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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: How long are eggs good for?
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on: June 06, 2006, 09:11:38 PM
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They will keep for about a week in the shell, 2-3 weeks if peeled and placed in a freezer bag.
 Really?
Did you guys know about the codes on egg cartons?
I used to pay attention to the code, but I go thru them so fast, I just go by the exp. date.
"The day of the year that the eggs are processed and placed into the carton must also be shown on each carton with the USDA grade shield. The number is a three-digit code that represents the consecutive day of the year. For example, January 1 is shown as "001" and December 31 as "365." Typically, eggs are packed within 1 to 7 days of being laid. The pack date in this example is "218", meaning that the eggs were packed on the 218th day of the year, or in this example, August 5. If your carton shows a USDA grade shield, you can determine the date that the eggs were packed from the carton date code" |
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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: GNC
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on: June 06, 2006, 11:05:28 AM
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Dear Princess... How did a nice webboard like you end up working in a girl like this? My posts in this thread were suicided....  Will this one be next? Time will tell. GNC sells a lot of gimmicks... Online prices + delievery to my house is far superior... I need more coffee 
Wasn’t me dear and quite frankly, I don’t agree with the fact that they were deleted. I do not delete or modify something just because someone asks. Rules were not violated IMO. Apparently, when the ‘report to mod’ button is used; all mods for that board get notified.
I received no less than six requests to delete posts within this thread or delete it in it’s entirety. I considered addressing things privately, however, the more belligerent and demanding the requester became, I felt it appropriate to address it publicly ~ hence the “friendly advice” post ~ which probably doesn't make a whole lotta sense taken out of context now that so much has been removed 
Those who have participated in this thread from the beginning know what I’m talking about and I hope understand the intent of advice and agree with my reasoning.
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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: yohimbe bark
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on: June 05, 2006, 01:51:31 PM
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Before you run out and stock up on yohimbe, a couple of things. First is that if you’re not
already reasonably lean to begin with, yohimbe won’t be of much use to you. The body will take fat off from the most readily accessible areas first and stubborn fat is stubborn for a reason.
Additionally, yohimbe, especially the herbal form, can cause all kinds of weird side-effects.
People often report a combination of sweats and chills along with a feeling that their heart is going to
come out of their chest when they exercise (yohimbe also improves blood flow to the genitals which
can lead to some potential embarrassment at the gym; it does not, contrary to popular belief, affect
testosterone levels).
Finally, yohimbe is best used prior to aerobic activity although it still might have an effect for a lean dieter doing a crash diet without aerobics.
You should NEVER mix EC and yohimbe; in fact, you shouldn’t take them within about 4 hours of one another. The reason is that the side effects of each will multiply and both blood pressure and heart rate can really jump. If you decide to use yohimbe (the yohimbine HCL form is the better choice; less side
effects) the effective dose would be 0.2 mg yohimbe per kilogram of bodyweight or about .1 mg per
pound consumed with 100-200 mg of caffeine. This would be taken 30-60 minutes before low intensity
aerobics (preferably first thing in the morning before eating). So a 150 lb dieter would
get just under 15 mg of yohimbe. As with EC it’s a good idea to start with a half-dose to assess your
tolerance. If you are also using the EC stack, your doses should be taken no closer than 4 hours to the
dose of yohimbe/caffeine. So you could do a yohimbe/caffeine combo at 7am prior to morning
aerobics and take EC at noon and 4 pm.
Hope this helps.
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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: whats the best way to gain weight?
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on: June 05, 2006, 01:41:27 PM
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is there something I can get, that wont give me the shits......because the protien i'm taking seeming to give me stomach problems.
The product you have is not considered a PROTEIN supplement. I'd suggest using something basic and economical such as 100% Whey by ON. Don't trash your existing product, you could use smaller portions of it in your post workout protein shake. |
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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: whats the best way to gain weight?
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on: June 05, 2006, 01:35:53 PM
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what's so confusing about eating peanut butter sandwhiches that you don't understand?
please don't post when your not saying anything helpful
I understand peanut butter sandwiches just fine - ask anyone around here - I UNDERSTAND PEANUT BUTTER  I guess it's a question of whether someone is looking to put on quality or just add numbers to the scale and secondly, this statement "you shouldn't be taking weight gainer unless your using steroids..." is just flat out stupid. |
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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Pictures of Members & More / Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
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on: June 04, 2006, 09:55:05 PM
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Repeat I've posted this before. Save it for later. Maybe you'll find it helpful.By: Dr. Joe Klemczewski
I could fill a book with the quotes I hear at contests from competitors who placed from second to last in their class. There are many versions, but just one quote. I'll paraphrase: "I screwed up my peak." That's it - end of quote. It's usually sandwiched in a paragraph including words like carb loading, sodium manipulation, water depletion, and it always comes right before the line, "I tried something new this time." Now, I'm talking about legitimate peaking screw-ups, of which there are many.
