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1  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 07:41:27 AM
I should remind all of you libs that this is also a perfect example of why large corporations don't have a federal tax liability in a given year.  and all the libs lose their minds with these little factoids.  

take Michael Moore's venture, for example.  Let's assume that it is structured as a C-corp for arguments sake.  

Now lets say the movie grosses $100 million.  now everyone looks at that and automatically thinks, "Hey they made a shit ton of money, they should have a huge tax bill".  Well no they have NO TAX BILL.  why?  because they passed out that money as either salary, or distributions to the officers and employees of the company and at the end of the day they spent more than they brought in.  but everyone got paid straw. 

and what college kid liberals have to understand is that all of those people who received that compensation will be taxed on that income at their individual rates, which are usually less than the corporate rates.  so people bitch about the corp not paying tax but what they don't understand is that the individuals making up the corp took the money out of the corp and had to pay the individual tax rates on that money.  so that money was taxed.  just not at the corporate level, they were taxed on the individual level.  and with the high income tax payers, they're saving just a couple 2-3 points on that tax.  the corp also gets to carry forward that net operating loss and set it against income in future years.  and that is tax planning.  there's nothing nefarious about it.

this is the exact scenario that occurred with facebook.  and every lib lost their mind when they found out "facebook paid no taxes".
2  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 07:25:36 AM
This is you and Dopey Coach's premise

remember

I'm the one who said Moores film lost money and I'm sure that wasn't his intention

you're the one who "guaranteed" me that  "Michael Moore's compensation was not based upon the net income of the venture." and that I would have to be an "idiot to believe that"

So you believe that the guy who directed, produced and wrote the film had received no compensation based on the "net income of the venture" as you put it

Kind of odd given that is exactly how he made money on many of his prior films and exactly how most producer/directors and even actors make money on a film

Seriously man, this belief of  yours  ...which you wrote "I guarantee you..........GUARANTEE"
is one of the dumbest comments I've even seen on this board (and that's saying something)

For some proof of the stupidity of your claim let's review exactly how Moore was "compensated" on some of his other films

Do you see his "compensation was not based upon the net income of the venture".... as you wrote
.

i'm confused.  your quote says that he is paid based upon the net revenues of the film.  and that's what i'm saying.  

he gets paid before taking into account any expenses.  he gets paid on the net revenues that the film generates.  PERIOD.  that means that he is paid a certain percentage of revenues no matter what the other expenses are.  if the movie grosses 100 million at the box office, he gets 27 million dollars.  the movie could lose $50 million.........and he'd still get $27 million.  and yes he ALSO gets a piece of the net income.....AFTER HE GETS HIS CUT OF THE GROSS REVENUES.  but make no mistake he made sure he got his 27% of the gross revenues FIRST.  then if the venture's statement of profit and loss is in the black he gets a cut of that too.

you do know what net revenues means right?  Oh God you don't.  please.........just..... ....stop.
3  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: Today at 07:18:00 AM
I find it interesting that this being a bodybuilding Website and that many of the supposed bodybuilders here are very concerned about their diet in order to be as competitive as possible, that you are not equally as concerned about your kids nutrition. One might suggest that diet is more important to bodybuilders than it is to the general public. And yet here we are arguing about whether it is okay for schools to feed our kids crap food. Are we that self-absorbed that we don't really give a damn what our kids are fed as long as we eat well? I don't believe it.

Truth be told, if you are a parent, one would hope it would make you absolutely crazy to know how poorly your protégés  food offerings were when you sent them off to school. I want to believe that each and every one of you would pack your precious little ones lunch everyday to insure they were healthy and well fed.

If you are concerned with too much government interference in our lives, make absolutely sure that there is no reason for government intervention. Our future is with our youth. If you care about the future, you care about what happens to all young people and not just your own kids.

I hear you on that.  my problem is that I'm not crazy about my taxes rising and HOPING that the government actually implements a plan that successfully carries out its intended purpose.  what if they subsidize lunches, the food isn't much better because all they do is give the kids the same food but in smaller portions and i'm paying more taxes than I was before? 

4  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 23, 2014, 03:52:39 PM
I actually have a degree in finance and work in the field (not that it's needed for this conversation given that you're a glorified gym teacher)

scroll back to the top of this page and you'll see this quote from me

Are you aware the Francis Ford Coppola mortgaged his properties to make The God Father and that he financed Apocalypse Now himself because no studio would touch it.   I'm sure you remember that Sado Masochistic snuff film, The Passion of the Christ.  Mel Gibson famously financed that via his production company. 

So yes, people put money into their own films.  It happens all the time.

