13%bf 220 little over 6'1". 800mg prop a week, 700mg deca a week, 6iu hgh each day

Hmm would like to just jump to 10iu but don't know how Id react. I intend to bump dose each week until I react 10iu though

So I've done research and there's a ton of opinions on how to take insulin and how to start off. I was going to start with 2iu of humalin-r (can't get humalog) post workout and 9gram of glucose tabs per iu but how long after injecting do i take the glucose? Or should I use a different carb?

Congrats Howard

I got to say your experiences mirror mine. With GH for example, I ran it at 5iu for months. My muscles were fuller while on, it helped keep me leaner, but no way on earth could I get away with a shitty diet and stay lean. Perhaps folks who are by nature ectos/hardgainers could. Also, with Test-E, I started somewhere around 250mg and kept bumping until I hit 800mg, where I'm at today. Oddly I haven't noticed much difference from 450mg to 800mg, is it possible that the extra test-E is rendered ineffective due to conversion to estrogen? Also running EQ @ 800mg, about to drop it. I've been stuck at 220-225lbs (just shy of 6'2"), strength hasn't been as I would have expected either (when I was natural 22%bf @ 240lb I was stronger, but also eating like a horse, these days I eat clean, watch the carbs, and am significantly leaner). This is my first major blast cycle due to past health issues. I don't know, was expecting more (I certainly look much better than I did prior to AAS just not what I hoped). From here I'm not sure where to go. I have access to a limited supply of Tren, Deca, Primo, and a good amount of Test and EQ.

Happy New Year dude

EQ Anabolic/ Androgenic ratio: 100:50, Test is 100/100. Don't matter really, EQ doen't add much size, great for vascularity, pumps, getting cut, etc. At least in my experience

what brand? don't mention a source if it's specific to them.

Go to those warehouse food stores, cheapest around if they allow you otc in your state. I had the same prob O.L., I went to buy 2 boxes of luer lock 1ml (hard to find locally) and she was asking me a bunch of questions. Eventually, I just politely told her I'm on trt and inject 2x a week and don't want to buy syringes soon.

Damn read this and maybe I should throw the towel in. Not that I ever expected to look like Dorian but how can one's body handle all that. Even at 600mg Test, my heart races like a horse at the track when I'm at the gym

Nice. How'd you get them to do that? When my S2 screen cracked I had to go the insurance route ($100 deductible)

In the end prob not worth dinging your credit. Buy the screen on ebay and repair it. I've done it on an Iphone 4, wasn't too bad. Granted if the phone is still functional you could still deal with it as is. Also, try calling back another rep at Sprint sometimes you'll get different responses.

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Yes I believe there are different manufactures. Check out the .com.cn website they touch on that. I can't vouch for any particular one as I have not done any igf blood work as of yet.

I take it that is different then the .com.cn company.

Not to disagree or derail the thread, but I think it depends on the person and their genetic response to hormones. I've been on 450mg test for at least 5 weeks and prior to that was in the 300-350mg range for months, and honestly the change from the dose increase has been disappointing. It seems some people need large amounts to grow. I'm going to try 600mg test and see how it goes. I've also been on 600mg EQ and about 4iu hgh. Unless my expectations are not realistic, the results kind of make me want to throw the towel in.

So I got some blood work back and my DHEA is <30 if I remember right, abnormal for sure. I was on 5-600mg EQ for weeks, jumped briefly on Deca at 300 for two weeks, and been on Test-C at 350 for a very long time (hrt). A couple of weeks before the blood test I dropped the deca/eq and lowered the test to 250. On past blood work my DHEA levels came back at the very bottom of normal range, so low but never this low.

Should I simply supplement with capsules?

Very little fat in that diet. Kai's training video's seemed to have nothing but carbs and protein as well. Beyond that how the hell can you digest nothing but starch and protein, you need fiber.

Yeah good points got to stop the feelings for her and move on, only then will there be a way to reconcile maybe if I so choose at that point. Sometimes easier said then done.

