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26  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: alcoholic donald smith the cage fighter on: April 13, 2014, 01:32:46 PM
Someone should really call the long term care facility that Donny's posting from. 1, he's probably not allowed to be sauced off his ass. And 2, he's probably hogging the communal computer and using all their dial up minutes. Lips sealed
27  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: alcoholic donald smith the cage fighter on: April 13, 2014, 01:19:13 PM
Jesus, if Donny gets anymore riled up from this thread it'll probably send him to the morgue anyway!

Calm down, Donny!
28  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Who here currently takes or has taken Masteron? on: April 13, 2014, 12:41:30 PM
There's a flood of "good anavar" in town that isn't underdosed or just d-bol. My brother and some friends have been running it and are all super strong and look like they're seeing the right characteristics of real anavar (bro's blood work looked great too). I'm going to grab a couple bottles while it's around. Cool
29  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Who here currently takes or has taken Masteron? on: April 13, 2014, 12:11:11 PM
If you have hair loss issues or thinning hair, stay away. I use masteron but I've got a shaggy head of hair that grows an inch a fucking week. I know it's a first world problem, but I need at least one haircut a week because it grows so fast. Never lost any hair from AAS.

It's mostly genetic. I know guys who lost an inch from their hairline from 500mgs of testosterone per week. I also know guys who take grams of gear each week and have a fuck ton of hair like me.
30  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: waiting to up the dose on: April 13, 2014, 08:13:04 AM
Great cocksthetics. We have very similar physiques and very similar vascular structure. You've got more upper and middle chest though.

Keep up the good work and don't fuck it up like others said. I used to go from having the same conditioning to getting fat (not big, FAT) because everyone online always said to bulk up and eat like a house. Don't listen to what those guys say though because they've never been conditioned like us. You know what you're doing so keep heading in the same direction, because it's working. Cool
31  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 02:17:18 PM
I have a migraine just thinking about all that gear. Pinning it would be excruciating, then sitting there with all that shit floating around would be another challenge in and of itself.

I'm proud to be a life time natural (under 1 gram per week). Grin
32  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Underrated Toney Freeman on: April 12, 2014, 07:22:57 AM
Poor dude is super tall but also super balanced, which is ironically something that keeps guys from getting looked at. He's the bathroom selfie Mr. Olympia for at least 5-6 years running. He can hang with a prime parking lot Mr. Olympia (Dennis James, 3-4 weeks out of comp wearing a y-stringer) any day of the week.
33  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who fasts here? on: April 12, 2014, 07:20:33 AM
I have clients who fast one day a week. Gives the digestive system a break and allows cleansing .. this is combined with a clean healthy diet of course.

I finish the 3 day fast with a colon cleanse.

People don't appreciate just how hard they overwork the GI. I'm not saying I'm turning vegetarian or anything, but I almost eat no more red meat because that stuff takes a fair bit of processing power to be broken down and pushed out the pooper. I'm not against it at all and I'm not a red meat fear mongerer, but you don't need a solid kilo of red meat per day and you don't need to eat it 5 times a day.

Fasting and/or intermittent fasting is a good way to enjoy these things without putting the GI tract on the chopping block. We weren't made to be eating things like red meat multiple times a day. It's extremely nutritious but we don't need such a crazy overabundance. I found that my shits have been way better since intermittent fasting and cutting back on things like red meat, which is usually something the all-day-grazers/6-meals-a-day-crews like to promote like it's going out of style.

Lots of veggies are great, especially coming off a fast. Easy on the body and you can cook them to taste amazing. I used to shun veggies and figured a multivitamin gave me all I need, but I'm embarrassed to admit how wrong I was. I've found lots of ways to make them quickly, make them way more than palatable (they taste awesome) and it does the body good. Keeps you from over-eating as well. You can go to town on a huge plate of veggies without remorse. After a big fast I'll slowly add a bit more meat back in and my stomach doesn't gurgle and turn like it used to. I'm getting way leaner and feel stronger too, so eating properly isn't a submission or compromise at all. Cool


What do you like eating before and after fasts, sev? And how do your clients respond? It can be a big change for people, so you probably see a myriad of reactions. Would love to hear more. I'm a fucking newb when it comes to eating properly as the bodybuilding propaganda was the only commitment to food I ever made.
34  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Gotta give props to FATMC... he's quite the guitar player *vid of fatmc* on: April 12, 2014, 07:14:22 AM
Wolfox is sure melting down hard.

