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51  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Shoulder is fucked! I'm pissed can I pin GH in nerve? on: February 24, 2014, 03:21:00 PM
(natural)

I used to ritualistically develop broken shoulders from benching.  I always continued training, but I would discontinue all bar benching (stay on db) and do no direct shoulder pressing.  Eventually, they would subside and I would continue.  The free range of motion of DBs is much, much better.  You can naturally adjust to discomfort.

Haven't had that problem in maybe 5 years, though, since I learnt to tuck elbows properly when benching.  Used to destroy shoulders pretty much every 3 months of bar benching. 

Regardless of what you do, you MUST get over your hangups of not training a body part and do something - you have had a lot of treatment - but you have trained through it, which is something I probably would have done, too - but it's wrong and in the future you'll admit that.

At the very least do not directly train shoulders.

By the way, I have pathetically weak shoulders from avoiding them (they aren't small) and even at this low weight (dieted down), I can be sure of bench pressing 165kg+.  There are people in my gym who probably have better shoulder press and can't press half that.  That's the reality of shoulders.  They aren't that important in any big movement. 

It's not as bad as you think.  I probably have a military 1rep max at the moment of about 85kg (if I'm lucky).

I have had to not bench for a year and a half before.  That's bad.








52  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Best Hands clasped Most muscular ever in BB history? on: February 01, 2014, 04:04:41 AM
Bbing.com had a thread from 2012 on  Levrone vs Phil Hands Clasp MM pose




Despite them looking like they have similar structure - they don't.  Phil is a polished above average pro with giant arms that cash cheques that the rest of him do not deliver.  Or perhaps if his arms were smaller, he wouldn't look quite so ridiculously unbalanced.

He's very good - but the moment you put him next to Levrone, he looks a bit gimped.

Also note that Phil, because he has the worlds most narrowest chest for a pro, has to clasp his hands to produce a wider effect.  Ronnie and Kev can sacrifice a bit of width and grab the wrist.


53  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Jay starting to look like Dorian on: January 20, 2014, 03:23:11 PM
Everything about the way he and Ronnie continue to linger is financially motivated.

It's a shame really, Jay is obviously addicted to the gym/working out/believing that he'll compete and/or win the Olympia again - he's let nothing stop him, even the break-up of his marriage, loss of business partners, sponsorship deals etc. Give it a few more years, he'll be left with nothing.

You mean, if he didn't do anything, he'd be left with nothing. 

Nobody actually thinks Ronnie is guest posing in that state for "the love of it" Huh

Jay and Ronnie are very similar - even in "retirement".   Businessmen.

54  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Check out this jacked bros photoshoot on BB.com on: January 17, 2014, 05:53:58 AM
I think the thing that gets me is that the way he tells it - it sounds as if an enterprising couple have tricked a kid into taking shots for muscle worshipping homosexuals.

55  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Prayers needed for my great friend Ed Corney... on: January 09, 2014, 03:35:04 AM
I do not believe in the power of prayer, my friend.

.. but I do think it is plausible that I may be the universe, in its entirety.

And if that is the case, it is my will that Ed Corney continues to walk this earth.

It's my top priority.
56  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Which direction should I go? on: January 05, 2014, 11:48:15 PM
Realistically speaking, you have at least a bulking and a cutting cycle to go through before you do not look like you've never lifted in your life (but congrats, you look like you're just a regular, good weight guy).

It can be very hard to diet when you are not working with much.  My last diet, which ended a month or two ago, I started from something around 4 plate bench / 6 plate dead and I don't look "bad", but nothing in clothes.

As I am natural, the best I can really hope for is surprise when the shirt comes off and surprise when the twink walks in and presses 365 (which is about my current 1 rep, after losing a lot of weight).
57  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Starting a new Bodybuilding league!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: January 05, 2014, 11:20:29 PM
What you propose is to inject sport into bodybuilding.

