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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Today's Veterans wear it like a badge whereas our forefathers kept quiet on: July 23, 2014, 07:48:46 AM
Wow...remember that Steppenwolf clip from years ago...still classic.  The Pusher was one of their other great songs ..Magic Carpet Ride, etc..

The Doors "The End", background tract , from Apocalypse Now...another war related classic.  Get the uncut version of Apocalypse Now, well worth it. Brando, Sheen...outstanding.
2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Today's Veterans wear it like a badge whereas our forefathers kept quiet on: July 22, 2014, 04:56:34 PM
To whom it may concern:

No I have never been attached to any military unit, active duty or otherwise.  The current US military is on a volunteer enlistment bases.  

One of my best friends jointed the 101st Airborne, Ft Campbell, Ky. In was in the "100 hour war" in Iraqi in 1991, without a scratch. Heard all about that first person. Later died in a unrelated accident from his Airborne unit. Don't know of too many around Oceanside/Carlsbad who actually would join the US marines....among my circle of friend, anyway....just saying.

But the marine spirit and fighting record, on the Pacific islands, were truly brave and beyond the call of normal duty. Some military historians consider Japan as having a equal to, or worse than, war crimes history than even the Germans. What they did in China alone...unbelievable.
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Today's Veterans wear it like a badge whereas our forefathers kept quiet on: July 22, 2014, 08:46:35 AM
I grew up next to Camp Pendleton, the largest Marine base in the US.The core becomes more like a family unit to them than maybe their real family. I give respect to them as a fighting unit, but watching them stumble around Oceanside, Carlsbad, San Diego and TJ, when their off duty and have leave, is almost embarrassing. A brotherhood in battle, by all means......off base, do and get involved in some pretty stupid things.

The older hash marked marines are actually pretty cool, it's getting over the "we can kick the worlds ass" younger marines attitude driven into them. Guess that comes with age. A small percentage of marines actually see combat in a war zone. The marines vets who do will usually have sealed lip about any serious action they were involve in. Nothing like combat to make one understand that they are human after all. Lot of older active, or retired, marines are into Tri events down here.  Seems to reduce stress quite a bit for them.

Also acquainted with a few active and retired SEALS. Cool guy's, for the most part, but a totally different breed of men.   Keep it close to the vest about most of their military experiences.  Sorry to say, very hard to keep a marriage, or serous relationship, together for any length of time.



WWII men ...probably the most deserved and respected vet's of any American generation. They looked upon their war time service as an act of duty, something that was expected from them. Like, "nothing to talk about here, let's move on" attitude.  God and country for these guys....most respect to them.


(history tells us that England has been invaded by Germanic tribes, as well by Gauls, many, many times.  Often wondered why America though it's need to send troops into action over there. England was never any great friend of America since King George III and before)

 
4  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Traps with Back or shoulders ? on: July 20, 2014, 09:53:30 AM
Actually I don't think it really makes that much of a difference. The Traps are a part of the shoulder girdle and also the upper-mid back area, a pivot point for shoulder or back work. The Traps diamond shape is quite functional in either case, it's like holding or linking those two muscle groups together.

You are never going to isolate any muscle group from another, anyhow. Some work traps with shoulders, others with back...your choice. BB'ers tend to over think (or under think) fairly simple exercises protocols If one or the other works best for you, than keep doing it that way.  Or until something better might come along.

Shrugs are the purest form of a direct trap exercise.  The old Hise shrug, perhaps #1 in that regard. Guy's also used the old style calf machine, with the yoke placed on the shoulders, and did shrugging that way...another version of the Hise shrug. Hi-pulls, with a wider grip, an excellent trap movement, as well as hitting the lateral and rear delts, lats/back and biceps. Cleans ranks a close second (my view only).

One of the better mass building compound exercises to hit the traps and back/shoulder area is the BB row & Hi-pull (heard it called different names in different gyms).  Starting with a regular BB row, the bar is raised to about knee height. At that point the upper body begins to slowly raise into a standing position, while the bar is still traveling upwards. At the near  standing position, the bar is being pulled waist high. At a full standing position, continue the pull until the bar is somewhere between the naval and lower rib.

