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26  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 20, 2014, 01:23:14 PM
The narrative of these idiot protestors will in no way be affected by these new facts  Undecided

And the missouri gov who made that idiotic statement should be disgraced.

He's a former State Attorney General, which makes his comments even more outrageous. 
27  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 20, 2014, 12:48:53 PM
I'm not surprised.  If true, officer Wilson is going to have his career and life turned upside down because fools can't control themselves.

True.  He's probably done as a cop in that town.  His life will be in danger, regardless of what the facts show. 
28  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 20, 2014, 12:14:58 PM
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source
By Hollie McKay
Published August 20, 2014
FoxNews.com

Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.

“The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,” said the insider. “He was beaten very severely.”

According to the well-placed source, Wilson was coming off another case in the neighborhood on Aug. 9 when he ordered Michael Brown and his friend Dorain Johnson to stop walking in the middle of the road because they were obstructing traffic. However, the confrontation quickly escalated into physical violence, the source said..

“They ignored him and the officer started to get out of the car to tell them to move," the source said. "They shoved him right back in, that’s when Michael Brown leans in and starts beating Officer Wilson in the head and the face.

The source claims that there is "solid proof" that there was a struggle between Brown and Wilson for the policeman’s firearm, resulting in the gun going off – although it still remains unclear at this stage who pulled the trigger. Brown started to walk away according to the account, prompting Wilson to draw his gun and order him to freeze. Brown, the source said, raised his hands in the air, and turned around saying, "What, you're going to shoot me?"

At that point, the source told FoxNews.com, the 6 foot, 4 inch, 292-pound Brown charged Wilson, prompting the officer to fire at least six shots at him, including the fatal bullet that penetrated the top of Brown's skull, according to an independent autopsy conducted at the request of Brown's family.

Wilson suffered a fractured eye socket in the fracas, and was left dazed by the initial confrontation, the source said. He is now "traumatized, scared for his life and his family, injured and terrified" that a grand jury, which began hearing evidence on Wednesday, will "make some kind of example out of him," the source said.

The source also said the dashboard and body cameras, which might have recorded crucial evidence, had been ordered by Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson, but had only recently arrived and had not yet been deployed.

St. Louis County police, who have taken over the investigation, did not return requests for comment about possible injuries suffered by Wilson.

Edward Magee, spokesman for St. Louis County Prosecutor Robert McCullough, said the office will not disclose the nature of the evidence it will reveal to a grand jury.

"We'll present every piece of evidence we have, witness statements, et cetera, to the grand jury, and we do not release any evidence or talk about evidence on the case."

Nabil Khattar, CEO of 7Star Industries – which specializes in firearms training for law enforcement and special operations personnel – confirmed that police are typically instructed to use deadly force if in imminent danger of being killed or suffering great bodily injury.

“You may engage a threat with enough force that is reasonably necessary to defend against that danger,” he said.

Wilson is a six-year veteran of the Ferguson police force department, and has no prior disciplinary infringements.

Massive protests have since taken over the St. Louis community, prompting Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon last Thursday to place Highway Patrol Capt. Ron Johnson at the helm of security operations in an effort to calm ongoing tensions. The federal government is also investigating the death, and Attorney General Eric Holder has taken the lead – calling “the selective release of sensitive information” in the case “troubling.”

On Friday, Ferguson police released surveillance video showing Brown stealing cigars from a convenience store just before his death. Jackson came under intense criticism for disclosing the tape and a related police report as he also insisted that the alleged robbery and the encounter with Wilson were unrelated matters. Brown’s family, through their attorney, suggested the tape’s release was a strategic form of “character assassination.”

However, FoxNews.com’s source insisted that there was absolutely no spin agenda behind the tape’s release and that there were a number of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) media requests filed by media outlets seeking it. Tom Jackson is said to have waited on publicly releasing it, and did not want it shown until Brown’s grieving mother first had the chance to see it.

“He defied the FOIAs as long as he could,” noted the insider. “A powerful, ugly spin has completely ruined public discourse on this whole situation.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20/missouri-cop-was-badly-beaten-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/
29  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Radical Islam on: August 20, 2014, 12:12:21 PM
US intel confirms journalist execution video 'authentic,' Obama vows 'relentless' fight against ISIS
Published August 20, 2014
FoxNews.com

President Obama, reacting to the brutal execution of an American journalist by Islamic State terrorists, said Wednesday that the militant organization has "no place in the 21st century," as U.S. intelligence analysts confirmed the authenticity of a video showing the journalist's beheading.

