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51  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Trying this Arnold Schwarzenegger workout for the next 8 weeks. on: August 15, 2014, 10:06:38 AM
I could never believe this whole "Arnold's brutally hard training" thing. There are accounts of Arnold being humbled while training with Jones in Florida, he couldn't take the workouts. There is also a quote from Arnold himself saying if he ever had to train like Viator, he'd quit bbing and take up skiing or something like that.

What separated Arnold from the rest were his genes and drugs though, Platz probably trained 10x harder than him and what did that do for Tom? Same with Viator.

It gave Platz the FREAKIEST LEGS ever seen on a human being. And of course, there are those who feel he got ROBBED in 1981 at the Olympia, placing 3rd behind Dickerson and Columbu.

He later ended up making much coin at the WBF's Director of Talent Deveolpment and commentator at both championships.

52  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The truth about "my beautiful boy" Michael Brown on: August 15, 2014, 10:04:29 AM
Actually, Rush just played some footage from the Neo-Black Panthers, BLASTING Obama saying he's a Kenyan who basically has no right to tell other people what to do in other countries, while black people get gunned down here.

Then, there are some of the protesters, screaming "F--- y'all" to Obama and Sharpton.
53  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Trying this Arnold Schwarzenegger workout for the next 8 weeks. on: August 15, 2014, 06:01:00 AM
i was lucky that i got to train with MR WORLD 1970 BILL GRANT back in 94,bill trained with arnold alot n showed me the exact workouts they did back in golds in the 70,s. it was basiclly a primary/antoginist type of routine, bill and i would do a set of bench presses super setted with front chins,then incline barbell supersetted with bent rows,then flyes supersetted with low pulley rows ect, yous get the idea. arm day was always supersets of bis n tris also, legs n calves we did alone, it was a hard routine, bill showed me some cool stuff,the thing i loved the most was the tons of stories he used to tell me about arnold,waller,robby,corney ect n the crazy shit that went on in golds back then,i loved it, bill is one of the coolest guys youll ever want to meet

I've trained that way for several years and I absolutely dig it. There's just one modification. I train in what MuscleMag labeled "Alternates" style.

Simply put, instead of doing antagonistic supersets (i.e. no rest between excercises), I rest about a minute or two between movements.

For example, I'll do incline bench presses, rest 1-2 minutes, then do pull-ups. Next, I'll go for flat bench presses/digs, rest another minutes, then do rows.

Alternates are AWESOME for both getting pumped and moving heavy weight. Of course, if you're crunched for time, antagonistic supersets rule.
54  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Is this the greatest natural bodybuilder ever?? on: August 15, 2014, 05:16:33 AM
I wouldn't say the greatest ever. His physiqie is square-ish; but he is ripped. And at 5'9", 185-190 lbs, he's not the biggest guy out there.


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrgXxUNxPzc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrgXxUNxPzc</a>


Especially when compared with WNBF pro, Martin Daniels.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERqBbuVbYZk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERqBbuVbYZk</a>

Edit - Daniels now competes in the IFPA, just as Miller does.

55  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Surgeon to Ronnie Coleman : "Oh you lift weights" on: August 15, 2014, 04:50:11 AM

He probably pays half of that for his multiple child support, but other than that.. yes... I guess that's not the most failed human being on earth. Looks/sounds dumb as hell tho', but that may be deceiving.

Ronnie is just a country boy from Louisiana. I had a history professor from North Carolina with an accent almost as thick as Ronnie's accent.
56  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Surgeon to Ronnie Coleman : "Oh you lift weights" on: August 15, 2014, 04:41:54 AM
he says "oh i see you re a weight lifter".  How is that ignorant, it's exactly what coleman did, he lifted weights and destroyed his body and now nearing his 50s walks like an old lady ... the doc probably knows he also abused steroids.

Doc is probably making 250 000 a year driving a different porsche every week and living in a mansion. Not too surprised he s cynical and teases dumb ass roleman , welcome in the adult world where steroids junkies and morons who self destroyed their bones with stupid weights to feel better about their sorry pathetic lack of achievements are considered for what they are by their peers; sad low lives.

Not too smart of roleman to post a vid of himself being ridiculed on internet , but it s always the same with these clowns when everything starts crumbling, it s when they get more and more pathetic not even figuring people are mocking them blatantly.

All Ronnie has done so far is....


- Graduate from college with a degree in accounting
- Serve on the Arlington Police force
- Win the Mr. Universe (heavyweight class)
- Win the same bodybuilding titles that Arnold Schwarzenegger won
- Grace the cover of several magazines for nearly a decade
- Start his own supplement company
- Make considerably more than $250,000 per year in endorsement contracts.