Lower the bar and repeat for 6-9 reps of 2 or 3 sets.  Always keep the bar close to the body when doing this exercise. Almost touching the body actually. Can work up to some very impressive weight with this exercise, the byproduct being more muscle mass.

Good Luck.
5  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / History - Stories - and Memories / Re: bill pearl tribute thread on: July 16, 2014, 08:37:14 PM
Option D.......There still a gym on Manchester that use to be where Pearl's original gym was......wow. What's there now, one of those chain gyms?

Heard Pearl moved out after the Watt's riots..around 65 or 66. Settle in Pasadena off of Colorado Blvd. Only hear good stories about Pearl...his brother was another story all together. 

South Central and Watt's used to have some pretty big and bad lifters back in the day....probably still true.
6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: What's so special about Vince Girondas physique? on: July 13, 2014, 09:14:30 AM
The special thing about Gironda's physique was that there was nothing special about any body part., nothing stood out or seems out of place.  Everything just seems to balance and have harmony together. More of a classic type of body. Would guess the average man on the street would rather look like Gironda than the mass monsters of today.Of course with younger men, it's all about muscle mass (usually pumped or the bloated look). Older, and experience men, understand BB'ing is about the importance of the aesthetic look. When there is flow and harmony from one body part to another. He did very well for a smaller light boned man. Not sure of his bwt, back in his era, but guessing around 155-160...some of the old times maybe could answer that?

Gironda stressed delts/shoulder width, narrow waist and calves. It was all about illusion of width and the standout development of the calves. Think his flaw was not understand the importance of well developed abs that can be important in a classic look.. Traps distracted from the illusion of shoulder with, so were avoided, I had been told.



Never meet Mr. Gironda (way before my time), but have know a few old timers who have. A couple worked out at his North Hollywood (or was that Studio City?) gym on Ventura. Married 3 or 4 times I believe and in later years had money and drinking problems. Alimony, support, etc. among the problems. If anything, he was very, very inventive with exercises and diets (no or zero carbs...meat/eggs). Still has a influence on modern day BB'ing. His course are worth a look, if only to get a sense of where he was coming from.
7  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Traps on: July 03, 2014, 11:50:01 AM
You can go into a pre-exhaustion style starting with heavier shrugs first followed by hanging cleans/Hi-pulls right after (no rest). A nice mass builder for most. Some like to reverse that and do cleans/Hi-pulls first, than shrugs...your choice.

Some will use a wider grip when doing shrugs....collar to collar or close enough to the collars as you can.  Changing the hand spacing may make a difference and can get a totally new feel/stretch to the exercise. Might start with a extra wide grip for a couple of sets, than middle and narrow (hands almost touching) for couple more sets each position.  Working on shrugs is a great way to improve the clean/hi-pull and Olympic lifts.

Using DB's can also affect the traps, as far as size and power go. I favor the one are Hi-pull (DB) quite a bit over the years. Also one arm cleans. Seem to help the quickness and timing of the basic clean and everything else..

The two hand (from the floor) DB clean & press is one of the ultimate exercises around. Old time strongmen contest use to feature that lift. Can make or brake even the strongest of men. Try for 8-10 reps, it will also affect the cardio greatly.

Good Luck.
8  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Why were there no negroes, hispanics or asians in the Beverly Hills90210 series? on: July 02, 2014, 01:04:19 PM
By class was referring to the economical status of some BH's citizens.

One persons financial class  (middle income, etc)is relative to which area they might live in. 50 thousand per year in BH's is low. 50 thousand per year in rural Mississippi (second longest word I learned to spell in school..the first was my family name..26 letters) might be considered high. Mississippi is the poorest state in the union.

Eastern edges of BH's might be considered as a poorer area, all thing being relative.
9  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Why were there no negroes, hispanics or asians in the Beverly Hills90210 series? on: July 02, 2014, 09:20:19 AM
There are apartment building in BH's that serve less than affluent people.  Not talking Watt's lower class (though some parts of Watt's are fairly up sale middle class areas), talking BH's class.  As Mr. Anabolic seems to be on the upper scale of finances, he's entitled to his own views. Mr. Anavolic also seems to fall into the ultra rich class..God bless him for that.

