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51  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 19, 2014, 10:06:07 AM

Wow.  Precisely why people should let the facts develop before committing themselves to one side or the other. 
52  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 19, 2014, 10:03:05 AM
At this point they could show graphic video evidence of michael brown anally violating newborn puppies, smoking crack while machine gunning old ladies,  and beating cops to death and these idiots would still 'show solidarity' with him  Roll Eyes

Sad but true.   Undecided
53  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Rick Perry Indicted on: August 18, 2014, 08:38:08 PM
I would personally like to lock up any drunk driver for a year.  every time.  They disgust me.

But you can't just do it to one of them, that really upsets you.  You have to lock them ALL up or fire them ALL.

You cannot just fire those who happen to be your political adversaries. 

Good thing that isn't what happened.  What are you a Daily Kos contributor?
54  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 18, 2014, 08:36:37 PM
that's right,they already had an altercation where brown tried to take his gun then he walks away then turns and starts rushing the cop,the cop has every right to shoot brown and if it takes 6 bullets to take him down to fucking bad

I agree about the use of force if he was rushing the cop.
55  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 18, 2014, 08:34:13 PM
it's weird they manage to leak the report about the dead man, but not the police blood test.

And since the blood of ONE of the people in a life/death struggle matters, hence your post, I think the blood of the OTHER would matter too.

Believe me, if it leaked "The cop had a BAC of .12 during the shoot", surely there would be people saying "What about the blood of the victim".


LOL @ Nothing to do with it, huh?

Ah the mind of a CT nut.  I'll let you worry about that and whatever tangled web you decide to weave about this story.
56  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Rick Perry Indicted on: August 18, 2014, 07:15:31 PM
Why did he single her out?   Or does Perry law off all govt employees that get DUIs.

And just the arrest, not the conviction?

Look, I'm all for punishing the shit out of drunk drivers - but let's punish them ALL, not just the ones that are local that you dislike.  Selective enforcement.

What??  He wasn't enforcing the law.   Roll Eyes  He was vetoing bills. 

Based on what I have heard and seen, I have no problem with him doing whatever he could to try and get that woman out of office.  I do not think this will end well for her. 
57  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 18, 2014, 07:14:14 PM

did they blood test the cop?

I remember them testing trayvon, but did they test zimmerman?  LOL

IMO, if you're going to test the dead man, at least test the one pulling the trigger too.

I'm sure the cop underwent regular drug testing as part of his job, but that has nothing to do with this 18-year old kid smoking pot.  
58  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Sports Discussion Boards / Re: 2013/14 NBA Thread on: August 18, 2014, 06:58:23 PM
why do they "mean shit"?  because kobe only has 1?  lebron has 4 one less than jordan and he should have 5, no way derrick rose deserved it more

one of lebron's losses was with a average cleveland team the he carried, it's amazing he made it that far, kobe failed miserably with similar teams, they definitely underachieved against dallas but dirk played out of his mind

miracle 3 pointer?  you act like lebron stunk that entire series, if lebron didn't dominate ray allen never would've been in a position to make that 3 pointer

the fact that you compare his legacy with all time great like MJ and magic well BEFORE his career is over says a lot about the greatness of lebron, you criticize only because you don't like him personally

the 90's was a weak era of basketball, that's part of the reason jordan's bulls dominated

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I agree with your 90s/Jordan basketball assessment, but what you said about Kobe's teams isn't accurate.  He had pretty bad teams after Shaq and before Pau.  And I don't think anything LeCramp did in Cleveland was any more impressive than Kobe taking Kwame Brown, Lamar Odom, Luke Walton, and Smush Parker to the playoffs.  They almost beat the Suns too, who might have had the best record in the NBA that year?  In any event, taking that starting lineup to the playoffs in the Western Conference was pretty darn impressive. 
59  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Rick Perry Indicted on: August 18, 2014, 06:54:45 PM
Lefty Law Professor: That Indictment Against Rick Perry is "Un-American"
Daniel Doherty | Aug 18, 2014

Friday night there was some major breaking news: Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) was slapped with a lawsuit for supposedly “abusing his power” when he unilaterally stripped funding to the Travis County Public Integrity Unit, an ethics office that investigates government employees for criminal wrongdoing.