Calm down, man. Everything is gonna be okay. Undecided
35  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Mass Stabbing @ High School in Pennsylvania on: April 09, 2014, 02:33:17 PM
There was a stabbing here in Canada too I think. What's with all these mass stabbings? Mother fuckers can't handle their "emotions" these days and freak out. Bunch of pussies.
36  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who fasts here? on: April 09, 2014, 02:15:58 PM
So liberating to let go of the bulking bullshit and just listen to the body's needs.



Absolutely. Every Sunday I spent the entire day baking trays of chicken breasts, I'd cook steaks every few days until I would actually be repulsed by the thought of red meat, my house would be steamed up from boiling pasta and brown rice (I'm Asian, why the fuck did I ever eat that shit!?)... now I love food again, I still cook everyday but it's with a huge passion!! I stopped looking at food and "seeing macros". Now I just see the food. I cook a portion that has enough protein to meet my nutritional requirements and if I'm being a fatty McFatass, I just try skimping on the carbs and adding more veggies. That's my diet - eat enough protein, don't be a fatass, cheat only if it'll keep me on track. Does that sound complicated at all? Nope. Am I shredded like a cock? Yep.

What others said about eating all the time and being ripped - it's definitely possible. Anything's possible. I know guys eating 4000-5000 cals a day with twice as many carbs as protein. But do they have to do that? Absolutely not. Unless they're an endurance athlete and burn that many calories... not many people burn that much energy in a day. So why would you run on the spot and eat all that shit just to spent time in the kitchen and in the can shitting it all out? Be a minimalist. Don't go and complicate shit that doesn't need to be complicated. Life is complicated and convoluted enough. Just eat when you need to and spend the other 24 hours of your day not eating and shitting. I love food, don't get me wrong. But being a slave to food was thankfully a short lived phase. But I spent a good 4-5 years doing that very strictly and very meticulously. I don't joke when I say 10 shakes either. I'd go through a jug and a half of milk each day and a tub of protein like every week. But the sponsors from bb.com used to send me free product to shill because people liked my postings. And I feel very guilty for preaching, even though I practiced what I preached and believed it with every shred of my being.


I just think it's so much easier to not eat like a pig and learn to love food again. You'll usually look better, feel better, save money, reclaim lost hours due to cooking, eating and shitting, etc. People can make any "diet" work as long as they commit to it and make sure that their results continue to compound, but why take the shitty and difficult road when there's absolutely no gain? Our bodies aren't meant to eat all the time. If your gut is rumbling and gurgling 24/7 because you've got to constantly shit, it really impedes your ability to train and leaves you with discomfort all day long. I can't even eat 4-5 hours before training anymore because I feel so much better training fasted. I still lift heavy as fuck too, so the strength drop is only temporary.
37  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: What is the worst tasting supplement you've had? on: April 09, 2014, 11:07:32 AM
ALRI made a pre workout that cracked you right the fuck out. It tasted like powdered and pulverized puke with black pepper and other volatile chemicals.

I got so stimmed out and felt so sick that I'm almost positive there was something illegal in it. That guy spiked all his supplements with drugs.
38  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who fasts here? on: April 09, 2014, 11:01:28 AM
You want to know how to best "break" the fast?

Depends.


If you've been going for 24 hours, not such a big deal. Try to eat good food though. It's going to absorb quickly.


I would start of first with lots of liquids and fruits and then Oatmeal and egg whites.


You probably won't want to go to IHOP and load up on bacon, eggs, pancakes, waffles, syrups, juices, coffee... you will be headed for the bathroom in a hurry and prob spend the rest of the day wishing you had just kept fasting instead.


Break a fast gently, just like you would if you had competed. It can be dangerous over-loading your body with shit after emptying all the shit out.


Start off with an electrolyte water with vitamins and minerals and then keep eating easily digested/bland foods until you can work your way up to what you prefer.


If you fast regularly, you will find that you really won't ever like to stuff yourself with crap again. You will always kind of be fasting on some level because you will never want to over-eat and you will drink lots of fluids... daily.


At least, that's my experience ~

Good advice.

If you want to crush a Big Mac, you're probably at the stage where hunger is still rampant and it would be bad to break the fast at that point, especially with bad foods. If you fast much longer, you'll want something that'll curb your satiety but won't send you to the shitter. It's crazy how our bodies work. Most people say "if I don't eat all day I'll just crush my fridge or a pile of fast food"... no you won't. Not if you fast properly.