Why Most Fail...
The one thing I want to eliminate from your mind at the beginning of this article is to blame your body fat percentage on peaking. Some people start peak week at 14% body fat and think that by doing one neat, new little trick that they read about, they'll wake up Saturday morning looking like Frank Zane. You've seen them. The ones at 8% body fat who say, "Yeah, I was just holding a little water today." This article isn't for them. This is for people who know how to dial in on contest shape and now want to know exactly what to do in order to wake up Saturday morning and shout, "Eureka! (or 'Damn!' -if you're on the East Coast) - I did it!! I finally nailed my peak!!"
First of all, let's begin with how you should plan to enter peak week. If you still have to be concerned with losing "the last couple pounds" in the week before the show, you won't be able to peak properly. Peak week should be thought of as recovering slightly, being fresh, and focusing just on making sure the muscles are full and hard yet visible because of proper subcutaneous water elimination. Fat elimination should be over before this last week.
The next thing I want to erase from your thought process is the myth that you have to make extreme changes to manipulate your body into looking good on contest day. You've no doubt experimented with massive sodium loading and depletion, varying carb loading schemes, and endless water depletion schedules to try to be your biggest, hardest, and driest all at one time. You also have probably experienced the shock at looking at a flat, shriveled up, smooth physique (with it's mouth gaping open in terror) in the mirror six hours before prejudging. DO NOT PLAN ON DOING ANYTHING DRASTIC DURING PEAK WEEK!
Your body is constantly being monitored by your brain with thousands of chemoreceptors that are sending feedback on millions of chemical reactions happening in the body. It's how your brain manages to balance the chemical necessities for life. This vast neuro-hormonal-chemical network is brutally dynamic and always in flux. I'm not smart enough to predict and override these millions of reactions in my body to create an unnatural super-compensation effect exactly at prejudging and then maintain it all day.
Neither are you. What we can do is understand the cycles that our body goes through in directing water into muscles or outside of the muscle cells, the way our body stores carbohydrates, and how to gently massage these cycles so that we ride the right wave into the right day and predictably peak perfectly and naturally instead of trying to force a freaky, extreme response. That is a gamble you'll lose nine times out of ten.
How To Properly Peak...
When I peak a bodybuilder, I control protein, carbs, fat, sodium, water, and training. We start seven days from the show and I provide a chart that tells the athlete exactly what to do in what amounts each day for the entire week. I use these variables to control the normal cycles of water and glycogen flow in and out of the muscle tissue. We start out the week in a certain pattern and then each day the variables change in a subtle way to be able to predict and control peaking. Obviously, every bodybuilder is different in the amounts of each of the variables.
Some people have unbelievably fast metabolisms and some people are very carb-sensitive - two extreme differences which dictate different amounts of each nutrient variable and a slightly different schedule. But, the actual flow and cycle is still very similar. It is important to know and understand what to expect on each day so you know how to adjust. For this reason, even my "long-distance" clients have daily communication with me during peak week. I want to go through each of these variables and give you some physiological insight to why peaking is so elusive.
Carbing-up is the great myth started and continuing with 250-pound steroid using bodybuilders who consume huge amounts of food anyway and then take prescription diuretics to eliminate the steroid bloat. If this describes you, traditional carb depletion and loading may work. If you're body isn't an eighth grade science experiment out of control, let's stick with normal physiology. Even the hardest, leanest bodies cannot metabolize and shuttle glucose into muscle cells at a maximum rate without having some extracellular spill-over. Read that sentence again. You cannot deplete carbs and then supercompensate and expect all of the glucose and water to end up in the muscle.
"You cannot deplete carbs and then supercompensate and expect all of the glucose and water to end up in the muscle."
You'll certainly fill out, but you'll also smooth out. Some a little, and some a great deal. Yes, a lot of carbs will go into the muscle, but a little or a lot will end up outside the muscle cell with a lot of water which makes you smooth. Next time you're dieting and you're fairly lean, log some comments every day in a journal. "Woke up pretty lean. Very smooth - must have been the sodium in the chips. Very vascular. Hard as a freak'n rock!" Just write down comments on how you look in the morning. Get a Bodybuilding.com workout log, they are great! I guarantee that you'll consistently be your hardest after a couple of low-carb, high-water intake days.