It makes sense, but they won't do it.
58  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Tbombz, Clear the air once and for all. What are these for? on: January 04, 2014, 11:17:47 PM
pretty sure thats not what I was respecting.  I was getting that Taylor always walked his own path, his own style and his own choices (good or bad) and mever required that anyone approve... and THAT, imho, is worth respecting. You dont have to respect his personal choices,  but the fact that he never required validation or cared about what society though was normal or cool, and the favt thay je takes responsibility for his actions without blaming everyone but himself is definitely worth some anount of begrudging respect.

He's just another another person who is part of the problem.  A person who takes free will for their own and leads themselves into ruin, reinforcing the belief of those who already limit themselves (and are in a position to limit others) that all must be restricted from true free will.  Another cautionary tale.

Furthermore, he then falls into the common trap, whereby they need a false god to fill them with the power to be good, because he could not handle the lack of boundaries that ALL humans deserve.

It's not a respectful position.

Begrudging respect goes to those who pull themselves out of a hole as the man they were, not as someone who has now deluded himself into believing in a god who effectively abhors his sexuality.

His attitude at every stage of his time has been a product of his situation and whilst I do respect it, I really fucking do not respect drug addicts who wreck freedom for everybody else with their ruinous lack of control Smiley
59  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Tbombz, Clear the air once and for all. What are these for? on: January 04, 2014, 01:37:48 AM
taylor has always marched to the beat of his own drum, and you know whay, dude always mans up and takes responsibilities for his mistakes and failures.... gotta respect him for that. Never hear a whole lot of excuses or pity parties from the kid... he made dumb choices and heknkows it.

I do not respect any drug addict who does whatever the fuck he wants and then starts pretending jesus exists Roll Eyes

60  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: RIP Derek Anthony on: December 20, 2013, 05:22:29 PM
For some people that may be true.  Like you.

Go ahead and pick and choose what constitutes common decency if you like, and call it "faux politically correct nonsense". 

Everyone has clobbered the guy for all his depredations ad nauseum.  But even so, he paid the ultimate penalty.

There are a large amount of people judging others for their conduct - yet some of these people have been extremely unkind to Derek in the past - the difference being, they draw an imaginary line of completion of doing so, the moment Derek died. 

It is faux political correct nonsense.  The same bullshit invaded Nasser / Kovacs threads.  Those times, even more ridiculous.  People attempting to stop others from debating / researching steroid related deaths because of some sort of strange sentimentality whereby when a person dies, we're not permitted to drill down to the cause, immediately.  We must wait a few weeks to investigate Roll Eyes

This is a little website on the internet, not real life.  Fuck that mindset.  It is nonsense.

The burden of proof remains in the laps of those who are attempting to change others behaviour and what these specimens continually forget to acknowledge is - this isn't real life.   Nobody, here would be saying this stuff to the family.  Not a single person, here - not even Goodrum.  Common decency is a moot point.  This is the internet.

.. to which you counter "what if they (the family) do look at the internet"?

.. to which I counter, Derek already has quite the body of work of him acting the fool, without this thread.  It's a pointless task to try to now stem the flow.  I can find a picture of his dick within a minute Roll Eyes

It's not my style to bash Derek, because he's dead - it wasn't my style to bash Derek when he was alive, either.  But I'm not like Vince Basile - I DO understand how other people see this and I don't see it as particularly invalid.  It's not something I would do, but it is essentially harmless to continue to call a spade a spade, on this board (although I was forced to clarify how Derek came here, because people (Vince) are forgetting he came here to further his agenda of being an industry parasite).

People need to give him a sliver of respect just for the fact that he did have a family and I would never want my family to read or hear all the bad things that people could say about me when i am dead. 

