hillary Clinton is the clear 2016 frontrunner in the nation's largest presidential battleground state, according to a new poll.

A Quinnipiac University survey of Florida voters indicates the former secretary of state, who's seriously considering a second bid for the White House, with leads from seven to 21 percentage points over potential GOP presidential candidates in possible 2016 showdowns.


"Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton may be taking some criticism recently in the news media and among some liberal Democratic precincts, but nothing has changed among average voters in Florida where she remains queen of the political prom," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University poll.

According to the survey, which was released Thursday morning, Clinton also has an overwhelming lead in the hunt for the Democratic nomination, with former two-term Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and the state's junior U.S. senator, Marco Rubio, leading the pack of potential GOP contenders.

Two-thirds of Sunshine State Democratic primary voters questioned in the survey say they'd back Clinton for their party's nomination, followed by Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts each at eight percent. Biden is mulling another presidential bid while Warren has said numerous times that she's not running in 2016. Other potential candidates registered at one percent or less.

Twenty-one percent of Republicans say they'd back Bush in the primary, followed by Rubio at 18%. Bush was at 27% and Rubio at 11% among Florida Republicans in Quinnipiac's May poll.

Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas is at 10% in the new poll, with Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky standing at 8%, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee – who ran for the 2008 nomination – at 7%, and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 6%. None of the other possible contenders top 5%.

In hypothetical 2016 general election matchups, Sunshine State voters back Clinton over Bush 49%-42%. The poll indicates Clinton leads Ryan by 13 points, Rubio by 14 points, Paul by 16 points and Christie by 21 points.

A Quinnipiac poll in Colorado released Wednesday in Colorado, another swing state, indicated much closer 2016 general election showdowns between Clinton and potential GOP candidates.

As for the current occupant in the White House, the survey indicates President Barack Obama has a 44%-52% approval/disapproval rating among Florida votes, compared to 46%-50% in May.

The Quinnipiac University poll was conducted July 17-21, with 1,251 registered voters in Florida questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 2.8 percentage points.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/07/24/clinton-polling-well-in-key-presidential-battleground/
10  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz on: July 24, 2014, 09:28:35 AM
The guy who answers "I don't know.  Do you?" and leaves it at that says this?  LOL

You know who Beach Bum reminds me of?:  Years ago, after I'd served 4 years in the Army just before going back to school, I got a job as a retail associate (salesman) at a place called Cycle Gear, a retail shop in a small chain of stores that sold motorcycle parts and accessories.  It was a challenging job at first because I was always being asked questions that I didn't immediately have the answer for.  I was a good employee so, when asked questions like "What's the biggest tire I can fit on the back of my GSXR", I'd answer "I don't know but I'll find out".  Well, one week one of my fellow employees took some time off so a guy from another store (I don't remember his name) came to fill in.  This is the guy who BB reminds me of because this guy, when asked a question by a customer to which he didn't have an answer, would astound me by simply answering, "I don't know" and then just smiling until the customer went away.  

Some folks here, on both the left and the right, DO want to know the facts.  Often, however, BB is not among these folks.

Cool story bro. 
11  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz on: July 24, 2014, 09:27:38 AM
Wait, are we still talking about the influx of kids from Central America or are you now just talking about illegal immigration in general?

Also, what's the major change?  What is Obama doing differently than his predecessor with regard to illegal immigration?  (Honest questions -- and I think I deserve points for resisting the urge to post that amusing "Thanks Obama!" video from Jenna Marbles.)

Side question:  Have our borders EVER been (what anyone would call) secure?  I doubt it. 

