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1  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 22, 2014, 07:31:34 PM
Let's not forget JBL. Now, he was a yellow-bellied heel if there ever was one.
2  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: 2014 = 2004 on: April 22, 2014, 07:30:45 PM
I don't think Benoit was as over as DB

NOPE! Once Orton beat him for the World title at SummerSlam, Benoit's stock plunged.

In fact, the emphasis went from him on Raw to JBL on Smackdown as far as being the breakout star of 2004 was concerned.
3  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: IC title tournament on: April 22, 2014, 07:28:48 PM
it has probably ben 6 months sinc it was last defended. I remember back in the day the 30 day rule..

I think Big E had a title defense against Del Rio about a month ago. Now, Dean Ambrose and the US title? The last title defense I remember from him was against Mark Henry; but I think that was well over 30 days back.
4  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Anyone got feedback on: glarcina cambogia? on: April 21, 2014, 11:56:46 AM
Another plant gimmick to tap into the billion dollar "magic pill" business.

Cut down the white rice, turkey tails and corned beef and do more cardio . Spend money on more chicken and fish and limit taro, cook banana and breadfruit

It's not really a gimmick. It's been around for over 20 years. Garcinia Cambogia was just sold under its key extract, hydroxycitric acid (HCA). Remember that HCA was a key ingredient in the original Hydroxycut (hence the name). Garcinia Cambogia was also sold under the name Citrimax.

It works, when taken in high enough doses (1000 mg a serving, 2-3 times daily); but, it's no miracle pill. Diet still needs to be decent.
5  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: BREAKING NEWS ULTIMATE WARRIOR DIES AT 54 on: April 21, 2014, 10:42:54 AM

We could also say that he wouldn't have left three times if he wasn't a jerk.

I stand by my claim that both Vince AND Hellwig are/were full of shit... the same way Bret is full of shit, SBG is full of shit, Piper is full of shit, Bruno is full of (a lot of) shit, and so on.

That doesn't minimize their accomplishments in the business. It's only to say that, at at least one point, everybody above was full of shit when saying they would never do business with Vince again.

Dibiase gushed about that on the DVD, "The one thing that's simply amazing about Vince McMahon is his ability to give someone a second chance."
6  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: IC title tournament on: April 21, 2014, 10:34:43 AM
It's not a pure title tournament. It's a #1 contender's tournament, with the winner facing Big E Langston for the title at Extreme Rules.

With the Shield feuding with Evolution, Helmsley will probably force Ambrose to defend the US title then cause some foolishness to have him lose it.
7  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: BREAKING NEWS ULTIMATE WARRIOR DIES AT 54 on: April 20, 2014, 06:49:46 PM
Two years ago, he was a piece of shit according to WWE.
Two years ago, he and Hogan were sworn enemies.
Two years ago, he would never have anything to do with the "evil Titan Empire."

Then, he signed on the dotted line once again and everything's okay.
Now he's dead, and they glorify him even more!

I don't fault Jim or the Fed for making a mutually beneficial business deal. In fact, I respect UW for setting aside his stubbornness for the sake of his family.
But, this is a perfect example of how phony and full of shit all of these guys are.

Warrior claimed that WWE wanted to put him in hall in 2010, at WrestleMania 26, which happened in Phoenix (Warrior's home).

Warrior said "No", because he was still miffed about the "Self-Destruction.." DVD. He said WWE had to "tell the right story" and that WWE wouldn't have brought him in three times, if he were the jerk that DVD said he was (Vince said he forgave Helwig for SummerSlam '91 and rehired him in '92; He brought him back in '96 because "it was the right thing to do for our audience; he still had some juice, still had 'it' in terms of charisma, still could sell tickets".)
8  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 20, 2014, 06:44:14 PM
Honky Tonk Man was a great heel because he was annoying as hell and you just wanted to see him get the shit pounded out of him.  He was such a coward that you knew even your blind grandma could probably get an easy 2 count on him, probably even win.

