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13226  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Don't listen to Anssi Mannimen claims on Muscletech- has a hidden agenda on: March 19, 2008, 10:20:52 AM

The first product that I got scammed on was Muscle Mass 3000.  Mike Matarrazzo was endorsing that product as using it to get in contest shape.

As was mentioned before, you are referring to Mega Mass. Achim Albrecht endorsed Mega Mass 2000; Mike Matarazzo endorse the "upgrade", Super Mega Mass 2000; and Lou Ferrigno did the other "upgrade", Giant Mega Mass 4000.

The one thing I didn't like about the Mega Mass powders (Giant Mega Mass 4000, in particular) is that the protein content varied significantly, based on flavor. Vanilla has more than Chocolate and Pineapple had considerably more than either one of them.
13227  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Subway?? on: March 19, 2008, 08:29:36 AM
If you are bulking a Subway sub isnt the worst thing you could eat. If you choose correctly that is!

Exactly!!! Simply choose whole wheat bread, lots of veggies, lean meat, and no creamy dressings, and you essentially have what the average bodybuilder would eat.

Of course, that's if you're on the run. Otherwise, you can prepare your own sandwich, using those same items.
13228  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Worst PRO BB'er EVER!! on: March 19, 2008, 05:49:11 AM
muscletech bought kovacs a pro card Kiss
jones blew a few people to get his... Lips sealed

Not quite (at least, I hope not with Jones).

Greg Kovacs won the Canadian Nationals in 1996, earning his pro card. That's the best he's ever looked. Had he kept that version of his physique, he may had done alright at the pro level. Unfortunately, due to too much press from his then-employers, he kept trying to get bigger (the LAST thing he needed to do) and messed up his proportions, not to mentioned that he never duplicated his condition as the '96 Nationals.

Ken Jones turned pro that same year, at the same show where the current Mr. Olympia won his pro card. As you know, all the class winners are eligible for pro status. But, the odds of a bantamweight making an impact at the pro level are slim and none (with slim heading for the "EXIT" sign).



13229  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: About time Muscletech canceled the contract with MD on: March 18, 2008, 01:22:01 PM

Naked pics of Scarlett Johansson and I'm buyin Grin

You might want to check MD's back issues from 2001 and 2002.
13230  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: IS GNC THE BIGGEST RIP OFF STORE EVER? on: March 18, 2008, 01:15:50 PM
It's like anything else, they have some good deals and then they have some things you can find elsewhere  cheaper.

Indeed!! For those weeping and gnashing their teeth about the price of protein powder, I recommend checking out Vitamin Shoppe. Its BodyTech line has a protein powder called Whey Tech, which goes for $25-$28 for a 5-lb. jug (the lower price is on the website; the higher price in at the retail store).

For a slightly higher quality of protein powder, there's Whey Tech 24 Pro, which has more Whey protein Isolate, a higher percentage of protein per serving, and contains Aminogen. A 5-lb jug of that goes for about $35.

13231  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: IS GNC THE BIGGEST RIP OFF STORE EVER? on: March 18, 2008, 12:55:23 PM
QUIT IT with you and your undercover sales rep Muscle tech spam shit already you fkn floridian TOOL you!

Get this through your skull, Mr. "Rebel Without a Clue": I do not now, nor have I ever worked for MuscleTech or any other supplement company, such as Gaspari Nutrition, Optimum Nutrition, ABB, or any other entity I mentioned (which you, in your knee-yerk haste to blubber and wail upon the very mention of MuscleTech, neglected to see).



13232  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: About time Muscletech canceled the contract with MD on: March 18, 2008, 12:44:18 PM
lmao, the MD drama is always funny

You don't suppose they'll go back to being All-Natural Muscular Development?
13233  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Don't listen to Anssi Mannimen claims on Muscletech- has a hidden agenda on: March 18, 2008, 12:20:37 PM
Shouldnt the athletes promoting the products be implicated as well?

Because it is the athletes that the kids are trying to emulate thinking that if they take this/that product they will look like Jay Cutler, Dexter Jackson, ect....

Kids at that age dont know its all about anabolics and HGH and slin....the athletes are guilty as well for making people believe that lie.....

I used to believe all that crap when I was akid thinking Cybergenics and Mega-Mass shakes were going to get me huge...it was all bullshit!

Implicated for what? The bodybuilders are saying that the product HELPED them, which, if they are actually using them, would be true. Plus, since they get the products for free (or get paid to use them), they can ingest the stuff as if it's Kool-Aid.

