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7251  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Britain Adopts Islamic Law, Gives Sharia Courts Full Power to Rule on Civil Case on: September 15, 2008, 06:01:11 PM
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7252  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Britain Adopts Islamic Law, Gives Sharia Courts Full Power to Rule on Civil Case on: September 15, 2008, 05:53:14 PM
Islamic law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.

The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.

Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through county courts or the country's High Court, a part of its Supreme Court system.

Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.

Politicians and church leaders expressed concerns that this could mark the beginnings of a “parallel legal system” based on sharia for some British Muslims.

Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary, said: “If it is true that these tribunals are passing binding decisions in the areas of family and criminal law, I would like to know which courts are enforcing them because I would consider such action unlawful. British law is absolute and must remain so.”

Give it up and move to Canada...let the rags have it all. How depressing......

Goddammit why do islam feel the need to control everything, Britain's legal system is fine, leave it alone. Fuckin pricks.
7253  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: If America were to get a better education on: September 15, 2008, 05:51:11 PM
Better educated Americans would = more successful people.  So therefor, the average political affiliation would slide to the right.



Even though people become better educated, not everyone can start their own companies and make big bucks. There still has to be some sort of middle/working class. Don't you think their increased political awareness would make them lean more to the left? They are more dependent on a welfare system and would therefore demand more than their precious "freedom"?
7254  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / If America were to get a better education on: September 15, 2008, 05:35:13 PM
Which way do you think politics would go?

A general observation from MY PART is that the more educated a population is, the more to the left they become. Not necessarily "commies" as The Coah like to put it but they usually stay away from hardcore neocon-fundamentalist politics.

Why so many people still support Mccain/Palin is because they fail to analyze the situation by themselves and rely on cheap and dirty political smack talk and swallows it like DA from an old man.  Uneducated rednecks basically.

Does the American education system manage to give young children a criticizing world all-american view?
7255  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Let me see if I have this straight (Obama vs. Palin) on: September 15, 2008, 04:16:23 PM
Repost, but still good.
7256  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: MCCAIN and His Weasel gets Pwned. Clueless. on: September 15, 2008, 04:15:22 PM
Obama  the great let the pallin shit just go on and on, and them made some weak statement saying it was wrong. Now he's getting crushed and he's whining like a bitch.

Dude I understand if you're a republican but jesus christ, how much incompetence does it take for you to question the choice of Sara Palin?
7257  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 240 caught wearing women's underwear on: September 15, 2008, 01:22:16 PM
The Coach's nightmare. Attractive but forbidden.
7258  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Who would have thought the end of world would come that fast on: September 15, 2008, 12:45:35 PM
Can Nico please get the fuck out of here..?

Annoying little pussy.
7259  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: i juiced today... on: September 15, 2008, 05:56:03 AM

whats pct i dont understand that...

Oh brother.  Roll Eyes
7260  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Brutal PWnage from Barbra Walters on: September 14, 2008, 05:19:47 PM
He's had cancer 4 times that we know of... and earlier this year had an odd series of band-aids on this head - in those same cancer spots - where he claimed to have bumped his head on the limo door repeatedly.

historically, presidential candidates have lied like crazy about this.  JFK in 60 hid painkilled addiction, hodgkins, and degenerative back condition.  Tsongas in 1992 hid cancer, and has died since.  We'll never know most of the stuff that people hide.

Rob, if someone arranged it, would you say yes to a live open debate with The Coach? Or why not Mccain himself?
7261  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Brutal PWnage from Barbra Walters on: September 14, 2008, 05:01:56 PM
Wow....


Mccain smoked 2 packs a day for 25 years.

He has degenerative arthritis.
He's had cataract surgery.

Also, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, he's
Arthritic, has had Vertigo.

He's on 6 different medications including for
Kidneys, cholesterol, sleep, blood clots.

Quite the cocktail for political stability.
7262  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Question for 240 regarding Obama. on: September 14, 2008, 02:59:01 PM
...no you don't.

As I said, even Jesus would be an atheist if he were alive today... Jesus predicted the end of the world within the first century, so by this stage he'd be pretty sure there is no god. Especially after space exploration has shown that there is neither a sea (as Genesis claims and the ancients believed) nor a heaven in outer space, and that's nothing in comparison to the strides in medical science (no possessing spirits that must be cast out etc)... and biology (the microbe theory of disease etc).

Obama isn't a liar for professing a belief in god... not any more than I am a liar when I profess my belief in Santa Claus in discussion with my seven year old niece.


The Luke  

Ta ta, boooooooom.
7263  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Question for 240 regarding Obama. on: September 14, 2008, 02:28:57 PM
Are you saying he practices Christianity but doesn't actually believe in Christianity?   

Well wopedoo, is it possible to win the election as an atheist? No.

Is that ridiculous? Yes.
7264  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Ronnie's biceps vs. Nasser's biceps over the years. on: September 13, 2008, 01:32:14 PM
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/877076/ronnie_coleman/

Watch this and tell me there's anything whatsoever suspicious about them. You will do exactly that of course but anybody with a little sense can clearly see these calves are not full of oil.

