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1  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Strassel: The President Has a List on: May 17, 2013, 07:03:18 PM
Romney donor bashed by Obama campaign now target of two federal audits
By Joseph Weber
Published July 24, 2012
FoxNews.com

An Idaho businessman singled out by the Obama campaign for giving $1 million in support of Mitt Romney is now the focus of IRS and Labor Department audits.

Frank VanderSloot, in an interview with FoxNews.com on Tuesday, said he received the initial audit notice from the IRS last month. Two weeks later, he got one from the Labor Department stating the agency would be looking into records related to foreign employees working at his Idaho Falls cattle ranch.

It might all be a coincidence, he said -- but the timing was peculiar.

VanderSloot gave the pro-Romney money last year to the super PAC “Restore of Future.” Then in April, he was identified along with seven other donors on an Obama campaign website as “wealthy individuals with less-than-reputable records.”

At the time, VanderSloot spoke out and accused the campaign of targeting him unfairly. Then came the audits.

“It seems coincidental, but who knows,” VanderSloot told FoxNews.com Tuesday. “The problem is the president made the list, and 61 days later I get the first letter. One has to ask: Is the fact I’m being shot at the result of having a target on my back? … Was the list made with that intent?”

VanderSloot expected some scrutiny, considering he is a co-chairman on the Romney campaign, and years of contributing to state and national races had already exposed him to the rough-and-tumble world of politics. 

He has also been targeted by liberal bloggers and an opposition research team that directed an investigator to poke around his local courthouse, looking at divorce records and other cases.

Yet VanderSloot, owner of the Melaleuca wellness product company,  never expected to be branded on an presidential campaign website as a “litigious, combative and bitter foe of the gay rights movement.”

“I had never heard anybody say that,” said VanderSloot, who speculated the anti-gay claim is largely the result of him about 13 years ago opposing the film “It’s Elementary -- Talking about Gay Issues in School” airing on public TV because it was not suitable for viewing by young children.

“Ninety percent of my gay friends agreed,” he said.

VanderSloot was prescient in his public comments after appearing on the list, musing on Fox News’ “The O’Reilly Factor” about whether the list was perhaps a tip-sheet for media critics or federal agencies.

“Am I going to get a call from the FDA … or the IRS?” he said Tuesday, echoing his comments from the show.

Still, the 63-year-old VanderSloot doesn’t think President Obama directly ordered the audits, because simply allowing the so-called "enemy list" to be posted on the original “Keeping GOP Honest” site was enough.

“I doubt he said, ‘Let’s get these guys,’ ” VanderSloot said.

The Obama campaign did not return an email seeking comment. Representatives from the IRS and Labor Department also did not return requests for comment.

The documents requested by the IRS have been turned over to his accountant, VanderSloot said, and the Labor Department audit is just getting started, but he will fully comply and expects no problems.

"I’m not worried,” he said. “We’ll be fine.”

VanderSloot also said the scrutiny has only strengthened his commitment to stay engaged in the political system.

“I am not going to stay away,” he said. “This has given me even more resolve that we need a new president.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/24/romney-donor-bashed-by-obama-campaign-now-target-two-federal-audits/

 Angry

Strassel: The IRS Scandal Started at the Top
The bureaucrats at the Internal Revenue Service did exactly what the president said was the right and honorable thing to do.
By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL

Was the White House involved in the IRS's targeting of conservatives? No investigation needed to answer that one. Of course it was.

President Obama and Co. are in full deniability mode, noting that the IRS is an "independent" agency and that they knew nothing about its abuse. The media and Congress are sleuthing for some hint that Mr. Obama picked up the phone and sicced the tax dogs on his enemies.

But that's not how things work in post-Watergate Washington. Mr. Obama didn't need to pick up the phone. All he needed to do was exactly what he did do, in full view, for three years: Publicly suggest that conservative political groups were engaged in nefarious deeds; publicly call out by name political opponents whom he'd like to see harassed; and publicly have his party pressure the IRS to take action.

Mr. Obama now professes shock and outrage that bureaucrats at the IRS did exactly what the president of the United States said was the right and honorable thing to do. "He put a target on our backs, and he's now going to blame the people who are shooting at us?" asks Idaho businessman and longtime Republican donor Frank VanderSloot.

