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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Frank Zane at his most massive. on: July 30, 2014, 01:06:35 PM
Robby should have beaten Zane in 79 and won the Olympia.

I think you mean '78. Mentzer won the over-200-lb class in '79.
2  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama: "Stop Hatin All the Time"- response to GOP lawsuit over abuse of power on: July 30, 2014, 12:51:35 PM

I had to switch to another local station to listen to Rush, because of the live coverage of that gibberish.

3  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 29, 2014, 03:07:12 PM
Let's not get side tracked talking about who we would have supported when and where, and not get side tracked talking about something that isn't happening.

I don't think we are talking about having the government provide the food, nor is there any program enacted or proposed for a vote saying that.

I think its important that the government set standards on what can and can not be served at public schools.   I am not sure that this law signed in 2010 does what's needed to make sure healthy foods (with in reason) are served at public schools.  What ever these standards are they need to be realistic and reasonable, otherwise I am against it.  Things like just reducing portion size or re categorizing crappy foods as healthy I am certainly against.

But can we agree that much of what's served now isn't healthy and chic-fil-a is definitely NOT healthy?


Agree with the former, not necessarily with the latter. Chic-Fil-A's food is just fine, when eaten occasionally as designed. It ain't supposed to be the cornerstone of your diet. Besides, the "least healthy" of their items would be their fried chicken sandwich. But even it is fried in peanut oil, I believe. They stopped the trans fat stuff long before doing so became en vogue.

I'd take Chic-Fil-A over Mickey D's and Burger King all day. Plus, the lemonade (actual real lemonade) is fantastic.
4  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Sarah Palin launches online TV channel on: July 29, 2014, 10:24:05 AM
She could have waited a few more months for CNN to go under and she'd get it for pennies on the dollar (if Murdoch doesn't buy it first).

 Grin
5  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 29, 2014, 10:18:20 AM
who says I have "high faith in "Chik-Fil-A"?  i've never even eaten there.  i'm sure its just like all other fast food places.

and yes i have very little faith in the government to provide services like these.  you should too.  i'm sure you didn't have this faith from 2000-2008.  but now you do?




Plus, if a corporation or company sucks, you can take your business elsewhere. You can't do that with the government, which is why so many libs want them running so much stuff.

6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none. on: July 29, 2014, 10:10:05 AM
Dear potato head, learn your history: google land of Judea and the Hebrew Kingdome.  They both are more than 1500 years older than any muslim in the history of the world, so who really have the rights to Palestine? Ragheads who take the land from the jews, or jews who take it back?  

I wish Israel would just end it and blast Palestine and Hamas into oblivion. They want holy war; they want Jihad? GIVE IT TO THEM!!

It's the same old crap. Palestinians and Hamas  start popping off at the mouth about holy war and the Jews' blood, flowing through the streets, while firing rockets into their cities

Yet when Israel has had it and starts beating their @$$&$, they cry like sissies and run to the UN.

It's like someone, going to gym, calling a 300-lb monster a homo and slapping him in the face, only to act surprised when he pounds you into the floor and sends you to the hospital.
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Lou Ferrigno - Picture Gallery, Discussion on: July 28, 2014, 05:35:16 AM
Like Lou or not he should have won the Masters Olympia.When he did the Mr Olympia I think in 1994, he got 12th place,? LOL At 300 plus lbs? They didnt like Lou/.

That was 1992. And they apparently liked Lou enough, as he got a secon consecutive special invite to the Olympia in '93. He placed 10th that year.
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath Trains Legs, Talks GIfted , Cockyness , And Success In Life on: July 27, 2014, 10:49:55 AM
Seriously one of most pussy-ass leg sessions I have ever seen from a top pro bodybuilder.

He should be ASHAMED to have this available for people to view.

No guts ... no ROM ... no sweat ... no danger ... no "tough" exercises ...

Not a champion.

You're judging his success and his guts on a video less than five minutes long?

As for his not being a champion, the three Sandows on his mantle say otherwise.



