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1  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 01:20:52 PM
F that - did you see O-twink on the TV yesterday?  Pure BETA - Mobacaa wears the strap on in that family for sure.   Wink Cheesy Grin

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2  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 12:49:07 PM
I am 100% capilitalist and believe in it 100000% - what abuses do I engage in that the govt needs to get involved in?  

The discussion is not about you or your business practices.

But, thanks for asking a question if answered that no one would have the means to verify or validate or even give a shit about.   Smiley

PS:  also thank you for not making another of many homo-obsessed OB attack

3  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 12:26:24 PM
Thank you.  This thread is dumb. 

Holy shit, Michael Moore isn't a saint?  Stop the presses!  I mean, for fuck's sake just because he doesn't live like a monk on a mountain top doesn't mean that he doesn't make good points about some of capitalism's pitfalls.  Wasn't there recently a book about the life of Jesus Christ written by some scholarly academic who happened to be Muslim?  (Hmmm, this comparison isn't so great when I think about it, but screw it.)

Other than when you accidentally posted that satirical news item, this thread is boring, too.

BTW, Bears, I think you're a standup guy for the way you admitted your mistake there.  You did not beat around the bush or make retarded excuses.  Rare for this place. 

Kudos, honestly.

Another thing to consider....   Does the Mike being a hypocrite or not take anything away from his charges against abuses and unethical practices in the capitalism system?

It's common tactic to attack the messenger to invalidate the message.
4  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 30, 2014, 02:23:49 PM
I don't want it to be anything.  I don't care about that dude.  I have nothing invested in this. 

Yes, his comments can mean many things.  I've reached my own conclusions about them.  You've reached a different conclusion about them.  No biggie.   

You can say the 49ers are evil and profit off of poor fans, then sell 49er hats to poor fans making millions in the process.  That would make you a hypocrite, just like Moore. 

The difference is, I am not saying they are evil because they profit from poor fans by sellling caps, and I am not profiting from selling caps, just as Moore is not saying they are evil from owing property.

But again, its a whole lot easier to take comments, cherry pick them, paint them with a broad brush to force them to fit your opinion?

Label-Ignore-Demonize. 
5  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Mom arrested for letting son walk to park alone on: July 30, 2014, 01:25:47 PM
Good point about kids walking to school.  Still, I don't like the idea of a seven year old kid doing what this kid did.  And if you listened to him, he's really vulnerable.  Also, the mom saying he has a cell phone, as if this makes it ok, is pretty naive on her part.

What's wrong with this Mom?

I wouldn't let my son do that at 11 years old.
6  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: She is a moron and her entire political party are full of retards on: July 30, 2014, 01:11:45 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/29/Nancy-Pelosi-We-Cannot-Have-Deportation-Without-Representation

During a hearing with House Democrats on Tuesday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi argued that the bill proposed by Republicans did not have the adequate resources to help unattended minors crossing the border with the immigration court process.
The bill, announced by Republicans on Tuesday, would spend $659 million in new spending in response to the crisis on the border.

Citing a friend, Pelosi said that “we cannot have deportation without representation,” and she praised the groups that were working to help the detained children.

The hearing featured unattended minors, now living in the United States, who complained about how border officials treated them.

“It’s not just about having a heart; it’s about having a soul,” Pelosi said after the children finished testifying. “And the soul of our country is about respecting the dignity and worth of every person. The soul of our country is about giving every person access to rights who is in our country.”

Pelosi noted that sending the children back to their home countries would be like sending them “back into a burning building.”

She again compared the children to the baby Jesus, who fled his home country as an infant to escape violence. 

“So we do appeal to our country and our colleagues to have a heart when it comes to people coming into our country, some seeking amnesty and asylum to escape violence in Central America or wherever they come from,” she said.



And yet she's continued to DOMINATE in congress.

Why is this leech ass BITCH still there?
7  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 30, 2014, 01:06:45 PM
He said capitalism is evil.  He did not limit his comments to individuals or companies within the capitalist system.  An indictment of the entire system is as broad as you can get.  That's the context.

No it isn't.  You want it to be, but its not. 

Its a broad brush statement that can mean many different things.  Especially if its subject is something as complex and multifaceted as capitalism.  That's why i can say the 49er's sucka nd they are the best team ever in the same sentence.