The long and short of it is that Perry wanted to strong-arm liberal District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg into resigning after her infamous and deeply embarrassing DUI arrest hit the papers. “Perry made it clear in public statements and through emissaries that he didn’t believe the state should fund an office headed by someone who had lost the public’s trust,” The Dallas Morning News reported.

The special prosecutor in this case, however, believes he has more than enough evidence to make both charges stick.

Either way, Republicans in the state, and Perry’s backers, have stuck by him, arguing that his decision to veto the legislation, however one wants to interpret what he did, was legal. And Alan Dershowitz, of all people, a liberal scholar at Harvard Law School, wholeheartedly agrees (via Newsweek):

 The charges are politically motivated and an example of a "dangerous" trend of courts being used to affect the ballot box and politics, he told Newsmax on Saturday.

"Everybody, liberal or conservative, should stand against this indictment," Dershowitz said. "If you don't like how Rick Perry uses his office, don't vote for him."

He went further:

 "This is another example of the criminalization of party differences," said Dershowitz, a prominent scholar on United States constitutional law and criminal law who writes the "Legally Speaking" column for Newsmax. "This idea of an indictment is an extremely dangerous trend in America, whether directed at [former House Majority Leader] Tom DeLay or [former President] Bill Clinton."

Further, Dershowitz said, such indictments are something that's done in totalitarian countries and should not be done in the United States.

In such countries, "if you don't like them, you indict," Dershowitz said. "In America, you vote against them...this should be up to the voters. There is no room in America for abuse of office charges, and this has to stop once and for all. This is a serious problem."

And indicting a politician, rather than fighting back through a ballot box, "is so un-American."

Not surprisingly, Perry is also letting it be known that liberals are not shying away from defending him in an effort to bolster his case (via Business Insider):

 Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R), nobody's idea of a liberal politician, wants everyone to know about the left-leaning observers who have rushed to his defense after he was indicted last Friday.

On "Fox News Sunday," Perry was asked whether he takes the indictment against him seriously. Perry insisted he did but quickly pointed to the arguments made by former Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod and Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz as a good reason for why the public should dismiss the allegations.

"I certainly take everything I do seriously — the rule of law in particular, I take seriously. Let me just share with you: David Axelrod said this was a very 'sketchy' indictment. Professor Dershowitz who is not exactly my cheerleader, said that it was outrageous," Perry said, according to video posted by Mediaite. "So I think across the board you're seeing people weigh in and reflecting that this is way outside of the norm."

Perry, meanwhile, staunchly defended the veto himself in a press conference last weekend:


“This indictment amounts to nothing more than abuse of power.” he said. "And I cannot and will not allow that to happen. I intend to fight against those who would erode our state’s constitution and laws purely for political purposes."

"And I intend to win," he added.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2014/08/18/lefty-law-professor-that-lawsuit-against-rick-perry-is-unamerican-n1879826
60  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Tennessee atheists win right to distribute literature after schools give Bibles on: August 18, 2014, 06:52:11 PM
A reporter for fox news (author of the article) referred to the bible as Gods Word....that's some neutral reporting there...

It's an opinion piece. 
61  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 18, 2014, 06:43:29 PM
"In addition, Brown had marijuana in his system when he was shot and killed by a police officer on Aug. 9 in Ferguson, according to this person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/18/county-investigation-michael-brown-was-shot-from-the-front-had-marijuana-in-his-system/
62  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: DOJ (Eric Holder) urged Ferguson Police not to release Brown robbery tape on: August 18, 2014, 06:41:37 PM

I disagree.  I think it was the right move to release the tape.  Those in the media advocating on behalf of Brown were attempting to poison the well of public perception by creating a false narrative.  The video squashed that.  As for the rioters, they are going to loot no matter what.  This isn't about justice for them, its about stealing.  They don't care what really happened. They aren't looking for a reason but an excuse.

I agree.  It doesn't justify an improper shooting, but it's all part of the story, just like the contention that he was a "gentle giant," and the pictures of him in his graduation gown. 
63  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: White kids now officially minorities in the nation's schools on: August 15, 2014, 06:28:20 PM
Sure there is, absolutely hammer any business caught hiring illegal immigrants. I`m talking fines that will shut the business down for getting caught a second time. 

