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13226  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Don't listen to Anssi Mannimen claims on Muscletech- has a hidden agenda on: March 17, 2008, 12:04:08 PM
MT was full of shit from day one.  They had ads for Acetebolan, creating 6000 and some other crap claiming that you would gain guaranteed 30 pounds in 14 days.  They were cons from the start but for some reason they didn't fizzle.  They must have had deep pockets to keep them afloat.  This company has reinvented itself about 5 times now.

The "other crap" was, at that time, MuscleTech's most popular product: Hydroxycut (with ma huang/ephedra). As for why MuscleTech didn't fizzle, that can be summed up in two products: CELL-TECH and NITRO-TECH.

At first, MuscleTech pushed Hydroxycut and, later, its prohormones (Anotesten and Nortesten) hard and heavy, as did many other companies with their respective fat-burners and prohormones. But, when the ban for ephedra and prohormones (except DHEA) started looming, MuscleTech did a complete 180o turn.

First, they developed an ephedra-free Hydroxycut; but more importantly, MuscleTech shifted nearly ALL of its marketing focus to CELL-TECH and NITRO-TECH. As one poster (who may not be here, anymore) put it, it was a smart move, as (quoting from memory), "It's pretty hard to &%*@ up creatine and whey protein".

All the companies, whose hallmark products were "I can't believe it's not steroids" (andro products) or ma-huang-based fatburners, went belly up. Obviously, MuscleTech did not.
13227  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Don't listen to Anssi Mannimen claims on Muscletech- has a hidden agenda on: March 17, 2008, 11:25:29 AM
Doesn't Blechman own Twin Labs?  If so I can see why he'd want to promote his product and ruin the reps of others.  Doesn't MD whore MHP like crazy?

Steve Blechman and his family once owned TwinLab. He sold his interest to his father and brothers in 2001 taking with him ownership of the magazine. Unless I'm mistaken, things started to unravel shortly after Steve (claiming to be under pressure from his kinfolk) altered the magazine to become All-Natural Muscular Development, featuring only Team Universe guys and other reported natural bodybuilders.

The Blechman clan no longer owns TwinLab. I'm not quite sure about this, but I think it belongs to a company associated with that Tony Robbins guy.

13228  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Don't listen to Anssi Mannimen claims on Muscletech- has a hidden agenda on: March 17, 2008, 11:17:03 AM
Wait, are you guys saying that Aplodan is fake?  Oh snap.  I better return my Jay Cutler Mass Stack that cost me $3000 from GNC.

You should have used the Gold Card. It would have only cost you $2400.  Grin
13229  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama’s Spiritual Adviser Questioned U.S. Role in Spread of HIV, Sept. 11 Attack on: March 17, 2008, 11:09:22 AM
They tried to link Mccain with some guy who made some anti-catholic or anti islamic statements. He is considered Mccains spiritual advisor. I'm not sure if its a tokern kind of thing but this guy is in Ohio and not somebody that Mccain went to every sunday over 20 years. He's from the World harvest church. If this is the same place, then I lived 5 miles from this place. Its massive. The stuff they had on Fox didn't sound even remotely bad. In any event this is an Obama issue and he's done very little to distance himself. i don't even know what u can do. He went over 20 years, and this guy baptized his kids.

The man to whom you're referring is pastor Rod Parsley. Prior to this stuff with McCain, the last political figure with whom Parsley was associated (which brought him under scrutiny) was, I think, a mayor or governor who was backing the state's marriage amendment.
13230  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Don't listen to Anssi Mannimen claims on Muscletech- has a hidden agenda on: March 17, 2008, 10:47:55 AM
A co-worker gave me a copy of this month's MD, with NPC National Champion, Evan Centopani, on the cover. And, I saw MuscleTech ads a-plenty in that one.
13231  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk / Re: Have you met any bodybuilding pros? on: March 15, 2008, 06:00:46 PM
I've met Stan McCrary at the 2005 Southeastern USA. I think he was still with MuscleTech at the time. He was promoting his video and other wares, and I believe his girlfriend was competing in the figure show there. She won her class; but the overall title went to the same girl who won the fitness show (she was the only competitor in that one).

