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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: You're not convinced modern liberalism is an illness? on: April 15, 2014, 06:53:02 PM
Why do white people now feel inadequate for being white?  Huh

White people, by and large, don't. Mush-brained white liberal Democrats, feeling they must atone for their past racism (while exhibiting, at times, present racism), do.
2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath getting destroyed by random gym rat on: April 15, 2014, 06:50:13 PM


And how many Sandows does random gym rat have again?
3  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 15, 2014, 03:12:48 PM
Fandango is the wrestling equivalent of a one hit wonder.

Flair talked about women, money and being a champion.

What can Fandango talk about?

Why does he have to be compared to Flair? I'm not even talking about him being a world champion at any point.

We need more jerks and folks that Jake referred to as chicken@^&# as heels. Fandango fits the bill.

He's a lot like Honky or Ravishing Rick, a certifiable jerk. You enjoy watching him get beat up; but (at times) somehow he ends up winning and it irks you BIG TIME.
4  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 15, 2014, 11:29:14 AM
Agreed on the job waste... if you are doing the job at WM for an undercard, then something good should come of it.

I get what you're saying. Initially, I didn't like Fandango either. But the guy grows on you.

He's corny; he's goofy. The (bizarro-world) NY fans were cheering for him on Raw, even after Jericho beat the crap out of him during his match with Kingston.
5  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 15, 2014, 11:22:51 AM
Totally worse than THTM...


I think the dancing thing is just the issue... Just be a chickenshit heel and go to it... Don't need any of that stupid crap.

He can't even dance really... it's just silly.

The dancing is what makes up his chicken heel persona. They wasted Jericho's jobbing to him at WrestleMania.


6  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 15, 2014, 11:19:18 AM
Because his gimmick is quite possibly the worst gimmick EVER.

Oh. My. God.

Just horrendous.

Any worse than the Honky Tonk Man (the GREATEST INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPION OF ALL TIME!!)??

That's my point! There are BEAST-Super-Destroyer heels (like Lesnar).

There are creepy heels like Wyatt.

And, there are cornball chicken#^#& heels (as Jake called them) like Fandango, complete with "New Generation"-style" pyro.

WWE can use them all.
7  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 15, 2014, 11:08:24 AM
On his latest Podcast, Jim Ross asked Jake this question.

Jake said it's because the guys today all wanna be badasses when they need to be more chicken sh!t. Nobody likes a coward.

Now, that's a first class wrestling mind.

And they had the perfect heel to do that last year........FAAAAAAAN-DAAAAAAAN-GOOOOOO!!!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBwrMF-PlM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBwrMF-PlM</a>

What was the point of having him beat Jericho at WrestleMania last year, if they weren't going to use him? Heck, the NY fans practically GIFT-WRAPPED him as a major heel the night after 'Mania. And WWE blew it.

Maybe they're trying to push him again by dropping Summer Rae and giving him Layla as his manager.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poqID6WThHM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poqID6WThHM</a>
8  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jeff Jarrett Officially Announces Global Force Wrestling Promotion: on: April 15, 2014, 10:58:03 AM
It will be interesting to see who the talent is.

Between his Fed and Triple A coming to America.....AJ Styles should land somewhere but who are some of the other "hot free agents" out there....

If Jeff is smart, he does not become an on air performer/wrestler...I think this is what tarnished TNA in the early yrs..

Shouldn't this be the "Double J"-F?
9  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 15, 2014, 10:57:27 AM
Heck they give every other recovering addict a 2nd,3rd and 4th chance.

Regal, Orton, Umaga, Eddie.....and the list goes on

Don't forget Mysterio. How many times did Del Rio have to "break" Rey's arm, because Rey got popped?
10  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jack Swagger Blues, Afroman-Style!! on: April 15, 2014, 10:55:09 AM

Funny.

But, out of every tag team that splits one climbs to the top and the other is left behind
.


True. But usually the team is introduced together and viewed on equal footing. The "Real American/Tea Party" gimmick was custom-made for Swagger and he got a major push, especially when they added Zeb Coulter as his manager to take care of the promos.

He beats Orton to win the Chamber and get a shot at Del Rio's World Title at WrestleMania. And, he kept beating Orton, left and right, last year. But, after his DUI weed thing, he doesn't get the World title and ends up in a tag team with Antonio Cesaro (a guy from Switzerland), who ends up stealing his heat.

