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51  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz on: July 23, 2014, 11:34:54 AM
Makes no sense. It doesnt take 6 years for the word to reach latin america, nor does it take them 6 years to get here.

The law they are blaming was passed in 2008. If this law is to blame for the current rush, why didnt this rush begin in 2008-2009? It is nothing more than the Left scrambling to find someone (bush lol) other than themselves to blame for this mess.

I agree.
52  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 23, 2014, 11:32:50 AM
Was he railing against the entire concept of capitalism or a facet or what he sees as an abuses with-in the frame work capitalism?

Like i said, if he's a member of the communist party promoting it and such, then YES he's a hypocrite.  But criticizing abuses?  NO.

That's like calling me a Raider fan if i say the Niner's O-line was over rated in 2013.

The entire concept:

Capitalism is an organized system to guarantee that greed becomes the primary force of our economic system and allows the few at the top to get very wealthy and has the rest of us riding around thinking we can be that way, too - if we just work hard enough, sell enough Tupperware and Amway products, we can get a pink Cadillac.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/michaelmoo580038.html#pyywPmHGUHBi2XRW.99

Capitalism is against the things that we say we believe in - democracy, freedom of choice, fairness. It's not about any of those things now. It's about protecting the wealthy and legalizing greed.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/michaelmoo579994.html

53  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 5 NYPD cops choke unarmed man to death on: July 23, 2014, 11:23:11 AM
The chokehold is illegal. It's illegal because it can lead to death unexpectedly. The man's being irate played no more a part in his death than him being an oxygen-consuming organism did. Saying the man played a role in his own death IS an intellectually dishonest attempt to justify the cop's actions. (I know intellectual dishonesty is your stock-in-trade, BB, but even for you this is weak.)

Your position is illogical.  If you are saying he would have been put in a chokehold had he not been irate and resisted arrest, then you are being intellectually dishonest.  

And if you actually read what I said, I specifically said the fact the man played a role in his own death does not justify illegal behavior by cops (assuming what they did was illegal).

Don't confuse an explanation with justification.
54  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 23, 2014, 10:26:25 AM
I am not a Michael Moore fan.  I think he's a fat loud mouthed slob.   His 911 movie was over dramatized and manipulative as far as i am concerned.

I didn't watch Capitalism a love story because of it.

But unless he's a member of the communist party, i don't see how its a direct hypocrisy.  Not even a indirectly really.

He's a capitalist for sure that has some issues about some facets or products of capitalism.

You don't see a contradiction between someone railing against capitalism while at same time profiting off of capitalism?  And it's not just profiting, it's placing himself in the top one percent, using an anti-capaitalist message to get there.
55  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz on: July 23, 2014, 09:55:43 AM
Still no reply.

I did:

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The first link is one you already posted.  The second and third say the same thing as the first.  None of them answer the question I asked, which is whether these are the kids of human trafficking.  

I also read this from the third link:  "The government says up to 90,000 children will arrive on their own this year, compared with about 39,000 the Border Patrol detained last year."  I guess it's possible that there was a spike in purported human trafficking that resulted the number doubling, but it's more likely that people know it's open season on our borders, with the president essentially bypassing Congress on amnesty.  
56  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 5 NYPD cops choke unarmed man to death on: July 23, 2014, 09:54:09 AM
No, the point you have been trying to make is that the man is responsible for his ending up in a chokehold and subsequently dying, which is a stupid and wrong point..

you;to say that this guy had no hand in the situation and by extension the outcome is dishonest.

you:Let's all be intellectually honest here and admit the he played a role in his own death.


Skip's domestic abuse comparison is exactly right. Do you understand that the chokehold is illegal for NYPD?  Do you understand that the reason it is illegal is precisely because of a situation like this?


Tony is right about this.  If a chokehold is illegal in New York, and the chokehold was the cause of death, then the cop committed a crime.