What a real loser.... Roll Eyes
57  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Mr.Olympia 2014 - who is the best representative of the sport? on: August 14, 2014, 11:15:53 AM
Big Ramy all the way.. If it weren't for the grapefruit/gaydance incident Kai would easily be a great representative!

Didn't both Arnold and Larry Scott pose nekkid in their heyday?
58  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: WWE Top 50 Finishing Moves on: August 14, 2014, 11:13:55 AM
I thought the Garvin Stomp was bad....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVGo38uCj2s

Was that his finisher? I thought it was the "Hands of Stone" knockout punch.

Once the Rock started using the "People's Elbow" as his finisher, it became sorry. During the match (especially as a heel in late '97/early '98), it looked fairly cool.
59  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Fox News host: First lady needs to 'drop a few' pounds on: August 14, 2014, 10:59:09 AM
yep, it was rush calling them for it.  

it was rush that ushered in the "lets not impeach charge"

He led that charge, because (as he explained) you have to have the people behind you to be successful and the GOP hadn't articulate the grounds for such to the public-at-large. Rush REPEATEDLY stated (citing several pundits) that impeachment takes political will and public support, neither of which the Republicans have.



if anything, my ignorant error shows us that Rush himself, credible with the base, was worried about this massive organized effort to embrace amnesty despite 2/3 of actual repubs being very much against it.

it's not 240 telling you there was a major concerted effort by the GOP - it's Rush himself.  Tough to argue that.

It's not just Republicans against this. More and more Dems are against this crap, including black leaders who've excoriated Obama, citing that amnesty will cost black people their jobs.

Rush's ire at the GOP is that the politicans aren't listening to the people and the voters; they're beholden to the Chamber of Commerce and their business cronies who want cheap labor. The GOP doesn't need the Latino vote to win; they won multiple elections with barely a third of the Latino vote. Amnesty didn't help Bush 41 with the Hispanics nearly 30 years ago and it won't help the GOP now. Bush 43 got 40% of the Latino vote and barely won in 2004.
60  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Protesters Lash Out at Obama & Sharpton “You Haven’t Changed on: August 14, 2014, 10:52:16 AM
Nothing. F**k Y’all!”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/ferguson-unrest-day-5-obama-you-have-don-nothing-fck-yall/

PROTESTS CONTINUE IN FERGUSON, MISSOURI–
Hundreds of protesters take to the streets on Wednesday night.

Not everyone is thrilled with Obama…
“Obama, you have done nothing! We need you! You haven’t changed anything! F*ck y’all!”

Protesters lash out at Obama-Sharpton: “Didn’t do sh*t for us” and “F*ck Sharpton”

Time to get our "WE TOLD YOU SO!" on!
61  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Breaking News! Alex Federov. Return of the Russian. on: August 14, 2014, 10:49:08 AM
I remember ,woulda,coulda,shoulda...he was a top guy there 'russia'so it something..

I'm not disagreeing with that. People were utterly stunned as to why he looked so awful in 2005, after his excellent condition in 2003 and 2004.

Although, I do recall King Kamali joking that (with regards to the 2004 Russian Grand Prix, which qualified Federov for the 2005 Olympia), if he could have trained his non-lifting uncle from Iran for a year, his uncle would have placed 2nd to Ronnie at that show.
62  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Fox News host: First lady needs to 'drop a few' pounds on: August 14, 2014, 10:42:31 AM
There was a coordinated effort - within the same 2 week period following the 2012 election loss.
A large number of republican politicians, reince priebus, and FOX pundits completely reversed their positions on amnesty simultaneously.

Krauthammer:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/11/07/krauthammer_gives_election_post-mortem_gop_needs_to_change_position_on_immigration.html

Hannity on the 9th - I've evolved.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/sean-hannity-ive-evolved-on-immigration-reform-support-pathway-to-citizenship/

nov 13th - Rand suddenly supports amnesty:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/11/13/pot-and-amnesty-rand-pauls-surprising-new-agenda-for-the-gop/


Even RUSH called them OUT for it, on nov 8th, saying everyone shouldn't sell out and panic:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/11/08/oh_the_futility_establishment_gop_draws_all_the_wrong_lessons_from_election_results

Again this year, RUSH called out all the house repubs that reversed roles on AMnesty in response to 2012 elections:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/08/01/house_republicans_walk_amnesty_tightrope


Don't take my work for it - even VERY far right wing publications are condemning this coordinated effort:
http://www.minutemanpac.com/html/2015.html

Now, do you need MORE examples, one by one, but why not just give you this?