As said before, quite a few folks sacrifice high rents, or leases, just for that zip number. And are living beyond their means when most of their money goes for rents. It's all about appearances in that part of LA...most of LA actually. So again, BH is not totally rich, another urban myth.
10  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Why were there no negroes, hispanics or asians in the Beverly Hills90210 series? on: July 02, 2014, 08:48:15 AM
Worked on little Santa Monica blvd in the early 90's. Saw more than enough Iranians and Saudi's , very into gold jewelry at that time, driving big buck benz's along Wilshire & Redeo. Also Jewish, so pretty much middle eastern influence. A few token blacks, though mostly very hot black women...usually some rich white man's current toy. Jewish men seem attracted to black or Asian women...I know I am and I'm not Jewish. The rich from Japan were there, put keeping a low profile..their nature I guess.

Never watch BH90210, so know nothing about the show. Beverly Hills is not totally rich. Some middle class, to lower class, living there. That zip code 90210 is highly valued by some people and will pay extra on rent, or a lease, even if the can't afford it, just to have that zip #.

I live with my uncles, above Melrose, at that time. Took a few weekend jobs there about 10 years ago, so BH's may have changed a bit..but I doubt it.
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Any one utilize stiff legged deads facing the pad in a hack machine? on: June 29, 2014, 09:27:49 AM
BB Hack squats, one of my favorite movements for years. And yes, it can be referred to as a reverse DL, without having the knees in the way problem and leaning too far forward (puts extra stress on the lower back and potential injury) for a lot of guys.

Only thing I might differ with, from the guy in the video, is the depth . Might suggest going lower, where the butt touches, or comes very near, the bar. Have also raised heels, on a 2X4, for more direct focus on the quads. Either way, raised heels of flat footed, an excellent quad builder.

 His pin suggest was also good. When I'm doing heavier BB Hacks, it will be in a PR with different pin positions, anywhere from 3-4 inches to the top position to mid thigh level. May surprise your self with the amount of weight you can handle with a higher pin position. I almost always include Romanian DL/SLDL's when doing BB Hacks.

Good Luck.
12  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Traps on: June 27, 2014, 10:08:10 AM
Interesting.  The very, very few I've seen do this will start with reverse shrugs and when the rep get harder, continue with the reverse Hi-pulls/Upright's. Or Vice Versa in some cases.  Good combo pump, I would think.

Though needing a full ROM still remains a myth today in BB'ing. The bigger, stronger men seem to favor partial reps in all their workouts...and with ultimate success. But than again, if full ROM's work for you...than go for it. In the video that guy is raising the bar as high as he can, so that could be considered a full ROM for him.

Good Luck.
13  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Injury and Rehabilitation / Re: What would you do? on: June 24, 2014, 11:59:23 AM
In a way Falco is right, some injuries just do not go away but seem to hang on forever. The less serious can usually be worked around. The other's..not so much. Think your healed, than that same thing pop's up again. Things might be going great for weeks & months in training than, unexpected, there it is again. A genetic weakness, or imbalance, in that specific area may have a lot to do with lingering injuries also.

There are sports rehab centers that work with muscle imbalance, targeting a weaker muscle and the imbalance it may cause to sports performance. Nerve pathways that are damaged and misalined  can be readjusted somewhat through deep tissue massage, electric impulse stimulation, etc.. Even imagining/visualization training for better muscle memory. leading to better performance to avoid injury. No sure bet any of the above will work 100%.

That tricep injury may be just one of those things that can linger on & on.  Hopefully not.
14  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Injury and Rehabilitation / Re: What would you do? on: June 24, 2014, 08:58:41 AM
First I would question the abilities of the doctor(s) who did the somewhat common surgery and the rehab center you went to after the surgery. If the second surgery was by the same doctor and the same rehab center was used for recovery...than you may have a serious medical malpractice or rehab procedure problem.  Was it laser surgery, I wonder? Did you layoff long enough for the tendon to heal 110%? Tear at the lower or  upper inserts of the triceps? How long ago was the last operation and how long the rehab?

