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20026  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens on: May 07, 2009, 08:34:50 AM
so u think that former drug addicts who speak out on the issue and former criminals who make a point to lead kids in a different direction are all just hypocrites who are tryin to make a buck?  or again are you just palin bashing because you feel that you can?  

look.  everyone makes mistakes.  if you sit around and demonize everyone who makes mistakes in life well you're just an asshole.  are you a parent?  i bet you're not otherwise you wouldnt be so quick to pick on another parent's kids and be an armchair qb to palins parenting job.  because when you become a parent you realize how hard a job that it is.  and for the record anyone who blames al gore for his kids indiscretions is an asshole too.  its easy to sit here and call public figures hypocrites when you're personal business is not discussed on an internet board for the whole world to see.  you can sit back and let everyone assume that you've NEVER done anything wrong.

im not saying that teaching kids about safe sex is a bad idea either.  i just jumped on here when i see posters ridiculing abstinence programs.  especially posters who dont have kids.  im not sitting here tellin people not to teach their kids safe sex.  i think everyone should.  but i also think abstinence is a good route as well.  in my personal opinion, a better route.  

i'll end with this.  as long as we have 2 people having sex who dont love eachother,  we will have unwanted pregnancies and a shitload of abortions.  neither of which is good for our kids.

I think former drug addict criminals, etc.. are perfect examples of what not to do but I don't thing teen sexual activity is the same thing.

Most people can overcome the urge to use drugs (assuming they are not already addicted) or commiting a crime but the urge to have sex is overwhelming and a natural and normal part of life

I might have a shred of respect for Bristol Palin if she went back to her original statement on Fox news that abstinence is not realistic and at least say that if you can't abstain then at least use a frigging condom.   This abstinence only thing is just putting your head in the sand and ignoring the reality
20027  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens on: May 07, 2009, 08:30:25 AM
guarantee you that bidens and gores kids tell people not to use drugs.

really - maybe they should contact Palins publicist because I've never seen either of them in the news on a daily basis talking about it
20028  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens on: May 07, 2009, 08:22:52 AM
heres another shot of common sense for you.  your kid wont be responsible with condoms once he/she starts having sex.  if you deny that you're just naive.

really ? so you're saying once kids have sex they won't actually have the willpower to use a condom to prevent pregnancy and disease but somehow they will have the willpower to actually not have sex

Aside from that I don't even agree with your premise.   I would guess that there are plenty of sexually active teens and adults who are smart enough to not fuck up their lives and do actually use condoms.   Maybe the reason we don't see them on TV is because they don't have kids or STD's.   The "dog that didn't bark" is not a very compelling story
20029  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens on: May 07, 2009, 08:14:50 AM
guarantee you that bidens and gores kids tell people not to use drugs.

I wonder why I haven't seen them on all over the morning tv shows trying to make a career out of their own personal failures?
20030  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens on: May 07, 2009, 08:07:12 AM
they are an advocate of pro life and she took the responsibility of having the child and not killing it and calling it a day.   there are a lot of states that have laws in place where she could have had it "taken care of" without her parents ever knowing about it and this thread wouldn't exist.  are you going to give her credit for that?  well wait since shes associated with the GOP you're only going to bash her for what she did wrong.  and would you rather a person who never had sex preach on abstinence?  thats like having drug counselors at a rehab facility who never did drugs.  how the hell could any addict relate to that.  your point is not well thought out.  you're obviously just looking to bash a palin because shes a palin.

so you think that they shouldn't preach abstinence?  why?  do you think that they didn't use condoms?  of course they did.  but then they started having sex one day without one on.  and a whole new world opened up to them.   so thinking that you can teach your kids about safe sex and actually having them practice it is a long shot at best. 

and another thing.  no one ever brings this up but who seriously needs to be taught how to use a fuckin condom?  if you need to be taught how to use one you are mentally retarded and should't be having sex with anyone.  like the fuckin guy who reads the instructions on a box of pop tarts.  those are the kind of kids you're trusting to practice safe sex.  good luck man.

and even longer shot is thinking your kid won't have sex

condoms have a pretty high success rate when they are actually used and they have a prophylactic benefit too (hence the name) so all parents should tell their kid IF they can't abstain then be sure to use a condom. 

you know - just basic common sense
20031  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens on: May 07, 2009, 07:52:50 AM
Hmmm,funny you didnt include Biden there.He is THE MOST ANTI-DRUG guy in the history of the United States senate.He is responsible for more anti-drug bullshit then any two senators ever and THE ENTIRE reason there is a drug czar and steroids being banned.Yet his kid turned out to be a coke head.

By the way,Al Gore was a HUGE anti-drug guy and often bragged how the Clinton administration spent more to stop drugs then any administration before it.So,you were wrong there.He was a strident anti drug anti tobacco advocate.