I'm down with this.  I doubt it happens. 
64  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: The Official Chris Christie Appreciation Thread on: August 15, 2014, 05:22:26 PM
Looks like Fat Man is losing weight.   Shocked




Christie 'thinking about' 2016 bid
By Jesse Byrnes
August 15, 2014, 01:26 pm

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie told an Ocean City, Md., town hall Thursday that he was considering running for president in 2016.

"I'm thinking about it," Christie said in response to a question from a local supporter, according to The Star-Ledger of Newark, N.J.

“It is an enormous decision to make not only for me, but my family,” Christie said, according to the newspaper, saying he would make his decision "probably by the end of this year or the beginning of next."

Christie, who has traveled nationally as chairman of the Republican Governors Association, has long been considered a likely candidate for president in 2016 and is among the top contenders, according to polls. He's had to deal this year with the fallout from his administration's role in lane closures on the George Washington Bridge.

He joked about why he wasn't asked about 2016 sooner at the event.

“Third question in, you people are slow,” he reportedly said.

Christie also criticized President Obama's handling of the border crisis and healthcare reform, The Star-Ledger reported.

https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/215262-christie-thinking-about-2016-bid
65  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Tennessee atheists win right to distribute literature after schools give Bibles on: August 15, 2014, 05:15:41 PM
Navy reverses Bible ban
By Todd Starnes
Published August 15, 2014
FoxNews.com

Put the Bibles back!

A Navy spokesman confirms that Bibles will be returned to base lodges, and they’ve also launched an investigation to determine why God’s Word was removed from guest rooms in the first place.

Navy Exchange, which runs the base lodges, sent a directive out in June ordering the Bibles removed, after the Freedom From Religion Foundation filed a complaint. The atheist group alleged the books were a violation of the U.S. Constitution and amounted “to a government endorsement of that religious text.”

Navy spokesman Ryan Perry said the decision was made without their knowledge.

“In June 2014, Navy Exchange Command (NEXCOM) made a decision, without consultation of senior Navy leadership, to transfer religious materials from the Navy Lodge to the local command religious program,” Perry said in a written statement. “That decision and our religious accommodation policies with regard to the placement of religious materials are under review.”

During the review process, Perry said the “religious materials” that were removed will be returned.

The Bibles had been donated to the Navy by Gideons International, a global ministry that provides copies of the Good Book to schools, military personnel and hotels.

Tim Wildmon, of the American Family Association, called the Navy’s decision great news. He said thousands of their supporters contacted the Navy to protest the removal.

“We must be alert to what the secularists are doing inside the military,” he told me. “But this reversal proves that those who believe in religious freedom can make a difference when we take action.”

Ron Crews, the executive director of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, said he was overwhelmed with calls from active duty and retired Navy personnel who were livid that Navy Exchange pulled the Good Book.

He credited their outrage with forcing the Navy to reconsider the ban.

“I believe it is because people like these veterans rose up and said enough is enough,” Crews told me.

"I am most grateful that the Navy has decided to keep Bibles in their lodges and guest quarters while they review this policy,” he said. “It is my sincere hope that Navy leaders will realize that there is nothing wrong with allowing religious literature to be placed in these rooms.”

The offended atheists are not commenting – at least not yet. Their complaints seem to be much ado about nothing – but then again – isn’t that what atheism is all about?

I’m still puzzled how a Bible tucked away in a hotel desk could cause such angst among the godless crowd. Are they afraid they might learn something through osmosis?

The Navy stressed that they make “every reasonable effort to accommodate the religious practices of our members, and places a high value on religious freedoms for all.”

In my new book, “God Less America,” I issue a call to action for people of faith – to stand up and fight back. Religious liberty is under attack – and the atheists are specifically targeting Christians.

But the Navy’s decision to return the Bibles is evidence that demands a verdict – that when people of faith stand united and speak up with one voice – we can right a wrong.

Well done, patriots. Well done.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/08/15/navy-reverses-bible-ban/
66  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 15, 2014, 04:34:15 PM
yeah murky.

ATM  not looking for officer Wilson

Yeah.  I think the alleged robbery is still relevant, but not as important if they didn't know about it. 