Far as weight training goes, might suggest not doing any direct pressing exercises. If, or when, returning to workouts, keep the triceps area warm with long sleeves, stick on heat pads, etc.. Also apply a heating element, like lotions, rubs, etc. Might also avoid and extreme stretching, like pullovers, pulldowns, etc.

Just use caution and common sense when going through a recovery stage.  Caution & common sense, qualities lost on many BB'ers after any kind of surgery. In some cases, very minor tears have been knows to heals themselves naturally. Yours seems to be not the case.

Good Luck.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Less than 11.4% are in the 225 bench club on: June 23, 2014, 09:03:35 AM
Can use a medical, or even a carpenters, caliper to measure shoulder width and joint thickness.  Also rib box/chest depth. Can use a tape to measure around the shoulder girdle, which can give a much truer ideas of the over all thickness of the shoulders. Next time passing by the local morgue ask to borrow one of their calipers.

No caliper...than a simple way is have a friend use a yard stick to measure shoulder width. Or, standing with the back against a wall, have this friend mark the end of the shoulder (each side). while holding a 12" ruler (or another flat object) against the outer delt.

Sorry no device invented yet to measure the ego's of some BB'ers.  That would be off the charts.

I find that quite a few college and Pro basketball players have outstanding shoulder width. Also football players. Their called wide bodies, for a good reason. Just natural, that's all. A few actually have to move sideways a bit to get through a normal size door. Taylor made shirts and suits, of course. door.

Good Luck.
16  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Less than 11.4% are in the 225 bench club on: June 22, 2014, 10:03:43 AM
Even pressing overhead, with the bar resting in a PR, on a "A" frame, supports, etc might prove a challenge. Imagine if that same BB'er had to clean that bar into position and than press it overhead with a weight equal to his own bwt. Hate to think of how low that percentage would be.

Funny thing is, cleans & overhead presses, by themselves, have proven to be two of the better upper body mass builders. Which most BB'ers seemed to have overlooked when looking for size and power, and getting that size & power fairly quickly. Treat them with  regular BB'ing reps of 7-10 and 3 to 4 sets, and most guy's may surprise themselves with the results.



Good Luck.
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Less than 11.4% are in the 225 bench club on: June 22, 2014, 08:37:34 AM
Agree totally with that around 11% benching.

 Between 220 to 245 (always seems like a kind of mental block when approaching the 250 mark.)  seems about right for  even experienced men.  Have to be more or less born to be well above the average for serious benching. It just seems to come naturally to some trainees. like I personally know that two of my cousins benched 400+ in high school. No special workouts, that just what they did. Have to have that genetic balanced of triceps, pec's, delts, plus the back/lat structure working in harmony to get max effort for any style bench.  Heavier joints also help.

Just to note: seem women lifters get within the mid 300's in a honest bench. Seen 400 lbs lockouts, partials off of pins for quite a few more women.. Power rack pin positions can really advance the bench for a lot of lifters, men or women. Guy's don't seriously work the weakest link of the bench; the starting position off the chest. If they did, that 11% average would be much, much higher. And perhaps 300 lbs would be the mean average. As far as a 3 to 4 inch lockout, for benches, 400 is easily within range for most guy's. and even 500+ is not out of the question. Your adapting the body to be using heavier weights with this type training.

Wonder what the percentage would be for military pressing a weight equal to a lifters own bwt.

Good Luck.

Good Luck.
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 90% of Gym Rats literally have no clue what musculature failure is. on: June 08, 2014, 07:59:44 AM
This post is a good example about being all about yourself. And what a muscle marvel, great inspiration to common people and  trainer you are...the ultimate ego trip.

The "gym rat" (real or not ) ploy is only used to highlight yourself. Using color letters and whatever faces is about someone who seeks attention or just doesn't understand. Guy's who use all caps can be included.  That stuff should have stopped in grade school.

Your muscle failure concepts is totally misguided. Thinking maybe your have been reading too many muscle mags and watching too many "How Mr. Big Ball's of 2010 trains" video's. And all the other crap on how the Pro's train and their secret methods.

