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51  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who fasts here? on: April 09, 2014, 07:57:15 AM
Some people report euphoric feelings. I try to avoid long periods of not eating, but I remember similar experiences (no homo, no hippie)

After the hunger pains subside, that's when euphoria sets in for me. They get really intense and I can feel like shit, but once they're gone I feel fantastic and all the hunger disappears again.
52  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who fasts here? on: April 08, 2014, 02:49:30 PM
I feel great when I fast. No cognitive issues. Sometimes I actually think more clearly. If I'm cutting carbs and going keto, I can feel shitty unless I fully commit and cut them right out.

I've determined that I can't do keto. Carbs are hiding everywhere and I don't like to cut them out, I enjoy them too much. Going low carb eliminates the haze, makes meal prep easier and I still lose just as much fat. Full keto makes me feel so horrible that I think my cortisol and adrenals get shot and I end up looking shittier anyway. I just cut the cals (mainly from carbs) and I lose weight. I don't think full keto is the bees knees unless you've done it, can tolerate it and see good results. I stopped trying to make it work and I haven't looked back.
53  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: 22 year old behind Mutagenic *busted* on: April 08, 2014, 02:43:41 PM
I think selling steroids is probably one of the riskiest and worst drugs you can sell. The profit margins are high. But considering how many electronic trails can lead back to some one over time. It really just is a high risk thing. Some guys are smart and can get away with it for a long time. But I would say its easier to get caught buying steroids by the dea than it is buying any other drug out their.

The profit margins are high? Maybe if you brew it yourself. It's margins are low like mushrooms or marijuana. You only make money off nickels and dimes, but the extra work to move small amounts is absolutely not worth it. And the stress is extremely high dealing with stupid ass bodybuilders making it all the more miserable.

If I were going to sell drugs, I'd sell crack. I'd rather deal with crackheads than bodybuilders. If you've seen someone run a phone, they can make tons of money every day and there's no more stress to it than dealing with bodybuilders. With bodybuilders there's so much stress, paper trails/electronic trails, etc. You would be happier with a burner phone ringing 24/7 with junkies calling to get their fix than to deal with some prima donna bodybuilder trying to negotiate lower rates and claiming their gear is underdosed or bunk.

Anytime someone asks to buy even just a vial between cycles I tell them to kindly fuck off. I'd sooner give a vial to them and tell them to hit me back when they place their order. It's just not worth it. Bodybuilders also have very loose lips too. Never seen such a fucked up drug scene and I know (or used to know) a lot of people who run dial-a-dope lines on the mainland.
54  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Unemployed and loving it! on: April 08, 2014, 02:33:25 PM
I'll tell you something, the human body comes up with some funky smells when you don't shower and you run out of toilet paper. McDonald's napkins are alright but don't really get the job done.

I had an unemployed room mate that was addicted to World of Warcraft. I have been introduced to those such smells. I would pay money to be able to get lobotomized and forget those smells...
55  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Unemployed and loving it! on: April 08, 2014, 02:14:32 PM
Do something productive with the time off. Read, relax (being lazy is not relaxing, go read a book under a tree or go for a walk), better yourself, do errands around the house and shit like that. Don't just jack off and nap all day.

I'll be taking time off at the end of this month and it'll be the first time in my life where I haven't worked. I worked in high school and almost everyday since graduating. Any time I have off, I try using it productively. If you just sit around being lazy, the time flies way too quickly and you've wasted that time. Make the best of it while you can. Just my two cents. If people want to sit around all day until their apartment suite smells like rotten garbage then that's their prerogative.
56  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Jay Cutler wishes Mother In Law a lovely ... on: April 08, 2014, 01:28:28 PM
whaat? are you serious

Yeah, I downloaded his videos and used to fall asleep watching them. He's mental.
57  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Jay Cutler wishes Mother In Law a lovely ... on: April 08, 2014, 12:55:30 PM
odd guy

Understatement of the century. Dude brushes his teeth and showers 10 times a day and brings plastic cutlery to top dollar restaurants because "he doesn't like the feeling of metal on his teeth".