That's why I agree with other folks who say WWE has been lousy at making heels, which has been a problem for years.

I mean, to complain about "Super" Cena always getting over, then get bent out of shape when a heel Sheamus beats him clean for the WWE title.....some folks just aren't happy about anything.

Besides Wyatt, who are the new breed of heels (and at the rate WWE is going, they may turn him face, the way they did the Shield)? You can't even use Lesnar, Mr. Part-Timer (and I'm still steamed over letting him break Undertaker's streak).

11  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jake Roberts on why there are so few good heels... on: April 14, 2014, 10:09:42 PM
It's also because every time a good heel develops, WWE either turns them face or buries them.

Sheamus, Miz, Swagger, Del Rio are all great heel material. But, WWE continues to squander their talent. That's why we keep getting stuck with Orton and Helmsley all over again.

They really wasted Swagger in my view. Yes, I know about the DUI/weed thing (see my Swagger blues thread). But, how many times has Orton been popped but ended up World champ?

Heck, a year ago, Orton couldn't beat Swagger to save his life. Now, a Orton-Swagger match would be considered a joke.
12  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Sting signs with WWE on: April 14, 2014, 08:09:02 AM
He's 55 years old, right? It's a good thing his gimmick allows him to wear face paint because he must look old as fuck these days.

So, he's about a year older than Warrior, who just died less than a week ago.

And in what shape is he?

It seems the buzz about him is simply that he's the last of the proverbial Mohicans (i.e. WCW stars to cross to the dark side).
13  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Advice on creatine on: April 13, 2014, 05:30:57 PM

Bill Phillips likened the creatine and HMB combo to Deca.

 Grin

If you load with creatine for the first time, you might think it's that way, too.

Put on 7 lbs in a week (as I did back in 1996) and you'll swear before God and four more white people you'll never touch a syringe.
14  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jeff Jarrett Officially Announces Global Force Wrestling Promotion: on: April 13, 2014, 12:32:21 PM
You think we'll ever see this guy again?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxKSM1tLGwY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxKSM1tLGwY</a>

One of the "New Generation" gimmicks I actually liked (especially for a heel).

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp4M0dUhbJk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp4M0dUhbJk</a>
15  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: DDP = Miracle Worker on: April 13, 2014, 12:26:54 PM
He looked healthy but Razor's voice was absolutely shot; Roberts sounded raspy, too.

All the documented problems with Jake and Razor....yet's it's Warrior who ends up dead.

Strange stuff, to say the least!!!
16  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Jack Swagger Blues, Afroman-Style!! on: April 13, 2014, 12:23:27 PM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYsTmIzjkw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYsTmIzjkw</a>
17  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Jack Swagger Blues, Afroman-Style!! on: April 12, 2014, 07:53:18 PM
I was going to be World champ, before I got high;

I got the Authority's stamp, before I got high;

Now, Cesaro done ganked my gimmick, and I know why.....

Hey, Hey!!

BECAUSE I GOT HIGH! BECAUSE I GOT HIGH! BECAUSE I GOT HIGH!!

Instrumental:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnuYx7sh308" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnuYx7sh308</a>
18  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Wyatt's over big time on: April 12, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
That's just Helmsley's attempt to try to get Fandango over with the crowd again. Ain't happening. That gimmick is shit. The only thing good about it is that hot piece of ass he brings out to the ring with him.

He fucked up in a match with Golddust a few weeks ago on Raw. legit cracked a couple of Golddusts' ribs with a failed knee drop. You can see how bad in pain and how pissed he was when the match was over.


Well, the fans were "fandango-ing" on Raw as they were last year after WrestleMania.

Maybe that can be built into an IC title run, or a US title (Ambrose isn't doing jack with it!).

Now he has a new manager/valet in Layla.

And is it my imagination or was Fandango's old finisher nearly identical to Wyatt's "Sister Abigail's Kiss" move? (5:30)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBwrMF-PlM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBwrMF-PlM</a>
19  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Advice on creatine on: April 11, 2014, 09:00:22 PM
Thanks for the advice guys!

GNC is marking down it's creatine (the flavored kind) for clearance. Get that, some cheap ALA (also from GNC) and some Gatorade and.... VOILA!!! CELL-TECH for months for $10, give or take a couple dollars.
20  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: The Gospel of Jesus' Wife on: April 11, 2014, 12:09:26 PM
From many times in our history, the enjoyment of sex has been viewed as vile. Only necessary for the continuation. And let's not touch on female sexuality. Or the fact that Mary M was supposedly a hooker.
Hey-sus was like Tupac or Biggie. Sure there were probably many others that went by that name. But only this Jesus was G'd Up.

