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1  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama is a utter disgrace and needs to resign his office asap on: Today at 10:55:49 AM
not only that... but when over a third of the nation already supports impeachment, and 33 has yelled about it since 2010...

Suddenly, overnight, he backs off impeachment because "it may give us more seats in congress".

and obama's back up to 42% on gallup.  unreal.

yeah, because we always do what a third of the country wants to do

I remember when McCain won the election with a third of the vote

I remember when Congress outlawed abortion with a 33% "majority"

fuck the other 67%  - no one cares what they want
2  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama is a utter disgrace and needs to resign his office asap on: Today at 10:44:55 AM
different day and the same bullshit in our right wing echo chamber

it seems you guys expect the POTUS to comment immediately on everything (and of course if he did you would condemn him for speaking, say talk it cheap,etc..)

the day before the Bin Laden raid he was cracking jokes at the Correspondents dinner

none of us have any idea what is going on behind the scenes but of course that doesn't stop our resident mental patient on his daily rant

Reagan was on vacation at his ranch when the US shot down a Iranian airliner and he didn't comment on it for 4 days

3  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ISIS Jihadists: Once you've Beheaded Someone for Fun, Where Do You Stop? on: August 19, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
LMFAO!! Ha Ha Ha!!!!!
4  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama focus on Illegals angering Black Americans - LMFAO!! Ha Ha Ha!!!!! on: August 19, 2014, 11:19:53 AM
It is funny.  Blacks lined up to vote for Obama like he was the cult messiah of all time and what does he do - cut black peoples' legs out from under them and yet they still worship him. 

LMFAO!! Ha Ha Ha!!!!!
5  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama focus on Illegals angering Black Americans - LMFAO!! Ha Ha Ha!!!!! on: August 19, 2014, 11:17:26 AM
LMFAO!! Ha Ha Ha!!!!!
6  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Wingnut scams the troops: How Tea Party quack uses fake charities to get rich on: August 19, 2014, 09:52:40 AM
Moore, Gore, Obama, et al have all made millions suckering liberals into buying the books, movies, etc too.  Same shit

and like I said, if you had an example of something as egregious as what Russo is doing then it would be a ten page thread and you and others would be demanding that liberals explain/defend, etc...

I assume you heard about this already so why didn't you make a thread about it

was it because you couldn't find a way to blame Obama?
7  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Wingnut scams the troops: How Tea Party quack uses fake charities to get rich on: August 19, 2014, 09:44:23 AM
Same shit on the left.   

if so, like I said, this page would be ten pages by now and you would have started the thread with LMAO!!!!

still crickets from everyone else

I wonder if Fox News has covered this ?

8  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Wingnut scams the troops: How Tea Party quack uses fake charities to get rich on: August 19, 2014, 09:32:37 AM
Guy is a sleazebag and a thief - what is there to discuss. 

That's a good start

If this were a liberal group that did this the thread would be ten pages long and you'd be having one of your classic meltdowns

aside from the scandal regarding donations to the military how about the Tea Party Express collecting millions from dipshits and spending most of that money in "fees" to the it's founder.

how about the cottage industry of the right wing scamming their fellow conservatives (think Glen Beck, Newt Gingrich, etc..)

9  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Wingnut scams the troops: How Tea Party quack uses fake charities to get rich on: August 19, 2014, 08:59:40 AM
What a surprise that none of our resident teabaggers have anything to say about this
10  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 04:54:29 PM
good to know youre against "assault rifle" bans like the one in NY and other types like the one in Chicago.


11  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 04:27:39 PM
just a question, I have never heard you condemn chicagos ban or new yorks "assault rifle" ban is all.

am I to understand you are against those?

I have never heard you condemn NAMBLA

Tony - you can go research my quotes on guns and you'll probably find something to the effect of me being for background checks for all sales, registration, required training, against high capacity clips, etc..

that's off the top of my head.  I've never advocated banning all guns or anything close

12  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 04:15:47 PM
Actually Im fairly sure I have made many a discouraging statement towards pedos....

so youre saying you would stand up and fight against banning guns?

feel free to search my quotes on gun control measures on this board or not

I don't really care

Apparently you don't really pay attention to what I say and would just rather imagine what I believe
13  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 04:11:13 PM
I understand what youre saying, what Im saying is it isnt a fair comparison.

and not the argument against gun control does not sit solely with the fact that gun laws dont prevent gun crimes in the vast majority of cases.

There are plenty of other reasons to be against gun control. INCLUDING the fact that they harm law abiding citizens.

I know you havent explicitly said so but I dont think you would have a problem with it at all if that was the case.