You see ,unlike you,I dont blame parents for every mistake a kid makes.Kids do what they will.Palin did her best,her kid took a wrong turn.Biden did his best his daughter took a wrong turn,Gore did his best,the kid did the wrong thing.You can only influence your kid so much.Did you do everything your parents told you to?I know I didnt.

And if Biden and Gore's kids paraded around telling the world to do as they say and not at they do then I'd mock them too.

I wonder why Bristol wasn't an "abstinence advocate" before she got knocked up.  Maybe she was too busy partying and having sex and not using condoms.  Oh well - kids will be kids
20032  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens on: May 07, 2009, 07:15:53 AM
Funny,all this hatred for Palin and questioning her parenting ability.Lets see,THE GREAT Al Gores kid is a fucking junkie who has been in and out of rehab.Ted Kennedys kid is a fucking junkie who has been in and out of rehab.Bidens daughter is a coke head.Not one lib knocks their parenting ability.Isnt that strange?

there might be some relevence if Gore or Kennedy had strident anti-drug stances and then paraded their kids around as advocates for a standard which they themselves can't even maintain.   BTW - why didn't you mention Jeb Bush's daughter who has been arrested, jailed and in rebab multiple times for crack cocaine use?  

The whole idea that Bristol Palin is an advocate for the exact thing which failed her is just a classic example of the stupidity of the religious right.

Hey Bristol why don't you just shut up, finish school, get an real job and actually set a good example for all teenagers and stop trying to have a media career as an advocate for something which you couldn't actually do yourself.
20033  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens on: May 07, 2009, 12:00:52 AM
What's worse

Palin knew her kid was partying and having sex and did nothing

or

Palin didn't know her kid was partying and having sex

20034  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: WESTPOINT, Iraq Veteran,Officer kicked out of military for Announcing "I AM on: May 06, 2009, 11:38:55 PM
Yes.

so what should we do?
20035  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens on: May 06, 2009, 10:05:50 PM
Bristols Mommie taught her NO SEX, but didnt teach her about condoms or Birth Control... Gotta love them right wing women

actually, I think that her mom didn't teach her shit and probably knew full well that her kid was partying and having sex and probably assumed that her kid was smart enough to use a condom. 

whoops
20036  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: WESTPOINT, Iraq Veteran,Officer kicked out of military for Announcing "I AM on: May 06, 2009, 08:53:30 PM
Nobody in the military wants to be showering with homosexuals.

Aren't they showering with them already?
20037  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens on: May 06, 2009, 08:47:18 PM
No, that's like saying condoms don't work, because kids won't consistently use them, which is exactly what happened.  

This is the same girl who didn't follow her parents' advice and wound up with a baby.  She's actually in a very good position to talk to teens about the dangers of premarital sex.  She has the baby to prove it. 

yeah Bum, I know what you're saying but your statement that "condoms don't work" is absurd.

Nothing works if it's not used.

What's more likely to fail......the willpower of the raging horny teenager or a condom....when actually used?

By your logic, one could say "seatbelts don't work" because people won't consistenty use them so the only best alternative is that one should just abstain from driving.



20038  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens on: May 06, 2009, 06:06:04 PM
They were using condoms.  Even more proof that condoms don't work. 

nonsense, that's like saying not using a seatbelt is proof that seatbelts don't work.

What's funny is how a teenager who was both on the pill (Sarah approved no doubut) and also using condoms has the temerity to preach abstinence.  

Isn't this the same girl who said abstinence was not realistic or something like that?
20039  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens on: May 06, 2009, 05:44:58 PM
Johnston sums up what I've maintained about the condoms, etc. argument for years:  

"Johnston said he and Palin had used condoms but occasionally had slipped up. That's how Tripp was conceived, Johnston said."

Doesn't work, because kids won't use them consistently.  

sounds like they were having regular sex

I wonder how the daughter got on the pill without the parents consent (surely Palin didn't consent because they would mean she knew they were having sex

even more irrefutable proof that abstinence doesn't work.
20040  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Question for the really strong getbiggers, Ursus, NZMusclemonster, etc... on: May 04, 2009, 06:51:51 PM
what i find is cycling weights.

ie say you bench press 100kg for 5x5.

drop down to 70kg for 5x5 and gradually add weight. Say 2.5kg a workout. Eventually you will get near 100kg and it will feel easier...then you will surpass it. if you got to 102.5kg or 105 kg then thats tremendous progress. On snaller exercises make smaller jumps. Dont be afraid to strip back down. no shame in having easy and light workouts for a week or so.

I ALWAYS cycle weights at least on major exercises constantly and find gives great progress always. Patiance is necessary though.