I used to think that way about MET-Rx, as bodybuilders in the 90s were swearing by this stuff. I tried it but didn't get swole and thought I got ripped off. Upon further review, I found out that these guys were drinking EIGHT to TEN packets of MET-Rx a day, in addition to their regular food intake.

Eight packs of MET-Rx is just under 300 grams of protein. Not that MET-Rx isn't a good product, but if you ingest 300 grams from any MRP (Meso-Tech, MyoPlex, etc.) or protein powder (ON 100% Whey, NITRO-TECH, etc.) and don't grow, you might want to consider taking up badminton as a hobby, instead.

The only thing Cybergenics got me was SORE, thanks to that "negative failure" stuff. As for Mega Mass, I actually liked that product (Banana was my favorite), used it in college back in '96 (three 10-oz servings of powder, mixed in water per day, in between meals and post-workout), and put on 21 lbs. in three months.
13234  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: IS GNC THE BIGGEST RIP OFF STORE EVER? on: March 18, 2008, 11:55:27 AM
What are you talking about!? Maybe the GNC stores outside of the NY/NJ area are a bad value, but i get 45% off everything in the store the first 7 days of the month. For example: ON protein 5lbs is 36 bucks. 5lbs of Muscle milk is 40 bucks. Now that's cheap even compared to online stores. Don't get much better than that 'round these parts.

I live in Florida, and the GNCs in the Sunshine State have good deals, too. There's one at a particular mall that almost always has stuff marked down. Most of the time, it's the RTDs, either the GNC ones or the kind from ABB (Pure Pro, Mass Recovery, Blue Thunder).

And, if you're in the mood to try MuscleTech's or Gaspari Nutrition's new stuff, GNC often has the "Buy one; get one 50% off" promotion (in this case, that promo is for MuscleTech's sister company, Muscle Asylum).




13235  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Don't listen to Anssi Mannimen claims on Muscletech- has a hidden agenda on: March 17, 2008, 12:04:08 PM
MT was full of shit from day one.  They had ads for Acetebolan, creating 6000 and some other crap claiming that you would gain guaranteed 30 pounds in 14 days.  They were cons from the start but for some reason they didn't fizzle.  They must have had deep pockets to keep them afloat.  This company has reinvented itself about 5 times now.

The "other crap" was, at that time, MuscleTech's most popular product: Hydroxycut (with ma huang/ephedra). As for why MuscleTech didn't fizzle, that can be summed up in two products: CELL-TECH and NITRO-TECH.

At first, MuscleTech pushed Hydroxycut and, later, its prohormones (Anotesten and Nortesten) hard and heavy, as did many other companies with their respective fat-burners and prohormones. But, when the ban for ephedra and prohormones (except DHEA) started looming, MuscleTech did a complete 180o turn.

First, they developed an ephedra-free Hydroxycut; but more importantly, MuscleTech shifted nearly ALL of its marketing focus to CELL-TECH and NITRO-TECH. As one poster (who may not be here, anymore) put it, it was a smart move, as (quoting from memory), "It's pretty hard to &%*@ up creatine and whey protein".

All the companies, whose hallmark products were "I can't believe it's not steroids" (andro products) or ma-huang-based fatburners, went belly up. Obviously, MuscleTech did not.
13236  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Don't listen to Anssi Mannimen claims on Muscletech- has a hidden agenda on: March 17, 2008, 11:25:29 AM
Doesn't Blechman own Twin Labs?  If so I can see why he'd want to promote his product and ruin the reps of others.  Doesn't MD whore MHP like crazy?

Steve Blechman and his family once owned TwinLab. He sold his interest to his father and brothers in 2001 taking with him ownership of the magazine. Unless I'm mistaken, things started to unravel shortly after Steve (claiming to be under pressure from his kinfolk) altered the magazine to become All-Natural Muscular Development, featuring only Team Universe guys and other reported natural bodybuilders.

The Blechman clan no longer owns TwinLab. I'm not quite sure about this, but I think it belongs to a company associated with that Tony Robbins guy.


13237  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Don't listen to Anssi Mannimen claims on Muscletech- has a hidden agenda on: March 17, 2008, 11:17:03 AM
Wait, are you guys saying that Aplodan is fake?  Oh snap.  I better return my Jay Cutler Mass Stack that cost me $3000 from GNC.