Funny thing, I had an old profile on okcupid I haven't logged into for ages, I decided to check it today, found out she checked my profile out a couple weeks back (didn't even know she had an account). Guess she is looking for a new boyfriend yet again. Wonder if this can be to my advantage somehow.

Playing devils advocate and assuming she is worth going back to:
No contact for a length of time is what I've done, been about a month. The interesting part would be in the proper way to approach her again, thoughts?


Many people around me have told me she doesn't sound right given all the initial signs and how fast she was moving, so your advice mirrors theirs. Though a part of me wonders if this girl just doesn't know any better and if I put myself in her shoes...

To the questions, she chased me all through the relationship until the end when we stopped talking for a week and then found out she saw someone. Because I wanted to slow things down with her I made sure not to be overly anything with her (hence why he probably chased me more), though was always good to her. According to her own words, her family is dysfunctional and as such moved far away from them at an early age.

The child's father isn't in the picture he left her long ago. She is nearly 30

So I dated this girl I met, she has a 8 year old kid. Anyway, the girl kind of freaked me out in the beginning. Before we went on our first date we txted a lot and was telling stuff like "your the first thing I think of in the morning" and after meeting a week in, "I'm crazy about you", then eventually stuff like "I want someone who will be a father to my child" (all under 3 weeks). Alarms went off in my head I'm like whoa, I need to slow this girl down somehow. Thing is she seemed sweet as pie and I genuinely enjoyed being with her, she would cook for me and everything. I didn't know what to do, so I told her let's take things one day at a time, slow. She didn't really like that could tell. Then she wanted commitment, I told her I'm not going anywhere, I don't see and sleep with more then one girl at a time (she knew this early on as it's part of my culture), but I want to take it causally and slow. She wouldn't stop with the commitment stuff so I think at one point I said then have an open relationship, even though I was at her house nearly every single day and she knew and admitted that our relationship was anything but causal or open.

Long story short, we got in an argument, she was out of town for a week, I missed her like hell and wanted to go out. She had a sore throat and ear ache and got pissed that I asked to go out when she was sick. Started yelling at me about all sorts of things, I didn't yell back but asked her to stop yelling 3 times, she wouldn't so I left and didn't talk to her for a week. When we "got back together" things were different txts weren't the same from her. I went to see her one day she was cold to me, took me an hr to warm her up but oddly she said she had to go to her friend "Katie's" place to hang out. Well funny thing she put on full makeup, lip gloss, nice outfit, perfume. Stupid thing I believed her at the time. I went back to her place (her not knowing but always had permission in the past) that night around 11:30pm, she still wasn't home. She shows up at midnight and pissed that I was there, I was like huh, you told me I could always come anytime I wanted. Eventually told me she went on a date with someone a couple nights ago BUT still pretended this evening she was with "Katie".

Freaking ripped me in half. I told her don't waste my time, if you don't want to be in this relationship tell me from know, she said I don't know. Like a fool I chased her for a month and she treated me like shit, I'd txt her and get back 5 words. Then out of the blue she called me and talked for hours about random stuff. She continued to call but every time I asked her out I would get "I'll let you know". Eventually I put her on the spot and asked if she wanted a relationship with me or not, she said "I don't know yet you don't want me to make a decision yet I'm going through tough time my cousin is dying". Then txts me at night "Going to sleep, but you are right you should know, we should work on a friendship and see, but that's all I can give you". WTH

Sorry it's long, kind of had to know the events. Thing is I really fell for her and call me nuts I miss her like hell. What are your methods for successfully getting back with an ex?

Sad if that's all 3grams of test, 2.5 grams of Deca and 5iu of growth gets you muscle wise

Been ages, welcome back!

x2, start slow work your way up, see how your body responds. You can always add later, which is much better to do anyway when you don't know much...

Also how long have you been training? AAS isn't a mircle in a bottle, you have to know how to train and eat right. A good/decent natural base should be had before jumping on...

I'm very sensitive to meds, never had that happen to me and am on Test-C. How much are you taking? Shouldn't matter, really. You could look at the pamphlet that the test comes with, they list the sides that they encountered when doing their drug development study.