If you don't want your family to read or hear bad things about you, here are some tips for when you are alive:

- Don't pose for naked pictures
- Don't run a webcam website
- Don't threaten people with all manner of ridiculous things (death, etc)
- Don't pump substances into yourself like a fool

Because, regardless of what happens in a RIP thread, none of that stuff above is going anywhere, from google. 
61  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: RIP Derek Anthony on: December 20, 2013, 06:36:13 AM
You know, Getbiggers are usually morality challenged when it comes to what they post about others. However, when they see something they don't approve of they bag that person mercilessly. And so Derek Anthony gets bagged even after he is dead. Whatever for? As Zorba the Greek said, it doesn't matter if someone is good or bad we are all food for worms after we are dead. That should be the attitude here. Those who were close to young Derek will miss him. Others could care less. That will be true for all of us. In the end, no one is really better than anyone else. We are all just individuals having a go at this miracle called life. Derek lived his dream and good for him.

I could interpret Zorba's words to reinforce an essential pointlessness of possessing any morality, in life.

I could interpret Zorba's words to indicate that Derek is wormfood and is not particularly in need of any sense of moderated speech on his character.

What you posted is essentially faux politically correct nonsense - it is a tradition to not speak ill of the dead and nothing more.  That I have not is my choice - but I do not begrudge any who have, as I recognise that with this being a smaller corner of the internet and the internet being effectively full of upsetting material for his family, already - there is less emphasis on it being particularly negative to add to that.

I repeat to you, Vince, you do not remember how Derek came - I do, he came here to advertise his member website for homosexuals to watch him pose on camera.  Why is it surprising that he encountered resistance to using getbig as commercial platform for this?  Are you really surprised that someone who did that (and received quite vehement hate) became disliked?  Again, I couldn't care less, myself - I'm just saying - don't act like this guy has "suffered" like you.  He was a parasite on the bodybuilding industry when he came here and if you think that's anything like people being mean to you, because you happen to be old - you're wrong.  If someone came to your gym and put up signs that said "calling all fags, come look at me posing on camera for money", you'd be pretty quick smart setting him on his way.  That's how Derek appeared here.  It is important for people to remember this, because some people actually think that Derek didn't start this stuff.  He did - and that's why Ron hasn't done shit to remove this thread. 
62  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bodybuilder Danica Patrick - incredible muscles on: December 19, 2013, 03:14:16 PM
Her biceps look very strange.

This. 

They look bizarre. 
63  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: RIP Derek Anthony on: December 17, 2013, 03:58:42 AM
Derek Springer/Anthony

Derek was always an interesting character on Getbig and elsewhere in the bodybuilding community. The dude was both crazy and fearless. He did and said what he pleased and took the consequences. So he lived his dream and for many years everything seemed sweet. He didn't take shit from anyone and handed the same out by the shovel full. He never backed away from a confrontation and agreed to meet various internet tough guys to sort things out. Yes, when you are outspoken like Derek you make some enemies....but many supporters, too, because bodybuilding is an asskissing cult where insecure blokes lift weights and do whatever it takes to win titles, etc. Derek was on some radio shows and was such an interesting character that people were entertained when he let loose with all manner of obscenities. The confrontation with Goodrum was a classic. Those two seemed to  hate each other as only Venom Vince can both instigate and sustain. Instead of fighting when they met at the Olympia several years ago, Derek took pity on Goodrum and spit on him instead of punching him. That putdown will remain forever on Goodrum's forehead! In the end, no one won because Derek didn't really live long enough to make his words have validity. He told Goodrum he would rather be himself than what Goodrum was. Those were strong words. So Melvin retorted that Derek would soon be dead and that was an accurate prediction.

When I remember how Derek conducted himself on Getbig I really wonder why so many seemed to dislike and even hate him. Derek knew this and even posted a video to all the haters who live in their mom's basement. He singlehandedly dispatched the Godfather from Getbig and that showed good detective work. Well, maybe he had some help. The point is Derek feared no man and he survived on the forums no matter what anyone said about him. The plain truth is very few on Getbig post as themselves. We all knew who Freakycalves was. Derek had a past where he posed for men for money. The flotsam equated that with gay4pay. Derek denied it was any such thing. Who knows and who cares? It was many years ago. The trouble is whatever was done in the past can linger forever if you are a controversial person on the net. I always found Derek to be outrageously funny. He did know how to have a good laugh and he could laugh at himself. I found him to be a likable bloke.