Even if that's true, the cop used the chokehold because the man was irate, enormous, and resisted arrest.  If the man was truly "peaceful," and had not resisted arrest, he'd still be alive.  That doesn't justify the cop's conduct, but it does mean the man did play a role in his own death.  Tony calling that "intellectually honest" is spot on.  It's just not the PC thing to say. 
57  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz on: July 23, 2014, 09:31:07 AM
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr7311#summary

Section235 -
Directs the Secretary of Homeland Security to develop policies and procedures to ensure that unaccompanied alien children in the United States are safely repatriated to their country of nationality or of last habitual residence.
Sets forth special rules for unaccompanied alien children from contiguous countries.
Directs the Secretary to: (1) develop a safe repatriation pilot program for alien children; and (2) negotiate child repatriation agreements between the United States and countries contiguous to the United States designed to protect children from severe forms of trafficking in persons.
States, with specified exceptions, that the care and custody of unaccompanied alien children in the United States shall be the responsibility of the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Sets forth related provisions respecting: (1) notification of, and transfer to, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS); (2) age determinations; (3) safe placement; (4) legal and child advocate access; (5) immigration status adjustment and asylum protections; and (6) assistance eligibility.
Authorizes the Secretary of Heath and Human Services to award grants to, and enter into contracts with, voluntary agencies to carry out such responsibilities.



Ok.  Now we are making progress.   Smiley  Thanks.  I can see an argument based on the language you provided.  One caveat:  this is a summary and not the actual language of the law. 
58  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 23, 2014, 09:08:27 AM
NBC Discovers Hypocrisy of Michael Moore's Wealth; Used Him to Bash Wall Street in Past
By Kyle Drennen | July 23, 2014

On Wednesday, NBC's Today offered a surprising full report on "filmmaker and liberal activist" Michael Moore tarnishing his "blue-collar, anti-capitalist image" after it was revealed during divorce proceedings that Moore and his now ex-wife lived in a Michigan mansion, "the 10,000-square-foot house, reportedly in the same neighborhood as Madonna and Bruce Willis." [Listen to the audio or watch the video after the jump]

Back in 2009, the morning show invited Moore on the broadcast to bash big bonuses for Wall Street executives. In part, Moore ranted against the wealthy business leaders living in "gated communities" and "castles with moats around them." Perhaps Moore should have remembered that people living in giant mansions shouldn't throw stones.

During the Thursday report, correspondent Gabe Gutierrez described: "Deep in northern Michigan, this lake-front mansion is the talk of the town....It belongs to one of the state's most well-known celebrities. Not Eminem or Kid Rock, no, this $2 million home on Torch Lake is owned by filmmaker Michael Moore and his wife of twenty-two years, Kathleen Glynn."

The segment featured a clip of Moore "slamming the one percent at this Occupy Wall Street protest" in 2011. Gutierrez then explained: "The new court documents reveal Moore and his now ex-wife shared properties in Michigan and New York. The Detroit News reports the couple owned nine total."

Wrapping up the story, Gutierrez observed: "Already exposed, what some in this small Michigan town feel is a contradiction between Moore's common-man persona and his uncommon wealth."

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Here is a full transcript of the July 23 report:

7:20 AM ET TEASE:

SAVANNAH GUTHRIE: Coming up, a controversial divorce reveals the true wealth of Michael Moore. The question is, will it hurt his image as an every man?

7:32 AM ET SEGMENT:

MATT LAUER: Let's start, though, with a career – a guy who built a career on a blue-collar down-to-earth image. But a potentially messy divorce just finalized is painting a somewhat different picture of filmmaker and liberal activist Michael Moore. Here's NBC's Gabe Gutierrez.

[ON-SCREEN HEADLINE: "Moore" Money, More Problems; Blue-Collar Director's Wealth Revealed in Divorce]

GABE GUTIERREZ: Deep in northern Michigan, this lake-front mansion is the talk of the town.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: The way he lives is not how the common man lives.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN B: I think he's earned it.

GUTIERREZ: It belongs to one of the state's most well-known celebrities. Not Eminem or Kid Rock, no, this $2 million home on Torch Lake is owned by filmmaker Michael Moore and his wife of twenty-two years, Kathleen Glynn.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: I am disappointed in what appears to me to be a conflict in his values and what he represents.

