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1  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy 2 on: Today at 07:31:48 PM
I posted this in the impeachment thread.  She claims she misspoke.  lol  She is such an embarrassment. 
2  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question on: Today at 07:30:51 PM
Bankrupt California city eyes marijuana for revenue
By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos
Published July 31, 2014
FoxNews.com

July 11, 2014: Marijuana plants for sale are displayed at the medical marijuana farmers market at the California Heritage Market in Los Angeles, Calif.Reuters
The bankrupt California city of San Bernardino has a new idea for raising revenue – legalize medical marijuana, and tax the pot.

Ironically, the plan was spurred by concerns about not having enough resources to crack down on the illegal medical marijuana dealers springing up all over town.

So the city is now looking at legalizing the sellers, and using the proceeds to enforce the regulations.

It’s not quite “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em,” but like many municipalities in California today, San Bernardino is recognizing that it could be bringing millions of dollars into its foundering coffers each year if it opened its doors to regulated medical marijuana dispensaries. And it would be able to have a say in who operates these places, as well as how and where.

“This is a no-brainer,” said Karen O’Keefe, director of state policies at the Marijuana Policy Project in California. “More and more people are realizing that you’d really have to be in the Stone Age to oppose this.”

But San Bernardino is not exactly there, yet. According to City Attorney Gary Saenz, a legislative review panel has been formed by the City Council to study the idea. This panel is collecting data, talking to the city police department and examining laws in other jurisdictions before bringing a proposal to the full committee. It plans on holding at least two more public meetings on the subject through August.

“We are in the exploratory phase,” Saenz told FoxNews.com, insisting that “my primary objective is to close down the seedy shops.”

Police have reported as many as 20 illegal storefronts in town at any given time, he said. Legalizing and regulating this now-unwieldy industry, he feels, is one of the tools available to the city to start taking control.

“We have in this city a proliferation – and a lot of cities in California are experiencing it – of illegal medical marijuana dispensaries. These people are defiant and they are opening up these things right and left.

“We are a city of limited resources,” he added, noting to shut a business down requires civil enforcement, including protracted legal proceedings, and often the police. Even when they do go after the violators aggressively, often they pop up elsewhere and another comes to town in its place.

“We can’t close them down to the satisfaction of our citizens,” said Saenz, so “this city attorney’s office is presenting our council with options. And the idea is essentially, primarily, to close down illegal shops” and using the new money from the legal ones to do it.

City Council member James Mulvihill said he was on board with the idea early on after hearing it cost the city $10,000 every time it went after an illegal dealer. He, as well as the mayor’s chief of staff, Michael McKinney, say any funds gleaned from the regulation and tax of marijuana dispensaries would be used exclusively for enforcement.

“I think we are making the right steps. It’s been a hot issue,” Mulvihill told FoxNews.com, noting that he has not received a lot of negative feedback since the idea was made public in the last two open council meetings. “Prohibiting them is obviously not working. It’s almost easier to regulate it than prohibit it.”

He said he is supporting a plan to permit less than a half a dozen dispensaries. He said they could charge upward of $60,000 a year in fees, plus something in the order of 10 percent a year in taxes, much like nearby Palm Springs, which he says regulates in order to pay for enforcement too.

McKinney said Mayor R. Carey Davis, prefers “not to see any marijuana dispensaries in the city of San Bernardino,” but is listening to all the options on how to combat the current problems.

McKinney said his office has been getting calls advocating both sides of the issue.

Saenz wants to be clear this idea has not sprung out of a newfound desire of town officials or citizenry to embrace marijuana. In fact, San Bernardino is one of 200 California municipalities that have maintained an outright ban on pot shops since medical marijuana was made legal through a ballot referendum in 1996.

This was reaffirmed last year when the state Supreme Court in San Francisco unanimously ruled that local jurisdictions have authority to prohibit medical marijuana despite its legality at the state level.

But San Bernardino, population 209,924, has other problems. In 2012, it declared bankruptcy, at the time becoming the largest city in the U.S. to do so.

Mulvihill insists his own support for the dispensaries is quite narrow.

