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20026  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: DASCHLE KNEW ABOUT TAX ISSUES IN JUNE - NYT - CHANGE & HOPE!!!!! on: February 03, 2009, 09:29:32 PM
for clarification on my comment, I was only referring to Obama resolving the issue of his mistake in picking Daschle and really he's taking responsibility (as a leader should) for whoever it was on his team that is responsible for weeding out these issues before they become problems.

It is kind of curious that just 24 hours ago Obama was behind Daschle.  Maybe he realized that he was getting away from his promises to change the way Washington works (I hope that's the case) It's quite possible that Geitner would have been in jeopardy had he not been a few weeks ahead of the arc of this problem with Daschle.

20027  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: DASCHLE KNEW ABOUT TAX ISSUES IN JUNE - NYT - CHANGE & HOPE!!!!! on: February 03, 2009, 08:58:48 PM
very much so although i dont know if he resolved it from what i hear daschle asked to be withdrawn, obama didnt say get lost for all we know daschle could still be in the running if he hadnt have pulled out.

no one knows except Daschle, Obama and maybe Rahmbo and/or Biden

I don't think it really matters

it's out of the news and on to the next story
20028  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: DASCHLE KNEW ABOUT TAX ISSUES IN JUNE - NYT - CHANGE & HOPE!!!!! on: February 03, 2009, 08:48:57 PM
enough with the comparing obama to bush bro its irrelavent, could compare him to clinton as well...that being said im glad he owned up to it, doesnt explain why he was ok with the first guy who didnt pay taxes but still glad to see him taking responsibility for it gained points in my book.

yeah, I think he handled this well too and it's f'ng refreshing to see a President who can quickly admit mistakes and resolve them quickly

20029  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Spot on again, Mr. Gingrich on: February 03, 2009, 08:39:07 PM
Maybe balance isn't the right word to use.  Sorry about that. 

I believe that if Gingrich was still in office, there never would have been the buy-in to the idea of a "moderate republican" or RINO.  That alone would have been the demise of the filibustering that took place from Democratic candidates.  Spending would not have been what it was during the past 8 years. 

you think that a Gingrich led House would have reined in Bush's insane borrowing and spending spree?
20030  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Spot on again, Mr. Gingrich on: February 03, 2009, 08:31:52 PM
We would most likely be seeing a little more balance than what we've seen over the past 8 years.  It's just my opinion. 

I don't know what you mean by balance - do you think Gingrich would have been more bi-partisan?

20031  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Spot on again, Mr. Gingrich on: February 03, 2009, 08:24:16 PM
LOL!

Man, I admire your persistence to argue your case.  I ain't mad atcha, bro.  Wink

I didn't think you were mad at me

What would the Repubs have done differently if they hadn't run Gingrich out of town and why would that be good?
20032  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Spot on again, Mr. Gingrich on: February 03, 2009, 08:17:53 PM
the republican party flat out abandoned the things that Gingrich would have fought for.  long gone are the days of the Newts, JC Watts, Reagans, etc.

like what?

Rich people and corporations got their tax cuts. 

What else do the Repubs want?

Let me guess

dismantle the Dept of Education, The FDA, etc..

you know get the govt down to the size where it could be drowned in a bathtub

that would be so great for everyone. 

I can't imagine why that failed
20033  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Spot on again, Mr. Gingrich on: February 03, 2009, 08:06:39 PM
And look where it has gotten them?

well you're right that after he left the Repugs went on to destroy the country but I'm not sure there is any correlation
20034  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama AG could make secret Bush memos public on: February 03, 2009, 08:03:04 PM
Is it just me, ...or does BB remind you of that creepy bible-thumping Flanders guy from the Simpsons?  Huh

Bum reminds me of Ted Haggard - (the pre-scandal version)

20035  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Spot on again, Mr. Gingrich on: February 03, 2009, 07:53:04 PM
I bet Newty wishes he still had his government job

Too bad his own party ran him out of town
20036  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama names Gregg for Commerce secretary on: February 03, 2009, 02:24:38 PM
Good pick. 

Why?
20037  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Republicans Want GOP to Be Like Palin: Poll on: February 03, 2009, 01:44:44 PM
Newt would utterly humiliate Obama in a debate.

Too bad it will never happen

Newton is poison and couldn't run for anything even if he wanted to

20038  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer on: February 03, 2009, 01:43:10 PM
when was the last time somebody wasnt approved? like 30 yrs ago right? did bush run on a platform of political ethical reform and accountability? of not being the average politician?
does he seem to be living up to the standard that he set forth?

I believe he did run on ethical reform as well as no nation building and being uniter not a divider.

Obama is doing OK so far in living up to his campaign promises.  Not 100% but high 90's for sure
20039  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer on: February 03, 2009, 01:12:57 PM
Obama is turning out to be even a worse fraud and liar than even I thought he would be.

You clowns attacked me mercilessly for calling him "ZERO", yet who is laughing now?Huh

You were duped, defrauded, and distracted with nonsense like "Change" and "Hope" by this phony.


You might want to hold off congratulating yourelf just yet

a few of failed nominees (3 by my count) don't mean shit, especially ones that withdraw rather than failing to get approval or being shown to be completely unqualified - examples would be Harriet Meirs and Gonzo the Clown
20040  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer on: February 03, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
That says a lot doesnt it?Huh?