You should have used the Gold Card. It would have only cost you $2400.  Grin
13238  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama’s Spiritual Adviser Questioned U.S. Role in Spread of HIV, Sept. 11 Attack on: March 17, 2008, 11:09:22 AM
They tried to link Mccain with some guy who made some anti-catholic or anti islamic statements. He is considered Mccains spiritual advisor. I'm not sure if its a tokern kind of thing but this guy is in Ohio and not somebody that Mccain went to every sunday over 20 years. He's from the World harvest church. If this is the same place, then I lived 5 miles from this place. Its massive. The stuff they had on Fox didn't sound even remotely bad. In any event this is an Obama issue and he's done very little to distance himself. i don't even know what u can do. He went over 20 years, and this guy baptized his kids.

The man to whom you're referring is pastor Rod Parsley. Prior to this stuff with McCain, the last political figure with whom Parsley was associated (which brought him under scrutiny) was, I think, a mayor or governor who was backing the state's marriage amendment.
13239  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Don't listen to Anssi Mannimen claims on Muscletech- has a hidden agenda on: March 17, 2008, 10:47:55 AM
A co-worker gave me a copy of this month's MD, with NPC National Champion, Evan Centopani, on the cover. And, I saw MuscleTech ads a-plenty in that one.
13240  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk / Re: Have you met any bodybuilding pros? on: March 15, 2008, 06:00:46 PM
I've met Stan McCrary at the 2005 Southeastern USA. I think he was still with MuscleTech at the time. He was promoting his video and other wares, and I believe his girlfriend was competing in the figure show there. She won her class; but the overall title went to the same girl who won the fitness show (she was the only competitor in that one).

13241  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk / Re: How many of you started lifting thinking you could get big and ripped but th on: March 15, 2008, 05:54:54 PM
The first time I did a ketogenic diet I lost 35 pounds in 2 months.  Years later I tried again and lost maybe 10 lbs.  I went on low carb and massive cardio and lost 70 lbs.  Weak as hell when I started to lift again.  I have found to maintain strength and bodyweight to eat 1600 or so calories during the week and whatever I want 1 or 2 days a week.  Kinda like carb loading but really a calorie load.

That tends to be the case, from what I've experienced. The initial shock to your system shears the pounds right off. I dropped 12 lbs. the first 10 days I went on a low-carb diet.

One thing you can do to keep your strength up is to keep up the creatine intake. It worked well for me, however, initially I was using a creatine product with no carb (V-12). When I ran out of that, all I had left was two large jugs and one small jug of CELL-TECH that I'd bought a few months earlier. After being frustrated with the strength loss, from the low carbs and no creatine, I decide to start using CELL-TECH again.

However, I simply did a balancing act. I cut my carbs from my regular meals, to allow for those contained in one of my favorite supplements.

Give that a try (with either CELL-TECH or whatever your favorite creatine product is) and see if it helps keep that strength up for you.
13242  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk / Re: How many of you started lifting thinking you could get big and ripped but then on: March 15, 2008, 05:32:26 PM
Compared to where I was when I started...sure...but now at 30 my only real goal to get lean and stay that way...can't put on any more muscle..not really anyway, too old, genetics too bad...

Too old? You just turned 30 last month. That is anything but too old.

I reached my biggest and strongest at age 32, tipping the scales at 252 lbs. Now, my goal is to be just as strong, check that, STRONGER than I was then but leaner when I turn 35. Right now, I'm at 230.

There are no monsters in my family, as I come from an ectomorphic bunch. But believe me, when it comes to gaining size, you are anything but washed up at age 30.



13243  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Pre/During/Post Workout on: March 15, 2008, 02:18:39 PM
Or just do what big Ron Coleman does, go eat 2 chicken breasts with some beans, rice and cornbread at the Black Eyed Pea restaurant after you lift. I would bet he doesn't time his specific consumption of those meals either, and he seems to have done okay for himself Cool

He does that about 30 minutes after he finishes his workout (where his food is pre-ordered at that restaurant). However, he does have a post-workout shake immediately after he's done.
13244  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Who Is This Jesus? Is He Risen? on: March 15, 2008, 12:26:06 PM
It's the weekend before Good Friday and Resurrection Sunday (bka Easter). Has anyone had the chance to see "Who Is This Jesus? Is He Risen?"

This is normally when it comes on the air, but I'm not sure if the schedule is still the same since the death of Dr. D. James Kennedy.
13245  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: IS GNC THE BIGGEST RIP OFF STORE EVER? on: March 14, 2008, 10:10:05 AM
Nope!!

