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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Firefighters Critically injured during botched "ice bucket" challenge on: August 21, 2014, 03:06:24 PM
http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/2-firefighters-injured-in-training-accident-in-Taylor-County-272187041.html?device=tablet

CAMPBELLSVILLE, Ky. (WKYT) - Two Taylor County firefighters were seriously injured Thursday while helping the Campbellsville University band take part in an ALS ice bucket challenge.

In a news conference on Thursday afternoon, Campbellsville Police Chief Tim Hazlette identified the most seriously injured firefighters as Tony Grider, 41, and Alex Quinn, 22. Grider is a 16-year veteran of the department. Quinn is a part-time firefighter.

"We express heartfelt sympathy and prayers for the families of the two firefighters who were injured," said Dr. Michael V. Carter, president of Campbellsville University.

According to police, Grider and Quinn were in the bucket operating the water nozzle for the water challenge. Police say, at the conclusion of the event, firefighters were moving the apparatus when a power arc occurred with the nearby power lines, striking Grider and Quinn. The ladder apparatus did not hit the power lines. Two other firefighters, Steve Marrs, 37, and Alex Johnson, 28, were able to bring the apparatus to the ground. Marrs has been a firefighter for 11 years, Johnson for three years.

Marrs and Johnson were treated and released at a local hospital. Grider and Quinn are being treated at a hospital in Louisville. Chief Hazlette says Quinn's condition may be improving and Grider's is critical.

Through its Twitter account, Campbellsville University says no students were injured.

The ice bucket challenge is an activity involving dumping a bucket of ice water on someone's head to raise awareness and money for amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), which is also known as Lou Gehrig's disease.

A prayer vigil for the firefighters will be held at 7 p.m. on Strapp Lawn on the Campbellsville University campus.

Are you in the area? Do you have any information, pictures or video to share with WKYT? You can email us at iWitness@wkyt.com, find us on Facebook by searching for WKYT, or send a message to @WKYT on Twitter.

2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hugh Jackman deadlifts 400 pounds! on: August 21, 2014, 02:57:33 PM
Just earned my respect.

Sadly he's stronger than most Getbiggers
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Brother moving to College and finds out he's living with a neckbeard on: August 21, 2014, 05:53:15 AM
New roomy present suggestion:Magic the Gathering card set and a "crossroads"brown dildo.

These gifts say: "I like to stay inside Saturday nights too and I'm open to new things"

Will make freshmen year tolerable
4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Did the monumental August 6th event ever take place? on: August 16, 2014, 09:39:02 AM
What ever happened to the SquadFather? 

Does anyone remember 2K ?  I think that was his handle
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Megalodan eats 9 foot great white shark??? on: June 11, 2014, 09:24:39 PM
Not to discredit the story but how convenient this "Megaladon attack" happened to coincide nicely with the release of a TV documentary on the subject
6  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: for all you "20-30 rep squats" people, how much weight do you actually use? on: May 27, 2014, 04:02:34 PM
High bar squats, front squats, hack squat machine, leg press, lunges, stiff legged deadlifts, laying hamstrings curls and glute ham raises are all great for thigh hypertrophy

Agreed
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: This guy is 5'11, guess his weight on: May 26, 2014, 09:56:29 AM
I buy it.  Probably has chicken legs but looks VERY lean.

Get him a tan, mess with his water and grease this twink up and I bet he looks shredded
8  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Jum box training is it safe ? on: May 26, 2014, 09:51:39 AM
As usual JPM nailed it....the Russians have been doing these for decades!

When I was carrying a bit of extra weight these were a little difficult but a great calorie burner.

Suggestion: be careful doing them directly after squatting! 
7 years ago (when I was more active on this board) I bit-it trying to do multiple jumps onto a ridiculously high box (ridiculous for me....like waist high).   Still bear the scars
9  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: interesting Barbell exercises on: May 26, 2014, 09:35:06 AM
I've done a few of those back when I was training for sport (hammer, squat press, Russian twist) but past about #15 it got kinda silly

Still great info for variation on well-worn barbell methods
10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Olympic lifting 105 kg class on: August 18, 2008, 07:48:48 PM
Brutal:

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/player.html?assetid=0816_sd_wlm_au_l1688
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: All you Yanks who think u're Irish? I've got news for you... on: March 15, 2008, 07:12:17 PM
But i'm not the one pretending I'm not what I am Roll Eyes