9  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Vince McMahon Sticking it to his Carnival Roady employees on: July 25, 2014, 12:16:55 PM
WCW was...with the exception of the period of 1996-1998, a clusterfuck.  Jim Cornette is a dick...he wants to run the show but the only time he had complete control of a company it went belly up.  Sure, he has a nice grasp of the traditional southern "wrasslin' bidness", but that's about it.

They have something with the Wyatts, Cesaro, Cody Rhodes,  Reigns, Ambrose and Rollins...hopefully, they won't fuck it up with them like they did with Ziggler and Johnny "Fandango" Curtis.   If they can get Daniel Bryan back healthy, they have a number fo directions they could go in

I take it you're cool with Cody Rhodes' morphing into.....STARDUST!!

10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Paul Dillett - 1993 Ironman Pro PICS!!! on: July 25, 2014, 10:41:01 AM
MCWAY we all know what do you think about placings and judging, always fair and perfect in your opinion... For you retiring Labrada and Taylor (better conditioning than Paul? Absolutely not...) placing in front of that alien monster was the right thing, for me Paul should have been second, behind Wheeler, both at the Ironman and ASC in 1993... Labrada is/was a far better bodybuilder than shrimp Heath, only height was his weakness, far better structure, conditioning, posing, and just as good muscle bellies... 1993 Dillett would dwarf Heath into oblivion, everything far superior, with comparable conditioning, with Heath winning only on back detail and posing... Paul's structure alone with that unmatched shoulders-to-waist ratio would make the Narrow One disappear into submission... Hey, agree to disagree, this is how i see it...

I never claimed judging was always fair. But, when you lose REPEATEDLY to a guy over 70 lbs lighter, it's not simply due to allegedly unfair judging. Dillett "dwarfed" Labrada too. But, he couldn't beat him and he had his troubles with Taylor.


To claim Dillett would beat Heath, whose only about 25 lbs lighter than Dillett in his prime, makes no sense.

It happens frequently in bodybuilding. Smaller but better-conditioned and proportioned guys beat bigger guys.

Someone mentioned Markus Ruhl. After his big NOC win in 2002, he lost in Italy to a way smaller Darrem Charles. We know of the story of a shredded Rich Gaspari, beating a much larger Vic Richards. And we all know what happened in 2008 at the Olympia.
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Botched Execution Bullshit on: July 25, 2014, 06:50:24 AM
Ummmm....if the guy's still DEAD, how is it a botched execution?
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 2014 Olympia - Dexter Jackson Top Five! on: July 25, 2014, 06:43:59 AM
So if Dexter was to do it, he would join just Franco Columbu and Frank Zane of the only people to hold both titles. That would be pretty cool.

Zane and Columbu did that simply because that's how the rules were at the time. The goal was to win the overall. We don't herald the guys for just winning the 200-lb+ classes (Waller, Mentzer, Robinson).
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Paul Dillett - 1993 Ironman Pro PICS!!! on: July 25, 2014, 06:29:36 AM
Its insane how he was so big, yet was able to keep his waist in check.

7.8 heaths wider than Phil

Yet he got waxed repeatedly by guys over 70 lbs lighter. Heath would take Dillett apart.

If you can't beat Lee Labrada, you can't touch Phil Heath.
14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Paul Dillett - 1993 Ironman Pro PICS!!! on: July 25, 2014, 06:22:20 AM
I liked this or his 1993 ASC look the best.
On the video he actually gets big applause when he
hits his rear lat spread.

In 1994 he was more ripped but lost some roundness
in the Grand Prix he won.
In 1996 he came in at 275 instead of 263 in 1993
and lost alot of that small waist;  incredible V taper in open
arm poses.
1st time I saw this vid back in 1993 my 1st thought was...
This is the 1st BBer who has long arms with full muscle bellies
like Arnold.
My 2nd thought was how in the heck did Vince beat Dillett.