“I’m doing this because of the trouble we’re in -- we can’t control it,” he said. “I’m not doing this for potheads.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/31/bankrupt-california-city-eyes-marijuana-for-revenue/
3  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question on: Today at 02:26:14 PM
Bill Kristol: Legalizing Pot Is 'Playing With Our Kids' Futures'
Thursday, 31 Jul 2014
By Bill Hoffmann

Continued legalization of marijuana across the United States would be a disaster for the nation, Bill Kristol, founder and editor of The Weekly Standard and an ABC News political commentator, told Newsmax TV.

"It's really irresponsible the attitude people have taken towards this, that it's a chic thing … to say we've got to decriminalize some of these drugs,'' Kristol said Wednesday on Newsmax's "The Steve Malzberg Show.

"But it's playing with our kids' futures, really.''

Story continues below video.

Kristol said he served as chief of staff to Secretary of Education William Bennett during the Reagan administration, when Washington launched its ambitious crusade against drugs.

"You looked at the damages being done by the drug epidemic then, and there'll be more drug use if it's legal and if it's cheap. So yeah, I'm very concerned about what's happening.''

Thus far, Colorado and Washington, have legalized the recreational use of marijuana, and Maryland passed a law decriminalizing possession of 10 grams or less. Maryland, New York and Minnesota have also passed legislation for the use of medical pot.

Kristol also weighed in on President Barack Obama's use of executive power and the recent warnings by Democrats that the GOP wants to impeach the commander-in-chief.

"I’m not for impeaching him, no one really is, I guess, at this point,'' Kristol said.

"The conventional wisdom is … it would be an utter political disaster, a horrible mistake."

Kristol said he was surprised that Florida Sen. Marco Rubio was one of 11 Republicans who voted along with Democrats in the Senate to keep the president's request for $3.7 billion to help ease the U.S.-Mexico border crisis.

"I would have voted on the other way on that…. Getting this president $3 billion with no strings, basically no legal changes … that doesn't sit well with me,'' he said.

"It's not that we're not spending enough money that's causing this to happen right? So it's crazy for Republicans to go along with that Democratic narrative.''

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/marijuana-legal/2014/07/30/id/585901#ixzz395Ef7fQL
4  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Impeachment on: Today at 02:11:26 PM
I find this very funny and very sad at the same time.  The people we put in DC.  Sheesh. 

Democratic Rep Who Co-Sponsored Bush Impeachment Bill: We Didn’t Try To Impeach Bush
By Mike Miller 

Texas Democrat Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, who often has an arm’s length relationship with the truth, told a “whopper” Wednesday, as she excoriated House Republicans for voting to sue Barack Obama for executive overreach.

As reported by Buzzfeed’s Katherine Miller, Lee not only claimed that the effort was little more than a precursor to impeaching Obama, but that she and her Democrat colleagues never considered impeaching George W. Bush:

” I ask my colleagues to oppose this resolution for it is in fact a veiled attempt at impeachment and it undermines the law that allows a president to do his job.
 
A historical fact: President Bush pushed this nation into a war that had little to do with apprehending terrorists.
 
We did not seek an impeachment of President Bush, because as an executive, he had his authority. President Obama has the authority.”
Whoops. Not only did House Democrats indeed introduce a resolution to impeach President Bush in 2008 – Sheila Jackson Lee co-sponsored it.
Hey, maybe she just “forgot,” right?

UPDATE:
According to Yahoo!, Rep. Sheila Jackson’s office says she ‘misspoke’:
“She misspoke,” Jackson Lee’s spokesman Mike McQuerry told Yahoo News on Thursday morning. He declined to elaborate on what she meant to say.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/163157-dem-rep-co-sponsored-bush-impeachment-bill-didnt-try-impeach-bush/
5  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: What Happens Next For Lois Lerner? on: Today at 02:07:28 PM
how many more? A lot, I hope.