Odd guy, indeed. Grin
58  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: my thoughts on training, nutrition and anabolics usage on: April 08, 2014, 11:32:07 AM
I'll give an example. I routinely get into it (just respectful debates) with guys named Nick Tumminello and Brad Schoenfeld. Nick is very well read, Brad is highly educated (PHd) both write for respected sites and both have written books. The problem is they are RESEARCHERS and more online "gurus" than anything else. These are guys (and there are a million more) who do more writing than actual "in the trenches" training. They are former trainers that really trained people for a few years, probably didn't like and decided to write about it instead.

On Brads blog in big bold print "No body knows more about muscle building than Brad Schoenfeld". Nick, to the best of my knowledge has never competed but told me his mom is a former bodybuilder, which I guess makes him an expert. Both write for T-nation and

Both, will argue to the death that science trumps practical application but of course doesn't discount the practical application. To the best of my knowledge, neither has trained any high level athletes or high level physique or bodybuilders for any significant amount of time. Ok, both are "experts" in "building muscle" yet they look like the average "fit" person off the street.

I often say (when it comes to strength and conditioning) that knowledge always trumps what the coach may look like. But when it comes to self - professing  about being an expert in building muscle, training and nutrition, you better damn well at least look like it to back it up...

So again, have you competed (more than once) and did you win or place high and who have you trained and at what level?

Good points. Physical things like bodybuilding and sports, that's when you're allowed to have a little more bias against people with just book smarts. Yes, I'm sure an endocrinologist will know vast amounts about hormones and endocrinology, but I'd turn to the local meathead for steroid advice. They've got the hands on training which is invaluable.

The thing I like here is that a lot of people, like yourself, have actually pulled their socks up, dieted the fuck down and competed. Even if it's just a local comp or amateur one, you've done it. I don't even care if anyone's placed well, the experience can really shape your perception and offer esoteric insights that can't be directly described or relayed to another person. You simply have to do it. Sort of like juicing. People try planning so hard for their first cycle, but that first cycle is a write off anyway. Doesn't mean shit outside of the experience because that person won't keep the gains in most cases anyway. But that experience is so important.

I haven't competed myself, but I've dieted down to ridiculous conditioning in anticipation of competing. I don't like to fuck up, ever. And my biggest fear would be to register for a comp, start dieting and show up on the day of the show out of shape. I have a crushing fear of things like that, so instead I've dieted down 3-4 times to low single digit bf (a bone dry 6% realistically, guys that say they hit 3-4% are fucking lying), but then I just realize which parts are lagging and go back to the drawing board. But even just dieting down that rigidly has totally changed my perception.

It's amazing how quickly you can throw your training, dieting and "supplementation" regimen right out the window when you have experiences like that. That's why I try spending lots of time pounding the keyboard furiously to help people. When you have honest, first hand experience it's something you want to share, especially when you see such idiotic advices. Bodybuilding is a "sport" where having a good mentor means everything. You need to be dedicated, observant and meticulous as well, but a trusted individual to steer you in the right direction is so important. We run into conflicts so often and having an honest set of eyes can mean a world of difference. I know that I can't trust myself - too indecisive. If/when I decide to buckle down and register for my first show, I will enlist the help of a very trusted friend because once I'm balls deep into the diet I can no longer trust myself. Things get too hairy if you've ever dieted down that far and that's why a "trainer" is actually really important. Someone can give you a cookie cutter diet, cycle and training routine but it's virtually worthless without consultation through someone else.

