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1  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 03:16:41 PM
I've not ignored his comments.  I.have used them in many of my posts explaining that there were reasons for why he said them.   Perhaps that's another thing you are ignoring....how I have put them in my reponses

Have you taken into consideration any of Moore's other comments?   See Straws post.

I've made Bum my bitch so many times that he knows he's better off ignoring me than getting his ass handed to him again.

2  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 01:50:20 PM
I labeled him a hypocrite because that's what he is.  You're the one inserting your own definitions, claiming he has to be a communist before we can call him a hypocrite.  I guess that's one way to look at it, but it doesn't make sense to me.

I haven't demonized him.  I didn't call him a bad person.  I didn't fault him for making money.  I have no problem with him making bank.  He's just a hypocrite and all the poor saps who buy his product helped him profit off the very system he condemned.  The irony is strong. 

yes, because you've shown that Moore has stated he is opposed to private ownership of property

right?
3  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 01:20:32 PM
Its comical how California liberal dolts like ozmo straw buy into this bullshit hook line and sinker

Hey Closet Queen,

Learn to read or even better yet just stick to posting about how much you wish Obama was gay
I don't have access to the movie online and I don't necessarily agree with Moore's blanket statement but it's also a snip of a quote and I don't have the full context.  If you have a longer clip then please post it.

I found this quote which I think (don't know for sure) is also from the film and may even follow the "evil" statement

It doesn't sound to me like he has any problem with PRIVATE OWNERSHIP or real property or businesses and we know he has no problem with some forms of capitalism such as making movies and selling tickets to those movies.

Given that, I see no hypocrisy at all in owning a bunch of real estate.
4  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 01:12:48 PM
are they taking it out of context?

i'm honestly asking. 

do you see any context or anything following that statement (such as the quote I posted)

do you see him say anything against private ownership of real property or businesses?

after all, it's the fact that he owns real estate that the Faux News people are trying to claim is hypocrisy

what would truly be hypocrisy is if Moore had his millions invested with Goldman Sachs instead of in real estate
5  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 12:55:12 PM
No Straw, lets ignore Michael Moore's other statements, and instead cherry pick ones that we can use to support a charge of hypocrisy even if those cherry picked statements do little to show a hypocrisy.

Let's then also ignore his actual criticism of capitalism and just ignorantly assume that any criticism he makes against capitalism means he totally against capitalism. 

Just me criticizing the San Francisco 49'ers but also wearing a 49'er baseball cap.

Sound logic for the easily manipulated unthinking masses. 

even funnier is Faux News taking this one snip out of context and then trying to make a story out of whole cloth about Moore being a hyporcite

how the fuck is this nonsense considered "news" in the first place
6  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama trying to get Impeached on: Today at 12:29:38 PM
I think the thread is proof that Coach is trying to have someone intervene on his behalf and help him find some mental health care
7  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 12:28:00 PM
he literally said in his documentary verbatim, "capitalism is evil.  and you cannot regulate evil"  how else can you possibly interpret that?


I don't have access to the movie online and I don't necessarily agree with Moore's blanket statement but it's also a snip of a quote and I don't have the full context.  If you have a longer clip then please post it.

I found this quote which I think (don't know for sure) is also from the film and may even follow the "evil" statement

Quote
"What I'm asking for is a new economic order," he says. "I don't know how to construct that. I'm not an economist. All I ask is that it have two organising principles. Number one, that the economy is run democratically. In other words, the people have a say in how its run, not just the 1%. And number two, that it has an ethical and moral core to it. That nothing is done without considering the ethical nature, no business decision is made without first asking the question, is this for the common good?"

It doesn't sound to me like he has any problem with PRIVATE OWNERSHIP or real property or businesses and we know he has no problem with some forms of capitalism such as making movies and selling tickets to those movies.

Given that, I see no hypocrisy at all in owning a bunch of real estate.
8  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 12:23:05 PM
and sorry but I still GUARANTEE you that Michael Moore's income was not based solely upon the net income of the venture.  you're pointing to the fact that PART of his compensation was.  and yes I agree that part of his compensation was.  but again, i'll say it.  I GUARANTEE YOU that his income was not solely based on the net income of the venture. 