You may not be your biggest because the carbs aren't as high, but the lack of extraneous carbs and water under the skin makes you very tight and you appear much bigger. Who wins the show: the big soft guy or the bone-dry striated competitor? The way I carb up my clients catches the wave of glucose and water entering the muscle on the way up, but not at the expense of smoothing out on the rebound effect of over-carbing.
Saturday & Sunday
My general carb cycle for peak week is to start at the highest point on the weekend before. I start at a slightly above "normal" level on Saturday and Sunday and schedule no training. I want this weekend to be a recovery time with a refilling of glycogen. As training starts again on Monday, I slowly drop carbs each day. It's a subtle drop, not a severe depletion.
Monday Through Wednesday
The training each day, Monday through Wednesday, with the slight drop will create a sufficient carb deficit without total depletion. Depending on the client's metabolism, I keep the carbs coming down and keep the water very high all the way through Friday.
For a very high metabolism bodybuilder, I'm not going as low on the carbs during the week, and I may start re-carbing on Friday. For carb-sensitive clients it's very important to wait until Saturday to reload. By waiting until later in the week to carb up, you eliminate the chance of glycogen and water spill over. Your body can metabolize glucose very quickly and you don't have to start three days ahead of time especially if you haven't completely bottomed out with a severe carb depletion. There are also some issues with the type of carbs you use to reload. There are some that create more subcutaneous swelling due to being food allergens. It's important to know which are the most common and how they affect you.
Water is just as misunderstood as carbs. The traditional carb and water theories have people drop their water sometimes days before the show. Nothing will flatten and smooth you out faster! You have to maintain a high water intake because your muscle tissue is around 70% water. No water, no hardness - just flat, squishy muscle tissue. The reason people typically start dropping water is because they've over-carbed so much that they're already spilling glycogen and water under the skin and think, "Oh, my gosh!! I've got to get rid of this water!!" With the carb reload as I described, you won't have that problem; you'll actually get harder and harder throughout the week.
REMEMBER:
Keep the water intake up and let it follow the carbs into the muscle! If you're not over-carbed, the rest of the water will be eliminated!
Thursday
Sodium also has to be cycled. Start with a moderate amount of sodium, up to two grams at the beginning of the week and around Thursday start dropping it slightly but don't eliminate it completely. If you do, you'll force water out of the muscle cell, you'll look flat and smooth, and you'll cramp like there's no tomorrow. You need approximately four times more sodium than potassium for your muscles to contract normally. Again, don't let the myths from the pharmaceutically dominated side of our sport lure you into doing things that aren't physiologically correct.
You don't have all those drug side-effects to combat in peaking properly. If you sodium load and/or deplete in a big way you're gambling with extreme chemical rebound effects that you can't possibly time. If you're lucky enough to stumble into a good effect, it will be short lived because you're on a pendulum swing that your body will adjust to and you'll look absolutely lousy in a very short time.
I also use specific tricks regarding fat intake and schedule very specific contest day meal strategies for the individual needs and characteristics of my clients. As I get to know their metabolic rates through the dieting process, I'm already planning their peak and everyone's a little different. These general guidelines, however, I hope will dispel some common mistakes and put you on a path to learn your body type and peak perfectly every time!!
About The Author
Dr. Joe Klemczewski is a WNBF Pro and has graduate degrees in health and nutrition. From his office in Evansville, Indiana he works with clients all over the country, including top WNBF Pros, using his online consulting program. He can be reached at drjoe@joesrevolution.com. |
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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: GNC
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on: June 04, 2006, 05:08:54 PM
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Sugarbear (and others new to this board)
I’m going to offer you some friendly advice.
Plenty of people here shop at GNC. Are there more economical sources for supplements? Absolutely. Are there better resources for supplemental information? No doubt. Do guys here get lambasted when they mention it? Generally not.
The reason you got flamed (and quite mildly I might add) was because of the tone of your first post (and subsequent posts)(you’ve since deleted). It was not helpful advice warning people to pay attention to their entitled discount, it was about the “stupid (expletive) cashier” and how enraged you became and getting in her face.
You’re a newbie here, people don’t know you, nor do you know them. To come in like some raging bad ass with no prior history of helpfulness or humbleness and then to engage in a pissing match is asking for it. There are plenty of other forums here and elsewhere for that.
