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51  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Peggy "Obama gonna pay my mortgage and gas bill' Joseph turns on Obama on: July 16, 2014, 10:26:23 AM
Funny - something Obama said obviously gave peggy the idea that her bills would be paid by Obama

yep, that "something" is that she is a moron

you have the same problem
52  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Peggy "Obama gonna pay my mortgage and gas bill' Joseph turns on Obama on: July 15, 2014, 04:15:45 PM
333 finally found someone as stupid as he is

Obama never said he was going to pay anyone's mortgage but apparently this dumb twat along with our resident moron thought he did

53  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Governor Moonbeam Makes the Use of the Words Husband and Wife Illegal in CA on: July 15, 2014, 04:08:41 PM
The Southern Poverty Law Center calls any group that supports traditional marriage a "hate group."  Pretty asinine.  

They've only designated 39 "christian identity" groups as hate groups and surely there are many more christian groups (and others) who support "traditional marriage" so that is obviously not the only criteria and likely not even a criteria at all

But I'm sure facts won't in any way change your belief
54  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Governor Moonbeam Makes the Use of the Words Husband and Wife Illegal in CA on: July 15, 2014, 03:27:47 PM
Hey BB, I'm a little confused by Prop 8 info in this excerpt.  Maybe you know a little more?

It seems to first say that Prop 8 was overturned by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals after which the Supreme Court refused to overturn that ruling.  I think I understand that but then, confusingly (for me), the excerpt then goes on to quote an attorney from the Pacific Justice Institute in California (Matthew McReynolds) who says “Contrary to media myths, Prop. 8 has not been invalidated on a statewide basis."

Does that mean that Prop 8 is still in effect in some places in CA?  

BTW, is it really a big deal if they change the words "husband" and "wife" to "spouse"?  Taking the gender out of common terms seems to have been a thing since way before gay marriage.  And to my ear, "spouse" sounds a lot better than "lay-person".  

On a non-serious note, it could have been worse, ya know;  The LGBT camp probably lobbied to change "husband" and "wife" to "top" and "bottom", lol.



the only confusion is with the so called attorney from the Pacific Justice Institute (which the Southern Poverty Law Center has designated as a hate group - for whatever that is worth).

this change to the Family Code of CA just makes the language consistent with the legal definition of marriage in CA.

No one is "prohibited" from referring to man and woman or husband and wife. 

BTW - I had to go through almost 2 pages of google search results to find a story about this that wasn't from a christian or right wing site.

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/05/01/california-may-remove-man-and-woman-state-law-2/
55  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gay Sex Jokes, Offered Drugs, Shooting Pool, Jumping the Line = Obama on: July 14, 2014, 11:43:57 AM
A closet case midget.  Lives in the ghetto.  Has a Jungle Fever fetish.  Works as debt collector.  And admits to dressing like a twink on purpose.

That's your reality.

you forgot imaginary girlfriend

if he actually had a woman he wouldn't be on this site all weekend long making posts about Obama being gay over and over again
56  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gay Sex Jokes, Offered Drugs, Shooting Pool, Jumping the Line = Obama on: July 14, 2014, 09:55:24 AM
Damn 333 - that monkey on your back is really driving you nuts this morning isn't it

you posted this story on another thread and less then 10 minutes later you posted it again

you really can't stop hoping/wishing/praying that Obama is gay can you

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/14/obama-gay-sex-joke_n_5584378.html


During a recent visit to Texas, President Barack Obama made a stop at Franklin Barbecue in Austin, where he ordered a ton of meat and was seen giving a cashier one of his famous fist bumps.

That cashier -- Daniel Rugg Webb, a comedian and part-time employee at Franklin Barbecue -- told the Austin Chronicle the fist bump was a reaction to a gay sex joke:


As the president approached, Webb threw his hand down and slapped the counter dramatically. "Equal rights for gay people!"

"Are you gay?" the president asked.

"Only when I have sex," [Webb said.]

"That's when he laughed and said, 'Bump me,'" Webb says.



Webb said "it was just a lucky day to be the register girl" when the president, who reportedly ordered more than $300 worth of food for both his crew and the people he cut in line, visited the restaurant.


In June, Obama announced plans to sign an executive order that would ban workplace discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender employees of federal contractors, saying it's "wrong" that some states still allow people to fire or harass employees solely based on their sexual orientation.

During his visit in Austin, Obama spoke about the ongoing border crisis and addressed Republicans' recent claims he should be impeached.





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57  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama enrages food world by refusing to wait and cutting line at Pork BBQ in TX on: July 12, 2014, 11:13:44 AM
It's like the holy grial of BBQ.   People line up for hours to have it every day for it.  