13232  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk / Re: How many of you started lifting thinking you could get big and ripped but th on: March 15, 2008, 05:54:54 PM
The first time I did a ketogenic diet I lost 35 pounds in 2 months.  Years later I tried again and lost maybe 10 lbs.  I went on low carb and massive cardio and lost 70 lbs.  Weak as hell when I started to lift again.  I have found to maintain strength and bodyweight to eat 1600 or so calories during the week and whatever I want 1 or 2 days a week.  Kinda like carb loading but really a calorie load.

That tends to be the case, from what I've experienced. The initial shock to your system shears the pounds right off. I dropped 12 lbs. the first 10 days I went on a low-carb diet.

One thing you can do to keep your strength up is to keep up the creatine intake. It worked well for me, however, initially I was using a creatine product with no carb (V-12). When I ran out of that, all I had left was two large jugs and one small jug of CELL-TECH that I'd bought a few months earlier. After being frustrated with the strength loss, from the low carbs and no creatine, I decide to start using CELL-TECH again.

However, I simply did a balancing act. I cut my carbs from my regular meals, to allow for those contained in one of my favorite supplements.

Give that a try (with either CELL-TECH or whatever your favorite creatine product is) and see if it helps keep that strength up for you.
13233  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk / Re: How many of you started lifting thinking you could get big and ripped but then on: March 15, 2008, 05:32:26 PM
Compared to where I was when I started...sure...but now at 30 my only real goal to get lean and stay that way...can't put on any more muscle..not really anyway, too old, genetics too bad...

Too old? You just turned 30 last month. That is anything but too old.

I reached my biggest and strongest at age 32, tipping the scales at 252 lbs. Now, my goal is to be just as strong, check that, STRONGER than I was then but leaner when I turn 35. Right now, I'm at 230.

There are no monsters in my family, as I come from an ectomorphic bunch. But believe me, when it comes to gaining size, you are anything but washed up at age 30.

13234  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Pre/During/Post Workout on: March 15, 2008, 02:18:39 PM
Or just do what big Ron Coleman does, go eat 2 chicken breasts with some beans, rice and cornbread at the Black Eyed Pea restaurant after you lift. I would bet he doesn't time his specific consumption of those meals either, and he seems to have done okay for himself Cool

He does that about 30 minutes after he finishes his workout (where his food is pre-ordered at that restaurant). However, he does have a post-workout shake immediately after he's done.
13235  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Who Is This Jesus? Is He Risen? on: March 15, 2008, 12:26:06 PM
It's the weekend before Good Friday and Resurrection Sunday (bka Easter). Has anyone had the chance to see "Who Is This Jesus? Is He Risen?"

This is normally when it comes on the air, but I'm not sure if the schedule is still the same since the death of Dr. D. James Kennedy.
13236  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: IS GNC THE BIGGEST RIP OFF STORE EVER? on: March 14, 2008, 10:10:05 AM

Again, all it takes is patience. Wait for the markdowns; use the Gold Card; and clean up!!!

13237  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: What are your favorite supplements? on: March 14, 2008, 10:02:40 AM
I'll list my favorites by category (with the "Honorable Mention" in italics)

Creatine - MuscleTech's CELL-TECH; BodyTech's Crea-Tech Extreme, Gaspari Nutrition's Size-On

Protein Powder - ON's 100% Whey Gold Standard; BodyTech's Whey Tech

RTDs - Nature's Best's  IsoPure (regular and zero carb); IDS' New Whey, ABB's Pure Pro, Mass Recovery, Blue Thunder

Fat Burner - MuscleTech's Hydroxycut Hardcore; Nx-Care's Rev XP, MuscleTech's ThermoShred

NO Product - MuscleTech's Nano Vapor

Carb product - IDS WaxiMaize

Weight Gainer (when I used them) - ProLab's N-Large2; Ultimate Nutrition's Ultimae Whey Gainer

13238  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: weight gainer on: March 14, 2008, 09:49:04 AM
I'm looking for a good weight gainer there are so many out there.  What are the most important things I need to be looking for(IE protein, carbs, calories, sugars, fiber etc)?