Again, all it takes is patience. Wait for the markdowns; use the Gold Card; and clean up!!!

 Grin
13246  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: What are your favorite supplements? on: March 14, 2008, 10:02:40 AM
I'll list my favorites by category (with the "Honorable Mention" in italics)

Creatine - MuscleTech's CELL-TECH; BodyTech's Crea-Tech Extreme, Gaspari Nutrition's Size-On

Protein Powder - ON's 100% Whey Gold Standard; BodyTech's Whey Tech

RTDs - Nature's Best's  IsoPure (regular and zero carb); IDS' New Whey, ABB's Pure Pro, Mass Recovery, Blue Thunder

Fat Burner - MuscleTech's Hydroxycut Hardcore; Nx-Care's Rev XP, MuscleTech's ThermoShred

NO Product - MuscleTech's Nano Vapor

Carb product - IDS WaxiMaize

Weight Gainer (when I used them) - ProLab's N-Large2; Ultimate Nutrition's Ultimae Whey Gainer



13247  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: weight gainer on: March 14, 2008, 09:49:04 AM
I'm looking for a good weight gainer there are so many out there.  What are the most important things I need to be looking for(IE protein, carbs, calories, sugars, fiber etc)?

I've used N-Large2 in the past and it has worked well for me. I hear that BSN's True Mass is a good gainer.

As far as what to look for in a gainer, you have the benefit of being in an era where gainers are based on protein. Back in the 80s and early 90s (the carb era), most weight gainers were loaded with carbs and a low-to-modest amount of protein.

I would say that a good one should have no more than 100 grams of carbs, at least 40 grams of protein, and a hint of fat. The key, however, is serving size. A good size should be 150-160 grams (5-6 ounces) of powder. If the serving size is 200 grams or more, that's at least 7 ounces of powder, hinting that you might wish to steer clear of that one.

13248  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Columbusdude's Bible Study Thread on: March 14, 2008, 09:35:06 AM
I'll bet they never sing it in churches any more.

Probably more of that "I can only imagine" crap I see them hawking on infomercials.

LOL!!

Some churches still do, particularly those that lean toward gospel music. The funny part is that the churches that try to sing what's known as "contemporary" Christian songs need with the words displayed via PowerPoint on a giant screen, behind the pulpit. And half the time, they butcher the song.


Speaking of that particular song (I Can Only Imagine), the group that sings it, Mercy Me, has some of the most depressing music I've ever heard. Even one of the secular, top-40 radio stations in Jacksonville, when I lived there, played that song. Nothing kills your buzz when you have a heavy bench or squat to perform than that ballad.
13249  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Insane prices of Protein Powder on: March 13, 2008, 11:40:01 AM
5 Lb for $25?  That's the lowest I've seen lately.  Thanks MCWAY!

You're welcome. Of course, the best deals is when you can get the stuff on clearance, as I did in January. But, that price has been fairly consistent at Vitamin Shoppe's site. The BodyTech line has some great stuff. For example, if you're a fan of CELL-TECH, you might want to check out Crea-Tech Extreme.

Use the Super Saver Shipping, which cost only $3 and can have your stuff delivered in 3-10 days (Shipping is free if you order at least $99 worth of stuff).

13250  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Insane prices of Protein Powder on: March 13, 2008, 11:32:53 AM
What?  Where do you buy your protein columbusdude82?

As of the date of this post, you can still get 5 pounds of protein powder for $28 - $36 at DPS Nutrition

http://www.dpsnutrition.net/search.asp?p=2&c=protein&t=s&m=0

Ultimate Nutrition Whey Supreme Protein Choc - 5 Lb
By: Ultimate Nutrition
DPS Price: $27.99
http://www.dpsnutrition.net/get_item_un207.htm

Ultimate Nutrition 100% Whey Pro Star Protein Raspberry - 5 Lb
By: Ultimate Nutrition
DPS Price: $31.99
http://www.dpsnutrition.net/get_item_un183.htm


There's also Vitamin Shoppe, where their brand (BodyTech) of whey protein powder, called Whey Tech, runs for $25 for a 5-lb jug. Whey Tech Pro (which has more whey protein isolate and Aminogen) runs for $34.

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/en/query.jsp?q=bodytech&x=&ist=&pt=&b=&d=&k=&pr=&o=bestsellers&s=&c=2&u=&num_pages=6&bc=pt%7Cb%7Cpr%7Cist
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