Do you live in the U.S.?  Have you been listening to the president since he has taken office?  (Honest questions -- and I think I deserve points for not calling you Simpleton Simon again.)
12  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Airline prohibits free speech regarding complaints on: July 24, 2014, 09:25:15 AM
There is no "free speech" on a private airline.  Only an idiot would become confrontational on a plane in today's environment.  One of the quickest ways to find yourself in handcuffs. 
13  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: I'm sure Madcow will spend a month attacking this act of plagiarism on: July 24, 2014, 09:22:32 AM
This is really insulting to victims of PTSD.  I know a number of people who have it, and I'm not aware of any of them becoming dishonest as a result of having PTSD.
14  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 24, 2014, 09:20:31 AM
Stone cold hypocrite.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQwt_GiiVi8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQwt_GiiVi8</a>
15  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 5 NYPD cops choke unarmed man to death on: July 24, 2014, 09:18:41 AM
Part of the issue of this case is that witnesses claim that police only attempted to arrest the guy because they were familiar with him, not because he had broken any law that day. The officer who made the choke hold has a history of tampering with evidence and police reports. The NYPD has had to pay out on at least one lawsuit involving him.

They shouldn't have been arresting him unless he was committing or had committed a crime. 

That said, someone who has been arrested 31 times probably shouldn't be on the street.  Speaking in general terms, someone like that is a menace to society. 

Why does that cop still have a job if he was caught tampering with evidence? 
16  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 5 NYPD cops choke unarmed man to death on: July 24, 2014, 09:14:26 AM
This was funny and I chuckled out loud.  Obviously you're not feeling pissy now.

You laughed?  Good.  You must be off the rag? 
17  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Federal Judge Strikes Down California's Death Penalty on: July 23, 2014, 05:39:38 PM
Arizona Execution: Joseph Wood 'Gasping And Snorting For More Than An Hour,' Lawyers Say
The Huffington Post     | By Michael McLaughlin
07/23/2014

An Arizona inmate gasped and snorted in an execution that lasted nearly two hours on Tuesday.

Lawyers for Joseph Wood had filed an emergency motion to abort the execution because their client was still alive more than an hour after receiving a lethal injection that was intended to kill him quickly and peacefully.

Their motion, filed in federal district court, failed to save Wood. Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne announced that the 55-year-old convicted killer was pronounced dead at 3:49 p.m.

Court papers said the execution started 117 minutes earlier.

"He has been gasping and snorting for more than an hour," Wood's lawyers wrote in their hurried attempt to call off the execution and force Arizona to provide Wood with life-saving care. "He is still alive."

A journalist from the Arizona Republic who witnessed the execution said Wood gasped for air 660 times after the drugs were introduced through intravenous tubes.

Wood was convicted of killing his girlfriend Debra Dietz and her father in 1989.

Dietz' sister dismissed concerns about how Wood died.

"I don't believe he was suffering," Dietz's sister, Jeannie Brown told NBC News. "Who really suffered was my dad and my sister when they were killed."


Defense lawyers and prosecutors had battled in court in the run-up to Wood’s execution. His attorneys sought to postpone his execution unless Arizona disclosed information about the untested cocktail of deadly drugs they planned to administer to him, the Arizona Republic reported.

They also argued that Wood's original defense was inadequate. The Arizona Supreme Court, however, rejected both arguments earlier today and allowed the execution to go forward.

After Wood's death was announced, one of his lawyers in a statement given to HuffPost criticized the secrecy Arizona officials maintained around the experimental use of drugs.

"We will renew our efforts to get information about the manufacturer of drugs as well as how Arizona came up with the experimental formula of drugs it used today. Arizona appears to have joined several other states who have been responsible for an entirely preventable horror -- a bungled execution," Dale Baich said. "The public should hold its officials responsible and demand to make this process more transparent.”

In April, Oklahoma halted the execution of inmate Clayton Lockett who writhed in the death chamber during an execution prolonged by poorly administered drugs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/23/joseph-wood-execution_n_5615308.html
18  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Impeachment on: July 23, 2014, 05:36:57 PM
Fox News Poll: Voters say Obama exceeded authority, but oppose impeachment
By Dana Blanton
Published July 23, 2014
FoxNews.com

July 21, 2014: President Barack Obama speaks about the My Brothers Keeper Initiative, at the Walker Jones Education Campus in Washington. (AP)
Despite believing Barack Obama has overstepped his authority as president, most voters reject calls to impeach him for that -- or for any other reason.