Reince priebus delivers his "autopsy" on the 2012 race and proclaims there is a new CONSENSUS among repub lawmakers to support amnesty:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/17/Reince-Priebus-Claims-Consensus-Within-GOP-for-Amnesty-Legislation

There you have it.  Please, no more talk of "there isn't a coordinated effort".  I mean, 67% of repubs want the illegals booted, yet there's a "consensus" among GOP lawmakers saying the opposite?   lol

repubs, the party betrayed you, very suddenly and it cannot be denied.

Listen to what you just said. You claimed that the GOP suddenly abandoned their position because Rush told them to. Ye,t you cite Rush saying the EXACT OPPOSITE.

Hannity waffled on the deportation aspect. But, he has maintained that the border be secured first. And, he knows that the amnesty bunch aren't going to secure the border. For that reason, he remains a staunch opponent of amnesty.

We know the RINOs and the Dems want amnesty but for different reasons. And each wants the other party to take the hit for the backlash.

If Obama and the Dems were so high on amnesty, they would have passed it in 2009 or 2010, when the GOP couldn't stop them (and a handful in the Senate actually wanted to help them).
63  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Breaking News! Alex Federov. Return of the Russian. on: August 14, 2014, 10:30:14 AM
I remember the hype machine on him,in that back pic he really is not holding his own with prime jay/beast Ronnie...he had great legs,no chest,shape was so/so ,condition was ok for most part..

You will recall that he was an amateur in that pic. I think that's how he got his pro card. There used to (and may still) be a rule where amateurs could enter pro shows and, if they placed top 10, they could turn pro. I know they did that with the women's side.

Federov defeated several pros who'd placed top 10 at the 2003 Olympia. That's impressive, no matter how you slice it.

64  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not... on: August 14, 2014, 08:50:47 AM
Ronnies secret is obviously genetics first, but he didnt hop on a boatload of gear like most really early. Kai is the same way for different reasons.

I still have an old issue of "All-Natural Muscular Development" that featured Greene when he was the WNBF Mr. Universe. Back then, he had a high-top fade, looked extremely lankly (compared to how he looks now) and seeming had no lats. Now, his back is beyond belief.

In fact, he first competed in the WNBF Mr. Universe in 1994 at age 19, the youngest competitor in history at that time. A year later, he won the WNBF US Pro Cup (see pic below).



65  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Breaking News! Alex Federov. Return of the Russian. on: August 14, 2014, 08:47:37 AM
was not as great as everyone made him out to be...

After looking awesome in 2003 and 2004, he appeared at the 2005 Olympia completely off and hasn't been the same since then.

66  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Rick Santorum GETS IT! on: August 14, 2014, 08:46:16 AM
Why are you posting here now?  You know you are not supposed to post until I am traveling.  Isn't that how it has been for the last nine months?  I leave, you appear.  I return, you vanish.  Like a physical manifestation of an acute bipolar disorder.  (yours, not mine).   Seriously, didn't you get the memo on my travel plans?  You gotta work a bit harder if we are going to keep this gimmick going. 

PS Brock/Cena will end up being a screwy finish.

Nope. Or did you forget that you posted on my thread about Lesnar ending Undertaker's Streak and on my WM 30 pics overall?

 Grin
67  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Fox News host: First lady needs to 'drop a few' pounds on: August 14, 2014, 08:44:38 AM
there are some people that don't realize FOX exists to offer a right-wing altenative to left-wing news.  They think FOX sits in the middle.  It's hard to discuss anything with them, when they begin in such a place.  It's like arguing with a kid about whether or not santa likes poor kids... the kid cannot accept the truth about santa, so everything built upon it, every debate, is flawed by definition.  

FOX being the 'most trusted' - voted upon by those who watch it.  What does that mean?  It means cnn and msnbc viewers have a more critical eye on what the TV tells them, and those who watch FOX just nod along and agree with everything.   I mean, think of how many repubs COMPLETELY ABANDONED their position on amnesty in 5 minutes, because, well, FOX said so.  THink of how many repubs COMPLETELY ABANDONED their position on impeachment in 5 minutes, because, well, FOX said so.

Most trusting viewers.  That's what FOX has.  They'll abandon positions (like closing the border) they've held for 50 years, in five minutes, because Rush limbaugh, a man who admits carrying water in the past, tells them to.   MOST TRUSTING - not most trusted.  Hope this helps.