Annnd that's enough novels for me today lol... hope that people can find some tidbits of knowledge in all my spastic keyboard tantrums. Lots of awesome insights in this thread, as usual. These threads are always awesome even when there's bickering, because lots of important shit gets hashed out and discussed. I swear, if it weren't for sites like this one I would still look like the scrawniest piece of shit and looking for the next gimmick to get me bigger musckles. Grin
59  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: my thoughts on training, nutrition and anabolics usage on: April 08, 2014, 11:10:55 AM
of course like anything there will always be a number of contributing factors. Like most things there is rarely a clear answer.But it plays a role. High blood pressure which roids cause is one of the biggest cause of kidney damage. The kidneys filter our blood so high protein and drugs will put also put stress on them . Im not attacking steroids its just nieve to claim steroids dont do damage.

Anyway glad people are getting results from trying something different.

These are good points to heed no matter how safe you regard steroids. I think they're extremely safe, but ballooning in weight compounds the risks tremendously. This is something a LOT of people don't heed attention to.

AAS are pretty damn safe, but it's also easy to step into the dangerzone without knowing. And the longer you stay there, the more damage you're unknowingly creating. I'm guilty of become too laid back and too complacent. Fuck, I was completely infertile and had to come off for more than a year to knock up my beautiful wife. I never thought in a million years that THIS would be the fallout that I have from AAS usage, but fuck me sideways. You can't anticipate every danger in life, but being privy to the possible dangers and making sure to keep them at bay is imperative.

While I don't like fear mongering in the least, I do like to recline to this statement and remind people not to play things off too easily. A little edema could put TREMENDOUS strain on your heart without you even noticing. Keep these situations to an absolute minimum and just avoid getting fat all together. You'll maintain both your health and aesthetics, so I don't see why anyone would trade those for getting fat and shaving years off their lifespan. Makes no sense to me.
60  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: my thoughts on training, nutrition and anabolics usage on: April 08, 2014, 10:40:27 AM
Your methods explain why you aren't a lot bigger. No one trains by instinct. That isn't giving anyone good information.

Most young guys can't grow because they don't eat enough calories. So your advice to hard gainers sucks. These guys have to force feed themselves.

Haha go fuck yourself, Vince. This advice isn't tailored for idiots who don't realize they simply need to put more food in their mouths. The solution is simple - more calories. If they ate enough bark mulch they'd grow. I too was a "hardgainer" and learned how narrow sighted I was and changed that. It's elementary.

This thread doesn't concern you in the least. Great advice by no one. Lots of "simple" concepts that many people miss. It needs to be reaffirmed by advanced lifters because people are so concerned with finding a new gimmick that they try so many different things and never commit to one. This is solid advice and shit that I finally started doing consistently myself. Now I look back and realize how stupid I was and how much I could have advanced if I had stuck with solid principals like this. But no big deal, we all know what it takes and it's just a matter of execution.

People might think it's a circlejerk and a bunch of back-patting, but it really affirms things and solidifies these principals in your mind. When we go through training luls we begin doubting or fucking around aimlessly. Any time I read a novel post from gal or no one I strap down and start training hard again. I don't care if it's the same thing said two different ways, it truly helps. It's hard to do something repetitively without it becoming cumbersome. But when you find the best ways to get these tasks done and share ideas with others, it becomes a lot more exciting, rewarding and tangible.

Of course someone could say eat 300g of protein, minimal carbs and fats, train hard, use a few hundred mgs of gear but that's so dry and impersonal. When people share their anecdotes, it gives you something to compare and contrast. I don't like deca or NPP but when I hear about others using it, it piques my interest and I think about whether I should try them again. Or when someone shares the foods they eat, it gets me revved up and I want to cook different dishes and eat strict again. These posts are inherently valuable in that they keep things fresh and motivating. They're invaluable. We need people to keep things fresh and we're lucky to have guys like no one on board. They're the kinds of dudes I used to schmoe on and idolize when I was struggling to get big. And I'm happy to have developed a solid enough physique to bump shoulders with them and not look like an outsider. I still have plenty of work before I'll ever be happy with my physique, but we all feel the same and it's nice to be able to contribute and help each other out.