By a 58-37 percent margin, the latest Fox News poll finds that voters think President Obama exceeded his authority under the Constitution when he unilaterally changed the health care law by executive order.

Click here for the poll results.

And, more generally, a similar majority disapproves of Obama bypassing Congress, acting unilaterally and refusing to enforce laws he disagrees with: 37 percent approve, while 58 percent disapprove.

Obama’s use of executive power plays well with the party faithful, as a 64-percent majority of Democrats approves of his actions, while a majority of every other demographic group disapproves (including fully 91 percent of Republicans).

Some prominent Republicans, including 2008 vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, have called for the president’s impeachment. Yet more than six voters in 10 oppose impeaching Obama for changing some laws and failing to enforce others or “for any other reason” (61 percent). Some 36 percent favor impeachment.

Nearly four in 10 Democrats think Obama is guilty of executive overreach on changing the Obamacare law (39 percent), and one in five Democrats favors impeaching their party’s leader (20 percent).

Among Republicans, 83 percent consider Obama’s actions on the health care law a violation of the Constitution. Yet far fewer Republicans -- although still a 56-percent majority -- favor impeachment.

Fifty-five percent of independents believe Obama violated the Constitution, and 37 percent favor impeachment (61 percent are opposed).

The highest level of support for impeaching Obama -- 68 percent -- is among those who are part of the Tea Party movement.

Overall, 81 percent of those favoring impeachment believe President Obama went beyond his authority when he changed the health care law unilaterally.

Charges that Obama has violated the Constitution have helped raise the political temperature in Washington this summer. In early July, House Speaker John Boehner took steps to file a lawsuit against Obama for his “failure to follow the Constitution” on the health care law by altering the individual mandate via executive order. On Tuesday two federal appeals courts took opposing views on whether Obama illegally ignored the language of the Obamacare law to give federal subsidies to people who are not entitled to them. Despite one court ruling that says he did, the White House announced subsidies will continue.

Forty-one percent of voters approve of how Obama is handling health care, while 54 percent disapprove. That’s a bit of an improvement from last month’s 41-56 percent rating. It also makes health care his best issue, topping the job performance ratings he receives on the economy (40-57 percent), foreign policy (36-56 percent) and immigration (34-58 percent).

Pollpourri

Obama has the most powerful job in the world -- and all the perks that go with that. Yet he’s been criticized by some for seeming disengaged and frustrated with his job. What does the public think? The poll finds a large 41-percent minority thinks Obama doesn’t even want to be president anymore. Still, just over half of voters think he does (52 percent).

Forty-seven percent of independents, 44 percent of Republicans and 37 percent of Democrats think Obama is tired of being president.

The Fox News poll is based on landline and cell phone interviews with 1,057 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from July 20-22, 2014. The full poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/23/fox-news-poll-voters-say-obama-exceeded-authority-but-oppose-impeachment/?intcmp=trending
19  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Meets With Reporters In Off-Record Session on: July 23, 2014, 05:32:50 PM
Fox News Poll: Obama White House most transparent ever? Hardly!
By Dana Blanton
Published July 23, 2014
FoxNews.com

Earlier this month the Obama administration repeated its claim that it is the most transparent administration in history. Ever. Period.

Most voters disagree.

According to the latest Fox News national poll, more than two-thirds -- 68 percent -- say no, this White House is not the most open and transparent.

Click here for the poll results.

The new poll, released Wednesday, finds that just 28 percent of voters agree with the administration’s characterization that it’s good at sharing information.

Even Democrats have somewhat mixed views: 51 percent say Obama is the most transparent president, yet a sizable 44 percent minority sees it differently.

Almost all Republicans (93 percent) and a large majority of independents (77 percent) say this White House isn’t the most open and clear.