Far as being pissed of:  better to be pissed off than pissed on.
 
19  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Do tall fellas have a weak bench? on: June 05, 2014, 08:36:15 AM
Falco, so true.

The average height of American men is around 5'9 1/2, but so many different body types to really take the height as a main issue would be a mistake. Some shorter, thinner men can be naturally very strong. Some taller heavier men, surprisingly very weak.

The general conscience is that strength is the ability to move a heavy object over a distance. Power is the ability to more that same weighted object, over a distance, faster. Can also add quickness here, though quickness and being fast are a bit different.

As OldTimer1 suggest: Power Lifting may be considered a strength sport, with the slower movement of a weight not requiring extreme speed.. While Olympic lifting may be considered a power sport , with more speed needed. Quickness comes into play when the Olympic lifter must quickly get under the bar and catch it (as with cleans or snatches) as the height of the bar increases from the floor.

If anyone is into strongmen events, than the importance of doing both style of training  (PL'ing & OL'ing) becomes very clear, right away. For BB'ers, doing a few sets of squat cleans, may produce some surprising muscular gains in the quads and upper body...and quickly.

Good Luck.
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Obama to Compete in Olympia on: June 04, 2014, 08:10:12 AM
The Prez is trying to give the image of a strong and masculine leader, by this staged workout. In real life, if he did use that hotel gym, everyone would be cleared out and the walls would be lined with secret service men.

Hope the Prez never takes off his shirt in public, like Putin often does (maybe a pose down between the both of them)...that would be tragic for this country. With Michelle, she looks like she has twice the muscle mass than the Prez.  And probably could out lift him. She always looks pissed anyway

The Prez's workout video...Failed!!!
21  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Do tall fellas have a weak bench? on: June 03, 2014, 08:53:49 AM
As OldTimer1 said, basic physics.  Weight + energy + distance + time.  Include body type leverage; bone length, muscle inserts, joints, tendon/ligament. Were all fighting gravity, push-pulling a weight/object away from earth.

If benching 300-325lbs (about average from most experience lifters..if being honest) for 8 reps, the taller man may actually be a better bencher than a shorter man. Given the above example, a taller man may be working almost twice as hard as the shorter (and perhaps , better leveraged) man over a longer distance (height). All relative to the individual bencher, of course.

The stronger lifters  are the Olympic lifters (short or tall), as opposed to PL'ers. Just the fact that a weight is lifted, at a longer distance (from the ground to overhead...that distance & gravity thing again), than any power lift. Olympic lifters also are quicker at lifting overhead, another factor in  basic strength . Most PL'ers can DL 400lbs, no problem.  Not too many of these same men can clean that 400. Or snatch that same weight.

 Not that Olympic lifters are better than PL'ers...just a different approach and use of controlled power and athletic abilities. Both are extremely powerful and hard working lifters in their sports. Using Olympic and Pl'ing movement, in a complete workout protocol may to a good advantage for a lot of men, including BB'ers..

Good Luck.

Good Luck.

22  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Barbell pull overs for Lats on: May 29, 2014, 08:58:10 AM
Pullovers, straight or bent arms, are a potential great exercise, worth the time and effort put into it. The full stretch being the key.

If a BB'er  wanting complete TUT (Time Under Tension) with the straight arm version, without losing that tension on the lats, than stop short of that top position. Bring the bar/db/swing bar to about the 3/4 lever, or when you feel the affect on the lats reduced. At that point, lower the bar back down to the full stretch position. This allows more of a complete tension on those lats. Also should get an excellent pump.

Try for a faster pace when doing this version of straight arm pullovers. But never forget the all important full stretch. Have noticed some, who are new to this exercise, use a too wide of a grip on a bar. Which can cause undo stress on the shoulder joints.  If using a bar, than try for a little less that shoulder grip. Actually, the closer the better, in which case might suggest using a DB or Swing Bell. A EZ bar seems to work well also.

Which ever you use (bar/db/swing bell) never completely lock the elbows, but allow a slight break/bend to them. Though this exercise is not a power movement and a lot of weight is not required, a 100lb + will not be out of the question when getting seriously into straight are pullovers.