LOL - I know you haven't said it explicitly but I don't think you would have a problem with pedophelia

Sheesh the discourse on this board is joke
14  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 02:22:57 PM
Exactly. Heres your answer, straw.

that's not an answer

You said all we have to do it "take the gangs out of the picture, and all these murders wouldnt happen"

great so tell us how you would do that

15  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 12:48:15 PM
They wouldn't listen.  Without an external reason for the violence, the people of Chicago would be required to be responsible for their community.

Well maybe John can tell us how he would "take gangs out of the picture" and maybe the plan will make it's way back to Chicago
16  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 12:35:43 PM
Its not 'gun violence' , its 'gang violence'.

Take the guns out of the picture, and the gangs would still murder people.
Take the gangs out of the picture, and all these murders wouldnt happen. The guns would just sit there and do nothing as they are inanimate objects

sounds like you've got it all figured out

why are you wasting your time here?

why aren't you offering your keen insights to the people in Chicago?
17  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 12:11:29 PM
I don't understand the comparison you've made.   The purpose is to demonstrate that gun bans don't work as intended.

no shit they don't work

I guess if you ban guns in a city that there is simply no way to get a gun into that city

I'm shocked.  I assumed they built a 40 foot wall around the city and everyone who comes and goes is stripped searched

btw - we've had this same thread (about gun violence in Chicago) about 50 times on this board already
18  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 11:54:46 AM
You don't seem to understand the difference between gun laws and the crime of murder.   One is meant to prevent the act  while the other is punishing an act that has already happened.   Very different.

I understand it

just pointing out the typical meme on this board

what is the purpose of this thread in the first place?
19  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 11:51:53 AM
Hey idiot - murder laws are not meant to deter murder - they are to punish the act itself. 

and gun control legislation is meant to deter criminals and mentally ill people from getting their hands on guns

btw - how many threads have we had about banning various things like baseball bats, shovels, cars, lakes, etc..

Isn't that the standard method here to conflate legislation to control something to banning it altogether
20  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Wingnut scams the troops: How Tea Party quack uses fake charities to get rich on: August 18, 2014, 11:49:44 AM
I assume our right wing posters are already aware of this story as it's been in the "liberal media" the past few weeks.
I guess it makes sense the teabaggers would be susceptible to getting scammed just by looking at the intelligence levels of their representatives

http://www.salon.com/2014/08/06/wingnut_scams_the_troops_how_tea_party_quack_uses_fake_charities_to_get_rich/

ProPublica (source of story):  http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/05/exclusive-pro-troop-charity-pays-off-tea-party-cronies-instead.html

Wingnut scams the troops: How Tea Party quack uses fake charities to get rich
Meet Sal Russo, the man accused of running a faux veterans charity and Tea Party PAC -- to shadily pocket millions
HEATHER DIGBY PARTON

One of the more amusing aspects of the right-wing freakout over the former chief IRS jackbooted thug Lois Lerner – and her battalion of brown-shirted CPAs allegedly putting the strong arm on the poor little Tea Party groups — is the extent to which so much of right-wing “activism” is made up of professional grifters who really are defrauding the government (but, more important, defrauding grass-roots conservatives themselves). You’d think they’d be grateful that somebody is trying to put a stop to this thievery, but no. They’d rather line the pockets of a cynical right-wing flim-flam artist than pay the bills for the military, the roads, the untainted meat and the police protection they all enjoy.

Yesterday, I wrote about the resurgence of the Abramoff con game down in Alabama. Now Pro Publica exposes yet another scam from one of the right wing’s most prolific scammers, a man named Sal Russo. In an act of chutzpah that’s aggressive even by conservative hustler standards, Russo is accused of making millions by skimming large sums of money from his veteran’s charity called Move America Forward. According to the report, his group has been bilking large sums from Americans who contribute to the charity for the purpose of sending care packages to troops overseas. The investigation shows that while they routinely steal other charities’ photos and letters from grateful soldiers and use phony documents and fake affiliations in their nonstop email fundraising, whatever care packages they do produce are actually full of donated goods prepared by volunteers. Most of the money goes to “overhead” otherwise known as the pockets of the principles in Move America Forward.

But in perhaps the most egregious abuse of Americans’ patriotic commitment to support the troops, Move America Forward dishonestly represented itself as a partner with Walter Reed Army hospital in order to sucker its donors into sending money to help wounded vets. Needless to say, Walter Reed knew nothing of this so-called partnership. Interviews did verify that a one-time shipment of care packages was sent but that was the extent of it.

This is a very cruel fraud that goes right to the heart of the conservative movement. Their adoration for the military, especially wounded vets, is fundamental to their ideology.  In light of their recent breast beating over the VA delays and mismanagement, this is also embarrassing. The righteous insistence that those abuses would never happen in the private sector looks a little less compelling when you see how these right-wing rackets use the plight of veterans and lonely soldiers to fatten their own wallets.

