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Are you going to ask me for the "truth" again ...Woodward and Bernstein, or just cry and whine about how "good "i am at the internet ? 

You are a fat blob of shit who always has a typical fat man's response as to why he is a fat fuck..."i hurt my foot" waaaaaaah   

Judge delays decision on Zimmerman money

 Source: CNN

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer accused of wrongly killing Trayvon Martin, will not immediately have to turn over donations to his website, a Florida judge said Friday.
 
Zimmerman collected about $204,000 in donations through the website, but did not disclose the contributions during his bond hearing last week, according to Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara.
 
Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda asked Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. to increase Zimmerman's $150,000 bond. But the judge said he would delay ruling on the request, in part because he does not know if he has the authority to do so.
 
Lester said he is also concerned about revealing the names of donors.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/27/justice/florida-zimmerman-money/index.html

he's an obama supporter.   who appears to beat women.  who manages to catch minors who try to run away from him.

I hadn't caught the fact that in addition to all of this - Trayvon RAN AWAY and was long gone.  Zimm self-appointed himself to track him down.  THEN the confrontation happened.

That looks WORLDS worse for zimmerman now. 

put them together.  anytime there's a fight and you have zero witnesses, you have to look at the CIRCUMSTANCES and EVIDENCE.

No witness saw trayvon nor zimm start the fight.
The only physical and eyewitness evidence is "Zimm was losing the fight".

So you look at circumstances.  If X pursued Y, and I"m a juror, I'd say there's a greater chance X was the aggressor.
if X lived on other side of park, and Y lived here on this street, I'd wonder what the hell X is doing on this street and assign greater probability to X being aggressor.
if X was packing a 9mm and Y was unarmed, I'd guess X felt way more cocky and aggressive and confident of a win.

What was trayvon doing to 'act like' the aggressor, besides winning the fucking fight once they were on the ground?

he was walking home, unarmed, with the destination on that street.  If you think the signs point to zimm being an innocent bystander, I dunno what to tell you.  I think jurors will disagree.

again, please prove me wrong - NO EYEWITNESSES SAW WHO STARTED THE FIGHT.

Bottom line - and if i'm wrong, please provide evidence....

There is no evidence either man actually started the fight - only zimmerman's word.

Withnesses saw him losing a fight, but NOBODY saw the initial attack, who attacked who. 

okay, we are on the same page here.

The prosecutor can't prove what happened in those initial 5 seconds when TM met GZ and it got physical.  And that's a common thing when you have two dudes fighting and nobody knows who started it.   So that's why I said it's a coin flip to begin with.  Then the jury will have to look at the factors before the fight occured.  

Who was following who?
Who had a weapon?
Who lived on that street, who did not?
Were they both adults?
Did EITHER person have any reason to want to confront the other person?

Trayvon was unarmed, had a destination on that road, was a minor being followed by a person who mistook him for someone who stole a bike from him.
Zimm had an ax to grind, a gun in his pants, was the only adult here, and didn't live on that damn street. he was recorded following TM.

These factors, in my opinion, make that 50/50 jury coin flip look a lot different.

I'm saying there is no evidence of who attacked who, to the best of my knowledge.  if there is no GF testimony, it's just zimmerman's words.

Can we all agree the only evidence of who STARTED THE PHYSICAL FIGHT is zimmerman's words?   yes or no?

Aside from Zimm's own self-serving words...

what other witness claims they saw trayvon doing the attacking?  Link please?

I thought the only witness testimonies was that they all looked out once the fight was already on the ground.  Nobody saw it start.  the only witnesses were Tm's GF on the phone, and zimm himself.   Is that 'what we know'?   Or is there another witness?

  I can sympathize with 240's perspective here. If someone starts tailing me in my neighborhood for no reason and asks me what I'm doing there, I'm gonna get heated. I wouldn't attack the guy and slam his head into the curb--if that's what Treyvon did--but I'd be irritated.

which part do i have wrong?

yeah, agreed.

No matter what the history of the place was, Trayvon was just a kid walking home from buying candy.   Making a direct beeline for his house.  He "looked like" people who had been robbing places, but he wasn't.   He was on the phone chatting with his girl and walking to her house.  He was a block away.

It's a shitty set of circumstances, but I think we all know ZImm probably just should have stayed in his truck.... as he told the police 911 dispatcher that he would do.  He said he'd meet them at the mailbox.  Instead, he took his gun and he followed a kid for 2 blocks and asked him 'what are you doing here'.

I dunno, if it's dark, and you're walking home, and after 2 blocks of some stranger with a gun following you - he suddenly approaches you - shit, i think everyone here would be ready to fight.   ZImmerman may have let that gun bulge show... lol "keltec 9 mm"  piece of shit.

You say this: "...as to what happenned which we will never truly know." then you go on to say this:
-"The whole incident would have been prevented if Zimmerman..."
-"The incident was created by Zimmerman..."
      *If no one will never know what truly happened Vince, how do you know the statements above are true?

Moreover, if he is smart...he will NOT take a plea bargain (and he won't) because the chances of him getting convicted are slim to none. 

Additionally, you state: "...he's going to face federal charges of violating Trayvon's civil rights."  This will not happen either, but humor us....what evidence do you have that leads you to make such a statement?

Burglar? What had he stolen and how did Zimmerman know he had stolen?

Anyway, Zimmerman had no legal right to detain anyone and in fact if you detain anyone while you are in a possesion of a gun that is legally considered kidnapping as far fetched as that sounds it is by law. This is all going to boil down to this, did Zimmerman do anything to provoke this kid.

Not a spelling contest ####.

Who's defending him? I'm just pointing out that this kid was no angel.

And answer the question only 240 had the balls to answer....if you are flat on your back with some strange guy on top of you(I know its the beginning of an erotic night for some posters here but....) And he's already punched you in the face and is now slamming your head on the concrete and you have a gun.....what do you do? And before anyone says anything else, this is all that matters cause if that zimmerguy "lost" Treyvon like he said that means Treyvon came back...meaning Treyvon would have been the aggressor.

So many facts still tucked away by the police, there is a reason he wasn't arrested, there were witnesses. Think about it people!

hannity played the tape.  The 911 operator told him NOT to chase.  Then he did it anyway.  At the very least, he disobeyed a police order.  Charge him with impeding a police investigation and get to the bottom of what happened, ya know?  

To me, there are 2 things that piss me off with this case.  1) He immediately claimed that "stand your ground" law, which opened the door for obama to shit on that law.  Hw as actively chasing the dude.  SEcond, the police TOLD HIM not to pursue, because they were close.  He DISOBEYED.  

Bu bu bu bu but gh15 said NO ONE can be 6'2 220 and 5%!!!!!!!!

Doesn't YouTube allow users to upload/download, share music/videos etc with each other and the viewers? Then what makes MegaUpload so different to have the owners prosecuted with copyright infringement looking an upward of 10-20yrs in jail?

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