I'm Irish-American you stupid fuck, as is anyone who now lives in America.  My grandparents came from Limmerick and I still have family there.  Does that mean anything?  No.  Because I'm Irish-American now. 
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: DOES THIS GUY LOOK 251 POUNDS AT 9-10 PERCENT BODYFAT???? on: January 13, 2008, 01:37:49 PM
yeah i mean i've stood next to Ronnie Coleman, Bill Kazmaier,Kkevin Levrone, i'm sure i'd be overwhelmed at his size. Roll Eyes

Yes he's ripped and weighs around 240-250 and is one bad guy.  SF, go to youtube and type in "Chabal" and watch some clips...great for a preworkout boost.
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Trainer... on: December 30, 2007, 03:52:23 PM
why aren't you wearing headphones and focusing on "your" work out and sneaking an occasional peak at the girl's butt?

I purposely do that so I don't have to hear the nonsense coming out of there mouths.

Sidenote, most women aren't too concerned about the "mind-muscle" connection, leave that one to the big boys.  They just want to sweat, lift some weights and feel like they're accomplishing something, I think his advice isn't all that bad.
14  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Must Increase Bench Press! on: December 23, 2007, 09:00:11 AM
intenceman is right, make sure you don't equate a heavier bench with a bigger chest.  While it may be true, that's not the best route.

I think we should sticky this thread so we don't get every Monday bench whore and their workout bro's to keep asking the same question.
15  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Warm Up sets? What you talkin' about Willis!? on: December 23, 2007, 08:57:02 AM
Jogging or stationary bike,etc.,only warems up the bodys core temperature and doesn`t warm up all of the muscles,tendons,and ligaments.

OK to do,but a specific warmup set or two before at least your first exercise for every bodypart would be much smarter,and much much safer in the long run.

Don`t overdo,just get warm and loose.

100% true.  Moving your legs back and forth does not get you ready to bench press. 

It's a clear young-mans mistake and it will catch up eventually. 

Do your dynamic stretching (movement-based) before you lift and your regular stretching (stationary, hold for 30sec) at the end.
16  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Sports Discussion Boards / Re: Fox sports..bunch of sellouts! on: December 16, 2007, 04:45:01 PM
They're just trying to create some excitement about the game and his bad performance possibly being due to Jessica...or some shit.  Don't pretend like the NFL is a "pure" sport by any means, it's been whored out more than Jessica herself.
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: PROOF that i can legpress 500KG(1102pounds) on: December 15, 2007, 08:38:48 AM
actually it is impressive if you consider that i am 18

Actually, it'd be impressive if you'd take a compliment without pointing out facts that make it seem more impressive.  Humility.
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: MOST HARDCORE GYM IN THE WORLD! on: December 12, 2007, 10:55:51 PM
Good in theory but none of those guys look to be in great shape. Huh

The one guy interviewed is NY Giants Lineman Dave Diehl who attributes a lot of his success to his offseason training and that gym inparticular.  He's also from the Southside of Chicago...which inherently makes him better than most. Grin
19  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: What Functional Training Really Is on: December 12, 2007, 01:25:15 PM
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the problem is that it gets unnecessarily overcomplicated by people who take themselves too seriously.

I think this sums it up the best.
20  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: What Functional Training Really Is on: December 12, 2007, 10:03:47 AM
what if one athlete has more expolosive strength than another? do you increase the weight of the bag? by how much? is the weight of the bag considered and if so, how do you design appropriately work loads based on differing strength/power levels ie bantam and heavy weight competitors?
Of course those factors are considered and you progress them accordingly based on how their training is going and what you want to accomplish, just keep them overloading them, wether its more reps, faster reps, or more weight.

I think you're looking into this too much.  The variables are what makes training...well....train ing.  It's not real life and it's not the actual sport.  Do you really want to get better at MMA(insert sport here)?....then spar more, hit the bag more, roll more...that's how you get better.  The strength and conditioning are just things to help you fix and maintain the techniques and skills you already have.