Let's talk about Derek's physique. The guy sure looked good in the past. Before he died we really couldn't tell because he became an illustrated man with all those tattoos. Why some guys cover a nice build with tattoos is a mystery to me but as Lee Priest said he just likes them. People accused Derek of using oil to increase the dimensions of his muscles. Perhaps he did. He admitted this year that he had made several mistakes and some of them impacted on his health. The flotsam felt Derek was crazy to the end because he tried to sustain the size of his muscles. The sideshow that was Derek ground to a crawl this year when he had to be hospitalized for serious problems. Once cancer was found in his liver things looked bad. He then had to postpone any kidney transplant and Derek never survived to get that gift. What a shame.

I suppose we can look at Derek's life and consider him foolish. Well, the cult known as Getbig embraces taking shortcuts to the buff look. Derek just took more risks and sustained them much longer than was healthy. We saw how he valued his family and in the end Derek was just another guy who lifted weights to look better. I don't think anyone should blame him for his short life. He took risks and knew there were side effects. Derek more or less died for us bitches! Rest in peace, Derek Springer.


Vince, you're probably wondering why nobody has commented on this.

Nobody has read it.

I'm going to translate for you, though - as I have.

Getbig Brethren,

Vince would once again, like you to know that he has his real name on here and has been the victim of some abuse by "anonymous" agents of satan - and that you're all scallywags and cowards and whatnot.

Vince is so disappointed with this ongoing phenomena, that he has chosen to align himself with someone who deliberately came to this board to drum up support for his heterosexual website, on which he charged money to homosexuals to stare at his body, as he posed for heterosexual webcam sessions.   

Vince doesn't really know what happened when Derek first arrived (in fact, few were here and even fewer would remember), but I assure you Vince, the adversity you might have suffered, here is entirely different to that of Derek - who was most definitely coming here to suck in homosexual lurkers to his website.  At one point, he felt it pertinent to post the email address of one of his customers, whom he believed to be also a getbig hater.

Now, it's probably a bit rich to wish death on those who attempt to exploit this board for commercial interests - but when they employ shockjock tactics on the thunderdome, they're probably going to cop a bit of abuse in the bargain.
64  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: RIP Derek Anthony on: December 14, 2013, 11:45:50 PM
Yes, perhaps we should put a disclaimer on every page to ensure they do not read further.

I propose the DA - TA chat log.

That'll keep them from going too far down the rabbit hole.

65  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: RIP Derek Anthony on: December 14, 2013, 09:22:19 PM
Wow, that was pretty bad. I don't remember posting this. I wish I could take it back now.

Too late, bro.

You killed Derek Anthony
66  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: where to download SONS season 6 on: December 13, 2013, 06:17:54 AM
Your best bets are IRC DCC send bots or the gopher protocol.

Napster has been a bit quiet lately and my sources say that the most underground way of sharing at the moment is secretly encoded in the fine art of bit mining.


67  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: RIP Derek Anthony on: December 13, 2013, 06:06:17 AM
If a person deserves respect - they deserve it when they are alive.

When they are dead, the concept of deserving respect is moot (depending on beliefs and such).

The concept of a message board on the internet respecting somebody is something akin to "delusions of grandeur".   On a message board, you give respect if the person wasn't overly a cnut, because actually, your respect is worthless and therefore, not really worth obsessing over.  They will never know of your text based respect.  You are making an empty gesture. 

I give respect to Derek because I can kind of see that he was of limited intellect and most of the vile stuff he wrote was his misguided idea of trying to be visceral, in the face of superior opponents.

But there's no way I would begrudge the voodoo master from his moment in the sun.

Derek wrote vile things to people and if they took them literally, there's no coming back from that - no respect in living or death.  That I choose to shrug it off is my prerogative, not other people's.