When did Fox News as a whole tell the GOP to abandon their position on either amnesty or impeachment? Try....NEVER!! People on the network have various opinions. All the GOPers who were for it still are; and that pretty much goes the same for those against it (Cruz, Lee, Scott, Bachmann, Goudy, et al).

68  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: #1 Phil Heath Fan on: August 14, 2014, 08:34:37 AM
I've noticed the contradictions as well.
On one hand, people will say BB was better in the past when physiques were be judged on quality over quanity yet on the other hand, they slate Phil for looking small compared to his rivals.

Phil trains smartly reducing the risk of injury so "trains like a pussy" but Coleman's intensity in the gym is now being (partially) blamed for his declining health.

It's the "Golden Era" syndrome. Folks who came up during the mid/late 90s and early 2000s are doing the same routine with Ronnie, that the cats from the 70s were doing with Arnold.
69  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Wrestling Board / Re: Breakout star of 2014 on: August 14, 2014, 08:31:48 AM
Right now they have the most stocked roster they have had in a while, stars in the making but are dropping the ball left and right.

One minute Caesaro is a heel and overnight he is a face HUH?

Ambrose has that Brian Pillman, loose cannon gimmick.

Wyatt - Heel or Face?

Big E, Woods and Huh - Faction one day and gone tomorrow??

NXT also has Devitt, Japanese guy, Sami Zayn and the champ (whose name I forget)....they will drop the ball on them as well.

When did Cesaro turn face again? The last time I saw him on RAW, he was a heel and he lost to Jack Swagger. Earlier this year, he owned Swagger; now, he's tapping out left and right.
70  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Rick Santorum GETS IT! on: August 14, 2014, 08:30:03 AM
There are two demographics that will determine the next election: Working/middle-class white men and married white women.

If Rick Santorum can get the conserative base on his side, with an uptick on those two spots, he is our next president.
71  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Breaking News! Alex Federov. Return of the Russian. on: August 14, 2014, 08:04:10 AM
GENERAL NEWS. Breaking News! Return of the Russian.

Alex Federov returns to compete at the IFBB Grand Prix Fitness House Pro Mens Open on November 1st!

http://www.flexonline.com/general-news/breaking-news-return-russian

By Greg Merritt.



Ten years ago he was a supernova— the biggest story in the muscle world. Like Mamdouh Elssbiay today, Fedorov was the young, foreign behemoth who was going to shake up bodybuilding’s top rankings. What’s more, the Russian’s story seemed dreamed up by a Hollywood screenwriter. He trained in a cemetery! The script was destined for a grave ending when he fell as quickly as he rose. But now, at 36, Fedorov is slated to return to the pro stage in his hometown of St. Petersburg, Russia. As he prepares, we look back at one of the most incredible tales in the history of bodybuilding.

Why do these Russian and European guys have that bronze/gold look on stage, whereas the US competitors often look like giant carrots?
72  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: #1 Phil Heath Fan on: August 14, 2014, 08:01:49 AM
Somebody send this kid a video of ronnie coleman training he most likely would die from being too motivated.


That would explain his 3-4 plates on the hammer strength machine.

Folks need to make up their minds here. One minute, they're complaining about Heath using "only" 3-4 plates per side on the Hammer Machine, saying he should train like Ronnie Coleman. But, some of those same folks are now picking on Ronnie because of his nerve damage, muscle tears, and recent hip surgery due to his superheavy lifting.

73  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not... on: August 13, 2014, 07:25:07 PM
What about him? Same ol' Dex. He has no chance of winning anymore.

He supposedly never had a chance of winning in the first place. But, somehow he did it in 2008.

As for his being the 'same ol' Dex, what makes you think he needs to make any major changes to his physique? Shawn Ray stayed much the same (except for gradually getting bigger) and he placed top-5 nearly his entire career at the O.

If Greene and Heath slip up, Dex could conceivably put another Sandow on the mantle.
74  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not... on: August 13, 2014, 05:35:25 PM
Outside of Kai and Heath, I think it will be boring. Rhoden's back isn't on par with the top two. Wolf's calves absolutely suck and he has no lower back. Ramy is huge but lacks separation and Olympia level conditioning.

Don't forget about Dexter.
75  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not... on: August 13, 2014, 05:29:27 PM
Laughed to scorn? I think not.  Its highly debatable who the better bodybuilder was. Many think Ronnie. Many.

Yes. Laughed to scorn, as you're grossly outnumbered by the "golden age" guys.

Arnold retired nearly 35 years ago. But he's been on the cover of multiple muscle magazines EVERY YEAR since hanging up his trunks.
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