I buddy of mine was having issues with getting his back to grow. So I watched one of his back workouts and he was doing one arm rows with 40's. He was curling 45's at the time with super strict form. I got him to start using 80's and showed him how do them properly, within 3 months there was a noticeable difference in his back.

Haha, I see what you did there. Well played sir, well played.

What about after? No stone unturned right? 

Isn't it ironic that the guy who starts his own thread here about his shoulder issues won't bother to read through a thread that is mainly about that?

Read the thread and then comment

I was able to move up from 105's for 3 sets of 10-15 to the 115's for 3 sets of 10-15 fairly quick. And my grip strength improved as well.

The reason you see more powerlifters with knee issues than oly lifters is because there are waaaaaayyyy more ELITE powerlifters over 30 than there are oly lifters. Not to mention the fact that there are considerably more powerlifters than oly lifters in the U.S. period.

Also, they don't necessarily wear them for squatting per se but simply because they wear them in competition for the c&j and the snatch. Those two movements definetely have much better stabilty when you are catching the bar explosively in a squat position with the heel raised.

Love one arm rows. My gym's db's only go to 150 and I have done those for a set of 8. But honestly last time I included them in my routine I did 3 sets of 10-15 with 115 without straps and felt like I got much more out of them that way.

This is something I should have been doing  years ago.

Agree 100%. I had issues with front squats until I fixed my flexibility.

Did you even bother to read all of the posts in this thread or did you just read the thread title and decide to bless us with your opinion?

Haha, with my work schedule though a yoga dvd may be the best option.

Personally I am not really doing this in terms of development either. I just know that muscle imbalances can cause issues and pain, so from that perspective I want to try and see how this works out. I know a lot of people with shoulder issues and discomfort and I rarely see anyone do any direct front delt work.

I have done my fair share of stupid shit in the gym like doing heavy 4 rep max sets on incline and flat dumbell presses, but I also have always made it a point to have a balance between my back work and pressing as well as direct rear delt work. So I guess when I compare myself to others I know my shoulder health is in damn good shape. But I also know that discomfort is a sign of worse issues down the road so I am trying to be proactive.

That clip right there is what got me into training with weights. Before that I just did the basic pushups, dips, and chins with my bodyweight.

Watching that clip made me realize that I have to start doing something for my legs and made me fall in love with squats.

Nothing wrong with yoga, if it keeps you injury free and improves your joint and ligament health the joke is on the "tough guys" who are getting injured.

I have been meaning to look into doing some yoga myself.

Everyone inevitably favors one side over the other (to some extent) when doing barbell and even dumbell work so it makes sense to not have an issue with both shoulders, or perhaps one more than the other.

The front, rear, and side delts are relatively small muscle groups compared to the pecs and lats, so I think to say that the 3 delt heads get plenty of work from pressing and rowing might be wishful thinking. In my expirience to properly hit them you have to make it a point to concentrate on them and it's a bit counter productive trying to concentrate on the rear delts when you are doing a heavy set of bent over rows.

This whole thing started to get my attention when I did a 3 times a week full body routine at the beginning of last year. The majority of my isolation work that I used to do got cut out. I started noticing a slight pain in my right shoulder after several months. I didn't think much of it at the time. Then after 5 months I switched back to my usual training and the slight pain went away. Back in last August I decided to do another cycle of full body training, this time it was my left shoulder that started to give me problems. But this wasn't a slight pain, this was damn near a full blown injury. Since then, I have dropped the full body training and my shoulder is getting better and better.

      Personally I think that there is something to be said about the importance of isoloation work for muscle groups like shoulders, low back, hamstrings, quads, chest. Not just from a development point of view but for balance and injury prevention. I know that Olympic athletes like gymnasts, weightlifters, throwers, etc. don't use isolation movements like these, but then again most of them are late teens to mid twenties and might not feel the same types of aches and pains as those of us who have been training for 10 years and are around the 30 and over mark.

Right now I am doing seated front plate raises with a 45 for 3 sets of 9-12 at the end of my pressing workouts. It's early to tell about the long term, but my shoulders are starting to feel better during my pressing movements.

WOOO how has your overall shoulder health been?

I have very rarely done any direct front delt work because I was following the common logic that front delts get plenty of stimulation from all of the pressing movements. I have recently started doing them consistently not necessarily for shoulder development but for overall shoulder health. I have always done direct work for the side delts and the rear delts.

IMO it's not the best idea to train every workout like you are ready to go through a wall. It's extremely taxing and will burn you out quickly. Now if you are going for a personal best in a lift then it's great to have that extra motivation, but for the regular sessions I think it's best to come in with a level mood and focus.

It depends on your body proportions and the way you do them, where you will see the most growth ( glutes, hams, quads ).
They will definetely build size if you have enough volume and eat enough. You should check out the Smolov Squat cycle if you're serious about it, plenty of volume there for your legs to grow and boost your squat numbers.

That looks like a good one, will be trying that out.

Of course.

Walking lunges
3 sets, same weight 8-12 reps per leg ( 16-24 total steps per set )

Why are we going back and forth about this then, this is all I am trying to say here.