I alwyas avoid FAILURE. and dont train to failure. I complete exercises with FULL ROM also

Another great tip is do the best exercises and get good at them. ie bench squat dead incline DB chin dip shoulder press rows.

p.s my powerlifting wa s ajoke lol and i am not that strong. much more guys stronger. However this is advice i live by and it has worked tremendously for me.

thanks for kind words tho

these are all great "advices"



20041  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Interesting Christian views on Waterboarding on: May 04, 2009, 05:46:49 PM
He's crazier than a loon.

I thought I detected a subtle mockage but perhaps I'm wrong
20042  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Interesting Christian views on Waterboarding on: May 04, 2009, 10:17:25 AM
Good post, GC!

I can't figure out if GC takes this stuff seriously or not. 
20043  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Interesting Christian views on Waterboarding on: May 04, 2009, 08:29:44 AM
The truth is you do not have to be a victim of him.  God sent His only Son to die for your sins.  All you have to do is accept Him

well I've already explained why I can't do that.  Sounds like I won't be able to use the devils lies and trickery as an excuse.  Honestly, I can't actually remember meeting the devil so I'm not sure when he would have lied or tricked me. 
20044  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Interesting Christian views on Waterboarding on: May 04, 2009, 06:32:49 AM
I do not see the choices you have made as crazy.  I see them as a person who is being deceived.  Satan is the master of lies and trickery.  He is attempted to take as many souls to the lake of fire (with him) as possible.  As I stated before, I understand the lure of the world. 

seems kind of shitty for god to condemn me to eternal suffering when I'm really just a victim of the devils lies and trickery.   
20045  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Schwarzenegger May Support a Democrat on: May 03, 2009, 09:44:34 PM
why can't AS support whoever he thinks is the best person for the job?

20046  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Interesting Christian views on Waterboarding on: May 03, 2009, 09:21:53 PM
I do not see the choices you have made as crazy.  I see them as a person who is being deceived.  Satan is the master of lies and trickery.  He is attempted to take as many souls to the lake of fire (with him) as possible.  As I stated before, I understand the lure of the world. 

ok so Satan has hidden the "truth" from me?
20047  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: List of possible replacements for Justice David Souter on: May 03, 2009, 02:55:56 PM
Suspected by whom?  Do you know anyone who claims to have slept with him?  I don't.

There are several out gay politicos in DC.  And a number of known closet cases known to DC's gay community, but I have never heard even a rumor about Souter which surprises me.  I do not buy the "I prefer to be alone" line.  That works after a messy breakup but for 60+ years?  No. Not buying it.

regarding Roberts, I just remember that rumor being tossed around by left wing blogs when he was being nominated.   I used to listen to Randi Rhodes and she was constantly bringing that up at the time.  Other than that I have no clue.

regarding Souter - never thought about it either way until you brought it up.    Being single, even your whole life doesn't mean you're gay.   From his personal info on Wiki it says he was once engaged and he does appear to be a quirky guy:

Souter enjoys mountain climbing in New Hampshire during the judicial off-season; he waits until only a few days before the Supreme Court's session begins to return to Washington, where he lived for years in a spartan apartment.[2] Souter was attacked by two youths in what appeared to be a random incident when jogging home at night in 2004. He managed to fend off these attackers using the martial arts skills he developed while attending Harvard.[2]

He is co-chair of the We the People National Advisory Committee.[citation needed]

Once named by The Washington Post as one of Washington DC's 10 Most Eligible Bachelors,[2] Justice Souter has never married, though he was once engaged.[citation needed]

According to Jeffrey Toobin's book The Nine, Souter has a decidedly low-tech lifestyle. He writes with a fountain pen and does not use email. According to Toobin, Souter has no cell phone, no answering machine, and no television. He prefers to drive back to New Hampshire for the summer.[2]
20048  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / E-Board - Movies, Music, TV, Videogames, Comics / Re: Madonna looking terrible on: May 03, 2009, 01:36:18 PM
Fussy bestid.

I'll look for a close-up.

I see what ya mean, tho. Those small areolae aren't so attractive as big wagon-wheel jobs.

DAMY

lol - it wasn't so much that but I do agree with you.
20049  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: List of possible replacements for Justice David Souter on: May 03, 2009, 01:34:27 PM
Is David Souter gay?  I always got a gay vibe from him, but have never heard the media (even the gossip media) say much about his personal life.

He may just be a nerdy intellectual, but he has been a lifelong bachelor and is specifically known for not participating in the Washington social scene (that other justices participate in); and he is never seen with a companion in tow. Roll Eyes

there are some people that just prefer to be alone

speaking of closet cases though, isn't the chief justice suspected of being gay too
20050  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Is evangelical just a fancy word for " White Taliban"? on: May 03, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
thoughts.....

short answer no

longer answer - I think the potential is there if we were to let religious nutjobs run amok in our society and government. 
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