The president, in brief remarks from Martha's Vineyard, said the video of James Foley's death "shocks the conscience," while vowing to continue the fight against the organization which has taken root across swaths of Iraq and Syria. He called for a "common effort" across the Middle East to "extract this cancer so it does not spread."

"The United States of America will continue to do what we must do to protect our people," Obama said. "We will be vigilant and we will be relentless."

Military analysts and U.S. lawmakers also say the execution should be a wake-up call to the need to dismantle the militant organization. 

The remarks come after the White House National Security Council released a brief statement saying the intelligence community reviewed the video and has "reached the judgment that this video is authentic." Obama said he spoke with Foley's parents earlier Wednesday.

The beheading marks the first time the Islamic State -- also known as ISIS, or ISIL -- has killed an American citizen since the Syrian conflict broke out in March 2011, upping the stakes in an increasingly chaotic and multilayered war.

“America got a glimpse of exactly who they are,” House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, R-Mich., told Fox News on Wednesday. “This is a group you need to deal with.”

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., called the "brutal execution" of a hostage "the clearest indication to date that ISIL has declared war on the United States."

The militants in the video railed against U.S. airstrikes in Iraq and threatened to kill a second American journalist, depending on Obama’s “next decision” – an apparent reference to U.S. military policy in the region.

The video puts pressure on the White House to weigh the risks of ramping up airstrikes in Iraq targeting the Islamic State, and the possibility that militants could kill more Americans in response.

But in an indication that the U.S. response is not changing, a U.S. official said American fighter jets and drones conducted nearly a dozen strikes in Iraq since Tuesday. The official told the Associated Press the airstrikes were in the area of the Mosul Dam and were aimed at helping Iraqi and Kurdish forces create a buffer zone at the key facility.

Rogers and others said the video only underscores the need to develop a clear strategy for defeating the group. Rogers said this week’s success, for instance, in helping Iraqi and Kurdish forces retake the Mosul Dam from militants must be part of a “bigger strategy.” 

“That [video] ought to get us off our backsides and get to work on dismantling this organization. It’s dangerous,” he told Fox News.

“We have to be taking severe military action,” Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, a former military intelligence officer now with the Center for Advanced Defense Studies, told Fox News, saying “boots on the ground” are not necessarily needed to do that.

“We do have the ability to start walking back ISIS, we can't wait,” he said, echoing lawmakers’ concerns that the group will try to attack New York City, Washington and other American targets if they can.

Retired Gen. Michael Hayden, former director of the CIA and National Security Agency, raised the same issue.

“What we've seen with this video is the character of the Islamic State. Do you want that to continue to exist and thrive and grow and be able to threaten other Americans?” he said on Fox News.

Foley's family also confirmed his death in a statement posted on a Facebook page that was created to rally support for his release, saying they "have never been prouder of him."

"He gave his life trying to expose the world to the suffering of the Syrian people," said the statement, which was attributed to Foley's mother, Diane Foley. She implored the militants to spare the lives of other hostages. "Like Jim, they are innocents. They have no control over American government policy in Iraq, Syria or anywhere in the world."

Foley, 40, from Rochester, N.H., disappeared in northern Syria in November 2012. He had previously reported for several outlets, including Stars and Stripes, but was freelancing for Agence France-Presse and the Boston-based media company GlobalPost at the time. The car he was riding in was stopped by four militants in a contested battle zone that both Sunni rebel fighters and government forces were trying to control. He had not been heard from since.

The group is the heir apparent of the militancy known as Al Qaeda in Iraq, which beheaded many of its victims, including American businessman Nicholas Berg in 2004.

The video released on websites Tuesday appears to show the increasing sophistication of the Islamic State group's media unit and begins with scenes of Obama explaining his decision to order airstrikes.

It then cuts to a balding man in an orange jumpsuit kneeling in the desert, next to a black-clad militant with a knife to his throat. Foley's name appears in both English and Arabic graphics on screen. After the captive speaks, the masked man is shown apparently beginning to cut at his neck; the video fades to black before the beheading is completed. The next shot appears to show the captive lying dead on the ground, his head on his body. The video appears to have been shot in an arid area; there is no vegetation to be seen and the horizon is in the distance where the sand meets the gray-blue sky.

At the end of the video, a militant speaking with a British accent shows a second man, who was identified as another American journalist, Steven Sotloff, and warns that he could be the next captive killed. Sotloff was kidnapped near the Syrian-Turkish border in August 2013; he had freelanced for Time, the National Interest and MediaLine.

New Hampshire lawmakers condemned the killing. Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., called it a "cowardly act of terrorism" that "underscores the threat that ISIL poses to the freedoms we hold dear."