GUTIERREZ: But now the pair just settled a high-profile divorce. In court filings, Moore had blamed his wife for going overboard in expanding the 10,000-square-foot house, reportedly in the same neighborhood as Madonna and Bruce Willis.

MICHAEL MOORE: Hi, I'm Michael Moore.

GUTIERREZ: Ever since his 1989 documentary Roger & Me...

MOORE: Do you think it's a little dangerous hanging out with guns in a bank?

GUTIERREZ: ...and other films like Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11, Moore had built a blue-collar, anti-capitalist image.

MOORE: I am one person. This is a movement of millions of voices.

GUTIERREZ: Slamming the one percent at this Occupy Wall Street protest.

The new court documents reveal Moore and his now ex-wife shared properties in Michigan and New York. The Detroit News reports the couple owned nine total. No comment from her lawyer. And Moore's attorney would only say the couple has "mutually and amicably reached a divorce settlement."

LISA BLOOM [LEGAL ANALYST]: Very smart for Michael Moore to settle this matter. Even if he could have gotten more money, it's so important to his public image that he not be bickering with his wife of twenty years and having all of that dirty laundry exposed.

GUTIERREZ: Already exposed, what some in this small Michigan town feel is a contradiction between Moore's common-man persona and his uncommon wealth. For Today, Gabe Gutierrez, NBC News.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2014/07/23/nbc-discovers-hypocrisy-michael-moores-wealth-used-him-bash-wall-stree#ixzz38JBVqnQ6
59  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 23, 2014, 09:07:26 AM
Another anti-capitalist liberal hypocrite.

MICHAEL MOORE OWNS 9 HOMES
by JOHN NOLTE  23 Jul 2014

Added: The Smoking Gun was the first outlet to report this, and did so weeks ago.

According to the Detroit News, anti-capitalism "everyman" filmmaker Michael Moore owns 9 homes. On top of a $2 million, 10,000 square foot lakefront mansion in Torch Lake, Michigan, there is a Manhattan condo that was once 3 condos, and 7 other properties. Moore's secret role as a land baron was revealed in divorce papers:

The filmmaker, 60, who split his time between a home here and one in New York, is leaving his wife of 22 years, Kathy Glynn.

His hit movies and best-selling books have begat a lifestyle far from most ballcap-wearing, duck-waddling denizens of Flint.

Moore and Glynn own nine properties in Michigan and New York, including a Manhattan condo that once was three apartments. CelebrityNetWorth.com pegs their wealth at $50 million.

In legal pleadings, Moore blames his wife for the expansion of the 10,000-square-foot home on Torch Lake, which has a value of $2 million.
Since his 1989 "Roger and Me," Michael Moore has earned upwards of $50 million trashing capitalism.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/07/23/michael-moore-owns-9-homes
60  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: The Official Chris Christie Appreciation Thread on: July 23, 2014, 09:03:26 AM
Astorino Suggests Christie Should Step Down as Chair of RGA
By Ross Barkan | 07/22/14

Republican gubernatorial candidate Rob Astorino suggested today that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie should stop campaigning for governors nationwide if he can’t back New York’s GOP contender.

Mr. Astorino said that Mr. Christie, a fellow Republican, should consider stepping down as chairman of the Republican Governors Association if he doesn’t actively support, as Mr. Christie suggested yesterday, Mr. Astorino’s long-shot bid against Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

“I think Chris Christie forgot where he came from. In 2009 when nobody thought he’d beat Gov. Corzine. He worked hard, he got through the summer, things changed dramatically in the fall and he won an upset just like I did in Westchester,” Mr. Astorino told the Observer at a campaign event in Manhattan today.

“If Chris Christie is unable to support Republican candidates for governor like me in a neighboring state for whatever reason–because a lot has changed since Bridgegate, I don’t know if there’s a connection with he and Andrew Cuomo on Bridgegate or if Cuomo has something that he’s holding back, information that could be damaging to the governor–if Gov. Christie is unable to help a Republican candidate for governor, maybe he should consider stepping down as chairman of the RGA,” Mr. Astorino continued. “That’s his job, to go around the country … I would welcome the governor to come here to New York to assist us.”