EXACTLY!! And Fandango fits that same mold. You want to see him get beat up in the worst way. But, somehow he manages to win. He's a certified jerk, with the right mix of athleticism and cowardice.

Greatest heel now in wrestling is Vince himself because he constantly pissed me off with how fast he can ruin an angle or fuck someone over with their push.

Ryback and Swagger can attest to that.
9  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Anyone listening to Stone Cold Steve Austin's podcast? on: April 19, 2014, 11:26:44 PM
He is having Taker on in a few weeks...this should be the show of shows...

I heard one he did with Big Show about a month ago (via YouTube). They had much respect for him. Both of them said it would be a travesty if the Undertaker's streak got broken. Austin even claimed McMahon couldn't scratch a big enough of a check to have him beat 'Taker at WrestleMania.

Big Show concurred.
10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: You're not convinced modern liberalism is an illness? on: April 15, 2014, 06:53:02 PM
Why do white people now feel inadequate for being white?  Huh

White people, by and large, don't. Mush-brained white liberal Democrats, feeling they must atone for their past racism (while exhibiting, at times, present racism), do.
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath getting destroyed by random gym rat on: April 15, 2014, 06:50:13 PM


And how many Sandows does random gym rat have again?
12  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 15, 2014, 03:12:48 PM
Fandango is the wrestling equivalent of a one hit wonder.

Flair talked about women, money and being a champion.

What can Fandango talk about?

Why does he have to be compared to Flair? I'm not even talking about him being a world champion at any point.

We need more jerks and folks that Jake referred to as chicken@^&# as heels. Fandango fits the bill.

He's a lot like Honky or Ravishing Rick, a certifiable jerk. You enjoy watching him get beat up; but (at times) somehow he ends up winning and it irks you BIG TIME.
13  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 15, 2014, 11:29:14 AM
Agreed on the job waste... if you are doing the job at WM for an undercard, then something good should come of it.

I get what you're saying. Initially, I didn't like Fandango either. But the guy grows on you.

He's corny; he's goofy. The (bizarro-world) NY fans were cheering for him on Raw, even after Jericho beat the crap out of him during his match with Kingston.
14  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 15, 2014, 11:22:51 AM
Totally worse than THTM...


I think the dancing thing is just the issue... Just be a chickenshit heel and go to it... Don't need any of that stupid crap.

He can't even dance really... it's just silly.

The dancing is what makes up his chicken heel persona. They wasted Jericho's jobbing to him at WrestleMania.


15  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 15, 2014, 11:19:18 AM
Because his gimmick is quite possibly the worst gimmick EVER.

Oh. My. God.

Just horrendous.

Any worse than the Honky Tonk Man (the GREATEST INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPION OF ALL TIME!!)??

That's my point! There are BEAST-Super-Destroyer heels (like Lesnar).

There are creepy heels like Wyatt.

And, there are cornball chicken#^#& heels (as Jake called them) like Fandango, complete with "New Generation"-style" pyro.

WWE can use them all.
16  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 15, 2014, 11:08:24 AM
On his latest Podcast, Jim Ross asked Jake this question.

Jake said it's because the guys today all wanna be badasses when they need to be more chicken sh!t. Nobody likes a coward.

Now, that's a first class wrestling mind.

And they had the perfect heel to do that last year........FAAAAAAAN-DAAAAAAAN-GOOOOOO!!!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBwrMF-PlM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBwrMF-PlM</a>

What was the point of having him beat Jericho at WrestleMania last year, if they weren't going to use him? Heck, the NY fans practically GIFT-WRAPPED him as a major heel the night after 'Mania. And WWE blew it.

Maybe they're trying to push him again by dropping Summer Rae and giving him Layla as his manager.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poqID6WThHM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poqID6WThHM</a>
17  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jeff Jarrett Officially Announces Global Force Wrestling Promotion: on: April 15, 2014, 10:58:03 AM
It will be interesting to see who the talent is.