In a statement Tuesday evening, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., who sits on the House Intelligence Committee, also called the act "appalling."

“Seldom is the descriptor 'evil' applied with perfect accuracy as it is with this monstrous group that glories in death," he said. "They know no human decency -- murdering journalists, beheading religious minorities refusing to convert, victimizing women and children, and starving entire communities.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/20/beheading-video-prompts-calls-for-us-to-escalate-campaign-against-isis/
30  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Police State - Official Thread on: August 20, 2014, 12:10:54 PM
Why's it always gotta be a brown dog? Why don't they ever post pics of police searching white dogs??

 Cheesy

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdSYhwLENvM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdSYhwLENvM</a>
31  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 20, 2014, 12:09:44 PM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B092acMImJE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B092acMImJE</a>

Truth.
32  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama is a utter disgrace and needs to resign his office asap on: August 20, 2014, 12:02:54 PM
not only that... but when over a third of the nation already supports impeachment, and 33 has yelled about it since 2010...

Suddenly, overnight, he backs off impeachment because "it may give us more seats in congress".

and obama's back up to 42% on gallup.  unreal.

Link?
33  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 20, 2014, 10:30:10 AM
Me, too!!

Who says there are no such things as miracles?  Grin

lol   Cheesy
34  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 20, 2014, 10:29:29 AM
Did you hear the Missouri Governor's statement?  Absolutely outrageous.  Calling for a prosecution.  Repeatedly saying there needs to be justice for the kid's family.  Maybe I missed it, but I didn't hear anything about protecting the officer's Constitutional rights.  Talk about a lynch mob environment.  

It is Zimmerman/Martin part deux.
35  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 20, 2014, 10:20:10 AM
I'm tired of seeing this shit on tv and all these people glorifying this thug.all the evidence so far fits the cops story. the two liars I mean witnesses that said brown turned around and was giving up are full of shit,remember they also said brown was being shot at and hit while walking away and they knew this because his body was jerking when the bullets were hitting him,the autopsy has proven them wrong so you can take the two liars I mean witnesses testimonies and throw them out the window.there are real issues in America and and all these people look like fools rallying around this thug

I'm on the verge of agreeing with blacken.   Shocked
36  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Rick "Hoodrat" Perry Mugshot on: August 20, 2014, 10:17:36 AM
REPORT: Perry Grand Juror Was Active Dem Party Delegate During Proceedings... Developing...

http://mediatrackers.org/national/2014/08/20/perry-grand-juror-active-democratic-party-delegate-jury-proceedings

What the heck is she doing not only serving on that grand jury, but talking about it?  Aren't those proceedings supposed to be secret?
37  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 19, 2014, 09:20:06 PM
Can you please post the report of the police shooter's bloodwork also?

It'd be pretty biased of the police dept to test a dead man, but not the man who shot him.

Given the PD, I'm not hugely surprised, however. 

No.  You can run down that rabbit trail all by your lonesome.
38  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 19, 2014, 08:52:37 PM
I don't either.  But they should still check him.  Also who reported Brown appeared to be under the influence of weed?

Most people are required to pee in a cup for a slip-and-fall at work, but not for a shooting?

I posted the link to the report about Brown having weed in his system. 
39  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 19, 2014, 07:18:43 PM
Maybe he wasn't amped up on weed.  Or drunk.

Maybe he was spiked up on ECA and Adderall and poping no-doz like candy.  They had 23,000 warrants among 21,000 citizens in that shitty little town.   Sounds like the cops worked a lot.  

However, if you doubt this was the case, we can just let it go.

Maybe he smoked a pcp-laced cigarette that had been dipped in LSD, after being kept in a bag of cocaine.  

I don't recall reading or hearing any credible source saying the cop appeared to be under the influence of anything, other than fear.  
40  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 19, 2014, 07:12:33 PM
Really interested to see what the full police officer toxicology report shows.  Or do they only test half of the people in a violent confrontation... and not the one under state authority with the gun who is still breathing?  LOL weird.

Also, IMO, it looks to be a case of the cop giving the dude grief for not obeying the crosswalk.   the dude over-reacting and starting shit, some confusion back and forth about who's gona do what, and after fleeing, the dude came back at the cop and got shot for it.   Legal shoot.

Yes, you can worry about whether the officer was drunk or high on duty.  I doubt that was the case.  But I'm sure you'll be one of the few people concerned about it. 

