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12751  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Pornography is good for a free society on: July 17, 2008, 06:39:26 AM
Doc, what do you think the "age of consent" should be?  Do you agree that it should be a law?


Whatever the age of consent is, the porn industry is going to push the envelope (if not break it altogether). A prime example is the barely-legal stuff that get heavily marketed (i.e using girls who just turned 18). An off-shoot of that is what some call "virtual child pornography" That is, getting 18-year old girls to dress and act like 12-13 year-old girls.

You may recall that on the first season of "American Idol", one of the contestants, Frenchie Davis, got booted for posing nude on a site called "Daddy's Little Girls". The guy who ran the site was under suspicion of running child porn. And Davis was posing as an underage girl, even though she was 20, when she took the photos.

12752  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Bahahaha !!! on: July 17, 2008, 05:08:47 AM
And you can bet money if Christians in the Middle Ages had access to the modern technology that Stalin did, they would have killed many, many more people.

Based on what? The armed forces of today have FAR more sophisticated weapons and technology than those of the 1800s did. Yet, FAR more people died in the Civil war than have died in the war in Iraq.

Plus, the Crusades lasted FAR longer than Stalin's regime did. It's not a question of technology but of ruthlessness.


But you are right about the other thing; communism is just another religion.

Atheism is simply a lack of belief in a supernatural power; it does not involve worship of any kind.

There is no worship of any supernatural being. Instead the worship gets deferred to a natural being (man), as he deems himself the highest sentient being in existence and (as a result) the final authority.

12753  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Bahahaha !!! on: July 16, 2008, 01:15:27 PM
While Stalin was an atheist, he didn't do it to uphold an atheistic view, he did to to retain power. Not even remotely the same scenario. He also fought Nazi Germany in WW2... and was a big reason why they were defeated... So if you're going to give him the bad, you have to give him the good as well.

Wink




Some months ago, a few non-believers took offense, when I suggested that atheism, at its roots, is simply man worshipping himself. But, after a review of Stalin and the other cats that Beach Bum mentioned, my claim stands.

Stalin didn't want the folks worshipping God. He wanted them to worship the government. Of course, since he ran the government......

As one saying goes, "Stalin killed more in one year than the Crusaders did in a decade" (paraphrase).
12754  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bob-servations - by Bob Chick on: July 16, 2008, 12:56:37 PM
"26 The worst bodybuilders make the best gurus, and vice versa. "

Can you say, "Dan Duchaine"?

I knew that you could!!!
12755  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk / Re: You pretty much know genetically where you are after the first few years.... on: July 16, 2008, 12:51:38 PM
True, but for many this is not that key. Not reffering to top bodybuilders where muscle bellies etc really matter.

For 99% of the population they can make fantastic gains if they buckle down. People piss and moan about not being cut, well do 2 hours cardio a day everyday for 6 months, diet and never cheat - most people will cut up. Same applies for many things in fitness/bb. Thing is most won't do that. They toss out some half ass effort then scream their genetics are bad.

How does that Ronnie Coleman saying go again?

Unless you've maxed out - it's an excuse.
After a few years with consistent food, rest and right training you can appreciate your limits - but few are capable of doing most things to a t... so many times
"...I think I've reached my limits" is not truthful.


Back in college (1996), I wasn't sure if I could even reach 200 lbs, as I had been stuck at 189. But, I dug up the old issues of MuscleMag, went over the articles about bulking up and gaining mass, and put it to work. Three months later, I ended up at 210 lbs.

There are other things that, at one point, I didn't think I had the genetics to do (or couldn't do without going the way of the syringe).

- Bench press over 400 lbs
- Squat over 500 lbs
- Build 18" arms

Well, despite my ectomorphic genes, I've achieved all of these goals (steroid-free, I might add).

12756  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bob-servations - by Bob Chick on: July 16, 2008, 12:37:44 PM
people would rather rip on tom than actually look at the situation.

1) tom said if he kept training heavy and eating like a bodybuilder he'd never get under 230.

2) tom hits 175 after various medical maladies stopped him from training and eating almost entirely.

but everyone thinks it's more fun to say he claimed he couldn't get under 230 period and then tear into him. Roll Eyes

Agreed!!!

And given the caption under which this pic of Prince was place, the implication is the tired old "all drugs" spiel, as if cessation of anabolics use is the sole reason for his severe loss of size.
12757  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bob-servations - by Bob Chick on: July 16, 2008, 12:23:59 PM
If the shoe fits

Unfortunately, for your take, it doesn't.

I don't have to be Tom Prince to state the rather simple conclusion that messed-up internal organ and totally-shot shoulders are SIGNIFICANT factors as to why Prince is much smaller than he once was.

12758  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bob-servations - by Bob Chick on: July 16, 2008, 11:12:07 AM
Hi Tom.