Yes, I'm sure you do. 
6  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Another liberal liar on: Today at 02:07:00 PM
Certainly calls her credibility into question.
7  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Is it just about being right/winning the argument? on: Today at 12:51:00 PM
Beach making some enemies lately - im impressed.   Grin

lol  Cheesy Man I don't take any of this stuff seriously. 
8  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Is it just about being right/winning the argument? on: Today at 12:38:03 PM


 Grin
9  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Is it just about being right/winning the argument? on: Today at 12:37:36 PM
Whateva, liar.

Besides "classic" Bugs Bunny (lol) what do you consider funny?  

And please, try to restrain yourself from making references to anything that happened before the 1950's.



What do I consider funny?  You.  Not your incredibly lame attempted humor.  Your pseudo-intellectual commentary, which is often mindless, drone, simplistic left-wing gibberish.  
10  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Impeachment? Hahahaha on: Today at 11:09:10 AM
A video clip of Bug Bunny saying "What a maroon!", on the other hand...LOL

Don't forget "what an ignoranimous."   Cheesy

Comparing pictures used to try and make a serious point with a classic cartoon used to mock you just further demonstrates that you earned your nickname.  lol
11  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Is it just about being right/winning the argument? on: Today at 11:06:26 AM
Shocker. 

Liars think everyone lies.  Thieves think everyone steals.  BB thinks everyone is intellectually dishonest.

Nah.  I just think you are an unfunny simpleton. 
12  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ronald on Immigration on: Today at 11:04:03 AM
wait... what unilateral action by president?


Failing to prosecute illegal aliens, in violation of his Constitutional mandate to enforce the law.  Dismissing deportation cases. Running advertisements encouraging illegals to use government services.  Refusing to crack down on sanctuary cities. Implementing the Dream Act via executive order.
13  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ronald on Immigration on: Today at 10:52:05 AM
It was an amnesty bill..no?

Yes it was. 
14  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: US military obtains new video of American soldier held in captivity on: Today at 10:35:32 AM
LOL.

You are a nut, BB -- but you're probably OK in real life.

What do you call that philosophy that consists of thinking that you are the only real person in the universe and everyone else is a figment of your imagination?  That.  You have that.

Why thank you very much Simpleton Simon.  Your comments are most appreciated.   Smiley
15  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Israel and Gaza - discussion on: Today at 10:33:26 AM
Bugs Bunny? 

Dude, how old are you?

No wonder you seem out-of-touch despite living in the West.

Bugs is the man.  And yes, you are maroon.   Smiley

Still laughing . . .  Grin
16  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ronald on Immigration on: Today at 10:30:49 AM
No...we know he supported amnesty...ITs a fact...like a stone cold fact
My issue is we say Obama is bad and Reagan is good for "these" reasons...
But He and Obama did the same things on a lot of those issues. One is called by the right the worst and the other is called the best.
I despise inconsistent arguments. Those suck.. As do disingenuous ones....and why even get involved if we have our ears and eyes cut off to that which doesn’t fall in line with our predetermined thought pattern. I’m not going to play the semantics game with anyone here. It’s a waste of time. I will continue to only deal in facts. Not "he lacks leadership" horse shit arguments....Facts and numbers.


You are comparing an act of Congress with unilateral action by the president.  Apples and oranges.
17  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ronald on Immigration on: Today at 10:29:00 AM
Simpson-Mazoli Act

What about it?
18  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: US military obtains new video of American soldier held in captivity on: Today at 10:09:55 AM
Don't know what to tell you as far as the real experience I've related regarding soldiers in my MOS and duty station being allowed to go home relatively easily back in 1987.  If you have specific info that indicates otherwise, let's hear it.  Or post up some links. 

Anyway, enough people on this board probably served at that time so let's see what someone who served but isn't some kind of military fetishist has to say about it, shall we?

FYI, ya wannabe ex-serviceman, I was really good at my job.  I'd have been shitty as an infantryman or whatever but I kicked ass as a Russian voice interceptor where they wisely valued intelligence over blind obedience.