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At the White House, President Obama addresses the IRS scandal, May 15.

Mr. VanderSloot is the Obama target who in 2011 made a sizable donation to a group supporting Mitt Romney. In April 2012, an Obama campaign website named and slurred eight Romney donors. It tarred Mr. VanderSloot as a "wealthy individual" with a "less-than-reputable record." Other donors were described as having been "on the wrong side of the law."

This was the Obama version of the phone call—put out to every government investigator (and liberal activist) in the land.

Twelve days later, a man working for a political opposition-research firm called an Idaho courthouse for Mr. VanderSloot's divorce records. In June, the IRS informed Mr. VanderSloot and his wife of an audit of two years of their taxes. In July, the Department of Labor informed him of an audit of the guest workers on his Idaho cattle ranch. In September, the IRS informed him of a second audit, of one of his businesses. Mr. VanderSloot, who had never been audited before, was subject to three in the four months after Mr. Obama teed him up for such scrutiny.

The last of these audits was only concluded in recent weeks. Not one resulted in a fine or penalty. But Mr. VanderSloot has been waiting more than 20 months for a sizable refund and estimates his legal bills are $80,000. That figure doesn't account for what the president's vilification has done to his business and reputation.

The Obama call for scrutiny wasn't a mistake; it was the president's strategy—one pursued throughout 2012. The way to limit Romney money was to intimidate donors from giving. Donate, and the president would at best tie you to Big Oil or Wall Street, at worst put your name in bold, and flag you as "less than reputable" to everyone who worked for him: the IRS, the SEC, the Justice Department. The president didn't need a telephone; he had a megaphone.

The same threat was made to conservative groups that might dare play in the election. As early as January 2010, Mr. Obama would, in his state of the union address, cast aspersions on the Supreme Court's Citizens United ruling, claiming that it "reversed a century of law to open the floodgates for special interests" (read conservative groups).

The president derided "tea baggers." Vice President Joe Biden compared them to "terrorists." In more than a dozen speeches Mr. Obama raised the specter that these groups represented nefarious interests that were perverting elections. "Nobody knows who's paying for these ads," he warned. "We don't know where this money is coming from," he intoned.

In case the IRS missed his point, he raised the threat of illegality: "All around this country there are groups with harmless-sounding names like Americans for Prosperity, who are running millions of dollars of ads against Democratic candidates . . . And they don't have to say who exactly the Americans for Prosperity are. You don't know if it's a foreign-controlled corporation."

Short of directly asking federal agencies to investigate these groups, this is as close as it gets. Especially as top congressional Democrats were putting in their own versions of phone calls, sending letters to the IRS that accused it of having "failed to address" the "problem" of groups that were "improperly engaged" in campaigns. Because guess who controls that "independent" agency's budget?

The IRS is easy to demonize, but it doesn't exist in a vacuum. It got its heading from a president, and his party, who did in fact send it orders—openly, for the world to see. In his Tuesday press grilling, no question agitated White House Press Secretary Jay Carney more than the one that got to the heart of the matter: Given the president's "animosity" toward Citizens United, might he have "appreciated or wanted the IRS to be looking and scrutinizing those . . ." Mr. Carney cut off the reporter with "That's a preposterous assertion."

Preposterous because, according to Mr. Obama, he is "outraged" and "angry" that the IRS looked into the very groups and individuals that he spent years claiming were shady, undemocratic, even lawbreaking. After all, he expects the IRS to "operate with absolute integrity." Even when he does not.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324767004578487332636180800.html?mod=ITP_opinion_0
2  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Integrity on: May 17, 2013, 06:11:07 PM
He cannot really believe this? 

PIERS MORGAN, HOST: Final question, Jay Carney. Obviously the president made a big deal when he came into office of being not like previous administrations and was going to be much more transparent. The charge today after this week is that you have had that reputation for transparency pretty heavily dented. Do you accept that and just on a general picture, how are you going to move on now and restore perhaps faith that some Americans have lost this week in your openness and honesty?

JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Well, I'm not sure, again, you're concocting scandals here that don't exist, especially with regard to the Benghazi affair that was contrived by Republicans and I think has fallen apart largely this week. The fact of the matter is that we, that this administration has a record on transparency that outdoes any previous administration's, and we are committed to that. The president is committed to that.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1305/16/pmt.01.html
3  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Benghazi is over nutjobs on: May 17, 2013, 05:06:40 PM
Ok, this is better, yet I fail to see the issue. What request? When? was increasing the force doable etc.. all these factors need to be weighed, these are subjective calls based on situation parameters. I wouldn't send in a team without proper intel, risking many lives for a few and going in blind, seems stupid, reckless and risks more lives.

This completely contradicts your contention that the lack of security was the result of budget cuts.  It was not, as Lamb plainly says. 
4  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Benghazi is over nutjobs on: May 17, 2013, 05:03:02 PM
maybe the embassy cuts shouldn't have been made. Maybe they could not increase the security due to lack of funds. How does this not register.

how is this Obama;s fault? didn't the GOP vote down protection/monetary increases and then actually approve decreases in monetary support it might make it obamas fault. But if that was a priority then that wouldn't have occurred. I mean if you are concerned about their safety would you not approve increases in spending, what would motivate you to cut spending, what benefit to security does that provide.

Come back to the real world buddy, the lack of protection was not scandalous,they weren't undermanned when you look at previous attacks and if they would have been it again was the lack of funds.

I'm dealing with the facts.  Like these:

In testimony Wednesday before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Charlene Lamb, a deputy assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security, was asked, “Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

Lamb responded, “No, sir.”


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/12/are-budget-cuts-to-blame-for-benghazi-attack-as-biden-suggested.html
5  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / MOVED: Re: Student faces charges for mooning girls on: May 17, 2013, 04:58:09 PM
This topic has been moved to V Board - General Random Threads.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=479592.0
6  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Benghazi is over nutjobs on: May 17, 2013, 04:56:56 PM
people were not properly protectedbecause its an embassy, the resources have been cut over and over and it was typical protection, it wasn't underwhelming relatively.

We didn\t have time to save them, quite simple. We know this is the case because under Bush the most embassy attacks in history occurred and the timeline was far more for the most part.

what stand down order? for the airport you mean? Why is that an issue it would have made no difference, would have risked more lives for a failedmission. This isn't braveheart, they aren't going to rush in blindly screaming for America.

They did not lie, the talking points changed, as they do in all investigations. There are arguments of semantics but again no one can point out a lie. It's all general non specific banter. The talking points changed, show me how they changed, I see sematic arguments that are reachs at best.

Then you have doctored emails, if the case was as easy as you affirm this surely isn't needed. Also, if this act is demonstrable as claimed surely he would be impeached.

It has already been admitted by members of the Obama administration that the reduction in the budget for embassy security had nothing to do with the denial of requests for additional security in Benghazi.  

Yes, we likely had time to safe two of them, if immediate action was taken.  

Yes, they lied.  Hicks testified it was an attack.  The CIA said in their initial draft that it was Al Qaeda.  The administration inserted the word "demonstration," removed all references to Al Qaeda, and then tried to sell a demonstration as a result of a video.  That was an outright lie.  

Carney also lied when he said the only change they made was one word.  

Did you actually read the article you posted about the "doctored" emails?  
7  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Integrity on: May 17, 2013, 04:50:39 PM
What about Ms. Lerner?

Democrat Crowley: IRS' Lerner Should Be Fired for Lying
Friday, 17 May 2013
By Christiana Lilly

Rep. Joe Crowley Friday all but accused Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner of lying to Congress about the agency's targeting of conservative groups and joined Rep. Sander Levin in calling for her immediate resignation or firing.

Crowley, a New York Democrat, said Friday on MSNBC's Jansing & Co. that Lerner "failed to answer the question" when she was asked at a Ways and Means Oversight Subcommittee hearing last week if the IRS was investigating political 501 (c) (4) groups that had applied for tax-exempt status through the agency division she headed.

"She then two days later planted a question at a press event, only to then use that opportunity to apologize for what the IRS had been doing," Crowley continued.