Now, there's an original response!!  Roll Eyes
12759  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bob-servations - by Bob Chick on: July 16, 2008, 10:42:01 AM
"23 Drugs don't build better genetics. "



Of course, there's the little matter that he doesn't eat as much as he once did, his kidneys are bad, and at least one of his shoulders has no cartilage (meaning he can't lift superheavy anymore).

That might have something to do with why Tom Prince no longer possess the super size he once did.
12760  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Chris faildo's conditioning on: July 16, 2008, 10:34:31 AM
Actually hjalf of it is cooking chicken and half of it is working out.

BB DVDs are the most boring shit on earth.

Buy some whey protein from the money and spend the time in the gym that you would throw away watching it.



Wait a second!!!

That means that you have watched bodybuilding DVDs, which (by your standards) means.....you're gay.



12761  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: why does god give great genetics to so very few individuals on: July 16, 2008, 10:24:32 AM
this is a bodybuilding board who cares about genetics for sumo wrestling?

GET WITH THE PROGRAM SPORT


Ummm......this particular board is a religious debates board, Bluto.

Of course, you could have gone to another board to blubber about Ronnie Coleman's genetics (to be immediately followed by yet another Dorian Yates praise-fest).



12762  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Chris faildo's conditioning on: July 16, 2008, 08:43:41 AM
I don't read the magazines, i don't watch the DVDs. i post here for pure fun and info on training and nutrition.

I don't give a fuck about any pro BB or any contest, i just love to train.   

And all of this info on training and nutrition appears, without photos?

You have us believe that you have NEVER, EVER:

- Viewed a bodybuilding magazine
- Seen a bodybuilding contest (either in person, via telecast, or by DVD/videotape), or
- Seen any bodybuilding pics on this or any other site.

And, you've kept yourself from doing so, lest someone think you're a homo.
12763  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Chris faildo's conditioning on: July 16, 2008, 08:33:14 AM
First: Since when does DOING BB require competing? I can build my body, but do i have to show it off on stage to a gay audience? No.

Second: Where did i say that the guys on stage are gay? Nowhere. The guys WATCHING are gay.

Says who, especially given the number of less-than-moderately-dressed women, accompanying some of the men in the audience?


DOING BB: great.

Watching BB: great as well, if you are gay.


Hope this helps.

The problem is that YOU watch bodybuilding, either by reading a magazine, observing a contest (via DVD, VHS videotape, or telecast), or viewing pics on the web. That is, unless you are under the impression that your computer monitor/TV set somehow filters the "gay" away.

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12764  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Chris faildo's conditioning on: July 16, 2008, 08:21:18 AM
Yes, keep fooling yourself that you aren't gay, next time you stand in front of a stage and look at half naked guys dancing or phantasizing about Jason Cutler's big biceps...


DOING bodybuilding: yes all the way

Watching bodybuilding: gay as a finnish summer day is long.

Hope this helps, my friend.

Doing bodybuilding involves competing. That means that, if you're doing bodybuilding, you are JUST AS GAY as you claim EwaBeachBoy is.

12765  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk / Re: Q&A with IFBB Pro Chris Faildo on: July 16, 2008, 08:05:58 AM
That is correct.  I also use Arginine, lysine caps before and after workouts. 

With regards to the weight gainer question, have you considered using them or do you think they're more harm than good for your physique (when I used weight gainers, N-Large2 was my favorite; IsoMass Xtreme Gainer looks to be a nice one, too)?
12766  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk / Re: Q&A with IFBB Pro Milos Sarcev on: July 16, 2008, 07:55:54 AM



2) Regarding my cheap version of the shake:

- 2 fl. oz liquid aminos (Vitamin Shoppe),
- 5-6 grams creatine with dextrose (Body Fortress or CELL-TECH)
- 5 grams glutamine (Vitamin Shoppe)

Any suggestions about improvement?


Add some Arginin for more bloodflow to the muscles.

Body Fortress Creatine has Arginine in it, as well.

But, that still leaves out Question 1, which I asked Milos: Whether the workout shakes he recommended are as effective with traditional training, as opposed to doing giant sets, as he did with Silvio Samuel, Luke Wood, and Hidetada Yamagishi.

12767  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Christian Music Videos on: July 15, 2008, 03:52:33 PM
Dietrick Hadden - "Sinner's Prayer"

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB_LLRuHVp8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB_LLRuHVp8</a>

You are on a roll, Colossus.

I have his performing this song from a Christian TV show on videotape.

12768  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Beta Alanine on: July 15, 2008, 03:44:51 PM
i got it when lifting..my ears got all itchy...so itchy I went into the bathroom and dunked my head in the sink..got better after about 10 minutes.  I read the warning,,but had no clue what to expect...

I got that a similar feeling, when I used ThermoShred. I never checked to see if Beta Alanine was in it.

It felt as if someone kept beating me in the head with a cactus.