So again, fuck off, Vince. In case you haven't clued in, none of this concerns you. I apologize if you took the time to read my post.
61  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who fasts here? on: April 08, 2014, 09:31:40 AM
I like to do intermittent fasting but I haven't been as strict as I like to be. I normally have a small meal at work like oatmeal, but do the majority of my eating in the evening after the gym. If I can go the day without eating until evening I shred up quickly.

Just picked up some free metformin. Cleaning up my eating first, then going to start committing to fasting hard again. I'll be taking time off work for paternity so I'll be active all day (versus sitting in an office) which will make things much easier. When you're stressed and sit all day it's so easy to get hungry and turn to food.
62  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Attn: True Adonis. Will you start a thread/blog pertaining to cooking? on: April 07, 2014, 01:28:42 PM
I'd be interested reading an Adonis cooking blog.

Especially what he does with chicken. I'm completely out of ideas.

Yes! More ideas are good, especially for drab shit like chicken.

I have a love/hate relationship with food. When I'm in the mood and feeling creative, sometimes I cook huge meals that I don't even take a bite of myself. I just love cooking. Othertimes I'll eat nothing but shit all day because I'm upset about not knowing what I should cook, then my whole day spirals into rage and regret. Ideas help to mitigate situations like that, and he's always got some crazy good ideas.
63  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Attn: True Adonis. Will you start a thread/blog pertaining to cooking? on: April 07, 2014, 12:22:22 PM
They work very well, but the ultimate is a Baking Steel, particularly this one.  You can also pull it out and use it as a griddle on the stovetop and to cook steaks, chicken and burgers.

I used something similar for the pizza I made last night. Wasn't anything special, but I forgot how awesome homemade pizza tastes.

Found a few cold fermented recipes that I'll tinker with but was really hoping you'd share yours which is tried, testing and presumably true. My grandma left me with some really good different flours so I've been baking up a storm. Made tons of BBQ pork buns and a few pizzas in the last week.
64  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Attn: True Adonis. Will you start a thread/blog pertaining to cooking? on: April 07, 2014, 09:41:05 AM
I will get to all of it shortly.

Hey bub, where's that recipe!? Cool
65  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Getbig Gurus! Is this diet believable? Very low calories/protein. on: April 07, 2014, 08:12:22 AM
If he's on "TRT" then I can believe it. He looks like he's lived a lifetime carrying lots of muscle on that massive frame. If he's dropped down to a low anabolic vegan diet, I can see him maintaining a heck of a lot of muscle. But I don't believe him entirely. Has to be on at least TRT.
66  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Senseless Anabolichalo Ramblings on: April 07, 2014, 08:09:18 AM
would you dance for him ?

There are some here that would shake it for the all mighty dollar. Undecided
67  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Partying for bodybuilders on: April 06, 2014, 02:39:07 PM
Any hard liquor brings out my vascularity, and my limbs already look like strangled cocks even off cycle and fat. Red wine dries you out the quickest though. It just takes a glass and people start pointing at my arms and saying they're getting veiny.
68  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Senseless Anabolichalo Ramblings on: April 06, 2014, 01:37:03 PM
Here we go again.

Junior fuck you and your money.


Could you perhaps think about someone other than yourself for a moment? There are many of us here which have no morals and would gladly accept shameful donations!!!! Angry Grin
69  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: 22 year old behind Mutagenic *busted* on: April 06, 2014, 01:29:15 PM
Yeah that was funny shit. P-Arnold got banned from anabolicminds back then. I think bruce did too. P.Arnold I believe ratted out cahill to the FDa and DEA and I think he did the same to Author L.Rea.