I've seen guys who do nothing else but jiu jitsu and run and they have great builds and are functionally strong beyond belief.  Their training comes on the mats and in the classes, every day with different partners in different positions and scenarios.  They've never lifted a barbell or done a crunch before.
21  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: wanna quit worrying about lower back when going heavy in the squat rack ? on: December 11, 2007, 11:45:27 PM
use good form and you will not have any back pain..... Roll Eyes

Front Squat
22  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: What Functional Training Really Is on: December 11, 2007, 11:44:45 PM
give me 2 well trained athletes with said sanbags on tow. one i'll ask to throw the bag as far as he can once in 3 planes of motion and the other to throw it this way, that way and the other way for an hour. who do you think's going to throw it faster and harder (power)?

You just defined the function os this type of training.  I would typically give my client an object (say a heavy bag) and have him hip-toss the bag or suplex the bag or tackle the bag...with no prior directions other than "do it!"  Now, would I still cover all my bases in the workout with rotation, level change, locomotion, lateral movement, balance, core work, pushing, pulling....yes!  But he would be training with his sport-specific movements to duplicate scenarios/positions he might face in his sport.
23  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: What Functional Training Really Is on: December 11, 2007, 11:52:52 AM
what i want from my weight lifting is as much strength as possible anyway. for my sport, i develop the technique first, then apply speed and explosive movements ie plyometrics, heavy bag, focus mits, shooting with rubber bands, etc and with the added strength (as long as i haven't compromised my technique/movement with unbalanced or excess body mass) the power comes along nicely.


Great response, especially this quote.  Are you training MMA or boxing?  We've trained 4 different UFC fighters and we do the strength and conditioning for the IFL RedBears so we have some really great programs where I'm at, I'd love to share ideas on the subject.

joelocal is spot-on as usual and I made that point in another thread, utilizing all three planes of motion for athletic training is PARAMOUNT.  We periodize all our athletes to "peak" for a certain event or season and the strength training is usually in the offseason, followed by some general training, power training and then circuit training to get their conditioning ready.
24  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: core/functional training on: December 10, 2007, 10:29:36 PM
Everyone forgets the main premise behind functional training known as Proprioceptive neurofacilitation, or teaching the musculoskeletal system and the nervous system to work better together.  It allows people to react faster and more appropriately to opposing forces.  This is great for athletes in many sports, but has minimal applications for bodybuilders and powerlifters. 

Research has also shown that women prefer more entertaining forms of weightlifting, where men are content with standard lifting protocols.  So from a personal trainer perspective it is very important to know how to cater workout routines to a specific client to keep their interest and get results.

However imho functional training is way overblown and simply implementing more dumbell work, squats, and deadlifts will achieve many of the same results with a greater gain of strength and muscle mass.

Agreed.  Have you every seen a trainer try to teach a clinet PNF stretching or a PNF Chop?   

Remember...different sells.  If I can tell a client all about the benefits of working in all 3 planes of motion, tell them why sitting down is so bad and how I can fix their bad posture, don't you think they'd listen? 

I think we should merge this thread with the other one.
25  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: What Functional Training Really Is on: December 10, 2007, 10:24:35 PM
i agree with you.

talking exclusively strikers ie boxer, thai, etc, imo they should be extra careful about what they emphasize in their training so they don't develop tight rigid bodies which sap your power and stamina.

for mma competitors or any grappler i still think the strength training should be heavy but explosive compound movements. imo, the deadlift or rack pulls with big weight are the most beneficial because it gives you great explosive strength for shoot and take downs aswell as developing your hips, traps and core for good balance and a strong base to throw from.

i've rarely seen power cleans done right and that's because it requires some skill to perform. imo, they're not worth it. there are other movements out there. add high reps to the equasion and it becomes, not only useless, but dangerous to the joints and back. amazing how many strength and conditioning trainers advocate this though. i refuse to do them and i really don't think i'm missing out.




A deadlift is not really an explosive movement and is purely for strength.  I think the term "powerlifting" is a bit misleading.  A good power definition is:  the time rate at which work is done or energy is transferred.  I don't see the need to use speed to get the bar off the floor in the deadlift or speed to get out of a hole in a squat...it's used, but not like it is in traditional olympic (power) lifts.

I agree that BB Cleans are rarely done properly but I can't understand why you would say that clean are not "worth it" if they are not executed with precise form.  I have plenty of clients perform db cleans, sandbag cleans and med ball cleans at various different rep ranges and I have yet to have a problem.

I think you make many great points and I'm merely trying to foster debate on this topic.
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