There are a lot of seasoned, knowledgeable, and helpful people around here. Show respect and get it in return. We expect nothing more and accept nothing less.
Welcome aboard.
Cheers!
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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: whats the best way to gain weight?
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on: June 04, 2006, 02:33:25 PM
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Yea, I am trying to gain weight for football. And I didnt know what all I should be doing. I am drinking the GNC's weigtgainer 2200 Gold
Nutritional content includes powder mix and 3 cups 2% reduced-fat milk. Supplement Facts Serving Size 495 grams Servings Per Container 5 Amount Per Serving % DV Calories 2200.00 28% Calories from Fat 160.00 38% Total Fat 18.20 g 41% Saturated Fat 10.00 g 78% Cholesterol 114.00 mg 147% Sodium 984.00 mg 20% Potassium 2730.00 mg Total Carbohydrate 441.00 g Dietary Fiber 5.00 g Sugars 115.00 g Protein 69.00 g Vitamin A 9000.00 IU 180% Vitamin C 96.00 mg 160% Calcium 1600.00 mg 160% Iron 27.00 mg 150% Vitamin D 880.00 IU 220% Vitamin E 45.00 IU 150% Thiamin 2.55 mg 170% Riboflavin 3.74 mg 220% Niacin 30.00 mg 150% Vitamin B-6 3.20 mg 160% Folic Acid 640.00 mcg 160% Vitamin B-12 13.20 mcg 220% Biotin 450.00 mcg 150% Pantothenic Acid 17.00 mg 170% Phosphorus 1300.00 mg 130% Iodine 225.00 mcg 150% Magnesium 680.00 mg 170% Zinc 24.00 mg 160% Selenium 525.00 mcg 750% Copper 3.00 mg 150% Manganese 0.60 mg 30% Chromium 96.00 mcg 80% Molybdenum 97.50 mcg 130% ** Daily Value (DV) not established Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Corn Syrup Solids, Artificial Vanilla Flavor, Cocoa, Dextrose, Guarana Extract, Aminogen, lipase, Bromelain, Carbogen, Lecithin, Artificial Chocolate Flavor, Guar Gum, Fructose, alpha-Amylase, Papain, Creatine Monohydrate, Pro Performance (Whey Protein Concentrate, Calcium Caseinate, Egg Albumen, Whey Protein Isolate, Sweet Dairy Whey, Dipentene (Limonene), Magnesium Oxide, Choline Bitartrate, Calcium Carbonate, Inosine, Inositol, para-Aminobenzoic Acid (PABA), L-Carnitine, Ascorbic Acid, Biotin, Ferrous Fumarate, Betaine Hydrochloride, Chromium Polynicotinate, Vitamin E (as natural d-alpha Tocopheryl Succinate), Vitamin A Palmitate, Niacinamide, Copper Gluconate, Potassium Gluconate, Potassium Iodide, Zinc Oxide, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Folic Acid, Selenomethionine, Cholecalciferol, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine HCl, Manganese Glycinate, Thiamin (as Thiamin Mononitrate), Cyanocobalamin, Molybdenum Glycinate)
Remember: Ingredients are listed in order of content. This product is predominently sugar! |
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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: AM Training????
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on: June 03, 2006, 01:07:24 PM
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ANyone do this? I mean first thing when you wake up, to shake things up a little bit, or be it work schedules, etc. How has it worked for you? How does your diet look for the rest of the day? I was thinking of some bcaa first, then a shake about halfway though, followed by a good pro/carb meal an hour later....thoughts?
You're in a catabolic state basically when you first get up. Not a good idea to train then. Eat/drink something before and after. |
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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Cardio Duration
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on: June 03, 2006, 10:23:08 AM
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I am doing it 4-5 times a week (or every time I get to the gym)
I'm pressed for time and too lazy to search and read today. Anyone care to give a quick synopsis of Max OT cardio or is there a concise place to read about it? |
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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: pullovers or dips
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on: June 03, 2006, 10:10:19 AM
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If anyone has access to a 'V' shaped dipping bar than the ability to do extra wide to very narrow dips (and anything in between) is present. This way you can find which hand position affects which body part the best I've not seen one of those. Makes so much sense. duhIf a pair of gymnstic rings are used than so much the better. A whole new slant on pec work as well as delt & triceps, will be offered.
Again, makes so much sense. Good idea / reminder for those with access to those tools. I mean, look at male gymnists - whether you like the look or not, ya gotta appreciate the physique and strength and power. |
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