I like how it frees up so much time and that I shit better too. I'm not shitting and eating all the time. I shit quickly and properly and I can have one nice big meal with my wife after the gym instead of stuffing dry chicken breasts in my pocket and worrying about catabolism. Shocked Grin
39  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Damn RIP Ultimate Warrior... on: April 09, 2014, 09:34:32 AM
movie the wrestler nailed it ,swollen slightly disfigured face from self inflicted'wrestling blood angle'matches,from steroid use bloat,swollen look from over taxing body with fluid retaining drugs,the neck especially gets that roid look ,warrior had that neck look look like it was going to burst,mickey roarke had that whole look nailed for that movie..

The Wrestler is a beautiful, suicidal tendency inducing movie. I actually watched it back-to-back the first time I saw it, it was that good... but, I basically wanted to kill myself. Very depressing movie but I think people should see it. The ending too... damn. Too much real life.
40  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Damn RIP Ultimate Warrior... on: April 09, 2014, 08:49:58 AM
Its very surreal that he died after his speech at the Hall of Fame and on Raw. His words were prophetic, like he knew he was about to die and had made peace before it. The whole thing seems like too much of a coincidence. But he looked awful at the Hall of Fame and on Monday Night. He was hobbling around, very out of breath, serious redness and sweating. I honestly think that the strain and excitement from the last few days are what accelerated his death.

Typical wrestler death - enlarged heart, blocked arteries. A life on the road, steroids, alcohol, cocaine, painkillers, fast food, lack of sleep. I will say one thing though - the biggest, most "roided" up guys seem to be far more prone to heart attacks and health problems at a younger age.

Very true, man. Good ass post. He definitely looked like he burned through the last bit of juice in his tank giving that speech.
41  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who fasts here? on: April 09, 2014, 08:40:30 AM
I dont understand how anyone can report feeling good from fasting. Explain this to me please. Starving oneself does not seem like a pleasant experience.

You don't understand it because you're not aware of just how little food the human body can get by on. Even if you're under 10% body fat, you have pounds and pounds of fat to go through. Your muscles have glycogen and if you're really in a pinch, your body will catabolize amino acids from your muscles. So really, we don't need to eat every 2-3 hours. We don't even need to eat more than twice a day. I've seen people fast for days on end, but I don't advocate that. However, they do very well, have good glucose metabolism, etc.

I think if you can, try fasting all day and just eat after the gym. You'll burn fat all day, leptin and ghrelin will settle down and all the hunger/GI peptides will become more balanced, as well as your pancreas. Your pancreas will get a nice break and your muscles will have better glucose sensitivity. This is really important for your physique, and when you have sugar in the blood stream it's very toxic so the exposure should be minimized. Basically everything just works better and you damage your body far less.

I'm not a fan of the huge, metabolically damaging fasts or drinking any stupid teas or anything. Just don't eat like a fucking pig and see how it works. Thousands of years ago we never ate like the way we do now. And just not having a gut that's rumbling all day is reason enough for me to eat lighter and try to fast, if possible. I'm not strict though. If I want to eat, I'll eat. I don't like rigid rules and just listen to my body. People can think that fasting is extreme, but intermittent fasting isn't. If you can pull off even just one intermittent fasting day a week it's a huge bonus.


People think that fasting or intermittent fasting is extreme, but in hindsight it's actually the all day eating and grazing that's extreme. No one's ever done that, comparatively speaking until just recently. I think eating once or twice per day is the best for our metabolism and overall health. I never felt good when I ate 6 times a day. Two steaks and a chicken breast, brown rice, whole wheat pasta, toast, egg whites and oatmeal. I used to do that every fucking day, plus around 10 protein shakes. You can thank the good fools at bodybuilding.com for their dogma. Now I just eat a snack and one beautiful dinner each evening after the gym and I feel so much better. And on days where I'm extra hungry, I have two big meals. Big whoop. Not too complicated or extreme at all.
42  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who fasts here? on: April 09, 2014, 07:57:15 AM
Some people report euphoric feelings. I try to avoid long periods of not eating, but I remember similar experiences (no homo, no hippie)

After the hunger pains subside, that's when euphoria sets in for me. They get really intense and I can feel like shit, but once they're gone I feel fantastic and all the hunger disappears again.
43  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who fasts here? on: April 08, 2014, 02:49:30 PM
I feel great when I fast. No cognitive issues. Sometimes I actually think more clearly. If I'm cutting carbs and going keto, I can feel shitty unless I fully commit and cut them right out.