Mr. Christie, who has seen his own presidential ambitions take a hit after the George Washington Bridge lane closure scandal, told reporters yesterday that the RGA wouldn’t invest in “landslides” and “lost causes” when he was questioned about Mr. Astorino’s campaign. Polls show the Westchester County executive consistently trailing Mr. Cuomo by nearly 40 points.

With little name recognition statewide and a war chest that pales in comparison to Mr. Cuomo’s–the governor has $35 million cash on hand compared to Mr. Astorino’s $2.4 million–Mr. Astorino is seen as unlikely to topple Mr. Cuomo. But the Republican has been running an aggressive race against Mr. Cuomo, accusing him of corrupting the state and driving residents away with poor economic policies.

Mr. Astorino did insist that he and Mr. Christie have a “good relationship,” but said it was not Mr. Christie’s “role” to dismiss Mr. Astorino’s chances.

“Maybe it’s inconvenient to come over the bridge to New York to help the Republican candidate for governor here,” he said. “But you know what? That’s his call whether he wants to or not … it’s incumbent upon him to help all of us.”

Mr. Christie declined to comment. The RGA did not immediately return requests for comment.

http://observer.com/2014/07/astorino-suggests-christie-should-step-down-as-chair-of-rga/#ixzz38JA4Bfob
61  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama's Leadership on: July 23, 2014, 09:01:26 AM
Is this good leadership?

Obama sets out on Dem fundraising sprint amid mounting crises
Published July 23, 2014
FoxNews.com

President Obama began his three-day West Coast fundraising tour in Seattle with an admission that mushrooming global crises were adding anxiety to an American public already concerned about the economy.

"Part of people's concern is just the sense that around the world the old order isn't holding and we're not quite yet where we need to be based on the new order," said Obama, who later cautioned against letting those anxieties lead to cynicism and a lack of interest in democracy.

"People who really need government to work for them on their behalf, they withdraw, they opt out, and that makes government even more dysfunctional," he said.

The president already has taken heat for making time for a burger stop and fundraisers last week shortly after Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was downed over Ukraine, killing hundreds. While the president repeatedly has addressed the tragedy in public, he also spent his Sunday playing golf at Fort Belvoir.

Later Tuesday, Obama will attend a Democratic Party fundraiser in Seattle, before catching Air Force One to San Francisco. He'll end the three-day swing later this week in Los Angeles.

The White House has defended the president's busy political schedule, which the president's team largely has not changed in response to world events.

"What the president is looking at and what his team is looking at is, does he have what he needs to do his job?" White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest told reporters on Monday, in response to questions about the president's fundraising.

Asked about Obama's fundraising last week in New York, Earnest said it was not a mistake and noted that the president made calls to the leaders of Ukraine and Malaysia amid the Flight 17 tragedy.

"When the president travels, he travels with an array of staff and advisers and communications equipment that allows him to do his job from wherever he happens to be," Earnest said. "And if it becomes clear that there's a need for him to come back to the White House in order to fulfill those functions, then we'll make a change in his schedule. Right now, it's not apparent that that's the case."

But Republican critics have questioned the president's stay-the-course strategy on fundraisers.

In response to the White House defense of its own itinerary, the Republican National Committee tweeted: "The White House still feels Obama's choice of burgers & fundraisers over responding to crises was the right one."

Aside from the Malaysia Airlines tragedy and deliberations over how to respond to the suspected Russian connection, the administration continues to grapple with the surge of illegal immigrant minors along the U.S.-Texas border, and with the mounting death toll in the war between Israelis and Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

After Texas Gov. Rick Perry announced the deployment of National Guard personnel to the border in his state to deal with the surge, Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, ribbed the president for his schedule.

"The fact is if the president weren't so busy playing golf or pool, he would know the integration has been happening," Gohmert told Fox News, referring to collaboration along the border between various Border Patrol and security officials.