You can try and be on all sides of an issue, but it doesn't make you sound very smart.  This wasn't a cop giving a "dude grief for not obeying the crosswalk."  Why do you constantly make stuff up?  The reports are that they were walking down the middle of the street. 

I don't know if it was a "legal shoot," and neither does any reasonably intelligent person who is waiting for the facts to develop. 
41  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 19, 2014, 06:18:06 PM
The evidence being released so far does support the officer's story.  I also find it hard to believe that the officer would just execute someone in broad daylight surrounded by numerous witnesses.  Anything is possible, but just doesn't make sense at this point.   

Really interested to see what the full toxicology report shows.  Would like to know the amount of marijuana in his system and whether there are any other drugs present. 
42  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Police State - Official Thread on: August 19, 2014, 05:53:48 PM
I have not read or posted in this thread, but I thought I would try and make a meaningful contribution anyway.   Cheesy

43  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 19, 2014, 04:35:18 PM

No, I meant people that I've actually talked to - family, friends, work, etc.  No doubt some have, but I think a lot of this is part and parcel to the police response.


It's not like the cop's side is any surprise.  He wasn't going to claim that he executed the guy on his knees for a minor skirmish, all of which he wrote down on paper before going to work and acting out the murder.  Roll Eyes
Of course he's going to claim he was in fear for his life.  Acting as though the cop has released some shocking news is just as absurd, IMO.



Understood.  I don't find either the cop's or kid's family response surprising.  The cops are probably always going to say it was a justified use of force, or at a minimum that they're investigating.  The family is going to paint the kid as a choir boy. 

I do think the orbital fracture was surprising.  I didn't expect that. 
44  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Senate Democrats complaining how out of touch and detached Obama is on: August 19, 2014, 03:55:42 PM
"Documentary" ... Lol! I'm not attacking D'Souza. I actually admire his ability to make a nice living and support his lifestyle on the backs of retards like you. He's filled the "conservative" Michael Moore spot pretty nicely. You, on the other hand, are a hopeless case if you believe Obama is anything other than an elitist on a very successful personal quest to power and fortune.


Yes, a documentary you haven't seen. 

D'Souza made a nice living off the money I spent to watch his documentary?  That, again, sounds like something you're pulling out of your rear end.

I probably know a little more about Obama than you after having watched the documentary, but it sounds like you know more about this new world order, etc. thing.  Good for you.
45  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 19, 2014, 02:28:57 PM
The vast majority of people have totally jumped the gun on this.  They believe the bullshit because they want to


I agree.  And how do you walk your position back when you have publicly called this an execution?  Good lessons again, but only for people willing to learn.
46  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Senate Democrats complaining how out of touch and detached Obama is on: August 19, 2014, 02:26:54 PM
Of course not. Ideology is for simpletons. D'Souza is rich thanks to the large number of them; take yourself for example. Politics is a business. The endgame is power and money.  

I see.  So you have no idea what the documentary shows, you just decided to attack the director.  That's pretty simplistic.  Irony.

You really personify Skip's Rules.   Smiley
47  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 19, 2014, 02:21:11 PM


Meh...I haven't talked to anyone who has made up their minds about the shooting itself.

I've come across plenty who are on one side or another regarding how the cops responded to things.  And, I think it's the police response that has basically continued to escalate the matter.



You didn't see the huffington post headline saying arrest the cop?  Or the CNN interview of the kid's family by Lemon where he was a straight up advocate?  What about the NFL players doing the "hands up" demonstration?  It's a circus. 

I know a number of people who have made up their minds. 
48  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Senate Democrats complaining how out of touch and detached Obama is on: August 19, 2014, 02:17:32 PM
Is that the one directed by the convicted felon who cheated on his wife?

That would be the one, full of interviews of people and documents supporting what John Matrix said. 

Did you watch it?
49  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Senate Democrats complaining how out of touch and detached Obama is on: August 19, 2014, 01:41:37 PM
His goal as president was to take america down a notch, and implement as much of the redistributionist/socialist/'social justice' agenda as he can.
He seems indifferent because he doesnt really care about anything other than that.

His entire upbringing and 'career' was spent with leftist '60's radicals and black power leaders, all of whom openly hated america and wanted to 'tear down the system' completely and move towards socialism. All his actions so far as president have reflected this mentality.

True.  That really came across in the 2016 Obama's America documentary. 
50  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Senate Democrats complaining how out of touch and detached Obama is on: August 19, 2014, 01:19:41 PM
This must really keep Obama up at night. Either this or wondering how he's going to spend the $100 million plus in speaking fees he's going to make after he leaves office.

His indifference is partly what makes him a poor leader. 
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