He said he confronted her later and she denied that she had even been asked about the targeting effort at the hearing.

"The truth was, I had asked in Congress at a committee hearing two days earlier," Crowley said, adding: "If you're Miss Lerner, you're worried about your career right now."

Crowley and Michigan Democrat Levin, the top two members of their party on the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee, called for Lerner to resign, and failing that, to be fired for her conduct in trying to control fallout from IRS controversy, which has now turned into a full-blown scandal.

Crowley insisted, however, that the White House was not aware or involved in the targeting effort, citing the inspector general's report released earlier this week indicating it did not stretch beyond the tax collection agency.

Like Republicans, he said he was angry, too, but added that GOP lawmakers are wrong to claim that Obama knew about it or, even worse, had orchestrated it, much as Richard Nixon had done with the Watergate cover-up nearly 41 years ago.

"It’s about partisanship once again and trying to somehow link this to the White House. It’s the same old, same old, exactly what people are really angry about what is happening in Washington today," he said, criticizing the GOP.

"Really we should all be outraged by what took place. I am. No political entity ought to be investigated or gone after by the IRS."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/crowley-irs-lerner-lying/2013/05/17/id/505096
8  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Integrity on: May 17, 2013, 04:47:30 PM
The AG (and I think the president") said this leak "put the American people at risk."  Is he telling the truth? 

Questions raised over administration claim that AP leak put Americans at risk
Published May 17, 2013
FoxNews.com

WASHINGTON –  Americans were in danger.

That was the chief argument Attorney General Eric Holder tried to make this week for why Justice Department officials seized two months' worth of phone records of reporters and editors at The Associated Press.

But the AP has strongly refuted from the start claims that it put the country in danger. The accusation that the news organization risked national security isn’t sitting so well with other journalists and lawmakers who have started pushing back on the claims.

“We held that story until the government assured us that the national security concerns had passed,” AP President Gary Pruitt said in a written response to the Justice Department's claims.
A report from The Washington Post appeared to give more weight to the AP's claims. 

According to the Post, the AP had been sitting on a scoop about a failed Al Qaeda plot at the request of CIA officials for five days. The morning they were supposed to release the story, journalists were asked by government officials to wait another day, citing safety concerns.

However, the CIA officials who first cited the security concerns said they no longer had the same worries. Rather, the Obama administration was planning to announce the success of the counterterrorism project the following day, according to The Post report.

After a series of negotiations, the AP ultimately decided to publish. Months later, the Obama administration seized the phone records – home, work and cell -- of 20 AP reporters and editors.

The government says it was trying to hunt down the AP government source who leaked information about a top secret U.S. operation to thwart an Al Qaeda plan to blow up an airliner.
Holder said earlier this week that it was one of the most serious leaks he's encountered, and it put the American people "at risk."

One White House official told the Post that the reason the administration was planning to go public with the operation was because they knew the AP was planning a story.

But the argument doesn’t hold up, some say, because the day after it was released, the White House’s top counterterrorism adviser went on “Good Morning America” and talked about how successful the operation had been. John Brennan, now CIA director, praised the work of U.S. intelligence officials and said that the Al Qaeda plot was never an active threat to the American public.

Brennan’s comments seem to challenge the reason the government pressed the news organization to hold the story as well as Holder’s claims that the leak and published report endangered Americans.

On Tuesday, Holder defended the department’s secret examination of the AP phone records even though he went on to say he had recused himself from the case. He could not offer details on the investigation.

In all, the government pulled the April 2012-May 2012 telephone records from four AP bureaus including Washington and New York.

The department's actions angered many lawmakers and First Amendment groups.

Pruitt called the Justice Department’s actions “a massive and unprecedented intrusion.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/17/sources-say-cia-claims-that-ap-put-americans-at-risk-is-false/
9  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Student faces charges for mooning girls on: May 17, 2013, 04:23:20 PM
whatever, a mod that can even do his job,would we expect anything more from you,     no  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I am crushed. 
10  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Student faces charges for mooning girls on: May 17, 2013, 04:15:27 PM
yeah so i guess we can stretch anything to a political topic  Roll Eyes

Plus it's an interesting story.  And funny. 