Obama did abandon one idea for the trip, however. The White House had been in touch with late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel about a presidential appearance on his show during the stop in Los Angeles, but is not going forward.

"We elected not to do it this time, but hope we can arrange to do it in the near future," a White House official said.

But on the fundraising trail, Obama remains a potent draw among the Democratic Party's wealthy donors, who pay up to $32,400 to be in intimate settings with the president.

The fundraising highlight of the trip will be a Democratic National Committee event Wednesday at the Beverly Hills home of Shonda Rhimes, the producer of the ABC series "Scandal," a drama set in modern-day Washington. Kerry Washington, who plays the lead role in the show, is among the hosts.

So far this 2013-14 election cycle, Obama has attended 73 fundraising events for Democratic Party groups. During the 2009-10 midterm cycle, when Republicans won control of the House, Obama attended 98 fundraisers, according to CBS News White House reporter Mark Knoller, who keeps detailed records of presidential travels and events.

Obama has outpaced his predecessor in fundraising, having attended 395 fundraisers during his presidency as of this week. According to Knoller's statistics, then-President George W. Bush had attended 217 at the same point in his second term.

The 395 is more than Bush attended during his entire presidency.

Obama has devoted much of his effort to the Democratic National Committee, which last month raised $9 million and cut its debt to $3 million from a one-time high of $23 million. Obama also will raise money for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the political arm of the party that assists Democratic House incumbents and candidates.

While the House is expected to remain in Republican hands after the election, the fate of the Democratic-controlled Senate is much more in question, raising the stakes for fundraising.

Obama has at least one bit of policy-driven business set aside for the trip. In Los Angeles on Thursday he plans to go to a community college to draw attention to jobs training, particularly for work requiring specialized skills, like health care.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/23/obama-sets-out-on-dem-fundraising-sprint-amid-mounting-crises/?intcmp=latestnews
62  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz on: July 23, 2014, 08:59:00 AM
im not sure if youre fucking with me or you really dont understnd this.

but ill explain it once more. The bill was put into place with intensions to deal with human trafficking. One of the provisions of the bill was no immediate deportation of minors. And thats why we are where we are with this matter.

I'm saying two things:

1.  Which part of the law says what you are saying?  Are you relying on a few editorials or did you read it yourself? 

2.  I don't believe this massive influx is because there was a spike in human trafficking.  I think the massive influx is related to the president's leadership failure when it comes to securing the border. 
63  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates on: July 23, 2014, 08:57:08 AM
winning the general has little to nothing to do with substance and more to do with marketing. If this admin has taught us anything it should be that.

I'm not sure winning primaries have much to do with substance either.  The whole process is a mess. 
64  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Romney v Obama debate - LMFAO x 1,000,000 how wrong O-twink was on: July 23, 2014, 08:56:01 AM
Boo Hoo.  I didn't offer you to come my house.  I don't bring gays or midgets to my house.  Keep trying though.


Quote
No internet photos.  Why?  Because I already said you were a fake.

Don't want to wait until June?  How about this.  Check airfare and get a ticket, I will send half the price of the ticket to whoever you want me to on this board to cover my share of you flying down to Ft Lauderdale and showing me drivers license and proof. 

You want a bet.  That's the bet.  None of this bullshit internet crap.  Hell, wasn't even too long ago you were claiming you couldn't post a copy of a simple (but fake) letter about Obama raising your insurance rates.  Why would I expect you to be capable of doing any better now?

You got a choice, I will be there end of June, or I will cover half the expense for your fat ass to come here and show it.  You want to make a deal, there is your option.  If you can't deliver proof in real life I am not interested in your bullshit.

So little bitch... what's it going to be?  We got a deal or you just got more excuses?

65  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Romney v Obama debate - LMFAO x 1,000,000 how wrong O-twink was on: July 22, 2014, 08:05:27 PM


33 must be slacking.  I think he used to have like 6 stalkers at one point.

Gotta step up the pace, lol.

