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101  Getbig Alternative Boards / Y Board - The Player's Club / Re: 4th of July plans on: July 03, 2014, 08:42:59 AM
Heading to the mountains in a couple hours for a few days.

Are there any rattlesnakes up there?
102  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am Heartbroken. on: July 03, 2014, 08:26:38 AM
TA, it could have been Cushing's Disease.

Did the vet ever consider this diagnosis?

My Cairn Terrier had this, and was properly diagnose.  She lived until she was 15.

I don't think there is a test to diagnose Cushing's, only tests to rule it out.  I had a dog that was treated for it for years, but we (the vet and I) were never entirely sure she had it.  She lived to 19.


103  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am Heartbroken. on: July 03, 2014, 08:03:05 AM
My puppy is trying to eat our blinds right now, instead of scolding him I just gave him a hug (which he probably liked less than a scolding). Sucks to lose your dog, hope the other one is doing ok.

Re-direction works very well.
104  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am Heartbroken. on: July 03, 2014, 08:00:58 AM
Sad

Jimmy was one of the greats.   Cry
Hard to watch that without getting choked up 
Cry
105  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am Heartbroken. on: July 03, 2014, 07:59:08 AM
Lol. I see loads of dead squirrels on roads lately, tells me squirrels are doing well in the fuck race. Used to be none here 20 years ago.

Yeah, those little bastards keep eating my birdseed  Angry
106  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am Heartbroken. on: July 03, 2014, 07:55:01 AM
Maybe immediate family could be tough, but I've always preferred the company of animals over people, so I might be a bad gauge. Tongue

That explains it!
 Sad



 Grin
107  Getbig Womens Area / Open Talk for Girl Discussion / Re: Neil DeGrasse Tyson Says What He Thinks on Race... on: July 03, 2014, 07:36:51 AM
Commonly confused English words
    Accept / Except
    Affect / Effect
    A Lot / Alot
    Allusion / Illusion
    All Ready / Already
    Altogether / All Together
    Apart / A Part
    Ascent / Assent
    Breath / Breathe
    Capital / Capitol
    Cite / Sight / Site
    Complement / Compliment
    Conscience / Conscious
    Council / Counsel
    Elicit / Illicit
    Eminent / Immanent / Imminent
    Its / It's
    Lead / Led
    Lie / Lay
    Lose / Loose
    Novel
    Passed / Past
    Precede / Procede
    Principal / Principle
    Quote / Quotation
    Reluctant / Reticent
    Stationary / Stationery
    Supposed To / Suppose
    Than / Then
    Their / There / They're
    Through / Threw / Thorough / Though / Thru
    To / Too / Two
    Who / Which / That
    Who / Whom
108  Getbig Womens Area / Open Talk for Girl Discussion / Re: Neil DeGrasse Tyson Says What He Thinks on Race... on: July 03, 2014, 07:33:46 AM
So wrong that these nitwits can become teatchers, June, totally agree. Off course I have no idea to what extend the problem exists.

Please agree to the terms & conditions so you can be added to the "approved" list and continue posting. 
Thanks.
109  Getbig Misc Too Board / Getbig Comments Suggestions Complaints Board / Re: New Mod on: July 02, 2014, 07:43:39 PM
110  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am Heartbroken. on: July 02, 2014, 05:33:44 PM
The greatness of a society and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals.
~Mahatma Gandhi

We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals.
~Immanuel Kant

Animals are such agreeable friends - they ask no questions, they pass no criticisms.
~George Eliot

                                                   All cruelty springs from weakness
                                                  ~Seneca (4 BC - AD 65)

111  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am Heartbroken. on: July 02, 2014, 03:33:21 PM
White people and dogs...oh, brother.  Roll Eyes

I'm going to hold my tongue on this one.  Wouldn't want to be called a racist
  Roll Eyes
112  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Pet Board / In Home Hospice & Euthanasia on: July 02, 2014, 03:25:08 PM
All of us who have fur babies will probably have to go through this at some point.  Anticipating the euthanasia of a pet, taking them in, the cold, sterile, medicinal environment of a "procedure room"... the whole experience is very stressful for the pet and you.  Our pets pick up on that "energy" we put out.  Since it's inevitable we're all going to have to go through it, we might as well make it as peaceful as possible.

