In the Pumping Iron book, I believe.

When? I mean, just watch Pumping Iron again you can see when he flexes his calves how deep the striations are. I don't think you could do that with a silicone injection

One of my workout partners did this in college. he's not a very big guy, but he wore a ratty ripped shirt, fanny pack, shitkicker boots and a head band with sun glasses and headphones,. He'd use his water and towel to claim a bench (it's a college gym, the benches are the only thing that gets used) and anytime anyone tried to take his bench or other piece of equipment he'd grunt, say "3 more sets" and shoo them away. They either thought he looke dto tough or crazy to deal with, but it worked.

That's because Melvin is the Mr. Miyagi to your Daniel-san

Got up to 180. Dieted down to 168 for a contest right after that.

My supplement routine varies, depending on what kind of training I'm doing and how my money situation is, but the biggest stack I ever took at once was:
NO-Xplode
Nitrix
Gakic
Leukic
BCAA's
Glutamine
Kre-alkalyn
P6 (trib based test booster)
Thermo-gain

Man that was fun. between that, the workouts and eating 8 times a day I put on a lot of weight. No more middleweights for me

Hmm. . . I do live at Purdue, and they are one of the ones doing the testing. . . not that I'd be interested in such a thing for any purpose other than research, of course 

Being short and stocky definitely helps. I'm 5' 6" and 195, and my workout partner is 6' 1", and we've both noticed that it's easier for me to put on weight. Part of it is genetics (poor guy is all ecto all the time) but a lot of it is that I can just move more weight than him because my structure is better for it. I work on a college campus that has the second largest fraternity/sorority system in the world, so there are plenty of frat guys and ROTC guys around that juice. It's sad because most of them are taking way too much for the level that they're at, and they end up with physiques that aren't as big or look as good as my workout partner and I, and they look even worse off the sauce.

Excellent post. And you're absolutely right. By saying that because someone is natural, they're not a real bodybuilder, you're validating the "haters". You're saying that what makes a bodybuilder is the drugs, not all the hard work, the hours in the gym and the life structured around perfecting your body. When you choose to make that commitment, when you choose to change your lifestyle to one that focuses on training, eating and sleeping, that's what makes you a bodybuilder. By jmt1's logic, my years of hard work and toils and perservernce don't make me a bodybuilder, but if some frat boy shoves a needle into his ass, trains just bi's and chest and continues to live off of pizza and beer, he's a bodybuilder. I think that's BS. I'm natural, and I'm proud of that fact. I'm proud of the gains that I've gotten. Do I think steroids are dangerous? If abused, yes. Do I begrudge other people who use them? No, not if used properly. I think there is a problem in that frequently they are not. I don't think kids in high school should be taking them. I don't think people who have just started training should be taking them. I don't think that drugs should be the foundation of a physique. A foundation should be hard work, determination, and discipline. If and when someone comes to the point when their genetics will take them no further, then it is up to them to decide whether to juice or not, and I respect their right to weigh their options and make their own decision. It's one I will have to make one day, but not yet. jmt1, but lashing out against natural bodybuilders, you're only reinforcing the negative stereotypes that the outside world has of bodybuilding. The rest of the world think that all of our muscles, natural or not, come from a bottle. You're being just as ignorant and closed minded as they are, but much much worse, because you know better. Steroids is something that everyone has their own opinion on, and everyone is entitled to that opinion and to make whatever choices they want in regards to their body. Whether someone chooses to use steroids or not does not make them any better or worse. It is not a negative or positive trait, it simply is something that they have chosen to do or not do, and everyone is entitled to that. We can pass judgement about how someone goes about using steroids, whether or not they are doing it safely and whether or not they were ready to take that step, but I do not think it is right to pass judgement on them for making the choice itself. That's like looking down on people for drinking beer, or not drinking beer. Either is valid, and neither is a wrong choice. It is only when it becomes alcohol abuse that anyone can pass judgement.
That's my two cents, and then some

I read Sam Fussel's book. Interesting. I liked it overall, but definitely focused on the negative. He tried to write "from the inside", but he is clearly viewing it as an outsider. He's trying to display bodybuilding as a freakshow, playing up all the urban legends about it. There is some truth in those myths, but only some. Dave Draper is one fo my favorite writers, but my favorite BB book is still Pumping Iron. Charles Gaines perfectly captured the sport in his writing, punctuating his writing with the photographs of George Butler. The fact that many of the problems with bb that Gaines touches on in Pumping Iron are still problems in the sport today says alot about his insightfulness

 

Dammit! I can't un-see that! Thank god only one of the links worked

Totally! I mean, all the muscletech ads tell me that chicks love guys who are anabolic and have big guns, so these guys must get tons of ass!

Speaking of which, if they're willing to inject that much into their arms to get bigger, think they injected anywhere else to attract even more female attention?

Apparently so, though I gotta wonder about the membership of "Team Sprayflex". Last I heard Mark Dugdale was the small guy in the Nutrex ads and David Henry was in every third Muscletech ad.

On another note, one thing that bugs me about Muscle Radio is that I can barely hear the guests speak, so I either have to put the speaker next to my ear to hear them or turn up the volume and have Larry Pepe sound like the wizard of Oz

I like his show too, but when it got off the ground it seemed like every other guest was a Sprayflex athlete. PBBW is definitely the best on the air.

Check out their Eat this! episode on there too:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7592468947754427068
It's about bullshit fad diets

Maybe K's plan is to get his gut to be so large that it collapses in on itself like a blackhole. It would eb the ultimate vacuum pose!

Amazing! And to think they built those with a curl machine and hard work