The Mary Mags hooker thing comes from the Catholic traditional teaching that cites her as the woman caught in adultery, whom Jesus saved from being stoned to death.  That may not necessarily be the case, their being one and the same.
21  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: The Gospel of Jesus' Wife on: April 11, 2014, 11:30:44 AM
Because sex is viewed as vile, rift with sin...Mankind has always had a problem with it's own sexuality. Jesus was supposed to be "pure", "perfect". Absolved of all sin. And the mental imagine of him putting the Hebrew hammer down (like a hammer on a block...) on Mary M, is too much for many Christians to think about. If Christ was having sex (and enjoying it), it blows many things out of the water when it comes to modesty, sex, etc...


Sex isn't viewed as vile, in and of itself. Sex, outside of marriage, is a different matter.
22  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: The Gospel of Jesus' Wife on: April 11, 2014, 11:09:01 AM
This arguement baffles me honestly. Why is it so offensive to Christians that Jesus might be married? Wouldn't it be wierd to be 30 and NOT married at that time? Like accused of being gay and stoned to death for not being married? Hopefully someone can exain why, if he was married, it so show changes their beliefs.

My guess is that it's seen as an assault on Jesus' divinity (and authority).

Jesus stated that His kingdom is not of this world. So why would He need a wife?

Plus, at His crucifixion, He appears more concerned with the care of His mother (assigning such to John), which is more in line with a single man than a married one.
23  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Warrior and Attitude Era on: April 11, 2014, 10:34:26 AM
Good question.
In my estimation, I would say no; simply because every member of the WWF roster made adjustments to their work during the "Attitude" transition. Hellwig, however, refused to ever evolve his character and/or as a performer.

I suspect that the above fact, coupled with his stubbornness and lack of professionalism, would have quickly relegated him to an expendable asset in the Fed. I honestly believe that he eventually would have wound up in WCW in the exact role and capacity he did in '98.

Prick.

Again, that's assuming there even would have been an Attitude era. Warrior was part of the mass exodus of the a Hogan-era/New Generation guys. The lawsuit over the rights to the Warrior name is probably why he didn't go to WCW sooner. And Bischoff didn't have Warrior alter his character much when he arrived in '98.

If McMahon could have built more "New Generation" guys off a Warrior and still competed with WCW, I don't think he goes the 'Attitude' route.
24  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Warrior and Attitude Era on: April 11, 2014, 10:17:47 AM
It was very harsh and unfair I think. Sure he did some shitty things like holding WWF to ransom for half a million and thinking it was a one man show but he also did some positive things. He did get over big time - he was arguably the biggest star of the 80's/early 90's wrestling boom after Hogan and Macho Man. Those three entered mainstream popular culture - most newspapers worldwide have commented on Warriors death in the last few days.

For WWE to release a DVD burying him completely, which they have never done to anybody else, at a stage when he was gone from the business for years, was wrong. Many have done far worse to WWF and Vince personally but never got that treatment.

The three guys that gored him the most were "Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase, Bobby "The Brain" Heenan, and Bruce Prichard (aka "Brother Love"). Dibiase was the only one I saw at the HOF ceremony (Warrior acknowledged him by name and gave him props).

To be somewhat fair, Warrior had been bashing WWE and certain wrestlers there for years on the web. I guess WWE felt it was payback time.
25  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Warrior and Attitude Era on: April 11, 2014, 10:11:11 AM

The feuds, yes. Their build-ups lasted for months - some of them even close to year. But, once they had their big match...POOF!! It was all over. There was never any "part 2."
Think Piper, Bundy, Killer Kahn, One Man Gang, and the guys you mentioned above; with the exception of Andre, Hogan seldom worked another program with any of them. That's why the Hogan character wore out. After he did his paradigmatic mow-down, they had to bring in someone new to feed him, or at least build up someone to pose a threat.
The act got tired, fans saw through it, and that's why Hogan tanked in WCW until they re-invented his character.

Part of the reason it go tired was Hogan's ever-shrinking physique at the time. You can't pull off the superhero gig with Hogan looking like (relatively speaking) a crackhead.
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