Him cutting in line was a political mistake.  

You have probably seen the amex commercial with Franklin's BBQ on it.  

Yelp it.  It's in Austin.

My brother lives in Austin and has stood in line a few times for this place only to see them run out of food

Personally, I refuse to wait in line like this when there are plenty of other BBQ places in Austin

Austin also has some of the best taco joints/trucks in the country (IMO)
58  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: obama is gay and michelle is a tranny and everyone knows it. on: July 12, 2014, 10:13:04 AM
Says the guy who spends 90% of his time here calling one poster a homo?

I'd put it closer to 10% but keep in mind I've repeatedly offered to stop pointing out that he's a closet queen if he would just stop acting like one

I think that's a fair offer

For an example of his closet queenery see this thread (among many others)
59  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 11, 2014, 03:37:39 PM
We are all well off on the internet.   Roll Eyes

Women always complain about being the ones who have to shit out the kids in a relationship.

Stop being a fucking idiot.

when does simply owning a home make one "well off"

maybe that's just your perspective

again, I haven't personally heard any women complaining about "having to" give birth

they might complain about it (as you pointed out) at the moment of birth or they might complain about the side effect of being pregnant
but I suspect that's not what bears was implying when he said they complain that life is unfair because the have to give birth because in fact they don't have to give birth if they don't want to.   He was trying to make some analogy about "unfairness" for men having to support kids that they don't want.   There is no comparison
60  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 11, 2014, 03:30:27 PM
I suspect he never leaves the basement.
I own my house in California and I don't have a basement
I also happen to be posting from my office (where I pay the rent each month)
how about you?

are you being fucking serious? 

why would a women complain about "having to give birth" when they in fact  don't have to give birth

your statement makes no sense
61  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 11, 2014, 02:35:40 PM
LOL.  i'll give you a chance to actually read the article that you posted.  please just read the actual whole article.  

did you read this part?

While it is clear that there have been real declines in recent years, absolute numbers from the CDC should be taken with several shakers of salt. Since 1998, the CDC has not included any data from California, the nation’s most populated state, or New Hampshire, in its totals. And at least one other state has usually been missing from the data set (this year it’s two–Delaware, where there were 4,603 abortions performed in 2008, and Maryland, which has not reported since 2007.)

While the CDC relies on reports from state health departments, surveys done by the Guttmacher Institute found about 400,000 more abortions per year by contacting abortionists directly. Most recent figures from Guttmacher have estimated that there are just over 1.2 million abortions a year.

While missing several hundred thousand abortions, numbers from the CDC still roughly track those from Guttmacher, so trends and demographics are still very much worth considering.


I'm still trying to figure out what you think the bold print that you posted means?

do you think because the data may on the total # of abortions may not be complete that we somehow don't have access to data from death certificates

The article starts with the headline of 400 deaths since 1973 based on data from 2009

Thats 400 total deaths in 36 years or about 11 deaths a year

You claim 700 die per year from abortions (actually you claimed just as many women die from abortion as from complication from pregnancy and that # was 700) yet you provided nothing to support this claim

so CDC says it's around 11 per year and it's likely a false narrative to claim if you don't know how many total abortions occurred each year that you don't know how many deaths from abortion occurred because we would still have the data from death certificates so we wouldn't necessarily need the total # of abortions performed

Feel free to post any link that supports your claim
62  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 11, 2014, 02:30:32 PM
sorry I had to address this before I left.  so why don't you place the same responsibility on women to do the right thing and not run around crying about how unfair life is because they have to give birth?  shouldn't they act like responsible adult females?  

I've never seen a woman (or heard of one) crying about how life is unfair because they "have to give birth"

maybe the reason is because they don't have to give birth

they have a choice as to whether to have an abortion or to give birth

63  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 11, 2014, 02:24:00 PM
LOL.  i'll give you a chance to actually read the article that you posted.  please just read the actual whole article.  

did you read this part?

While it is clear that there have been real declines in recent years, absolute numbers from the CDC should be taken with several shakers of salt. Since 1998, the CDC has not included any data from California, the nation’s most populated state, or New Hampshire, in its totals. And at least one other state has usually been missing from the data set (this year it’s two–Delaware, where there were 4,603 abortions performed in 2008, and Maryland, which has not reported since 2007.)

While the CDC relies on reports from state health departments, surveys done by the Guttmacher Institute found about 400,000 more abortions per year by contacting abortionists directly. Most recent figures from Guttmacher have estimated that there are just over 1.2 million abortions a year.