But this is actually nothing new.  Going all the way back to the 1980s, none other than the Godfather of Wingnuttia, Jesse Helms, used his so-called nonprofit to push conservative politics and avoid paying taxes. According to the Washington Post in 1994:

Throughout the 1980s, Sen. Jesse Helms (R-N.C.) and the nonprofit Coalition for Freedom were synonymous. Helms, as honorary chairman, touted the group in promotional materials as a small but effective vehicle for telling the public about free enterprise, government waste, communism and media bias.

But sometime recently Helms abruptly and quietly broke off the relationship. The split came after many of the Raleigh-based group’s practices were questioned by the Internal Revenue Service in an ongoing tax case that has challenged the legality of some of the interlocking fund-raising organizations that once formed Helms’s financial power base.

Two years ago, the IRS revoked the Coalition for Freedom’s tax-exempt status after agents concluded that the group between 1985 and 1987 had illegally participated in political activities and improperly benefited private individuals who are connected to conservative causes. …

Yes, then as now, they were ripping off their supporters for fun and profit. And their supporters never seem to tire of being ripped off.

But Move America Forward’s Sal Russo’s various “enterprises” are truly spectacular. In fact, he’s something of a grifter savant. Based in California, he got his start in the Reagan for governor campaign back in 1966 and he’s never looked back. He was involved in various Republican Party activities as a strategist and media consultant for decades, but he came to national attention during the Bush years when he spearheaded the Gray Davis recall campaign. Out of that came Move America Forward, which he parlayed into fundraising for trips to Iraq with Gold Star Mothers and various other high-profile activities related tangentially to the war effort (such as campaigns to malign Michael Moore’s “Fahrenheit 451″ and smear the antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan). His group still holds a yearly MAF fundraiser called “Troopathon,” which has featured guests Gary Sinise, Jon Voight, Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Miller, Ted Nugent, Pat Sajak, Buzz Aldrin, Mike Huckabee, Gene Simmons and John Ratzenberger, a veritable who’s who of conservative C-list celebrities.

(Pro Publica contacted Sinese’s representatives to find out if he was concerned about the fact he was raising money from small donors to enrich some con artists’ shady shell game. His people said he’d been invited by a Gold Star Mother and that was all he knew about it. As with so many other conservatives, it would appear he’d rather pretend to support the troops by enabling hucksters than by paying taxes so that the government can properly care for them.)

Sal Russo isn’t content with ripping off the troops and their supporters, however. In 2008, he saw the potential for the con of a lifetime and he started a group called the Tea Party Express. I’m sure you’ve heard of it. He formed this group as a PAC instead of a nonprofit so it didn’t come under IRS scrutiny in the same way as the other groups, although that hasn’t stopped TPE from fundraising off of the scandal. They’re best known for their traveling bus tours, Fox News sponsorship and their racist spokesman. But that doesn’t mean it hasn’t also been up to the usual tricks:

The Tea Party Express, a PAC run out of Sacramento by longtime Republican consultant Sal Russo, has paid Russo’s firm $2.75 million since the beginning of 2013, while donating just $45,000 to candidates and spending less than $162,000 on ads and bus tours supporting their election.

Russo explained that this was misleading because he got more bang for his buck by not doing TV ads and that he had lots of expenses on his credit card. Seriously.

And yet conservatives insist the IRS was being unusually hard on Tea Party groups by suggesting that they might be worth an extra look. They must be playing the refs. After all, now that they’ve literally made a federal case out of it, what average IRS employee would dare flag them for anything? And sadly, they probably won’t flag any bogus Support the Troops “charities” either. Imagine what these crazy people would do with that
21  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 11:39:49 AM
Problem is banning murder doesn't effect law abiding citizens...banning guns does

just saying murder laws don't seem to deter murderers so what's the point of even doing anything to try to stop it

isn't that the argument against any form of gun control legislation

btw - I've never advocated "banning guns"
22  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 11:38:02 AM
They are the ones 100% responsible for creating these chicago/detroit type circumstances.

 And im sure the people in these areas are all voting conservative Roll Eyes

Lmao id bet my life if you looked at the voting records for this area it prob went 98% for obama.

feel free to elaborate
23  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 10:52:15 AM
Obama voters aka lib idiots are the criminals not tea party white guys

spoken like a true mental patient
24  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 10:29:18 AM
Just ban libs and everything would improve Grin

I guess you think "libs" are doing all the shootings in Chicago
25  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago on: August 18, 2014, 09:23:15 AM
apparently murder laws don't work either

I guess we should just not do anything

what other choice do we have ?
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