That's why his hypocrisy or lack thereof is in the details. 
8  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 30, 2014, 12:49:11 PM
Of course not.  Nobody knows what is in the man's heart.  I'm just giving my opinion based his words, context, conduct, and common sense.

What context was he saying that in, and what other comments supports that context?
9  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 30, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
well he did.  they backed the Weinstein's who funded his movie.

Michael Moore can play 25 degrees of separation in Fahrenheit 9/11 and everyone is convinced GWB planned 9/11.  I play 2 degrees of separation and you don't believe it.  wow.

again.  i'm not sure if its true what I posted.  if it is.  YES.  that's hypocritical.

I'd like to see that if you can post something.

BTW fahrenheit 9/11 is the reason i think moore is a jack ass.

10  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 30, 2014, 09:41:25 AM
if I said "Gay people are evil.  And it is impossible to regulate evil.", would you be as forgiving with me as you are being with Michael Moore?

would you jump to my defense and say "what if he just meant the bad gay people"?

Yeah.  You have seen me attack and defend both sides repeatedly on this board.  

First thing i would ask is:  Why do you think they are evil? (especially is thats the one and only comment i have to go on.)  It could be because they are sinning against god, having sex with the same sex is revolting, and or because you think they are all sex offenders.  Or it could be other reasons.  I don't know.  

I do think that Homosexuality is a little bit less complex than capitalism.  But i do get your the point you are trying to make.

Note:  I think Moore is a piece of shit.  but i don't see his comments (all fo them in context), his film and the fact that he owns property and is wealthy as a hypocrisy.  Ironic, note worthy, indirectly conflicting, but not a hypocrisy.   
11  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 30, 2014, 09:19:54 AM
I'm actually applying his comments in the broad context in which they were made.  He condemned the entire system, not just individuals within the system.


So you know exactly what he meant when he said it?
12  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 29, 2014, 02:40:29 PM
No, I usually ignore posts from the Village Idiot.   Cheesy

But I think where you and I disagree is the scope of the context.  You are placing a much narrower focus on his anti-capitalist talk than me. 

Lol.  He posted a quote from Moore. 

I am looking at why he called capitalism evil.  If he owns  company that is doing those things he points out or or he himself is doing them, then IMO he's a hypocrite.

You seem to be talking his comment and applying a broad brush to it ignoring the reason and context for it.
13  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 29, 2014, 02:22:55 PM
Obviously me calling him a hypocrite is my opinion.  Just like you cherry picking comments, ignoring others, splitting hairs, and creating your own definitions to avoid calling him a hypocrite is your opinion. 

Calling him a hypocrite is not demonizing him. 

I've not ignored his comments.  I.have used them in many of my posts explaining that there were reasons for why he said them.   Perhaps that's another thing you are ignoring....how I have put them in my reponses

Have you taken into consideration any of Moore's other comments?   See Straws post.
14  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 29, 2014, 01:51:42 PM
yes, because you've shown that Moore has stated he is opposed to private ownership of property

right?



TUNNEL VISION TRUTH
15  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 29, 2014, 01:49:38 PM
I labeled him a hypocrite because that's what he is. 

You labeled him a hypocrite because that's what you think he is.  Its you opinion nothing more.  Its a label that's based on a BIAS that ignores all his other comments.  It s also an opinion that ignores the reasons for the comment: "Capitalism is evil" so that you can demonize him by call him a hypocrite

Hence:  tunnel vision truth.


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You're the one inserting your own definitions, claiming he has to be a communist before we can call him a hypocrite.  I guess that's one way to look at it, but it doesn't make sense to me.

No i gave an example of how a charge of hypocrisy would be better justified, INSTEAD of cherry picking, labeling, ignoring and demonizing.

 
16  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 29, 2014, 01:37:28 PM
And you trust the assholes in DC to set the standards?

No. 

17  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 29, 2014, 01:36:06 PM
FAGbama and her husband should focus on more important issues than this nonsense. 

Oh look a homosexual reference about OB in an discussion from SC.

Why am i not surprised?

Another quip from the conservative cry baby.
18  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 29, 2014, 01:34:38 PM
Or, we could cherry pick some comments, split hairs, and ignore the actual words the man said.  I prefer my approach. 