I don't disagree at all with that claim

I assume you understand that this is not what you said before and in fact is almost completely contrary to what you said before (i.e. that his compensation was not based upon the net income of the venture)

Why didn't you just make that clarification before instead of trying to defend your original statement?

9  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: Today at 10:06:00 AM
the premise that started this thread was that Michael Moore makes a shit ton of money lambasting people who make A SHIT TON OF MONEY.

then you started in saying that he spends his own money and that he LOSES money on his films.  

all i'm saying is that you're wrong.  and you are.  come on the guys is worth over $50 million.  he makes sure that when he signs his contracts with the film companies that me makes damn sure that he makes millions when all is said and done.  

if his film loses money he doesn't lose money.  he still gets paid.  come on.

and i did post a article from a ridiculous rag in my haste to prove you wrong.  oops.  i actually just read the whole thing.  wow.  yeah i'm stupid.  

but even a stupid guy like me knows i'm right about this.  



Wrong again, as usual

Let's review:

The false premise that started this thread was that Moore is a hypocrite because he owns 9 homes.
As I said in my first post on this thread that Just because he criticizes the criminality of Wall Street and has issues with income inequality, wealth disparity, etc. doesn't make him "anti-capitalist"

I also pointed out that you and everyone else actually has to pay money to see one of his movies and then merely pointed out that his Capitalism movie actually lost money so he failed at that capitalist experiment

Then Coach jumped in and claimed that the Moore still made a lot of money on the film.  Of course I never said that Moore didn't receive a salary (though who really knows) and Coach was never able to prove that Moore made "lots of money or any money on this film and that's where you decided to go off on a tangent

Then you jumped in with the idiotic claim that Moore does not share in the financial success of his films

or as you put it

I guarantee you..........GUARANTEE you that Michael Moore's compensation was not based upon the net income of the venture.  

then I showed you examples of where he did in fact receive compensation based on the net income of his venture (which is common practice in that industry). Remember the deal for Sicko actually mentioned "profits" and Fahrenheit 911 mentioned net revenues which was described as 50% of ticket sales less marketing, production and distribution expenses which I pointed either means that they have a different definition of net revenue in that industry or the author just used the wrong term because clearly he received a compensation based on net revenue (i.e 50% of ticket sales) less expenses.

All the time I kept pointing out that this little side battle you chose to start was not only false but had nothing to do with Bum's other false premise on which he started this thread

10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Liberals Explode Over “Straight White Guy Festival” on: July 28, 2014, 10:09:42 PM



yes, I was already aware you are retarded
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Liberals Explode Over “Straight White Guy Festival” on: July 28, 2014, 09:28:22 PM
Congratulations on learning to take a joke for the very first time!  Cheesy

you made a joke?
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Liberals Explode Over “Straight White Guy Festival” on: July 28, 2014, 09:17:01 PM
Hell yeah... Straw Man just shit himself!!  Cheesy
Maybe you'd like to take this outside?

LOL

13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Liberals Explode Over “Straight White Guy Festival” on: July 28, 2014, 02:39:32 PM
I've never seen someone take the bait as hard as you just did in this thread.

By your responses I'm guessing that you must be a gay black female?

you obviously need to get out more

when I see someone lying I ask them about it

14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Liberals Explode Over “Straight White Guy Festival” on: July 28, 2014, 12:22:33 PM
Lmao

Can you imagine what america would be like without straight white men? Aside from not existing in the first place...it would be a third world country. The world NEEDS straight white men, and every other group (aside from maybe asians) know it, and it makes them furious Grin

you have a vivid imagination

I assume you'll be the keynote speaker
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Liberals Explode Over “Straight White Guy Festival” on: July 28, 2014, 11:25:34 AM
Typical liberal.

Asking questions.

Accept it to be true.

LOL
16  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Americans wish they voted for Romney by 11 points on: July 28, 2014, 11:16:56 AM
Does anyone remember when Obama was leading in the polls in 2012 and Repubs felt the need to "unskew" the polls and then of course when the polls turned in Romneys favor there was suddenly no need to "unskew" them anymore

The only poll that matters is the one taken on election day
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Liberals Explode Over “Straight White Guy Festival” on: July 28, 2014, 10:58:54 AM
haha... settle down, looks like you're exploding over this!  Cheesy

how is merely asking you a question "exploding"

you're the one that made the claim in the title of the thread and I simply asked you about it
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Liberals Explode Over “Straight White Guy Festival” on: July 28, 2014, 10:10:34 AM
Cheesy

Liberals Explode Over “Straight White Guy Festival” In Ohio

By Steve Straub On July 27, 2014 · 361 Comments · In US

This is clearly meant as sarcasm, but it does raise a valid point. Why is every group allowed to have a “pride” or “ethnic celebration” day except Caucasians?