My somewhat rhetorical question is this:  why is it that the victim (if that's what he is) can have his family parade the good parts of his background, calling him a college-bound student etc., but it's taboo to talk about the bad stuff, like a potential criminal history?  Isn't it all part of the story? 
67  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Rick Perry Indicted on: August 15, 2014, 04:30:59 PM
Well he might be kissing his already slim-to-none 2016 chance goodbye.  

Texas Gov. Perry indicted for coercion for veto threat
Published August 15, 2014
Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas –  Texas Gov. Rick Perry has been indicted for abuse of power after carrying out a threat to veto funding for state public corruption prosecutors.

The Republican governor is accused of abusing his official powers by publicly promising to veto $7.5 million for the state public integrity unit at the Travis County District Attorney's office. He was indicted by an Austin grand jury Friday.

Perry said he'd veto the funding if the district attorney, Rosemary Lehmberg, didn't resign. Lehmberg had recently been convicted of drunken driving. The state's Public Integrity Unit operates out of her office.

When Lehmberg refused, Perry carried out his veto, drawing an ethics complaint.

Perry is the first Texas governor indicted in nearly a century. He's leaving office in January, but he's a possible 2016 presidential run.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/15/texas-gov-perry-indicted-for-coercion-for-veto-threat/
68  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 15, 2014, 01:59:35 PM
Ferguson Police Chief Admits Mike Brown Shooting Not Related To Robbery
Aug 15, 2014
By Donovan X. Ramsey

The case around Mike Brown’s killing by a Ferguson police officer is only getting murkier.

After releasing images from a gas station robbery to the press Friday morning with the suggestion Mike Brown was pictured in them, the Ferguson police department is now backtracking. In a second press conference hours later, Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson admitted that Brown’s shooting was unrelated to the incident.

Jackson told reporters that Brown and a friend were in fact stopped, “because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic.”
He also admitted that Darren Wilson, the officer who killed Brown, didn’t suspect Brown at the time that he stopped him.

When Chief Jackson was asked by reporters why his department chose to release the robbery tape if it was unrelated to the shooting, he replied that he had to because “the media asked for it.”

http://newsone.com/3045219/ferguson-police-chief-admits-mike-brown-shooting-not-related-to-robbery/.U-5vO9nP4Qo.facebook
69  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 15, 2014, 12:51:48 PM
But, if he assaulted that police officer, all bets are off.

Probably, although if he shot him in the back and while he had his hands in the air, there could be a problem.  I want to see what the evidence shows before making up my mind. 
70  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 15, 2014, 12:44:59 PM
Holy smokes.  Shades of Trayvon Martin.  Remember the initial pictures released of Martin showing an innocent looking little kid, but later pictures showed a much bigger kid acting like a thug. 

Here is the first picture I saw of Brown (the one on the right):



Here is what I just saw:





And no, Option D, that doesn't mean he deserved to be executed, shot, etc. 
71  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 15, 2014, 12:03:04 PM
Several quotes from protestors have claimed he was 'shot in the face'...some say he was shot in the back...which is it?

Could be both.  But those robbery pictures change everything IMO.  Or least the initial narrative.
72  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Sports Discussion Boards / Re: 2013/14 NBA Thread on: August 15, 2014, 11:49:07 AM
Let me sum up the last few pages:

Lakers fans arguing at how bad they will suck this season.

Not really.  I don't think any Laker fan is expecting the Lakers to be great this season.  I think a healthy Kobe and healthy overall team puts them back in the playoffs, but they're not a title contender. 
73  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Thousands of illegals-including criminals-released into society on: August 15, 2014, 11:42:28 AM
How the heck is an illegal alien not deportable??   Huh
74  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ferguson 'victim' has rap sheet, robbed store same morning on: August 15, 2014, 11:40:13 AM
Lmao now the family's attorney (who also represented trayvons family, coincidently Roll Eyes) has come out and said the video of him robbing the store is just a smear campaign by the cops..that it was all lies.

Cant make this shit up  Grin

What do you expect?  He was all over TV yesterday yelling into the camera about how the eyewitnesses were all telling the truth, etc. 

I still don't know what I think about this yet, because I want to know if the cop shot the guy in the back and shot him while he was on his knees with his hands up, as some of the witnesses claimed.  Too soon to tell, but all that rioting and protesting crap is crazy. 
75  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Charlie Crist in his own words on: August 15, 2014, 11:35:41 AM
LOL!  Is he a Democrat this week? 
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