Easy! Better conditioning and posing.
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Jim Carrey: "Why You Shouldn't Fear Failure" on: July 24, 2014, 02:05:01 PM
Of course he is claiming to be successful, if he was a failure, he sure as hell wouldn't be advocating risking failure.  Many people do what they love to do and don't make millions,but you don't see these people giving lectures about how to achieve such a status.  Only someone with a massive ego would do such a thing.  For someone who is doing what he loves, he sure has suffered his fair share of depression, battling it his whole life.

Carrey was invited to speak at a college graduation. It's safe to say the folk who invited him view him as a success. Who do you expect them to stick up there, the local wino?

From the looks of it. Carrey hardly came from a "privileged" background.

And there are a number of people, not necessarily millionaires, who speak to young people about success in life.

But, if it makes YOU feel better that nearly everyone with more money/fame/prestige/whatever-you-value-most-in-life just got lucky, knock yourself out. But, you may find yourself looking a bit green after while.
16  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Paul Dillett - 1993 Ironman Pro PICS!!! on: July 24, 2014, 01:53:43 PM
mcway you're going the right way for a smacked bottom

For telling the truth? As awesome as Dillett was in his own right, he repeatedly got whipped by a guy who didn't even sniff 200 lb (Labrada).

A guy who can't beat the "Flea" can suddenly handle "the Gift"? PLEASE!!
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Paul Dillett - 1993 Ironman Pro PICS!!! on: July 24, 2014, 01:40:26 PM
wow... 3.3 Heaths wide!!  Shocked

Dillett and Ruhl are the only ones I can think of reaching the 3.0+ Heaths wide!! maybe Joel stubbs too.

Yet, at last count, Heath has more Sandows and more pro wins overall than Dillett, Ruhl, and Stubbs....COMBINED!!
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Paul Dillett - 1993 Ironman Pro PICS!!! on: July 24, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
Better than Philsulin Heath.


WoooSHHHHHHHH

Hardly!! Dillett, in his prime, couldn't beat Labrada who was on his way to retiring, much less take on Heath now.
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Jim Carrey: "Why You Shouldn't Fear Failure" on: July 24, 2014, 09:53:21 AM
Personally, I couldn't think of anything worse than to be rich and famous and a puppet to even more rich and famous people.  Just because you have more wealth than others doesn't mean you are successful.  This is the mistake people like Jim Carrey make, pretending he is successful,   while those who haven't made a fortune are failures.  In my eyes, the majority of these types of people are failures, they have sold out and live disingenuously.  But I understand it's important for the average punter who is deeply unsatisfied with his life and feeds into the Cultural relativism of the day to have something to aspire to even if only subconsciously they know they will never achieve it regardless of how hard they work or how much failure they risk.

For every Jim Carrey there are countless others treading the same path with as much talent and working just as hard and risking failure who never make it.  Good fortune is the secret, but fame and wealth gets to people and their egos start telling them how great they are and how they are more deserving etc etc.   For most people they can't stand the thought that success and failure are down to cosmic randomness with no apparent logic guiding the process.  They prefer to believe they control their destinies regardless of how much evidence their is to the contrary.

If you actually believe ridiculous new age cliches like " luck equals preparation plus opportunity." you have no concept of what luck actually is. But if believing in ridiculous slogans helps you get through the day, then so be it.

Cosmic randomness is your new age excuse for relative failure in your life or that off someone else.

And, you make the grave mistake of following the liberal pap that simply working hard should equal success. You can work hard, doing things wrong; or you can work hard, succeed initially, but screw up later, and negate their previous success.

It sounds to me as if you're using "cosmic randomness" as an excuse to fail and justification for envious people to stew in covetousness.

Carrey isn't claiming he's successful, simply because he's rich. He's doing what he loves to do; the fact he makes millions doing such makes it sweeter. The same can be said of the guy to whom I'm listening on radio right now, who has the number one talk show on the airwaves.
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Jim Carrey: "Why You Shouldn't Fear Failure" on: July 24, 2014, 09:00:20 AM
People in privileged positions always believe they did something special to earn such good fortune. It makes them feel better to think they are smarter, harder working, better looking etc etc. It would be way too much of a blow to their ego to acknowledge in the Universal lottery of organised chaos they just got lucky.

