Amazing fleet of vehicles.  They should do an Mtv cribs show on flex!

With Pros in their early 40ies being a regular sight in pro shows the entry age should be at least 45 if not 50.

I have no idea how much money could be won but I imagine that it might not be enough to be stretched out among several winners in several age classes so instead of putting up more money they scrapped the idea of the age classes - might be the best idea anyway from the viewpoint of keeping those older guys healty - no contest no heavy drug use

it is like this ,, ill tell you how the natural mind work lol

2 year natural ,, on some protien pwoder the infamous weight gainer lol and creatine diahreeas....

then another 6 months on diff creatinethat doesnt cause diarea lol and then bcaa and what other balonieisthere ? lol ummmm bcaa and GLUTAMIN lol yes glutamine...

 and then at the 3 year mark! the true natural go to .... pro hormones! ,, he go to  pro hormones or designer steroids ...now this.... is steroids my friends,, but we forgivehim for that lol so he uses halodrol or superdrol or whatever designer REAL steroids out there....and gain his 10lb and this dont go away anywhere...he keep them so sudenly the so call true natural isno more 178lb but he is 188!  lol and he is hormonized but he is forgiven and remain natural since he did it only ....for ....7 weeks or 5 weeks so it doesnt count,,so that 8-10 lb dont count ...he is forgiven lol

thennnn in the 4 year mark the peptides come in ... lol and the esterless compounds lol ,, the peptides ofcourse are for research so it is natural ,, everyone sell them ,, look online lol every boarding has them free for everyone to use lol 40 dolaros and you got peptides who put water into muscle lol  so it is used by naturals ,,

and ofcourse on top of that ANTI ESTROGENS AND AROMATZE INHIBITOR...FOR RESEARCH USED ALL OVER BY TRUE NTURALS..

so sadly this is true natural for you today ,, some fellasdo it with out all this ...and only use some halodrol at one time and creatine,, those are the only one who are close to true naturals....

this is the truth my friends,, this si the truth!

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heh thats the worst part, you work so hard to build every ounce natural, but to lean out you have to sacrifice so much it seems not worth it almost.

good luck.

excellent, thats about 15 pounds gained? were you relatively the same leaness? also, had you been working out consistently before the age of 24?

haha I like this question

this is me in 2005 on the left

2008 on the right

that is a 15 lbs gain, in 3 years !

now in 2001 I would be about 15 lbs bigger than the picture on the right

so ON DRUGS, I gain about 5 lbs a year

yes thats why i said "not during puberty" or "not newbie gains", i personally went from 150 to 175 over 3-4 years, but it was newb growth and in my late teens to around 21 - a time when anyone with testicles can grow. im asking about REAL gains.

a question, since i didnt think it was worth a thread ill ask it here.

how many people have gained 20 lbs (approx., i mean significant noticable gains), with these proviso

1- NOT NEWBIE gains, meaning you had never worked out or eaten with the purpose to grow ever before. lets say at least 5 years training, AFTER which you put on an additional 20 lbs.

2- LEAN WEIGHT, obviously some fat is always put on, but im talkng you are gaining more muscle than fat, not a 15 pounds of fat, 5 pounds muscle "bulk cycle"

3- ADULT GAINS, not 'well i started lifting at 15, now im 20 and gained xxx weight'. that doesnt count, because going through puberty adds weight/muscle without touching a weight, or even really trying to eat to gain.

4- CLEAN, the tough one.

im just curious. even if it took 10 years after the initial 'newbie' growth spurt, im wondering how many have put on 20 lean pounds as an adult, drug free.

true natural bodybuild,, aka creatine and protien powder with food,, well...it take all yoru life and really 247 no life type of activity ,, yuo haveno social life what so ever,, maybe movie once in a while but really your life is around kitchen and sleeping and maybefewhours work in the night,, other than that you train you rest you eat lol and the best of them also! do not get ovrer 170lb on stage at 5'10 they just do not,, if you see 170ln 5'10 on stage true natural you should kiss the ground he walk on ,, IF he is true natural because...yuo withness the real real real genetic marvels

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small can be greatif it is conditioned ...ofcourse it can not win a national show,, but small can be great if it is conditioned size,, it can ,, iworked with many smaller fellas 165lb conditioned,, theylooked real real good ,, ofcourse with shirt on yuo woudlnt think they touched weights lol well this is exaguration ..since you can tell how lean they are and yuo can see muscle moving on theback and elsewhere...but over all conditioned size is good at any weight that is in balance with yuor height,,

ofcourse 140lb 5'11 will not look good no matter what ,, no matter how condition you wil be140lb 5'11 is just too thin too skinny or thin depends on the build of thefella

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still trev ..u think he is off here???

example i can start shoot 1g mix anabolics each week if i keep calories at 1700-2000 u think i will be branch waren??no! u will see me and post my pics here and say im all natural bla bla bla


i love srge phisique but only true is ONLY HIM!!!! know what eh took....

You're forgetting the important point.

gh15 is god and since Vince one day stepped into a gym he has to be hormonised, any pics you see of him looking natural are after he came off gear, remember you can only gain 10 pounds naturally because that's twice what gh15 gained and he's just being generous

Zane 3 time Mr.o .....now a happy old man



Zyzz died at 23  

I don't see it, Labrada was outclassed, outmatched in the relaxed...


If Labrada was 205, I could see him winning, but in the 90s, Labrada was to light to fight, and this was 2x in a row.
By 98, Labrada's physique wouldn't even have won him a Pro card...as great as it was.

ok i get it, you're retarded.

Looks ok, but "40 yrs ahead of his time".....?