If you don't like it, don't read it. 
11  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Student faces charges for mooning girls on: May 17, 2013, 04:12:58 PM
why is this on the political board

It involves a potential unjust criminal prosecution, potential First Amendment issue, an issue of whether the law should be changed, etc. 
12  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Leaked Emails Were EDITED To Make Obama LOOK BAD on: May 17, 2013, 04:09:38 PM
you being a mod should know to stick on topic,so can you show the emails were not edited  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy more smiley faces

You said "that's the problem with you you don't deal with facts."  You mean facts like these?
 
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Source: ABC News

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice said the attack on the American consulate in Benghazi was not premeditated, directly contradicting top Libyan officials who say the attack was planned in advance.

“Our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo,” Rice told me this morning on “This Week.”

“In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated,” Rice said, referring to protests in Egypt Tuesday over a film that depicts the Prophet Muhammad as a fraud. Protesters in Cairo breached the walls of the U.S. American Embassy, tearing apart an American flag.

“We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to – or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo,” Rice said. “And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons… And it then evolved from there.”

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/ambassador-susan-rice-libya-attack-not-premeditated/

13  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Sports Discussion Boards / Re: Snack O'Neal on: May 17, 2013, 03:58:58 PM
Shaq won because of Wade.  He was a shell of his former self.  That championship was all Wade. 

Kobe needed Pau, but not necessarily Bynum.  Bynum was injured and didn't play for larges stretches during their championship run. 
14  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Leaked Emails Were EDITED To Make Obama LOOK BAD on: May 17, 2013, 03:50:08 PM
that's the problem with you you don't deal with facts   typ. far right nutjob  Cheesy

You mean like these?  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=441173.0
15  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama appointments are unconstitutional on: May 17, 2013, 03:48:39 PM


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Second appeals court invalidates Obama's NLRB recess appointments
 


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By TAL KOPAN |
5/16/13 12:10 PM EDT


A second appeals court has joined the D.C. Circuit in ruling that President Barack Obama’s recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board were unconstitutional, concluding that some board actions taken in the wake of those appointments were also invalid.
 
The issue has far-reaching implications for both the NLRB and other boards, including Obama’s Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which has been a frequent target of conservatives and whose director was a recess appointment.
 
The 2-1 decision Thursday from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit (posted here) found that the presidential recess appointment power is limited to breaks between sessions of Congress, not breaks within sessions or other adjournments during which the Senate might meet in pro forma sessions. The reasoning mirrors that in a ruling of the D.C. Circuit Court in January.
 
(Also on POLITICO: Obama tries to stop the bleeding)
 
The 3rd Circuit case centered on decisions the NLRB made on the authority of three members including Craig Becker, who was appointed by the president on March 27, 2010, while the Senate was adjourned for two weeks.
 
The case was brought by a New Jersey nursing and rehabilitation center whose nurses were allowed to form a union by one such NLRB decision. The facility, New Vista, contended that the board’s decision was invalid because it did not have enough members active when the decision was issued because the naming of Becker to the board was not a valid recess appointment.
 
The NLRB must have three members participate in a decision for it to be valid, and the court found that because Becker was not appointed during a break between sessions of Congress, he was not a valid member of the board and thus invalidated the NLRB’s orders.
 
The opinion, written by Judge D. Brooks Smith, said the recess clause of the Constitution should be read not just to give the president executive power, but also to preserve the “advice and consent” role of the Senate.
 
In his dissent, Judge Joseph. A Greenaway Jr. said the majority’s reading of the clause was needlessly narrow and ignored the Founding Fathers' intent to give the president the ability to act when the Senate is not available to “advise and consent.”
 
The administration late last month petitioned the Supreme Court to overturn the D.C. Circuit Court’s ruling on the issue.
 
The decision comes the same day that the Senate Help Subcommittee held a hearing on five nominations to the NLRB. Sen. Tom Harkin said they nominations would be moved next Wednesday.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2013/05/second-appeals-court-invalidates-obamas-nlrb-recess-164150.html




bbbaaaddaaaabbbooommmmm

I know Lurker likes to quote himself.  Will save him a little trouble.    Smiley

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Recess appointments have been blissfully sailing along for 150 years, and, now, when the legislative branch starts playing games with it, the executive branch pays the price.