And like I've pointed out three times now, the film lost money and I'm sure that was not Moores intention.



yes some guys started off broke.  I get it.  and some guys took risks. I get that. 

and do you know why Mel Gibson started his own production company?  tell us why YOU think he would do that. 

do you know why you and your liberal asshat friends bitch about large corporations not paying income tax in a given year?  tell us why YOU think that is. 

i'm asking these questions because they're all related to your ridiculously stupid assertions that you're making.  I also don't want you to weasel out of being an idiot so i'm making you answer these questions first before I go forward.
5  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 23, 2014, 03:47:47 PM
spare me guarantees and show me some proof of any of your claims

keep in mind my original statement was that the film lost money and that is a fact

please go research how movie profits get disbursed (I provided some info for you on this thread)

do you know how many people make profitable movies still wind up screwing their investors

Again, also try to keep in mind the topic of this thread is the false narrative that Moore is somehow anti-capitalist and shouldn't own real estate.    

Typical Get Big Thread - we start with a false premise an then a confederacy of dunces can't even keep track of the original topic and confuse themselves with another off topic false premise of their own making

BTW - I have to say that you belief that Moore compensation on this film (or any of his films) was not in some way based on the "net income of the venture" is fucking HILARIOUS


seriously can't believe that you're plowing ahead with this idiocy. 
6  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 23, 2014, 03:28:59 PM
Feel free to show me that he didn't have an investment in the movie

BTW - stop the hysterics.   The movie itself LOST MONEY.  You seem to be unaware that happens sometimes (quite often actually)

You're aware that the movie theatres get a cut of the ticket sales (apparently 50% is standard) and then you take away marketing, production and distribution expenses and then Moore would have a % of the what is left (depending on whatever the agreement was with the distributor).   Now if that # is negative that what does he make?

Again, try to keep in mind (I know this is asking a lot of you) that I have said from the beginning of this thread that the guy is not "anti-capitalist" and I'm sure his goal with movies is ALWAYS to make money


this post is so full of stupid I don't even know where to start.
 you really need to go to college.

I guarantee you..........GUARANTEE you that Michael Moore's compensation was not based upon the net income of the venture.  you would have to be a fucking idiot to believe that.  Michael Moore's compensation was an expense of the venture to arrive at net income.  do you know anything about accounting?  you're really unfucking believable.  the guy is worth $50 million and you think he would make a deal like that? 

and just so we're clear.  do you believe that Michael Moore made this movie and made ZERO money?  better yet, do you believe he paid money out of his own pocket to make this movie that grossed over $14 million dollars? 

jesus fucking H Christ someone please just fucking shoot me!
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Building massive quads without squats on: July 23, 2014, 01:36:53 PM
Great post SN

Yes they tend to be the same guys who "blew out their knee playing football for the high school no-cut JV team" 20 years ago and "can't squat".

right but "back in high school before they hurt that knee" they were all world class powerlifters.

I've met 50 guys who had a 1800 lb total at 181 raw.

its tough to be an actual competitive powerlifter because you have to listen to all this shit ALL THE TIME
8  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 23, 2014, 01:19:11 PM
Here's a little factoid about school food nutrition standards. Did you know that catsup is considered a vegetable according to the food service industry which is a mainstay of the meals served in schools?

see the standards are already fuzzy.  which leads us back to my original point.  doesn't matter who gets the contract.  there will be a perfectly reasonable argument (to the lay person) that their food is healthier then Chik-Fil-A, even if its not.

the important part for the Obama administration is that they stop patronizing a corporation who doesn't hold their same ideals.
9  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 23, 2014, 12:12:00 PM

and is any of this shit true?  no.  this is to create hysteria so food companies can prey on yuppies to buy their gluten free and organic products for 2 times the price.  again, no REAL scientific evidence exists that supports this.  but millions believe it.  the FDA and USDA have done endless amounts of research on this stuff and have never found anything that proved that any of these foods are unhealthy. 

here's the part where some tree hugging lib claims that the FDA and the USDA are in cahoots with large food corporations and keep information from us and give us food that they know will kill us.  yet that same guy voted to have that same government have more control over our health care in 2012.  yeah libs make a lot of sense.
10  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 23, 2014, 12:06:11 PM
Salt is unhealthy, meat is unhealthy, fat is unhealthy and heart healthy whole grains should be emphasized

A big bowl of cheerios with low fat milk, obviously, is the healthiest thing The Childrens should be eating

http://www.blisstree.com/2013/09/03/food/nutrition/10-reasons-to-quit-dairy/

http://wellnessmama.com/575/how-grains-are-killing-you-slowly/

11  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 23, 2014, 12:02:24 PM
Salt is unhealthy, meat is unhealthy, fat is unhealthy and heart healthy whole grains should be emphasized

A big bowl of cheerios with low fat milk, obviously, is the healthiest thing The Childrens should be eating

some idiot could easily say to you, "dairy and grains are horrible for you".

that's the problem.  everyone has a different definition of "healthy" in this country.  and in their own minds they're all exactly right.  except most of those same people are fat fucks who couldn't run a mile or do one pullup to save their life.

my wife is a registered dietitian.  you should hear the stories she tells about how some parents feed their kids because of something their crossfit instructor told them.  you'd laugh your ass off.

so in the end they can use whoever and serve whatever they want.  will it be healthier?  by someone's definition it will be.