I've used N-Large2 in the past and it has worked well for me. I hear that BSN's True Mass is a good gainer.

As far as what to look for in a gainer, you have the benefit of being in an era where gainers are based on protein. Back in the 80s and early 90s (the carb era), most weight gainers were loaded with carbs and a low-to-modest amount of protein.

I would say that a good one should have no more than 100 grams of carbs, at least 40 grams of protein, and a hint of fat. The key, however, is serving size. A good size should be 150-160 grams (5-6 ounces) of powder. If the serving size is 200 grams or more, that's at least 7 ounces of powder, hinting that you might wish to steer clear of that one.

13239  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Columbusdude's Bible Study Thread on: March 14, 2008, 09:35:06 AM
I'll bet they never sing it in churches any more.

Probably more of that "I can only imagine" crap I see them hawking on infomercials.


Some churches still do, particularly those that lean toward gospel music. The funny part is that the churches that try to sing what's known as "contemporary" Christian songs need with the words displayed via PowerPoint on a giant screen, behind the pulpit. And half the time, they butcher the song.

Speaking of that particular song (I Can Only Imagine), the group that sings it, Mercy Me, has some of the most depressing music I've ever heard. Even one of the secular, top-40 radio stations in Jacksonville, when I lived there, played that song. Nothing kills your buzz when you have a heavy bench or squat to perform than that ballad.
13240  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Insane prices of Protein Powder on: March 13, 2008, 11:40:01 AM
5 Lb for $25?  That's the lowest I've seen lately.  Thanks MCWAY!

You're welcome. Of course, the best deals is when you can get the stuff on clearance, as I did in January. But, that price has been fairly consistent at Vitamin Shoppe's site. The BodyTech line has some great stuff. For example, if you're a fan of CELL-TECH, you might want to check out Crea-Tech Extreme.

Use the Super Saver Shipping, which cost only $3 and can have your stuff delivered in 3-10 days (Shipping is free if you order at least $99 worth of stuff).

13241  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Insane prices of Protein Powder on: March 13, 2008, 11:32:53 AM
What?  Where do you buy your protein columbusdude82?

As of the date of this post, you can still get 5 pounds of protein powder for $28 - $36 at DPS Nutrition

Ultimate Nutrition Whey Supreme Protein Choc - 5 Lb
By: Ultimate Nutrition
DPS Price: $27.99

Ultimate Nutrition 100% Whey Pro Star Protein Raspberry - 5 Lb
By: Ultimate Nutrition
DPS Price: $31.99

There's also Vitamin Shoppe, where their brand (BodyTech) of whey protein powder, called Whey Tech, runs for $25 for a 5-lb jug. Whey Tech Pro (which has more whey protein isolate and Aminogen) runs for $34.
13242  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Over wieght cristians ? on: March 13, 2008, 11:08:00 AM
lol at Stella's story. 

Do you get the "do you take steroids" questions?  I had a former employee ask me on three separate occasions over the course of a few months.  I even tried to show him pictures of guys on the sauce to illustrate that I was a long way from looking like (the old) Arnold, but people who know nothing about training, nutrition, or supplementing just look at a person with a little muscle and equate that with drug use.  It took me weeks to convince this same guy to try ZMA (he thought it was a steroid).   Smiley

I had an Oriental kid actually ask me where he could buy steroids. I told him that I don't know, only to have him asked (in a state of shock) if I took them. I remember thinking "Here I am struggling to buy Mega Mass and GNC's cheap milk and egg protein powder, and this guy thinks I'm taking 'roids!!??

And this was before I got over 200 lbs. Since I broke that mark, I've been asked that a time or two.

13243  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Columbusdude's Bible Study Thread on: March 13, 2008, 10:59:04 AM
Does no one disagree even slightly with verse 6? "Be careful for nothing," "Take no thought for the morrow." Don't think ahead.

In the context of the rest of the verses, I took verse 6 to simply mean not to worry. It reminds me of a the tail end of the first verse of a popular hymn (See if you can guess the title):

Oh, what peace we often foreit
Oh, what needless pain we bear
All because we do not carry
Everything to God in prayer.
13244  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Was Caesarion, the son of Julius Caesar and Cleopatra really Jesus??? on: March 13, 2008, 10:52:02 AM
Since you believe the 4 Canonical gospels are factual, accurate accounts with ZERO errors in them what do you think of the Apocryphal Gospels?