I recently had experience with http://www.lapoflove.com  (I'm sure there are others) and many vets will do in home euthanasia if you ask.  This was by far the only way I would ever consider handling the situation in the future (if it's something that is being planned for).  It makes the best of a horrible situation.  The pet is in their own environment, surrounded by those who love them, and they go peacefully.



 “Doc, how will I know when it’s time?”
 
We have heard from countless pet owners that the death of their pet was worse than the death of their own parents.  This might sound blasphemous to some, but to others it’s the cold truth.  Making the decision to euthanize a pet can feel gut-wrenching, murderous, and immoral.  Families feel like they are letting their pet down or that they are the cause of their friend’s death.  They forget that euthanasia is a gift, something that, when used appropriately and timely, prevents further physical suffering for the pet and emotional suffering of the family.  Making the actual decision is the hardest part of the experience and I’m asked on a daily basis, “Doc, how will I know when it’s time?”  Let us shed some light on this difficult discussion.
 
As veterinarians, our job is to assist the family in the decision-making.  There is not one perfect moment in time in which to make that ultimate choice (unless the pet is truly suffering, something we are trying to prevent in the first place).  Rather, there is a subjective time period in which euthanasia is an appropriate decision to make.  This time period could be hours, days, weeks, or even months.  Before this subjective period of time veterinarians will refuse to euthanize a pet because a good quality of life still exists. After this period, however, we may push for euthanasia due to obvious sustained suffering.  During this larger subjective time however, it is truly dependent on the family to make whatever decision is best for them.  Some owners need time to come to terms with the decline of their pet while others want to prevent any unnecessary suffering at all.
 
Everyone is different and entitled to their own thoughts.  After all, pet owners know their pet better than anyone, even the vet!
 
Pain and Anxiety
Pain is one of the most important topics that we discuss in veterinary hospice care.  Many professionals believe that carnivorous animals, such as cats and dogs, do not “hide” their pain, rather pain simply doesn’t bother them the same way it bothers humans.  Animals do not have an emotional attachment to their pain like we do.  Humans react to the diagnosis of cancer much differently than Fluffy does!  Fluffy doesn’t know she has a terminal illness, it bothers us more than it bothers her.  This is vastly different than prey animals like rabbits or guinea pigs, who must hide their pain to prevent carnivorous attacks.  If you’re interested in learning more about pain and suffering in pets, grab Temple Grandin’s book “Animals in Translation” and read chapter 5. 
 
When discussing the decision to euthanize, we should be just as concerned about anxiety in our pet as we are about pain.  Frankly, anxiety is worse than pain in animals.  Think about the last time your dog went to the vet.  How was his behavior?  Was he nervous in the exam room?  Did he give you that look that said “this is terrible!”?  Now think back to when he last hurt himself, perhaps scraping his paw or straining a muscle after running too hard.  My dog rarely looks as distraught when she’s in pain as she does when she is anxious.  It’s the same for animals that are dying.  For example, many end-stage arthritis canine patients begin panting, pacing, whining, and/or crying, but many of these symptoms are due to anxiety, usually arising secondarily from the pain.  This is akin to being stung by a bee but not seeing the bee itself; you may be more anxious at the lack of knowledge of the origin of the pain (and therefore about the unknown duration or potential augmentation by more bees) instead of strictly the pain alone.  Due to hormonal fluctuations and other factors, these signs of anxiety usually appear worse at night.  The body is telling the carnivorous dog that he is no longer at the top of the food chain; he has been demoted and if he lies down, he will become someone else’s dinner.  Anti-anxiety medications can sometimes work for but for pets that are at this stage, the end is usually near. 
 