A Fox News Poll conducted in May 2014 found that while 27 percent of voters think the Obama presidency has been more transparent than previous ones, 34 percent think it has been less open and another 38 percent say it has been about the same as others.

Meanwhile, opinions split over whether Barack Obama is honest and trustworthy: while 48 percent of voters say yes, a record-high 50 percent say no.

In December, a record-low 45 percent said Obama was honest.

Most Democrats think Obama is honest (79 percent), while most Republicans (84 percent) and over half of independents (59 percent) disagree.

The Fox News poll is based on landline and cell phone interviews with 1,057 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from July 20-22, 2014. The full poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/23/fox-news-poll-obama-white-house-most-transparent-ever-hardly/
20  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz on: July 23, 2014, 03:49:55 PM
dude... just drop it... no one wants facts... everyone wants to play dumb and ignore facts while placing blame on "the other side"

this shit is sickening

You and others only want to deal with some facts.

This isn't about blaming a side.  It's about the president and Congress doing their job.   
21  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 5 NYPD cops choke unarmed man to death on: July 23, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
so you are a cop or ex cop ?

Nope.  But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night . . . .
22  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Political Cartoons on: July 23, 2014, 01:44:13 PM
23  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 5 NYPD cops choke unarmed man to death on: July 23, 2014, 01:39:55 PM
If "abusing their authority in the past" includes physical abuse that still goes on today, then I agree.

In fact, except for you introducing the the word "fighting" when talking about this guy dying, I agree with your whole post. 

In the guy's defense, though, he'd been previously arrested 31 times*, all for non-violent offenses, so he was probably at the end of his rope, emotionally.

You can sympathize, can't you?  I mean, as pissy as you get here on this board, BB, I'd bet you aren't beyond acting similarly.  (You probably ARE smart enough to back off and shut up when you see that arresting you and not just hassling you is the intent of the cops, though.)

*31 times arrested probably means at least a couple of times that number hassled but not arrested.  Not helped at all by the big dead guy's memorable appearance, I'm thinking;  Like Naimond with his distinctive hair in The Wire, some guys are liable to draw more attention than others just because they look different/memorable.



I never get "pissy" on the board.  You're just hypersensitive.  I don't think I've ever been literally upset over anything anyone has said on here. 

I cannot sympathize with someone who has been arrested 31 times.  How the heck does that even happen?? 

And no, I'm not saying he deserved to die. 
24  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz on: July 23, 2014, 01:13:26 PM
Has the security situation in the countries these kids come from been static for the last 6 years?

I don't know.  Do you?

What I do know is the one major change over the past six years in this country is a president who has failed to secure the borders and been doing backdoor amnesty for illegals. 
25  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 5 NYPD cops choke unarmed man to death on: July 23, 2014, 01:00:01 PM
He might have been.  Cops being violent with folks who are complying is hardly unheard of.  In this particular case, the guy was large and scary enough to be threatening to many cops even if he'd been reciting nursery rhymes. 

Check out youtube if you want to see evidence of this kind of thing happening.

Probably what bugs some folks is that it seems like some folks would rather focus on the relatively minor mistakes made by the dead man instead of the major mistakes made by the cops.  A lot of folks, I think, will do this because they have an agenda of some kind.

I don't really think Tony's doing this, btw.  If I were to try to get into Tony's head, I'd say he's saying what he's saying because he's thinking to himself about how he'd try to avoid getting killed if he were in the same situation as the big black dead guy.  And, clearly, total compliance is the best strategy if the goal is to come out of the situation alive.

Lastly, though, it's a sad state of affairs when one has to totally comply with some idiotic/dishonest cops over some illegal cigarette allegations simply to stay alive.

I'm sure cops have abused their authority in the past.  This particular dude is clearly not one of those folks who was being cooperative. 

One of the rules of society is you don't fight with cops.  If they want to arrest you, and you believe you're innocent, the time to fight it is NOT when they're trying to put handcuffs on.  That's plain stupid. 
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