Right?  But I think Lurker and the Village Idiot stalk him so much it's like have six groupies.  lol   Smiley
66  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Romney v Obama debate - LMFAO x 1,000,000 how wrong O-twink was on: July 22, 2014, 06:52:05 PM
I have said many times - anyone on this site is welcome to train w me any time at NYSC.   

Careful now.  You already have two groupies. 
67  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates on: July 22, 2014, 06:51:18 PM
That's because you're stupid.  As we all know. 

How embarrassed are you to not be able to admit you are a Republican?  Maybe you should stick to feeling sorry for yourself.

I genuinely feel sorry for you for two reasons.  First, you don't realize what a partisan hack you are.  Or maybe you do?  But you are really doing yourself a disservice by failing to think independently.  If you have the intellectual strength to do so, you should really try making your own decisions.  It's liberating.  You don't have to carry the Democrat Party's water so blindly.   

Second, you don't realize what a weirdo you are.  I really think you don't see how weird it is for a grown man to be obsessed with an internet stranger.  I think something is wrong with you.  I hope you recover from whatever it is.  Good luck to you. 
68  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: What Happens Next For Lois Lerner? on: July 22, 2014, 06:46:48 PM
The plot sickens.

House investigators: IRS tech experts say Lerner’s hard drive only 'scratched,' not destroyed
Published July 22, 2014
FoxNews.com

House investigators said Tuesday that the computer hard drive of ex-agency official Lois Lerner -- a key figure in the IRS targeting scandal -- was only “scratched,” not irreparably damaged, as Americans have been led to believe.

GOP-led Ways and Means Committee investigators, in their quest to recover missing Lerner emails, learned her hard drive was damaged but recoverable by talking to IRS information-technology experts, after the government originally refused to make them available, according to the committee.

“It is unbelievable that we cannot get a simple, straight answer from the IRS about this hard drive,” said committee Chairman Dave Camp.

The Michigan Republican said the new information also raises more questions about potential criminal wrongdoing at the IRS because the committee was told no data was recoverable and the physical hard drive was recycled and potentially shredded.

In addition, learning that the hard drive was only scratched also raises questions about why the IRS refused to use outside experts to recover the data.

“In fact, in-house professionals at the IRS recommended the agency seek outside assistance in recovering the data,” the committee said Tuesday in a release.

House investigators said they also are trying to determine whether the scratch was accidental or deliberate.

“If the IRS would just come clean and tell Congress and the American people what really happened, we could put an end to this,” Camp said. “Our investigators will not stop until we find the full truth.”

Lerner was the IRS’s exempt organizations director during the period of 2009 to mid-2011 -- when applications for tax-exempt status from Tea Party groups and other conservative organizations were held up for extra scrutiny.

The committee also said the information gleamed from the new interviews conflicts with a July 18 IRS court filing that states the data on the hard drive was unrecoverable -- including years of missing emails.

On June 13, more than one year into the investigation, and one month after the committee was promised it would receive all of Lerner’s emails, Congress learned that potentially thousands of them, over roughly two years, were destroyed as a result of a 2011 computer crash.

The recent interviews are bolstered by former federal law-enforcement and Defense Department forensic experts also telling investigators that most of the data on a scratched drive should be recoverable, the committee said.

A declaration filed Friday by the IRS stated the agency tried but failed to recover the data. The agency also said it is not sure what happened to the hard drive, other than saying they think it was recycled, which according to the court filing means “shredded.”

The committee also said a review of internal IRS documents found Lerner’s computer was actually described as “recovered.”

The targeting to the groups applying to the IRS was made public in May 2013 by Lerner. She has since refused to testify before Congress, invoking the Fifth Amendment, and resigned in September 2013.

The IRS has turned over tens of thousands of emails to and from Lerner’s account and says it has recovered thousands of others that were lost when her government-issued computer crashed.

Democrats say there is no scandal and that Republicans are trying to turn it into an election-year issue.

Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, protested Monday about the continuing House investigations, including his committee’s plans to call IRS Commissioner John Koskinen to testify on Wednesday, for the third time over the past month.

"This public harassment of an agency head is not only an abuse of authority, but a dereliction of the committee's obligation to conduct responsible oversight on a host of other critical issues within our jurisdiction," he said.