PA got all pissed off because he got busted up in the whole Balco scandal and got in trouble selling some of these designer steroid and like DMT at the same time Cahill was getting rich selling superdrol and Author L.Rea as getting rich selling DMT(Original Formula Ergomax) wich PA got busted for so PA blew a fuse and I believe questioned authoritys why he got busted selling DMT and Author L.Rea was selling DMT with no problmes whatsoever but Auhtor L . rea got all sketched out once Don catlin Tested these products and found the DMT(Desoxy Methyl Testosterone) and then that whole Article in the washington times came out with the Testing Don catlin did on these products like superdrol,Erogomax LMG,Halodrol-50,

 (Author L. Rea only sold one decent size batch of DMT-( Ergomax LMG) and he sent the rest to some place in africa and sold it under a diffrent name. I would be pissed if I was PA too and saw guys getting rich off the same products I got busted selling and the FDA and LE was doing nothing about it and PA was just selling it to big name athletes(Author L. Rea and cahill were selling it to anybody on the internet with a credit card) Cahill was in jail when he had superdrol on the market so he was just kicking back in prison making bank. what cahill did was subcontract superdrol to kevin smith who owned Atomic nutrition and the brand was Anabolic Xtreme but still called superdrol,kevin payed Matt alot of money hundreds of thousands of dollars to license him the superdrol,Pheraplex and rebound XT.

Even though I would be heated pissed if I was P.Arnold I wouldn"t snitch them out. It would be tempting because the whole thing was really unfair. Between Patrick Arnold and Don catlin who tested the products sold on-line and gave a article to the washington post that is what screwed the whole superdrol,Original halodrol-50 and the original DMT(Ergomax-LMG). After that testing nobody really got the real deal halodrol-50,Ergomax-LMG, the superdrol kept being sold by little start up companys just in the supplement game to sell superdrol they were little get in and get out business's but none of them got sued just matt cahill got sued.

The FDA hates matt cahill back in the day as some of you might know Cahill was on the boards like anabolicminds and a few others posting under sledge or sledgehammer and in 2002 till he released his trademark product superdrol he ran a underground lab and he sold very potent DNP and one 17-18 year old girl took too much and overheated and died they actually said she was trying to kill herself(she had a horrible image problem)..

They raided matts house and his partners house and found DNP and steroids and wthey eventually charged him for some bullshit and he was sentened to 2 years in jail but while this whole process was going on he was still in the game and came up with superdrol wich was a huge hit.

That is when he started designer supplements and they did a few batches of superdrol wich sold out fst and it was 99% pure guys reported insane gains from those superdrol batches then Matt had to go to jail but he brokered this whole deal with kevin Smith before he went to jail and while he was in jail and was making hundreds of thousands of dollars. Kevin smith who was now running all the superdrol also got sued by some college baseball player. This baseball player did one cycle of superdrol and it blew his liver and he needed a liver transplant and he lost his scholoship and he sued  Anabolic Xtreme and won a undiscloed amount of money.

It is suspicious and unfair how the FDA loves to pick on guys who have been in prior trouble with the law but even after they busted down matt and kevin for selling superdrol they didn;t do shit about these little pop in and out companys who sold superdrol. how come none of them got in trouble or at least got warned by the FDA. I guess if you start a business and are selling products that are grey area put somebody who is totally clean as the CEO and stay in the backround and stay low-key. These guys like PA,Bruce Kneller,author L.Rea,Matt cahill all get discriminated against! if any of those 4 guys release a product these guys in the industry(competition) have the products tested and try to find anything they can report to the FDA.If it is some nobdoy the dompetition does not give a fuck. It is only when those four guys bring out a product.

If these compounds are not scheduled drugs then there should be no reprucussions for selling supplements that are not shceduled drugs. I do believe they should not sell them to anybody under the age of 21 years old. Should be stricter guidlines but not illegal or grey area. Even just regular AAS being scheduled drugs was a joke!

The DEA and many others did not want steroids to be illegal at all! They all thought it was stupid and a waste of time but even with the DEA and all the main groups who did not think steroids should be illegal somehow they became illegal,my guess is the drug companys paid somebody off because the drug companys so alot of profit to be made and it worked because TRT,HRT,HGH,HCG ,arimidex, get prescribed like a guy and they are all very expensive.

The only steroids you don't see get prescribed too often are the oral steroids like anavar,halotestin, and anadrol. I don;t see many guys get prescribed any oral steroids even though they are still being produced.