I've determined that I can't do keto. Carbs are hiding everywhere and I don't like to cut them out, I enjoy them too much. Going low carb eliminates the haze, makes meal prep easier and I still lose just as much fat. Full keto makes me feel so horrible that I think my cortisol and adrenals get shot and I end up looking shittier anyway. I just cut the cals (mainly from carbs) and I lose weight. I don't think full keto is the bees knees unless you've done it, can tolerate it and see good results. I stopped trying to make it work and I haven't looked back.
44  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: 22 year old behind Mutagenic *busted* on: April 08, 2014, 02:43:41 PM
I think selling steroids is probably one of the riskiest and worst drugs you can sell. The profit margins are high. But considering how many electronic trails can lead back to some one over time. It really just is a high risk thing. Some guys are smart and can get away with it for a long time. But I would say its easier to get caught buying steroids by the dea than it is buying any other drug out their.

The profit margins are high? Maybe if you brew it yourself. It's margins are low like mushrooms or marijuana. You only make money off nickels and dimes, but the extra work to move small amounts is absolutely not worth it. And the stress is extremely high dealing with stupid ass bodybuilders making it all the more miserable.

If I were going to sell drugs, I'd sell crack. I'd rather deal with crackheads than bodybuilders. If you've seen someone run a phone, they can make tons of money every day and there's no more stress to it than dealing with bodybuilders. With bodybuilders there's so much stress, paper trails/electronic trails, etc. You would be happier with a burner phone ringing 24/7 with junkies calling to get their fix than to deal with some prima donna bodybuilder trying to negotiate lower rates and claiming their gear is underdosed or bunk.

Anytime someone asks to buy even just a vial between cycles I tell them to kindly fuck off. I'd sooner give a vial to them and tell them to hit me back when they place their order. It's just not worth it. Bodybuilders also have very loose lips too. Never seen such a fucked up drug scene and I know (or used to know) a lot of people who run dial-a-dope lines on the mainland.
45  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Unemployed and loving it! on: April 08, 2014, 02:33:25 PM
I'll tell you something, the human body comes up with some funky smells when you don't shower and you run out of toilet paper. McDonald's napkins are alright but don't really get the job done.

I had an unemployed room mate that was addicted to World of Warcraft. I have been introduced to those such smells. I would pay money to be able to get lobotomized and forget those smells...
46  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Unemployed and loving it! on: April 08, 2014, 02:14:32 PM
Do something productive with the time off. Read, relax (being lazy is not relaxing, go read a book under a tree or go for a walk), better yourself, do errands around the house and shit like that. Don't just jack off and nap all day.

I'll be taking time off at the end of this month and it'll be the first time in my life where I haven't worked. I worked in high school and almost everyday since graduating. Any time I have off, I try using it productively. If you just sit around being lazy, the time flies way too quickly and you've wasted that time. Make the best of it while you can. Just my two cents. If people want to sit around all day until their apartment suite smells like rotten garbage then that's their prerogative.
47  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Jay Cutler wishes Mother In Law a lovely ... on: April 08, 2014, 01:28:28 PM
whaat? are you serious

Yeah, I downloaded his videos and used to fall asleep watching them. He's mental.
48  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Jay Cutler wishes Mother In Law a lovely ... on: April 08, 2014, 12:55:30 PM
odd guy

Understatement of the century. Dude brushes his teeth and showers 10 times a day and brings plastic cutlery to top dollar restaurants because "he doesn't like the feeling of metal on his teeth".

Odd guy, indeed. Grin
49  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: my thoughts on training, nutrition and anabolics usage on: April 08, 2014, 11:32:07 AM
I'll give an example. I routinely get into it (just respectful debates) with guys named Nick Tumminello and Brad Schoenfeld. Nick is very well read, Brad is highly educated (PHd) both write for respected sites and both have written books. The problem is they are RESEARCHERS and more online "gurus" than anything else. These are guys (and there are a million more) who do more writing than actual "in the trenches" training. They are former trainers that really trained people for a few years, probably didn't like and decided to write about it instead.

On Brads blog in big bold print "No body knows more about muscle building than Brad Schoenfeld". Nick, to the best of my knowledge has never competed but told me his mom is a former bodybuilder, which I guess makes him an expert. Both write for T-nation and Bodybuilding.com

Both, will argue to the death that science trumps practical application but of course doesn't discount the practical application. To the best of my knowledge, neither has trained any high level athletes or high level physique or bodybuilders for any significant amount of time. Ok, both are "experts" in "building muscle" yet they look like the average "fit" person off the street.