Great job Party of No!  Except here are a few facts.

1. Republicans refuse to consider his nominations for almost any job. Hundreds of judgeships remain vacant because they simply won't even look at the nominations. Typical of their outrageous obstructionism.

2. At the time of the "recess appointments," Congress was neither in session or in town!

3. Typical of of their obstructionism, before they left town, they passed a resolution saying that, even though no one was in D.C.. they were still in session.

4. The Court, in this ruling, says that they were.

5. Most importantly, they are wrong, and their wrong-headed decision will be overturned. Count on it.
16  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / MOVED: Just had an earthquake in Toronto on: May 17, 2013, 03:46:38 PM
This topic has been moved to General Topics.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=479551.0
17  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: DOJ Secretly Obtains Months Of AP Records; AP Condemns 'Unprecedented Intrusion' on: May 17, 2013, 03:45:54 PM
Question 6:  Why didn't the White House find the person in their own backyard who leaked info? 
18  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Marine and Obama on: May 17, 2013, 03:44:06 PM
disrespectful? wow, for the world's "toughest hardened soldiers", you guys sure have thin skins. this is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. regardless of whether you agree or disagree with his politics, holding an umbrella for him should be an honor, especially for someone who supposedly swears an oath to him.

i swear only american servicemen are this fucking entitled, in literally any other country this would be a non-issue.

and what the fuck kind of sexist pig bullshit is it that servicewomen can hold an umbrella but servicemen can't? and then you wonder why everyone else thinks usa is an ass-backwards country.

Holding an umbrella over a grown man's head is not an honor.  If he was disabled or elderly, yes. 
19  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Wow, This is Pretty Epic (Republicans manufactured evidence on Benghazi) on: May 17, 2013, 03:42:58 PM
Josh Marshall

Generally, once partisan, tendentious sources leak information that turns out to be wrong, nothing’s ever done about it. That’s for many reasons, some good or somewhat understandable, mostly bad. But on CBS Evening News tonight, Major Garrett did something I don’t feel like I’ve seen in a really long time or maybe ever on a network news cast. He basically said straight out: Republicans told us these were the quotes, that wasn’t true. Quick transcript after the jump …
 

SCOTT PELLEY: Also at his news conference today the president called for tighter security for U.S. diplomatic facilities to prevent an attack like the one in Benghazi, Libya, last year that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. Of course, Benghazi has become a political controversy. Republicans claim that the Administration watered down the facts in talking points that were given to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice for television appearances while Mr. Obama was running for reelection. Republicans on Capitol Hill claim that they had found proof of this in White House e-mails that they leaked to reporters last week. Well, it turns out some of the quotes in those e-mails were wrong. Major Garrett is at the White House for us tonight. Major?
 
MAJOR GARRETT: Scott, Republicans have claimed that the State Department under Hillary Clinton was trying to protect itself from criticism. The White House released the real e-mails late yesterday and here’s what we found when we compared them to the quotes that had been provided by Republicans. One e-mail was written by Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes. On Friday, Republicans leaked what they said was a quote from Rhodes. “We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities, including those of the State Department, and we don’t want to undermine the FBI investigation.” But it turns out, in the actual e-mail Rhodes did not mention the State Department. It read “We need to resolve this in a way that respects all the relevant equities, particularly the investigation.” Republicans also provided what they said was a quote from an e-mail written by State Department Spokesman Victoria Nuland. The Republican version notes Nuland discussing: “The penultimate point is a paragraph talking about all the previous warnings provided by the Agency (CIA) about al-Qaeda’s presence and activities of al-Qaeda.” The actual e-mail from Nuland says: the “…penultimate point could be abused by Members to beat the State Department for not paying attention to Agency warnings…” The C.I.A. agreed with the concerns raised by the State Department and revised the talking points to make them less specific than the C.I.A.’s original version, eliminating references to al-Qaeda and affiliates and earlier security warnings. There is no evidence, Scott, the White House orchestrated these changes.