And maybe you'd can tell me how I was gonna get someone killed when my job was to comfortably sit on my ass with headphones on all day at this place in West Germany?:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USASA_Field_Station_Augsburg 
I didn't work in that building in the middle of that giant antenna, I worked in one of the buildings nearby.  Sadly, only after scanning the wiki page I've linked did I realize that the Gablingen kaserne closed down in 1998.   Cry

Who the heck cares what someone else says?  This isn't a contest.  You're trying too hard. 
19  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ronald on Immigration on: Today at 10:06:59 AM
lol... i fucking hate us...

We play the Dumb card whenever its beneficial.

"It only says apprehensions"

As if there isn’t a direct correlation between the two... Roll Eyes

We fucking suck bro.
We turn in to Sherlock Holmes when numbers don’t support your predetermined stance on a subject.
We totally ignore the source (or lack thereof) validity and or support articles that fall in line with how we already think.
We are doomed.  I’m moving back to the mountains of Puerto Rico


People disagree with you, so you pick up your bat and ball and go home?  Weak.

You started this thread with a clip that didn't support some veiled claim that Reagan supported amnesty. 
20  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ronald on Immigration on: Today at 10:04:22 AM
So you're saying that you don't believe the significant reduction of apprehensions indicates a significant reduction in the number of people trying to illegally cross the borders?  

And you hold this belief why?  Because the number of immigrants you see is greater than ever?

You do realize, don't you, that just because there are significantly less coming over the border annually than in years past this does not at all mean anyone is saying there aren't more illegal immigrants living here than ever before, right?  

Sheesh, the number living here will continue to increase as long as the #of illegal immigrants for any given year exceeds the number already living here who die, leave the country, or convert to legal status.  I'm gonna guess that those 2 numbers aren't close at all so of course the total number of illegal immigrants we have living here is going to climb each year.

Folks saying that all these illegals there seeing must indicate that there are more coming over the border than ever before remind me of little kids who can't grasp that 1 dime is more valuable than 9 pennies.

I'm saying it because it's true, as anyone with an ounce of common sense and real world experience will tell you.  John Matrix tried to explain it to you. 

It's not the number of immigrants you see.  That's just you being you (making stuff up).  It's the sheer number of illegal aliens, the people who live in border towns who experience it, the change in policy by the administration, etc.  You should talk to people like JM (as I have) and you get a better understanding of what is happening in the country.
21  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: What Happens Next For Lois Lerner? on: Today at 09:16:37 AM
Exactly the kind of person we want working in a high level IRS job.   Roll Eyes  How many other people like her work for the IRS? 

Lois Lerner Criticized GOP As 'Crazies,' 'Assholes' In Emails
 AP     | By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER
Posted: 07/30/2014

WASHINGTON (AP) — A former IRS official at the heart of the agency's tea party controversy called conservative Republicans "crazies" and more in emails released Wednesday.

Lois Lerner headed the IRS division that handles applications for tax-exempt status. In a series of emails with a colleague in November 2012, Lerner made two disparaging remarks about members of the GOP, including one remark that was profane.


Rep. Dave Camp, who chairs the House Ways and Means Committee, released the emails Wednesday as part of his committee's investigation. The Michigan Republican says the emails show Lerner's "disgust with conservatives."

In one email, Lerner called members of the GOP crazies. In the other, she called them "assholes." The committee redacted the wording to "_holes" in the material it released publicly but a committee spokeswoman confirmed to the AP that the email said "assholes."

Congress and the Justice Department are investigating whether the IRS improperly scrutinized applications for tax-exempt status from conservative groups.

Camp sent copies of the emails to the Justice Department, saying they provide further proof that Lerner willfully targeted conservatives.

Lerner has since retired from the agency. Her lawyer did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Lerner has emerged as a central figure in several congressional investigations into the IRS' handling of applications for tax-exempt status by tea party and other conservative groups. Twice Lerner refused to answer questions at congressional hearings, invoking her constitutional right against self-incrimination.

In June, the IRS told Congress that an untold number of Lerner's emails were lost when her computer hard drive crashed in 2011.

In the newly released emails, Lerner was apparently traveling in Great Britain when she uses her Blackberry to send a series of emails to a colleague at the IRS. Camp said Lerner was using her government email account.

Lerner tells her colleague that she overheard some women say America was bankrupt and "going down the tubes."