Between his Fed and Triple A coming to America.....AJ Styles should land somewhere but who are some of the other "hot free agents" out there....

If Jeff is smart, he does not become an on air performer/wrestler...I think this is what tarnished TNA in the early yrs..

Shouldn't this be the "Double J"-F?
18  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 15, 2014, 10:57:27 AM
Heck they give every other recovering addict a 2nd,3rd and 4th chance.

Regal, Orton, Umaga, Eddie.....and the list goes on

Don't forget Mysterio. How many times did Del Rio have to "break" Rey's arm, because Rey got popped?
19  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jack Swagger Blues, Afroman-Style!! on: April 15, 2014, 10:55:09 AM

Funny.

But, out of every tag team that splits one climbs to the top and the other is left behind
.


True. But usually the team is introduced together and viewed on equal footing. The "Real American/Tea Party" gimmick was custom-made for Swagger and he got a major push, especially when they added Zeb Coulter as his manager to take care of the promos.

He beats Orton to win the Chamber and get a shot at Del Rio's World Title at WrestleMania. And, he kept beating Orton, left and right, last year. But, after his DUI weed thing, he doesn't get the World title and ends up in a tag team with Antonio Cesaro (a guy from Switzerland), who ends up stealing his heat.

That's why I agree with other folks who say WWE has been lousy at making heels, which has been a problem for years.

I mean, to complain about "Super" Cena always getting over, then get bent out of shape when a heel Sheamus beats him clean for the WWE title.....some folks just aren't happy about anything.

Besides Wyatt, who are the new breed of heels (and at the rate WWE is going, they may turn him face, the way they did the Shield)? You can't even use Lesnar, Mr. Part-Timer (and I'm still steamed over letting him break Undertaker's streak).

20  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 14, 2014, 10:09:42 PM
It's also because every time a good heel develops, WWE either turns them face or buries them.

Sheamus, Miz, Swagger, Del Rio are all great heel material. But, WWE continues to squander their talent. That's why we keep getting stuck with Orton and Helmsley all over again.

They really wasted Swagger in my view. Yes, I know about the DUI/weed thing (see my Swagger blues thread). But, how many times has Orton been popped but ended up World champ?

Heck, a year ago, Orton couldn't beat Swagger to save his life. Now, a Orton-Swagger match would be considered a joke.
21  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Sting signs with WWE on: April 14, 2014, 08:09:02 AM
He's 55 years old, right? It's a good thing his gimmick allows him to wear face paint because he must look old as fuck these days.

So, he's about a year older than Warrior, who just died less than a week ago.

And in what shape is he?

It seems the buzz about him is simply that he's the last of the proverbial Mohicans (i.e. WCW stars to cross to the dark side).
22  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Advice on creatine on: April 13, 2014, 05:30:57 PM

Bill Phillips likened the creatine and HMB combo to Deca.

 Grin

If you load with creatine for the first time, you might think it's that way, too.

Put on 7 lbs in a week (as I did back in 1996) and you'll swear before God and four more white people you'll never touch a syringe.
23  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jeff Jarrett Officially Announces Global Force Wrestling Promotion: on: April 13, 2014, 12:32:21 PM
You think we'll ever see this guy again?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxKSM1tLGwY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxKSM1tLGwY</a>

One of the "New Generation" gimmicks I actually liked (especially for a heel).

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp4M0dUhbJk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp4M0dUhbJk</a>
24  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: DDP = Miracle Worker on: April 13, 2014, 12:26:54 PM
He looked healthy but Razor's voice was absolutely shot; Roberts sounded raspy, too.

All the documented problems with Jake and Razor....yet's it's Warrior who ends up dead.

Strange stuff, to say the least!!!
25  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jack Swagger Blues, Afroman-Style!! on: April 13, 2014, 12:23:27 PM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYsTmIzjkw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYsTmIzjkw</a>
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