The flip side is people who are envious of those in privileged positions like to think that the objects of their disdain just got lucky. It soothes their ego and excuses their relative lack of accomplishment.

Or as they say, luck equals preparation plus opportunity.
21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 2014 Olympia - Dexter Jackson Top Five! on: July 24, 2014, 07:50:34 AM
True but what I'm saying is Dex already won the Olympia and will most likely never win it again. So why not drop some weight and win it in a diff/Division and be the first(I believe)to do this...After winning the Olympia, anything other than winning or at worst runner up will be looked at in history as a failure...

I beg to differ. As long as he can hang in the elite class, that's where he should compete. Obviously, Dex can do that, as he is still in the top 5 at the O and he won the Arnold last year. The 212s are loaded with guys he's clobbered or can easily clobber, anyway.

Plus, Dex wouldn't be the first to win the lighter class and the actual Olympia outright. That would be Franco Columbu, who won the under-200-lb class several times. In 1976, he did it again and bested over-200-lb class winner, Ken Waller, to win the overall Mr. Olympia title.

Furthermore, Frank Zane has done that three times, winning his class and beating the over-200-lb winners (Mentzer and Robinson, twice) for the whole ball of wax.
22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: why cant anybody anymore in todays times develop an 80s body on: July 23, 2014, 02:58:20 PM
From average juicers to usa competitors..no one will ever look like shawn ray, dennis newman, bob paris..etc etc...everyone's bodies in todays time look so un proportional,  no one has a small waist..no one tries to develop a thick muscular chest..no1 has any sort of discipline for creating simmetry...who wouldnt want to look like shawn ray or dennis newman..you would bang every girl and demand so much respect..

Does the ifbb have this kind of influence in the regression of exercise training..based on their current love for mass..im certain everyone in the 80s wanted to join the Arnold club

Ummmm.....NO! You wouldn't bang every girl and demand so much respect. Back in high school, I'd be reading FLEX or Muscle & Fitness and someone would see pics of guys like Ray or Paris and it's the usual "Eww!!! That's gross!!" or "He's too big! That's nasty!"

It's pretty much the same now as it was 25 years ago.
23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: why cant anybody anymore in todays times develop an 80s body on: July 23, 2014, 01:03:36 PM
because we got concerned with the scale weight.

how many guys were under 220 in the 80's? MOST of them.

how many guys focused more on chest, abs, and arms before dorian? most of them.

we figured out that we had to force feed ourselves to get as heavy as possible.. and if you wanted that scale weight to increase, you had to put muscle on the largest areas, meaning legs and back. which meant focusing more on movements that brought into play more muscles everywhere.

who had a big, wide, thick back back in the 80's who didn't also have a bigger than average waist?

who had big, dense, thick legs back in the 80's who didn't also have a thicker torso?

I can't think of anybody.

I can.
BACK:

Mike Christian
Lee Haney
Tony Pearson
Mike Quinn
Brian Buchanan

LEGS:
Eddie Robinson
Tom Platz
Nimrod King
Renel Janvier
24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 2014 Olympia - Dexter Jackson Top Five! on: July 23, 2014, 11:06:08 AM
Because at almost 50 years old adding weight to his body is basically suicide. It's not like he' going to put on weight and win the thing. So dropping weight would be good for his overall health. Plus whats wrong with trying to win the thing in a different class? Has anyone ever won both titles before? That would be more impressive than placing 5th thru 8th...

Winning the 212 is hardly on par with placing top 5 at the actual Olympia. The one guy who tried (David Henry, when it was the 202 class) barely made the top 15.

As for Dex winning the Olympia again, the circumstances would have to be similar to 2008: He's on; the champ is off; and another guy is out, perhaps due to injury.
25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 2014 LA - Cali Muscle - Overall BB Champion on: July 23, 2014, 10:48:55 AM
You are wrong he can still bring up his legs if starts doing some hardcore squats and lunges.

He already does!


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