While missing several hundred thousand abortions, numbers from the CDC still roughly track those from Guttmacher, so trends and demographics are still very much worth considering.


where does it list the number of deaths due to abortion each year?

64  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 11, 2014, 01:59:03 PM
no he's being facetious.  his point is that since women give birth they should be able to force a man to take care of a baby he doesn't want.  because he should have thought of that before he had unprotected sex.  because that's what adults do.  take care of their responsibilities.  

basically if MEN have unprotected sex, they should be ready to raise a child.

if WOMEN have unprotected sex, they can do whatever they feel like doing.  kill it.  keep it.  whatever.  all because they can get pregnant and men can't.  that precludes them from having to be responsible.

so Straw believes that life begins at conception if you're a man.  but life begins at birth if you're a woman.  his logic is flawless.


don't put words in my mouth, especially given your penchant for just pulling stuff out of your ass

As a responsible adult male I have no problem with the current  system where a woman can choose solely at her discretion whether to terminate a pregnancy or not (and within the legal timeframe)

I also fully accept any and all responsibilities for my actions and I certainly would not run around crying about how life is unfair

65  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 11, 2014, 01:52:43 PM
700 a year?  in all honesty that's nothing.  and just as many die from abortion procedure complications so your point is null.  people die.  it happens.  it shouldn't have any effect on the fact that the father should have a choice.  

actually not even close

not sure if you knew your statement was false or were just making an assumption which turned out to be grossly off the mark

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And while the decrease is most welcomed, the abortion industry likes to act as if women no longer died from abortion once it became legal. In fact, CDC reports that twelve more women died in 2008, the most recent year for which the CDC had data, and more than 400 women have died from legal abortion since 1973.
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/11/27/more-than-400-women-have-died-from-legal-abortions-since-1973/

great job avoiding the tens of thousands of woman who also suffer serious health consequences from pregnancy


66  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 11, 2014, 01:47:03 PM
You're kidding, right?

of course
67  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 11, 2014, 01:26:57 PM
How many parents die as a result of raising their children?

Kristin Marlowe was seven months pregnant and admitted for a small placental tear at Mercy Hospital in Springfield, Mo., when she began to complain of a headache. An hour later, she stopped breathing. Strong, healthy and only 20 years old — she died of a stroke.

The maternal death rate in the U.S. is creeping upward — to more than double what it was 25 years ago. Systems identifying deaths have improved, so how much the increase can be attributed to risk is uncertain. But experts agree maternal deaths are no longer declining, are underestimated, largely preventable and disproportionately affect certain groups.

The rate of severe complications during and after delivery have also doubled in the last decade, according to a 2012 federal study. Near-misses, where a woman nearly dies, increased by 27 percent.

That means each year in the U.S., about 700 women die of pregnancy-related complications and 52,000 experience emergencies such as acute renal failure, shock, respiratory distress, aneurysms and heart surgery. An additional 34,000 barely avoid death.


meh - that's nothing

don't you understand how much harder it is for a father to have to raise a child or how unfair that it is that he can't force a women to abort a child he doesn't want or how really unfair it is that he's forced to be financially responsible for his decision to have sex knowing full well that one of the consequences might be an unwanted child.   

those are all just so unfair for the man and much more difficult than death or major health issues that ONLY women have to deal with. 

Women get off easy.  All they have to do is deal with pregnancy, birth, post pregnancy health issues and after that they still have the exact same financial and other parenting burdens as men
68  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 11, 2014, 01:02:04 PM
and the man has the "burden" of dealing with being financially responsible for the child for 18 years and raising them to be good people for 18 years. because that's what fathers do.  and sorry but raising a child is harder than being pregnant and giving birth.  if you had kids you'd know this.  but you obviously don't.  it's very apparent.  
so the decision should not be solely hers to make.  It should be both of theirs to make.  

and both the mother and father are equally burdened (HATE that word because its the best thing in the world to raise your kids) in raising a child for 18 years.  i'm a father of two boys.  my wife's job is not easier than mine and mine is not easier than hers.  you've been poisoned by the liberal media to think that because the mother carries a child that they're somehow MORE important than the father when you're dead wrong.  they're equally important.

yeah and your comments about dealing with the consequences of your actions are exactly what pro life people say to women who have abortions.  unfortunately people like you have been taught by feminist women that those rules only apply to men.



wrong again

They BOTH have the financial burden and they BOTH have the "burden" of raising them to be good people

Post birth the burdens are equal

Prior to birth the woman has ALL of additional burdens of pregnancy and childbirth and post birth health complications
69  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 11, 2014, 10:41:17 AM
Did you become confused?