EXACTLY!

You LABELED him a hypocrite

You have IGNORED the other words he said and the context upon which he said "CAPITALISM IS EVIL"

And then have proceeded to DEMONIZE him.  

Progress and truth in action folks!

Tunnel vision truth!

19  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 29, 2014, 01:30:44 PM
LOL the standards .gov sets, ketchup is a vegetable...........


And the far left would spend more and more time of PC crap, and never mind about actually preparing kids for the real world.

I know.  That's what some of the problems are for sure.

The question is, are those the standards in that 2010 law?

If so, they need to be changed. 

the point is, a standard needs to be set.  NOT ANY STANDARD.   
20  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 29, 2014, 01:24:04 PM
Its comical how California liberal dolts like ozmo straw buy into this bullshit hook line and sinker

I doubt your stupid ass has anything intelligence to contribute to the conversation other than, CHOOB, THUG CHUMP QUEER blah blah.

So keep to yourself you conservative cry baby.

LABEL IGNORE DEMONIZE!
21  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 29, 2014, 01:21:42 PM
Yes, calling capitalism evil, claiming he is not part of the 1 percent, etc., etc., then making enormous profits using that same evil system is completely hypocritical.  

Yeah, when you take his comments out of context, paint it with a broad brush, and then ignore everything else he says on subject.  You are right, very hypocritical.   Roll Eyes

That's how we should go about things right?  Just pick out the one thing that fits into our BIAS VIEW and block everything else out.  Brilliant.

We all should be striving for that kind of awareness.  We could even do it physically.  We could paint over the lenses of our glasses except for a little tiny hole the size of a pin.....  that way we can have tunnel vision and not have to see anything we don't want to see allowing us to DAM anyone or anything that doesn't fit into the stereotype we place on them.  

Progress, the conservative way:  

LABEL IGNORE DEMONIZE!



22  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 29, 2014, 01:12:47 PM

There is a point when .gov surpasses providing for the common good. That point comes when every thing that gets presented as a possible health danger becomes fair game for .gov to step in.

I agree.


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Why are cigarettes legal? Because of the huge amount of tax that is collected
Why is booze legal? Because of the huge amount of tax that is collected ( not to mention they tried once and the Mob met the demand)

I think there is more to it than a simplistic reason (tax dollars)  for those things to be legal.

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See a pattern here, if .gov can tax anything and make huge revenue, well fuck your health............

I think you are applying incorrect association.  Otherwise, why isn't meth legal?

Point is there is more to it than that concerning those things you listed.

But back the original discussion.....

We aren't talking about the "government providing"  we are talking about having a standard for the food served in public schools. 

the extreme righties would still have the F R E E D O M to choose a private school build on dirt roads that serves twinkees if they want and parents will still have the F R E E D O M TO send their kids to school with twinkies.
23  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 29, 2014, 01:07:53 PM
No.  You saying the 49ers are evil and profit off of poor people, then selling 49er caps and using that income to make money off of poor people would make you a hypocrite.  That's a much closer analogy. 


No, Moore's criticism of Capitalism and its abuses are not related to him making movies and profiting off those movies. does he say in his movies ITS NOT OK to profit?  Or is he saying there are abuses that are unethical with in capitalism?

therefore.....  your analogy of the 49'ers profiting from poor people and him selling caps doesn't fit at all.
24  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 29, 2014, 12:47:08 PM
No Straw, lets ignore Michael Moore's other statements, and instead cherry pick ones that we can use to support a charge of hypocrisy even if those cherry picked statements do little to show a hypocrisy.

Let's then also ignore his actual criticism of capitalism and just ignorantly assume that any criticism he makes against capitalism means he totally against capitalism. 

Just me criticizing the San Francisco 49'ers but also wearing a 49'er baseball cap.

Sound logic for the easily manipulated unthinking masses. 
25  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 29, 2014, 12:22:57 PM
the point is that you cannot argue after watching his documentary that he's not anti capitalist.

I think if he was an anti capitalist he'd move to a communist country or at the very least be a member the communist party, active or otherwise.  Then, him owning 9 houses would make him a hypocrite. 

However, making a video calling Capitalism evil and or criticizing its abuses while owning homes and making a profit doesn't make him a hypocrite.
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