HIS LEGS ARE FUCKIN INSANE IN THAT VIDEO.
7265  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: ROFLMAO COPTER! on: September 12, 2008, 07:59:43 PM
Gosh jeez, and this clown could possibly run USA. Fuckin embarrassing and I'm not even an american.
7266  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: a living nightmare w/ no end in sight-i am driven to maddness every day on: September 12, 2008, 04:34:25 AM
This thread made me laugh quite hard.
7267  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: JASON BOURNE Speaks the TRUTH on Sarah Palin! on: September 12, 2008, 04:19:12 AM
 Really? What about all those poor people with AIDS and other ailments that require expensive medication year-round? Obviously, the money to pay for 99% of their medical expenses is not coming from their pockets, but from other people's pockets.

  The reason why it is unfair is because regardless the government is taking away your money and spending it on other people. Lots of poor people who get universal care are those who need it and wouldn't be able to afford it on their own, so the government steals a little bit of money from everyone and uses a disproportional amount of it on a small percentage of the poor population who has incredible medical bills.

  Even if everyone paid the same for universal health care - which is not the case in many countries where the rich pay far more -, it still would only be fair if everyone had the exact same yearly medical expense, which is not the case. Why should I give $10.000 of my money every year to the government for health care if I am going to use practically none of it and the $10.000 will be used on other people? I could save the money and use it for myself when I got sick and actually needed medical care. The whole thing is a sham. It is robbery, plain and simple. The dowtrodden of the Society should learn to take care of themselves instead of expecting mommy - the upper classes - and daddy - the state - to pay their way through life.

Good god man, have you ever been to a country with universal health care? Trust me, rich people are still rich and everyone pays their fuckin taxes (for the most part). The system with universal health care WORKS in so many countries that is is ridiculous to say otherwise. 10.000$ a year for healthcare? hahhaha you must be nuts. If people were forced to pay that kinda taxes for uni healthcare only, there would be riots and swinging of guillotines before you could say the word "bankrupt".
7268  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The BACK that destroyed Dorian's on: September 12, 2008, 04:07:43 AM
Team Nasser won't recover.
7269  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Alex23 caught buying WEDDING BRIDAL RHINESTONE TIARA HEADBAND G5 on: September 11, 2008, 05:46:31 PM
Alex23 is fuckin massive, gotta give him creds for that.

jtsunami is a fart in the wind.
7270  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: JASON BOURNE Speaks the TRUTH on Sarah Palin! on: September 11, 2008, 05:42:06 PM
 I don't know why this argument went towards universal health care. My posts having nothing to do with universal health care in any way, shape or form. In fact, as a libertarian, I am against universal health care because everyone should pay their own medical bills and not expect others to. The whole argument over universal health care is slly because, ultimately, you will be paying for it either way. The only difference is that in a universal health care system you are allowing the government to decide how to spend your money to take care of your health. Does that make any sense?

Yes an awesome idea, it is working real fine. Really fine to say the least, I mean you only have 50 million people without a health insurance!!
But everyone to their own. We wouldn't want to step on your precious freedom.
7271  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: JASON BOURNE Speaks the TRUTH on Sarah Palin! on: September 11, 2008, 09:34:06 AM
There's a lot of plausible-sounding bullshit being regurgitated as reasoned and informed opinion in this thread...


Some simple FACTS:

America currently ranks 37th for healthcare in the world, it is far from the best healthcare system around.

Infant mortality in the US is comparable to that of non-industrial Third World country.

HMOs are run for PROFIT... that profit costs lives: denial of coverage; denial of service; denial of drugs.

Not for profit government departments are NOT inefficient, they are in fact far more efficient cost-wise than the private sector has ever been... the inefficiencies seen in these fields are caused by chronic underfunding, which in part is promoted by private-sector lobbyists eager to benefit from the privatization of these same sectors.

Statistics for cancer survival rates pushed by small-government Republicans and HMOs (Giuliani just made up the figures he quoted in the Republican debates for example) are patently FALSE!

US cancer survival studies do NOT include:
-the 1% of Americans that are homeless
-the 2-3% of Americans that are illegal immigrants
-the 50 million (16%) of Americans who are not insured
-the huge disparity in life expectancy between whites and minorities (black males don't get cancer as often as they only live to be 58 or so on average)
-the insured who are denied coverage as a profiteering strategy by HMOs


...and the most important FACT of all:
Americans currently pay considerably more per capita (nearly twice) for their 37th best healthcare system in the world than the French pay for their best healthcare system in the world.