I think that they are not in the Bible for a reason. Among other things, it does not mesh with the Gospels or the writings of Paul, as far as aspects of Jesus' life are concerned. And, some of them contained doctrine that is quite contrary to what Jesus Himself taught.

My point was that the Canonical gospels (at least, Matthew and Luke) give references to Jesus' early life, contrary to your earlier statement. While it doens't tell you whether or not Jesus had a bowl of Manna Krispies for breakfast at age 8, I think there's sufficient coverage of His boyhood. In short, the Gospels don't just skip from His birth to His ministry.

13245  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Whey's price going way up on: March 13, 2008, 10:41:50 AM
Even Vitamin Shoppe has increased its prices on Whey Tech, at least, at the retail stores. Now, the 5-lb. jugs are $28 instead of $25. This may be just the start of the price increase.

The last time I checked, Whey Tech was still $25. But, that may not last much longer.

Thankfully, I was able to stock up in January. As I mentioned earlier, I got three jugs of HDT's 5+1 Whey Protein on clearance for $10 per jug, along with an earlier-purchased bag of EAS 100% Whey Protein for $28. I used about 75% of the EAS protein and still have one full jug of HDT Whey left to go.

13246  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: I have a question about CREATINE on: March 12, 2008, 04:26:17 PM
wouldnt matter which flavor the ingredients are the same. Problem with using a pre-workout NO product that contains creatine is the fact most pre-workout products contain caffeine which you will get tolerant of.  The Elite contained Beta-Alanine which caused your tingling feelings.

That's why I mentioned the whole tolerance thing. Nano Vapor has Beta-Alanine, too. As I said, the tingly feeling came every time I used Nano Vapor the first time (Fruit punch). But, that hasn't quite happened with this jug (Blue Raspberry). And, it was at least two months between running out of the first jug and buying the second one about two weeks ago.
13247  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: American Media (Flex Magazine) in huge debt on: March 12, 2008, 03:35:08 PM
Does not matter-if they go BK, which they will (who the fuck pays 350 MILLION!! for M&F, Fles and "Shape"??) all of the magazines will be impacted adversely.

Indeed. But, my point was that American Media's woes are not indicative of FLEX magazine's success. And, it certainly has nothing to do with FLEX losing ground to MD, which usually gets brought up by the MD folks.

It was my impression that American Media bought FLEX, M&F, and Shape to help boost the profits.

13248  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: American Media (Flex Magazine) in huge debt on: March 12, 2008, 03:12:32 PM
I do have a clue - my clue is that you were raised in a religious household and purposely reject the overwhelming scientific evidence proving evolution because you don't want it to interfere with your invisible friend in the sky ideology.

You are one of the rare people who is actually otherwise intelligent yet still religious.  You have a high IQ and no excuse.  Smiley

A high IQ does not require me to reject my religious beliefs. BTW, another bright guy, responsible for making milk safe to drink and curing chickens of deadly disease also rejected the "overwhelming scientific evidence proving evolution". When you start tossing your dairy products and chicken breasts, because of that, let me know.

What does any of this have to do with America Media or FLEX magazine?

13249  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: American Media (Flex Magazine) in huge debt on: March 12, 2008, 03:01:35 PM
I registered an account slightly after you did:;u=1835

Which is odd seeing how my user number is lower than yours.

Since I first registered on getbig nearly five years ago, certain folks proclaim evolution to be "goo to you by way of the zoo" and say that people still "aren't buying it" even though the consensus in the scientific community is virtually unanimous.

Are you on crack or something? This is, what, the NTH TIME you've brought up evolution on thread that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT TOPIC.

Get a clue!!!!
13250  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The Big Show vs. Mayweather on: March 12, 2008, 02:56:10 PM
Is wrestlings popularity slowly dieing Undecided

Hmmmm.....Last year's WrestleMania was in Ford Field, with over 80,000 people. This year's WrestleMania is in the Citrus Bowl.

That doesn't sound like dying to me.
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