I often say (when it comes to strength and conditioning) that knowledge always trumps what the coach may look like. But when it comes to self - professing  about being an expert in building muscle, training and nutrition, you better damn well at least look like it to back it up...

So again, have you competed (more than once) and did you win or place high and who have you trained and at what level?



Good points. Physical things like bodybuilding and sports, that's when you're allowed to have a little more bias against people with just book smarts. Yes, I'm sure an endocrinologist will know vast amounts about hormones and endocrinology, but I'd turn to the local meathead for steroid advice. They've got the hands on training which is invaluable.

The thing I like here is that a lot of people, like yourself, have actually pulled their socks up, dieted the fuck down and competed. Even if it's just a local comp or amateur one, you've done it. I don't even care if anyone's placed well, the experience can really shape your perception and offer esoteric insights that can't be directly described or relayed to another person. You simply have to do it. Sort of like juicing. People try planning so hard for their first cycle, but that first cycle is a write off anyway. Doesn't mean shit outside of the experience because that person won't keep the gains in most cases anyway. But that experience is so important.

I haven't competed myself, but I've dieted down to ridiculous conditioning in anticipation of competing. I don't like to fuck up, ever. And my biggest fear would be to register for a comp, start dieting and show up on the day of the show out of shape. I have a crushing fear of things like that, so instead I've dieted down 3-4 times to low single digit bf (a bone dry 6% realistically, guys that say they hit 3-4% are fucking lying), but then I just realize which parts are lagging and go back to the drawing board. But even just dieting down that rigidly has totally changed my perception.

It's amazing how quickly you can throw your training, dieting and "supplementation" regimen right out the window when you have experiences like that. That's why I try spending lots of time pounding the keyboard furiously to help people. When you have honest, first hand experience it's something you want to share, especially when you see such idiotic advices. Bodybuilding is a "sport" where having a good mentor means everything. You need to be dedicated, observant and meticulous as well, but a trusted individual to steer you in the right direction is so important. We run into conflicts so often and having an honest set of eyes can mean a world of difference. I know that I can't trust myself - too indecisive. If/when I decide to buckle down and register for my first show, I will enlist the help of a very trusted friend because once I'm balls deep into the diet I can no longer trust myself. Things get too hairy if you've ever dieted down that far and that's why a "trainer" is actually really important. Someone can give you a cookie cutter diet, cycle and training routine but it's virtually worthless without consultation through someone else.

Annnd that's enough novels for me today lol... hope that people can find some tidbits of knowledge in all my spastic keyboard tantrums. Lots of awesome insights in this thread, as usual. These threads are always awesome even when there's bickering, because lots of important shit gets hashed out and discussed. I swear, if it weren't for sites like this one I would still look like the scrawniest piece of shit and looking for the next gimmick to get me bigger musckles. Grin
50  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: my thoughts on training, nutrition and anabolics usage on: April 08, 2014, 11:10:55 AM
of course like anything there will always be a number of contributing factors. Like most things there is rarely a clear answer.But it plays a role. High blood pressure which roids cause is one of the biggest cause of kidney damage. The kidneys filter our blood so high protein and drugs will put also put stress on them . Im not attacking steroids its just nieve to claim steroids dont do damage.

Anyway glad people are getting results from trying something different.

These are good points to heed no matter how safe you regard steroids. I think they're extremely safe, but ballooning in weight compounds the risks tremendously. This is something a LOT of people don't heed attention to.

AAS are pretty damn safe, but it's also easy to step into the dangerzone without knowing. And the longer you stay there, the more damage you're unknowingly creating. I'm guilty of become too laid back and too complacent. Fuck, I was completely infertile and had to come off for more than a year to knock up my beautiful wife. I never thought in a million years that THIS would be the fallout that I have from AAS usage, but fuck me sideways. You can't anticipate every danger in life, but being privy to the possible dangers and making sure to keep them at bay is imperative.

While I don't like fear mongering in the least, I do like to recline to this statement and remind people not to play things off too easily. A little edema could put TREMENDOUS strain on your heart without you even noticing. Keep these situations to an absolute minimum and just avoid getting fat all together. You'll maintain both your health and aesthetics, so I don't see why anyone would trade those for getting fat and shaving years off their lifespan. Makes no sense to me.
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