12769  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: World Natural Bodybuilding Federation pros on: July 15, 2008, 03:37:49 PM
great legs.  Roll Eyes

Maybe it's his head. It looks too big for the rest of his body.
12770  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: World Natural Bodybuilding Federation pros on: July 15, 2008, 03:23:09 PM





I knew I recognized that guy. That's Rodney Helaire, who's featured in MuscleTech ads in "Natural Bodybuilding" magazine and in some men's magazines like Men's Fitness.
12771  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: World Natural Bodybuilding Federation pros on: July 15, 2008, 03:19:18 PM
natural bbing, at least in a competitive sense, is a joke

people who use steroids even once give up their 'natural' claim in my eyes - being 'clean' is nowhere near the same as 'natural'

Then you would fit right in with the guys from the ANBC. The WNBF has a 7-year drug-free policy.

12772  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk / Re: Q&A with IFBB Pro Chris Faildo on: July 15, 2008, 03:12:33 PM
I'm surprised that you did not get one of my DVD's, it shows it all.  Anyway, yes I use MRP's, waxy maize, nitric oxide, water and green tea-that's all the liquids I use everyday.
This is very important in my nutritional plan.  I use these product everyday at different times.

I mentioned in another thread that I have not seen your DVD, which is why I asked that question. Do you think that using a weight gainer instead of an MRP would help (i.e. IsoMass Xtreme Gainer) or do you find that such products do your physique more harm than good?

I must have great genetics.  The only product that i use to enhance my testosterone is Tribestan.  That is bought OTC.  I use a tons of supps but you only wanted to know the ones that boost my test.  Well thats it!  I hope this helps.

That's primarily a Tribulus Terrestris supplement, isn't it?

12773  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Chris faildo's conditioning on: July 15, 2008, 01:58:09 PM
supplements are a multi-billion dollar industry.  90% of supplements are worthless.  just think what could be accomplished if that money was spent on something useful.   on a personal level, rather than spending a few hundred dollars a  month at bbing.com, pay for a better gym, take a class in nutrition, buy better food, maybe even buy a few sessions from a (real) personal trainer.

Where did you get the idea that taking Faildo's advice on getting ripped, without using drugs, translates into bleeding your wallet dry on supplements?

I wasn't really talking about supplements, which are indeed worthless IF you don't have the basics down (as you mentioned: the food, the training, etc.).

If you do, on the other hand, supplements are of great benefit. Nowhere is it mentioned that Faildo's advice for getting sliced rest SOLELY on the procurement of supplements. I haven't seen his DVD. But, I'll go out on a limb and say that he mentions a thing or two about diet and proper nutrition. Same would go for training.

12774  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Chris faildo's conditioning on: July 15, 2008, 01:50:13 PM
haha ok duh duh duh dearth......you're argument has no logical merit.  So if a guy eats asparagus, chicken breasts, and white rice 6-8 times a day, does cardio 7 days a week, for 365 days a year you're saying they could look like Chris.  The fact that Chris' "natural" physique rivals the top 1% of drug using bodybuilders in the last 50 years is simply because he's more dedicated and disciplined than any other pro bodybuilder  Roll Eyes  I just gave the guy props for his dedication and discipline and felt some have come down too hard on him but then goofballs like you come on here and say this shit and it's like here we go all over again.  LOL.  So beating the dead horse goes on..........LMAO!  You know nothing about physiology if you think Chris' condition can be achieved with cardio and strict diet.  Again why don't you and your ilk answer the question that if it was so simple to achieve Chris' look why don't all the pros use prohormones.  I mean if they could achieve their contest prep through prohormones and the legal route don't you think they would?  Come on.....get outta here!

There's a difference between "simple" and "easy". Benching 405 lbs is as simple as benching 135.

Again, I referred to the physique of the "Iron Guru", Vince Gironda. He knew how to get shredded, without becoming a walking pharmacy.

With regards to your asking why some folks don't go the legal route, the answer is....the legal route is HARDER (as far as effort and duration go).

Wayne DeMilla put it this way, when asked about testing for diruetics (He was interviewed by IronMan, in response to the claims of an anonymous pro, claiming that bodybuilders spend over $60,000 in drugs and don't really train hard), and this isn't an exact quote.

"In order for me to get ripped without diruetics, I have to drop my carbs, which makes me edgy. I have to use saunas; I have to use wraps. I have to do extra cardio. But, I don't want to do all that, if I can just take a shot".

12775  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Chris faildo's conditioning on: July 15, 2008, 01:04:44 PM
LOL why did this thread get so long, its obvious this guy is a liar we should just leave it at that, sad that some kid though might believe him and end up hurting himself dieting so hard to look like their hero.

jt

Exactly how is some kid going to hurt himself by mimicking Faildo's dieting techniques WITHOUT using the drugs that Faildo is accused of taking?

That makes about as much sense as saying that if "some kid" follows his tips on gaining mass, without steroids, he might end up hurting himself. In actuality, he may actually end up 10-15 lbs. bigger.

If that (more lean muscle mass) is considered hurting yourself, then inflict the pain on me!!!!.
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