I actually really enjoyed Derek's getbig hate video - I like him more after remembering that.  I think he's bang on.  I was here when he arrived and he got nothing but hate and he gave it back (which as the more pragmatic on this board will agree - is the double standard we live by - we'll be dicks, if you're a dick back, you're a fool).

68  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: A little something for Vince Basile on: December 13, 2013, 05:42:36 AM
baha, that's absolutely hilarious
69  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: RIP Derek Anthony on: December 12, 2013, 06:12:15 AM
I haven't watched that video in a while.

It's amusing as hell and pretty well spoken.

I mean, if you compare him to say.. err cswol, he does a decent job of stating his case.

70  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Galeniko, How is that Kidney doing? on: December 12, 2013, 05:52:30 AM
ta had bacne and gyno

ive seen the pics

end of argument

are you saying that he lost 70 lbs from a natural weight

come on

Argument restarted Smiley

I dropped 50 pounds from my 230 and could have gone further (and would have had to, to get as lean as he was)

So yes, absolutely.

If you've not been 25% bodyfat natural at 230 and tried to diet down all in one go, you wouldn't know what you're talking about. 

I do, because I've done it and I'm telling you, what he looks like in those pics and where he got to, I see no reason to agree with anything you say.  The gyno would have been obvious when he was lean - it wasn't.  Nobody was giving him shit about gyno (that I recall).

That being said, you're totally entitled to your opinion, but some of your reasons (being solid, looking large and being strong) are completely invalid and the gyno one is better judged when he was fully dieted down (unless you're implying he had gyno surgery to win a $100 supplement voucher or whatever the hell it was for first prize Roll Eyes)


71  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Galeniko, How is that Kidney doing? on: December 12, 2013, 04:05:15 AM
i think you are the best get bigger ever  Cool

but i also think you are full of shit

you are on something in these pics

you are fat and solid doesnt happen naturally

ultimately who gives a fuck you dont even look like you train now

but you did get in tremendous shape in the past

so props for that  Smiley

Ultimately, your opinion is wrong in this case.

I too have been 230 natural and looked extremely solid and was pulling the requisite large deads.

If you're prepared (or genetically able) to eat like a pig, you can be large, as a natural.  

You'll also be a fat pig, though.

(I too ponder what would happen for me on gear as I have reached pretty respectable strength levels as a natural and I imagine it'd be even better with some help).
72  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Looking Back - Blasts from the past on: December 12, 2013, 03:24:05 AM
Great Kovacs story.

73  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: RIP Derek Anthony on: December 11, 2013, 06:29:16 AM
Still neutral???  Some of the stuff he threatened was so bad that if it was all made to light, his family would just throw him in a ditch and rot

I agree wholeheartedly that he wrote some very vile things.  I'm only "neutral" in the context of whether I would react the same as you have.

I'm still highly amused and entertained by what you've written, so far Smiley


74  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Haven't been on getbig for some time, whats this I hear?.... on: December 11, 2013, 05:39:55 AM
Being racist has always been bannable.  You just have to be good at it.  The legendary Sir Duchaine was ejected many times due to this.  I'm not sure if he still lives on Matt C's board - but that's where I believe he was at last check. 

He should come back - he is a top fellow and I think many of the newer breed of eloquent gentleman would enjoy his wit.  His novella, regaling Kevin Levrone himself (Holly Wood), here - of Kevin's role in a rather unfortunate case of a vomitus is one of the truly classic posts on getbig.

75  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: RIP Derek Anthony on: December 11, 2013, 02:48:16 AM
I remain neutral to Vince's reaction.

Particularly after reading that TA-DA chatlog

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=508773.msg7192100#msg7192100

Pretty despicable, really.

I liked Derek, don't think he deserved his fate  - but I wouldn't go as far as to say that he doesn't deserve to have some of his enemies, not exactly "respectful" upon his death.  This thread has played out pretty much how I thought it would.  Most of us just feel sorry for the guy - but a few people experienced negative aspects of the guy, above the general (and forgettable) public persona he portrayed.

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