Waiting Too Long
An interesting trend that we did not expect when starting our hospice practice is that the more times families experience the loss of a pet, the sooner they make the decision to euthanize.  Owners experiencing the decline or terminal illness of a pet for the first time will generally wait until the very end to make that difficult decision.  They are fearful of doing it too soon and giving up without a good fight.  Afterwards, however, most of these owners regret waiting too long.  They reflect back on the past days, weeks, or months, and feel guilty for putting their pet through those numerous trips to the vet or uncomfortable medical procedures that did not improve their pet’s quality of life.  The next time they witness the decline of a pet, they are much more likely to make the decision at the beginning of the decline instead of the end.   
 
What about a natural death?
Yes, there are those pets that peacefully fall asleep and pass naturally on their own, but just as in humans, this type of peaceful death is rare.  Many owners fear their pet “passing alone” while others do not.  Occasionally we are asked to help families through the natural dying process with their pet.  For different reasons, these families are against euthanasia.  We explain everything we possibly can, from how a natural death may look, how long it may take, what their pet may experience, etc.  Inevitably, almost all of these families regret doing this.  Most of them comment afterwards “I wish I would not have done that, I wish she didn’t have to suffer.”  A natural death can be difficult to watch, especially for non-medically oriented people.  Most people can watch a human family member in pain much more easily than they can their pet.  To an extent, we can talk other humans through physical pain or discomfort, but there is no comforting a pet that is suffering.  Families take this guilt difficultly and we do our very best to not only readily suggest euthanasia when appropriate, but prepare families for a “worst-case” scenario should they chose to wait.  (Of course death is nothing to be fearful of and if your pet does happen to pass on his or her own, it is certainly not a bad thing; it happens in natural frequently!)
 
Weigh Your Options Carefully
If the most important thing to you is waiting until the last possible minute to say goodbye to your baby, you will most likely be facing an emergency, stress-filled, sufferable condition for your pet.  It may not be peaceful and you may regret waiting too long.  If a peaceful, calm, loving, family-oriented, in-home end of life experience is what you wish for your pet, then you will probably need to make the decision a little sooner than you want.  Making that decision should not be about ceasing any suffering that has already occurred, but about preventing suffering from occurring in the first place.  Above all, our pet do not deserve to hurt. 
 
We are here to help make this time a bit easier on everyone.  Veterinary hospice care is aimed at maintaining comfort, quality of life, and the human animal bond for as long as needed; we are here for you!

http://www.lapoflove.com/Pet_Quality_of_Life_Scale.pdf
113  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am Heartbroken. on: July 02, 2014, 02:50:50 PM
Thanks for this.  All the time we spend with them is worth it.  In fact, if ever asked what makes me happiest, I always say being with my dogs.  Its so difficult to think of what it is like without them, but its also equally difficult thinking about going through it all again.  

Do you think you will ever have another dog and have you come close to getting another?


There really are MANY reasons to rescue an animal and integrate them into your life.  I can only think of selfish reasons not to ... Undecided
114  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am Heartbroken. on: July 02, 2014, 02:18:39 PM
This is not exactly the appropriate thread to post this (thread about TA's loss), so I will also put something on the pet board too.  

All of us who have fur babies will probably have to go through this at some point.  Anticipating the euthanasia of a pet, taking them in, the cold, sterile, medicinal environment of a "procedure room"... the whole experience is very stressful for the pet and you.  Our pets pick up on that "energy" we put out.  Since it's inevitable we're all going to have to go through it, we might as well make it as peaceful as possible.