I come in contact with a few older gentlemen  (55-70+) who would like to improve their older age posture/slouch/bent over look. The suggestion of moderate weight pullovers (either straight arm. bent arm or both) along with shoulder shrugs (traps) has improved most very well.  

As far as bent arm pullovers go: in my view (whatever) it can be a prime upper body mass builder. Art Jones build his pullover machine on this concept and had said the the pullover was the upper body squat, as far as getting results were concern. Doing the bent arm pullover with the added presses (pullover & press) even advances this superior exercise much, much more.

Good Luck.

Good Luck.

23  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Hamstrings on: May 28, 2014, 08:25:31 AM
The Nautilus leg curl machine (any version), with the 3 phase cam action, will probably give the best results for most guy's. Used in rehab centers for many years now. Tension is never reduced for the full ROM.

As mentioned above, manual resistance from a training partner (both positive & negative) seem also to be on a par with the Nautilus leg curl machines. Also the tension can be kept throughout the full ROM. Usually one leg at a time.

While kneeling down, place the heels/ankles under a padded bar, strap, etc..or have a training partner hold the ankles firmly down, as you lower forward and raise the body back up again works great on the hams. This requires a proper warm-up before attempting, as any serious ham exercise does. Stretch before starting the first set...of course.  See quite a few men & women athletes doing these. Don't need any special equipment and can be done just about anywhere.

Good Luck.
24  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Hamstrings on: May 25, 2014, 10:11:05 AM
I think you want to balance the hams with the legs, if I'm not mistaken, keeping up with the much more powerful legs...not over build one or the other.

Best results seem to be a combo of stretching and actual direct leg curls. Can't do one without the other if wanting to reach full potential of leg strength. Working each leg , one at a time, seems also to get the best results.

Might suggest, as a ham warm-up, placing the toes on a 2X4/BB plate. Keeping the total back/spine straight, chest out and hands gripped behind the back. This is a bwt stretch only. Bend forward, knees lightly locked, as far as you can...and hold for a couple of seconds. than back up. Going to feel a different kind of stretch because of the toes on the 2X4. The calves will also feel it strongly. Try for 20 reps, or so. Actually, some athletes will do these throughout the day.

First exercise will be step-ups...on a bench, box or platform (adjustable types). Try for aheight of just below you knees. Some guy's do these with a BB on the shoulders, some holding a DB. I favor the DB's, but help yourself to which you like. Different influence on the hams/hips & legs from each version. Can't really say one version is better than the other one. Depends on body type. 8-10 reps

Second movements will be the one legged leg curl. Would suggest standing, as a first option, but again..your choice. 8-10 reps.

By far the best leg curl exercise would be from hands on resistance from a training partner, one leg at a time. A partner would hold one leg as you attempted to curl it up, allowing a slow contraction of the leg biceps. Can work this way with both positive and negative applied force to the hams  and in the same set.


Generally I would add Romanian Deadlifts for hams...but you have a back issue. RDL's are a great movement for hams, hip and lower back. Just to note, strong hams can add to your squatting power, which most guy's find out to their surprise.

Good Luck
25  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Knee Pain!!!!!!!!!!! on: May 25, 2014, 09:28:29 AM
As far as you double knee pains, could be the results of a lot of things. Might be lightly inflamed /strained, allowing undo stress.

You using new shoes, trying a different foot spacing when squatting, or jogging on ruff or uneven surfaces?

Leg extensions are used in many rehab centers, with a  somewhat limited ROM.

But when locking out, and even holding that position for a few seconds can have negative affects of the joints/ligament/muscles of the knee structure. Usually happens with a heavier weight that most guy's aren't ready to handle yet. Leg extensions are not a power lift. Just a personal view, but would never suggest doing heavier leg extensions...for lifters or BB'ers.

Always a good idea to keep the knee area warm, to encourage a ample blood supply to the area, which the knee (by nature) does not always get. Heating lotions/pads/patches all good. Wearing sweats, knee warmers, etc also suggested. Taking a few weeks off from any direct leg movements may be something to consider. Rest always seems to heal a aching body part quite well.

Good Luck.

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