(ed.note: This is a rush transcription so some spelling and capitalization is off.)
 
http://editors.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/05/wow_this_is_pretty_epic.php


There were meaningful Benghazi lies after all

By Steve Benen

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But if we're going to talk about real political scandals, can we at least have a conversation about Republicans lying to reporters about Benghazi?
 
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For those who can't watch clips online, CBS's Major Garrett told viewers last night something news consumers don't usually see or hear: House Republicans gave journalists bogus information, apparently on purpose, in the hopes of advancing the right's version of the Benghazi story.
 
As Josh Marshall explained, "Generally, once partisan, tendentious sources leak information that turns out to be wrong, nothing's ever done about it. That's for many reasons, some good or somewhat understandable, mostly bad. But on CBS Evening News tonight, Major Garrett did something I don't feel like I've seen in a really long time or maybe ever on a network news cast. He basically said straight out: Republicans told us these were the quotes; that wasn't true."
 
Given what we now know, congressional Republicans saw all of these materials in March, couldn't find anything controversial, and moved on. But last week, desperate to manufacture a scandal, unnamed Republicans on Capitol Hill started giving "quotes" from the materials to reporters, making it seem as if the White House made politically motivated edits of Benghazi talking points.
 
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Maybe this was just an innocent mistake, rather than a deliberate attempt at deception? Nope: "On Monday, Mother Jones noted that the Republicans' interim report included the correct version of the emails, signaling that more malice and less incompetence may have been at play with the alleged alterations."
 
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http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/05/17/18319321-there-were-meaningful-benghazi-lies-after-all
 




Cutting and pasting from DU again.   Roll Eyes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022857236
20  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Benghazi is over nutjobs on: May 17, 2013, 03:40:52 PM
Let's assume misleading storyline is true.  Still does nothing to answer the questions about why our people were not properly protected, why we didn't try and save them, who gave the stand-down order, and why the government repeatedly lied. 
21  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Student faces charges for mooning girls on: May 17, 2013, 03:37:40 PM
Arrested?  Jail?  This is crazy.  Good thing I didn't grow up in Pennsylvania.   Undecided

Student faces charges for mooning girls
Fri May 10, 2013

CHESTNUT TOWNSHIP, Penn. -  A high school senior was banned from participating in graduation and faces criminal charges after mooning two eighth-grade girls, according to video from WBRE.

Larry Liero, 18, was escorted out of school in handcuffs after baring his buttocks to the girls as they toured Pleasant Valley High School, according to his father.

"I definitely was very upset with him," the father, Chad Liero, said.

The student was charged with disorderly conduct and open lewdness, a third-degree misdemeanor. The maximum penalty for that type of charge in Pennsylvania is one year in prison, WBRE said.

http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/free/20130510pennsylvania-student-mooning-charges.html
22  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Integrity on: May 16, 2013, 08:04:47 PM
LOL I'm calling for his impeachment.  Are you?  Smiley

Of course not.  You don't have a clue why you're "calling for his impeachment."  lol  

I didn't vote for him.  Did you?  
23  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Impeachment on: May 16, 2013, 07:25:48 PM
I don't believe we'll ever see another President face impeachment. Far too many politics involved.

Probably not.
24  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Political Board, Caption this pic on: May 16, 2013, 07:22:24 PM
He's my Bitch

Probably the most accurate one.
25  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Integrity on: May 16, 2013, 07:04:06 PM
are we REALLY going to sit around and talk about if obama has this or that touchy-feely emotion?

Or are we going to impeach him?

I mean seriously, is this the kinda tampax-sponsored little cryfest we want to have?  It's 2013... who in their right mind still doesn't know that obama lacks integrity?   It's been 5 years of his rule.... who still wakes up in the morning and doesn't know he's a corrupt Bush III cronie who doesn't give a shit about americans?

I can't believe this is a thread, i really cannot.  fvkc.

Oh shut the heck up.  You had Obama's penis firmly implanted in your mouth for the last four years.  You kneedpadded the man as much or more than anyone on this board.  Get the heck out of here with that disingenuous impeachment talk.   Roll Eyes

Oh, and have a nice day.   Smiley
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