I recently had experience with http://www.lapoflove.com  (I'm sure there are others) and many vets will do in home euthanasia if you ask.  This was by far the only way I would ever consider handling the situation in the future (if it's something that is being planned for).  It makes the best of a horrible situation.  The pet is in their own environment, surrounded by those who love them, and they go peacefully.  
115  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am Heartbroken. on: July 02, 2014, 01:57:33 PM
No vaccinations.  Last year at this time, she developed an intense thirst for water and would drink bowls full.  I was taking her outside every 2-3 hours.  She acted normal though despite the water drinking.  Then, she began to lose a bit of fur on her shoulders and she had some sort of skin infection/flaking.   We took her in and they couldn`t really find anything, but decided that a Tick-Borne disease may be the culprit as it is common in Greyhounds.  They can get bit at a young age and carry the disease for years before it manifests.  She then started developing a sort of dementia, but it would clear every now and then.  Then it just got worse and worse.  She would pace uncontrollably and I would sit with her for hours trying to calm her and it would work.   The last few weeks were the worst.  She never cried out in pain or anything though.  We started the Doxycycline again a few days ago thinking maybe it was a flare up of the Tick-Borne Disease.

I am not quite sure she ever even had one though.  Undecided

Sorry for your loss.  It's the hardest part of including a pet in your life.  Don't let it discourage you from giving another deserving fur baby a good life even though it's hard to think about that right now.  Also, don't second guess yourself on any part of this last year.  It will drive you insane.  Just know, you & Jez gave her the best life she could possibly have.
116  Getbig Alternative Boards / Y Board - The Player's Club / Re: Patron,Grey Goose,and Coors Light. on: July 01, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
Will try.

I was introduced to Espolon by a friend of mine who said it was made right nearby where he grew up in Mexico.  He said it's every bit the tequilia Patron, etc is, it just doesn't have the marketing hype behind it.

It's only $25 per 750ml by me.  I drink it straight.

Looks like the Espolon is either a Silver or a Reposado.  The 1921 pictured is Tequila Creme' and it's hands down better than Bailey's.
117  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Butt Ugly Cars on: July 01, 2014, 08:18:40 PM
Maybe a good option for the blue hairs in an Arizona or Florida retirement community.
 Lips sealed


118  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Pet Board / Re: Dogs Left in Cars on: July 01, 2014, 05:21:06 PM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uba1Np4qhOo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uba1Np4qhOo</a>
119  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The party pooper on: July 01, 2014, 02:41:33 PM
Whenever I stoop down to get something in the shower I always imagine myself looking like Arnold when he arrives from the future.

I probably look like a fat naked person would doing the gardening.

Kinda like this?


 Grin
120  Getbig Misc Too Board / Getbig Comments Suggestions Complaints Board / Re: New Mod on: July 01, 2014, 12:49:20 PM
fuck princess l  Kiss

she has got her panties in a bunch because i keep her little beta twinks in line

ron has said no anyway

i wont recover  Angry

Must've had quite the impact.  Ron usually doesn't respond so quickly  Grin
121  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ObamaCare Supporters Explain Hobby Lobby Case on: July 01, 2014, 12:47:02 PM
A liberal would just think that evil rich people should pay for both anyway

122  Getbig Alternative Boards / Y Board - The Player's Club / Re: Patron,Grey Goose,and Coors Light. on: July 01, 2014, 12:27:30 PM
Have you ever had Ciroq coconut vodka Huh.....damn it's good Grin
it was a late edition to the recipe...I saw it on the bar while I was making the sangria and said "What the hell, I'll try some of this and see how it tastes" Grin
 



...Ciroq amaretto is also really good.

It's official!  Calvin has gone soft core Grin


Try some of this and get back to me
  Kiss

123  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Random pics on: July 01, 2014, 10:34:05 AM





Is this the new way to induce labor  Huh

124  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The party pooper on: July 01, 2014, 10:30:14 AM
This one certainly is a close 2nd

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFzwGg46waM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFzwGg46waM</a>
125  Getbig Alternative Boards / Y Board - The Player's Club / Re: Patron,Grey Goose,and Coors Light. on: July 01, 2014, 10:17:56 AM


Lol, I have it written down, I'll get back to you.



...it does have red wine, peach schnapps, and coconut vodka, nom,nom,nom Smiley

Okay ~ now that does sound homo  Undecided  very girly sweet

You lost me at schnapps and coconut
  Lips sealed
 Grin
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