We need new people in there. 

No more of thse old political hacks.

I refuse to believe that the only people qualified for these positions are old hacks and deadbeats.

there is also something to be said for experience but there clearly is a feeling of entitlement and tone deafness among people at the upper echelons of politics and business and I'd love to see that come to an end

I can't believe the woman who resigned this morning did so over less than 1000 in unpaid employment taxes.   There's got to be more to it.
20041  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Palin stiffs the House Republicans on: February 03, 2009, 11:40:19 AM
Beach Bum, let's say you were holding an "Obama Stimulus package Economic House Party" this weekend.  You asked me to go, and I said I couldn't, because I had to work.

Then, you looked out your window and saw me at the Obama house party being held down the block.

"He lied to us," said Beach Bum, distraught and standing on his front lawn.

I assumed that was an eye roll of agreement
20042  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Palin stiffs the House Republicans on: February 03, 2009, 11:25:35 AM
Let me see if I understand.She gave a fake excuse for not going to some stupid ass retreat and that makes her a liar.

yes - a fake excuse = a lie
20043  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Left-wing media dying on: February 03, 2009, 11:24:40 AM
Jay Severin wrote this article, I believe right before Air America launched.   He explains why it would (did) fail.

Liberal talk radio? No one will buy it

By Jay Severin, 3/30/2004


AFTER YEARS of contemptuously dismissing talk radio as a vast, embarrassing wasteland of doltish, bigoted, old, angry, overweight, religious white men named Chuck, liberals suddenly want a piece of the action. Coming soon to a radio near you, the Liberal Talk Network.


He's certainly spot on about the bigoted, old, angry overweight regligious white men.

I listen to "lib" radio every morning and for only one reason - it's entertaining.

Stephanie Miller has a good show, Ed Schultz is ok when he's not bragging about himself, Maddow is a rising star,

The two things they all have in common is that they're heavy on facts and they're entertaining
20044  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Palin stiffs the House Republicans on: February 03, 2009, 11:17:56 AM
Repub congressmen were kinda pissed that Palin lied to them. 

"She lied to us," said a Republican at the retreat.

The worst part about this is Palin was too dumb to even realize that she would be caught lying

20045  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer on: February 03, 2009, 11:16:45 AM
Daschle just backed out

This isn't looking good for Obama or his vetting team

We're probably losing qualified people left and right

20046  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ANOTHER OBAMA NOMINEE HAS TAX PROBLEMS!!!!!!! - Nancy Killefer on: February 03, 2009, 09:06:02 AM
I'd be really suprised if the only reason she withdrew her name was for a tax lien < 1000

20047  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Republicans Pick Steele as Next Party Chairman on: February 02, 2009, 11:00:33 PM
obama's new approval ratings will be interesting.

THAT is why his approval ratings on jan 21/22 were relevant (despite numbnuts here saying otehrwise).  Soon we'll be able to see if the stimulus package is affecting peopel's perception of him.


as of yet there is no stimulus package except the money (our money) we gave to the banks
20048  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: School can expel lesbian students, court rules on: February 02, 2009, 03:43:27 PM
Again - I'd like to know what other kids were expelled for violating the statement of faith and how many who did violate it in one way or another and are still walking the halls.

Example - here's another part of their statement of faith:

"We believe that the universe, the world, and the human race came into existence in the beginning when God created heaven and earth and all creatures (Genesis 1,2). Further testimony to this event is found in other passages of the Old and New Testaments (for example, Exodus 20:11; Hebrews 11:3). The creation happened in the course of six consecutive days of normal length by the power of Godís almighty word."

"We believe that the Bible presents a true, factual, and historical account of creation"

Now since you don't have to be member of their church to attend school there what do you think the odds are that there are some smart kids are walking around those halls who don't believe these two particular parts of the Statement of Faith.

Anyway - in the end who really cares. The girls lost their case and learned a lesson about the ugliness of discrimination and the ugliness of religious institutions.  The school got the two evil doers out of their school so now they are safe from knowing that gay people or people they think might be homosexual are in their school.   Success?
20049  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Palin stiffs the House Republicans on: February 02, 2009, 02:35:14 PM
I don't see Biden listed in the thread title.  Must not be about him.  Feel free to start one though.

So again... why does Palin lie?

I think she lies because a liar (forget about that bearing false witness thing)

I'm curious why she would choose to lie about something where she knows it will be obvious she lied.

Also, Obama was at this dinner and I can't believe she would pal around with someone who palled around with a terrorist.

The whole thing is very confusing
20050  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: School can expel lesbian students, court rules on: February 02, 2009, 02:29:44 PM
Right.  Good points, especially about the basis of their claim.   

Another way to look at this is if the girls would claimed to be lesbians when they applied for admission, the school would denied their applications. 

I don't care at all if these kids are gay or not.

The hearsay from their "friends" is irrelevent

The principal put each girl in a room and grilled them on intimate details of their personal life - I find that to be offensive and disgusting

In the end all he could get was that they had a bond charactertic of being gay

Either way, that was enough to discriminate against them and it's proven to be legal.

Congratulation to the principal for protecting his students from these two sinners



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