12  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 23, 2014, 11:28:42 AM
I'm well aware that people invest in movies

he may or may not have had investors but that doesn't mean the movie didn't lose money

also, since he and his wife produced it and it's a condemnation of the abuses of capitalism I suspect it was self financed (he certainly could afford the 20 million budget himself)
If you have some actual proof that he made money on this film then post it

oh god.  please just stop.
13  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 23, 2014, 11:26:11 AM
he actually lost money

I assume you're aware of the difference between revenue and profit

If you aren't aware of some of the abuses of our current form of capitalism then you're most definitely part of the herd that is being fleeced

LOL!  are you sitting here telling me that you believe that Michael Moore actually paid out of his own pocket to have that movie made?  AND HE PAID OUT MORE THAN HE MADE?

you're a fucking idiot. 
14  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 23, 2014, 10:09:38 AM
How is Moore "anti-capitalist"

Just because he criticizes the criminality of Wall Street and has issues with income inequality, wealth disparity, etc. doesn't make him "anti-capitalist"

I'm pretty sure you have to pay to see his movies

Just more bullshit from the right wing echo chamber

The question I have is do they know this meme is bullshit or are they really this stupid?

um yeah he made a movie showing how bad capitalism is.  and thousands of people went to see it and he made millions of dollars off of it. 

its called "fleecing the sheep".  and I think its hilarious. 
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Building massive quads without squats on: July 23, 2014, 09:37:13 AM
Some people like to use the squat machine.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gbdXMzBfeA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gbdXMzBfeA</a>

I only get pist off when a guy says "I can't squat I have a bad back" and then I see him doing these with 6-7 plates aside.

"if your back was bad there is no way in hell it wouldn't hurt doing those.  you just use the excuse of a bad back so you can inflate your ego with machines"
16  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 23, 2014, 09:00:52 AM
It might be just that.  Still can we agree that much of the food served is crap?  Can we also agree Chic-fil-a is not healthy food?  The law OB signed in 2010 might not be what's needed.  I don't know, i skimmed it a bit and didn't read it in detail.  I thinks its better than not doing anything about it. 

I would assume it would cost more to serve healthy food made from scratch.  But maybe not.  I don't really know. 

agreed.  do I think that the food will be a lot healthier if we go with some other food corp?  no.  not really. 

like I said, they'll get some company to give the same type of food and reduce portion size and now it will be considered "healthy".  just like those Weight Watchers bars that are just candy bars.  but they're real small candy bars.  and they call it "health food".  its all marketing to the masses bullshit. 

its SO EASY for them to do this.  of course Chik-Fil-A is unhealthy.  so they'll use that reason for getting rid of them.  but we all know the real reason.

I think some people believe that these kids are going to get organic, grass fed 95% lean beef in their cheeseburgers and fresh organic fruits and vegetables handed out to them at lunch.  no they won't.  they'll get the same shit they've always gotten.  just a little bit less.
17  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 23, 2014, 08:42:03 AM
Cool.  I think you are probably right.  It will need a large food corp in most areas that will cast political chips into campaigns some how.  But with government regs (yes bad word), certain standards should be met.


I just find it hard to believe that the food they provide will be much better than any other mass produced food and still be able to keep the costs close to what they were paying before. 

and what is Mrs. Obama's standard?  calorie amount in a meal?  that's why she thinks Chik-Fil-A is unhealthy?  the new company will need to do nothing more but reduce their portion sizes and "wallah!" HEALTHIER!  so instead of eating too much CRAP, they will feed the kids a little bit of CRAP. um yay?

in my opinion, this is a political move to tell Chik-Fil-A to go fuck themselves. 

and if Chik-Fil-A wants to scream their political beliefs from the rooftops well they should have expected this. 
18  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 23, 2014, 08:28:28 AM
If that's the case, i wouldn't care so long as certain standards are maintained.  But, if the "giant food" corp serves processed crap then i am not in favor.  And don't kid yourself, if it was a repub thing, they'd give the contract to a right leaning corp.

So far is there any indication of this happening like you suspect?  Or are is it just a suspicion?

I believe there are basic meals that can be served at a reasonable cost that are made from scratch  at most schools.  That would be the best way IMO.

