I predict Ron Paul has 0% chance of winning Iowa Democratic Primary

yeah - just a hunch on my part but I think he comes across as more genuine (whether he is or not is another issue) and I think that will go over well.

Also the Des Moines register poll in May had Edwards ahead (most recent version put Hilary ahead) and those voters may flip again

I think Edwards is going to be the suprise winner in Iowa

you should really learn when to cut your losses

Bum - along with being a dolt I'm starting to think you might also be delusional.

Here's some serious advice for you:

'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

You should have quit with your eyeroll on page 1

Bum I don't take order's from you or anyone.

If you thought it was a parody they why didn't you say so in your original post?

Who would "re-think" their support of Edwards over a parody?

Whatever you say Beach Bum - I don't think anyone here is buying your story - well maybe your nutsucker alter ego believes it

you're kidding right? - you're the one who derailed the thread with the "sense of humor" nonsense. 

I'll be glad to get back on topic

Why did you think this ad was real?

After realizing that the ad was fake why did you still think the content was factual?

Oh right - we're all supposed to pretend that you knew all along and then later that your comment was some kind of joke?


whatever you say Bum

Bum - all I've done is point out your errors (politely at first - have you noticed I usually try to be polite first?)

You're the one with your knickers in a knot.

right on time

I'm guessing you're either Beach Bum or perhaps his dumber brother

ya really think so?

I'd like to think maybe you're an idiot savant but so far you just seem like a regular idiot

Bum - your  opinion about my sense of humor aside - it doesn't change the fact that you first thought this ad was real and then thought that the content was factual

Seriously dude - you're a little slow on the uptake

Bum - I laugh all the time but I'm still waiting for you to say something funny.

If you truly thought that this joke ad was authentic or that the contents (although a joke) were factual then you are a box of rocks (something I've long suspected but still always tried to give you the benefit of doubt)

If you were joking when you wrote:


then I guess the subtly of your humor just doesn't come across that well in the written word

No Bum - what they said was NOT TRUE

Edwards did not pay 4000 for a manicure and he does not have a 26,000 square foot air conditioner.  Jesus Christ man have you ever been inside a 10,000 square foot house.

BTW - the entire site is a gag

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/236-our-new-comedy-si_b_71919.html?load=1&page=2

I assume that means that you didn't know either

I wonder if BB knew this was a joke.  From his original post it seems like he also thought it was authentic

you know the ad was a gag right?

It might be funny but using the kids to lie about him just makes it creepy

No - That's not what I'm saying

not to be rude but again you're looking at this backwards and I honestly can't figure out if it's intentional or not. 

trying to get the legislation passed is just the current strategy for gaining access and not "the reason"

again - it's the current tool.

The point is that the Iraqi's are aware that we want CONTROL of THEIR OIL and they would prefer otherwise

and that's been a problem for us

how's that for understatement?

we didn't go to war to get them to pass this law - you're framing this ass-backwards

we went to war to secure access to Oil that belongs to the country of Iraq and by extension, to the people of Iraq.  Why should they do anything that is not in their interest or that benefits foreign corporations at the expense of their own country and their own people?

The idea that this oil belongs to the country/people of Iraq is a foreign concept to the western world but then again, why don't the natural resources of our country belong to the people of our country?  Ooohhhh, that would be socialism and that's BAD.  It's much better if corporations control OUR resources.  

OK - rant over.  Time for dinner.  

Bum does have at least one core belief and it's all about his taxes

Anything that would raise his taxes is BAD

I wish that we had to pay for any war with a tax increase - pay as you go

Fuck - we don't even have Iraq in the regular budget in spite of the fact that we've been there for 4 years and we've committed to staying there for the indefinite future. 

Forget the supplemental spending bills.  It's time to put the Iraq Occupation in the budget and if we have to raise taxes to pay for it so be it

Your view of taxes is simplistic (sorry to be repetitive)

What if they only raised taxes on incomes > than 10,000,000 and lowered everyone else or some other variation where you personally would not be hurt.  Would you be for it then?  What if they could devise a tax increase where you were the beneficiary of the increase in revenue?    Again, we're off on a tangent here but your mantra of Dems will raise taxes is SIMPLISTIC at best.     

yes it is sematics - isn't regulation a form of control?  Clearly you don't have to take physical control of something in order to control it.  You can regulate the shit out of it and effectively control it.  Anyway, don't want to get you off on a tangent about that. 

Ozmo's quiz was entertaining but it was all quotes taken out of context.  You already know my feelings about Hilary but I won't judge her (or you) based on quotes taken out of context.

You say she wants to control the marketplace but you also say you don't know what she intends to do but you're sure it's control and not regulation and you sure it will only be bad?

Mabye we'll get lucky and Edwards will become the Democratic candidate and then we won't have to worry about Hilary.  That's my hope anyway

Bum, do some research on the Iraq Hydrocarbon legislation.  I've posted it here before and I could  dig it up again.  One of the reasons we went to Iraq was most definitely to get access to their oil and the Bush Admin. is pissed off that the Iraq parliment won't pass the leglislation that would essentially screw themself (the Iraqi's).   This was all about oil and it also didn't hurt that it created a venue for businesses to loot the US Treasury - cost plus/no bid contracts, zero oversight, waste, graft, corruption.  It's a neo-con wet dream.

regulate/control - semantics.  All part of the same continuum.   

How would Hilary move from regulation to control?  What specifically are you talking about?  Is it health care or something else that you're worried about.