Investigators also are still trying to learn whether the targeting of conservative groups was ordered by the White House.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/22/house-investigators-irs-tech-experts-say-lerners-hard-drive-only-scratched-not/
69  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates on: July 22, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
Yeah, I do make an independent decision on election day.  In 2008 I voted against a geriatric nimwit and his idiot running mate.  In 2012 I voted against a lib in disguise and his idiot of a running mate.

The people who gave us Obama was the GOP because they couldn't scratch up anything beyond the laughable shitty candidates they ran.  Now I see why you refuse to say you are a Republican.  I would be ashamed to admit it too. 

I genuinely feel sorry for you.   Undecided
70  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates on: July 22, 2014, 06:33:41 PM
Bwahahaha!  Lurker you are such a partisan water carrier.  Do you ever make an independent decision on election day?  It's people like you who gave us Obama. 

Wait, you actually think he's doing a fine job as president.   Undecided

In any event, we shall see when the candidates declare and run who will be strong, and who will not.   
71  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Romney v Obama debate - LMFAO x 1,000,000 how wrong O-twink was on: July 22, 2014, 06:30:56 PM

MELTDOWN!!!

Here's a fact :   You have revealed yourself to be one of the biggest idiots on this board in the past week. 
Here's an opinion : Maybe they will discover a cure for stupidity one day.  For your sake, I hope so.

LOL!  You know what, I'm not willing to pay money to fly and see you (like you wanted to do with Soul Crusher), but I am willing to buy you a dictionary.  My expense.  I'll ask Soul Crusher for his address, mail it to him, and you can pick it up from him.  Kill two birds with one stone:  learn the meaning of words, which you really struggle with, and satisfy your Soul Crusher obsession.  See how helpful I can be?   Smiley

But focus:  an opinion is not a fact. 
72  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Romney v Obama debate - LMFAO x 1,000,000 how wrong O-twink was on: July 22, 2014, 06:23:59 PM
It's takes a pretty stupid person to attempt a piss poor deflection (which is completely untrue) because they have no other argument.  Which as we have learned, you certainly qualify for. 

Apparently, I do understand the difference between opinion and fact as I am not the one that is trying to pass a flawed opinion and outright speculation off as factual evidence of what "maybe" have happened if the GOP turd got elected.

Come back with more deflection and speculation.  It's not like we haven't seen it all from you before.

Creepy stalker, did get your Soul Crusher fix in today?  Did you ever actually go visit him in New York?  And how many pictures of Soul Crusher do you have on your hard drive?  Enquiring minds want to know . . . .

No, you do't know the difference between fact and opinion.  Saying someone would have been a better leader is an opinion.  Not a fact.  You are free to disagree with my opinion . . . in between gazing at pictures of Soul Crusher, while you simultaneously repeatedly call him gay. 
73  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates on: July 22, 2014, 06:21:23 PM
No he won't.  He is nothing more than Palin in pants.

Oh wait.... you thought she was well qualified too.  I forgot for a second what an idiot you are.  Carry on with the delusions though.

Listen creepy stalker, he is smart, well spoken, comes from a big state, has good name recognition, will likely be a good debater, and being Hispanic doesn't hurt.  I have no idea if he will win, but he'll definitely be a contender if he runs. 

But you'll have your creepy head up Hillary's rear end, so you may not see it.  Make sure you check the board for regular updates. 
74  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Romney v Obama debate - LMFAO x 1,000,000 how wrong O-twink was on: July 22, 2014, 05:14:09 PM
Speculation does not equate into facts.  At least not for the average person.  It takes a special kind of stupid to try to pass a "what if" and "maybe" off as facts.

It takes a pretty creepy stalker to keep pictures of internet strangers on your computer hard drive. 

Also, you don't understand the difference between opinion and fact.  Try Google.  It's awesome. 
75  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates on: July 22, 2014, 05:12:47 PM
No he won't.  But continue to convince yourself otherwise.

Yes he will.  But continue to wear those partisan blinders. 
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