Goodale Park is the home to an ever growing number of festivals, including the Gay Pride Parade and ComFest.

But a flyer that’s gone up around Clintonville is sending a less inclusive message.

It’s promoting the Straight White Guy Festival. It claims the festival will be held in Goodale Park in September.

Several pictures of the flyers tacked on telephone poles were posted on Twitter.

In a community where the push for equality is on full display, not everyone appreciates the message.

Read more: http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/liberals-explode-over-straight-white-guy-festival-in-ohio

where are the "liberals exploding"?

your link has no mention of it other than the title
19  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 28, 2014, 09:54:46 AM
Spot on again. 

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2knH8obnF4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2knH8obnF4</a>

Nope

Just repeating your same false premise does not suddenly make it true

20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: physique's and crossover careers. on: July 27, 2014, 10:30:04 AM
diver
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsshwg2vulg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsshwg2vulg</a>

the platform dive at ~ 1:50 was painful to watch


21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: early 80,s pics of jersey/diamond gym bodybuilders on: July 26, 2014, 11:21:34 AM
nick

I didn't know that Nick passed away a couple of years ago

http://articles.elitefts.com/training-articles/farewell-nick-lavitola/

22  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 25, 2014, 08:24:08 PM
Lol everyone keep in mind that Strawman is the same guy who claimed last year that "the majority of NRA members were for obama's gun control legislation".

This is the mind you guys are trying to argue with.
He will literally defend ANY Leftist talking point no matter how ridiculous

If you are going to attribute a quote to me (note your use of quotation marks) then post my actual quote.
I have no idea what you're referring to but I'm guessing I said something to the effect the NRA member support some forms of modest gun control legislation and I very likely had a link to support my statement

so go find my quote if you want attribute some statement to me

23  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 25, 2014, 08:04:22 PM
The Daily Currant is a satirical news website.

LOL
24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Two Old Farts talk about the Good Old Days on: July 25, 2014, 03:22:31 PM
And just like on the poli board. You change the subject.

and just like any board you post on you're a certified moron

my post was a direct reply to your post

if you don't like it then you should stay on topic next time
25  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Liberal Hypocrisy on: July 25, 2014, 02:52:49 PM
straw i'm an accountant. what you are saying is absolutely wrong.  you can futz around with your wording and fool a bunch of drunk college kids but not a practicing CPA.  SALES RETURNS AND ALLOWANCES are NOT the amounts they pay to the theaters.   and the author of the article has it wrong as well, which is why you made the mistake.  Net Revenues is NEVER defined as sales less commissions, or anything else.  it is always defined as exactly how YOU defined it.  sales less returns and allowances.

your problem is that you are relying on the accounting knowledge of some author who doesn't know the first thing about accounting.  I also know enough to know that people like Michael Moore don't get into deals to make movies unless they KNOW that they will be compensated well.  Maybe at the beginning of their career they use some of their own money and take risks.  but at the point he made this movie it's nothing less than silly to think he wasn't in a deal to make a shit load of GUARANTEED MONEY.

the bottom line is this guy makes tons of money by convincing college kids who know nothing about the world that they are owed something they don't have to earn.  and it works.



Like I previously wrote, it's pretty clear that "net revenue" has another meaning in the movie biz since it appears to  come after a bunch of expenses are deducted, including the cost of production.  Either that or the author used the wrong term because he explicitly detailed how Moore's 27% was calculated and it wasn't calculated on the 130 million that was left over after the theater owners took their share but on the 80 million left after "expenses" were deducted 

the bottom line is that Moore absolutely makes income from the profits of the film or the "net income of the venture" as you put it.

If you want to debate semantics that is fine but that is still the bottom line

Again, completely contrary to you guarantee to me that "Michael Moore's compensation was not based upon the net income of the venture."

again, completely irrelevant to to the false premise that started this thread
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