Socialised/universal American government funded healthcare WOULD mean a tax increase... but that increase would be something on the order of 20% of what the insured are currently paying in premiums... and for that tax-increase/cost-decrease Americans would get:
-truly universal healthcare
-a first world healthcare system
-treatment for the homeless (mentally-ill homeless cause crime)
-treatment for poor drug addicts (less crime)
-treatment for immigrants (again, less crime)
-considerably less bankruptcy among the middle class
-considerably less divorce/domestic violence/child physical abuse etc as all these things are fueled by monetary pressures such as medical bills

Arguing AGAINST socialised healthcare is just plain ignorant and stooopid.


The Luke

This is the pwnage-hammer right here. I would like to see any republican confront these arguments. Especially the one that says you pay more for a bad healthcare than France does for a top-notch one. Your "I want to keep my money!!" argument just flew right out the window.
7272  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: JASON BOURNE Speaks the TRUTH on Sarah Palin! on: September 11, 2008, 07:37:49 AM
What are those differences?

Well, for one thing, communism has a overwhelming tendency to break apart. It is a nice idea with communism but I just don't think humans are made for it.
7273  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: JASON BOURNE Speaks the TRUTH on Sarah Palin! on: September 11, 2008, 07:26:44 AM
Borderline communism Chimps, he want you and to depend on the Government for everything, he want to dictate where and who my money goes to, he wants to tell me and you what health care system to use and so and so on. I understand the difference but its not much.

Meanwhile 50 million people in the U.S doesn't have health insurance. A great solution indeed Mr. Republican!
7274  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: JASON BOURNE Speaks the TRUTH on Sarah Palin! on: September 11, 2008, 07:20:58 AM
Newsflash: Just because state run healthcare works in Sweeden or Barbados or Luxemburg, doesn't mean it will work in America. America's dense population, humongous amount of illegal immagrints and already existing socialized healthcare program (Medicaid) will make running socialized healthcare impossible, impractical and unbelievably inefficent.

Could you imagine this dysfunctional, partisan, backward government which can't find its own ass with two hands trying to provide guaranteed healthcare for every man, woman and child?

For anyone who wants a picture of what life will be like, go to the DMV at any major American city, go through security at an airport or go down to your local post office. State/federal run institutions are poorly run beauracratic disasters.

The poorest of the poor have healthare thru medicaid. The well to do can afford private insurance. The middle class simply need a boost in the form of a tax break or some government loophole which will enable them to purchase health insurance cheaper.

But really, what is the alternative? Sure you can keep on going with insurance base healthcare and ignore millions of people that can't afford it. But that causes suffering as well.

This medicaid thing is new to me. Are they able to give every poor being healthcare and to what extent? Who pays their bills?
7275  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: JASON BOURNE Speaks the TRUTH on Sarah Palin! on: September 11, 2008, 07:01:51 AM
Why? Because you know that your health care system is having serious problems and you don't want anyone messing up your argument?

Look, Universal Health Care is a bad idea, and I'll explain why.

Let's say you have a gas station, one day you decide your going to give away gas for free, what is going to happen? Your going to have people lining around the block to get your gas whether they need it or not. This is basic supply and demand. Since you have now created unlimited demand, you are unable to keep up the supply. So you have to either: have people wait in line for a long time, deny people gasoline, or do both.

Healthcare is subject to the laws of supply and demand as well. If you make it "free" then you create a huge surge in demand because people have no need to have any discretion. So countries that have this system have to do is have people wait (these countries have huge waiting lists and you know it), or deny people which happens as well. Who do you think gets denied? People that use and need healthcare the most: old people. Since government has complete control over the system, they can deny treatment to anyone they wish and there is nothing the people can do about it (unless they have a shitload of money and can get treated in the US).

Another problem with government run healthcare is that it is run by the government. Government is wasteful and inefficient, they are terrible at providing services compared to the private sector. This is mainly because if your a private organization and your inefficient and wasteful then you go bankrupt! If government is inefficient and wasteful it is rewarded with more tax dollars, so it encourages general shittiness.

If you look at cancer survival rates among American's and countries, you'll find that America is on the top. American men have a 5 year survival rate of 66 percent versus 47 percent for European men (http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba596/) This is because American men have more treatment options and are treated faster than European men. This is because American men aren't denied treatment and American men are treated much faster than European men, and yes ALL American men are treated, nobody is denied treatment in the US, even illegal aliens.

You're right about a few things. Yes, sometimes the waiting lists can get long. Yes the goverment are awful at doing business. Cool that the U.S has the best cancer survival %.

The supply and demand argument really doesn't have any credibility behind it. People don't become hypocondric just because there is universal healthcare. When people are sick, they ARE sick. And I would like to claim that universal healthcare does a much better job at preventing sickness than a insurance based does.

Why don't you look at the classic list over % of infant deaths? U.S is close the the bottom and I think you'll find my country in the top 2. A list that is considered by many to be a true testament to the overall health in a country.

Oh and wait. isn't there like 50 MILLION people in the U.S without a health insurance. I guess they're not important, who cares if they get sick. As long it doesn't cost anyone more dollars. You whine about waiting lists, well 50 million people in the U.S doesn't even have a list to be put on.
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