But NOT doing anything about it, and continuing to allow schools to serve shit like Chic-fil-A or in most cases much worse is stupid.

in all honesty i'm just talking shit.  but that doesn't mean i'm not right.  

and I don't think its as easy as you think to provide healthy food and beat out a large food corporation that has the capital and means to produce at a low cost for the contract.  so its obviously going to have to come from a large food company with a lot of capital (i.e. white grey haired rich guy)

so I can easily cry "crony capitalism" even though its impossible to provide a service like this without utilizing a large food corp.  now all the liberals on this board aren't interested in accusing THEIR president of crony capitalism but they wouldn't have hesitated to accuse the President of this from 2000-2008.  that's my whole point.  im a smartass.
19  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 23, 2014, 08:03:39 AM

And right now that huge government contract belongs to chik-fil-a, who produce crap food for the kids. Try again .

um yeah that's why they're going to give the contract to another giant corporation whose political leanings are more suited towards the Obama administration.  that's the whole point of all of this.

do you say the words that you post out loud to yourself before you post them?

I find it funny how the only conspiracy theories you guys but into are the ones that happened before 2008.  do you think crony capitalism died with the Bush administration?  the scary thing is that I think you actually do.
20  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 23, 2014, 07:57:11 AM
the fairy tales you right wingers make up and pass around are just hilarious

I have no doubt you actually believe this narrative even though you just thought it up



its a fairy tale to you that some giant food corporation is going to land a huge government contract when the US starts to subsidize lunches at all of the public schools?  who do you think will provide the food?    
  

21  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 22, 2014, 03:39:57 PM
all any of this shit means is that some corporate friend of the Obama administration is about to get a HUGE government contract to sell his food to our public schools.  and this will make some very rich white man with grey hair a lot richer white man with grey hair.  congrats liberals!

meanwhile the Obama administration panders to the lemmings and proclaims that this as "Mrs. Obama is concerned about the kids health". AWWW.

yeah OK Roll Eyes

its funny how all the hardened conspiracy theorists of 2000-2008 have lost all of their mojo from 2008-present. 

i'll say it again.  for the 1000th time.  all anyone cares about is gay marriage and abortion.  you're all just pretending to care about this shit.
 

 
22  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Meets With Reporters In Off-Record Session on: July 22, 2014, 01:54:49 PM
the conservative posters on this board are too hard on Obama.  that's a fact.  if anyone disputes that you're an idiot.

but the liberal posters really need to take a step back and understand that you don't have to have your lips wrapped around the guys cock every fucking single god damn day.  I mean shit come up for some air once in a while.  you ARE allowed to disagree with someone you voted for.  its OK.  it doesn't make you a hypocrite or wrong for voting for him.  jeez.
23  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism'' on: July 17, 2014, 02:30:04 PM
I seem to remember a few fucking idiots on this board giving me shit for saying almost exactly what this guy is saying. 

These people are risking their life to get away from a country that can't or won't take care of them, and fleeing to a country that will.  then they are taking pride in the fact that they will not, under any circumstances, assimilate at all in the new country.  and if that's not enough, will take every opportunity they have to disrespect the new country that allowed them a safe haven and celebrate the country that abandoned them.

its a knee jerk reaction that these fucking idiot liberals have to anything that's "not American".  white guilt is a real thing and is a byproduct of idiots who watch too much tv.
24  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Angelina Jolie: Hates Obama and calls him a Socialist on: July 17, 2014, 02:16:01 PM
it's inevitable that the pendulum will end up swinging the other way. 

in 10-15 years the Hollywood obsession with the Democratic party will become less trendy and the actors and actresses who go against the grain will suddenly become "the enlightened".  they'll still be completely full of shit and not know what the fuck they are talking about but it will eventually become "so last year to love the Democratic party".
25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: No gym bags allowed in the gym ?? on: July 16, 2014, 12:20:35 PM
This planet fitness crappy rule" its taking over every gym now   but why ?

I mean you buy a gym bag at Golds and then you cant take it to that very same gym unless you leave it at the locker? whats the use for it then ?  so if I need wrist/knee wraps etc I have to carry them around on my hands or walk to the locker room back and forth ?


I already told one of the staff that I need my gym bag as part of workout and is not preventing anyone to mind their business so They can give me my money back and I go somewhere else





what do you think about this 'rule"?





WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

technically at my gym there's a no gym bag rule too.  but there's also a sign in the locker room that's says that they are "not responsible for lost or stolen items".  and shit gets stolen from the locker rooms fairly often.  

so if they would ever call me on it, I would tell them that "if you aren't responsible for my stuff in the locker room, then my stuff stays with me."

I have a belt, wraps, sleeves, nike romaleos, chalk, wallet, some bands, phone, keys all in my gym bag.  that's a lot of money worth of stuff.

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