Sure thing?  That is not the same reasoning, sir.

Whether or not I pay a woman for the next 18 years is entirely up to her to decide.  I have no say.  Big taxation, no representation.  I'm compelled to open my wallet on the basis of her decision alone.  I don't think that's right.  

And you seem so keen to recognize and remove a woman's financial incentive to become pregnant in the form of welfare, yet you want to keep her incentivized by making her the sole voter in whether a man's wallet is open to her for nearly two decades.  Would abortion stats be the same if a baby didn't come with free money from one source or another?  Come on.

In b4 do the rite thang.  As if every man and woman hasn't had sex with someone they wouldn't want to deal with for 18 long years.  Can I get a witness?

This is really really simple (bears pay attention - this is for you too)

the woman has the burden of dealing with all the issues of being pregnant and giving birth.

She has an extra burden and it's happening in her body .....therefore it's solely her choice

If you're old enough to have sex then you're old enough to deal with the consequences of your actions.

When the day comes when the woman can extract the fertilized egg and give it to the man to gestate and give birth to then we will all be equal.

Until that day the women gets the choice of whether to get an abortion or give birth and if she choose to give birth then BOTH the mother and the father are responsible for supporting that child.    The courts exist to make sure the father follows through with his obligation so that his obligation to support his child does not fall on the rest of us.

If you don't like this system then you might be better off in a country where women are in fact treated as the mans property. 

Of course, you always retain the option to simply not have sex and then you won't have to deal with the unintended consequences of your actions
70  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 10, 2014, 11:06:10 AM
wow you sound like Ronald fucking Reagan.

you sound like a guy who thinks the rest of us should be financially responsible for the consequences of your choices and actions
71  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 10, 2014, 10:47:12 AM
he's not MAKING her do anything.  he can't FORCE her to have an abortion.  but she can't FORCE him to pay for a child he doesn't want either.  what's wrong with that?  if he is willing to pay for the abortion what is her argument?  in my scenario no one is FORCING anyone to do anything.

they are both equally responsible for taking care of that kid

that's what it means to be an adult and the state shouldn't have to force a human being to support their own child (whether they wanted it or not is irrelevant)

everyone understands the potential consequences of having sex so if you can't deal with the outcome then don't have sex

the rest of US should not be forced to pay for your actions
72  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 10, 2014, 09:50:34 AM
Correct.  Now we apply the same reasoning to wallets and we're in total agreement.

sure thing

how about this.  If a woman get's pregnant and has a kid then both she and the father are financially responsible for the child

Since neither you, I or anyone other than those two are the parents they are the only ones who are responsible for financially supporting that child

agreed?
73  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: John Meadows Joins Prime Nutrition! on: July 09, 2014, 07:52:00 PM
LOL @ press release

Why did the Meadows PR leave out mention of the "closed door" meetings.  Is he not going to be invited to those meetings?

BTW - both Evan and John seem pretty cool and down to earth

I assume this move was done solely to cash in on the schmucks who buy supplements and who can really blame them for that.  



74  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 09, 2014, 06:35:25 PM
Did I miss something, what are women telling men to do with their bodies? My wife has never....

you didn't miss anything

just pointing out that it goes both ways

men don't get any say in what women do with their bodies and vice versa

this of course is obvious but apparently needed pointing out for the men on this board who think they should have some say over whether a woman should be able to get an abortion or not
75  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Why won't she look at her choice? on: July 09, 2014, 04:01:42 PM
bottom line is that men should be able to tell a woman to have an abortion if they do not want to raise the baby.  if the woman still wants the baby the man should be able to sign away all liability towards it.  I would say its only fair that the man pay 100% for the abortion procedure.  if he argues with that, well he should have thought of that before he went ahead and fucked a girl without a condom without wanting to have a baby.

why not?  If liberals have taught me anything about this issue they've taught me this:

FACT: abortion is not murder.  its not a life.

FACT: abortion is safe.

FACT: abortion reduces crime.

FACT: there exists an unreal amount of negative statistics on kids with single parents and fatherless children.

FACT: women don't suffer negative psychological effects from having abortions.

these are all facts that are drilled into everyone's heads by the liberal posters every day on this issue.  

so what's wrong with a man telling a woman to go have a medical procedure?  yes its her body.  she doesn't HAVE to get an abortion.  but if she wants to keep the baby she has to pay for it herself.

someone come up with a counter argument to this that makes sense knowing what we know.

wrong

women can't tell men what to do with their bodies and men can't tell woman what to do with their bodies

that's the way it works in the United States
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