"Well, you should hear the whacko wing of the GOP," replied her colleague, whose name is blacked out. "The US is through; too many foreigners sucking the teat; time to hunker down, buy ammo and food, and prepare for the end. The right wing radio shows are scary to listen to."

Lerner replies: "Great. Maybe we are through if there are that many assholes."

Her colleague replies: "And I'm talking about the hosts of the shows. The callers are rabid."

Lerner: "So we don't need to worry about alien teRrorists. It's our own crazies that will take us down."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/30/lois-lerner-emails-_n_5634379.html
22  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: US military obtains new video of American soldier held in captivity on: Today at 09:13:31 AM
Gee, you seem very sure of yourself for a guy who claims service but won't say what job he did. 

Honestly, BB, the reason I can't give a lot of details is it didn't happen to me so I'm not really sure about the "hows and whys" of it.  I can only say what I saw and maybe wasn't paying super close attention since I spent the last year of my enlistment spending very little time on army shit (other than working my shift at the listening station) because I was spending all of my free time with my German girlfriend from Kaufbeuren who had an apartment in town because she attended Augsburg University.  (I ended up marrying her about a year after I got out).

I'm telling you, though, among the linguist and analyst MOS's in Germany in 86/87 the army seemed pretty much OK with sending people home who really didn't want to be there.  If a soldiers made a big deal out of wanting out they would immediately lose their security clearance so they'd be on casual duty for at least a few months during which they'd catch shit from other soldiers (mostly just the higher-ranked enlisted, though -- most of the other spec4's didn't really GAF).  They'd also might pick up an Article 15 (for disobedience of some kind, I guess) but other than that and some kind of less than honorable discharge, that was about it.  Like I said, there were no combat operations going on so it wasn't like a lot of folks were clamoring to leave.

BTW, I learned this stuff when I tried to talk the one guy into staying but his mind was made up and he pretty much laughed at my concerns as to what effect a crappy discharge could have on his life (he already had a degree and just wanted to go back to school for his masters).   

Now, I'm not sure why the army wasn't making a big deal about folks separating early.  Maybe it was a security clearance thing or maybe they were just trying to shed salaries.  IIRC, the army WAS giving out "early outs" at about that time.

BTW, you don't need to thank me for getting out.  Staying in was never my plan regardless of the pretty decent reenlistment bonus they'd try to dangle in front of you.  Once I maxed out my college money, it was time to leave.


I have no idea if you served.  Only thing I'm sure about is you're a friggin simpleton.  You don't know what the heck you're talking about when it comes to Soldiers just quitting.   Roll Eyes

If you did serve, getting out was great for two reasons.  1.  You would have likely been kicked out anyway.  2.  Simpletons like you get people killed.  Thank you for being a civilian. 
23  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Israel and Gaza - discussion on: Today at 09:02:40 AM
LOL.

Look my post-menopausal friend, this is a discussion board so if I don't like your simple-minded questions, I'm going to say so. 
If you have a problem with that, feel free to let me know.

Here's my question:  When it comes to the conflict between Israel and Palestine, are you dumber than Sean Hannity? 

Hmmm, many here have taken your measure, but what about Sean?:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_m98GAdqKM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_m98GAdqKM</a>

Still laughing . . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo
24  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Israel and Gaza - discussion on: Today at 09:01:25 AM
Trying to appear intelligent by posting a video of Russell Brand= Brutal self ownage



LOL!  Isn't this the guy who was fired after showing up for work dressed as Bin Laden after the 911 terrorist attacks? 
25  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Impeachment? Hahahaha on: Today at 08:59:17 AM
West and Palin are irrelevant to the process...the SD Republican Party is irrelevant to the process.   Many of the quotes you cited from other people sound like they were answering the question "could Obama be impeached?"    Coburn and Kyl are exceptions...but both of the m serve in the Senate. The impeachment process starts in the house...so they can feel free to run their mouths knowing they don't play a role in starting the process.

Again...impeachment isn't going to happen...it's stupid to keep beating the dead horse. 

Yep.  Trying to make a point by using pictures without context is pretty meaningless. 
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