i never claimed you knew who set the price

i imagine the good ones were sold as a loss leader to set up the bait before the switch

if they are as claimed they could probably sell them for 500 a pop and people would still buy them

it was probably a fluke which is why they tried to duplicate it by putting insulin in one of the batches

How can you be sure your business associates weren't in on it?

kigs are a myth

what ever was in them can obviously not be produced for 200 dollars

its a classic bait and switch

if you cant see that you are blind

The point is that it's blatantly obvious 15 is in on the scam, look how he reacts every time the scam gets sussed, people start coming forward saying they got bunk,  he then calls them every name under the sun, after the 1st scam we all know that these things are not 100% reliable(if they were ever any good at all)... so why so hostile when someone comes forward and says they got bunk, it's not like he hasn't heard of bunk kigs before...

Why would someone keep defending something so fervidly when they know it has a history of f@cking up, unless they have a vested interest

The thing that kept people buying them was him and his chronies telling everyone that they are some sort of magic potion...when in reality they were getting sh1t.

Stuff like what you said above, people turning into beasts within days....its utter BS, GH does not work like that. I have never seen anyone even look significantly different after days on pharma GH let alone turn into beasts.

ive never understood why people cant get good gear in their gyms

when you buy face to face you dont get ripped off

http://s1064.beta.photobucket.com/user/bb220/library/

results for eli blacks, rips, kigs

Has Gh15 done shit to anybody on his list? answer is no!

You are right what you said in your previous post, to a certain degree anyway. Bodybuilding is talked about in a true light here, both you and i know that, so although it is an entertainment board, bodybuilding still features. A lot of the gimmicks from your board seem to see it as a competition though and constantly seek to pollute this board. Although i am pretty sure that it is only the same hand full of individuals running gimmicks.

And to be honest i did post on your board for a while, a lot in the training section, some in nutrition and so on, but i had to stop posting. It was a good group of guys and had a helpful atmosphere, but that isn't the emphasis of the board. I would actually disagree, it is not a bodybuilding board. It could have been one, especially with the good community, but it's not. The whole board is set up to shill kigs, which may or may not be legit sporadically, which in my mind is besides the point anyway. Oh mighty leader doesn't comment on anything constructive to do with bodybuilding, it's all old stuff circa 06-10 that was interlaced between Alex/Ed trolling on the account and anything current is full on sales mode. It is 100% a drug board.

As for the money, if the guy loves dogs so much and has money, then there is no need to scrounge off of board members. Maybe if bigher wasn't spending all of his income on gear and hgh he could afford to look after his own pet, priorities, he really isn't fit to look after an animal in all actuality.

u come in dry 180/185 at ur height look out,,,,i know u dropped too much last show and still finished 2nd u looked great fuller wk out,,live and learn good luck,,,hows the other guy u trained with last yr nice build,,,

Oh I know what's working bro, because any new brand I use I have serum tested...That was the reason I got banned the 1st time from your board for posting up a serum test showing Kigs were bunk....That was the scam before pro source if I remember rightly(so many I lose track!)

He accused me of being a reverse scammer, a shill, and loads of other BS.

And I have watched events unfold ever since, it is so transparent that the guy is a scamming piece of sh1t. he posts up pics of people's kids with implied threats, and you people look up to him...

Fucking retards to a man.

the only problem with your website

is that people lose thousands of dollars chasing the kigtropin myth perpetuated by gh 15

it seriously effects the credibility of the whole board

Good point, the posting style is all over the place.

Props on your physique, look great, your build is very similar to my old mans and he is def lifetime natty.

As for the dog, isn't gh15 a multimillionaire? Why did he not just pay the bill, it would go a long way to substantiating the fact that he has money. No need to reply Rearden, we all know the reason.

glad you enjoy it there

im surprised so many of you keep coming back to dyieng board of get big to defend it

gh 15 ran the same thread on here about the sick dog and got the money to heal it
from the posters here

if your board is so superior to this one why not ignore what goes on over here instead of constant stickies about people families

A few months back Gh15 was promoting duff kigs that a lot of members on your board got burnt with.

A couple months before that the exact same thing happened.In fact over and over again GH15 has promoted these things and a lot of people have ended up losing their hard earned money.

That board is ridiculous there is absolutely no freedom of speech whatsoever , no one can say a single thing that goes even slightly against 15's agenda.

I got banned for saying after one kig fiasco was outed, that people should have been GH serum testing them as soon as they came out as possibly would have helped the scam get rumbled sooner.

Why would any board ban someone for posting that?

The guy is a scammer, anyone who can't see that is a retard.

I have moles all over GH15's forum. they tell me everything going down. I make sure it is worth their time. from what I know GH15 was getting kickbacks from Kami that is why he ga ve him all those chnaces to redeem himself! GH15 laughs his ass off to the bank! He pretends to be peopes friends but lies and just wants their cash! Pellius has his nose up GH15 butt.

Pelliuse got ripped off because he jumped on the GH15 bandwagon. he got jacked mad kits.

GH15 has made a fortune pimping fake HGH and low quality gear. He wont promote anybody who wont give him alot of free shit and money. Gh15 is a major crook. One of his sources is OK but he gets taken advantage of by GH15!

BBoy does the same thing! big scammer. the companys might give him ok shit but scams everybody else. biggest crook ever is GH15 and the DEA will get him. not right away but they will wait till he gets a little more cash and Boom! The doors will come flying down.GH15 is no pro! At east B-Boy is a real bodybuilder. all GH15 has talked about for a year is kigtropin and certai UGL's. And know none of the pros he has mentioned has tried any of the gear he says they use.

rearden metal, are you taking the piss or not, i cant tell

is this a parody or not?

The revisionist history that you people spew out, to the man.....is laughable.

the Kig scam has been going on from day one on that board, to hear you tell it, it was sniffed out and squashed instantly. This is why people don't take you seriously...you fools can't just be honest and straight up if your lives depended on it.

God forbid someone says GOD dropped the ball, the shit was shady, and people got fucked out of a, lot of money...you know....the fucking TRUTH.

Fair enough, I've just always known there was a scam and it's true we all jump to conclusions at times. Who controlled the kits is what gets to people and you never know the 100% background story on the internet. All i know is some shady shit happened on this board and yours, who orchestrated the whole thing will be seen in time.

I think the truth will be revealed in the end.

So he makes absolutely no money from that board whatsoever? It's all completely altruistic?

how do you know this, champ?

You know i have no issues with you, but you are supporting a board that is corrupt and full of lies.

I just don't understand how you can't see it. Your fellow Mods even have enough brass to say i'm filt, when i'm the one who got rid of all the scammers from this site, including one who was a Mod years ago. Gh even sent me PM's saying how happy he was that i was a Mod here, saying how i was going to turn this place around and a few months later he targets me because i call out a scam when i see one. We've been in this game a long time bro.

It's all good though, i'm just here to help people and don't take an accusations personally, however i wish you would put a stop to all the hate and end the leaking of people's personal info due to false accusations. I have info on people to, but i also have class and don't play with fire. I have a real career and have no affiliation with any source. Your board is no better than Alex23 or Avesher and you know how i feel about those two. I've never been a part of any "outings" in all the years i've been here and in fact i set the rule on the AAS board that if any personal info was posted on my board that person would be banned, which is why so many people from your board are gone.

Just keep it real brother, you've always been a classy guy who spoke the truth and are always welcome here.