Jesus, I felt like I took a time machine back to and How did you remember all that?

I didn't get into juice just shortly after but caught the tail end of the bickering and did lots of post searches. What a crazy time. The "pro hormone" era was an exiting one. Everyone opened up shell companies and tried to pump as many designer steroids as they could fly in from China. I remember all my "natty" friends putting on 20lbs in a cycle using all that stuff. Grin
70  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: I am hearing to many guys claiming they can't train after doing a Injection! on: April 06, 2014, 01:24:54 PM
Scrioxxx is known for pip. Too bad because i hear their gear is well dosed.

Do you get it right from K? When he used to send me big packages they were always awesome quality. Great orals too, those little sachets. Even the tbol was good. But I'd go on forums and hear a lot about PIP (no one questioned dosing, but commented on PIP). He told me he brews with "eco oils" whatever that is. Has a bit of a soapy smell but pins like a dream.

My friend bought some Sciroxx through a re-distributor in Canada and it was brewed by one of his few resellers. There have been a couple shitty ones over the years but some are decent. Others, not so good. My buddy gave me a couple of vials when I was in between orders and it absolutely sucked. Smelled like ethyl oleate, which I can tolerate but don't want if I can pin smooth, thin viscosity gear that was properly dosed.

People used to call me a shill at times and I thought they might be shills too, but a lot of the domestic stuff can and does suck. The international stuff was always brewed with much higher quality control. I lived off Sciroxx gear for years and it was the bomb. Stayed away after the busts and bad reviews though. When UGLs go downhill it's usually best to jump ship.
71  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: superdrol on: April 06, 2014, 01:20:25 PM
Favorite oral ever. First one that I ever ran and always had fantastic results. Really pounds the liver and kidneys too. I got a bad bruise from my car door (had to open it from the outside, inside latch was broken) and it got humongous and turned every color of the rainbow after a cycle.

It can crush the GI and give you some major flank pains, so just run a low dose pre workout. It lets you fill the fuck out and you can go hypo if you diet with SD. It can really make you feel like shit and give you headaches, so keep hydrated and sleep well. You'll grow like a guy on this if you're training properly too.
72  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Senseless Anabolichalo Ramblings on: April 06, 2014, 09:34:47 AM
i just sleep late everyday, pump iron, masturbate and post on getbig

There's 24 hours in a day, make them count. I'm gonna get in wicked shape and do tons of handy work around the house. Cool
73  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: I have taken my last drink. This is my road to sobriety. on: April 06, 2014, 09:09:29 AM
Yes this.  I hope he dies on live webcam, personally

BAHAHAHA I cracked up at work over this one lol
74  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Senseless Anabolichalo Ramblings on: April 06, 2014, 09:08:41 AM
I'll be in the same boat next month... taking time off for paternity purposes. Cool

While you're off work, you should do things to better yourself, man. Read books, read self-improvement stuff, philosophy, home improvement stuff, jog in the sun and show off in front of sexy chicks in their little summer dresses, learn to cook good meals and stop being afraid to go in the kitchen (good cooking pulls in tons of pussy. I used to feed and fuck so many girls when I was younger). Don't be a shlub while you're not working.
75  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: I have taken my last drink. This is my road to sobriety. on: April 06, 2014, 08:01:37 AM
In an ideal world I would hope so. Don't know the severity of his addiction but if it is bad he won't want to exercise before he has detoxed. That is the danger zone and the time he needs to be very careful.

This ^^^

Strong will doesn't get you through alcohol withdrawal. It has nothing to do with that. shitstain needs supervised rehab. But now that others mention it, it's more than likely another desperate attempt for some deluded form of affection from us.

If she's trying to get clean, I wish him the best of luck. But I still think he's a fat piece of shit and a loser. I just don't wish harm on him because he's clearly a scum sucking bottom feeding pleb and has a lot worse problems than our opinion of him.
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